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March 31, 2022

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Jonathan Alexander @SalomonLindros - 11:15 UTC · Mar 31, 2022

Replying to @MoonofA
Takes some really fat fingers to get from we to they. Even on a phone.

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"British sanctions on Russian media, including RT, interfere with the right of journalists to work where they please, Stephane Dujarric, the spokesman for UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres, told journalists on Thursday.
Well, since I'm on a German kick: Na, das hat ja gedauert! -- Well, that sure took a while!

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 1 2022 14:57 utc | 301

Also, NATO continuing to incrementally feed the conflict:

* Germany sending 50pcs of ancient BMP-1's (again via Cassad telegram)
* UK to send "long range artillery" and/or precision artillery ammunition, and unspecified APC/IFV's (various english language tabloid press, citing the UK Defence Secratary)

One imagines more Mi-8 and Mi-24 helo's would be obtained from NATO members - although their life expectancy in frontline work against RF air defenses seems to be about 1-3 missions based on recent events, so it's not clear if NATO members would feel like it's worth it to part with this hardware, which unlike most of the other donations, is actually very useful in peacetime.

Posted by: ptb | Apr 1 2022 14:58 utc | 302

Ukrainian troops treatment of Russian prisoners which amounts to war crimes could be covered up with the help of the UK government, and other Western nations.

"Kiev has asked British and other Western nations to help in relieving the pressure it has come under over the mistreatment of Russian prisoners of war, Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) said on Friday. Moscow believes Ukraine is in damage control mode after footage of the alleged torture of Russian soldiers in Ukrainian custody became public.

The Ukrainian government has informed Britain that “it has no intention to abide by the Geneva conventions when treating Russian prisoners of war,” the Russian spy agency claimed. In particular, Kiev informed London that it was not going to “offer enough food and medical assistance” to Russian captives at a time “when many Ukrainians lack them,” "

"Human rights groups such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have criticized Kiev for its policy of exposing Russian soldiers to ‘public curiosity’, in some cases while being humiliated."

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 1 2022 15:02 utc | 303

@malenkov 293

The "good guys" did it, too.

Posted by: aquileia | Apr 1 2022 15:02 utc | 304

EU Natgas

Checking in on the TTF futures strip -- front month down about 10% for the day, later on this year down marginally. Basically nothing new in the eyes of this market.

Posted by: ptb | Apr 1 2022 15:02 utc | 305

https://t.me/readovkanews/29802

Ukraine has suspended the recruitment of mercenaries to the "international military legion"

According to the National Post, the reasons for this are the lack of firearms and "a large number of inexperienced volunteers."

Posted by: Boo | Apr 1 2022 15:04 utc | 306

heh the Ukrainian recruitment of human shields suspended

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 1 2022 15:08 utc | 307

The metallurgy problem with replicating RD180 rocket motors is perfectly straightforward. US already has equivalent alloys to established specs and standards. Impossible for anyone to admit or accept that the Russian equivalents are superior. Can’t reverse engineer something when you can't acknowledge it exists. Of course it is all milspec and military is the dominant customer. Procurement is utterly ossified. Mills that did their metallurgy back in 70s and 80s get to collect rent forever.

Funniest example I know is Colnago titanium bicycles back in the 90s. The US importer and distributor was Todson in New Jersey. They had a shipment of Colnago Bititans impounded by Customs. Customs is always a pain in the rear for small importers and Todson tried to get them released. Then were informed it was CIA that requested the impoundment. The bikes were made with Russian titanium and the alloy was so top secret you could not breathe that it existed. Exact same bikes with exact same materials had been built and sold for years But that was without cognizance of the national security implications. The national security implications of f—-king bicycles.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 1 2022 15:10 utc | 308

Re: DNR casaulty figures

more upstream source (Russian language)

https://ombudsman-dnr.ru/obzor-soczialno-gumanitarnoj-situaczii-slozhivshejsya-na-territorii-doneczkoj-narodnoj-respubliki-vsledstvie-voennyh-dejstvij-v-period-s-26-marta-po-01-aprelya-2022-g/

(via anna-news telegram)

Posted by: ptb | Apr 1 2022 15:10 utc | 309

@Boo 299

Lack of firearms, that's funny. I guess they shouldn't have handed them all out to civilians.

