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March 6, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-22

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@ Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 2:14 utc | 295… you beat me to it!

Posted by: james | Mar 7 2022 2:19 utc | 301

Can Russia or “the west” afford to lose this battle – would either accept that outcome? Initially, I assumed the west knew it would lose, but it appears that they are instead escalating. They are becoming convinced that they cannot afford to lose.
Honestly, does UN have any credibility? Seems Russia/China/India/Iran should form an alternative.

Posted by: jared | Mar 7 2022 2:19 utc | 302

@296. Autocorrected mistake made. Should be Geoffrey Pyatt.

Posted by: suzan | Mar 7 2022 2:21 utc | 303

Military aerodrome in Ukraine’s Vinnitsa destroyed by Russian high-precision weapons
https://tass.com/defense/1417947
This was a signal to Poland…
Ukraine officials confirm 8 Russian missiles struck city of Vinnytsia far from front line, airport destroyed
https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-8-russian-missiles-struck-vinnytsia-airport-destroyed

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 2:21 utc | 304

@ jared | Mar 7 2022 2:19 utc | 300
although no where near the same, who won and lost in syria? or, has it not been worked out yet?? i suspect this will unfold the same, so long as nothing insane happens.

Posted by: james | Mar 7 2022 2:22 utc | 305

Posted by: james | Mar 7 2022 2:19 utc | 299
I beat myself a lot… 🙂

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 2:25 utc | 306

It seems credible that the influence of the owners is manifested as fascism which can then become extreme.

Posted by: jared | Mar 7 2022 2:26 utc | 307

Russian foreign ministry is accessible again. From a very long briefing by Zakharova on the 3rd
https://www.mid.ru/en/press_service/spokesman/briefings/1802683/#2

Just recently, we circulated a presentation on the war crimes committed by the Ukrainian leadership in Donbass at the session of the Human Rights Council in Geneva (February 28). You can find it on the website of Russia’s Permanent Mission to the United Nations Office in Geneva. This is a terrifying photo report depicting people who were killed, and the destruction caused in Donbass. Today, when they lament about the casualties, while we offer our condolences to all the families, just remember that you tacitly accepted the atrocities for all these years. Let me repeat what I have been saying all along. An awakening of the conscience cannot happen suddenly.
There is no shortage of evidence from multiple sources. Some documents are publicly available, including on the Foreign Ministry website. It has been facing DDoS attacks, specifically designed to prevent us from releasing all these documents. We understand that not everyone reads these documents, while some of those who do pretend otherwise. We will draw your attention to these materials again and again.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 2:28 utc | 308

https://t.me/s/QVINTAAETAS/
good link for updates on what is happening in ukraine..

Posted by: james | Mar 7 2022 2:28 utc | 309

Posted by: suzan | Mar 7 2022 2:16 utc | 296
Thanks for the link. One more hour and a half video to add to the 21 other videos I still have to watch. Sigh…This is becoming exhausting. I literally can not get anything done here at home due to being locked to the computer for 16 hours reviewing the Ukraine war output. My computer has 5GB worth of articles saved already, 984 of them.
I was thinking of putting all this stuff on my Substack newsletter, but haven’t had time to get to it. Wasn’t planning on covering a war there, either, but it would make sense for me to just dump links there and refer everyone to that. Problem is getting the time to do it due to the avalanche of data.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 2:32 utc | 310

Ret. Ed. #292

ICYMI, The ISW has some very detailed, informative publications that are relatively fast reads; also detailed data on the invasion as it unfolds. The ISW has boots on the ground. | https://www.understandingwar.org/publications (accessed 06.03.2022 0156UTC)

thank you.
It reads like western eyes only interpretation IMO.
Barflies might examine the pedigree of these three editors of the recent piece Ret. Ed. recommends:
Fredrick W. Kagan, George Barros, and Kateryna Stepanenko
I am not saying it is propaganda but if the westies needed some for the evening news then the following introductory paragraph would be dribbling out of Maddow’s mouth:

The military situation on the ground has not changed significantly in the past 24 hours. Russian forces continue to mass for renewed offensive operations east and west of Kyiv, west of Kharkiv, and toward Mykolayiv-Odesa but have not yet initiated new large-scale ground attacks. Russia has increased aerial and artillery/rocket attacks on civilian positions and infrastructure, including known evacuation corridors. Ukrainian forces reportedly conducted a second counter-attack in two days, this time near Mariupol. The Ukrainian air force and air defense forces continue to operate, inflicting damage on Russian ground forces and disrupting Russian air and missile operations.

?”boots on the ground” more like “Azov reporters in a sober mood”.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 2:34 utc | 311

Zakharova on the alleged biological weapons and everything else going on. This is a HUGE briefing!
https://www.mid.ru/en/press_service/spokesman/briefings/1802683/#2

Numerous materials on US military biological activities in Ukraine have been made public recently. On March 2, Natural News, rightwing bioethics website, posted a journalistic investigation into the Pentagon’s relevant activities that run counter to Washington’s obligations under the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (Biological) and Toxin Weapons and on their Destruction. According to the website, various facilities created under the aegis of the Department of Defence (Federal Agency for Threat Prevention), including the Science and Technology Centre in Ukraine (CTCU), have recently received hundreds of millions of US dollars in funding for clandestine scientific and applied research. The author, Ethan Huff, does not rule out that the outbreaks of different diseases observed in the region (flue, cholera, Zika virus, and others) could be caused, among other things, by America’s military biological activities in Ukraine. Just read the article for yourself.
For their part, specialists have highlighted another aspect. In late February, the US Embassy in Ukraine unexpectedly removed from public access all documents related to military biological cooperation between Washington and Kiev. The earlier posted documents were deleted.
Just imagine that NATO has supplied a huge amount of offensive weapons of various types, without the slightest justification, to a location in the centre of Europe in direct vicinity of Russian borders, where Russian citizens live in addition to numerous other people who find themselves in these territories by a twist of fate. At the same time, the US and Ukraine have been actively promoting their biological cooperation, including experiments and the like, in the same sector. Apart from everything else, all of this is accompanied by NATO-Ukraine military exercises, held once every six weeks, where Russia is the hypothetical adversary. To top it off, the Ukrainian president makes a statement that they are ready to consider the possibility of Ukraine acquiring nuclear weapons, which comes amid a wild nationalist frenzy in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who regard all Russians as their main enemy. The time has come, they say to the entire international community (which is now pretending that it is shocked) at the Munich Security Conference. But why wasn’t it shocked at the idea that a country with so many problems and overflowing with Western weapons can have nuclear weapons in addition? (It has the capacity for that and, of course, support from the United States.) Actually, it might already possess dirty nuclear technologies. Shall we wait somewhat longer? But for what? Senior representatives of the United States say they had no intention of talking to Ukraine about deploying nuclear weapons. No plans! But who do we believe? They are the people who have systematically lied for decades, while launching under the cover of lies military operations all over the world, resulting in millions of victims. There is an important nuance that makes this story even more dramatic. The thing is that the United States, which has nuclear weapons as a matter of official record, has them not only on US territory. Few people in Russia, let alone the world, know about this. Who is keen to know? The United States has its nuclear weapons in several countries of Europe. Practically next door to Russia. At the same time, the European countries, their armed forces and their intelligence services have no ability whatsoever to control these weapons. Is that normal?

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 2:39 utc | 312

Martyanov comments on the Yuri Podolyaka report about Russians being forced out of villages and the NATO laptop, brought up by a commentator on his site.

smoothieX12 . Mod Amalteya • 8 hours ago
I already banned you, loser. Per Podolyaka–the reason I don’t even refer to him is precisely because the boy suddenly recognized that US supplies the VSU with Recon and even targeting. He finally noticed that and describes BS about finding laptop with this data today. Wow! Poor-poor dears in Russia’s General Staff, they didn’t know this like… since 2014. In related news, evidently Podolyaka also doesn’t understand the difference between tactical episode involving tank battalion and counter-offensive which is a “slightly” different scale thingy. Have a nice life, find some military porn site and express your butt-hurt there.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 2:49 utc | 313

The section Richard Steven Hack quoted – this was the last sentence in the section on Bio weapons in Ukraine.

