Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
March 14, 2022
Ukraine – Officials Announce False Flag Attack – Sanctions Hit Back

There is significant danger that the Ukraine, the UK or the U.S. will launch a false flag attack in Ukraine.

People have started to take note of the directional fear mongering that is coming from various 'western' officials.

The Sirius Report @thesiriusreport – 23:36 UTC · Mar 12, 2022

Setting the scene for a false flag?

Polish President:
If Putin uses weapons of mass destruction in Ukraine, NATO will have to think seriously about what to do.

You would have to be sub 100 IQ not to see what is going on.

To which I responded:

Moon of Alabama @MoonofA – 17:56 UTC · Mar 13, 2022

They are indeed doing this on all channels.
IMHO an upcoming false flag attempt to get NATO into the fight.

Historian and Russia expert Gilbert Doctorow points into the same direction:

Warning: it is “highly likely” the United States is now about to carry out a ‘false flag’ operation in Ukraine in which it will accuse the Russians of using chemical weapons.

The caption which yahoo.com is now carrying reads as follows:

USA Today: Russia could be preparing for chemical weapons attack; 35 killed in strike on base near Lviv: Live updates

Now why would Russia stage a chemical weapons attack in Ukraine? The idea defies all reason. Russia has vast possibilities of destroying Ukraine that it has not deployed to date precisely to avoid civilian casualties. These include cyber attack, electromagnetic pulse (EMP) and more intense use of its airpower which has been restrained due to shortage of smart bombs and reluctance to use munitions that might cause greater collateral damage.

Given these manifest signs of Russian caution in staging the war, even at the cost of greater casualties among its own troops and slower progress in a campaign that is very time sensitive, one would have to be utterly mad to consider using universally banned chemical weapons. I rest my case: any so-called chemical attack which may be staged in Ukraine in coming days can only be the dirty work of the United States and its agents.

Having seen how easy it was to deceive the 'western' media by staging a fake hospital attack one can easily understand how a fake 'chemical attack by Russia' would lead to a public stampede that would push NATO into the Ukraine war.

Meanwhile Patrick Lancaster reports from Donetsk:

Patrick Lancaster @PLnewstoday – 10:47 UTC · Mar 14, 2022

#BREAKING Dozens Killed By Ukrainian Cluster Bomb Attack On Center Donetsk. Full report coming soon
video

The U.S. is trying to pressure China to join their anti-Russian campaign. Yesterday 'anonymous officials' claimed, without evidence, that Russia had asked China for military and economic aid.

Moon of Alabama @MoonofA – 20:21 UTC · Mar 13, 2022

"U.S. officials said .." equals "Guaranteed to be a lie .."

Quoted Tweet:

Michael Birnbaum @michaelbirnbaum · 17h
NEW, and BIG -> Russia has turned to China for military equipment and aid in the weeks since it began its invasion of Ukraine, U.S. officials said. @nakashimae scoop. https://washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/..

"Scoop" now means picking up the phone when some official calls you to plant a lie.

Russia is exporting weapons to China, not importing weapons from it. China has now confirmed that there were no such Russian requests:

Beijing blasted Washington’s recent allegations as disinformation that Russia sought military assistance from China to conduct its special operation in Ukraine, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Zhao Lijian said at a briefing on Monday.

"The allegations on the matter disseminated by the US are false information," the diplomat specified.

The first story on this also includes this lie:

In recent days, Chinese diplomats, state media organizations and government agencies have used a range of platforms and official social media accounts to amplify a conspiracy theory that says the Pentagon has been financing biological and chemical weapons labs in Ukraine.

That is not a conspiracy theory but, as Tulsi Gabbard points out, a hard fact which even the U.S. government now admits.

The British press took note of it:

Vladimir Putin could unleash biological weapon from seized Ukraine lab, experts fear

The U.S. is delusional in its attempts to deter China from working with Russia:

Jake Sullivan, the White House national security adviser, is scheduled to meet on Monday in Rome with Yang Jiechi, a member of the Chinese Communist Party’s elite Politburo and director of the party’s Central Foreign Affairs Commission.

Mr. Sullivan intends to warn Mr. Yang about any future Chinese efforts to bolster Russia in its war or undercut Ukraine, the United States and their partners.

“We are communicating directly, privately to Beijing that there will absolutely be consequences for large-scale sanctions evasion efforts or support to Russia to backfill them,” Mr. Sullivan said on CNN on Sunday.

“We will not allow that to go forward and allow there to be a lifeline to Russia from these economic sanctions from any country, anywhere in the world,” he said.

China will of course continue to have good relations with Russia. It is not for the U.S. 'to allow' or disallow China to trade with Russia. The Biden administration has nothing it could do about it. It should stop its campaign and think about how it can dig itself out of the huge hole it has jumped into.

Reviewing the trade shock 'western' societies will now experience because of their extensive sanctions campaign against Russia Yves Smith concludes:

Although the complexity of this situation makes it impossible to make any forecasts, consider: a worst case scenario is much much worse than stagflation. Just wrap your mind around the consequences the merely the two outcomes described above: a fair bit of famine and supply shortfalls, even potentially problems with maintaining some critical infrastructure due to chip scarcity. Some of that productive capacity loss could become permanent due to business failures.

And let us remind you … so far we are discussing only what the West has done to itself. What happens if Russia goes full Smoot-Hawley and retaliates, or engages in the passive aggressive version, as in no formal pronunciations, just supplies go to friendlies and the West gets chocked down, not 100% but enough to feel like that.

The Democratic Party is in the process of executing a controlled flight into terrain. Too bad that we are along for the ride.

Yesterday and today there seemed to be only minor Russian movement on the battlefield. Presumably Russia is regrouping its forces for the next steps. What those are going to be is for anyone to guess. They will come as soon as the current negotiations between Kiev and Moscow fail. The U.S. will see for that to happen.

Comments

The Outlaw US Empire craves pictures of bombed-out cities, like Falluja, Baghdad, Belgrade, and the like that are produced by its adversary, but Russia won’t comply, and that enrages the Outlaws such that they froth at the mouth in rage. The World sees the difference easily as they’ve seen Russia’s tactic before in Syria. Once dollar dependence is negated, the World will be freed from bondage, and the new paradigm will swing into play.
That’s the Big Picture as Humanity battles once again for the Four Freedoms.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 15 2022 5:33 utc | 301

@284 Dadda | Mar 15 2022 4:19 utc … more
Now that I’ve read the Tom Luongo piece I had to return to say what a brilliant article it is.
I’m finding that the concept of inside money versus outside money is an extremely easy way to parse the state of play in the world’s markets. It’s so humanly intuitive.
There is so much latent, pent-up justice lying wait in the concept that inside money is a claim on outside money’s true resources that mean nothing if you can’t back up the claim by enforcement.
And as Luongo starkly points out, the US just picked a fight with the one country that holds the real, outside resources that run the world, and has the necessary force to deny the insubstantial claims of the fiat-based paper.
~~
And in case this seems off-topic, Luongo does tie Ukraine in here too. When you take a lever and tip the entire world – as Russia and China apparently have done in the last year or so – it’s natural that fields of study will overlap 🙂
Here’s the Luongo article again, for quick reference:
The Ins and Outs of Whose Money is it Anyway?

Posted by: Grieved | Mar 15 2022 5:34 utc | 302

@279 Roger
Medvedev was merely warming the seat for Putin. You think Putin wasn’t involved in that critical decision that led to a USNATO no-fly zone over Libya?

