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March 27, 2022

Ukraine Open Thread 2022-36

Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict ...

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Nine bridges and four dams across the Dnieper River. That is all the Ukraine Army has to evacuate it heavy weapons from eastern Ukraine. Unless US has supplied it with large number of pontoons, Rhino Ferries, etc., all heavy equipment will be left on east bank and units with small arms will be allowed to escape to west. Russian Army should supply smallish inflatables to Ukrainian Army to enable this.
No need for cauldrons or kessels just a gentle shoves in the right direction.
Ukrainian Army disarmed but not destroyed or defeated but every one will know it survives by the grace of the Russian Army. If it happens, one of the greatest psyops and examples of maskirovka ever but American military experts won't understand it. Some might but not many.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Mar 27 2022 13:48 utc | 2

Part of the horrible tragedy that we unleashed on Iraq stemmed from the lie that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. While another part of that horrible tragedy stemmed from the fact that when our leaders began the conflict, they had no realistic exit strategy.

As the corporate media keeps pushing the narrative that the escalation of the Ukrainian conflict is the only possible path forward, I pray that everyone is paying close attention to what our leaders are stating the “exit strategy” is this time around.

So what are our leaders saying is our exit strategy in this conflict with Russia?

Anyone?

https://cluelesshonky.blogspot.com/2022/03/exit-strategy.html

Posted by: Clueless Honky | Mar 27 2022 13:51 utc | 3

Trump calling out Biden yesterday neglects to mention the biggest single strategic mistake in recent U.S. presidential history was when he pulled the U.S. out of the JCPOA. That one move is what put the U.S. in the situation in now finds itself in. How?

It made the rest of the world take notice of the duplicity of U.S. policy, trying to please too many with not enough. The world now clearly understands U.S. agreement is not worth the paper it's written on.

Russia followed suit in December by submitting written demands to the U.S. and NATO to back off in Ukraine. But did they listen? Of course not. The U.S. and NATO don't listen. In their own demented view of the world, the U.S. (and NATO) act. And when the U.S. and NATO acts the rest of the world is just supposed to sit there and take it. Not only did the U.S. and NATO not listen to Russia demands, but they also didn't even bother to respond until a full two months later. And now I understand Blinking Blinken has not spoked to Lavrov since. Mr. Tony Blinking is a huge chickenshit. He is certainly no diplomat, and that is a fact. Totally intimidated by Lavrov. That's the real reason why the U.S. can't come up with a diplomatic solution to this crisis. Because if they go that route, they know they lose. So, the U.S. and NATO will try to drag things out as long as possible hoping some random Russian citizen will take care of things for them. What a complete joke of an Administration. I do know one thing though: Trump would not have let things get this far.

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Mar 27 2022 13:59 utc | 4

is still civil war in USA still possible

Posted by: svaya | Mar 27 2022 14:07 utc | 5

Funny, the west (Japan) expressing confusion as to how they will effect the payment for gas in roubles. Yet they are so inventive when they wish to be.

They will be forced evade thier own sanctions.

Will need to use gold to buy roubles I imagine. Now that is nuclear option.

Posted by: jared | Mar 27 2022 14:10 utc | 6

Someone recommended that I check out Hitchen's article on the Ukraine situation, as his expert eye noticed in 2010. Personally I hardly think one would need to be an expert to realize that trouble was just below the horizon, but lets accept that he has/had that extraordinary ability to see the future.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10581335/PETER-HITCHENS-saw-coming-Thats-wont-join-carnival-hypocrisy.html

Classic British Empire wordsmith at his best.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Mar 27 2022 14:14 utc | 7

Reposting this on today’s thread as I posted the original only this morning on yesterday’s thread:

Let’s not be too quick to believe in Indian-Chinese rapprochement as a consequence of the US sanctions against Russia and resulting de-dollarizarion.

The heart of the issue is China’s plan to construct a mega-dam on the Yarlung Zangbo River, which flows through Tibet and eventually becomes the Brahmaputra when it enters India.

Precise technical details are lacking, but regional media reports indicate it will likely dwarf the massive Three Gorges Dam on the Yangtze River and generate three times as much electricity for distribution in China while robbing India of water from Himalayan and Tibetan snowmelt.

China has already done this to SE Asia (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia) via dams on the upper Mekong.

The end of US hegemony will create a vacuum. As evidenced by Chinese actions toward their geographic neighbors, China seeks to fill that vacuum. There are currently many thousands of Han Chinese farmers in relatively undeveloped Siberia. China will continue to populate Siberia via guest visas until they create an incident that requires them to “defend” their citizens living there.

While Russia has answered the existential threat posed by US-led NATO expansion, they have “shaken hands with the devil” that may devour them over coming decades as China continues its insatiable demand for physical resources. In her attempt to be free of US dominance, Mother Russia has put herself back into vassalage to the Horde.

Posted by: Ciaran | Mar 27 2022 14:17 utc | 8

@2 Ghost Ship

"Russian Army should supply smallish inflatables to Ukrainian Army to enable this.. .
Ukrainian Army disarmed but not destroyed "

Until they get West of Dnepier, then they will be re-armed with the best Nato MANPADs and other weapons.

Posted by: schmoe | Mar 27 2022 14:18 utc | 9

is still civil war in USA still possible

Posted by: svaya | Mar 27 2022 14:07 utc | 5


OT, but . . . IMHO it never was.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 27 2022 14:26 utc | 10

Where is Yulia Tymoshenko ?

Posted by: Brother Ma | Mar 27 2022 14:28 utc | 11

Posted by: Ciaran | Mar 27 2022 14:17 utc | 8

Are you a troll or are you one of those white supremacist China Hater? Horde? You will next day white women raping Fu Manchus.
Back in 2014 western sanctions on Russia would have succeeded in killing off Russia absolutely except for China's immediate offer to buy up huge amount of Russian oil and gas, with a % up front for the infrastructure building.
This is why US hates China so much.

Regarding the Mekong. You love your CIA misinformation.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202103/1216933.shtml

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1209941.shtml


Chinese experts find apparent errors in biased data on Chinese dams on Mekong River by US-funded project - Global Times https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1253764.shtml

Posted by: Surferket | Mar 27 2022 14:28 utc | 12

https://sputniknews.com/20220326/gop-wants-to-subpoena-hunter-biden-over-leaked-emails-if-they-regain-majority-in-congress-1094227404.html

There is hope in about a year. First, Democrats are far more eager to sacrifice the interests of ordinary citizens to fight Russia than the Republicans (latest polls).

There has been a traditional faction of the Republican party that leans into isolationism. If Russia can produce more hard evidence about Biden corruption on Ukraine, his Administration could crash into scandal and impeachment. Add on inflation and recession and things could shift in less than 12 months as regards the fanatical sanctions hysteria about Ukraine.

Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 27 2022 14:29 utc | 13

@thecelticwithinme #4
Disagree completely.
Trump's US had great relations with Saudi Arabia and the UAE because those countries didn't like JCPOA for obvious reasons.

Nor is your attempt to link Russia's security treaty proposals to Trump, and thence to the present "military police" operation the least bit convincing.
Among other things, you are ignoring the Obama era "cookie" Nuland's actions in Ukraine, as well as the decades of US policy prior to that.