As for the US biological activities in Ukraine, the Americans have clearly tried to pretend like nothing happened and sweep any trace of it under the rug. This topic is also a source of concern for us.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 2:58 utc | 314

Posted by: circumspect | Mar 6 2022 23:28 utc | 215

I was and this was not his usual war rhetoric. What shocked me was the statement that Russia could take all the Black Sea coast and Eastern Ukraine and Europe will want to get back to business as usual after its over.

As far as EU, he was implying that EU is dependent on Russia therefore they’ll overlook what Russia does with Ukraine in the long run.
I think Bolton has always considered China the biggest threat to U.S. supremacy and he really made that clear. He’s of the mindset that the priority should be to keep Russia and China apart, as it will be easier to contain China that way, and although he pretended the U.S. dollar will never be challenged by the yuan: he knows that as allies, China and Russia would present a credible threat. So maybe he’s pretending: it’s better to pull Russia closer with concessions, than to alienate Russia and have it run into China’s arms and that would be very bad for the U.S., but I’m reaching here. I know that’s what you might have wanted to hear, but he can’t be trusted, since what he did actually say is that Biden should have seen earlier on that Russia would move on Ukraine and he should have been tougher by better equipping and supporting Ukraine sooner. So really, he can’t be trusted at all where Russia is concerned. He wants his cake and eat it too. Ideally he wants to sow discord between Russia and China, but Russia must be subservient to U.S. geopolitical interests.
You piqued my interest in the interview by describing him as uncharacteristically tame, but you know what? He can go to hell, and that’s the last time I give that mustache the time of day.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 7 2022 2:59 utc | 315

British independent journalist, Graham Phillips, who has been reporting on the Ukraine situation since 2014, now in Minsk.
Ukraine – Is it War And if so, then Why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9NWe2kdJBk

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 3:02 utc | 316

Thanks to Peter AU1 and RSH for the comments related to the US funded bio-chemical sites in Ukraine
The MSM has kept the lid on the Covid lies so far so I am not sure if what you are sharing will ever see the light of day in the West MSM of any sort
The tsunami against the Empire of Lies is growing and I am glad to see that. May it succeed in letting our species evolve beyond this level of social barbarism.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 7 2022 3:31 utc | 317

🇮🇱❌🇸🇾❗️— Reports state that the Syrian Arab Army Air defenses are currently actively facing Israeli airstrikes in the Damascus area!
Probably part of the reason for the visit to Moscow this week….

Posted by: WJ | Mar 7 2022 3:37 utc | 318

@Uncle Tungsten #s 287-88
Thank you sir.
Thought provoking insights.

Posted by: $outhpaw | Mar 7 2022 3:41 utc | 319

@ Posted by: james | Mar 7 2022 2:22 utc | 303
Russia had audacity to intercede in Syria. The US was not accustomed to be frustrated. It was about oil.
Russia helped in frustrating US plans for Venezuela. It was about oil.
Kazakhstan – oil and minerals and uranium.
Russia completed the pipeline to Germany – overcoming US efforts to halt completion. It was about oil.
Russia frustrated US plans to weaponize Ukraine, isolating Russia from Europe. Again about oil and this time also about defeat of Russia.
But now it is direct conflict the owners have Russia cornered and they do not want to let up – either Russia is defeated or the owners are defeated. It’s for all the marbles. Perhaps the US does not have control. If the US deescalated, it means defeat, but this time is final.

Posted by: jared | Mar 7 2022 3:42 utc | 320

Posted by: suzan | Mar 7 2022 2:16 utc | 296
“Besides these three gentlemen, I would skip rest of the video…”
100% agree suzan, especially skip the moderator’s (Bruce Fein) brief remarks near the end: he throws in opinions as if they were fact then quickly segues.

Posted by: spudski | Mar 7 2022 3:47 utc | 321

George Galloway weighs in on the finding of alleged biowarfare documents in Ukraine…
If WMDs have been found on the Ukraine border then the game is over for Nato.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPWVALKAEso
You gotta love Gorgeous George, he’s always up on the situation.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 3:49 utc | 322

jared #318
Thank you, yes oil. And then there is current and proposed gas from Nigeria through Algeria to southern europe.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 3:53 utc | 323

I don’t get the impression, even reading ‘samizdat’ sites like this one, that most people are aware that the odds of the human race reaching January the 1st 2023 are quite small, perhaps 50-50.
Posted by: Hidari | Mar 6 2022 17:58 utc | 84
I’m now considering the possibility that war as already been decided upon for us.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/01/03/p5-statement-on-preventing-nuclear-war-and-avoiding-arms-races/
This joint statement on January the 3rd, 2022 was odd at the time but now it makes sense if we assume that undeclared war is on, and this announcement was to reassure us interested observers that they pretty promise to try and not use nuclear weapons. The statement is not equivocal. It also says nothing about biological weapons, or cyber warfare, or other nasty stuff.
Right now we are going through step by step escalation to see who blinks or how far it goes. All are lying to the public, but are also taking the time to make moral justification statements on the side.
There is an opportunity that will surely fall on deaf ears in this forum of partisans for people around the world to globally demonstrated for total disarming of WMD from EVERYONE, and then and only then permit having a go at war.
But our Lords and Masters the world over have decided they want this war and yes they have bunkers and you do not.

Posted by: itslikethis | Mar 7 2022 3:56 utc | 324

From about September of 2002 till March of 2003 (about six months) I carried on an intense protest of the approaching Iraq War. I protested solo, and even in my extremely ‘liberal’ small U.S. city people were constantly putting up posters and yellow ribbons demanding the war all over the place, which I would constantly and persistently tear down. After Bush The Jr. got his war on I was all burnt out, and haven’t really protested much since then.
The perception of my world indoctrinated into me since infancy, has gradually disintegrated. Mussolini was dead wrong about ‘fascism’. The notions of corporate blending with the state, and all of that, is just distraction. Fascism is really the condition that exists when a small aristocratic camp holds the vast majority of citizens as hostages, and regards them to be contemptible. Obviously this must involve profound deception, and often is concealed with the ruse of ‘simulated democracy’. Another form of concealment is the constant condemnation of some minority (sometimes even majority) out-group; perhaps Jews, Russians, etc., in which case the fascists may further be termed ‘nazis’.
The first thing the fascist U.S. ‘founding fathers’ did was slaughter the indigenous people, and they have been slaughtering people in essentially continuous wars ever since. The U.S. was never a democracy, it has been a false simulated ‘democracy’. So now it’s ‘the Russians’ (including of course those in the Ukraine) who are being denounced and attacked via the wanna-be nazis there, who are in reality themselves despised hostages to the real U.S. nazis.
The war in the Ukraine is absolutely not about the Ukraine at all. It is merely about programming the U.S. citizen/hostages to ‘hate’ the Russians, as a means to bolster the fake simulated U.S. ‘democracy’.

Posted by: blues | Mar 7 2022 4:25 utc | 325

itslikethis | Mar 7 2022 3:56 utc | 322
There is just one aggressor and that is US/UK and their toadies and vassals. You say both sides are lying. What, do think there are no nazi’s in Ukraine? over ten thousand ethnic Russian civilians in Ukraine haven’t been killed in the last eight years? That US has not moved its military installations right up to Russia’s borders? That the pentagon does not have bio weapons labs all around Russia’s borders? That Zelensky did not say Ukraine would build nuclear weapons? There is just to much shit that is all too easy to find – its in official fucking documents that can be found at US government websites. Its in official US Gov documents that have been released under freedom of information.
And maggots like yourself say both sides are lying.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 4:27 utc | 326

@286 “Why doesn’t Ukraine just give the jets back to Poland when they are finished with them?”
I don’t think those MIGs will be in very good shape after the Russians shoot them down. The plan is that the US will replace them with something better. This is supposed to make it look like NATO isn’t involved. The whole idea is ridiculous because as RSH notes at #302 the Ukrainians won’t have any airports left anyway.