Posted by: aquileia | Apr 1 2022 15:12 utc | 310

Thank you, karlof1 @ 162 - comprehensive post! I loved the Pushkin, and Escobar is always a delight. Here's again the final quote from Lavrov in China, would make a lovely inscription on a Jefferson-type memorial to him:

"“A new reality is being formed: the unipolar world is irrevocably becoming a thing of the past, a multipolar one is taking shape. It’s an objective process. It’s unstoppable.

In this reality, more than one power will “rule” – it will be necessary to negotiate between all the key states that today have a decisive influence on the world economy and politics.

At the same time, realizing their special situation, these countries ensure compliance with the basic principles of the UN Charter, including the fundamental one – the sovereign equality of states.

No one on this Earth should be seen as a minor player. Everyone is equal and sovereign.”

Posted by: juliania | Apr 1 2022 15:12 utc | 311

https://t.me/mig41/15908


[Forwarded from 🇺🇦 UKRAINE / Open Ukraine news war 24/7]
APPEAL TO RESIDENTS OF THE SOUTH-EAST, especially Donbass (living in the territories controlled by Bandera)

We always say what we think is true, no matter how hard it sounds. Today we urge you to leave your homes and leave in any safe direction.

We think that the battle for the liberation of Donbass will be difficult, the Nazis will hide in cities and will hide behind civilians. It is necessary to snatch this trump card from their hands. We admit that the most modern types of non-nuclear weapons can be used against Bandera's entrenched in urban development. There may be casualties among civilians. The most correct solution is evacuation

In this post, we are not joking, and we consider it important to warn as many people as possible about the impending danger. We ask you to take care of yourself and your loved ones and move to a safe place!

@OpenUkraine

Posted by: Boo | Apr 1 2022 15:15 utc | 312

> Posted by: malenkov | Apr 1 2022 14:55 utc | 293

There was, and there also was transportation of subway cars from Berlin to Moscow (which DDR for some weird reason did not rebuilt and in some fronde-like stubborness until the end of USSR used ancient clearly derelict cars that did not mathed the stations platforms).

However there are for example memories of Japanese POW where he described who they were rebuilding demolished cities side by said with Soviet citizens, and then, 5 years later, were moved back to Japan. Full compensation would mean Axis powers citizens doing all the work to rebuilt what they destroyed and only let go after EVERYTHING was rebuilt no matter how many years that would took. And then on top of those compensation (which would merely restore Soviet status quo ante bellum) there should had been an extra punishment fined.

Well, just consider how thoroughly Germany was fined after WW1 (when Europe did not had to match Germans against Germans and appease them) and after WW2 (when they did).

Another thing... there was some woman, some minor poet or writer, don't remember her name. Anti-soviet woman perhaps. She had some memories about her living in some small town near Moscow in post-war 1940-s. And among her failing love life in those diary there were scenes about woman plowing lands on themselves (no cattle, no tractors) and how it ruined their uteruses. About teachers who has no food (impossible to buy in official shops after workday time) nor decent clothes (all the money they could make went to black market for food), and being reprimnanded for failing the honorable image of soviet teacher. And all that interspersed with then MSM parading Soviet noble generosity in supplying food and rebuilding infrastructure in DDR and Poland.