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 27 2022 14:30 utc | 14

Ukraine continues to fight the war on twitter (and web3 now) as opposed to Russia fighting the war in real life

While Russia Uses Tanks To Destroy Ukraine, Ukraine Relies On Revolutionary Blockchain Tech - dailymail

Ukraine's Vice PM launches collection of 54 NFTs to support country's 'army and ivilians'

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 27 2022 14:32 utc | 15

Precise technical details are lacking, but regional media reports indicate it will likely dwarf the massive Three Gorges Dam on the Yangtze River and generate three times as much electricity for distribution in China while robbing India of water from Himalayan and Tibetan snowmelt.

Posted by: Ciaran | Mar 27 2022 14:17 utc | 8

Which regional media? You claim that details are scarce but you're already jumping to conclusions.


Posted by: bonks | Mar 27 2022 14:33 utc | 16

Brutal murders of Russian POWs

https://southfront . org/shocking-evidence-of-ukrainian-regimes-essence-video-21/

Posted by: bonks | Mar 27 2022 14:39 utc | 17

TD bank is waiving fees for money transfers to Ukraine.

Big Canadian and US bank Toronto Dominion wants to "help".

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Mar 27 2022 14:43 utc | 18

People really interested in what's happening in Ukraine should get on Telegram. There are several very good sites that have frequent updates with videos and photos. They will also expose the Nazi fakes.

Here's a good one that's in English language. Others are in Russian but Telegram has a translate function.

https://t.me/intelslava

Posted by: Surferket | Mar 27 2022 14:44 utc | 19

Posted by: bonks | Mar 27 2022 14:39 utc | 17

Gonzalo Lira's on Telegram and he has videos of the Nazis shooting captured Russian soldiers.

https://t.me/realCRP

Posted by: Surferket | Mar 27 2022 14:48 utc | 20

Scmhmoe@9... I read somewhere that the best NATO ManPads come with special wings to protect undergarments from Mangina leakage.
Sounds plausible I suppose.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 27 2022 14:49 utc | 21

The currently circulating POW torture video may be an effort by Ukraine to make their own troops afraid of surrendering for fear of Russian reprisals. Not that Ukrainian soldiers are incapable of this anyway (the Southfront article linked by Bonks at [17] has examples of other crimes) but several high level officers, including a colonel, are said to be in the new video. There have been widespread allegations of Ukrainian soldiers firing on their own surrendering comrades and given the tightening noose in the Donbass and apparent refusal of requests to allow a withdrawal, the cornered commanders may become increasingly desperate to maintain control. Many hours after the video went viral the Western media still has not touched the story. Strange how something so shocking, dramatic, and blatantly illegal is not considered newsworthy to a media normally falling over itself for anything that matches even one of those criteria.

Posted by: Brannagyn | Mar 27 2022 14:55 utc | 22

Funny, the west (Japan) expressing confusion as to how they will effect the payment for gas in roubles. Yet they are so inventive when they wish to be.

They will be forced evade thier own sanctions.

Will need to use gold to buy roubles I imagine. Now that is nuclear option.

Posted by: jared | Mar 27 2022 14:10 utc | 6
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Yes. QE in USD and yen becomes more problematic when these currencies aren’t as useful in foreign exchange.

But finally a good way to unwind QE. Useless securities anyone? And are any of them being used as collateral? Shadow banking including money markets?

Posted by: financial matters | Mar 27 2022 15:12 utc | 23

To clarify, I should have said Trump's ego would not have let things get this far. I you recall, in December Pres. Putin made two if not three separate speeches in reference to Russian written security demands with nary a word in response from the Biden Administration. And things stayed that way until February when the U.S. finally did reply in writing. Of course, by that time Russia pretty much could see the writing on the wall. And yet still Lavrov held out for diplomacy. Trump being the narcissist that he is, would have seen opportunity in Russia's security demands. Instead, we got silence. The Blinking one is in way over his head.

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Mar 27 2022 15:22 utc | 24


@3 "So what are our leaders saying is our exit strategy in this conflict with Russia?"

Blinken has a sort of carrot and stick suggestion. Echoed by Liz Truss yesterday. They will have to try a lot harder I think.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/16/blinken-withdrawal-necessary-russian-sanctions-00017671

Posted by: dh | Mar 27 2022 15:26 utc | 25

@ Eighthman 113

O sputniknews is still up, ever since the ban on Russian media in the EU ,I was using a VPN server in Switzerland and I could access RT, but I never got to access sputniknews, I assumed it was under DDOS attack, but I just switched to a VPN server in Brazil and now sputnik is up for me.

Looks like for some strange reason access to sputnik is blocked in Switzerland while Access to RT is not blocked.

Posted by: jimmy | Mar 27 2022 15:36 utc | 26

The pettiness of some EU businesses knows no bounds.

"Zurich Insurance Group, Switzerland’s largest insurer, has temporarily replaced its original logo on social media, which featured a big white Z against a blue circle. The company has explained that the letter has come to represent support for the Kremlin’s military campaign against Ukraine, hence the Swiss insurer’s anxiety to avoid any misunderstanding.

The new version of the insurance company’s logo is similar to the original one in design, except, instead of the letter Z, it sports the word Zurich in full."

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 27 2022 15:53 utc | 27

Now with Sean Penn threatening to "publicly smelt" his personal cache of golden Oscars if the Clown Prince of Armageddon doesn't get to to appear tonight on the Oscars, I have to say I'm looking forward to either alternative. I'd love to see this public smelting -- it could be absolutely classic hyperirony, but Zelensky in his t-shirt could really help to conclusively drive home the point: The Academy of Motion Pictures is an abject slave of Empire. It should be perfectly clear by now.

The alliance between the military and Hollywood is the main reason that we have lots of big blockbuster movies on certain topics and few if any on others. Studios have written scripts and hired top actors for movies on things like Iran-Contra that have never seen the light of day because of a Pentagon rejection.
The Pentagon and CIA Have Shaped Thousands of Hollywood Movies Into Super Effective Propaganda

In my own humble opinion, Swanson's piece just barely skims the surface of motion picture culpability in western cultural rot. This dark energy goes all the way back to DW Griffiths's Birth of a Nation (also the birth of the "industry").

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 27 2022 15:53 utc | 28

The US groaning and complaining because India won't do as the US tells it, good for India I say.


"India’s refusal to cast aside its longstanding friendship with Russia over the war in Ukraine is “unsatisfactory,” US diplomat Mira Rapp-Hooper told an online conference hosted by the School of Advanced International Studies, while admitting it was also “unsurprising.”

"India snubs US call to isolate Moscow

"Rapp-Hooper, director for the Indo-Pacific region on the White House’s National Security Council, was specifically referring to India’s recent votes at the United Nations, where it has declined to come out against Russian actions in Ukraine and remained silent in the Security Council votes on the matter."

“I think we would certainly all acknowledge and agree that when it comes to votes at the UN, India’s position on the current crisis has been unsatisfactory, to say the least."

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 27 2022 15:58 utc | 29

This tell me that the Ukrainian forces are close to spent, and that the UK at least realises the consequences of that. Or the UK might be trying to stall for time for whatever reason, one could be for the Nazi's to regroup and be replenished with supplies and weapons.


"The UK could lift its “crippling” sanctions should Russia withdraw from Ukraine and commit to abstaining from “further aggression,” Britain’s foreign secretary, Liz Truss, has revealed.