Posted by: dh | Mar 7 2022 4:57 utc | 327

26 million Russians died due to nazi Germany. Now its the US backing nazi’s in a shithole country and once again Russians are dying. I don’t have any time for cksuckers who come on and say both sides are lying. Nor clowns that want to endorse propaganda on how bad the Russian military is.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 4:59 utc | 328

dh | Mar 7 2022 4:57 utc | 325
It seems the few remaining Ukie aircraft that were getting into the air were taking off from civilian airfields. A couple of those have now been knocked out as well.
I ran onto this
SB News / MILITARY〽️@ASBMilitary·5hUKR Air Force Su-27 jet near Kiev was shot down by Russian S400 from Belarus — 150KM away; setting a world record. The pilot was Ukraine’s legendary Colonel Oleksandr Oksanchenko who was well known for his airshow performances.— now dead & awarded title of hero of Ukraine.
……..
That happened on the 25th apparently. though hero of the nazis would be more appropriate as an award.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 5:13 utc | 329

Peter AU1 #327
Great news, thank you.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 5:21 utc | 330

@ jared | Mar 7 2022 3:42 utc | 318
thanks for answering me jared… i relate well to your response.. now it is a direct response as you note – all the hate expressed towards russia 24-7, especially since russia altered the situation in syria – the skripal bullshit – all of it, were steps happening at the same time the west were trying to bastardize ukraine into some fascist state beholden to right wing nazi freaks, bring us to this juncture.. and indeed, its a critical one…it doesn’t look like russia is going to back down either… and all the shit that the west throws out into the msm matters not… as i have said before – 2 wars happening – propaganda and the one on the ground.. it is the one on the ground that counts…
this isn’t just about the oil, although oil has been denominated in us$ – a byproduct of the bretton woods agreement, and has favoured the usa and their toadies…taking the us$ off the gold standard made it even more so… now the financial system is either coming into a place of complete breakdown, or a slow steady alteration into a multipolar world – which suggests us$ is getting fucked here if the west can’t take russia down… meanwhile the countries of the planet with the largest population – china and india, not to mention iran, pakistan and etc. etc. – are maintaining neutrality over this!!! this must really mess with the minds of these kleptomaniacs on wall st and in the city of london, not to mention a lot of other western centric places… great…
usa going to venezuala to see if they can work out a deal on the oil… if i was maduro, i would insist on getting the gold back, before i even considered working any deal with these snakes and vampires… i am sure he is cognizant of all this, unless he changed his name to guiado!~ the usa and friends are so full of shite, it is hard to stomach… i mostly keep the msm off and closest i come to it is via cbc, our own canuck pravda channel… meanwhile – all alternative views have been silenced….. funny how this is the so called free world and the free world wants to stop any other narrative from surfacing… it tells you how freaked out they are… they know on some level that the people they need to convince of their bullshit the most, aren’t buying it.. that would be the folks at moa and a few other select places.. it is called having an independent mind free of dogma and nationalistic or globalistic bullshit… it’s a rare quality, hard to find these days!!

Posted by: james | Mar 7 2022 5:24 utc | 331

the more things change, the more things stay the same–
“Last week, Quebec restaurant Le Roy Jucep joined the fray, saying it was removing the word “poutine” from its branding in protest of the invasion, according to Canadian daily the Ottawa Citizen.”
anybody remember “freedom fries” from the Iraq War?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 7 2022 5:39 utc | 332

pretzelattack | Mar 7 2022 5:39 utc | 330
New Zealand is banning Russian Planes from its airspace.

Posted by: Keith McClary | Mar 7 2022 5:43 utc | 333

lol… i thought the quebecois loved poutine? but i suppose poutine and putin sound similar… next thing you know uk will no longer call it pudding, as that sounds like putin as well! no jazz musician can play ‘puttin on the ritz’ ever again… not sure what irving berlin would think about that… what other shoe is going to drop?

Posted by: james | Mar 7 2022 5:48 utc | 334

russia = covid….. total ban on russia as a consequence…..

Posted by: james | Mar 7 2022 5:50 utc | 335

In Syria, many Russian officers died going into US jihadi controlled areas to separate Syrian militias from the US jihadis. Now many Russians are dying try to separate normal slavs – military and civilian from US controlled nazi’s. On top of that the nazi heroes are holding many thousands of foreign nationals hostage. Russians are dying to try and save them.
Now the nazi’s apparently have a nuclear installation in Kharkov wired up for demolition.
Those that try and push US bullshit here are somewhat akin to dog droppings on a lawn. Nothing worse than walking on a lawn in bare feet on a warm day than treading in a dog turd.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 5:52 utc | 336

You gotta love Gorgeous George, he’s always up on the situation.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 3:49 utc | 320
Thanks for that. Agree about Galloway. Anyone who can destroy C. Hitchens as he did in 2005 over the Iraq war is indeed a gem.
(That’s on youtube if anyone can possibly find a couple hours to watch.)
I consider his statement about the biolabs and NATO to be accurate. But his 2nd point about warplanes from NATO countries coming into
Ukraine and triggering a Russian response against the country allowing that is a chilling thought. Are we on the cusp…?

Posted by: waynorinorway | Mar 7 2022 5:55 utc | 337

https://t.me/syriangirlpartisan/107
I’ve held back on reporting on Ukraine because i need to focus on my thesis, but since they asked me on the panel, I must Answer. Ukraine was part of the invasion of iraq, and occupied iraq for 5 years with 5000 soldiers. The feigned indignation and hypocrisy on the concept of invasion and occupation is what i find laughable. Turkey, “israel”, and the US condemning this in ukraine while they occupy Syria again laughable. In Ukraine’s case they were invaded because they wanted to join NATO, an organisation of murderous thieves who have caused catastrophic destruction of nation after nation over the last 20 years. Their march to world domination has to be stopped and so it has been, in Ukraine. Ukraine’s president was installed via a george Soros coup called Maidan 2014. He’s a zionist comedian who filmed himself dancing in a BDSM outfit. He’s a clown in clown world. May the NATO brain slug be removed with minimal Damage and if they interfere, Putin has said in no uncertain terms, there will be nukes involved.

Posted by: james | Mar 7 2022 5:56 utc | 338

Xinhuanet is reporting markets there opening down 4% and the US futures markets went down 2% and the PPT have it slowly rising since (I am sure courtesy of the PPT Plunge Protection Team)
The point I want to make is that the financial world are faith breathers but only to a degree. Investment is about risk management and today’s uncertainty adds substantially to the risk because of unknown unknowns….and these folks are paying attention.
I read at ZH that because Russia and Ukraine are so linked to the commodities markets and as other commenters have noted, everything is hypothecated to the max and then derivatives on top, that there might be lots of parties having liquidity problems….the concept of whipsaw comes to mind as the week progresses.
What is the West’s response going to be to Russia demanding some payments now in rubles?
It looks like China is already developing their credit system to work with Russia and what will US say/do regarding more sanctions?
What do other countries think about this attempted financial shakedown of Russia?
ZH has a posting up with a chronological summary of Russian sanctions and related developments but no link

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 7 2022 5:56 utc | 339

Ukraine, having nothing more important to do, has launched a deRussianization campaign to purify the language. The leader’s name will now be spelled ZELENSKYY.

Posted by: Keith McClary | Mar 7 2022 6:00 utc | 340

psychohistorian | Mar 7 2022 5:56 utc | 337
I’m not up on the financial markets but keep us posted. That is going to be interesting to watch in the coming weeks. Though I guess when peak shit hits the fan there will be many howls in the MSM.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 6:12 utc | 341

I am not a finance knowledgeable person but – what happens … once the obligations become due.
Posted by: digital dinosaur | Mar 7 2022 1:38 utc | 275
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As long as the interest rates can be manipulated lower than the true cost of money future obligations are never a problem.
However another issue arises as interest rates are supposed to reflect risk in the market, reflect the chance that an investment is unprofitable.
Manipulating interest rates destroys their predictive function and invites capital to chase folly. An abnormal growth, like cancer metastasizes, drawing real resources from the lifeblood of the economy.
Nerd that he was Marx covered this in Capital Vol. III. Part III. The Law of the Tendency of the Rate of Profit to Fall
Chapter 13. The Law As Such

Posted by: too scents | Mar 7 2022 6:46 utc | 343

OT, on electric cars I beg to differ. Gasoline engine is only about 36% efficient and diesel in the 40s, battery is a lot more efficiency.
True in electric cars you need a heavy battery, but then there is no bulky engine nor transmission.