Posted by: Circe | Mar 15 2022 5:39 utc | 303

I thought I’s seen him mentioned on Voltairenet, and found this gem;
BHL “.. became in 1992 media adviser to the president of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Alija Izetbegović, while Richard Perle was his political adviser and Osama bin Laden his military advisor.”

Posted by: Dadda | Mar 15 2022 5:40 utc | 304

“Americans have been softened up psychologically to be even more accepting of authoritative propa —Posted by: librul | Mar 14 2022 15:29 utc | 27
🤣` …

Posted by: Laurence | Mar 15 2022 5:41 utc | 305

Can you stop spamming with your mental farts? Too much noise to signal in your posts.
Posted by: Boo | Mar 14 2022 22:28 utc | 204
Better than verbal diarrhea I guess.
Maybe it will help if I reframe it. The US has military bases in Saudi Arabia. That makes it a de facto colony until further notice.
Possession is nine-tenths of the law.

Posted by: reante | Mar 15 2022 6:01 utc | 306

Posted by: Grieved | Mar 15 2022 5:34 utc | 295
Just read it. Since I’m a former “right-wing” anarchist following Austrian Economic Theory, as Luongo does, it resonated very well with me. Also his acknowledgement that property means nothing without enforcement resonates with the individualist anarchist part of me. That is a reality that people that live in the midst of vague concepts like property, morality, ethics, etc. just can’t understand.

I know this opens up a massive can of philosophical worms. That’s exactly the point I’m trying to make. When civilization breaks down, legal claims tend towards zero value. Civilization breaks down through the systemic subversion of the agreed upon rules to the advantage of some at the expense of the other.

Exactly. This is what anarchism is entirely based on – recognition of that last sentence.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 15 2022 6:01 utc | 307

@Posted by: Circe | Mar 15 2022 5:39 utc | 296
Medvedev is the representative of the Western-oriented liberals. although he seems to have changed his tune lately. That vote was a huge mistake, perhaps Putin tried to wash himself of the blame by putting it on Medvedev. It certainly taught him a lesson for Syria (and the Chinese).

Posted by: Roger | Mar 15 2022 6:02 utc | 308

Posted by: Kim | Mar 15 2022 4:39 utc | 288
They’re right – except it’s Ukraine that will be out of resources and forced to surrender by May – if not much, much earlier. See, it’s easy – just take every Ukraine statement and assume the opposite is true. Works every time.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 15 2022 6:04 utc | 309

@ Dadda | Mar 15 2022 4:19 utc | 284 with the Luongo posting link and Grieved with other follow up…thanks….good update for me on metal markets
I agree that the inside/outside are useful money concepts but bitcoin is an inside, not an outside sort…..
Bitcoin has no intrinsic value like all the other outside things do. It is another example of fiat currency….who owns it? Bitcoin also does not scale to be useful like other examples of crypto currencies (look up permissioned versus permissionless blockchain)…China’s crypto currency is permissioned and can scale.
Luongo’s myopia about and obfuscation around bitcoin are why I don’t follow him nor Max Keiser closely

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 15 2022 6:04 utc | 310

how is the timing of china’s worst flu outbreak in two years…

Posted by: Rae | Mar 15 2022 6:05 utc | 311

@ Rae | Mar 15 2022 6:05 utc | 304 about Covid in China and timing
What is not reported in what I have read is what variant they are seeing and the seriousness of the infection. If it is omicron then they may not be able to contain it but its effects are reported to be mild.
Need more information

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 15 2022 6:21 utc | 312

Rae 304
The natives must be getting restless again.

Posted by: reante | Mar 15 2022 6:31 utc | 313

B wrote
“Yesterday and today there seemed to be only minor Russian movement on the battlefield. Presumably Russia is regrouping its forces for the next steps”
I was puzzled what is going on. My take is that Russians are hoping that once majority of Ukrainians in the East who found themselves surrounded in cauldron will eventually lay down their arms. Meanwhile the only active operation will be taking place in Mariupol cleaning the remaining Azov Battalion forces. Just a minimal necessary measure demonstrating responsible approach that doesn’t risk lives and destruction on both sides.

Posted by: Milos | Mar 15 2022 6:37 utc | 314

From Russia with Love

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2022 7:15 utc | 315

psychohistorian | Mar 15 2022 6:21 utc | 305
Looks to be a variant of omicron that mostly shows no symptoms.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2022 7:18 utc | 316

permit me to quote journalist Elijah Magnier on this conflict – perhaps some of you read him on twitter or at his website
“Veteran War Journalist:+35 yrs in Iran,Lebanon,Syria,Iraq, Libya,Sudan, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia…”
his recent thread tonight, with the first 7 points
https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1503599975082639364
Bottom line:
1. #Ukraine army has been trained by the #US and #NATO since 2015.
2. US failure to respect its verbal promise to keep NATO away from the former Soviet Union countries is behind US-Russia clash. Surf the net decades back and you’ll find all the warnings since 1997.
3. The #US has been provoking #Russia to a fight in a third country (Georgia and Ukraine) and supplying weapons to Ukraine after studying the kind of war Russia could start and which forces it can inject into the battle.
4. #US and #NATO supply #Ukraine with adequate weapons to keep #Russia the longest possible in the country by mounting guerrilla warfare with anti-tank missiles. Normal because Ukrainian airforce and military capability as a classical army were defeated from day two.
5. #Russia used gloves in the 1st weeks of this war on many fronts, not on others, & reached #Kyiv in 2 days when the #US &coalition needed 21 days to occupy #Iraq, a country with no support, under heavy sanctions, no resources, no friends & people supported Saddam Hussein’s fall
6. Because the US objective to break #Russia’s prestige regardless of the number of #Ukranian killed, #Moscow is changing its military tactics & starting different tactics to compensate it 1st softer one.
7. Still Russia prefers to end this war negotiating w/minimum losses to all……

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 15 2022 7:30 utc | 317

Israel Attempts to Help Ukraine With Aid and Mediation, But How is it Being Taken in Kiev? https://sputniknews.com/20220315/israel-attempts-to-help-ukraine-with-aid-and-mediation-but-how-is-it-being-taken-in-kiev-1093884040.html

Israel has come under immense pressure from the US to join its anti-Kremlin sanctions. The Jewish state has managed to stand firm in the face of Washington’s demands.

It hasn’t banned Russian planes from landing in Israel (even though all flights to Russia have been cancelled due to the hostilities). It hasn’t forbidden Israelis from carrying out cash transactions with Russians, although monetary transfers are only possible in US dollars. It also hasn’t agreed to block access to Russia’s leading news channels and websites, although it has become extremely difficult to open them through the various internet browsers.

Posted by: Laurence | Mar 15 2022 7:33 utc | 318

Swedish Government Proposes Giant $1.5Bn Relief Package Amid Record Energy Prices – 15.03.2022, Sputnik International https://sputniknews.com/20220315/swedish-government-proposes-giant-15bn-relief-package-amid-record-energy-prices-1093882579.html … Damberg pinned the long-term price hikes on “Russia’s actions” and

Posted by: Laurence | Mar 15 2022 7:38 utc | 319

Country X has biolabs
Country X has Nazis
Country X has corruption
COUNTRY X IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO MY NATION AND I MUST INVADE!!!
even if
Country X has disarmed all its nukes in exchange for guarantees of sovereignty.

