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March 7, 2022
To Punish Russia The ‘Liberal Order’ Attempts To Suicide Itself

Two days ago we looked at why Russia is doing what it does:

Russia understood Zelensky's remark in Munich as a threat by Ukraine to acquire nuclear weapons. It already has the expertise, materials and means to do that.

A fascist controlled government with nukes on Russia's border? This is not about Putin at all. No Russian government of any kind could ever condone that.

I believe that this credible threat, together with the artillery preparations for a new war on Donbas, was what convinced Russia's government to intervene by force.

The 'west' had failed to understand Russia's need to act. It has failed to make the necessary commitments, and accept Russia's reasonable demands, to avoid the struggle. In consequence it will now fall apart. The knee-jerk reaction to Russia's 'special military operation' in Ukraine will, as Alastair Crooke writes, lead to the end of the 'liberal order':

So Biden, finally, has his foreign policy ‘success’: Europe is walling itself off from Russia, China, and the emerging integrated Asian market. It has sanctioned itself from ‘dependency’ on Russian natural gas (without prospect of any immediate alternatives) and it has thrown itself in with the Biden project. Next up, the EU pivot to sanctioning China?

Will this last? It seems improbable. German industry has a long history for staging its own mercantile interests before wider geo-political ambitions – before, even, EU interests. And in Germany, the business class effectively is the political class and needs competitively-priced energy.

Whilst the rest of the world shows little or no enthusiasm to join with sanctions on Russia (China has ruled out sanctions on Russia), Europe is in hysteria. This will not fade quickly. The new ‘Iron Curtain’ erected in Brussels may last years.

But what of the unintended consequences to last Saturday’s ‘sanctions Blitzkrieg’: the ‘unknowable unknowns’ in Rumsfeld’s famous mantra? The unprecedented switch-off affecting a key part of the Globalist system did not download into a neutral, inert context – It developed into an emotionally hyper-charged atmosphere of Russophobia.

Now reality comes back to bite the inept minions who attempt to rule over us.


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Europe can not sustain this, Russia can:

In sum, the changes set out by von der Leyen and the EU, with surging crude oil costs, could potentially tip global markets into crisis, and set off spiraling inflation. Cost inflation created by energy costs spiraling higher and food disruptions are not so easily susceptible to monetary remedies. If the daily drama of the war in Ukraine starts to fade from public view, and inflation persists, the political cost of von der Leyen’s Saturday drama is likely to be European-wide recession.

“Since well before the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Europeans have been struggling under the weight of runaway energy bills”, OilPrice.com notes. In Germany, for some, one month’s energy costs the same as they used to pay for a whole year; in the UK the government has raised the price cap for energy bills by a whopping 54%, and in Italy a recent 40% domestic energy cost hike could now nearly double.

The New York Times describes this impact on local businesses and industries as nothing short of “frightening”, as all kinds of small businesses across Europe (prior to last week’s events) have been forced to cease their operations as energy costs outweigh profits. Large industries have not been immune to sticker shock either. “Almost two-thirds of the 28,000 companies surveyed by the Association of German Chambers of Commerce and Industry this month rated energy prices as one of their biggest business risks … For those in the industrial sector, the figure was as high as 85 percent.”

And it is not only Europe. Energy prices are based on global markets. As are the prices for many other minerals and metals which have suddenly become rare:


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The U.S. will be hit just as much as Europe. Early today oil prices in Europe hit $139 per barrel, well above last week's market close. They will increase further. Gasoline prices in the U.S. will soon hit $6-7-8 per gallon.


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The attempt by the U.S. to rush towards a new Iran deal to get Iranian oil flooding the markets has failed. Russia, together with Iran, has successfully blocked that move. Sanctions on Russia mean that Iran can not export its enriched uranium to Russia to be turned into nuclear fuel. No Iranian export of enriched uranium means no JCPOA deal. Secretary of State Blinken has failed to understand that. The supposedly ready to be signed return to the nuclear deal is now in jeopardy.

Some U.S. refineries at the south coast are designed to only process heavy oil variants. Since 2019 the U.S. has blockaded heavy oil imports from Venezuela and replaced them with imports of heavy Ural variants from Russia. It has now send too officials to Caracas to try to get Venezuela's oil flowing again. That would of course require to lift all sanctions off Venezuela and to return all confiscated companies and the gold that is owned by that country. It is not going to happen anytime soon.

High end German cars are build with aluminum from Russia. Boeing needs Russian titanium to build planes. These manufacturers will soon start to lay off people. All this while food, heating and mobility costs will increase dramatically. A deep recession combined with strong inflation will rip social cohesion apart. I do expect strong anger in the streets of Europe and the U.S. There will be riots and in consequence a strong political move to the right. The mid-term elections will destroy the Russophobic Democrats.

Michael Hudson notes the immense strategic damage the U.S. has done to itself:

The recent escalation of U.S. sanctions blocking Europe, Asia and other countries from trade and investment with Russia, Iran and China has imposed enormous opportunity costs – the cost of lost opportunities – on U.S. allies. And the recent confiscation of the gold and foreign reserves of Venezuela, Afghanistan and now Russia, along the targeted grabbing of bank accounts of wealthy foreigners (hoping to win their hearts and minds, along with recovery of their sequestered accounts), has ended the idea that dollar holdings or those in its sterling and euro NATO satellites are a safe investment haven when world economic conditions become shaky.