In an interview with the Sunday Telegraph, Truss said they “should only come off with a full ceasefire and withdrawal, but also commitments that there will be no further aggression.” She described the sanctions as the “hard lever” that should be used when dealing with Russia – which she claimed had not complied with the “multiple agreements” it had signed up to."


Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 27 2022 16:01 utc | 30

Aleph_Null (28).

It was the CIA that funded the making of Orwell's Animal Farm after his death, the animated film was made in an attack against Communism.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 27 2022 16:05 utc | 31

La mossa di Putin nel far pagare il gas in rubli ha spiazzato non pochi attori politici occidentali,
Comunque, da ignorante, rimango perplesso sul fatto che la Russia continui a rifornire, a pieno ritmo, nonostante tutto il veleno riversato contro i russi, il gas agli europei.

Posted by: Alessandro Cagliostr | Mar 27 2022 16:08 utc | 32

Okay. Here is my new and view about it all. Enjoy. https://yaxls.wordpress.com/2022/03/27/standing-up-for-mother-russia/

Posted by: Tim Rourke | Mar 27 2022 16:08 utc | 33

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 27 2022 15:53 utc | 27

Don Diego de la Vega should now write his whole nickname on Sgt Garcia’s bottom to spare us any misunderstanding.

How pathetic is the western world.

Posted by: HerrHesser | Mar 27 2022 16:10 utc | 34

The head of the Peoples Republic of Lugansk, wants to hold a plebiscite on joining Russia, no word on Dontesk following a similar route, I suppose after eight years of the Nazi's shelling civilians, he feels it would be a safer bet to join Russia, and who could blame him for thinking that.

"The Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR), one of the two breakaway Donbass territories recognized by Moscow as independent states in late February, is planning to hold a plebiscite on joining Russia “in the near future,” its leader has revealed.

There has been no indication that the Kremlin would accept such a demand. Last month, President Valdimir Putin recognised the independence of the LPR, but almost all of the word considers it to still be part of Ukraine.

Speaking to journalists on Sunday, Leonid Pasechnik said that he thought “in the near future a referendum will be held in the republic, where people will exercise their absolutely constitutional right, and give their opinion with respect to joining Russia.” The official added that he was “somehow sure that’s precisely the way it will be.”"

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 27 2022 16:11 utc | 35

HerrHesser (34)

Ha. Ha, nice one.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 27 2022 16:13 utc | 36

New video of Patrick Lancaster interviewing evacuees from Mariupol.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Mar 27 2022 16:13 utc | 37

During the week

Joe Bementia, the tenant in the USA WH;

He spoke and every utterance required US 2nd VP Jen Psaki to explain.

JB: “He [Putin] is a War Criminal”

JP: "He [Joe] spoke from the heart"

In Poland,

JB: “My God, this man [Putin] has to be removed from power"

JP: "He [Joe] did not mean regime change"

Today: 10:05 EDT
Macron Warns Not to 'Escalate Either in Words or Actions' After Biden's Verbal Assault on Putin

https://sputniknews.com/20220327/macron-warns-not-to-escalate-either-in-words-or-actions-after-bidens-verbal-assault-on-putin--1094240637.html

Last week, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov called Joe Biden's recent "war criminal" remarks concerning Russian President Vladimir Putin as inadmissible, adding that the leader of a country that bombed other states and killed thousands of people has no right to say such things.

French President Emmanuel Macron has said that he would refrain from uttering such stern language such as was recently used by POTUS regarding Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin.

"I would not use those words", Macron told the broadcaster France 3 on Sunday, referring to US President Joe Biden branding Putin a "butcher" on Saturday hours before claiming that the Russian president "cannot remain in power".

Referring to Moscow's ongoing special military operation in Ukraine, the French president also said that he sees his task as "achieving first a ceasefire and then the total withdrawal of [Russian] troops [from Ukraine] by diplomatic means".

"If we want to do that, we can't escalate either in words or actions", Macron cautioned, adding that he will again get in touch with Putin in the immediate future.[.]

Macron should reach out to UK Bojo and Ben Wallace, Secretary of Defence.
Wallace was pranked this week and in a call with who he thought was "Zelensky" laid bare the war plans.

Full Video of Wallace and pranksters.
https://rumble.com/vyc3hz-prank-call-with-uk-defense-secretary-on-ukraine.-see-description.html

• 2 Smuggling routes for weapons delivery
• Plan for Provocation in the Black Sea – HMS Defender
• UK Cabinet is committed to war with Russia
• Ukraine should not cede Crimea

We are a long way from Mr. Shoigu’s operation ending within a year. Sanctions on Russia will not be lifted and the global economy will be decimated. Go East.

As Prof. Michael Hudson offered in yesterday's radio interview with Global Research Canada; this is not about Ukraine but of the US Hegemony not losing control of the EU (Germany). LNG, the accelerating slide of the US dollar and giving up the free ride the Americans enjoy.

Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 27 2022 16:14 utc | 38

Where is Yulia Tymoshenko ?

@Posted by: Brother Ma | Mar 27 2022 14:28 utc | 11

She fled with her robbed billions from the Ukraine people to ubnknown destination, like every Ukrainian oligarch.

Curiously, Biden has nothing to say about them, not an insult or a bad word...In fact, what he tried to do in the Ukraine was clearly, bhy the data avaialble, become one of them...

Posted by: Givi | Mar 27 2022 16:23 utc | 39

The mentality of the EU and Nato, Russia's Central Bank is under their sanctions, yet to buy Russian gas they need Rubles which they need to buy from Russia's Central Bank. A smart move by Putin I think possibly forcing them to think twice about sanctions on the bank.


"The switch to rubles for gas payments, announced earlier this week by Russian President Vladimir Putin, would force the European Union to circumvent its own anti-Russia sanctions if it wants to keep the gas flowing in, Germany’s Der Spiegel reported, citing economy experts.

According to Düsseldorf economist Jens Südekum, in order to pay for gas deliveries, Europe would have to buy rubles from the Central Bank of Russia, which earlier this month was placed on an EU sanctions list. The measure prohibits any financial transactions between the Russian financial regulator and EU."

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 27 2022 16:24 utc | 40

Guess what, yesterday the dutch prime minister said that that Russian sanctions have little impact on the dutch economy and that everything is fine and we could even boycott the import of Russian oil and it would have little effect on the Dutch economy.

Guess what happened today, the Dutch CPB which is an economic government advisory agency, warned that the disruption of supply chains world wide as a result of anti russian sanctions will have a large negative impact on the dutch economy in the next year or two, because the largest part of the dutch economy is trade and this sector will slowly grind to a halt as a result of these supply chain interruptions and the dutch economy will be hit hardest of all the economies in the EU as a result of anti Russian sanctions.

Guess they all missed the fact that in the last 30 years or so under WTO rules the production of almost all end products has been diversified to many factories all over the world that produce parts ,that all depend on each other and on just in time delivery in order to produce about any end product.

Who would have thought that sanctioning the largest country in the world that produces the largest amounts of raw materials would disrupt this international manufacturing, trade and transport system ? lol

Posted by: Jimmy | Mar 27 2022 16:26 utc | 41

Peter Pry has a decent video out about Russia's nuclear forces array vs. the United States.
Peter Pry

While he does sound a bit like a salesman of the nuclear arms industry his insight is interesting. "The Russians are functionally paranoid and the West is functionally optimistic." Russia has more than an edge on nuclear arms and delivery systems and has the capacity to use them due to their historical treatment by outside powers.