Well, her diaries can be just brushed off for being made by a bitter and depressed anti-Soviet person. Yet...

http://turbryansk.ru/?page_id=590

and at the same time, August 1945 and further (granted, the #1 beneficiary was Poland, but other to be Soviet Block nations - East Germany, Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia - had their share too).

https://tvzvezda.ru/news/201710310838-ykvg.htm
https://history.wikireading.ru/322172
https://nstarikov.ru/pochemu-sssr-45-let-bezvozmezdno-pomogal-polshe-117438
https://libmonster.ru/m/articles/view/%D0%A1%D0%9E%D0%92%D0%95%D0%A2%D0%A1%D0%9A%D0%90%D0%AF-%D0%9F%D0%9E%D0%9C%D0%9E%D0%A9%D0%AC-%D0%9F%D0%9E%D0%9B%D0%AC%D0%A8%D0%95-%D0%9D%D0%90-%D0%97%D0%90%D0%9A%D0%9B%D0%AE%D0%A7%D0%98%D0%A2%D0%95%D0%9B%D0%AC%D0%9D%D0%9E%D0%9C-%D0%AD%D0%A2%D0%90%D0%9F%D0%95-%D0%92%D0%95%D0%9B%D0%98%D0%9A%D0%9E%D0%99-%D0%9E%D0%A2%D0%95%D0%A7%D0%95%D0%A1%D0%A2%D0%92%D0%95%D0%9D%D0%9D%D0%9E%D0%99-%D0%92%D0%9E%D0%99%D0%9D%D0%AB

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 1 2022 15:29 utc | 313

@Abe | Apr 1 2022 14:18 utc | 279

"I finally realized why Russian use Latin alphabet Z,V,O on their vehicles and not Cyrillic letters.

"They are trolling westerners and have weaponized Latin letters. Noone is using Cyrillic in west, but Latin? Yes, you can bet. Damn Russkies just killed 2 letters, 20 something more to go..."

Not only striking a deathblow to the dollar, but to Scrabble and Wheel of Fortune as well. The US oligarchy will be unable to control the lower classes without Bread and Circuses!!

Posted by: Vintage Red | Apr 1 2022 15:36 utc | 314

Today, the west forced Putin to renounce Rubles for oil, and he accepted orders to pack up Russian military and leave the borderlands. He has also accepted to break up Russia into six states, under the tutelage of the west, ending Russia as we know it. Russians and Russian language and heritage will now be banned across the board. Cancelled forever. All Russian commodities and raw resources are now fair game.
Oops, it’s April first. Much wishful thinking in the west.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 1 2022 15:47 utc | 315

detail on German BMP's:

https://en.topwar.ru/194309-germanija-odobrila-postavku-ukraine-boevyh-mashin-pehoty-pbv-501.html

Additional search result on PbV-501 (BMP-1 derivative):

https://dan.wikitrans.net/BMP-1?redir=Pbv+501

Posted by: ptb | Apr 1 2022 15:52 utc | 316

Germany has approved delivery of 56 combat tanks to Ukraine, a German Defense Ministry spokeswoman told CNN. The tanks are from the Cold War-era East German army and had been sold to Sweden, then resold to the Czech Republic who will deliver them to Ukraine.
I have no idea what they are trying to achieve. Given that Russia has destroyed more than 1000 Ukrainian tanks so far, are 56 new ones going to turn the war around?

Posted by: aquileia | Apr 1 2022 15:55 utc | 317

@ malenkov | Apr 1 2022 14:55 utc | 293
LE DÉMONTAGE D'USINES EN ALLEMAGNE 1945-1949
The question is really interesting in today's world, if we consider the Russian SMO in Ukraine as prehentive of WW III.

As far as I know, it was rather the French who distinguished themselves in their "zone of occupation" , bordering France.
The mechanism, as it was defined was an operation of demilitarization (and in the context of denazification.) ;-)
The Russian method in Ukraine seems more radical.
Only "démontages" [Disassembly].

Here are some explanations from the French newspaper "Le Monde" in 1948, when the German civilian population started to be able to protest against an abusive and somewhat genocidal policy of the French occupiers.