So I am somewhat chagrined as I watch the speed at which this U.S.-centered financialized system has de-dollarized over the span of just a year or two. The basic theme of my Super Imperialism has been how, for the past fifty years, the U.S. Treasury-bill standard has channeled foreign savings to U.S. financial markets and banks, giving dollar diplomacy a free ride. I thought that de-dollarization would be led by China and Russia moving to take control of their economies to avoid the kind of financial polarization that is imposing austerity on the United States. But U.S. officials are forcing them to overcome whatever hesitancy they had to de-dollarize.

This will not just happen with China or Russia but the whole world will over the next years turn away from the dollarized U.S. system:

Nobody thought that the postwar 1945-2020 world order would give way this fast. A truly new international economic order is emerging, although it is not yet clear just what form it will take. But “prodding the Bear” with the U.S./NATO confrontation with Russia has passed critical-mass level. It no longer is just about Ukraine. That is merely the trigger, a catalyst for driving much of the world away from the US/NATO orbit.

The next showdown may come within Europe itself as nationalist politicians seek to lead a break-away from the over-reaching U.S. power-grab over its European and other Allies to keep them dependent on U.S.-based trade and investment. The price of their continuing obedience is to impose cost-inflation on their industry while relinquishing their democratic electoral politics to subordination to America’s NATO proconsuls.

These consequences cannot really be deemed “unintended.”

All the consequences of the 'west's' reaction to Russia's move were foreseeable. It is pure recklessness and stupidity that have allowed them to take place. The 'west' will now get punished for the bad movie it has launched.


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Too bad that I don't speak Russian … It is now the place to be.

Jimmy Salford @1Fubar – 7:06 UTC · Mar 6, 2022

Russia has already been cut off from CNN, Pornhub and Facebook. The US is now working on depriving Russians of MacDonalds and CocaCola. If they keep going with these sanctions, Russians will soon be among the healthiest, well adjusted and best informed people on the planet.

Comments

Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2022 2:46 utc | 383
yeah, its a lot of work to catch up with the countless posts! kremlin website and rt news are now hit and miss here on vancouver island.. i am getting this right now for rt news – This site can’t be reached…………. modi is hit and miss for me… he finally figured out how to work with the farmers on strike.. he is trying to stay neutral on russia and ignore usa pressure.. that might play well to ordinary indians… i don’t know.. i like indian punchlines position on what is happening with russia with regard to ukraine.. Russia’s Ukraine operations enter new phase that is from today..
Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 3:00 utc | 387.. thanks for considering it richard.. i agree with your last line… however with those i disagree with, i don’t spend that much time on them, unless i sense an open mind… some of the folks here are full of shit and it is generally pretty easy to tell… those are the ones i ignore completely..

Posted by: james | Mar 8 2022 3:51 utc | 401

Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 3:47 utc | 400… i don’t believe russia has had access to these bio labs until very recently… that might explain why to your questions.

Posted by: james | Mar 8 2022 3:53 utc | 402

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 3:18 utc | 393
Russia has a complicated relationship with Israel,
You can say that again. More than half the people over at Saker’s blog are perpetually fantasizing about Putin finally givin it to the Zionists, but it is clear to any impartial or analytic observer that Putin has a *great* deal of patience for Israel and lets them rung on a very long leash indeed when it comes to Syria.
The complexity of the relationship with Israel in part explains the wariness in being seen to be too close to Iran. Remember that Israel’s constant defense in hitting Syrian targets is that they serve as Iranian proxies.
Israel, for its part, looks to be maintaining a relative independence vis a vis Russia even as all the other US client states must dutifully fall in line. Almost makes you wonder who wears the pants in the US – Israel relationship, doesn’t it?
Israel, I suspect, will have no problem shifting to the Russia China axis the very moment they calculate it is in their interest to do so. You got to hand it to them, in a way.

Posted by: WJ | Mar 8 2022 3:54 utc | 403

@ Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 3:47 utc | 400.
you might want to open that link i shared @ 402 and see the twitter posts from M. K. BHADRAKUMAR it concerns your question about the biolabs in ukraine..

Posted by: james | Mar 8 2022 4:01 utc | 404

@Posted by: Oleg Lobotosad | Mar 8 2022 1:59 utc | 368
Mearsheimer knows that the US didn’t want to put “liberal democracy” everywhere, he knows that it was really about domination and exploitation. The whole “democratic peace theory” and “human rights” shtick is just covering propaganda for capitalist aggression and exploitation; more like “fake democracy” which is just way more efficient at controlling populations than autocracy. Mearsheimer is a member of the policy elite, good at providing misdirection.
He tends to be more truthful when he covers the realist position.