Martin Armstrong came out with an article that basically says if you are in the US move to the southern hemisphere.
Zelensky – Who is Pulling his Strings?

None of this looks good going forward.

Posted by: circumspect | Mar 27 2022 16:27 utc | 42

Aleph_Null | Mar 27 2022 15:53 utc | 28

Clown Prince of Armageddon...................... great title for zelensky....... that is all he is good for as hollywood hack for eroding empire..

Posted by: james | Mar 27 2022 16:31 utc | 43

@ circumspect | Mar 27 2022 16:27 utc | 42

it is very obvious who the puppet master is... however, kids let their imagination carry them in a puppet show.. no concern for who is pulling the strings..

Posted by: james | Mar 27 2022 16:34 utc | 44

New interview of Scott Ritter on Grayzone.
https://youtu.be/OSkpIq3T-Zc

I thought his performance was pretty poor -
He seemed to deflect most of thier questions with unrelated stories of his personal adventures. Maybe he just has no further incite to offer. He strikes me as typical gov operative - self agrandizing and pathologically dishonest.

Much prefer Mercouris reports as reasonably objective - leaning Russian.

Posted by: jared | Mar 27 2022 16:34 utc | 45

@Aleph_Null #28
Indeed.
I have never seen why an actor, or singer or some other entertainer's world views mean jack shit.

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 27 2022 16:42 utc | 46

The video of Ukrainian soldiers torturing and shooting Russian prisoners of war is sickening and chilling. It shows the moral bankruptcy of the Ukrainian regime, a country reduced by the influence of ultra-nationalist haters to the worst of the worst. How can anyone question the importance of de-Nazifying the country? That it was attempted by invasion is not as much an indictment of Russia for doing so but an indictment of the US-led West which encouraged and supported the Nazi takeover because a) the US cares about no one but its own leaders and b) the US is always happy to encourage chaos and misery if they believe the effects will spill over to its "enemies".

Posted by: worldblee | Mar 27 2022 16:43 utc | 47

@ Posted by: financial matters | Mar 27 2022 15:12 utc | 23

Ha! "Unwind QE" - that's a good one!
They will be spewing treasuries at hypersonic speed - will make Mr Kinzal look like is walking with cane.

Posted by: jared | Mar 27 2022 16:43 utc | 48

This Peter Pry is definitely delusional,"free societies" my ass.

Posted by: Lolgege | Mar 27 2022 16:44 utc | 49

@ jared 45

O you think Scott Ritters performance was poor ? well that's probably due the the fact that he is not performing he is just having a free chat with the guys from grayzone answering their questions and telling war time stories, getting off topic, he really does not have an agenda, he is acting like any normal guy in a bar just talking freely with 2 other guys in the bar on the subject at hand.

However do remember that this guy does have a pretty realists view of the situation, he did predict that the Russian army would go into Ukraine, when all the other western empire critics, including myself, did not think this was going to happen, his reasoning was that the west had forced the Russian hand and that because of the Russian strategic interest they just had to do it.

Posted by: Jimmy | Mar 27 2022 16:50 utc | 50

Looking at 2nd order effects, the "unfriendly" list includes South Korea and Taiwan and Singapore but not Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand. That is going to be throwing a bit of a monkey wrench into attempts to diversify supply chains, or at least provide a lucrative opportunity for transshipping from HK and other places.

I have not heard this mentioned elsewhere, but it also includes Ukraine, so anything that goes into the pipe at the Russian border is going to have to be paid for in RUB.

Posted by: Billb | Mar 27 2022 16:57 utc | 51

@ Posted by: worldblee | Mar 27 2022 16:43 utc | 47

I have heard about the torturing of Russian POWs. That is horrible, obviously worthy of war crime investigation.

However, I would like to add that on the Russian side I (intel slav) I am seeing posts which are also humiliating of POWs. They may even be nazis. But regardless they need to knock that shit off. Any responsible person can see why.

I love the posts of liberated, relieved civilians. More of that please. But also dont have them ratting on thier nazis jailers - save it for another time please.

Irresponsible management of those posts can have negative impact on own side.

Posted by: jared | Mar 27 2022 16:59 utc | 52

Sanctions fallout.

Washington Is Delirious With War Fever – For No Reason of Homeland Security

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/03/david-stockman/washington-is-delirious-with-war-fever-for-no-reason-of-homeland-security/

By David Stockman
Former Congressman David A. Stockman was Reagan's OMB director, 
His latest books are "The Great Deformation: The Corruption of Capitalism in America." He was an original partner in the Blackstone Group,

[.]

Washington’s Massive Miscalculation:

I am shocked at the miscalculation in thinking economic sanctions on Russia would bring them to their knees. The opposite is true. Russia is self-sufficient and is not dependent on imports. Its exports are critical to the economic well-being of the West. If they withhold wheat, potash, gas, oil, palladium, finished nickel and other key minerals from the West, the European and US economies will be savaged. And this attempt to coerce Russia with sanctions has now made it very likely that the US dollar’s role as the international reserve currency will show up in the dustbin of history.

= = = = =

Palladium. Finished nickel, Titanium, among the long list of critical exports for the West.

Suggestion: buy an extra car and tractor battery. We may have to park the vehicles.

Nickel Short Squeeze. Market broken. March 8, 2022,

Nickel hit $100,000 and the LME cancelled ALL 5,000 trades

Nickel short seller could take $8 billion hit after price soars past $100,000 /tonne.

[.]"The 145-year-old exchange responded by halting trade, and in a later update announced the cancellation of all trades and deferring delivery of all physically settled contracts. The contract was suspended at $80,000 per tonne."[.]

https://www.mining.com/lme-cancels-nickel-trading-after-price-soars-past-100000-a-tonne/

and

Banks to Keep Talking on Nickel Trading Losses, Tsingshan Says
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nickel-price-surge-puts-chinese-manufacturers-in-a-bind-11647261436
(Paywall)

Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 27 2022 17:11 utc | 53

The reason it never makes sense is that there is a long and methodical agenda that underlies the machinations of governments, economies and “world events.” You can deny it and refer to it using psycho-babble names, but it’s amazing how the pieces fall into place when you consider it. Have you seen the extremely well done documentary about the forces that brought us WWI, here: https://www.corbettreport.com/mp4/wwi.mp4

Posted by: cobo | Mar 27 2022 17:12 utc | 54

@ Posted by: Jimmy | Mar 27 2022 16:50 utc | 50

I suspect you dont know Scott, nor whether he has an agenda.
Remember, you are watching a person on youtube just like me.

Regarding the predictions, that raises a point -
Rationally and based on Putins past of great restraint, one would predict that he would not attack. But the US kept ramping the b/s til he had no alternative - that was the part that was hard to predict or even accept, seemed irrational for those who believe in diplomacy.

As I recall, B had predicted that he would attack I think he put it at late Jan or early February. Thenlater he predicted with usual confidence that he would not attack and that the idea was absurd. Did I dream that? I am a little curious why he made that change, though it worked out as beneficial.

Scott has an advantage, he truly understands how depraved and incompitent (not sure which to place first) is the triad of state/intel/military.

My other disappointment with that interview with two of best actual reports "in the room" - they are overlooking the aspect that beyond looking other way, it is becoming increasingly evident that the west has facist problem of its own (Greenwald gets it).

Posted by: jared | Mar 27 2022 17:22 utc | 55

That "Unfriendly Ruble" mecanism seems to move some lines, but a (boeotian) question remains.

