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March 6, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-22
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Ukraine and not: Posted by: William Haught | Mar 6 2022 13:36 utc | 1 If I could get Telegram without giving my phone number I would. But alas, social media companies ‘need’ your phone number. Posted by: JustAnotherAussie | Mar 6 2022 13:43 utc | 2 I have wondered how Putin would introduce the off-switch for Ukraine as a country and the switch to Novorossiya, Stara Rus / Kievskaya Rus / Galicia etc. Now this is becoming clear: the fact that Ukraine may not just have talked about developing nukes, but were in the process of doing so. Putin said clearly yesterday: “If Ukraine would have done this, then they will put their entire statehood at risk, and they will be entirely to blame.” Russian intelligence has already indicated so much, so expect this to be whipped up much more towards the end of the war, in time for some major pronouncements on how Russia will organize Ukraine into a protectorate with different regions – and no more reference to a joint Ukraine. Posted by: Josh V | Mar 6 2022 13:47 utc | 3 I believe they need a workaround for the DNS to permit telegram to display RT Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 6 2022 13:51 utc | 4 Victoria Nuland in blue enters Ukraine in the background with Sec. Blinken. Posted by: too scents | Mar 6 2022 13:52 utc | 5 RT vid on abandon ukraine army camp. They left everything. Posted by: jo6pac | Mar 6 2022 13:59 utc | 6 I think this Clif High video is one of the best hitorical documents about the predicaments we are in. Posted by: Jeffrey | Mar 6 2022 14:05 utc | 7 Vinnytsia Airport destroyed. Posted by: Julian | Mar 6 2022 14:05 utc | 8 Peter Hitchens writing in the Mail on Sunday today here in the UK, says: “I saw what was coming. That’s why I won’t join this carnival of hypocrisy.” Posted by: tobyt | Mar 6 2022 14:09 utc | 9 Re: Posted by: JustAnotherAussie | Mar 6 2022 13:43 utc | 2 Posted by: Julian | Mar 6 2022 14:09 utc | 10 It seems to me that it is pretty much going according to plan for the US empire. Unable to compete fairly with the Russian energy sector or the Chinese manufacturers they have decided to partition the world, at least until they have a better plan. The Russians have been cut out of the European energy market so the US can sell their overpriced fracked gas and the Europeans, which are after all their rivals, are going to get royally screwed. Next on the list presumably is Taiwan, doubtless more attempts will be made to goad the Chinese into an invasion and then the partition will be complete. Posted by: MarkU | Mar 6 2022 14:14 utc | 11 Ukrainian Nationalists have kidnapped and are torturing Maxim Ryndovskiy, Ukrainian MMA fighter from Kiev, because he trained with Chechen MMA club Ahmat and has called for peace in Donbass: videos. Please repost widely, this may save his life! Posted by: S | Mar 6 2022 14:19 utc | 12 It seems to me that it is pretty much going according to plan for the US empire. Posted by: too scents | Mar 6 2022 14:26 utc | 13 Best Sitrep channel with on map analysis I have seen so far. Frequent updates, and long impartial, detailed and accurate analyses of the situation. Definitely deserve much more publicity. Some gentleman from Singapore as I understand. Well worth it: Posted by: CPY | Mar 6 2022 14:27 utc | 14 (Posted this in the wrong thread, repost in the correct thread.) Posted by: Lurk | Mar 6 2022 14:35 utc | 15 This Video exposes the provocations of neo-Nazis who, by bombing and killing their own people, create a “pretty” picture for the Western media. This is once again showing the fact that the main goal of the West in Ukraine is to turn it into a second Afghanistan. Posted by: AntiFake | Mar 6 2022 14:38 utc | 16 Posted by: Lurk | Mar 6 2022 14:35 utc | 16 Posted by: too scents | Mar 6 2022 14:40 utc | 17 Posted by: William Haught | Mar 6 2022 13:36 utc | 1