Posted by: Roger | Mar 8 2022 4:03 utc | 405

@Keith McClary #335
Nobody is going to build an underwater pipeline to Malta – population 525,285

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 8 2022 4:16 utc | 407

@377 Arch Bungle (also @398 Richard Steven Hack)
I appreciate your reply. I have a lot of sympathy for the Iranians. They suffered a lot at the hands of Americans and Israelis. They have been threatened and demonized for decades. They died in the hundreds of thousands in a war they did not initiate. They suffered a coup and regime change plotted by the U.S. and U.K., a Revolution, multiple assassinations of scientists, including a revered general Soleimani, and then the most brutal sanctions imposed on any country with the exception of NK.
One could say that they share some common tragic ground with Russia and especially now, so in this way they are natural allies.
I read a good article today on Saker’s blog on just that very point.
neither-east-nor-west-russia-considers-irans-way
You know right now Russia is the Western world’s pariah, and Iran was their pariah too and still is. I think Russia now needs as many friends as possible and especially Iranians who have survived many years with the worst sanctions and isolation imposed on any country and still managed to thrive on some level proving just how resilient they are. Now Russia is experiencing the same type of sanctions and isolation.
Iran has not only resisted U.S. domination; it is the Resistance to the Empire, and for that badge of honor has my respect and should have Russia’s as well.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 8 2022 4:19 utc | 408

WJ | Mar 8 2022 3:54 utc | 404
Russia’s stated objectives on going into Syria was to bring about conditions for negotiations and not start new wars. Russia will start a war between it self and Israel, Turkey, US in Syria.
Russia has stabilized Syria, prevented it becoming a jihadi haven/base and I guess for those that think Russia should be blasting away at Israel, Turkey and US in Syria, they can either like it or lump it. Whinging fucking crap. Syria would have only lasted a few more weeks if not for Russian intervention.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2022 4:21 utc | 409

Apologies Abe it seems we are both on the same page on this; when I read page one of this thread at around sparrow fart this morning, somehow I interpreted your post as saying europe wasn’t naturally fascist, when you were actually saying that it was.
After few hours hard yakka & coming back to this thread, I read your posts once more & saw we were in agreement.
Personally I have no doubt that following the inevitable economic & political crash of europe many euro countries will revert to fascism, including and especially Germany.
That is what Putin sees too. While the russian administration sails pretty close to that model itself from time to time, every Russian knows that a fascist Germany means a definite return to the conflict USSR won in 1945, only this time Russia will have a reduced ability to resist, so striking early was the only option.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 8 2022 4:21 utc | 410

Posted by: james | Mar 8 2022 3:53 utc | 403
“i don’t believe russia has had access to these bio labs until very recently… that might explain why to your questions.”
Possibly. But their assertions in their press statement indicate previous knowledge, based on the accusations that the labs were responsible for various outbreaks. I doubt that was determined just since they obtained these documents. One question I mentioned earlier was whether these labs have been publishing publicly accessible reports. Mainly, though, I just wonder that given the suspicious nature of these labs why Russia didn’t find a way to infiltrate them before this. They could have been hacked, physically infiltrated by double agents, etc. You can’t really “hide” stuff like this from a determined espionage organization.
Frankly, I consider these claims and the nuke claim (not Zelensky’s statements, but any claim that Ukraine was actually building a nuke) to be more along the lines of “trot out the WMDs if they don’t believe you that the bad guys are bad.” In other words, Russia is taking a page from Bush and Iraq. Now, they may have a lot more evidence than Bush did – which wouldn’t be hard since Bush had none – but until I see actual physical evidence I’m just not that interested, as opposed to being interested in how the war is going overall.
Note: I’m not accusing Russia of lying here. I’m just saying until they produce real evidence, it sounds more like a fight back against Western propaganda than real situations. I’m pretty sure Mercouris would agree, being a lawyer. In situations like this, he usually repeats the claims, then says “that’s all I’m going to say about that, because he doesn’t grant them the status of facts, just claims. He knows the difference between claims and evidence.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 4:22 utc | 411

Scuppers #395

My overall point is that circumstantially it does look really bad for the US. There’s no smoking gun yet, but I do hope the Russians find one; will probably come in the form of interrogations. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck.

The USA will mount a barrage of lies just as they did over the brilliant science in China to isolate and rapidly identify the Fort Detrick virus.
There is no effective audit of any of the hundreds of USA bio-warfare laboratories whether on the territorial USA or other colonies.
The criminal USA bio-warfare gangsters are strenuously refusing to conduct a public audit of their own stocks of cellular evidence from decades of human tissue collections. The USA is as guilty as sin of serial science abuse in this domain and rigidly refuses to accept responsibility.
What is needed is a thorough audit and itemised collection of names and experiments so that the day of judicial investigation knows who the perpetrators are. I wont be holding my breath and neither will the victims of the USA attack on Wuhan.
That one single Fort Detrick/Military Games screw up crippled the west and now it is at least getting a good kicking.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 8 2022 4:27 utc | 412

@ Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 4:22 utc | 412… fair enough richard… i think there is a lot of stuff open to question.. this would be some of it…
in one of my once every few week drive bys, i dropped by emptywheel… it is always funny to see what shit others are following… apparently bellingcat has some bullshit out that people are feeding on at ew… i can’t be bothered to read it but will quote you all you need to know of the upside down world at ew – “Team Bellingcat has been extremely reliable in its open source intelligence. ” – that is the exact opposite of how i see it.. if you want the latest dispatch from m-16/cia – you can check it out..