Posted by: Mr Green Jeans | Mar 15 2022 7:59 utc | 320

People of Ukraine are not represented by the ruling regime which is a clique.
People of USA are not represented by the ruling regime which is a clique
People of UK are not represented by ruling regime which is a clique
People of Germany do not support the ruling cliques and have not for decades

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 15 2022 8:11 utc | 321

Mr Green Jeans | Mar 15 2022 7:59 utc | 313

Country X has disarmed all its nukes in exchange for guarantees of sovereignty.

Country X announced its intention to re-acquire nukes, thereby nullifying that agreement.

Posted by: Kukulkan | Mar 15 2022 8:27 utc | 322

Also, Nazis with nukes and bio-weapons is not something you want anywhere.

Posted by: Kukulkan | Mar 15 2022 8:29 utc | 323

It seems that the American and Western mercenaries/freedom fighters who have gone to #SupportUkraine are having a wonderful time in this vacation paradise.
Or not.
Shaken Foreign Volunteers Flee Ukraine After Base Hit by Russian Cruise Missiles — Ex-Marine Reports
https://anti-empire.com/shaken-foreign-volunteers-flee-ukraine-after-base-hit-by-russian-cruise-missiles-ex-marine-reports/

Posted by: ak74 | Mar 15 2022 8:43 utc | 324

The missile attack and Mercenary safe spaces.
****
I suspect that what the US had intended to do was create “safe spaces” in Western Ukraine. Similar to those in East Syria and Al-Tanf, where training and arming of resistants/terrorists/mercenaries/local forces could be carried out before sending them to attack the Russian and pro-Russian forces in the east.
This would be a long term “infection” that the US might have thought of using to eliminate any possible peaceful conclusion of the war in Ukraine.
The situations in Syria and Ukraine would have been similar. BUT in Syria, the SAA can’t attack the occupying US force, as they would be severely outgunned. In Ukraine it is not the same at all, as the effective missile attack showed.
****
Conclusion. Russia may have to occupy ALL Ukraine, so as not to leave opportunities for the US/others to arm and train mercenaries on Ukrainian soil for the forseeeable future.
The earlier ideas of Russia “leaving” the west and only occupying the Eastern parts of Ukraine, have been seriously compromised.
****
The US wants to stop all Russian ships from using the worlds’ waterways? So what happened to “freedom of the seas”? Of course, blocking one would lead to the blocking of the other, and would be an act of generalized war.

Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 15 2022 8:43 utc | 325

Stonebird | Mar 15 2022 8:43 utc | 318
The lunatics will likely try and cut off choke points like Panama canal Suez canal, Bosphorus ect.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2022 8:48 utc | 326

I expect increasingly more intensely sophisticated PR from US/NATO.
They don’t want NS2 or the Belt and Road project at any cost.
The Strausssians are now becoming more desperate, and it shows.
Breaking news: RT TV now banned in NZ.

Posted by: Paul | Mar 15 2022 8:49 utc | 327

Meta to ‘train’ Australian politicians for election

Facebook parent company Meta has announced a comprehensive package of measures to coach Australian politicians about the spread of “misinformation” ahead of the country’s general election this year. The company will “help train Australian political candidates on aspects of cyber security and coach influencers to stop the spread of misinformation in a bid to boost the integrity of an upcoming election,” according to a Reuters report published on Tuesday.

So, not only do Aussie politicians think de-Nazification is an “outrageous objective”, but now they’re being trained by these hatemongers.

Posted by: Kukulkan | Mar 15 2022 8:55 utc | 328

re the inanity at #300
individualist + anarchist = a contradiction in terms unless you are very rich, very powerful & don’t give a shit about yer fellow humans.
The crazy notion that anarchy can exist alongside individualism needs scrutiny as it is basically a cry for survival of the fittest with no leeway or understanding given for any human who ever finds themself behind the eight-ball.
I relate OK to the humans who live around me, I live on a chunk of land in my uncontested possession, so would probably do OK, as would most of my fellow old farts here at MoA, but a bank robber living in a welfare hostel who incessantly shows his dislike of his neighbours & fellow humans whilst living off the government tit probably wouldn’t last a day before someone smarter & stronger blew his stupid, contemptuous head off unless they as decent normal human beings felt sorry for this obvious dingbat. ie not individual anarchy but a sense of community.
My guess would be either a victim of his bank robbery standover, or someone close to that person would be first in line to do the job, otherwise it would be one of his fellow residents in the mens’ shelter cum boarding house this fantasist & make believe ‘anarchist’ resides in, who does pulls the trigger.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 15 2022 8:59 utc | 329

Putin signs law
MOSCOW, March 14. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law on support measures for civil aviation, providing the opportunity of registering rights to foreign airplanes leased by Russian companies and issuing domestic airworthiness certificates to them. The document was posted on the official web portal of legal information.
Amendments to the Russian Air Code and some other legislative acts make it possible for Russian airlines to keep the foreign aircraft fleet and give an opportunity to operate them on domestic lines. Civil aircraft will be certified using certification centers and test laboratories, with requirements to them to be determined by the Transport Ministry.
The law is aimed at preserving the foreign airplane fleet with Russian operators for purposes of smooth operation of civil aviation as part of anti-sanction measures, the explanatory note said.

Posted by: Kim | Mar 15 2022 9:01 utc | 330

House music from Iran
Mood.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2022 9:20 utc | 331

Corrected link of Anti-American activity ==> https://twitter.com/mokawima/status/1503475736203649028

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2022 9:22 utc | 332

I’m hopeful they won’t do this at least because the idea of having Russia in a bloody insurgent quagmire is more appealing. That way you don’t even need to replace Putin, it won’t matter who is running Russia, they’ll be neutralised while fighting massive insurgency in Ukraine and the country’s economy continue to shrink.
The risks associated with intervention on a false-flag pretext aren’t much lower than the risks associated with going in without one. Though public opinion may be mollified.

Posted by: Altai | Mar 15 2022 9:23 utc | 333

Apropos of nothing, handy pipeline map ==> https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/26769.jpeg

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2022 9:31 utc | 334

Paul Greenwood #314

People of Ukraine are not represented by the ruling regime which is a clique.
People of USA are not represented by the ruling regime which is a clique
People of UK are not represented by ruling regime which is a clique
People of Germany do not support the ruling cliques and have not for decades

In the case of Germany, they seem to always support the political parties acting for the ruling cliques. So what is the difference?

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 15 2022 9:36 utc | 335

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 15 2022 8:59 utc | 322
Thank you, Debs!!!!!

Posted by: vato | Mar 15 2022 9:41 utc | 336

Zelenskyy urges Russian troops to surrender as peace talks set to resume.
Lot of shit in the propaganda media on how badly Russia is going in Ukraine. Setting the stage for the evil Ruskies to pull out the chemical weapons.
I keep an eye on whats happening in the propaganda world as well as what is actually occurring.
Nobody in Alice’s propaganda world as yet knows The residents of Mariupol have been freed by the evil Chechens. All they know is the evil ruskies wont open humanitarian corridors. The coke sorter is giving a speech to congress shortly after calling on the inept ruskies to surrender.
The stage props are all in place.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2022 9:45 utc | 337

If Zelensky doesn’t agree to Russia’s terms; the situation will worsen exponentially for Ukraine and soon after for all other parties.
Zelensky is seeking nuclear war.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 15 2022 9:53 utc | 338

Posted by: Kukulkan | Mar 15 2022 8:55 utc | 321
Australia is basically a CIA station disguised as a country and has been since the 1970s coup.
https://www.alternet.org/2014/03/1970s-cia-backed-coup-australia/

Posted by: WJ | Mar 15 2022 9:55 utc | 339

Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2022 9:45 utc | 330
Still no mention on ABC of the Tochka-U missile strike 24 hours ago in Donesk.