Wich currency will those unfriendly countries spend for buying Rubles? The ones Russia is barred to use? Not really sure of that…

This leads me to think the CBR could impose gold for the delivery of its suddenly very appreciated money.

What a decline accelerator would that be for EU!

The only thing that keeps me from laughing at this possible outcome is the fact that I (and my relatives) live in this zone…

Posted by: HerrHesser | Mar 27 2022 17:22 utc | 56

MH-17: allegedly in the day of tragedy a secret visit of USA hi-rank brass was held to the nearbyr airfield.

Part 1: https://ukr-leaks.org/en/Replica/replica-usa-dnepropetrovsk-boing
PArt 2: https://telegra.ph/CHTO-DELALI-AMERIKANCY-V-DEN-SBITIYA-BOINGA-V-DNEPROPETROVSKE-TAJNYJ-VIZIT-VYSOKOPOSTAVLENNYH-OFICEROV-03-26

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Ukrainian bio-laps, Newcastle disease, project P-444

https://t.me/ukr_leaks/2117
https://t.me/ukr_leaks/2112

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A Britton, who survived in Mariupol:

video:
https://t.me/readovkanews/29284
https://vk.com/readovkanews?z=video-163061027_456261284%2Fpl_-163061027_-2

some text about him: https://rdvk.net/92011

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 27 2022 17:25 utc | 57

bio-labs in Ukraine, P-444 project, NewCastle disease
t .me/ukr_leaks/2117
t.me/ukr_leaks/2112?single

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Odessa groceries sell humanitarian aid form Poland: t .me/slavyansk_z/1426

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A Britton survived in Mariupol

readovka .news/news/92011
video with his speech: vk .com/readovkanews?z=video-163061027_456261284%2Fpl_-163061027_-2

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another tale by Mariupol dweller: t .me/ukr_leaks_eng/51

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MH-17 - was there a secret visit of USA top brass to a nearby airfield in the day of the tragedy?

Part 1: ukr-leaks .org/en/Replica/replica-usa-dnepropetrovsk-boing
Part 2: telegra .ph/CHTO-DELALI-AMERIKANCY-V-DEN-SBITIYA-BOINGA-V-DNEPROPETROVSKE-TAJNYJ-VIZIT-VYSOKOPOSTAVLENNYH-OFICEROV-03-26

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 27 2022 17:36 utc | 58

Brutal murders of Russian POWs

Posted by: bonks | Mar 27 2022 14:39 utc | 17

Two videos: https://t.me/denazi_UA/4463

The second one is the same, but the first one is different.

One more copy of the same video: https://vk.com/wall-163061027_1964766

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 27 2022 17:53 utc | 59

Brutal murders of Russian POWs

Posted by: bonks | Mar 27 2022 14:39 utc | 17

Two videos: https://t.me/denazi_UA/4463

The second one is the same, but the first one is different.

One more copy of the same video: vk .com/wall-163061027_1964766

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 27 2022 17:53 utc | 60

Brutal murders of Russian POWs

Posted by: bonks | Mar 27 2022 14:39 utc | 17

Two videos: t .me/denazi_UA/4463

The second one is the same, but the first one is different.

One more copy of the same video: https://vk.com/wall-163061027_1964766

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 27 2022 17:53 utc | 61

Brutal murders of Russian POWs

Posted by: bonks | Mar 27 2022 14:39 utc | 17

Two videos: t .me/denazi_UA/4463

The second one is the same, but the first one is different.

One more copy of the same video: vk .com/wall-163061027_1964766

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 27 2022 17:54 utc | 62

sorry, B and barflies, that is just weird. therewas not a dsingle comment published, then few minutes later there suddenly were them all....

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 27 2022 17:54 utc | 63

Maybe the ejection of Banderite Administrations from the various liberated cities could be celebrated by projecting giant beams against the night skies with “Z” on them?

Posted by: Cortes | Mar 27 2022 18:00 utc | 64

As the world argues back and forth, the $ rolls in for the usual suspects.

Humanity has descended yet again to the basic battle; the haves vs. the have nots...

Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 27 2022 18:02 utc | 65

https://t.me/denazi_UA/4459

Ukrainian heroes despise death while unloading new supply of anti-tank mines

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 27 2022 18:05 utc | 66

@ 4 said; "Russia followed suit in December by submitting written demands to the U.S. and NATO to back off in Ukraine. But did they listen? Of course not."

The $ people, who decide everything in our world today, wanted this war to happen..

Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 27 2022 18:09 utc | 67

Lugansk People's Republic May Hold Referendum on Joining Russia Soon
https://sputniknews.com/20220327/lpr-head-says-republic-may-hold-referendum-on-joining-russia-soon-1094232866.html
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Now for the insults: Lost the war so nothing else to lose.

Zelenskyy: West needs more courage in helping Ukraine fight

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-zelenskyy-business-europe-moscow-e65957837aed8286cc866b1eb943ab97

AP Video of Oil Facility in Lviv on fire.

LVIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy accused the West of cowardice as his country fights to stave off Russia’s invading troops, making an exasperated plea for fighter jets and tanks to sustain a defense as the war ground into a battle of attrition.

Speaking after U.S. President Joe Biden said in a lacerating speech that Russian President Vladimir Putin could not stay in power — words the White House immediately sought to downplay — Zelenskyy lashed out Sunday at the West’s “ping-pong about who and how should hand over jets” and other weapons while Russian missile attacks kill and trap civilians.

“I’ve talked to the defenders of Mariupol today. I’m in constant contact with them. Their determination, heroism and firmness are astonishing,” Zelenskyy said in a video address, referring to the besieged southern city that has suffered some of the war’s greatest deprivations and horrors. “If only those who have been thinking for 31 days on how to hand over dozens of jets and tanks had 1% of their courage.”

Ukraine’s ambassador to the U. S., Oksana Markarova, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that her country had heard Biden “loud and clear.”

“Now, it’s all up to all of us to stop Putin while it’s still local in Ukraine because this war is not only about Ukraine,” she said, but “an attack on democracy.”

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Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 27 2022 18:09 utc | 68

@Clueless Honky, #3:

Part of the horrible tragedy that we unleashed on Iraq stemmed from the lie that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. While another part of that horrible tragedy stemmed from the fact that when our leaders began the conflict, they had no realistic exit strategy.

Agreed! But to me the biggest tragedy of the Iraq War was that, in the aftermath and revelation of facts, the West as a whole still voted in the same sons of bitches into their offices, as they are still doing now. Even after seeing the carnages at Mosul, Fallujah, Tripoli, Kabul, Aleppo, et al. The tragedy is the death of morality and decency in the whole western political domain.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 27 2022 18:10 utc | 69

@ 4 also said;" I do know one thing though: Trump would not have let things get this far."

Seriously? IMO, DJT would do what all our other POTU$'es would have done; What they're told to do by our monied elites..

Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 27 2022 18:17 utc | 70

“A US President who, during an atrocious war, does not mean what he says on matters of War&Peace, and must be corrected by his hyperventilating staff, is a clear and present danger to all.”
-- Yanis Varoufakis

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 27 2022 18:18 utc | 71

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 27 2022 17:53 utc | 58

More evidence that the mental state of modern Galicians has not changed from 1942.