Posted by: james | Mar 8 2022 4:28 utc | 413

Posted by: james | Mar 8 2022 4:01 utc | 405
“you might want to open that link i shared @ 402 and see the twitter posts from M. K. BHADRAKUMAR it concerns your question about the biolabs in ukraine..”
I’m confused. The link you referenced goes to “Russia’s Ukraine operations enter new phase” and makes no mention of biolabs.
As for Bahdrakumar’s Twitter posts, he’s referring to this statement which I’ve already read and discussed here. I know, it’s impossible to keep up with all the comments. 🙂
Statement by the Chief of the Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection troops of the Russian Federation Armed Forces Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov (March 7, 2022): biological programs
https://thesaker.is/statement-by-the-chief-of-the-nuclear-biological-and-chemical-protection-troops-of-the-russian-federation-armed-forces-lieutenant-general-igor-kirillov-march-7-2022-biological-programs/

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 4:28 utc | 414

Israel, I suspect, will have no problem shifting to the Russia China axis the very moment they calculate it is in their interest to do so. You got to hand it to them, in a way.
Posted by: WJ | Mar 8 2022 3:54 utc | 404

Russia China…Izrahell? Are you kidding? I wouldn’t hand them anything except…a grenade!

Posted by: Circe | Mar 8 2022 4:32 utc | 415

@ Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 4:28 utc | 415… yeah, it was regarding the twitter posts… you’re right.. it is hard to keep up.. i apologize as you’ve read it all, already.. the bellingcrap at ew is pretty funny, but the funniest part is how bmaz and company are rock solid it is all legit.. with doofus lawyers like bmaz, it explains why the usa is where it is at today..

Posted by: james | Mar 8 2022 4:36 utc | 416

Richard Steven Hack
Perhaps a bit of trivia, but do you remember Lavrov talking about ducks in Syria? Russian federation did not take kindly to those ducks in Syria. I doubt the Russian federation will take kindly to the pentagon ducks in Ukraine.
Not a shot at you Richard, rather a thought on what is to come.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2022 4:38 utc | 417

Posted by: james | Mar 8 2022 4:28 utc | 414
I was reading some total garbage from a Bellingcat clown somewhere the other day. I forget what it was about, but it was the most absurd nonsense.
This is the guy, described as “Bellingcat’s Lead Investigator”:
Christo Grozev is lead Russia investigator with Bellingcat, focusing on security threats, extraterritorial clandestine operations, and the weaponization of information. His investigations into the identity of the suspects in the 2018 Novichok poisonings in the UK earned him and his team the European Prize for Investigative Journalism.
The stuff he was putting was simply delusional. Ah, here it is, I found it…

“Almost a year ago I received some credible-sounding information that things would change in Russia in 2022. That it would be like nothing we’ve seen before, that Russia would become a dictatorship. That Russia would be North Korea 2.0 and journalists would be jailed and the free media (well, the remaining islands of free media) would be shut down. And that the country would become an army or it would run like an army,” he said.

Bellingcat’s Grozev on Investigating Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine
https://gijn.org/2022/03/03/bellingcats-christo-grozev-on-investigating-the-russian-incursion-in-ukraine-gijn/

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 4:41 utc | 418

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2022 4:38 utc | 418
I vaguely remember that. Or was that in Iraq, the ducks covered in oil? :=)

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 4:42 utc | 419

Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 4:41 utc | 419
bellingcrap proved himself and his group a complete bullshit operation during syria… i think he chimed in on skripal too… total garbage.. uk garbage mostly as memory serves… it is amazing how this shit gets swallowed so easily… delusional is a good work for it… grozev i suppose is in charge of russian propaganda for the uk outfit.. it says it is netherland based.. they did the shit on MH17.. complete lies and fabrications is their specialty.. they make good money in the present environment..

Posted by: james | Mar 8 2022 4:45 utc | 420

Now this is shit behavior. Unfortunately I have to deal with these asshats in order to get bitcoin to buy a subscription to my file-sharing service.
Coinbase blocks over 25,000 Russian-linked crypto addresses
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/coinbase-blocks-over-25-000-russian-linked-crypto-addresses/

The company also shared all the block addresses with the US government to “further support sanctions enforcement.
Paul Grewal, Coinbase’s Chief Legal Officerlaos, added that the crypto exchange is blocking sanctioned actors from opening new accounts and actively detecting attempts to evade the ban.
The ban addresses sanction lists maintained by countries worldwide, including the United States, United Kingdom, European Union, United Nations, Singapore, Canada, and Japan.
“For example, when the United States sanctioned a Russian national in 2020, it specifically listed three associated blockchain addresses. Through advanced blockchain analysis, we proactively identified over 1,200 additional addresses potentially associated with the sanctioned individual, which we added to our internal blocklist,” Grewal said.
“Today, Coinbase blocks over 25,000 addresses related to Russian individuals or entities we believe to be engaging in illicit activity, many of which we have identified through our own proactive investigations.”
This comes after Ukraine’s Vice Prime Minister Mykhailo Fedorov also asked all major crypto exchanges to block blockchain addresses used by Russians to increase pressure and force them to take action against their government’s ongoing war in Ukraine.
“It’s crucial to freeze not only the addresses linked to Russian and Belarusian politicians, but also to sabotage ordinary users,” Fedorov said.

That, by the way, is called “collective punishment” and is against the Geneva Convention.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 4:47 utc | 421

▪️The curators from the Pentagon understand that if these collections get to Russian experts a fact of violation of the Convention on the Prohibition of Biological and Toxin Weapons by Ukraine and the USA will most likely be confirmed. Namely: carrying out work to enhance the pathogenic properties of microorganisms with usage of synthetic biology methods.
Only this can explain a haste with which the liquidation was carried out.
the fucking quacking duck the Russians are trying to catch/shoot. For an old fart you are on the ball Richard (from one of your posts a while back you have a year or two on me. 🙂 Make that a hard old fart.)