Posted by: AG | Mar 7 2022 6:49 utc | 344

Use a reliable VPN, tunnel to China. You will have no problems.
Posted by: elmagnosr | Mar 6 2022 17:36 utc | 76
China now becomes the hub for getting uncensored information? How ironic!

Posted by: AG | Mar 7 2022 6:51 utc | 345

watcher (old friend),
regarding smallpox. all widespread reports of ‘smallpox’ symptomology occurred in the context of acute malnutrition/famine. that is your answer.
you have no reason-based answer as to how you know smallpox virus exists, because no one has ever seen it, handled it, and examined it’s genes. show me a paper that describes having faithfully done that. you can’t. nobody can.

Posted by: reante | Mar 7 2022 6:51 utc | 346

Maybe Assad could send all the Islamists in Syria’s jail as a gift to Zelinkski!
Posted by: Virgile | Mar 6 2022 19:56 utc | 130
I don’t think it will work, because they are not “blond”, do not have “blue eyes”, and not “relatively civilized”!

Posted by: AG | Mar 7 2022 6:52 utc | 347

@ Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 1:06 utc | 264
Thank you for the Putin quotes, very informative.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 7 2022 6:58 utc | 348

What is the West’s response going to be to Russia demanding some payments now in rubles?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 7 2022 5:56 utc | 337
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This is such a beautiful gambit. Softest currency wins.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 7 2022 7:00 utc | 349

reante | Mar 7 2022 6:51 utc | 342
You are anther of those maggots I mentioned earlier. Yanks along with Yank military dug small pox out of the permofrost mass graves in alaska. I posted and linked it some time back. grab your tin foil hat and talking points and fuck off.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 7:04 utc | 350

I don’t think the “Narrative vs Reality” cartoon is reflecting the truth.
The truth is that Ukraine is actually hurting the baby bears instead of just posturing.

Posted by: AG | Mar 7 2022 7:04 utc | 351

Regarding bioweapons and the labs in Ukraine the actual labs might be explained as performing infectious disease work and the agents isolated from endemic infections. This comes under the “dual-use” clause of the Bioweapons Convention. Working with biothreat agents is not a crime IF it is being done to develop vaccines, therapeutics, diagnostics or to conduct endemicity/epidemiological work. I will say working in that exact field doing that exact work in similar labs that the majority of the work performed will be perfectly legal. But, what caught my eye several years ago was a contract by DTRA to collect and analyze ONLY Russian DNA samples. That can only be for nefarious purposes. The holy grail for a bioweapon is to have a genetically designed organism that only infects/kills a specific group of people and that work was pursued in South Africa and Israel previously without success.
I will add that bioweapons in of themselves are pretty useless. They make a good terror weapon and can if used carelessly get out of control. Only a few are useful for a battlefield scenario. The worst ones are the ones that don’t kill but incapacitate large groups of people for long periods of time such as Brucellosis. This is incredibly easy to distribute, has a very low infectious dose, and treatment requires weeks of IV antibiotics. Worse, if animals are infected all must be tested and all herds culled. That is the real danger of biowarfare usually overlooked by people not used to thinking about these weapons. Killing people is a lot easier using other means but starving people by removing their food sources is much more evil. Very little notice is given regarding agricultural bioweapons which is where the real dangers lie and mostly due to our own regulations for control of animal diseases that require them (and the entire herds) to be killed once diagnosed.
So, my caution is that having these labs might be innocent if only used for dual-use purposes and doesn’t indicate anything at all unless strains and experiments were made/performed that are outside the rules for these labs. This will require years of examining isolates and lab notebooks if they are available and only by people who are experts in this. Unless this data is located and proven then these labs are a nothing burger. Maybe workers inside the labs can help if they are sympathetic but this may prove to be impossible.

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Mar 7 2022 7:05 utc | 352

Chemical weapons are bio weapons.
So who ever posted that Bio-chemical weapons is the best description is probably right.
Posted by: K | Mar 7 2022 1:24 utc | 269
Will you listen to yourself?
If chemical weapons are bioweapons then bombs are bioweapons too – because both kill biological organisms. And knives are bioweapons, too. Committing suicide is turning yourself into a bioweapon.
A ‘biological weapon’ is a weaponized biological organism. Just about every fool here (I used to be one myself (believes) in them simply because that’s what they’ve been told. Yet no one, including myself, can explain how an anaerobe can eat healthy tissues no matter how intensively they have been bred or genetically modified in a lab, and no one here can explain either how a ‘virus’ which is just a strand of amino acids can DO anything.
Y’all are under a nasty spell. A spell that has hypnotized you into thinking that you can’t think at all on this matter.
I said that if toxic metabolites from anaerobes were weaponized they should legitimately be called biochemical weapons because these metabolites are… biochemicals.
Got it?

Posted by: reante | Mar 7 2022 7:09 utc | 353

@digital dinosaur | Mar 7 2022 1:45 utc | 279

Re. hard evidence for bioweapons research.
It is called hard evidence because it is really really hard to find; deliberately so.
Not sure I can wait till it turns up – before the next outbreak of (**name your poison**)

Exactly. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 7 2022 7:15 utc | 354

uncle tungsten 294
“So what exactly is the USA+Westies doing with a few hundred more scattered throughout the world?”
They’re just drinking their own koolaid, boondoggling, and reinforcing the Germ Theory that helps keep modern man psychologically dependent on the System. Civilization is imperialist, and at root civilization wars against nature, therefore according to civilization, nature is out to get us. It’s whacko.

Posted by: reante | Mar 7 2022 7:22 utc | 355

Maybe workers inside the labs can help if they are sympathetic but this may prove to be impossible.
Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Mar 7 2022 7:05 utc | 346
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This points to a great oddity of the fascism in Ukraine. Typically fascism is fueled by exploiting the jealousies of an underclass, yet in Ukraine there is a large educated and professional class.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 7 2022 7:24 utc | 356

If I were to look deeply into these labs I would focus on work involving plant diseases such as wheat rust etc. Russia is a major wheat producer so very vulnerable to something like that. I will add that the people at DTRA get all excited thinking about Soviet Bioweapon strains and the belief (mostly because of Ken Alibekov’s insane and frankly unbelievable stories unless you work for the CIA) that they have all these weird and bizarre strains. They have been on an unending search for these mythical strains and fund ridiculous amounts of research looking for them. The host countries enjoy playing them along all the while getting never-ending funding and nice shiny new labs to perform the real work which is epidemiological surveillance which they have been doing for over 100 years now and still conduct this work as usual. Better if you can get some gullible country like the US to pay for it. They believe any fantastic story when it comes to Russians. It is comical to watch.

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Mar 7 2022 7:25 utc | 357

@ Posted by: A.L. | Mar 6 2022 20:35 utc | 141
Yes! to your well stated points.

Which is also needed for hydrogen tech, which is what I’m backing.

I consider my automobile to operate using hydrogen power already. The hydrogen is stored in molecular form as a liquid. To release the energy, the hydrogen bonds are broken and it is oxidized into water vapor. The liquid hydrocarbon storage technology is very energy dense and safe.
George Olah won a Nobel Prize with regard to technology relating to a methanol fuel economy. His work created means to efficiently convert natural gas to methanol and to more readily fix CO2 from air. Basically, he set foundations for greater energy US energy independence as well as for carbon-neutral fossil fuels.
https://www.methanol.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Olah-Essay-Beyond-Oil-Gas-Methanol.pdf
@ Posted by: too scents | Mar 6 2022 20:25 utc | 139

The energy density of batteries is insufficient for travel beyond short distances. There is no efficiency in hauling a half ton battery as compared to 50 liters (40kg) of fuel. It is silly on the face of it.

Yes. The Tesla Model S has a stated 1,200# / 544kg battery pack. The new Hummer EV has a battery pack that should weigh around 3,200# / 1451kg based on its capacity.