Posted by: Dadda | Mar 15 2022 10:00 utc | 340

Kim | Mar 15 2022 9:01 utc | 323
“Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law on support measures for civil aviation, providing the opportunity of registering rights to foreign airplanes leased by Russian companies and issuing domestic airworthiness certificates to them.”
Thank you for that post, very interesting.
Seems to me that 100 years after the invention of aviation, the country of Russia, full of chess geeks and judo aces according to many comments here, found a way of registering planes and handling airworthiness certificates. And all on its own, now without the help of aviation giant Bermuda. You’ve got to give it to the Russians.
I apologize for the sarcasm or whatever it is, but reading the report you posted and adding it to other bits of information that have come up recently, the impression I get of Russia makes me want to bang my head on the desk. Here’s a country with more money in the bank than it would know what to do with, 600 billion in foreign reserves, 300 billion of which now f-f-f-f-rozen, yet the hundreds of planes of its flag carrier Aeroflot are only leased. Like they’re some breakaway province of a dirt-poor African dictatorship instead of the biggest country on Earth with a strong history of aviation. The concept of leasing has always confused me, but in my understanding, it involves tying yourself to banks, and all sorts of middlemen (all foreign). You pay through your nose, and at the end of the contract, you don’t even own the damn thing you’ve been leasing.
It’s easy enough to see how Russia’s souvereign wealth fund could have bought planes for the Russian market, and lease them back to Aeroflot, or is it not? Please tell me. Russian ownership, Russian banks, Russian currency, Russian value added?

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Mar 15 2022 10:15 utc | 341

Posted by: Dadda | Mar 15 2022 10:00 utc | 333
ABC news has used picture of the Donbas attack but presented it as Russia’s attack on mercenary training ground.
https://t.me/denatofication/759

Posted by: WJ | Mar 15 2022 10:22 utc | 342

#144 Tom Herrera “So what additional sources can I use to verify b’s various claims? He seems to rely on sources all slanted heavily towards the Russian perspective.”
I’m fairly certain that the only way to find the answers that you seek is to head over to Ukraine and sign up as a mercenary.
I’m told quite a few vacancies just opened up, so you should slot straight in.
The Ukrainians will probably put you up at Iavorov (western Ukraine) and that’s just a hop, skip and jump over from Poland.
Though I gather its been a bit hot there recently, which can be a real bummer.
Still, you want to educate yourself, so that’s probably the best place to start.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Mar 15 2022 10:40 utc | 343

Posted by: Circe | Mar 15 2022 3:30 utc | 278 & 279
Thanks for the context.
BHL is indeed a slimy creature.

Posted by: Paul | Mar 15 2022 10:41 utc | 344

Donbas attack but presented it as Russia’s attack … Posted by: WJ | Mar 15 2022 10:22 utc | 335
Network representation of the Western Press ==> https://mronline.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/cfr-media-network-hdb-spr.png
https://swprs.org/the-american-empire-and-its-media/

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2022 10:43 utc | 345

Bigger, better image link ==> https://swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/cfr-media-network-hdv-spr.png

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2022 10:46 utc | 346

Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2022 8:48 utc | 319
One thing never ceases to amaze me is how the US thinks the whole world belongs to them and they can do what they like.
None of the sensitive channels (Suez, Gibralrar, Al Bab and Bosphorus, from the Baltic etc.) “belong” to them, and seizing Russian vessels would amount to outright piracy.
Piracy – nothing new there.

Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 15 2022 10:54 utc | 347

None of the sensitive channels….
Hormuz anyone ?

Posted by: Lapin | Mar 15 2022 11:00 utc | 348

Dadda | Mar 15 2022 10:00 utc | 333
Yeah. Our fascist government, like Canada’s sides with the nazi’s of ukraine. The Morrison crew is just the successors – many were part of the Abbott crew. All worship her highness the head of oz and like to be around sniffing the farts of hereditary english titles. I’ve seen them, pic of some ancestor alongside royalty taking pride of place on the mantle piece. Fucking Sinclair Hill, what a piece of shit he was. Nother cunt I knew had a pic of his old man or grandfather on the mantle standing alongside royalty. He was nothing more than an inbred hillbilly living on what his grandfather built but Sinclair Hill turns upon search engines. He was a real piece of shit.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2022 11:01 utc | 349

15 MAR, 23:33
Talks on Russia’s security guarantees with US, NATO unlikely in previous format — Kremlin
Dmitry Peskov stated that it may be necessary to reshape the format of the negotiations adding that the talks are certainly highly unlikely to be resumed in their previous format.
MOSCOW, March 15. /TASS/. New talks with the United States and NATO on Russia’s proposed security guarantees may be desirable again, but it is highly unlikely to hold them in the previous format, Russian Presidential Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Tuesday.
“Of course, the negotiations may be desirable again, because the situation has drastically changed. New details and emphasis emerged,” Peskov told a news briefing in response to a question whether talks on Russia’s security guarantees should be closed or resumed.
Peskov stated that it may be necessary to reshape the format of the negotiations adding “They [the talks] are certainly highly unlikely to be resumed in their previous format.”
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said last Saturday that the previously proposed security guarantees to the United States and NATO were no longer valid because the situation has changed drastically.

Posted by: Kim | Mar 15 2022 11:16 utc | 350

Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2022 8:48 utc | 319
Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 15 2022 10:54 utc | 340
Posted by: Lapin | Mar 15 2022 11:00 utc | 341
Hormuz comes immediately to mind. It is just not Russian style, way to obvious.

Posted by: TomD | Mar 15 2022 11:18 utc | 351

Arestovich (Posted by: Kim | Mar 15 2022 4:39 utc) is a comedian, like Zelikovsky, and he has two well known and very practiced routines. One is telling the most unbelievable stories in a quiet measured voice with some undertone of “deep knowledge” (undertone in the voice, there is no actual knowledge). The second is transvestite play with all details, wig, miniskirt, bra — again, very convincing, but not as an “expert” but as a chick.
BTW, I never hear Arestovich speaking Ukrainian, although he presumably can read this language with proper diction.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 15 2022 11:27 utc | 352

Well,I suppose that’s one way to sell the gold !!
16 MAR, 00:11
Bank of Russia to suspend acquisition of gold from banks starting March 15
The demand for purchase of physical gold from the side of population has grown, the regulator pointed out
MOSCOW, March 15. /TASS/. Russia’s Central Bank will suspend the acquisition of gold from credit organizations starting March 15, 2022, the regulator said in a statement on Tuesday.
“The demand for purchase of physical gold from the side of population has grown, partially triggered by cancellation of VAT payment for those transactions. For the purpose of creating conditions for satisfying the consumer demand the Bank of Russia will suspend the acquisition of gold from credit organizations starting March 15, 2022,” the statement said.
Earlier, Sberbank and VTB stated an excessive demand for precious metals among their clients. Sberbank also announced plans to increase the number of offices authorized to sell bullions.
Russian President Vladimir Putin signed the bill exempting transactions on sale of precious metals in bullions by lenders to individuals with taking out from vaults from value-added tax (VAT) into law on March 9. In its turn, the Russian Finance Ministry has offered allowing citizens to buy investment gold in bullions for foreign cash.