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2022 4:49 utc | 422

I was surprised at the turn Empty Wheel took, I didn’t follow it much but my impression was it was an honest and worthwhile blog, then I think it turned 180 when Clinton lost. just blatant lying about Wheeler having “seen the evidence” (that she couldn’t reveal cause national security/sources and methods you bet) that Trump was colluding with Putin. maybe the signs were there from the beginning.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 8 2022 4:50 utc | 423

Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova’s comment on German Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s statement regarding suspension of Nord Stream 2’s certification
https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1802479/

In this regard, we would like to make clear that Berlin’s decision to suspend the project will result in irreversible damage to Russian-German relations, which have been far from smooth in recent years through no fault of ours. Responsibility for the consequences of these illegitimate actions, which call into question the reputation of the FRG as a reliable foreign economic partner, lies entirely with the German side. As such, project investors have an inalienable right to seek compensation from official Berlin in international arbitration courts.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 4:51 utc | 424

@ pretzelattack | Mar 8 2022 4:50 utc | 424.. i followed it a long time ago… they got offtrack and never went back on track… whacky site! perfect example of people drinking koolaid and being okay with it all..

Posted by: james | Mar 8 2022 4:52 utc | 425

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2022 4:49 utc | 423
“Make that a hard old fart.)”
Well, this may be too much information, but given my overeating tendency which results in, shall we say, blockages in the bowels, “hard fart” is a precise description. LOL

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 4:57 utc | 426

Maria digs up previous Ukrainian remarks on regaining nuclear capability… I got this via a reference on The Saker blog to a Nikita Mikhalkov: BesogonTV video which appears on the Russian MFA Telegram channel: https://t.me/MFARussia. Good stuff there.
⚡️ #Opinion by Maria Zakharova, Russian MFA Spokeswoman
Ukrainian FM Kuleba: “Russian FM Lavrov spreads disinfo by falsely alleging Ukraine wants to restore its nuclear arsenal. Once again: This is a cynical, blatant lie by Russia who itself fires at nuclear facilities in Ukraine. Safe zones must be established around them to prevent disaster in Europe.”
💬 #Zakharova: Just look at what kind of turncoats they are! Simply read their statements, read what the Ukrainian leadership has been saying publicly. There was also more said, behind the scenes.
This is how it goes:
💬 Secretary of the National Security Council Alexander Turchinov, April 2018:
“With all these events behind us, we can draw a conclusion that few will like. Giving up nuclear weapons was our historical mistake. The security guarantees are not even worth the paper on which they were written.”
💬 Head of the Servant of the People parliamentary group Davyd Arakhamia, July 29, 2021:
“I think that Kravchuk made a fatal mistake by getting rid of nuclear weapons after signing a meaningless memorandum. Basically, this mistake has been haunting us ever since. It dwarfs all the other mistakes by all other presidents. Had we been a nuclear power, everyone would have talked to us and sought to reach agreements in a different manner.”
💬 President Vladimir Zelensky, February 19, 2022:
“Since 2014, Ukraine has made three attempts to convene consultations of guarantor countries under the Budapest Memorandum. All three failed. Today, Ukraine is making its fourth attempt, which is my first attempt as President. Make no mistake, this is the last try for me, and for Ukraine. I am seeking to initiate consultations under the Budapest Memorandum, and instructed the Foreign Minister to convene the them. If they do not take place yet again or do not result in security guarantees for our state, Ukraine will have the right to view the Budapest Memorandum as a dead letter, which calls into question the entire package of decisions adopted in 1994.”

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 5:01 utc | 427

Interesting site: https://waronfakes.com/

⚡️Manifest⚡️
Welcome to the “War on Fakes” project. We are the owners and administrators of several Russian non-political telegram channels.
We don’t do politics. But we consider it important to provide unbiased information about what is happening in Ukraine and on the territories of Donbass, because we see signs of an information war launched against Russia.
Our mission is to make sure that there are only objective publications in the information space.
We do not want ordinary people to feel anxious and panicked because of information wars.
We are going to look into every fake and give links to the real refutations. Be safe, be at peace, be with us.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 5:04 utc | 428