Le Monde
Published 27 août 1948, Deepl translated

The [French] Ministry of Foreign Affairs believes that it is necessary to recall the elements of the problem of reparations, and to make known the current state of the question in the following update:

The present system of reparations is the result of the Potsdam agreements of 1945. These agreements provide for the delivery for reparations of industrial equipment that is not necessary for the German economy. Since the German economy had been developed to an enormous extent for the war effort, and since the destruction caused by military operations had been practically limited, there was a considerable surplus of equipment in Germany, in view of the needs of a peacetime economy.
The list of factories available for reparations was therefore to be drawn up according to the determination of a peace level for German industry, a task which the Potsdam agreements had entrusted to the Control Council. Thus, in 1946, a level of industry was established that allowed the delivery of two thousand factories valued at 3 billion 1938 marks for reparations. Subsequently, the four allied powers recognized that this level was insufficient. The dismantling currently underway in the French zone corresponds to a first phase of this program, on which the three western powers have agreed; it also corresponds to similar dismantling already carried out in the zone.

The dismantled factories were placed at the disposal of the Interallied Reparations Agency (I.A.R.A.), whose role was limited to distributing them among all its members.
[...]

https://www.lemonde.fr/archives/article/1948/08/27/le-probleme-des-reparations-et-le-demontage-d-usines-en-allemagne_1905454_1819218.html

For a good understanding, it is necessary to know that most of the factories destroyed in Germany by the French were never rebuilt in France.

The French Wiki is correct


In July 1946, during the second CMAE[h], Georges Bidault set out France's point of view on the occupation of Germany: he declared himself in agreement with the general objectives relating to the disarmament and denazification of Germany as well as the granting of reparations to the countries that had suffered from the war, also supported by V. Molotov. On the other hand, he recalled that France's demands that the Ruhr, the Rhineland and the Saar be separated from Germany had not been taken into account at Potsdam.
The Allies wanted to protect Germany from a military revival by preventing it from re-establishing its armed forces and by ensuring that its industrial apparatus would not be able to produce military equipment again. While there is consensus on the first issue, the same cannot be said of the fate of German industry.

USUK knows better why they needed a future for German military industry.

Posted by: Bastille | Apr 1 2022 15:57 utc | 318

Posted by: aquileia | Apr 1 2022 15:55 utc | 310

well gets more Ukrainians killed using 50 year old tanks, which provides fodder for more international outrage and keeps the war going. that's the mission, keep the war going as long as possible.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 1 2022 15:59 utc | 319

@ aquileia | Apr 1 2022 15:55 utc | 310

That's not "combat tanks" but

58 Panzerkampfwagen vom Typ "PbV-501" handeln, die ursprünglich aus den Beständen der Nationalen Volksarmee (NVR) der DDR stammen.

Light and old infantry vehicles in order to have more victims.
Show must go on!
To the last Ukrainian.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMP-1

Posted by: Bastille | Apr 1 2022 16:07 utc | 320

A break from the action to examine the emergence of Xiong'an, the planned green, high tech megacity that's risen from the blueprints made 5 years ago today and is just an hour's ride via highspeed rail from Beijing. At the articles end is a series of infographics, one of which I would copy/paste if I could--"smart city."

As was said by the NY Times apologist for the Outlaw US Empire, if you want to see the future, go to China. Everything about Xiong'an is Tomorrowland.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2022 16:10 utc | 321

"No one on this Earth should be seen as a minor player. Everyone is equal and sovereign.”

Posted by: juliania | Apr 1 2022 15:12 utc | 311


I'm sorry, but this is just not true as a description of international relations. It has never been true and it will never be true.

It may be the case that some arrangements of global power are more or less coercive, more or less just relative to others, etc., but it will never be the case that states will operate as the sovereign subjects of some unwritten law of democratic liberalism, according to which all are equal insofar as each is 'sovereign.' There will always be stronger and weaker states, and the strength and weakness of states and alliances will always determine, in particular cases, what states can and do get away with vis a vis other states.