Posted by: Kim | Mar 15 2022 11:28 utc | 353

It’s a good idea for China to remove its USD assets and invest in gold, uranium, precious metals from DPRK or whatever that’s valuable. USA is going to rob China next.
Russia must extract whatever it can from Ukraine to compensate for the loot USA robbed and for decades of cheap oil and gas granted to Ukraine. Ukraine’s nuclear plants and other valuable assets must be held until USA gives back the loot.

Posted by: Jason | Mar 15 2022 11:33 utc | 354

https://twitter.com/zhang_heqing/status/1503683942951571457?cxt=HHwWgsCyoYmllN4pAAAA
China gave a summary on the Yang Jiechi Sullivan meeting yesterday in Rome. Position hasnt changed as far as I can see: Ukraine history = accept Russian language to be spoken in Ukraine, indivisibility of security = dont move up to Russian borders, territorial integrity = Russia must not annex any Ukrainian territory.
One thing that stands out is the bitch slap for US disinformation campaign regarding China. Sullivan doesnt understand how to deal with Chinese culture of saving face. Sullivan’s disinformation “cannonade” (= Russia asks China for weapons) has backfired and more likely than not has entrenched China’s position.
Interestingly, the summary doesnt contain anything on the economic war on Russia and if China will keep trade open, which was the main concern of the US. Doesnt mean it hasnt been put out somewhere, but its not in this briefing. China hasnt done any major public move in one direction or the other.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 15 2022 11:35 utc | 355

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 15 2022 11:27 utc | 345
I had a laugh at the middle finger he raised at us/nato with the last paragraph.
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said last Saturday that the previously proposed security guarantees to the United States and NATO were no longer valid because the situation has changed drastically.

Posted by: Kim | Mar 15 2022 11:47 utc | 356

16 MAR, 00:29
Russia ready to normalize US ties, if Washington takes constructive stance, says Kremlin
When asked whether dialogue between Moscow and Washington and any normalization of relations are possible today, Peskov recalled that Putin “has always been in favor of building good relations based on mutual respect and readiness to take into account each other’s concerns”
Russian Presidential Spokesman Dmitry Peskov Mikhail
MOSCOW, March 15. /TASS/. Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Tuesday he had no doubts that President Vladimir Putin would show political willpower to normalize relations with the United States, if Washington takes a constructive position.
When asked by journalists whether dialogue between Moscow and Washington and any normalization of relations are possible today, Peskov recalled that Putin “has always been in favor of building good relations based on mutual respect and readiness to take into account each other’s concerns.”
“For several decades, President Putin has been bearing in mind our colleagues’ concerns, even the Americans, and had been asking to [them] to take our concerns into consideration. For 20 years, these concerns have been ignored and President Putin along with our country were faced with a fait accompli. When such an attitude is replaced with a constructive approach, I have no doubt that our president will demonstrate the corresponding political will,” Peskov stressed.

Posted by: Kim | Mar 15 2022 11:55 utc | 357

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 15 2022 11:35 utc | 348
With respect to China-US talks not much is said about India.
From the New Delhi Times India unsure of Russian arms to meet China, Pakistan threats


“The nightmare scenario for India would be if the U.S. comes to the conclusion that it confronts a greater threat from Russia and that this justifies a strategic accommodation with China. In blunt terms, concede Chinese dominance in Asia while safeguarding its European flank,” Shyam Saran, India’s former foreign secretary, wrote in a recent blog post.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2022 11:58 utc | 358

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2022 10:46 utc | 339
Well, thanks for the target list. I’ll save it for later.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 15 2022 11:59 utc | 359

Israel has been supplying India with military technology for some time. Nevertheless USA will never compromise its hegemonic autonomy for agreements with regional entities simply because it has failed to uphold any agreement in any region anywhere that restricts its opportunism.
This is historic and reflects the internal policies that saw every treaty with the American Indian population revised/reneged/renegotiated until the areas of land they actually occupied became increasingly disadvantaged and certainly far inferior to the position of the British Crown under George III and The Royal Proclamation 1763 which guaranteed hunting rights ofAmerican Indians east of Mississippi

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 15 2022 12:22 utc | 360

Who messed up the comments thread?
Can’t read them on phone, only on PC.
A big link or something that stretched out the screen?

Posted by: Laura Roslin | Mar 15 2022 12:36 utc | 361

USA will never compromise its hegemonic autonomy for agreements with regional entities
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 15 2022 12:22 utc | 353

Latin America is Rejecting U.S. Assistance

Latin America and the Caribbean is partnering with China on multi-billion dollar development projects and while turning down assistance offered by the United States.
21 of 31 countries of the region, both friends and foes of Washington alike, have joined the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) to the dismay of U.S. lawmakers. Congressional Representative Lisa McClain sought an explanation for the phenomenon at this week’s House Armed Services Committee hearing on National Security Challenges and Military Activity in North and South America.
McClain, a Republican representing Michigan, remarked on the failure of the U.S. Build Act (2018), which had been introduced in an attempt by Congress to counteract China’s BRI.
McClain described a scenario of refusal of the Build Act in her questioning of Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense, Melissa Dalton:
“As far as I can tell, and I may be incorrect, but there seems to be little interest by the underdeveloped nations to utilize the U.S. Build Act over China. Why do you think these nations have been so hesitant to utilize the U.S. to help fund their initiatives?”
“We’re offering help.. and they’re not taking it. So when I talk.. it’s like we need to provide assistance. We need to provide assistance. We need to provide assistance. Then we provide assistance and they don’t want it. So, is that really the issue or is there something I’m missing?”

The bloom is off the rose for American assistance.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2022 12:44 utc | 362

Posted by: Dadda | Mar 15 2022 4:19 utc | 284
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China has a good track record of dealing with speculators. Something the global financial markets definitely need.

Posted by: financial matters | Mar 15 2022 12:53 utc | 363

Something the global financial markets definitely need.
Posted by: financial matters | Mar 15 2022 12:53 utc | 356

That is going to re-price London real estate.
Guangzhou R&F sells London’s Vauxhall Square at 42 per cent discount to valuation, posting an ‘unheard of’ loss in desperate move to pare debt
The ratings agencies will catch up later.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2022 13:08 utc | 364

Debsisdead @322
anarchism basically states that any authority should be legitimate, hence without coersion.
“unless you are very rich, very powerful & don’t give a shit about yer fellow humans”
if there is one system that respects “yer fellow humans” that is beyond question is anarchism

Posted by: dersu-uzala | Mar 15 2022 13:27 utc | 365

Alexey Arestovich, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky: “I believe, most likely, we’ll have a peace agreement by May, in early May, or maybe even earlier. We’ll see how it goes.”
https://twitter.com/BhadraPunchline/status/1503716974198927361?cxt=HHwWgsDRnd-no94pAAAA
Ze is in no position for a peace agreement. Ukrainian security forces are under such a tight grip from the nationalists, that any kind of agreement that meets Russian demands would be considered treason by them. And they control the guns. It wouldnt matter, if Ukrainian society agreed to Russian demands in exchange for peace.
So Russia will slowly walk through Eastern Ukraine, until there is nothing left for Ze to negotiate. To have some kind of wiggle room, Ze actually needs Russia to purge these nationalist elements. I cant see Russian troops leaving Ukraine any time soon. Russia wont annex Ukraine, but will control its part.
The outcome: I can see something along the lines of how Germany was controlled by the allied forces after WW2 without a peace agreement: An effective partition of Ukraine in anything but legal terms. A frozen conflict. Then its just a matter of time that both sides grow apart and form their own identities. National identity is fluid, especially with Ukraine, a state that has no distinct history and was formed on the remnants of the Russian Empire.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 15 2022 13:34 utc | 366