Announcement from Russian Ministry of Defense on Telegram about a (localized) ceasefire to enable humanitarian corridors. Let’s see if this one works, unlike the last one.
In order to conduct a humanitarian operation:
➡️ 1. From 10:00 a.m. (Moscow time) on March 8, 2022, the Russian Federation declares cease-fire and is ready to provide humanitarian corridors:
from Kiev and adjacent settlements to the Russian Federation through the territory of the Republic of Belarus to Gomel city with delivery by air to the Russian Federation, in the southern direction – in agreement with the Ukrainian side;
from Chernigov through the territory of the Republic of Belarus to Gomel with delivery by air transport to the Russian Federation, in the southern direction – in agreement with the Ukrainian side;
from Sumy by two routes to Poltava and to the territory of the Russian Federation to Belgorod – then by air, rail and road transport to selected destinations or temporary accommodation, in the southern direction – in agreement with the Ukrainian side;
from Kharkov to the territory of the Russian Federation to Belgorod – then by air, rail and road transport to selected destinations or temporary accommodation, to Lvov, Uzhgorod, Ivano-Frankivsk – in agreement with the Ukrainian side;
from Mariupol by two routes to the territory of the Russian Federation to Rostov-on-Don through Novoazovsk and Taganrog cities, to Zaporozhye – in agreement with the Ukrainian side.
➡️ 2. This statement should be immediately brought to the Ukrainian side (Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Irina Vereshchuk) proposed to coordinate the specified routes and the start time of humanitarian corridors by 03:00 a.m. (Moscow time) on March 8, 2022, and to submit written approval of these approaches, including guarantees to ensure security on the declared routes of humanitarian operations by the Ukrainian authorities to the Joint Coordination Headquarters of the Russian Federation for Humanitarian Response in Ukraine by the specified time.
The Ukrainian side have to publish this statement in Ukrainian and Russian languages in Ukrainian media by 03:00 a.m. (Moscow time) on March 8, 2022.
➡️ 3. This statement (in Russian and English) should immediately be brought to the attention of the embassies of foreign states, relevant structures of the UN, the OSCE, the ICRC and other international organizations through all available information resources, including the media.
➡️ 4. The Ukrainian side should also inform, in accordance with the established procedure, about the planned humanitarian operation before 03:00 a.m. (Moscow time) on March 8, 2022, representatives of the embassies of foreign states, specialized structures of the UN, the OSCE, the ICRC and other international organizations located on the territory of Ukraine, through all available information resources, including Ukrainian media.
➡️ 5. For the purpose of implementation of measures for the evacuation of civilians and foreign citizens along agreed routes during the humanitarian operation, from 09:30 a.m. (Moscow time) on March 8, 2022, organize continuous communication between the Russian and Ukrainian sides for the mutual exchange of information on the preparation and carrying out the evacuation of civilians and foreign citizens.
➡️ 6. This emergency statement is subject to immediate publication and communication to all interested parties through all available information resources, including media.
#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #HumanitarianCorridor
@mod_russia_en

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 5:08 utc | 429

This is about the humanitarian corridor attempt from March 7th.
MOD Russia: Statement on telegram channel + Briefing
http://thesaker.is/mod-russia-statement-on-telegram-channel-briefing/

Unfortunately, a detailed and well-planned operation to open humanitarian corridors and declare cease-fire regime simultaneously in several of the most threatened areas should have brought at least some positive results in order to save people who are in a terrible humanitarian catastrophe.
▪️ For the exit of civilians and foreign citizens forcibly held by the Ukrainian authorities in Kiev, Kharkov, Sumy and Mariupol, the Russian Armed Forces today once again established cease-fire and opened humanitarian corridors:
from Kiev to Gomel, with transfer by air transport to the Russian Federation;
from Mariupol by two routes to Rostov-on-Don and Zaporozhye with departure to the west of Ukraine, from Kharkov to Belgorod,
from Sumy along two routes to Poltava, at the suggestion of the Ukrainian side and Belgorod – then by air, rail and road transport to selected destination points or places of temporary accommodation.
▪️ Yesterday, from 10:00 to 11:40 p.m., this information was brought to the official representatives of the Kiev authorities, representatives of foreign embassies, relevant structures of the UN, the OSCE, the International Committee of the Red Cross and other international organizations through all information resources, including the media.
Only today at 7:10 a.m., an official response from the Ukrainian side was received with consent to open humanitarian corridors. But at the same time, the Kiev regime, in agreement, deliberately did not include the openning of humanitarian corridors in the direction of the Russian Federation from Kiev, Kharkov, Mariupol and Sumy.
❗️The residents of these and other settlements were not informed about the possibility of unhindered safe evacuation.
▪️ The requests of the Ukrainian side, voiced to us less than three hours before the opening of humanitarian corridors, look absurd:
▪️ 1st is to ensure evacuation from Bucha, Borodyanka, Irpen, Dymer and Ivankovo settlements in Kiev region, as well as Lipci and Strilecha settlements in Kharkov region, which are under control of the Russian Armed Forces. At the same time, none of the residents of these settlements expressed a desire to evacuate, people live peacefully in their homes, nothing threatens them;
▪️ 2nd is to organize the evacuation from Izyum and Bakaleya cities in Kharkov region, which are under the full control of national battalions, where the Russian Armed Forces have nothing to do with ensuring security in these cities;
▪️ 3rd is to deliver humanitarian cargo by official Kiev to Melitopol and Berdyansk in Zaporozhye region and to Kherson. There are absolutely no problems in supplying these settlements today.
▪️ All of the facts above say that the Ukrainian leadership has completely lost control over the state of affairs in their own country, is unable to resolve any issues, being under the harsh influence of radicals, who are actually a parallel government that does not recognize any laws.
▪️ As of 1:00 p.m., the Ukrainian side has not fulfilled a single condition for the creation of humanitarian corridors. We observed by means of objective control, including unmanned aerial vehicles – not a single event for the preparation of humanitarian convoys was carried out, no one arrived at the open humanitarian corridors.
It is known that the nationalists, under the threat of physical violence, simply do not let civilians and foreign citizens out of these settlements.
▪️ From 10:00 a.m., on the contrary, we note intensive movement of armed people on the front line in all directions, artillery and mortar fire did not stop for a second. During these three hours alone, on all six humanitarian corridors declared by the Russian Armed Forces, 172 shellings from the armed forces of Ukraine and nationalists were recorded. In this case, we are talking about shelling areas directly located or adjacent to the alleged humanitarian corridors.
❗️In Mariupol, any attempts by the civilian population and foreign citizens to move in the direction of the gathering places for humanitarian convoys were severely suppressed, up to the use of weapons to kill.
❗️In addition, the mayor of Sumy, Alexander Lysenko with the commander of the national battalion, at 11:55 a.m.officially announced: “There will be no green corridors, not a single civilian will go to Russia, and those who try to do this will be shot.”
▪️ We know why the Kiev regime, by all available and inaccessible methods, in every possible way prevents the exit of civilians and foreigners to Russia, and in fact, they afraid that people will tell the truth about lawlessness and chaos, humiliation and suffering, as well as genocide organized by this inhuman regime.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 5:11 utc | 430

Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 4:57 utc | 427
Gotta be better than shitting blood. About where I am reduced to.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2022 5:26 utc | 431

@ RSH with the latest reports on evacuation from Ukraine
It is sad to read that and I want to badly see a global escalation of push back that might stop such atrocities. Those neo nazis need to see their backers given another wake up call like the Iranians did in Iraq bombing the airbase.
ARGH!!!! I keep telling myself to be happy humanity is on the brink of potential evolution…..

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 8 2022 5:29 utc | 432

This is a Telegram link to a video by the Russian BesogonTV video narrated by Nikita Mikhalkov. This video covers the events of the Maidan and subsequently and shows the attitude of the Ukrainian regime toward the Russian citizens in Ukraine. It’s in Russian with excellent English subtitles. It does a lot of quoting from actual Ukrainian documents including showing the documents.
https://t.me/MFARussia/11938
For those without Telegram or possibly blocked, I have saved the video to my hard drive and uploaded it (293MB file size) to my Google Drive at the following link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u5e2zNgPBwM7zlnR1Y677xhe7vw9VSYk/view?usp=sharing
Note: I had a hard time playing this video on my Linux box with SMPlayer, and VLC Player. It finally played in mplayer. On a second try it played in SMPlayer. Second try on VLC still didn’t work. YMMV on other platforms. It also won’t play in Google, apparently, but you are provided a download link. Google Drive will tell you the file is too big to scan for viruses, but don’t sweat that. Just continue the download.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 5:46 utc | 433

The gays, anchors, jewesses, lesbians fronting for the synagogue of satan in the BBC,MSM, etc are all doubly careful now, none of them wants to end up as an infamous baghdad “comical ali” or 911 Jane Standley, bwahahaha.

Posted by: Anon | Mar 8 2022 5:47 utc | 434

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2022 5:26 utc | 432
I feel you. Not there yet.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 5:47 utc | 435

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 8 2022 5:29 utc | 433
“humanity is on the brink of potential evolution…..”
They are. Except it’s called “Transhumanism” which is a dirty word around here. 🙂

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 5:49 utc | 436

@ Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 5:49 utc | 437 with “Transhumanism”
I try and stick to the reality of public/private finance and shun all ism things as myths
YMMV

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 8 2022 5:53 utc | 437

Froward from the Russian Embassy in Ireland to the MFA…
#Statement by the Embassy on the violation of its territory
On March 7, 2022, 13:30pm, a large truck came over to the gates of the Embassy, pulled back and torn down the gates of the Embassy. The incident took place in the presence of Garda officers, who stood idle.
The Embassy strongly condemns this criminal act of insanity directed against peaceful diplomatic mission.
The Embassy views this incident as a clear and blatant violation of the Article 22 of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic relations of 1961. The Embassy is in contact with the Department of Foreign Affairs of Ireland, demanding that the Irish authorities take comprehensive measures to ensure the safety of it’s staff and their family members.
The incident is cause of extreme concern. We believe that no people of sound mind could support such senseless and barbaric actions.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 5:53 utc | 438

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 8 2022 5:53 utc | 438
“I try and stick to the reality of public/private finance and shun all ism things as myths”
Usually a good idea. 🙂

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 5:54 utc | 439

b’s and Karlof1’s posts always recharge my optimism.