Posted by: R | Mar 7 2022 7:32 utc | 358

Posted by: IronForge | Mar 6 2022 20:13 utc | 134
I will never understand this obsession certain people have with gay people existing. At best they have an attitude of ‘okay fine, I’ll tolerate their existence just so long as they don’t draw my attention to the fact that they exist’, which is actually very cruel and frankly deeply bigoted.
If you think what they do is gross, okay, so what? Tough luck. I don’t particularly like to think about fat or old people, straight or otherwise, having sex. But I wouldn’t for a minute think about demanding they not draw attention to the fact that they exist. “I better never see you kissing in public!” Ridiculous.
As for the video, I’ve seen it making the rounds recently. What about it? I assume you don’t think Zelensky is literally gay and that this is proof? ‘Well it’s silly!’. Yeah, so you mean the lazy comedian succeeded with his dumb comedy sketch? The fact that they’re being exaggerated gay stereotypes is the entire joke.
I literally don’t know what negative thing anyone is supposed to take away from that video. All I can think is that I guess it’s catnip for the type of neanderthal that makes up Saker’s community (those guys are obsessed with sexual ‘deviance’ and ‘moral degeneration’).
I don’t much care about Zelensky, though I do have some sympathy for the fact that he seems to have come to power with a genuine desire to achieve peace, but was quickly brought to heel by the Nazis. But criticize him for actual reasons. If all you have is mockery, that isn’t a worthwhile discussion (especially when he was literally a comedian. He made it to be mocked).

Posted by: Ben | Mar 7 2022 7:32 utc | 359

reante | Mar 7 2022 7:09 utc | 347 “Y’all are under a nasty spell. A spell that has hypnotized you into thinking that you can’t think at all on this matter.
I said that if toxic metabolites from anaerobes were weaponized they should legitimately be called biochemical weapons because these metabolites are… biochemicals.
Got it?”
Yeah got it. You are just another maggot that wriggles and squirms to prove yankistan is just a benign force and means good too all.
You are just another dog turd littering b’s lawn.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 7:34 utc | 360

I will add that Alibek himself played the US government to the tune of many millions to fund his nutty work all of which ended in failure. He is a supreme con artist. The last I heard he was working in Ukraine so it is easy to connect the dots. If I am right then he once again played the US well and made many more millions in the process laughing all the way to the bank. Ukraine has been a gravy train for the US elite for a long time now.
The US is now run by complete idiots which should be very obvious by now if you look at the Coronavirus response and the insane Foreign Policy decisions. The Russians must be completely aghast facing such dreaded intellectual foes like Nuland, Blinken, BoJo, Biden, Pelosi, etc. It is a long and exhaustive list and it gets worse with the EU. I think in the history of mankind we have never seen such a perfect storm of rabid Russophobes with such low intelligence. The only good side to this is this entire debacle has exposed the collective west to be dangerous and agreement incapable and worse can act irrationally against any country they don’t like. I believe a large part of the world is watching this in horror thinking they might be next.

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Mar 7 2022 7:35 utc | 361

Why the Ukraine needs de-Nazification (Vzglyad, Sergey Mirkin, March 3, 2022 — in Russian)

One of the goals of the military operation in the Ukraine is de-Nazification. What is it?
De-Nazification is a process that took place in Germany and Austria after World War II in order to remove elements of Nazi ideology from all spheres of people’s life. Nazi legal norms were removed from law; art, philosophy was freed from Nazi dogmas. The crimes of the Nazis were made public. Members of the NSDAP and the SS who committed crimes against humanity, criminals were tried and punished. But the main goal of de-Nazification is to eradicate the Nazi ideology from the worldview and attitude of people so that they understand the perniciousness of these ideas.
Does today’s Ukraine need these measures? The main argument of those who believe that there is no Nazism in the Ukraine is that President Vladimir Zelenskiy is a Jew. So, talk about Nazism is not worth a damn. However, after the 2014 coup d’etat, the Ukraine turned into a country of metamorphoses. And it was Zelenskiy who became one of the main conductors of a policy that carries elements of the glorification of Nazism and the restriction of people’s rights on ethnic grounds.
Zelenskiy demonstrated his attitude towards Nazism in 2019, when in Mariupol he attended an event held by militants of the Azov Regiment and stood next to their coat of arms, “wolf hook” (wolfsangel). This is one of the symbols much loved by neo-Nazis. If Zelenskiy really hated this ideology, he would never allow himself to stand next to the “wolf hook”. And he would not have been forced to do this by any political and opportunistic benefits.
It was Zelenskiy who signed the law “On the Indigenous Peoples of the Ukraine”, which did not recognize as such the Jews, Hungarians, Bulgarians, whose communities had lived on the territory of modern Ukraine for thousands of years. The Russians also did not receive this status, but were declared a national minority. Only the Crimean Tatars, Karaites and Krymchaks were recognized as indigenous peoples. And so these communities were granted the rights to cultural development (and, therefore, to the preservation of self-identity) much more than Russians or Hungarians. And this despite the fact that most representatives of ethnic groups recognized as indigenous live in Crimea on the territory of Russia.
Of course, the adoption of this law can be perceived as an element of the political show that the Ze team loves so much. But if you think about it, the law divides people into classes. It turns out that there is the first class—Ukrainians, the titular nation. There is the second class—indigenous peoples. And there is the third class—national minorities, including Russians. Doesn’t this classification of ethnic groups remind you of anything? Did the ashes of relatives burned in Buchenwald not beat against Zelenskiy’s heart? [Reference to Charles De Coster’s The Legend of Ulenspiegel. — S]
Add to this the fact that in the Ukraine over the past eight years a total de-Russification was being carried out. The Russian language was forced out of all spheres of life, even consumer services. And what is depriving people of the right to use their native language in all areas except at home, if not Nazism? Of course, the process of de-Russification began in the Ukraine before Zelenskiy, back in the 90s, but it was during his rule that it reached its climax.
Another argument of those who believe that there is no Nazism in the Ukraine is that both Nazism and communism are prohibited in the country, and this is spelled out in the law “On the Condemnation of the Communist and National Socialist Totalitarian Regimes in Ukraine and the Ban on Their Symbols”. But if you analyze the law, it becomes clear that it is aimed at the decommunization of the Ukraine, but the Nazi ideology is mentioned for the sake of appearances. The law prohibits the anthems of the USSR, the RSFSR, the Ukrainian SSR, other union and autonomous Soviet republics or their fragments, but does not prohibit the anthems of Nazi Germany and the Nazi Party (“Horst Wessel Song”).
This document prohibits all Soviet symbols, and they are listed in great detail. But what are the Nazi symbols is not defined. The symbols of the countries of the socialist camp are prohibited, while the symbols of the satellites of the Third Reich are not. Ukrainian historian Yuriy Latish draws the right conclusion: there are all sorts of concessions to Nazism in the law. I’m purposefully referencing a Ukrainian author so that he cannot be suspected of being biased.
And that’s not to mention law enforcement. In fact, in the Ukraine, the rehabilitation and glorification of Nazi criminals was in full swing. Dozens of people involved in the mass killing of the civilian population were honored at the state level. The most famous cases—in 2018 in Lvov there was an exhibition in honor of the SS Division “Galicia”, and among the children of the region a competition was held for the best drawing on this topic. And everything took place under the auspices of the regional state administration. And in Ternopol in 2021, a sports stadium was named after SS Hauptmann Roman Shukhevych. Not to mention Stepan Bandera Avenue in Kiev—which used to be called Moscow Avenue. And such actions have never been stopped by the Ukrainian authorities, which means they have been approved.
But of course, the most obvious demonstration that the Maidan regime is saturated with Nazism is the presence of neo-Nazi units in official Ukrainian structures. The most famous of them is the Azov Battalion, which has a lot of neo-Nazis. This was not denied by some Ukrainian officials either. Even American congressmen recognized Azov as neo-Nazi and demanded that the U.S. authorities consider it a terrorist organization. And in the Ukraine, there are many units with neo-Nazi ideology, for example, various fragments of the Right Sector, or the Donbass Battalion, or the Aidar Battalion, notorious for its cruelty, which was formally disbanded and renamed, but retained its basis. And his commander Maksim Marchenko—actually, by all accounts, a war criminal—has just been appointed by Zelenskiy as the head of the military-civilian administration of the Odessa region.
Finally, let’s ask ourselves the question of who in the 20th century beat people to death, burned them alive in order to intimidate the population. This was done by the Wehrmacht and the SS. And in the 21st century, supporters of the Maidan, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard of Ukraine are doing this.
During Maidan, people who were against it were beaten to death. In Odessa, adherents of Maidan burned people alive in the Trade Unions House. For eight years, the Ukrainian army shelled the cities of Donbass in order to prevent people from living a normal life. It was an act of intimidation and terror.
And now the Ukrainian military understands that they will soon be expelled from Donbass. So they are off the chain. They are shelling Donetsk, Gorlovka, Dokuchaevsk from all guns. It does not make any military sense, just revenge on the inhabitants. The behavior of the Ukrainian military is reminiscent of the habits of the German Nazis when they left the Donbass. Field Marshal Erich von Manstein issued a secret directive “On the evacuation, destruction and removal of property”, where he set the troops the task of completely devastating the abandoned areas.
The directive stated that “the entire Donets Basin east of the Turtle position (the area west of Slavyansk, Konstantinovka, where the German troops retreated) should be evacuated economically and completely destroyed…” And now the Ukrainian soldiers probably want to produce the maximum amount of destruction before they go. So the answer is yes, the Ukraine is sick with Nazism and needs de-Nazification.