Interesting bit of analysis on SF:

The number of Russian armed forces in Ukraine is objectively insufficient for fast and decisive flank coverage and encirclement of dones of thousands of UAF troops on fortified positions. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation was forced to change its initial tactics of “cavalry charge” to the systematic destruction of enemy forces and means using its advantage in aviation and artillery.
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So Russia is spread a bit thin – has to chose on which front to press.
Seems like eastern Ukraine is pretty well disrupted at this point. Zelensky wearing shabby clothes and stopped shaving in show of unity with the people suffering.
Im estimating that on spinal tap gauge of pain (relative):
US: 1.5
RF: 3.5
EU: 3.0(rising)
Uk: 8.0/4.0 east/west
CN: -1.5

Posted by: jared | Mar 15 2022 13:38 utc | 367

“American assistance” accept now and get this fabulous new American cookbook “To Serve Man”.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 15 2022 13:54 utc | 368

Zelensky “pleads with Russian soldiers to surrender” = he is remembering that he is primarily a comedian.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 15 2022 13:56 utc | 369

The national socialist Tulsi Gabbard will step into the breach and make the Nobel committee rescind Obomba’s peace prize before she accepts hers.
Posted by: reante | Mar 14 2022 22:16 utc | 199
You keep saying this, but I think that you are wrong. The anti-interventionist/populist movement in the US will be very effectively hamstrung by the total media supremacy enjoyed by the neoliberal establishment wings of both parties. The neoconservatives are going to enjoy a comeback politically; they are already claiming their philosophy has been justified by recent events, and the corporate media is not contesting that position.
There will be some Americans who see through all this bullshit but not nearly enough to enable the election of somebody as universally vilified by both parties’ establishments as Gabbard. The most likely outcome for the 2024 election is a neocon-aligned, interventionist Republican; the next likely outcome is a neocon-aligned, interventionist Democrat. I am unsure whether Biden will even run. I mean either Klobuchar, Harris, or Buttygig.

Posted by: WJ | Mar 15 2022 14:16 utc | 370

@ Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 15 2022 13:34 utc | 359
I would say thats fair analysis, but would you say that partition equates to de-miltarize and de-natzify? Or are you thinking that Russia will aquiecse, pick up the pieces and accept verbal promise from Sulivan or maybe Biden as that would hardly be enforceable.
Bullet points, man – keep your eye on the objective.
National leaders dont just change their mind.
Anyway perhaps a slow grind work in Russias favor for de-nazification purposes. Not sure how the combatants feel about it.
Kind of interesting the aspect of handing siezed javelins to dpr/lpr. Seems like maybe Russia is upper their game in the media space – dont underestimate the importance of popular support.
We live in a Shroedinger world – except we rely on others to tell us what is in the box and those people are known to be unreliable. This is why people stop paying attention – its not exactly ignorance.

Posted by: jared | Mar 15 2022 14:28 utc | 371

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 15 2022 6:01 utc | 300
…”right-wing” anarchist following Austrian Economic Theory…
Again, many words to sugarcoat an admission of being a sociopathic piece of shit.
Also his acknowledgement that property means nothing without enforcement resonates with the individualist anarchist part of me. That is a reality that people that live in the midst of vague concepts like property, morality, ethics, etc. just can’t understand.
Lol, seriously, you’re a goddamn piece of shit.
What exactly makes you think that being ethically challenged puts you above common mortal intellect?
Particularly, to the point of making the absurd claim that being capable of engaging in ethical reasoning, somehow renders anybody unable to understand the extremely elementary notion of property being a moot point without any sort of enforcement?
An assertion that can be extended to pretty much anything conceived as a right, by the way.
My alternative hypothesis is that being ethically impaired also makes you intellectually challenged, particularly in having an inflated perception of your own reasoning abilities, as evidenced by your laughable ideological (political) proclamations.
On top of that you’re also misappropriating anarchism, a tendency that’s not mine, but most certainly not yours either.

Posted by: Misotheist | Mar 15 2022 14:29 utc | 372

@jared #350
The Russian military deployed in Ukraine is still a fraction of the Ukrainian military, overall, prior to the “military police operation”.
So why is it surprising that they are concentrating on one cauldron at a time? Particularly when that cauldron hold 1/3 to 1/2 of the AFU?

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 15 2022 14:42 utc | 373

More echoes of sanctions/”military police operation” economic impacts
How the global fertilizer shortage is going to affect food on nakedcapitalism

The Haber-Bosch process, which converts nitrogen and hydrogen into ammonia as a crucial step in creating fertilizers, uses between 1% and 2% of all energy generated globally by some estimates. Consequently, the cost of producing nitrogen fertilizer is directly linked to the cost of fuel. This is why the UK price of ammonium nitrate has climbed as high as £1,000 per tonne at the time of writing, compared to £650 a week ago.
This calculation between the cost of fertilizer and the value of the crop produced – the “breakeven ratio” – is typically around six for a cereal crop (6kg of grain needed to pay for 1kg of nitrogen fertilizer), but with the rise in fertilizer prices it is currently around ten.

Russia and Ukraine are also major producers and suppliers of fertilizer and their raw materials. For example, Norwegian group Yara, the biggest producer and supplier of fertilizer in Europe, makes much of its product in Ukraine. Reducing western trade with Russia, and the disrupted supply lines in Ukraine, will therefore add another layer of pressure to the production and supply of fertilizer.
Russia is responsible for nearly a tenth of global nitrogen fertilizer production. Russia also has a comparable share of phosphate fertilizer and together with Belarus around a third of potash production, though in many cases these are not applied to soil every year and have much lower energy costs, so will have less of an immediate impact on yields and food production.
Vladimir Putin has explicitly been connecting the disruption to the trade in fertilizers with a coming surge in food prices. The Russians have just announced a suspension in fertilizer exports to the west. With major markets in Brazil, China and the US for Russian ferilisers, these global suppliers of grains to the world will be impacted.
Ukraine is also a huge agricultural producer in its own right, supplying significant quantities of cereals and oil crops to global markets (12% of the world’s wheat and the world’s largest supplier of sunflower oil). So at a time when many crops in Ukraine are due to be sown or those already in the ground are expecting fertilizer and pesticides, disruptions will put further pressure on this year’s harvest and lead to higher food prices. At particular risk from reductions in Ukrainian and Russian grain supplies are Egypt, Turkey and Bangladesh.

Note the 6 to 10 ratio is probably using an overall fertilizer price increase; in the US, fertilizer prices have gone up almost 4x vs. last year and in Europe, the ratio is well over 10x. Thus the “break even” ratio is probably higher.
What is not clear from this article is what the impact of using less fertilizer is. Since the author is UK and specifically quotes 650 GBP to 1000+ GBP vs. ratio increase of 6 to 10, it seems possible that we are looking at a directly ratio – in which case we are talking about basically farmers looking to grow without fertilizer at all for the 400% to 1000%+ fertilizer price increases in the legacy zone (US and EU).
My WAG estimate for food price increases was 100% (i.e. double) in the US and 200% (i.e. triple) in the EU, but maybe this is even conservative.
Anyone who has info on how much crop yield is increased by “typical” fertilizer use – please post.

