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March 6, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-22
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@Posted by: Greg Galloway | Mar 6 2022 22:15 utc | 183 uncle tungsten @192– @Posted by: reante | Mar 6 2022 22:48 utc | 199 Peter AU1 #124
Given the ‘ethics’ on display from the USA, they will bypass Australia and purchase all the oil needed from East Timor. That will save then any need to address ‘issues’ with Venezuela. The US would not give a sh!t transporting oil from halfway across the planet. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 6 2022 23:00 utc | 204 @Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 6 2022 22:56 utc | 202 Posted by: Activist Potato | Mar 6 2022 19:55 utc | 129
Lagavulin! Mmmm. Make mine a double please. There is much dross to filter. Posted by: Sushi | Mar 6 2022 23:09 utc | 206 Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 6 2022 22:56 utc | 202 Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Mar 6 2022 23:10 utc | 207 Posted by: Arioch | Mar 6 2022 21:14 utc | 158 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 23:11 utc | 208 Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Mar 6 2022 16:25 utc | 52 Posted by: ted001 | Mar 6 2022 23:14 utc | 209 bevin #195
Thank you and even back in the time of the rise of Marx and Engels works. I am sure a little digging will reveal Henry Ford enthusiastically supporting the ‘German miracle’ economics advocated by Adolf Hitler and his forebears in the 1930’s. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 6 2022 23:18 utc | 210 Posted by: Olivier | Mar 6 2022 21:26 utc | 161 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 23:19 utc | 211 Richard Steven Hack and Arioch Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 6 2022 23:20 utc | 212 Posted by: watcher | Mar 6 2022 21:30 utc | 163 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 23:22 utc | 213 karlof1 #202
Thank you and I support your contention – the tide has turned and the Canutes are wandering around on the beach shouting at the waters to go away and get back to where they came from and and and Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 6 2022 23:24 utc | 214 Circe @ 121 Posted by: circumspect | Mar 6 2022 23:28 utc | 215 Posted by: Political Atheist | Mar 6 2022 21:37 utc | 165 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 23:31 utc | 216 Posted by: Luke | Mar 6 2022 19:02 utc | 103 Posted by: Jonathan W | Mar 6 2022 23:32 utc | 217 Uh oh. Posted by: BadNews | Mar 6 2022 23:36 utc | 218 Regarding the bioweapons conversation. Posted by: reante | Mar 6 2022 23:37 utc | 219 Did I say pandemic? Posted by: reante | Mar 6 2022 23:39 utc | 220 Uh oh. Posted by: BadNews | Mar 6 2022 23:39 utc | 221 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 6 2022 22:11 utc | 180 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 23:39 utc | 222 Those documents were not referenced by RuMoD yet, for the best of my knowlegde. Posted by: Olivier | Mar 6 2022 23:42 utc | 223 Uh oh. Posted by: BadNews | Mar 6 2022 23:44 utc | 224 Richard Steven Hack, welcome back to the bar. You were missed. Posted by: RJPJR | Mar 6 2022 23:46 utc | 225 “In Telegram trying to access https://t.me/swentr, and I get “This channel can’t be displayed because it violated local laws.”” Posted by: ian | Mar 6 2022 23:46 utc | 226 Olivier | Mar 6 2022 23:42 utc | 223 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 6 2022 23:46 utc | 227 Posted by: Arioch | Mar 6 2022 22:11 utc | 181 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 23:47 utc | 228 Biological weapons do not actually exist. Posted by: Olivier | Mar 6 2022 23:49 utc | 229 Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 23:39 utc | 222 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 6 2022 23:50 utc | 230 I apologize, I posted this in a stale thread a few seconds ago, but meant for it here… Posted by: Simplicius | Mar 6 2022 23:52 utc | 231 Posted by: Abe | Mar 6 2022 22:47 utc | 197 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 23:54 utc | 232 The only reason to nuke Ukraine- again (Chernobyl) would be to poison the largest black earth soil in the world. Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 6 2022 23:56 utc | 233 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 6 2022 23:20 utc | 212 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 23:58 utc | 234 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 6 2022 23:00 utc | 204 Posted by: ted001 | Mar 6 2022 23:59 utc | 235 Russia to view provision of military airfields to Kiev as involvement in conflict