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Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 14:42 utc | 18 Is the Narrative that Russia Misanticiapted Ukrainian Resistance True? Posted by: Douglas Houck | Mar 6 2022 14:43 utc | 19 I posted a long machine translation from Chinese at the tail end of the last thread – this was translated from a link posted by Posted by: BM | Mar 6 2022 14:47 utc | 20 Posted by: Julian | Mar 6 2022 14:05 utc | 8 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 14:48 utc | 21 Posted by: BM | Mar 6 2022 14:47 utc | 20 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 14:51 utc | 22 Re: Posted by: Lurk | Mar 6 2022 14:35 utc | 15 Posted by: Julian | Mar 6 2022 14:53 utc | 23 @8 Julian Posted by: ptb | Mar 6 2022 14:55 utc | 24 Why did the Russians not try to raise a UN mandate for intervention … Posted by: BM | Mar 6 2022 14:55 utc | 25 @ too scents | Mar 6 2022 14:26 utc | 13 Posted by: MarkU | Mar 6 2022 14:57 utc | 26 Posted by: CPY | Mar 6 2022 14:27 utc | 14 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 15:00 utc | 27 This came just in from a german journalist living in Donezk, needs verification. Quick translation via Deepl: Posted by: Luke | Mar 6 2022 15:02 utc | 28 Posted by: too scents | Mar 6 2022 14:26 utc | 13 Posted by: Milos | Mar 6 2022 15:03 utc | 29 Blinken and Nuland are Jews as thus the “holocaust survivors.” Posted by: Cerena | Mar 6 2022 15:06 utc | 30 @Julian #10 Posted by: c1ue | Mar 6 2022 15:10 utc | 31 Posted by: ptb | Mar 6 2022 14:55 utc | 24 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 15:10 utc | 32 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 14:48 utc | 21 Posted by: Milos | Mar 6 2022 15:12 utc | 33 I’ve been up all night. Time to hit the hay. Talk later this afternoon. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 15:13 utc | 34 AntiFake | Mar 6 2022 14:38 utc | 16 Posted by: ld | Mar 6 2022 15:28 utc | 35 Posted by: Luke | Mar 6 2022 15:02 utc | 28 Posted by: Jonathan W | Mar 6 2022 15:33 utc | 36 @Lurk #16 (in other thread, moving discussion to this correct one)
I disagree. Posted by: c1ue | Mar 6 2022 15:34 utc | 37 Still up for a few more minutes. Just read this very dismissive comment from Maryanov. People should read his entire latest post.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 6 2022 15:40 utc | 38 China’s strongest statement on the Ukraine conflict to date.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254121.shtml Posted by: too scents | Mar 6 2022 15:46 utc | 39 @32 Richard Steven Hack Posted by: ptb | Mar 6 2022 15:46 utc | 40 Jeez oh, BBC personnel now posting on Twitter how and where to throw a Molotov cocktail for Ukrainians who want to attack Russian vehicles. The BBC employee is telling them to throw the Molotov cocktails through the viewing hatches, and the air inlets of Russian military vehicles. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 6 2022 15:46 utc | 41 A concept that it would do well to accept and make peace with is that it is almost certain the Russians will use nuclear weapons. The Russians have said as much will be the result if NATO and the West doesn’t stay out of the conflict. Look at your leaders in the West and try to convince yourself that these delusional morons won’t try to “salami slice” their way into reinforcing their position in the Ukraine. The Russians do not care at this point if the US can find some sort of legal loopholes that they can use to attack the Russians in the Ukraine from airbases in Poland. Those loopholes will not protect those airbases from getting nuked. Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 6 2022 15:49 utc | 42 IN WW2 Britain did not enjoy any victory apart from the scuttling of the Graf Spee in Monetvideo before El Alamein in 1942. Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 6 2022 15:56 utc | 43 @ William Gruff | Mar 6 2022 15:49 utc | 42 who thinks Russia will take their military effort into Poland Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 6 2022 16:03 utc | 44 The truth of course is deeper, the real war the Globalists are fighting is against the citizenry of every country on earth. As the Covid atrocity is being rapidly exposed the repression of the people is the only option open to the New World Order Davos cabal. As has always been the case, a war abroad is the best excuse to impose tyranny at home. The Western Neo-liberal governments of America, Canada, Australia and most of Europe cannot afford to be removed from power. The full anger of the people will be unleashed full power against those who imposed the Genocidal Covid lie upon them. Trudeau, Macron et al will be held to account (one way or another) for their pivotal roles in this atrocity. They cannot allow that to happen, they have too much to lose. Posted by: ld | Mar 6 2022 16:03 utc | 45 William Gruff @ 42 Posted by: circumspect | Mar 6 2022 16:04 utc | 46 How the West has know for years that Ukraine has been infested with Nazi’s but turned a blind eye to it. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 6 2022 16:10 utc | 47 BBC neutrality is slightly suspect as they teach Ukrainians how to throw Molotov cocktails. https://twitter.com/BowenBBC/status/1499668674940133378 Posted by: deadpoet | Mar 6 2022 16:12 utc | 48 The armchair general in me continues to wonder why the situation in Syria is not being brought to the forefront to push the illegal bully meme out into the open. Posted by: Activist Potato | Mar 6 2022 16:20 utc | 49 Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 6 2022 15:49 utc | 42 Posted by: Misotheist | Mar 6 2022 16:24 utc | 50 I would much prefer this to be over quickly but I don’t see how. The current stage will be fast enough but where does it end again? I do not see how for instance the Azov battalion will release the population, and it is not just Mariupol. Then Russia will attack and the cameras will be ready with emotional pictures of dead helpless citizens fueling the inflow of fighters ans weapons. Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Mar 6 2022 16:25 utc | 51 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 6 2022 15:46 utc | 41 Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Mar 6 2022 16:25 utc | 52 Buying our way out of Ukraine: Posted by: Mats55 | Mar 6 2022 16:27 utc | 53 Posted by: circumspect | Mar 6 2022 16:04 utc | 46 Posted by: Misotheist | Mar 6 2022 16:28 utc | 54 ““Since the war began, the border villages have been full of expensive cars from the capital; they negotiate for crossing for a bribe. The employees of the Prosecutor General’s Office, courts, MPs have been waving their badges”, – a local woman from the village of Shehyni, Lviv oblast, shared her memories. Posted by: Mats55 | Mar 6 2022 16:30 utc | 55 I encountered a book about a decade or more ago that charted the presence of neo-Nazis and their regalia in US armed forces units occupying Iraq. They were at least tolerated because their commanders considered them good soldiers. They were probably also more committed to the mission than the average US soldier. Posted by: Waldorf | Mar 6 2022 16:34 utc | 56 Not that Ukraine leaders care but spring is coming and if this drags on, there will be issues with farm production. Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 6 2022 16:37 utc | 57 Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 6 2022 15:49 utc | 42 Posted by: Greg Galloway | Mar 6 2022 16:37 utc | 58 Bitterly y amusing to see UK mouthpieces reach for the statesmanship track now–‘great power,’ ‘founding member of the UN’ yada yada — 2 weeks after suggesting they would be giving Russia an ass-kicking. Posted by: Paul Damascene | Mar 6 2022 16:46 utc | 59 Michael Tracey: Posted by: Hidari | Mar 6 2022 16:46 utc | 60 A resounding rebuke from Nasrallah Posted by: ld | Mar 6 2022 16:47 utc | 61 @9 tobyt Posted by: Circe | Mar 6 2022 16:48 utc | 62 Hidari @ 60 Posted by: gottlieb | Mar 6 2022 16:50 utc | 63 Josh V 3, Posted by: reante | Mar 6 2022 16:58 utc | 65 In the event that NATO sends jets across the border or commits what Russia will clearly treat as an act of war, IMHO the single NATO asset sitting at the top of Russia’s reprisal list should be the shiny new British aircraft carrier, after that insult of sailing through Crimean waters and talking shite. Posted by: Paul Damascene | Mar 6 2022 17:05 utc | 66 Looney comments, Russia won’t attack US or Britain directly, won’t use nukes, but can take out any airstrips that support incoming aircraft. That is low risk, low cost, high inconvenience target. Russia doesn’t want to escalate, they want to normalize matters asap. Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 6 2022 17:13 utc | 67 Ukrainian Nationalists abusing a man apparently because he has a “RUSSIA” tattoo: video. What a beautiful young democracy, bravely fighting to protect European values of tolerance and human dignity! Posted by: S | Mar 6 2022 17:15 utc | 68 Following events with some hope that the empire, and its minions, will show some reason and discipline, before their unadulterated greed, and lust for control, doom us all, here on planet earth. Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 6 2022 17:17 utc | 69 Imam Khamenei, the Leader of the Islamic Revolution in Iran, addressed the people in a live televised speech today (March 1, 2022) on the occasion of Eid al-Mab’ath, the day on which the Holy Prophet of Islam (pbuh) was appointed to prophethood. Posted by: ld | Mar 6 2022 17:20 utc | 70 Somewhere in the recent moa article that was co-opted by a few commentators with no intellectual curiosity, was this statement about the “young left.” It would take a lot of time to analyze this properly, but my experience with young people leads me to believe that this group consults the NYTimes for info. Posted by: Geoff | Mar 6 2022 17:20 utc | 71 If the Russians can preempt then they will, anyone would. I believe they can and that they will be good at it too, but they may not be the only ones or the first to act on it. This is one of many reasons I keep saying the US and “the west” are committing suicide and must save themselves from themselves if they are to survive. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Mar 6 2022 17:20 utc | 72 There is the not so small problem of debt destruction. Removing Russia from Western trade significantly shrinks the available pool of assets available for collateralization. Posted by: reante | Mar 6 2022 17:27 utc | 73 @uke | Mar 6 2022 15:02 utc | 28