The multipolar world represents an adjustment in the arrangement or distribution of the power enjoyed by certain states. It does not represent some utopia.

Lavrov knows better.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 1 2022 16:22 utc | 322

While trying to get some info about what Russia is doing around Kiev I came across a tweet than linked to a story in "The Moscow Times" about Putin's health. In my view Moscow Times runs the "New York Times" narrative for the Russian public, Navalny is a hero and Putin is Stalin reincarnate.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/04/01/putin-accompanied-by-doctors-thyroid-cancer-surgeon-on-sochi-trips-report-a77177

A link to an interesting analysis was given in the above.
https://www.proekt.media/investigation/chem-boleet-putin/

Anyone who understands Russian may find the video in the above link interesting. True or not ? You be the judge.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 1 2022 16:47 utc | 323

@karlof1 321

I sometimes wonder what overarching strategy the West is following. After WW2, they saw to it that the economy was strong because they needed to show capitalism was superior to communism, and of course because you need a healthy economy to start new wars all the time. Today, the big competitor is China and the West doesn't want to play second fiddle to China, but I don't see them making an effort at moving jobs back from China, improving education, etc. They seem to be content with petty schemes against China (which the Chinese see through), while letting what's left of manufacturing go down the crapper, along with education and infrastructure. This doesn't seem like a viable long-term strategy to me, but maybe I'm just not seeing the genius behind it.

Posted by: aquileia | Apr 1 2022 16:58 utc | 324

WJ @322--

I disagree with your POV--it's the Animal House diktat turned inside-out. When it comes to dialog at the international level, all nations only have one voice and one vote. In terms of commerce, it's indeed true that nations aren't equally endowed. But this isn't about commerce; it's about International Law as formulated by the UN Charter that most nations adhere to and want it to continue once the Outlaws are disciplined. That's what's at the foundation for the conflict between Russia, China and their allies against the Outlaw US Empire and its vagrants--why else did Russia, China, Iran, and numerous other nations form a coalition in Defence of the UN Charter? In their Joint Declaration of 4 February, Russia and China have vowed to democratize the UN which the vast majority of nations have wanted to happen since the century began. Essentially, your POV aligns you with the Outlaw US Empire, placing you on the wrong side of history.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2022 16:58 utc | 325

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2022 16:58 utc | 325

I am on the side of Thucydides and Augustine and Hobbes. Not sure where that places me in history.

Laws in states only have force because of the state's ability and willingness to use coercive power against those who violate them. This is not the case when it comes to international law. There is no Super-State with the coercive power necessary to enforce international law. If there were such a Super-State, then this state would be the only sovereign state in existence. But there is no such Super-State.

One can argue, of course, that it is better than states work together through international agreements to settle their differences. Of course I agree with this. But even the UN, as currently constituted, recognizes the undeniable real-world difference that power differential makes, which is why there are permanent members on the Security Council, etc.

There have been multipolar worlds before the one currently being prophesied by many. From the fact that there is a multipolar world, it follows that there are multiple POLES or ORIENTATIONS of major influence and power, not that every state in such a world enjoys practical equality with and independence from every other. This has never been the case and will never be the case.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 1 2022 17:27 utc | 326

aquileia @324--

Thanks for your reply! The West today is being run into the ground by following the dogma of Neoliberalism, which is all about gaining and keeping control via fascist financial capitalism which is 100% Zero-sum. Hudson has well described how it works in his many papers, interviews, and books, in particular Killing the Host. The emerging Eurasian Bloc is adopting the political-economy practiced by Russia and China--People Centered Development--that aims at keeping finance chained to support only that endeavor instead of pursuing financial gains for their own sake that are almost always detrimental to the goals of the established political economy. Long ago, one of the USA's top capitalists, Andrew Carnegie, wrote an essay, The Gospel of Wealth, in an attempt to convince his fellow Gilded Age Robber Barons that it was their moral duty to return their wealth to the community from which it came. As we know, his message wasn't heeded, which is one big reason why the West is in such a mess. The philosophy that what makes the Big Man is how his wealth/efforts uplifts his society has long been trampled underfoot by the Greed is Good school that's promoted by the game of Monopoly and its kin from a very young age. As parents, we tell our children that sharing is caring, yet they learn that's a lie quickly when exposed to life.