Attacks on Poles during the massacres in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia were marked with extreme sadism and brutality. Rape, torture and mutilation were commonplace. Poles were burned alive, flayed, impaled, crucified, disembowelled, dismembered and beheaded. Women were gang raped and had their breasts sliced off, children were hacked to pieces with axes, babies were impaled on bayonets and pitchforks or bashed against trees.

Perhaps they should emigrate to Indonesia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Act_of_Killing
Can be watched on YT.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Mar 27 2022 18:27 utc | 72

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 27 2022 18:10 utc | 68

TV is God.
Unless TV God announces that something is bad, there is no way that the mindless viewer will come to that conclusion.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Mar 27 2022 18:32 utc | 73

I haven't seen this linked yet--Greenwald on various Biden (and US) deficiencies.
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/bidens-reckless-words-underscore?s=r

Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 27 2022 18:59 utc | 74

Why so slow (Vzglyad, Irina Alksnis, March 24, 2022 — in Russian, footnotes mine)

One of the favorite topics for discussion of the Russian special operation in the Ukraine today is: why is it so slow?! There have been lots of debates on this issue and, no doubt, there will be more in the future.

Some say that Russia “got bogged down” and arranged for itself a “second Afghanistan”. Others say that, given the size of the Ukraine, the training of the Ukrainian army and its training in recent years by NATO forces, the careful attitude of the Russian command towards the lives of our troops, and a bunch of other factors, events are developing at a completely normal pace.

However, both domestic military experts and foreign experts admit that Russia is using very limited resources in the Ukraine, as if it is deliberately acting not even at half, but at a quarter of its possible strength—and this, of course, affects the speed of the advance of troops and the timing of achieving the goals set for the operation. Why this is the case is a separate topic for discussion and causes considerable and increasingly obvious bewilderment among foreign military pros. In Russia, too, various versions are put forward about this.

It is unlikely that there is a single reason for the chosen strategy. Surely it is based on a whole conglomeration of motives and considerations, a significant—if not the biggest—part of which is political, not military in nature. Moreover, the strategy of a military campaign is always directly related to and determined by its goals. For Russia, there are two main goals in the special operation—demilitarization and de-Nazification.

The Russian army is actively engaged in the demilitarization of Ukraine right now, but with de-Nazification everything is much more complicated, since this is more a political than a military task. And if so, then it is worth considering in more detail why the Russian leadership chose the “slow” pace of ongoing hostilities to achieve this goal.

So, the population of the Ukraine, according to official data, as of January 1, 2022, exceeds 40 million people. The statistics, of course, in this case are lying a lot, but in any case we are talking about tens of millions of people. Huge number.

And the unconditionally dominant majority of these people have been under the influence of anti-Russian, Russophobic and openly Nazi propaganda for many years. This process began long before 2014, but in the last eight years it has assumed simply phantasmagoric forms and an outrageous level of aggressiveness. Which had a corresponding effect on the mindset and beliefs of the people.

Thus, it is necessary to subject 20–25 (if not 30) millions of inhabitants of the Ukraine to de-Nazification. Moreover, a significant part of people over the years have actively expressed their beliefs in one way or another: some participated in war crimes and crimes against humanity, others wrote posts on social media falling under the “extremist” articles of the Criminal Code, others ate “fried Colorados” in restaurants,¹ yet others vomited misanthropy on their Russian relatives over the phone.

At the same time, let me remind you that there is no death penalty in Russia or the Ukraine, and the penitentiary systems of both countries are simply physically incapable of handling the load, if every single person is punished. And besides, a considerable part of Ukrainians really fell victim to propaganda that is so inhuman to the psyche in terms of the methods of brainwashing that they should be treated rather than punished—if they did not stain themselves with blood. The ongoing operation at least partially solves the problem. Many fanatical Nazis are now being ground up in Mariupol, the Donetsk cauldron and in other areas of hostilities.

In addition, a very important role in the de-Nazification of the Ukraine is played by the exodus of millions of refugees from the country—among them, a huge part are couch Nazis, who, in terms of the degree of harmfulness to the mentality of Ukrainian society, are no less dangerous than those who hold weapons in their hands. If they stayed in the Ukraine, Russia would have to deal with them one way or another, and now they are a headache for Europe. And by the way, it is the “unhurried” course of the special operation here that rather works into the hands of Moscow—the more couch Nazis they manage to dump, the fewer problems will have to be solved.

But all the same, tens of millions of people remain in the Ukraine who are brainwashed to the limit, with animalistic hatred for Russia—and they will have to be worked with. And this is where an interesting phenomenon arises, since the current development of events plays in favor of Russia, as it contributes to the gradual sobering of the Ukrainian population. Here, as an example, it is worth citing the events in Crimea in 2014.

The Crimean operation, which our country is deservedly proud of for its stunning beauty, efficiency and bloodlessness, is perceived in the Ukraine in a completely different way. Over the course of eight years, they formed an idea of ​​three main reasons for the loss of the peninsula: 1) Russia’s treacherous stab in the back at a time of virtual anarchy in Kiev; 2) betrayal of officials who were supposed to order the Ukrainian Army to resist the aggressor; 3) the real unpreparedness (both moral and combat) of the Ukrainian military at that moment to shoot Russian colleagues. All this is polished with a deeply Nazi notion that the Russians’ desire to avoid unnecessary blood and destruction is a manifestation of their weakness and unwillingness to fight for real.

And here we arrive at a paradox: if for some reason Russia had a blitzkrieg during the ongoing special operation in the Ukraine (for example, as a result of a military coup in Kiev), this would only strengthen Ukrainian Nazism. Instead, what is happening is exactly what the Ukrainians have been preparing for over the past eight years. The society is consolidated, unanimously believes in the victory of the Ukraine and is preparing for street battles as part of defense. The army demonstrates good combat training, high morale and is ready to stand to the end. The state leadership and the generals intend to fight to the last Ukrainian. And the enemy, it seems, is bogged down in heavy battles.

Yet the results are still not encouraging. Over the years, two scenarios of war with Russia and moral readiness for them have developed in the Ukrainian society: the first scenario is the military triumph of the Ukraine with a recapture² of Kuban and payment of reparations by Moscow, the second scenario is Russia’s success in a Crimean-style blitzkrieg due to betrayal within the leadership of the Ukraine (followed by a massive Western-backed guerrilla war and ultimately, again, a Ukrainian victory).

The most likely option—a full-fledged war with heavy fighting, many casualties, storming of cities, destruction of infrastructure, deprivation of the civilian population and the victory of Russia—was simply absent in the minds of Ukrainians. Yet that is precisely what is being implemented now. Despite fierce resistance in many places, the Russian army is moving forward, which means that it leaves the most combat-ready and motivated units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed in its wake. The horror of Mariupol clearly shows what a nightmare the storming of the city turns into for its residents—and, willy-nilly, one has to figure out what it would be like to experience it first hand in Kiev, Dnepropetrovsk or Odessa. And the Russian “Kalibrs” and “Kinzhals”, which also fly to Western Ukraine, transparently hint that Lvov should not relax either. Super-patriotic authorities in many cases demonstrate total lack of professionalism and inability to organize life in emergency circumstances in the territories for which they are responsible—as a result, an increasing number of settlements is threatened with a humanitarian catastrophe.

And all this happens very slowly, day after day, yet inexorably—so that reality begins to break through into the brains of the Ukrainian society, tightly washed by Nazi propaganda. You see, at such a pace, when our military enters Kiev, Dnepropetrovsk and Odessa, there will be a sufficient number of people sobered up from propaganda with whom it will be possible to talk about the future of their country.