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 15 2022 14:51 utc | 374

RT:
“Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki and Deputy Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski, Czech Prime Minister Petr Fiala, and Slovenian Prime Minister Janez Jansa arrived in Ukraine and are headed to Kiev, the Polish PM’s office announced on Tuesday.”
Asking for trouble?

Posted by: RJB | Mar 15 2022 15:00 utc | 375

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 15 2022 8:59 utc | 322
That is a very good point,Debsisdead, although my situation is different. I’m certainly pro-individual, queer codger that I am, but I love being close to (and in effect part of) the native community nearby. I own my little house; they own the land it sits on. That is fine for me, as I don’t really figure anyone really can own land – we have it in trust, part of the grand world we all try to take care of as best we can. So it is for the native community, which has been here much longer than I have.
With respect to the title of this thread, I would say that in the past few days the word ‘false flag’ has taken on a new meaning, much as has the word ‘sanction’. But back to your point, we ought also to be aware of the ‘false friends’ among us, as there are opportunities within that category. I think most barstool occupiers are becoming quite as savvy as those we have learned to admire on that very point. b has been an excellent tutor on this subject.
Well done, everyone.

Posted by: juliania | Mar 15 2022 15:08 utc | 376

@ Posted by: c1ue | Mar 15 2022 14:42 utc | 366
I did not say it is surprising.
However for me given my limited info or perspective, I found it revealing. I felt that the size of the Russian force was small relative to the importance and scope of the objective, but was not seeing that noted in widespread discussion. Except now there is a statement claiming the Russia does not have at hand resources to implement successful assault on Kiev (I assume discounting a Yogoslavia like strategy).
However I have also seen comment that the Ukraine resistance may collapse suddenly if Russia can impede c&oke off access to fuel, food, etc.

Posted by: jared | Mar 15 2022 15:13 utc | 377

“The nightmare scenario for India would be if the U.S. comes to the conclusion that it confronts a greater threat from Russia and that this justifies a strategic accommodation with China.
Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2022 11:58 utc | 351
even setting aside the fact that it was mao who approached the nixon administration and not vice versa, there are no Nixons or kissingers or a y adults in the US ruling establishment today who can reverse the current idiocy of taking on both Russia and china together.
and even if a leader of caliber fell from the sky, he would lack the political capital to befriend or accomodate either Russia or china. (the economic decline or collapse in the years ahead will mean no administration can deliver on their lofty campaign promises.) and there simply has been too much propaganda spread against china that any possibility of a course correction has been foreclosed. in that respect, the disinformation campaigns have shackled the space for any US administration to maneuver. probably that is by design by the deep state, as some new provocation always occurs whenever bilateral relations show signs of deescalation.
so I guess India need not worry haha. though the truth of it is they should be concerned, not with who is on the US’ hit list, but with the fact that siding with the US necessarily means a loss of sovereignty.
are there any voices in India who still speak of non alignment and are taken seriously?

Posted by: mastameta | Mar 15 2022 15:19 utc | 378

Latest from SST:
https://turcopolier.com/russia-may-only-have-14-days/

Posted by: morongobill | Mar 15 2022 15:21 utc | 379

@jared #370
Consider this: Russia certainly need to protect itself against the possibility of a direct attack by the US/NATO.
The 1st Tank Guard Army is not in Ukraine precisely for this reason.
Secondly, Russia apparently doesn’t think it needs to throw all its ready forces into Ukraine in order to achieve its objectives (whatever they are).
While this is probably closer to the scalpel vs. the hammer method of winning – typically risky – the results so far seem to justify the scalpel approach as having been successful.
Anyway, I don’t give much credibility to any western analyst who claims that Russia is behind plan. This is idiotic because they don’t know what the plan is – how can they say Russia is behind?
Equally, I don’t give much credibility to any western analyst who says Russia doesn’t have enough force. The Western method is to bomb flat and then machine gun the ruins; Russia has clearly used different methods, evolved in Chechnya, Syria, Georgia – so again hard to see how Western dogs can accurately critique Russian cats, so to speak.
The handful of Western analysts that have some degree of real analytical capability use real world examples and data – the talking head numbskulls just yell really loud.

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 15 2022 15:33 utc | 380

“For several decades, President Putin has been bearing in mind our colleagues’ concerns, even the Americans, and had been asking to [them] to take our concerns into consideration. For 20 years, these concerns have been ignored and President Putin along with our country were faced with a fait accompli. When such an attitude is replaced with a constructive approach, I have no doubt that our president will demonstrate the corresponding political will,” Peskov stressed.
Posted by: Kim | Mar 15 2022 11:55 utc | 350
I have no doubt either, Kim; thank you! When Russia was forced to rebuild its weaponry, the emphasis always was that it was only doing so (and facing some sacrifices) because the west would only operate on that level. This is very different from a cold war confrontation; and the west took advantage of this generous stance for a very long period, while Russia did what it was forced to do, and did it better, to be better than they in order to bring sense back — if you like, it is a warm war, not a cold one!

Posted by: juliania | Mar 15 2022 15:47 utc | 381

WJ 370
Ye have little faith so far in a nobody named reante having grocked their most excellent collapse management plan. Somebody had to, right? I don’t doubt there are others who are figuring it out in other languages.
I keep saying it because it bears repeating until it begins to click for one other person here, then two, then a dozen. Because that’s when the ‘fun’ will begin. And the teamwork.
As it is there’s little to no teamwork here. Mostly what there is here regarding a worldview is a stale, politicized, and anti-imperialist Left-libertarian/trad conservative political orientation, otherwise known, in umbrella terminology, as national socialism, with a fairly poor grasp of numerous categories of fundamentals. With the notable exception of a few commenters.
I’m here to help the commentariat see. Not to see what I see, but to see at all, beyond the ideological prison. Few here will try and say that they are not ideological. Ideologies are boxes. Boxing in the mind is totalitarianism in action. We do it to ourselves.
To your point regarding future US politics remaining the same ol same ol, WJ: how do you square what you see will be the collapse of the petrodollar with what you believe will be the continuation of the petrodollar political establishment? How does the neolib/neocon petrodollar establishment exist without the petrodollar? That would be like expecting that Leonid Brezhnev, had he lived to the age of 85, to do a 180 in the mid-1980s and suddenly implement Mikhail Gorbachev’s glasnost and perestroika, and beyond that, it would be to expect Brezhnev, had he lived to 90, to be the one to oversee the post- peak oil privatization instead of the punch-drunk Yeltsin!
It doesn’t work that way…
The reason Putin and Xi can manage both sides of this global, inverted perestroika is because for them the destination (socialism) is a political homecoming.
The US is going through a compressed version of the USSR collapse (the whole world is going through a compressed version), because the USSR which became Russia was able to prop itself up with Globalism until privatization was complete and it was absorbed into Globalism. The US (and the world) has no such crutch to prop itself up with during the restructuring. Which is why within the last week here we can all see the rationing of food coming. The rationing will lead to chronic malnutrition which is the precursor to famine. The elite will use the bioweapon fears seeded during the fake plandemic as political cover for the famines. They will falsely blame famine-related disease and death on ‘viruses’ and anaerobes.
The predictive programming for it can be seen in Lt Col Gabbard’s re-emergence into the mainstream consciousness over the last 48hrs. Right now, the Hawaiian Punch is having her coming out party 2.0, and has already started the housecleaning and called on the most recent neocon top-dog Mitt Romney to resign. And she’s going for Hillary’s jugular. And she has the top 4 news media celebrities in her corner. And she is the only person speaking the truth during a time when the polls say 12% of people trust congress to do a good job.
What’s it gonna take for you to let go of the hurt, WJ, and start seeing clearly?
My brother.