Well, there it is – an indirect Russian threat to attack Polish airfields if they continue to support Ukraine. My guess is Poland will now intern those Ukrainian jets as Iran did the Iraqi jets that fled there in 1991 IIRC. If they think NATO can save them, they’re in for a world of hurt. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 0:07 utc | 236 I think there will be more to come on this. Posted by: Arioch | Mar 7 2022 0:14 utc | 237 I greatly enjoy following A.Martynov, but find he is probably a bit overly optimistic about Russian capabilities. Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 7 2022 0:14 utc | 238 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 6 2022 22:17 utc | 185 Posted by: watcher | Mar 7 2022 0:16 utc | 239 Uh oh. Posted by: BadNews | Mar 7 2022 0:18 utc | 240 @Les7 #149 Posted by: Billb | Mar 7 2022 0:18 utc | 241 @ karlof1 | Mar 6 2022 22:56 utc | 202…. what kind of time frame are you looking at for these speculative dimensions to come to fruition? thanks… Posted by: james | Mar 7 2022 0:18 utc | 242 Posted by: RJPJR | Mar 6 2022 23:46 utc | 225 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 0:19 utc | 243 Posted by: reante | Mar 6 2022 23:37 utc | 219 Posted by: watcher | Mar 7 2022 0:23 utc | 244 Posted by Watcher 163 Posted by: Paul | Mar 7 2022 0:23 utc | 245 If you read or watch corporate media you learn two things: Posted by: WJ | Mar 7 2022 0:25 utc | 246 @235 The ever-resourceful Blinken has come up with a plan to get those Polish jets working in Ukraine. Ukrainian pilots may already be lining up to fly used Polish MIGs against experienced Russian pilots. It will be a case of learning on the job. Posted by: dh | Mar 7 2022 0:29 utc | 247 NATO LAPTOP IMAGES Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 0:30 utc | 248 Posted by: A.L. | Mar 6 2022 20:57 utc | 152
There is no need for the tankers to sail the “open seas.” Posted by: Sushi | Mar 7 2022 0:32 utc | 249 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 6 2022 23:50 utc | 230
Until we see future analyses, this statement doesn’t prove a biowarfare program. It proves a bioresearch program on dangerous pathogens. That’s it. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 0:33 utc | 250 dh #246 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 0:34 utc | 251 @William Gruff | Mar 6 2022 15:49 utc | 42 Posted by: cirsium | Mar 7 2022 0:36 utc | 252 Sushi #248
Thank you and that reminds me of those fabulous Connecticut class US submarines. Did that damaged one get its nose job completed? or are they waiting on some ideal metals from Russia? Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 0:39 utc | 253 uncle tungsten@210 Posted by: bevin | Mar 7 2022 0:42 utc | 254 WJ | Mar 7 2022 0:25 utc | 245 Posted by: Keith McClary | Mar 7 2022 0:50 utc | 255 Posted by: Simplicius | Mar 6 2022 23:52 utc | 231
https://tass.com/politics/1417839 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 0:52 utc | 256 I have just accessed kremlin.ru. though very slow loading The president of Russia website. Found the transcript of ‘Meeting with representatives of the flight crew of Russian airlines’
http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67913 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 0:53 utc | 257 RSH #249
It was first identified/alarmed in Wuhan by world leading Chinese epidemiologists. After three prior biological weapon attacks, the Chinese government and scientific network was fully informed and prepared. They even held a preliminary conference before the Military Games to ensure the monitoring system was in peak preparedness. It worked just fine as they sprung the emergence within an amazing short timespan. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 0:53 utc | 258 Another section from the same answer.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 0:56 utc | 259 I am not sure that Russia will not take Lvov, Western Ukraine. In Chechena a traditional russian hating part of Russia. That is until recently, Russia leveled Grozny and killed every terrorist. The ones still alive went to syria. Can Russia level Western Ukraine and kill every Nazis or force them to go to Europe? The answer is,Yes. Russia intelligenly does not want to kil normal Ukrainian soldiers in the rest of Ukraine. But when it comes to Nazistan, all bets are off.So yes, it’s very possible Russia will turn Lvov into Grozny! US Bio-Labs Ukraine Posted by: Sushi | Mar 7 2022 0:58 utc | 261 Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 7 2022 0:14 utc | 237 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 0:59 utc | 262 Section of a reply to another question. (this is all yandex translate)
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 1:00 utc | 263 Posted by: dh | Mar 7 2022 0:29 utc | 246 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 1:05 utc | 264 As to whether *any* evidence of bad things going on in Ukraine would be accepted by the West, the answer is almost certainly “no”. Things like research into bioweapons can always be claimed as fabrications or passed off as defensive research. Posted by: Billb | Mar 7 2022 1:05 utc | 265 Last section I will quote.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 1:06 utc | 266 to BM | Mar 6 2022 14:47 utc | 20 Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 7 2022 1:11 utc | 267 http://en.kremlin.ru/ is up – but very slow. Readouts of Putin’s phone calls with Macron, Bennett, Erdogan up and Scholz from the 4th plus other stuff. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 1:17 utc | 268 michaelj72 | Mar 7 2022 1:11 utc | 265 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 1:21 utc | 269 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 0:53 utc | 257 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 1:22 utc | 270 Until we see future analyses, this statement doesn’t prove a biowarfare program. It proves a bioresearch program on dangerous pathogens. That’s it. Posted by: K | Mar 7 2022 1:24 utc | 271 @262 There is more detail about the Polish jets in this article. It is far from a done deal. Posted by: dh | Mar 7 2022 1:27 utc | 272 bevin #253