¹ The Ribbon of St. George, which is used to commemorate the Soviet victory in the Great Patriotic War, is composed of black and orange stripes. The Colorado potato beetle has the same color scheme. Ukrainian Nationalists and other Russophobes use “Colorados” as a pejorative for those who remember Soviet sacrifices and victory in the Great Patriotic War and who oppose Ukrainian Nationalists’ rewriting of history and lies about the Red Army. They use “fried Colorados” as a mocking reference to 42 people who were burned alive by Ukrainian Nationalists on May 2, 2014 at the Trade Unions House building in Odessa. Some Ukrainian restaurants started offering dishes called “fried Colorados” to mock those victims.

² Of course, Kuban was never Ukrainian to be “recaptured”, but that is how Ukrainian Nationalists often describe their plans of annexing Kuban to the Ukraine.

Posted by: S | Mar 27 2022 19:22 utc | 75

https://twitter.com/DrTara05923422/status/1508004801962991616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1508119188426014725%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.veteranstoday.com%2F2022%2F03%2F27%2Fmariupols-nazi-torture-factories-revealed-pows-shot-for-twitter-videos-extreme-warning-graphic-torture%2F

Dr.Tara:
"The commander of the Mariupol neo-Nazis tried to escape with his troops in disguise, which was captured by Russia and turned into a city where the Russian-speaking people beheaded and beheaded for their crimes.
I said you might want to see some Russian propaganda lies alongside the true news of Western sympathizers."

Posted by: Olivier | Mar 27 2022 19:24 utc | 76

The fake Mariupol theatre attack by Russia and the Snake Island event also fake reported by BBC Ukrainian.


https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/26/the-bbcs-ukrainian-war-messager/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 27 2022 19:35 utc | 77

from the Greenwald article

And all of those preexisting dangers are, in turn, severely exacerbated by an American president who so often is too age-addled to speak clearly or predictably. That condition is inherently dangerous, made all the more so by the fact that it leaves him vulnerable to manipulation by the Democratic Party's national security advisers who will never forget 2016 and seem more intent than ever on finally attaining vengeance against Putin, no matter the risks. Speaking to U.S. troops in Poland on Friday, a visibly exhausted and rambling President Biden — after extensive travel, time-zone hopping, protracted meetings and speeches — appeared to tell U.S. troops that they were on their way to see first-hand the resistance of Ukrainians, meaning they were headed into Ukraine:

Biden is not driving this. I'm sure he is an age addled cheerleader for it, but he needs to be reminded to go to the bathroom to avoid accidents.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 27 2022 19:44 utc | 78

@jared #45:

New interview of Scott Ritter on Grayzone. https://youtu.be/OSkpIq3T-Zc

I thought his performance was pretty poor -

Really? Did we watch the same interview? I think it was the best interview The Grayzone has ever done, period. A must-watch, jam-packed with useful information.

He seemed to deflect most of thier questions with unrelated stories of his personal adventures.

That’s absolutely not true. He did veer off into Iraq stories, but he answered all questions asked by Blumenthal and Maté in great detail.

Not sure why are you mischaracterizing this interview.

Posted by: S | Mar 27 2022 19:48 utc | 79

Posted by: Tom_12 | Mar 27 2022 18:32 utc | 72:

It does seem TV is god here in the western spheres. But TV is god only because people here made them so. Does this says something about the people in the western spheres or does it says something about god?

An alternative way of viewing this is to objectively critique the innate nature of people in the western world. Some Asian pundits/historians have come to some conclusions that western culture (or civilization if you will), as seem through historical facts, is basically aggressive and invasive. Perhaps these accusations (which encompasses the god it created, of course) have some merits after all.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 27 2022 19:49 utc | 80

* you are

Posted by: S | Mar 27 2022 19:49 utc | 81

@ S 74
First, thanks for translation. Excellent narrative by Irina Alksnis, including considerations of mass psychology. . ."And all this happens very slowly, day after day, yet inexorably—so that reality begins to break through. . ."

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 27 2022 19:59 utc | 82

Posted by: S | Mar 27 2022 19:48 utc | 78

I strongly agree, it was full of information, and the personal anecdotes reinforced the information. We are replaying the Iraq War, such stories are highly relevant.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 27 2022 20:02 utc | 83

Remember the magical 5 day war. Well it was magical. The Russian defeat of Ukraine is more magical. NATO prepped the country for 8 years and they fell in 3 days.

Posted by: steve | Mar 27 2022 20:13 utc | 84

A good site for updates

https://www.veteranstoday.com/

Posted by: jo6pac | Mar 27 2022 20:16 utc | 85

@jared #52:

However, I would like to add that on the Russian side I (intel slav) I am seeing posts which are also humiliating of POWs.

Humiliating? In what way? Chechens making Ukrainian POWs shout “Akhmat sila”? How can you even begin to compare that to the actual physical torture, mutilation and killing of Russian POWs by Ukrainians?

Posted by: S | Mar 27 2022 20:17 utc | 86

@ Arioch | Mar 27 2022 17:54 utc | 62

i hit the reload button, as often times the post i make won't show initially... try hitting reload or refresh... it works for me.. cheers...

Posted by: james | Mar 27 2022 20:20 utc | 87

It's been quite a while since I've come to the bar. So much happening with Ukraine and the implications of the U.S. response that it's hard to keep up with the commentary. One question I don't believe has been asked here, sorry if I missed it, is regarding the predicted false flag by the Ukrainians. I agree this has a very high probability. Gonzalo Lira pu up a very involved explanation as to why he believes it will happen in Kiev next week. Since Russian intelligence would certainly be aware of such a possibility they surely have a plan on how to deal with any false flag event. Particular if it involves something like a small tactical nuke that levels a city block, or worse. Given that the Americans will have learned a lot from the false flag chemical attack in Syria, one assumes they will plan a much more sophisticated one on which to blame the Russians in Ukraine. So my question is this: What contingency plan could Russia in store have to counter what will be front page news around thew world?

Posted by: krypton | Mar 27 2022 20:34 utc | 88

Apparently Donald Trump is very upset because Zelensky is upstaging his role as the West's leading reality TV personality. Stealing his thunder so to speak.

'Sources say'...:) Trump raged on and on asking who does this wanker think he is? How am I supposed to fleece the dimwits while the Dems are bribing the MSM to focus on him and not me? He's not American, he has no right to fleece ma people!!!

Given the mood at the moment, and impending doom, I thought you might appreciate a bit of dark humour.

Moving on, the West's largest Hedge Fund CEO, Blackrock guy Fink says Globalism is dead.

I think the EU bluffed, or maybe better said thought it a good idea to play Russian Roulette with a Russian..Didn't Hitler try something like that?

I read a lot, don't write much now but will just say I don't see a lot of sunshine on the horizon. For those in the West who bought into the new phony economic ponzi scheme, I see nothing but a world of hurt. Much less so, of course, than the innocents in Ukraine for whom I do truly weep. But my old head tells me many common people, in many places, are not only going be hurt, some many lives will be destroyed, and they will be angry, and looking for people to blame.

Don't bring a checker board to chess match is one way of putting it I suppose.

Different from the usual posts, I would like to mention the Aid Agencies who try to help the victims of the queer people who dominate geopolitics. UNHCR, Red Cross, Red Crescent, World Vision, Oxfam..whichever agencies you see worthy. Without them many more innocents suffer and many will perish.