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 6 2022 17:36 utc | 75 Trying to get somewhere. . . “Regarding accessing RT using Telegram trying to bypass censorship of a fascist” ? Posted by: elmagnosr | Mar 6 2022 17:36 utc | 76 According to a very well connected source Russian counter sanctions will be announced this coming Tuesday. Posted by: winston | Mar 6 2022 17:37 utc | 77 I was wondering how and when Pope Francis, one of the cult behind the God of Mammon curtain, was going to come out about Ukraine Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 6 2022 17:42 utc | 78 Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 6 2022 17:13 utc | 67 Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Mar 6 2022 17:48 utc | 79 – The US has been “supporting” the “Far right” in the Ukraine since (about) 1990/1991. Posted by: Willy2 | Mar 6 2022 17:50 utc | 80 Psychohistorian (comment 78) – How many divisions does the Pope have? Posted by: Waldorf | Mar 6 2022 17:53 utc | 81 Cu1 (31) Posted by: Virgile | Mar 6 2022 17:53 utc | 82 psychoh @ 78 said;”Once you get folks buying into the main lie about monotheism, the hook is set and they can be led around as needed as long as they think they are doing God’s work.” Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 6 2022 17:56 utc | 83 Gottlieb @63 Posted by: Hidari | Mar 6 2022 17:58 utc | 84 Jorgen Hassler – 52 – The hypocrisy is outstanding and astounding. Anarchists in Greece sometimes throw Molotovs at police. I understand the penalty for being convicted of throwing a Molotov has been raised to 10 years there. Posted by: Waldorf | Mar 6 2022 18:04 utc | 85 re. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s-got-a-real-problem-with-far-right-violence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/ Posted by: jared | Mar 6 2022 18:04 utc | 86 Posted by: Willy2 | Mar 6 2022 17:50 utc | 80 Posted by: too scents | Mar 6 2022 18:07 utc | 87 This is an existential fight between Russia and the US Empire. Finding a laptop with a glaring NATO decal on it with information seems like it could be disinformation or full of viruses or reach back. I’m quite sure that precautions were taken, but something so obvious. The guy who left it is in big trouble when they go looking for all of those Pre-loaded attack laptops. Not being a military person, I find it hard that a latop with more details then immediately needed would surface in a base, then again, who cleans old data off laptops. I wonder what else will be found in these abandoned bases and other places. Posted by: Ozz | Mar 6 2022 18:12 utc | 89 “The BBC is spreading information on how to commit suicide.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 6 2022 18:14 utc | 90 NATO decal on it Posted by: too scents | Mar 6 2022 18:14 utc | 91 Willy2 @80– @Virgile #82 Posted by: c1ue | Mar 6 2022 18:22 utc | 93 Allegedly two Sky news reporter were shot (not killed) just outside Kiev, the blame unsurprisingly had be apportioned to Russian forces, a nice wee propaganda story. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 6 2022 18:25 utc | 94 NATO Laptop is now on sputniknews.com
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 6 2022 18:27 utc | 95 Today, March 6, is a day of Global Action for Peace. Posted by: expat | Mar 6 2022 18:27 utc | 96 William Gruff @42– As one door closes so another opens, and with India refusing to sanction Russia, things might not get that bad in Russia, the same cannot be said of what will happen in Europe. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 6 2022 18:32 utc | 98 For those that didn’t see this yesterday, Michael Hudson on Crosstalk on Russia’s security operation and the Putin Doctrine, although the latter remains nameless but somewhat explained. This from reante-73, The reason that the ongoing repo crisis (rearing its ugly head again) is the terminal market crisis of Finance Capitalism is because the repo market is structurally and functionally the game of Hot Potato. Posted by: George | Mar 6 2022 18:40 utc | 100 |
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