Agreed, and the USA with the western peoples have a fine tradition in the International Workers of the World to uphold. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 1:28 utc | 273 Posted by: K | Mar 7 2022 1:24 utc | 269 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 1:33 utc | 274 i always figured that us/uk accusing china of releasing covid smelt a bit like “accuse the enemy of what you are doing” – then add to that the way china reacted as if under attack… Posted by: Rae | Mar 7 2022 1:34 utc | 275 @237 Arne Hartmann Posted by: ptb | Mar 7 2022 1:38 utc | 276 I am not a finance knowledgeable person but – what happens to all those banks who should have been closed down in the last financial crisis (2008?) with their CDOs & Derivatives and Mortgage Backed Securities etc. but never were. Posted by: digital dinosaur | Mar 7 2022 1:38 utc | 277 Posted by: dh | Mar 7 2022 1:27 utc | 270 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 1:39 utc | 278 @Uncle Tungsten #257 Posted by: $outhpaw | Mar 7 2022 1:39 utc | 279 World Economic Forum and its psychopathic corporate owners must be eliminated. They are a mortal danger to humanity: Posted by: Cerena | Mar 7 2022 1:43 utc | 280 Re. hard evidence for bioweapons research. Posted by: digital dinosaur | Mar 7 2022 1:45 utc | 281 ACPAL NATO will back down, cause NATO Is just fucking around, this IS existential for Russia. We’re just fiddling about, you know, through a few neo-Nazis in the breach, what’s a little collateral damage. And again, if a few of their own neo-Nazis wanna go abroad to get their yayas out, let em go get chewed up by the Russians, it’s a win, win, win. Arm sales are up, fuckery flourishes, and nothing really is lost. (Dollar supremacy may be compromised by pushing too hard, and much may be lost, but it will be a slow whimper, not a mushroom cloud. Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 7 2022 1:49 utc | 282 The US Company Metabiota Inc. has been awarded $18.4 million federal contracts under the Pentagon’s DTRA program in Georgia and Ukraine for scientific and technical consulting services. Metabiota services include global field-based biological threat research, pathogen discovery, outbreak response and clinical trials. Metabiota Inc. had been contracted by the Pentagon to perform work for DTRA before and during the Ebola crisis in West Africa and was awarded $3.1 million (2012-2015) for work in Sierra Leone – one of the countries at the epicenter of the Ebola outbreak. Posted by: Sushi | Mar 7 2022 1:50 utc | 283 @ Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 0:53 utc | 256 / 258 / 264.. thanks for sharing that… don’t be so hard on michaelj72.. he is a regular and a good guy.. Posted by: james | Mar 7 2022 1:51 utc | 284 RepofScotland: the Zionists understood well the value of suffering and some losses to galvanize the cause; I read all the “Jews in Europe aren’t worth one cow in Palestine” Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 7 2022 1:53 utc | 285 INTERESTING Posted by: Sushi | Mar 7 2022 1:54 utc | 286 Western media have claimed that Putin is without support from the Russian Cognresso and the population to continue the operation in Ukraine so he would have to retreat and stop. Do you know if this is real? Posted by: Lui | Mar 7 2022 1:57 utc | 287 dh | Mar 7 2022 1:27 utc | 270
Why doesn’t Ukraine just give the jets back to Poland when they are finished with them? Posted by: Keith McClary | Mar 7 2022 1:59 utc | 288 $outhpaw #277 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 2:01 utc | 289 $outhpaw #above Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 2:02 utc | 290 Sushi #284
It is an inconsistent and random link assassination bug. I can work around using tinyurl or post as split up url. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 2:06 utc | 292 Martyanov on the “plan” to provide Polish jets to Ukraine…
Exactly what I said. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 2:08 utc | 293 > Richard Steven Hack et al. Posted by: Ret. Ed. | Mar 7 2022 2:09 utc | 294 Posted by: Keith McClary | Mar 7 2022 1:59 utc | 286 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 2:11 utc | 295 For the barflies to ponder. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 2:12 utc | 296 Posted by: Ret. Ed. | Mar 7 2022 2:09 utc | 292 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 2:14 utc | 297 Ted Postol reports that Russia’s early warning system does not give comprehensive understanding of what’s going on in the world; that is, it does not have global situational awareness. Postol finds the current crisis thus very dangerous as he believes there surely exists pre-delegated launch authorities given as well. See 1:05 in presentation at CN March 6, 2022 with John J Mearsheimer, Ray McGovern, Jack Matlock, and others. Posted by: suzan | Mar 7 2022 2:16 utc | 298 @ Sushi | Mar 7 2022 1:54 utc | 284 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 7 2022 2:18 utc | 299 @ Ret. Ed. | Mar 7 2022 2:09 utc | 292 Posted by: james | Mar 7 2022 2:18 utc | 300 |
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