Imagine if you can, that it was your Son or Daughter caught in the horror.

I read a number of the comments here, skim others but I don't see a lot from people who identify as Vietnam Veterans. A few, but not many. I think it would helpful to hear from more of them and they should identify themselves, and speak of their experiences, if they can.

I know this isn't a Legion, but I think many here, at the Bar, could benefit from hearing from you. IMHO. I can only speak through the Looking Glass, as to not stir the demons who come in the night, it has taken so long to quiet.


One Nazi and 10 other people sat at a table having a discussion.

The result was 11 nazi's having a discussion

Not an exact quote, I read it somewhere on twitter interweeb.


Told you I read a lot.


And Jesus wept.

Posted by: bubbles | Mar 27 2022 20:38 utc | 89

Patrick Lancaster wrote the following on Telegram yesterday

Just back from center mariupol. No words to describe but I will try. 

One of the worst days of my life(mentally).

Heavy fighting and just hell there. Bodies everywhere(every 10 meters). And we found a Ukrainian base in basement of a school with with a naked dead woman with a swastika painted with her own blood on her stomach and a bag around her neck. Just really bad day. Emotionally draining. But we were able to safe an elderly  woman and take her to her son in Donetsk. Over next day I will release several reports

Today Colonel Cassad shared photos from the scene. (More)

The body of a young woman lies on the floor with her hands tied behind her back, half naked and covered by rags or blankets. A plastic bag has been tied over her head. A large swastika has been burnt on the skin of her stomach with hot irons, evidently while she was still alive.

In Mariupol, nationalists burned a swastika on a girl's body Horrible PHOTOS and VIDEO

DPR fighters showed us the girl's body - it lies in the basement of one of the schools in Mariupol, where the base of the Azov nationalists was. One of the girl's arms was torn off, the remains of a plastic bag or adhesive tape are visible on her head, and a swastika is burned on her stomach.

How we got these shots is another story: a little later I will publish a post with details and a video. So far - a few photos and a short video. Who else has any doubts about Ukrainian nationalists?

Patrick Lancaster has now uploaded a 9 minute video from the site, a school used as an Azov base.

Woman Found Tortured in School Basement "Military Base" in Mariupol

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 27 2022 20:54 utc | 90

It seems to me that the suicidally-insane animus of our Western plutocracy against Russia and in particular Putin arises from the conquest of Russia being a necessary preliminary to the conquest of China, and that the plutocracy were actually feasting fat on Russia when someone they thought was their comprador as much as Yeltsin turned on them.

In short, the accelerated drive of NATO east and the 2014 coup have all been the acts of a predator cheated of its prey.

What are the best studies of what happened in Russia when Western plutocratic rapacity was unleashed there?

I am aware that the usual unemployment, dispossessions and so on skyrocketed.

Rapacity of course has no limits--see Lebanon and Sri Lanka for small examples, and this telling gem from America, where the populace continues to allow themselves and their children to be driven into the ground by the plutocracy:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/27/us/mobile-home-park-ownership-costs.html

Posted by: John Kennard | Mar 27 2022 20:55 utc | 91

Posted by: james | Mar 27 2022 20:20 utc | 86

i know and i did reload, but like i said, for few minutes NONE of my comments appeared, then after few minutes - all of them suddenly popped up.

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Patric Lancaster from Mariupol, in a school basement there was found a woman *ritually tortured and murdered*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LQSYmda0Sc
https://t.me/PatrickLancaterNewsToday/1761

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 27 2022 20:55 utc | 92

Don't bring a checker board to chess match

Posted by: bubbles | Mar 27 2022 20:38 utc | 88

Um, how does one tell the difference? Am I missing something here?

Posted by: farm ecologist | Mar 27 2022 20:57 utc | 93

checker board is 10x10 ;-)

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 27 2022 21:02 utc | 94

krypton | Mar 27 2022 20:34 utc | 87

I dont know who was behind the Ghouta false flag but all the later ones were the Brits via their white helmets. the Brits have a big pretense in Ukraine and Whenever US gets side tracked by China or something else the brits pull them back to Ukraine and Russia. Zelensky constantly trying to pull the US and Europe into war with Russia.Who is writing his lines? The Brits or the CIA.
I think even if the US does not pull a false flag the Brits will. Even if its just to push the Europeans into severing all links with Russia - gas oil ect - it will have to be big.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 27 2022 21:08 utc | 95

!!!

So all these years I've been playing checkers on a chessboard?

Posted by: farm ecologist | Mar 27 2022 21:11 utc | 96

#52
However, I would like to add that on the Russian side I (intel slav) I am seeing posts which are also humiliating of POWs.

I am on Intel Slava too. Which posts? Which videos? Links? I saw a prisoner who could speak with his wife. I saw a woman azov doctor who could see videos of the killings of civilians by her kind. Is it for you a kind of torture?

See my post #75: the video shows that the commander is beaten by civilians when the soldiers bring him away from the wrath.

Posted by: Olivier | Mar 27 2022 21:14 utc | 97

Posted by: Alessandro Cagliostr | Mar 27 2022 16:08 utc | 32

why should you be perplexed? if russia continues to supply gas, it is because they are respecting contracts, it shows them as serious people, while the other side acts stupidly, or intentionally (great reset and all...). after current contracts expire, it requires rubles if you want gas. also this shows them as serious people, it's their right to ask to be paid in whatever form they deem it necessary for THEIR product. don't like it? go pound sand.

i see it as a form of humiliation (among other things) that russia is submitting west to, mostly europeans which depend on THEIR gas. even your prime minister draghi said in the press that it's unacceptable to pay in rubles, or something to that effect. after some time, when push comes to shove, and it's time to pay for new contracts, what will this drag do? he will have to buy gas in rubles or leave italians without gas, as will happen with all those european countries who depend on it and who are designated "unfriendly countries".

i am in europe and it pains me to state this, but we're in for some trouble in the future. some big plans are in motion and we don't know what exactly, we're just trying to figure it out as events unfold in these interesting times. however, i take pleasure in seeing the clouns (all our european politicians) shown as clueless, stupid, and ignoramuses, not to say evil.

Posted by: albagen | Mar 27 2022 21:14 utc | 98

Focus on Ukraine, Russia not fooling those within Outlaw US Empire, as this article reveals:

The approval rating of US President Joe Biden has fallen to 40% as the midterm elections draw closer, the latest NBC News poll conducted between 18 and 22 March has shown. Some 71% of respondents indicated that they believe their country is "on the wrong track".

Americans were specifically concerned by issues related to the economy, with 64% disapproving of Biden's handling of it. 62% said that their income has shrunk amid the growing cost of living. A majority of respondents considered this to be the most important issue facing the US.

The poll also showed that Americans generally disapprove of the POTUS' handling of foreign policy issues, with 51% believing that he has underperformed in this sphere. The respondents also negatively evaluated Biden's policy on Ukraine, as only 28% assessed it positively.

IMO, it's also likely that much of the Anti-Russian propaganda isn't sticking either. If media was honest, Biden's negatives would be much larger.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 27 2022 21:27 utc | 99

Does anyone know about this Wagner Group, described by mainstream media as "Putin's Nazis?" I just wonder how much credibility this has.

Posted by: Dennis R Morgan | Mar 27 2022 21:29 utc | 100

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