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March 24, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-34
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Methinks none of you lived in Poland under Soviet rule so you are free to talk BS about things you have no clue of. Posted by: pppp | Mar 24 2022 22:21 utc | 201 Report from Donbass Insider Telegram channel… Also there was a report from Mariupol saying that in almost every apartment complex are dead bodies of neo-Nazis. They had expelled the residents and turned them into firing points and are now dead in them. DPR flag raised over center of the city.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 22:27 utc | 202 Tom_Q_Collins @194– Cabe nr. 192 Posted by: JB | Mar 24 2022 22:33 utc | 204 From MoD Russian Telegram Channel…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 22:35 utc | 205 pppp @199– now this, to me, is more than just a little bit interesting – ‘annexation’ is on the table now!? Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 24 2022 22:39 utc | 207 From MoD Russia Telegram channel…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 22:40 utc | 208 Posted by: bevin | Mar 24 2022 22:20 utc | 198 Posted by: David F | Mar 24 2022 22:49 utc | 209 Posted by: JB | Mar 24 2022 22:33 utc | 202 Posted by: Goran | Mar 24 2022 22:55 utc | 210 Posted by: pppp | Mar 24 2022 22:21 utc | 199
Ok, so why do you hate Russians then? Posted by: hopehely | Mar 24 2022 23:00 utc | 211 India tells a high-powered cross-party UK delegation to not bother coming anymore. They were expected to lecture India over their Russia ties. Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 24 2022 23:02 utc | 212 In other news, Donald Trump is suing Hillary Clinton Posted by: bubbles | Mar 24 2022 23:10 utc | 213 @Arne Hartmann (210) Posted by: bjd | Mar 24 2022 23:10 utc | 214 All three of Kiev Mayor Klitschko’s children are American citizens born at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. A son was born in 2000, a daughter in 2002, and another son in 2005, making them now ages 22, 20, and 17. Posted by: susan mullen | Mar 24 2022 23:12 utc | 215 Arne Hartmann @210– March 24, 2022 Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 24 2022 23:15 utc | 217 The was no such thing as Soviet “occupied” Poland,infact during Communist rule it was the first and only time Poland had any resemblance of true sovereignty. Posted by: Lolgege | Mar 24 2022 23:16 utc | 218 Posted by: Goran | Mar 24 2022 22:55 utc | 208
Are you sure that M stood for a Muslim and not for a Macedonian or perhaps, Hungarian? 😛 Posted by: hopehely | Mar 24 2022 23:21 utc | 219 This is just too funny, “Checkmate fighter’s designers took into account Lockheed F-117A’s weaknesses — patent” The USG giving away its own secrets! The US west is starting to look desperate. Massive propaganda operation to try and bury bio weapons, Kinzal demo plus other assorted firepower. India China, gulf head choppers all telling US//UK where to go, trying to be best buddies to Iran and Venezuela. At the moment it looks a toss up if next move is a major false flag in Ukraine or to dig the hole deeper by sanctioning China. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 24 2022 23:38 utc | 221 Just an addition to make my point: This slide shows that China and India combined had between 60-80% share of world GDP from around 0 to 1800, when the British conquered India and extracted the raw materials for her empire from the sub continent by force. China came under European dominance some 60 years later (Opium wars). The slide shows that the pendulum is swinging back and this Ukraine war seems to be an inflection point. Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 24 2022 23:48 utc | 222
… You must be a special kind of stupid.
Posted by: Laurence | Mar 24 2022 23:49 utc | 223 Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 24 2022 23:02 utc | 210 Posted by: Unnamed | Mar 24 2022 23:50 utc | 224 Yes, this is OT, but very important. Yves wrote this today about the ruble payment issue, and Michael Hudson made the following comment: Russian imposter engages in video call with UK Defence Secretary Wallace. Posted by: Sushi | Mar 24 2022 23:56 utc | 226 @David F | Mar 24 2022 20:30 utc | 174 Posted by: james | Mar 24 2022 23:56 utc | 227 @ bubbles | Mar 24 2022 23:10 utc | 211 Posted by: james | Mar 25 2022 0:03 utc | 228 Posted by: ptb | Mar 24 2022 15:47 utc | 48 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 25 2022 0:34 utc | 229 @ karlof1 | Mar 24 2022 23:52 utc | 223 with the Michael Hudson follow on about what Russia going into Ukraine has born….thanks Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 25 2022 0:37 utc | 230 Posted by: Boo | Mar 24 2022 16:14 utc | 65 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 25 2022 0:39 utc | 231 @ bubbles | Mar 24 2022 23:10 utc | 211 Posted by: bubbles | Mar 25 2022 0:57 utc | 232 Pentagon Drops Truth Bombs to Stave Off War With Russia Posted by: daffyDuct | Mar 25 2022 1:00 utc | 233 Richard Steven Hack | Mar 25 2022 0:39 utc | 229 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 1:01 utc | 234 @james | Mar 24 2022 18:59 utc | 145 Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 25 2022 1:02 utc | 235 Inflation doesn’t make national debt a problem, not in the least; inflation makes it go away. The US never paid off it’s war debts from WW2, it inflated them away. US debt is all locked in at under 2%; if inflation tracks closer to 5% for 5 years, that debt just becomes a pittance. All that consumer debt becomes manageable. IF they increase progressive income taxes, IF they nationalize healthcare (in the US) IF they keep the stimulus, raise the Minimum wage, and raise it again; we can be much better that we would otherwise be. (loss of dollar hegemony potentially is no big deal, if we’d give up the Empire dreams, cash that “peace dividend” we never realized and reinvest domestically…I have very little faith in that, so we’ll see/feel pain; but it will all be again, self inflicted) Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 25 2022 1:17 utc | 236 @ bubbles | Mar 25 2022 0:57 utc | 230 Posted by: james | Mar 25 2022 1:24 utc | 237 The Lobster articles on Hess are from issue 81, from 2021. Posted by: Lysias | Mar 25 2022 1:24 utc | 238 What Soviets did should not be blamed on Russians. The Russians were the first and foremost victims of the Bolsheviks. Read Solzhenitsyn. Posted by: Lysias | Mar 25 2022 1:27 utc | 239 @scottinDallas (234), totally agree but it will hurt the top 10% so the US won’t do it. And since we put all the Boomers’ retirement into the market for the house to make money on, inflation is going to be deadly for them as a double whammy of reduction in investment assets and rising costs. But maybe we’ll get lucky and a politician will come around who takes advantage of the opportunity to reorient the US economy and ditch the empire. Probably not, but maybe. Posted by: Lex | Mar 25 2022 1:31 utc | 240 Didn’t Poland have sovereignty before the 18th century partitions? Posted by: Lysias | Mar 25 2022 1:37 utc | 241 Short Xinhua press blurb, on EU’s initial reaction to Russia requiring Ruble payment from countries which obstructed Dollar/Euro commerce. Posted by: ptb | Mar 25 2022 1:41 utc | 242 At the USNATO summit press briefing, President Biden stated this in answer to a question.:
Posted by: Circe | Mar 25 2022 1:51 utc | 243 @ JB | Mar 24 2022 22:33 utc | 202 Posted by: Cabe | Mar 25 2022 1:52 utc | 244 David F @207 Posted by: bevin | Mar 25 2022 2:05 utc | 245 @ Posted by: Lysias | Mar 25 2022 1:37 utc | 239 Posted by: Cabe | Mar 25 2022 2:06 utc | 246 @james | Mar 25 2022 1:24 utc | 235 Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 25 2022 2:12 utc | 247 The problem with Polish nationalism was that it was dominated by a class, the nobility. Posted by: bevin | Mar 25 2022 2:28 utc | 248 pppp@199 Posted by: bevin | Mar 25 2022 2:44 utc | 249 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 1:01 utc | 232 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 25 2022 2:45 utc | 250 you’re in scotland right? i seem to remember you saying that, or was it a canuck with scottish ancestry? Posted by: bubbles | Mar 25 2022 2:52 utc | 251 Richard Steven Hack | Mar 25 2022 2:45 utc | 248 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 2:57 utc | 252 From Colonel Cassad’s Telegram channel… Looks like the Ukrainian government is preparing to flee from Kiev…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 25 2022 3:03 utc | 253 RSH @ 229, 248, Peter AU 1 @ 232: Posted by: Jen | Mar 25 2022 3:04 utc | 254 bubbles | Mar 25 2022 2:52 utc | 249 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 3:19 utc | 255 Posted by: Jen | Mar 25 2022 3:04 utc | 252 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 25 2022 3:33 utc | 256 @ Vintage Red | Mar 25 2022 2:12 utc | 245 Posted by: james | Mar 25 2022 3:39 utc | 257 This is the closing of Biden’s press conference today fully illustrating his total incompetence as president. Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 25 2022 3:41 utc | 258 I can’t catch any news on the Azov Regiment — are they finished? TIA Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 25 2022 3:42 utc | 259 Jen | Mar 25 2022 3:04 utc | 252 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 3:46 utc | 260 Posted by: Lysias | Mar 25 2022 1:27 utc | 237 Posted by: bystander 04 | Mar 25 2022 3:49 utc | 261 Diminished food supply resulting from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has potential consequences beyond empty stomachs, Agco chief executive Eric Hansotia told CNBC’s Jim Cramer on Thursday. Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 25 2022 3:50 utc | 262 Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 25 2022 3:42 utc | 257 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 25 2022 3:51 utc | 263 RedScorpion (Z) Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 3:57 utc | 264 Posted by: librul | Mar 24 2022 18:12 utc | 118