Posted by: S | Mar 7 2022 7:39 utc | 362

Its ground hog day for Futures again ==> https://finviz.com/futures.ashx

Posted by: too scents | Mar 7 2022 7:41 utc | 363

I do question all this talk of a long term insurgency and the thousands of keyboard warriors that have gone to Ukraine.
Insurgencies work when people can blend into the local population and are fully supported by them.
These clowns can’t speak the language and have no means to support themselves – how will they eat etc for 3 months?
A significant number of locals in the East of country support Russia and will inform them of the mercenary presence the moment they are spotted.
These idiots have a very short life expectancy!

Posted by: Merandor | Mar 7 2022 7:54 utc | 364

@Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 4:59 utc | 326

26 million Russians died due to nazi Germany. Now its the US backing nazi’s in a shithole country and once again Russians are dying. I don’t have any time for cksuckers who come on and say both sides are lying. Nor clowns that want to endorse propaganda on how bad the Russian military is.

This is key. Thank you for spelling it out. It isn’t very complicated.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 7 2022 7:56 utc | 365

@ Posted by: R | Mar 7 2022 7:32 utc | 352
Additionally, in the context of EV discussion and regarding oil and gas, just because humans may choose to leave petroleum in the ground doesn’t mean it will stay in the ground. In addition to oil seeps and such, the carbon cycle is geologic / oceanic as well as atmospheric.
The combustion of oil and gas deposits when coinciding with large igneous province formation is associated with global mass extinction events.
http://www.largeigneousprovinces.org/sites/default/files2/Ernst%20and%20Youbi%202017%20PPP.PDF
https://sci-hub.se/10.1130/2014.2505(02)
A contrarian and perhaps superficial perspective might include that the safest action is to reduce mass extinction risk by removing excess petroleum from geologic formations.

Posted by: R | Mar 7 2022 7:59 utc | 366

Ben | Mar 7 2022 7:32 utc | 353 “I will never understand this obsession certain people have with gay people existing.”
It is mostly the abramatic cultures who do. US however has weaponized faggotry. Gay marriage and whatever else. Destruction of cultures.
I got on the piss at my daughters engagement party and awake to find a rainbow flag trying to undo my jeans. I was a bit cranky and stood up. It wasn’t much of a sight seeing gay pride squirming on the floor with its hands over its head in its jocks crying don’t hurt me.
Fuck the US and its weapons of mass cultural destruction.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 8:11 utc | 367

Why does the Western press support the kidnappers rather than the hostages? They are complicit in a war crime.
Why would the Russians want the Ukrainians to have hostages? What motivation does Russia have for breaking the cease fire?
What the press is reporting doesn’t make any sense.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 7 2022 8:19 utc | 368

Merandor @ comment 358
I read a great book “A Train to Potevka – An American Spy in Russia” by Mike Ramsdell discussing how he was sent to a remote village in Siberia without food or water to live in a tiny house in Russia. The local Russians eventually felt sorry for him and gave him some food. Everyone in the area knew who and what he was. He didn’t even have a clue what his mission really was and spoke poor Russian. I think this true story exemplifies the US and in particular the CIA in a nutshell. It explains a lot about US Foreign Policy.

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Mar 7 2022 8:28 utc | 369

Old Microbiologist #351

They believe any fantastic story when it comes to Russians. It is comical to watch.

Thank you for the sage advice. Plus more strange tales from a zany world. Stay well and happy.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 8:29 utc | 370

Well come on, if anyone can answer some questions;
Is it true that Medvedev said that processor chips need a metal that Russia owns 90% of?
Is Pepe or is anyone sure that Zé is in Poland? his competitor Kiva in .2019 said he was there at the American embassy in Turkey snorting cocaine is that true?
German tanks, British fighters, American missile launchers are coming. Will Ukraine Become a Gray Zone in a NATO vs Allies Combat?
American diplomats were seen landing in Caracas and Iran is the empire of lies already moving to play harder??
Thank you my friends!! Hugs from Brazil!!

Posted by: Oisin | Mar 7 2022 8:33 utc | 371

Got it?
Posted by: reante | Mar 7 2022 7:09 utc | 347
Well you don’t have to be so condescending about it. I do happen to think that bombs are a bio weapon. No, not knives since they can’t be WMD’s.
All I was trying to say is that plenty of very bad things can be concocted in so called bio labs that don’t technically have to be “bio-chemicals”. it’s called misdirection. “Gain of function” what other ways might there be to understand this terminology than we are told?
I do agree with you that healthy cells usually can repel attacks from unfriendly organisms. But very few people are truly healthy these days, and some populations are very unhealthy, hence your argument does not apply to a good portion of the planet.
I have zero knowledge about weaponised pathogens, so I cannot engage in any useful dialogue with you on this topic, I am open minded that it can be done since it seems to have happened already, but that’s all I can say about it.
You said: ” no one, including myself, can explain how an anaerobe can eat healthy tissues no matter how intensively they have been bred or genetically modified in a lab, and no one here can explain either how a ‘virus’ which is just a strand of amino acids can DO anything. you or anybody else can’t prove that anaerobic cells can” doesn’t mean it can’t happen.
Clearly you also can’t prove that they can’t. right? Perhaps the mechanism is not yet understood by us.
But I digress since I there are all manner of things that most of us will never know or understand and it so happens that science is not the only way of understanding or explaining how things work.
I happened to be following a few bloggers in China when the virus first happened in Wuhan. So I saw it all happen online at least in real time. The Chinese government were not mucking about with it, so their highly educated STEM grads definitely thought it could be a bioweapon and they were not going to take chances. The Chinese are still calling it a virus, who knows what they really think or know? I don’t blame them for playing along given the hostile environment of the West. But one thing is for sure there is a lot more to the story.
it seems to me that if old fashioned nasty toxins and chemicals give the same or similar effect to having been “infected”, then why re-invent the wheel? The early Nazis did all the hard work and their descendants at Monsanto and Bayer etc have been producing the most toxic chemicals ever since.
For example since WW1 many studies have been done on the potential of Mustard Gas to effect the genetics of offspring generations later.
if this is true, why not just work on the methods of getting said known toxins spread around while only harming the desired population. Clearly Agent Orange was a bit too much of a blunt instrument so what then?
Vaccines? Drones with spray cans attached?
Also, many toxins are known to reduce natural immunity, and are responsible for a huge variety of disease symptoms. so with reduced immunity you wouldn’t necessarily need to modify a pathogen , you would just need to greatly reduce the general immunity of the population and potentially harm the genes then same pathogen could be a lot more destructive. But you’d have to figure out a way to use it that doesn’t wipe out the entire population. Hence the bio labs testing on specific racial genetic material? I don’t know if we are all genetically different enough for that to be possible but I guess Nazis believe we are.
maybe this is not a reasonable way to look at it. I don’t know.
I often think of that scene in Raiders of the Lost Arc, the quintessential expose of all things Nazi 🙂 when the Moroccan guy is doing fancy twirls with his whip, Indiana Jones just pulls out his pistol and shoots him dead. Cracks me up every time.
I think Russia just took a leaf out of Indiana’s playbook.
Anyway, I’m more right brained so its pointless to tell me I’m lacking in an ability to “think” the way you do LOL I appreciate many of the things you say, you are a bit theatrical and know it all, but you bring up interesting takes on things.