The communal philosophy of the East is superior to the individual philosophy of the West, and now that most things are equal that's being shown to be true. The West's actively fought becoming communal since 1789 with varying degrees of savagery, most recently since 1945. How much longer it continues that Crusade is unknown, but it must eventually become communal when resource depletion enforces the adoption of steady-state economies onto humanity within 100 years.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2022 17:27 utc | 327

WJ @326--

Ah yes, Hobbes. No, a super-state isn't required IF humanity evolves to the point where adherence to the Law is seen as a virtue and THE path to the betterment of humanity. Currently, most of humanity agrees with me; only the West resists.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2022 17:32 utc | 328

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2022 17:32 utc | 328

This is not only a utopian view, it is, as formulated, incoherent:

"IF humanity evolves to the point where adherence to the Law is seen as a virtue and THE path to the betterment of humanity."

The virtuous do not need law in the first place. Law is there for those people who need a coercive threat to get them to act reasonably. That's most of us.

An international arena of the sort you describe would not be one that followed international law, it would be one in which there was no need for international law at all.

But, in any case, it is a utopian belief that humanity will "evolve" in such a direction. Literally the entirety of human history says otherwise.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 1 2022 17:43 utc | 329

Ok sorry for offtopic but seriously, TEST.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 1 2022 17:58 utc | 330

Posted by: WJ | Apr 1 2022 17:43 utc | 329

But, in any case, it is a utopian belief that humanity will "evolve" in such a direction. Literally the entirety of human history says otherwise.

History is a GUIDE, not a GUARANTEE (of the future).

I am a realist and therefore do not believe in any such "utopia" (Lewis Mumford's The Pentagon of Power disabused me of that notion). BUT, I think a key point that you might have missed was that Russia (and almost certainly China) indicated that NO SINGLE nation should hold UN veto power <- THAT IS A HUGE difference. I see it as being a limiter on the concentration of power: neoliberalism was consolidating power into the hands of the few (backed by a SINGLE "national" entity- the US).

As much as I hated the b*%tard, Ronald Reagan's "Trust but verify" was advice to go forward by. I think that this is the MIDDLE GROUND between your and karl's views.

Posted by: Seer | Apr 1 2022 18:28 utc | 331

...indicated that NO SINGLE nation should hold UN veto power <- THAT IS A HUGE difference...

I agree that this is a big difference between the neoliberal order and the multipolar world (assuming it comes about).

From this difference it does not follow that every sovereign state will be equal in terms of right, as suggested by Lavrov. I am chiefly objecting to what I take to be the utopian rhetoric that often attends discussion of this emergence of a multipolar world. I of course think that, on balance, a multipolar world is likely to be better than a unipolar world--better, but also inherently more unstable, if, again, history is to be any guide.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 1 2022 18:37 utc | 332

@ Arioch, @Bastille --

Thanks for the extra information!

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 1 2022 18:38 utc | 333

Helicopters require a lot of maintenance. I wonder how well Western countries can maintain old Warsaw Pact choppers.

Posted by: Lysias | Apr 1 2022 20:40 utc | 334

Thucydides doesn't overtly take sides in the Melian Dialogue. He merely gives both sides powerful arguments. (Although I suspect that the fact that the dialogue is immediately followed by the Sicilian Expedition is meant to be ironic: Athenian hubris followed by nemesis. Similarly, Pericles's Funeral Oration is immediately followed by the Plague at Athens.)

Posted by: Lysias | Apr 1 2022 20:53 utc | 335

Posted by: WJ | Apr 1 2022 18:37 utc | 332

Thank you for the reply: I'm glad I checked back before closing out this window!