Posted by: reante | Mar 15 2022 17:08 utc | 382

“Majority of US Republican Senators Vow to Not Back New Nuclear Deal With Iran.”
Posted by: Laurence | Mar 15 2022 3:54 utc | 288

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Mar 15 2022 18:07 utc | 383

Who messed up the comments thread?
Can’t read them on phone, only on PC.
A big link or something that stretched out the screen?
Posted by: Laura Roslin | Mar 15 2022 12:36 utc | 361
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Same here, had to don my +2.50 readers. Probably those Russian hackers again:-)

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Mar 15 2022 18:49 utc | 384

https://t.me/intelslava/22446
Caption says Brit, but he’s either American or (shudder) Canadian. At least he’s offering better advice now. Stay the fuck home!

Posted by: Macmuir | Mar 15 2022 19:33 utc | 385

c1ue | Mar 15 2022 14:51 utc | 374 Anyone who has info on how much crop yield is increased by “typical” fertilizer use – please post.
Partly depends on the soil. Old weathered and leached soils contain very little in the way of minerals. Generally now with modern farming, soil analysis give the mineral profile and minerals are added according to the needs of the crop to be planted. By rotating crops, a legume crop can be used to add or fix nitrogen to the soil. Some very rich soils may just need nitrogen and there depending on the crop as to how much lower the yields are nitrogen is needed for the leafy growth which takes in carbon from the air.
Also areas that are cropped constantly need far more fertilizer, whereas areas that may be alternated between grazing and cropping require less fertilizer for the crop.
I guess depending on the soil and crop on average allow for yield losses of anything from 25% to no yield.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2022 20:20 utc | 386

As to lying in the mainstream media about wars, I have never seen anyone comment about Afghanistan. The US military gets defeated by poorly trained, badly supplied, ill fed irregular militias. They don’t even make it to the airport and the Afghan government collapses.
In order to achieve this outcome, pretty much the whole of US society has to lie and mostly keep lying across 20 years – the Pentagon, the White House, Congress, various generals, the media. That’s a rather extreme amount of lying. Add to this the whole WMD hoax in Iraq.
OTOH, I do wonder if the 14 or 10 days til Russian defeat is quite helpful. Why bother with a no fly zone or new weapons or why do anything to help Ukraine? A couple of weeks and they’ll win, right?

Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 15 2022 20:42 utc | 387

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Mar 15 2022 3:55 utc | 289

Some of the things that strike me most about the Nuland-Pyatt conversation:
-the cocksure lingo “gain altitude”, “midwife this thing”;
-Pyatt’s obsequiousness;
-the presumptuous specificity (e.g. the number of times a week ‘Yats’ should talk with people);
-the implication of how manipulable the Ukrainians are (e.g. they will do things based on how much of a big shot tells them to do them); and
-the close involvement/naked self-interest of Biden.

I didn’t find Pyatt obsequious. Maybe deferent. And also focused on the project he is helping engineer.
The quick lingo makes it hard to tell if Nuland is being directive or simply repeating points that were hinted in previous correspondence.
In any case, and probably because I’ve always read it out of context, I’ve always understood her “fuck the Eu” as a mark of exasperation, as in “to hell with the EU!”. But that’s not it at all. She is clearly stating that the avowed objective is to screw the European Union.
To me, that stolen bit of conversation summarizes perfectly the cynical game the US is playing.

Posted by: robin | Mar 15 2022 20:45 utc | 388

Jared @ 377
“…. now there is a statement claiming the Russia does not have at hand resources to implement successful assault on Kiev.. ”
Russia clearly does possess the resources to assault and occupy Kiev and Ukraine. They have barely committed 30% of their total frontline military force. The question you should be asking yourself is why it hasn’t committed those resources and what, if any, further military objectives it is considering that will require having those additional resources in reserve.
Perhaps think back to the demands made in the Russian ultimatums of December and recall that they not only want to achieve “demilitarisation” and “denazification” of Ukraine but to push NATO back to it’s 1997 borders.

Posted by: thermobarbaric | Mar 15 2022 22:40 utc | 389

This post at nakedcapitalism.com is a very good background piece to give us all a glimpse of what the Russian people face as the sanction regime comes into play, along with a preliminary realization of what the west is facing as well. I found it very thought provoking, and the comments are worth reading as well — it is not a long read. Sorry to have it here in truncated form, but it is easy to find on the opening listings as well, if you simply go there:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/
2022/03/an-american-in-siberia-gives-a-preliminary-assessment-of-the-impact-of-sanctions-on-russia.html
My thought is that the Russians, having been here before, are much better prepared than we in the west may be. [I plan to plant my potatoes tomorrow. And I will blow the dust off my copy of The Shock Doctrine as well.]

Posted by: juliania | Mar 16 2022 2:13 utc | 390

‎EARLIER, IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THE EAEU (ECONOMIC COOPERATION ORGANIZATION AMONG FORMER SOVIET UNION MEMBERS) AND CHINA REACHED AN AGREEMENT ON MARCH 11 TO JOINTLY ESTABLISH A “NEW INTERNATIONAL MONETARY AND FINANCIAL SYSTEM”, WITH A SYNTHETIC CURRENCY AT THE HEART OF THE PLAN. A DAY EARLIER, WANG YI AND THE FOREIGN MINISTERS OF EU COUNTRIES HAD A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION TO DISCUSS COORDINATED MEDIATION OF THE EU-RUSSIA DISPUTE, CHOOSING FRANCE AND ITALY, BUT NOT GERMANY.
Starting point of the collapse of petroleum-dollar system.

Posted by: HZ | Mar 16 2022 5:10 utc | 391

@robin (388)

In any case, and probably because I’ve always read it out of context, I’ve always understood [Nuland’s] “fuck the Eu” as a mark of exasperation, as in “to hell with the EU!”. But that’s not it at all. She is clearly stating that the avowed objective is to screw the European Union.

Come to think of it, every time the EU does something stupid that symptomizes its subservience to the USA, there’d be a likely someone in the comments section (at one point it was RT and Sputnik) who would quote Nuland’s “F*** the EU” as if it’s something he/she agrees with her on (some even admit this). I’ve seen it uttered even from those commentators who are otherwise critical of the US neocons in general.
Ironically, if I’m not mistaken, she said that in response to the EU being insufficiently subservient. I don’t know about the rest of you guys/gals, but to me it reeks of hypocrisy every time Nuland is conveniently quoted as if she were a moral woman.
Why do we take advice from this neoconservative witch (particularly one who spearheaded (?) the 2014 coup d’etat in Ukraine) in the first place?

Posted by: joey_n | Mar 16 2022 9:29 utc | 392

@Peter AU1 #386
Thank you.
What do you think could be the possible range of results for the industrialized farms in the US and EU?
And for the near=foreign suppliers like Mexico or Chile for the US?
Is it the same 25% to (high, not sure about 100%) loss?

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 16 2022 14:03 utc | 393