The 1812 Overture was for a long time used in the Australian army’s recruitment propaganda (complete with a whistled snippet at the end over visuals of happy blokes in camo in the bush). As I have been out of the country for two decades, I don’t know if it was ever replaced. I suspect not, as it was “iconic”. Posted by: Herr Ringbone | Mar 25 2022 4:04 utc | 265 @Posted by: bevin | Mar 25 2022 2:28 utc | 246 Nuland in India. What did she achieve? US can buy used Russian/Soviet style weapons and spare parts from India and give it to Ukraine to help there. Posted by: bystander 04 | Mar 25 2022 4:05 utc | 267 @ Richard Steven Hack 261 Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 25 2022 4:10 utc | 268 @bystander 04 265 Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 25 2022 4:15 utc | 269 @Posted by: bystander 04 | Mar 25 2022 3:49 utc | 259 Any ideas about what happened to the Orsk in Berdyansk? The Ukies claim to have set it on fire, but handling ammo & explosives is always dangerous by itself. Posted by: KP | Mar 25 2022 4:17 utc | 271 Ah- ignore me! I was a page behind & see it has been posted. Posted by: KP | Mar 25 2022 4:19 utc | 272 The multipolar world. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 4:22 utc | 273 @265 Posted by: R | Mar 25 2022 4:22 utc | 274 Roger @ 134 Posted by: Man | Mar 25 2022 4:26 utc | 275 @james | Mar 25 2022 3:39 utc | 255 Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 25 2022 4:38 utc | 276
To the tune of Stompin’ Tom Conners’ Market Place theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt0qVqwDUUA Posted by: Laurence | Mar 25 2022 4:40 utc | 277 @Don Bacon | Mar 25 2022 3:42 utc | 257 Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 25 2022 4:42 utc | 278 Better India-China ties would be a HUGE LOSS to the US’s Indo-Pacific program, with its title and also the the new label on the Pentagon’s force in the area, US Indo-Pacific Command reflecting US hopes that India (and the Indian Ocean) would now belong to the US also as reflected in the Quad — US, Japan, Oz and India — which was meant to be anti-China BUT China is never mentioned in any of their meeting summaries, probably India’s doing. Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 25 2022 4:43 utc | 279 Speaking of `Messianic Twats’, Steve @ 9 certainly set of a shitstorm, eh? Posted by: Laurence | Mar 25 2022 4:45 utc | 280 daffyDuct @ 231 Posted by: circumspect | Mar 25 2022 5:40 utc | 281 Reuters has a posting title claiming that 60% of “some” Russian missiles in Ukraine are failing….how to lie/obfuscate with a straight face….sigh Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 25 2022 5:41 utc | 282 Divide and conquer has ended. Assad was invited to Bahrain, Iran exhibited its military products at Doha. India China understand divide and conquer. Turning of an era now I have to keep going to explain it to my kids who are raising their own families. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 5:42 utc | 283 psychohistorian | Mar 25 2022 5:41 utc | 280 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 5:50 utc | 284 Mariupol, March 25, 2022
Mariupol, 25. März 2022
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 25 2022 5:58 utc | 285 “The road is long and winding, and error screams at one from every turn” Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 6:01 utc | 286 What the Soviet film “Come and See” can teach us about Ukraine. It’s not necessarily what you think. Posted by: Ian Kummer | Mar 25 2022 6:09 utc | 287 Posted by: Steve | mar 24 2022 13:26 utc | 9 Posted by: Northern Eve | Mar 25 2022 6:10 utc | 288 I do not understand why Zelensky will not accept Putin’s terms. It’s so infuriating. Posted by: Circe | Mar 25 2022 6:18 utc | 289 well, like Gonzalo says below, there’s a gonna be a lot of cold Germans, & without electricity (and industries) the next year or two…. or three… Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 25 2022 6:18 utc | 290 @Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 6:01 utc | 284 Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 25 2022 6:25 utc | 291 Circe “I do not understand why Zelensky will not accept Putin’s terms. It’s so infuriating.” Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 6:25 utc | 292 Steve @ 9 Posted by: Man | Mar 25 2022 6:31 utc | 293 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 4:22 utc | 271 Posted by: watcher | Mar 25 2022 6:33 utc | 294 Amazing what a totally fallacious assumption of propriety covers for. Posted by: Laurence | Mar 25 2022 6:45 utc | 295 Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 25 2022 4:43 utc | 277 Posted by: Paaul | Mar 25 2022 6:56 utc | 296 yep we are whities watcher, masters of the universe until it all ends of course. So many peoples in his world. so many cultures. you are Australian watcher. I am tired. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 25 2022 6:57 utc | 297 [‘nother] Ukrainian Training Base for Foreign Mercs Destroyed in Iskander Missile Strike – Video[Media is too big, view in Telegram.] https://sputniknews.com/20220325/ukrainian-training-base-for-foreign-mercenaries-destroyed-in-iskander-missile-strike—russian-mod–1094173179.html Posted by: Laurence | Mar 25 2022 7:01 utc | 298 [Possible 🤭] Erratum @ | Mar 25 2022 6:45 utc | 293 Posted by: Laurence | Mar 25 2022 7:07 utc | 299
https://www.politico.eu/article/germanys-scholz-rejects-putins-rubles-for-gas-demand/ Posted by: Laurence | Mar 25 2022 7:17 utc | 300 |
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