Yes, it could be said that Lavov's statement isn't all that much different than that of "we're spreading democracy and freedom!" [US/West]. But if there's no veto power at the UN then one could say that That means equality. I doubt anyone with a fully functioning brain could compare let's say China and Uganda and say they're the same, TOTALLY equal.

I'll end participating in this discussion (thank you for it) so I can focus on the latest thread...

Posted by: Seer | Apr 1 2022 20:57 utc | 336

Is there a definitive postmortem on the helicopter rescue attempt(s) at Mariupol? In searching about there are suggestions that in the latest attempt several helicopters managed to escape (with passengers) and a couple were destroyed or crashed after taking fire and that there were some survivors, but various sources seem to conflict on the exact outcome.

Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 1 2022 21:10 utc | 337

The overall point is that there're no exceptional nations just as there're no exceptional humans. What does exist are nations and humans having talents and abilities that are unmatched by their fellows, although quite often those fellows have talents and abilities of a different sort that the others lack. The best example I know of is the efficiency provided by teamwork versus that pursued by an individual. That's why communities are stronger than a collection of individuals out for their own interest and unwilling to help another in their pursuit lest it cause them to lag in theirs. The East learned the teamwork lesson long ago while the West lags far behind hindered by its pursuit of Zero-sum outcomes that ensures society loses and remains dysfunctional.

In the future, it appears likely humans will solve their energy problem, but that won't solve the problem of resource depletion and other potential problems caused by ecological Overshoot. That's why it's almost a certainty humans will need to arrange steady-state political-economies that require a very close degree of equitability to avoid conflict. That's why the goal of establishing a shared vision for all humanity is now a requirement--unless Hobbesian war is desired to exert totalitarian control.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2022 22:47 utc | 338

"...That's why the goal of establishing a shared vision for all humanity is now a requirement--unless Hobbesian war is desired to exert totalitarian control."

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2022 22:47 utc | 338

Thank you, karlof1. Sorry to be late here. It is my memory that a visit to the Jefferson Memorial in Washington, DC places the visitor in a small space, the large statue central to it, with passages from the Declaration of Independence inscribed on the inner walls. That being a vision for individual humans, I was struck by Lavrov's visionary words as they apply to nations.

As far as Hobbes' vision goes - I can only remember his describing the life of a human being as 'nasty, brutish, and short.' I would not inscribe that on any wall.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 1 2022 23:29 utc | 339

I am guessing that this is the "active" Ukraine thread so I will add the story below from AP


WASHINGTON — The U.S. Defense Department says it is providing an additional $300 million in military equipment to Ukrainian forces defending the country from Russian troops.

Pentagon press secretary John Kirby said in a statement Friday evening that the gear in the new package includes laser-guided rocket systems, unmanned aircraft, armored vehicles, night vision devices and ammunition. Also included are medical supplies, field equipment and spare parts.

Kirby said the new package “represents the beginning of a contracting process to provide new capabilities” to Ukraine, rather than delivering equipment drawn from U.S. military stockpiles.

The U.S. has provided more than $1.6 billion in security assistance since Russia’s invasion, Kirby said.

Do any not believe we are in a civilization war yet?

$1.6 billion in "security assistance" and that is just the old stuff from stockpiles so they can be replenished with more killing tools to keep the God of Mammon religious cult in power a bit longer.....

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 2 2022 5:09 utc | 340

Below is a Xinhuanet link to a well done, IMO, video about the empire biolabs in the world

Biohazard -- worrisome U.S. biolabs

Is empire going to sanction China for producing and distributing this video? It is in support of Russia.....

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 2 2022 6:21 utc | 341

adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky, Alexey Arestovich
southfront had nor 1 but 2 interviews where he praised isis torture techniques and beheadings, ahh the darlings of the moral west

Posted by: pablozz | Apr 2 2022 11:15 utc | 342

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