Posted by: K | Mar 7 2022 8:39 utc | 372

So who in the BBC, MSNBC, etc end up with the title of Comical Ali 2.0 after the dust settles, or is it going to be taken up by zelensky himself??!!

Posted by: Anon | Mar 7 2022 8:47 utc | 373

@Ben | Mar 7 2022 7:32 utc | 353
People can do whatever they like in their lives as long as they don’t push it on others.
The point regarding the Zelensky video is to present the clown. It is a paid puppet, not a politician.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 7 2022 8:48 utc | 374

On humanitarian corridors and the evacuation of civilians.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1678755/russia-says-it-will-open-humanitarian-corridors-to-ukrainian-cities-today

…
The corridors were to be opened at 10am Moscow time (0700 GMT) from the capital Kyiv as well as the cities of Kharkiv, Mariupol and Sumy and are being set up at the personal request of French President Emmanuel Macron, the ministry said.
… adding it would use drones to monitor the evacuation.
“Attempts by the Ukrainian side to deceive Russia and the whole civilised world … are useless this time,” the ministry said.
…

Posted by: too scents | Mar 7 2022 9:01 utc | 375

Some titles:
$125 Oil Could Push The U.S. Into A Recession
25 February 2022
Russian forces launched their long-feared attack on Ukraine, and the crisis keeps getting worse at every turn….
WTI $93, Brent $95
Oil Prices Break $130 As EU And U.S. Allies Consider Ban On Russian Crude
By Michael Kern – Mar 06, 2022, 6:57 PM CST
WTI $124, Brent $127 [the title above refers to a commodity exchange peak,
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Traders are in unknown land. What moderates prices, so far, is an anticipation that Western governments, including USA, will shy away from steps resulting in recession. You can engage in quantitative easing etc., but worldwide cuts in energy supplies reduces supplies of many key goods, and who knows how far these cuts can reach. Injecting USDs and Euros into circulation can stimulate demand, but that is not inflationary if it causes a matching increase of goods, so I do not see how it can help with recession driven by cuts in supplies.
Politicians are in unknown land. A recession can be OK if this is not their fault. Media control/domination can “establish” who is at fault. Provoking the recession will be the “proof” of the necessary strength and resolve. This seems feasible if rationality in the population is eliminated. How far can you go in this direction?
The highest case of supply destruction I can conceive is Russia banding with Iran, as USA still does not want to guarantee real relief from sanctions to Iran. Combined efforts can close Straight of Hormuz to shipments to countries that participate in sanctions. This scenario is not fanciful anymore.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 7 2022 9:07 utc | 376

Posted by: blues | Mar 7 2022 4:25 utc | 323
Great comment, thanks!

Posted by: Armageddon | Mar 7 2022 9:08 utc | 377

Poland Still Isn’t Interested In Transferring Its MiG-29s To Ukraine
The U.S. is actively pushing for the transfer but Poland still says it won’t give its MiG-29s to Ukraine.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44608/poland-still-isnt-interested-in-transferring-its-mig-29s-to-ukraine
As I posted over at Martyanov, I’m confused by the Polish Minister of Defense’s answer. He said Poland will not supply jets to Ukraine or host them on its airfields. Then where are the Ukrainian jets doing “fly-bys” in Ukraine coming from? Russia shot down a couple lately. Are there any Ukrainian airfields still in operation? I would have expected not. Perhaps that’s one reason to hit that airport Russia hit yesterday – perhaps the Ukrainians are using civilian airfields not yet destroyed by Russia? It’s very strange – or he was simply lying.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 9:08 utc | 378

@K | Mar 7 2022 8:39 utc | 366

it seems to me that if old fashioned nasty toxins and chemicals give the same or similar effect to having been “infected”, then why re-invent the wheel? The early Nazis did all the hard work and their descendants at Monsanto and Bayer etc have been producing the most toxic chemicals ever since.
For example since WW1 many studies have been done on the potential of Mustard Gas to effect the genetics of offspring generations later.

This song was written more than 40 years ago:
Porton Down – Peter Hammill
Won’t hear a sound at Porton Down,
The clear liquids keep their silence,
Buried underground at Porton Down
The fast form of the final violence.
Quite right to be worried about the proliferation
Of nuclear bombs and power stations,
But there’s a deterrent that’s going to
Unearth us yet…
Hurry on round about Porton Down,
A quick glimpse of the future warfare
Hidden under ground at Porton Down;
Far too frightening to utter what you saw there.
They got bacteria to drop us where we stand,
They got diseases still unknown to man,
They got the virus and a microgram’s enough
To do in a continent.
The ultimate madness,
Just one shattered test-tube to wipe out the world.
It begins with the mustard gas,
It proceeds to Hiroshima.
The culture moves on –
Now it’s bacterial, truly insane.
Porton Down waits to fever the brain.
Won’t hear a sound at Porton Down,
The clear liquids keep their silence
Buried underground at Porton Down,
The fast form of the final violence.
Hurry on round about Porton Down
A quick glimpse of the future warfare,
Hidden underground at Porton Down,
Far too frightening to say what you saw there.
No sound at Porton Down,
From Porton Down,
After Porton Down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy1w–obS8k

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 7 2022 9:10 utc | 379

@Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 4:59 utc | 326
26 million Russians died due to nazi Germany. Now its the US backing nazi’s in a shithole country and once again Russians are dying. I don’t have any time for cksuckers who come on and say both sides are lying. Nor clowns that want to endorse propaganda on how bad the Russian military is.
Great comment, thanks!
But please replace the fist mention of Russians by Soviet citizens.

Posted by: Armageddon | Mar 7 2022 9:18 utc | 380

Brent is US$ 126 and gasoline US$ 3740 per gallon this morning.
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/gasoline
If the price for oil and gasoline dont go down, Germany’s car manufacturers are fucked. Wolfsburg, Hanover, and Brunswick, all of the south of Lower Saxony, depend on VW and the samll parts suppliers that feed off of VW. How will VW keep going in its home region with these prices? Germany’s heating relies heavily on gasoline. Renters who just make it through each month cant pay more for heating while prices for other daily necessities, eg bread, will skyrocket. I can see social conflicts coming to Germany that everyone here only knows from history classes at school (late 1920ies and early 1930ies).
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/gasoline

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 7 2022 9:25 utc | 381

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Mar 7 2022 7:05 utc | 346
as we have seen over the past couple of years, bioweapons are part of psychological warfare

Posted by: Jonathan W | Mar 7 2022 9:29 utc | 382

@Arne Hartmann | Mar 7 2022 9:25 utc | 375
Think you will find it is more like:
“Brent is … and gasoline US$ [3.74] per gallon this morning.”

Posted by: imo | Mar 7 2022 9:31 utc | 383

Posted by: imo | Mar 7 2022 9:31 utc | 377
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$4.065 ==> https://gasprices.aaa.com/

Posted by: too scents | Mar 7 2022 9:34 utc | 384

S #356

So the answer is yes, the Ukraine is sick with Nazism and needs de-Nazification.

Thank you S, that was an excellent read. All the more power to arm of the de-nazification team in Ukraine and throughout the world.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 9:34 utc | 385

Hidari | Mar 6 2022 16:46 utc | 60
“As Mark Ames pointed out elsewhere, there seems to be an almost mystical longing for death amongst the Western intelligentsia. It’s as if they are bored with their nothing lives, their tedious ‘research’, hours spent in front of the laptop writing rubbish for nobody. Just blow it all up, kill a couple of billion people, see what happens. Please be aware that they are all perfectly aware that a so-called ‘no fly zone’ will result in the deaths of billions of people. They want that to happen.
As almost everyone has pointed out, the whole atmosphere is incredibly similar to the Summer of 1914.”

That’s a significant part of it, an extension of the bottom-up aspect of the mass insanity that broke out in 2020 which struck me right away as very similar to the mass enthusiasm that broke out in cities all over Europe in August 1914.
From the start it was clear that a big part of the reason both the masses and such huge majorities of intellectuals, including former dissidents and opponents of empire, willingly believed the TV that there was a “pandemic” and were willing and eager to submit to the most extreme and absurd dictates was the sense of embarking upon a great collective adventure.
When everyone’s lives had reached such rock bottom of futility and boredom combined with mounting fear-itself out of the vague sense of accelerating socioeconomic, cultural, biological and ecological decline, it came as a great release to delude themselves they were living through the second coming of the Black Death but that this time they were going to swallow up death in victory by submitting to quasi-military mobilization under the command of generals like Fauci and general staffs like the cadres of the media, the medical-industrial complex and the “vaccine” manufacturers.
With this great escalation of the Russophobic advent we have this militarized mass insanity-out-of-decadence escalated to the state of a true war hysteria promising total destruction and therefore total liberation from all stress, fear, and futility.
If submitting to lockdowns and face diapers and living in fear of the very physical presence of one’s fellow man was all a pantomime of death, today everyone goes berserk in ecstasy over the imminence of literal mass death.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 7 2022 9:36 utc | 386

@346 Old Microbiologist | Mar 7 2022 7:05 utc
Indeed.
As a matter of fact, I distinctly remember it was the Israelis who strongly recommended against the US continuing research into population specific virals.
They described it as both virtually impossible and stupid.

Posted by: S.O. | Mar 7 2022 9:42 utc | 387

europe’s gas prices are gonna get so high they won’t be able to function anymore. wwiii prolly coming soon. let’s keep the nuclear strikes limited, folks.

Posted by: line islands | Mar 7 2022 9:50 utc | 389

Given that this is basically May/June 1914 right now, it occurs to me that it will only take one well time assassination to blow this whole thing right open. If Zelensky makes even the slightest move towards peace with Russia, one of his Nazi entourage will blow his brains out and claim it was ‘the Russians’. From that point onwards, calls for a ‘no’ Fly Zone will become overwhelming. It’s never made entirely clearly what nationality the pilots will be for this invasion of the Ukraine (as will be what actually happens, the phrase ‘no fly zone’ being used, as with Libya, as verbal camouflage for invasion and regime change). But it’s likely that at least some of them may/might be American.
There are a number of templates here. One is South Vietnam when Kennedy decided that the leadership of the South Vietnamese was too keen to make peace with the North, staged a coup d’etat, and overthrew the government to replace it with a ‘hard line’ one. Zelensky’s position is increasingly unstable: he might be assassinated, he might be overthrown. In any case, if either of these events happens, an explicitly Nazi right wing ‘nationalist’ regime will come to power and its key aim will be an American invasion (i.e. ‘no’ fly zone). Poland and other Eastern European countries are already run by the hard right, and they won’t have any problems now getting involved.
Regardless of this, if Putin doesn’t wrap this up within a month, the calls for an American invasion (AKA ‘no’ fly zone) will become louder and louder and louder, and at some point, some causus belli or false flag operation will take place to provide the pretext for this (the assassination of Zelinsky or someone similar, a ‘Srebrenica’ style fake massacre etc.).
The Americans get involved, Russian pilots start to die, the war spills out over the borders (CF Nixon’s ‘secret’ invasion of Cambodia and Laos) and pretty soon to ‘disrupt supply lines’ American planes are bombing Russian territory. Putin threatens war unless this stops, the Americans deny all knowledge, war is declared, fighting breaks out, this soon turns nuclear, the end of the world.
In other words, if this war isn’t over by May I think it’s quite likely the world will be over by Christmas.

Posted by: Hidari | Mar 7 2022 10:00 utc | 390

About bioweapons.
USA used bioweapons during the Korean war.
One country does not need for scientific research 11 (or 13) bio-laboratories.
If for research purpose only, why destroy documents?
Why were USA (and not Ukraine) keeping these documents?
For research, one does not need “stocks” of pathogens in several laboratories.

Posted by: Armageddon | Mar 7 2022 10:09 utc | 391

Better we all die than Ukraine exists as a neutral country, I guess.

Posted by: WJ | Mar 7 2022 10:10 utc | 392

CF also Syria. It seems quite likely that over the next few weeks there will be a ‘false flag’ either a ‘massacre’ (like Srebrenica) or a ‘chemical’ or ‘biological’ attack, like the ones that (allegedly) the Syrians carried out while defending their country from the Western invasion. Again, this will be used to justify a NATO (i.e. American) invasion of the Ukraine, the overthrow of the Zelensky regime, and its replacement with a hard right, ethnonationalist replacement, wholly controlled and run by the Americans (sorry, ‘Nato’). From that point on, we will be months, or possibly weeks from nuclear war.

Posted by: Hidari | Mar 7 2022 10:12 utc | 393

Old Microbiologist @ 346
“The holy grail is a genetically designed organism that only infects/kills a specific group of people.”
Will have to believe you were a military microbiologist. What you are describing is a racist virus. The military always wanted a racist virus. And was unable to hear when told there was and could not be such a thing.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 7 2022 10:12 utc | 394

S.O. | Mar 7 2022 9:42 utc | 381
Yeah, the realization that Israelis basically can’t be genetically distinguished from Palestinians must’ve shown them how ludicrous such endeavours are. Besides, they’ve always collaborated with Apartheid S. Africa, which had been researching viruses targetting Black population for a long time, so they should know if this is a dead-end.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Mar 7 2022 10:17 utc | 395

Allegedly say they were shelled by the Ukrainian (presumably Azov battalion) while fleeing Mariupol: https://t.me/intelslava/21576 Warning this is distressing – a man and his wife try and drive out of Mariupol along the escape corridor agreed to by the Russian and Ukrainian negotiators in Belarus for the city of Mariupol. They stop as they see other cars stopped with doors open and bodies about. This is why as the official Russian spokeswoman said – only 17 people so far have escaped Mariupol, the man makes it but his wife didn’t: https://t.me/intelslava/21396 Murdered by the Azov battalion. Captured member of a Nazi battalion, don’t know if it is Azov or one of the others: https://t.me/intelslava/21610

Posted by: PJB | Mar 7 2022 10:29 utc | 396

Slightly OT, but he did make direct statements about China’s position on the Ukraine conflict and Russia.
Chinese FM Wang Yi gave his annual press conference today. It is quite long ==> https://youtu.be/gmk7yGWoOoM
India’s The Hindu newspaper summarized it thusly:

China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi says U.S. wants ‘Indo-Pacific NATO’
China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi on Monday accused the United States of trying to build an “Indo-Pacific NATO” using the Quad and its allies, and said “some forces” were seeking to “stoke tensions” between China and India as well as “sow discord” between China and Russia.
Mr. Wang, in his annual press conference along the sidelines of China’s National People’s Congress (NPC) or Parliament in Beijing, also described China-Russia relations as “one of the most crucial bilateral relations in the world” and as being “rock solid”.
Underlining China’s position on the Ukraine crisis that while sovereignty needed to be respected, so did the legitimate security concerns of Russia, Mr. Wang declined to term Russia’s attack “an invasion” when asked by a reporter.
… continues

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/chinas-foreign-minister-wang-yi-says-us-wants-indo-pacific-nato/article65201008.ece

Posted by: too scents | Mar 7 2022 10:34 utc | 397

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Mar 7 2022 10:17 utc | 389

Yeah, the realization that Israelis basically can’t be genetically distinguished from Palestinians

Only if you’re half blind and tone deaf.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 7 2022 10:40 utc | 398

All it takes is for the US to ‘recognise’ Taiwan as an ‘independent state’ and push for its entry into the UN as a ‘sovereign state’ and the Chinese will be forced to take action. This will result in an American slow moving invasion of Taiwan (or ‘support’ as it will be known in the West) which will again result in WW3. And the Biden regime will do this if it becomes necessary to ensure US hegemony, i.e. if its slow moving invasion of the Ukraine goes badly.

Posted by: Hidari | Mar 7 2022 10:44 utc | 399

@302
“Military aerodrome in Ukraine’s Vinnitsa destroyed by Russian high-precision weapons.
This was a signal to Poland…”
i think vinnitsa will be the convergence point of the north and south pincers kettling eastern ukraine. the signal to poland was nothing so oblique: russia said it would bomb any outside powers’ airfields ukraine used.

Posted by: line islands | Mar 7 2022 10:48 utc | 400