Posted by: Man | Mar 8 2022 5:58 utc | 440

He sounds, shall we say, “pissed”…
Head of SVR Sergey Naryshkin:
— The more successful the special military operation in Ukraine develops, the more hysterical the United States and other NATO countries become. Out of excitement, American President Joe Biden even confused Ukrainians with Iranians during his last address to the nation.
– Masks have dropped. The West is not just trying to enclose Russia with a new “iron curtain”. We are talking about attempts to destroy our state – its “abolition”, as it is now customary to say in the “tolerant” liberal-fascist environment. Since the United States and its allies have neither the opportunity nor the spirit to try to do this in an open and honest military-political confrontation, sneaky attempts are being made to establish an economic, informational and humanitarian “blockade”.
– Hypocrites! Take the log out of your own eye first! NATO bombed Yugoslavia under the pretext of saving the “unfortunate” Kosovo Albanians, and now their leader Hashim Thaci himself is in the dock on charges of war crimes and trafficking in human organs!
– Zelensky at the Munich Security Conference threatened to reconsider Ukraine’s renunciation of nuclear weapons. However, this did cause absolutely no reaction from the leaders of the EU countries. These threats are by no means an empty phrase and not a spontaneous statement of a politician besotted with impunity. According to the intelligence received by the SVR, work in this direction was carried out in Ukraine.
– The neutral status of Ukraine is of critical importance for Russia. This is the minimum territorial barrier necessary for our country to repel attacks from the West. This is well understood by American and NATO experts, and that is why they have taken up Ukraine so tightly in a situation when Russia has challenged the weakening American hegemony.
– The Russians are harnessing for a long time, it’s true. But they drive fast, they hurt and they don’t leave their own. We were simply left with no other choice. The only way to ensure our own security is the demilitarization and denazification of the Ukrainian state.
— At the same time, it is already clearly visible today, including from the intelligence information coming to us, that the American administration and the Ukrainian regime submissive to it are betting on the maximum prolongation of the conflict, its escalation into a high-intensity positional war. Groups of armed militants are being sent from Western countries to Ukraine, who are tasked with organizing and supporting the so-called guerrilla underground.
– Washington really hopes that we will get bogged down in this operation and disappear, and they will be able to calmly engage in the “cleansing” of the Middle East, Eurasia and the Asia-Pacific region. This will not happen: “the ancient has passed, now everything is new.” As for the future of Ukraine, it will, of course, be determined by the Ukrainians themselves. But it will be a completely different Ukraine and a different story.
— At the moment, right before our eyes, a fundamentally new stage of European and world history is unfolding. Its essence lies in the collapse of the unipolar world and the system of international relations based on the right of the strongest, that is, the United States, to destroy other states
— Let’s add that the current conflict in Ukraine is a good reason to conduct a thorough revision of international legal regimes and obligations, to develop fundamentally new modalities of relations with the West and with the whole world. The war in the post-Soviet space, if anyone has not noticed, has not stopped for thirty years, and now Russia has a real chance to put an end to it.»
https://t.me/glavpolit/11772

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 6:11 utc | 441

Statement by Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Alexander Novak:
READ in full
(https://telegra.ph/Statement-by-Deputy-Prime-Minister-of-the-Russian-Federation-Alexander-Novak-03-07) Key points:
Regrettably, we have seen the statement by European politicians on energy issues and calls to dump Russian oil and gas. European officials are once again trying to shift the problems and failures of their own energy policy of recent years onto Russia.
Russia has been nothing but a reliable partner for many decades. And Gazprom continues to meet its contractual obligations on gas supplies to Europe in full.
Russia is a major supplier of oil to Europe. Europe consumes about 500 million tonnes of oil, and Russia supplies around 30% of it, that is 150 million tonnes, and 80 million tonnes of petrochemicals on top of that.
We see our partners, traders, shipping companies, banks and financial institutions coming under enormous pressure. I would like to emphasise that such statements and actions will only roil the market. We have already seen oil prices exceeding $130 per barrel.
Attempts to kick start discussion of an import ban undermine the foundations of the market, create uncertainty and cause considerable harm to consumers.
If you want to cut off supplies of energy resources from Russia, go ahead, we are ready for that. We know where will reroute these volumes. The question is – who benefits? And what is the point?
Various fakes are being hyped alleging that the Russian Armed Forces are attacking Zaporozhye nuclear power plant. Russia has absolutely nothing to do with that.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 6:17 utc | 442

@ drshivago
I am sick of hearing idiots proclaiming that the rule of corporate globalists, all capitalists, the self appointed masters of the universe controlling the US and the West are “socialists” or even Bolsheviks. Since when are criminal capitalists “socialists” ? The use of such ignorant right wing memes is a disgrace on this site. With so many smart people here I would expect some would object, but no one seems to care, so let the confusion march on unchallenged! Between loose, upside down political talk and the West constant disinformation, no wonder few people can tell reality from sheer nonsense.

Posted by: Albert Whit | Mar 8 2022 6:18 utc | 443

Statement by Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Alexander Novak:
Key points:
Regrettably, we have seen the statement by European politicians on energy issues and calls to dump Russian oil and gas. European officials are once again trying to shift the problems and failures of their own energy policy of recent years onto Russia.
Russia has been nothing but a reliable partner for many decades. And Gazprom continues to meet its contractual obligations on gas supplies to Europe in full.
Russia is a major supplier of oil to Europe. Europe consumes about 500 million tonnes of oil, and Russia supplies around 30% of it, that is 150 million tonnes, and 80 million tonnes of petrochemicals on top of that.
We see our partners, traders, shipping companies, banks and financial institutions coming under enormous pressure. I would like to emphasise that such statements and actions will only roil the market. We have already seen oil prices exceeding $130 per barrel.
Attempts to kick start discussion of an import ban undermine the foundations of the market, create uncertainty and cause considerable harm to consumers.
If you want to cut off supplies of energy resources from Russia, go ahead, we are ready for that. We know where will reroute these volumes. The question is – who benefits? And what is the point?
Various fakes are being hyped alleging that the Russian Armed Forces are attacking Zaporozhye nuclear power plant. Russia has absolutely nothing to do with that.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 6:18 utc | 444

Posted by: Albert Whit | Mar 8 2022 6:18 utc | 443
I did catch that. A couple of others did, too. Possibly he meant to say that corporate control of everything was ‘fascism” – which it is – but mistyped “socialism”. Or he just doesn’t know the difference.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 6:20 utc | 445

Prescient.
💸 💸 💸 Money with Wings was approved as part of Unicode 6.0 in 2010 💸 💸 💸

Posted by: too scents | Mar 8 2022 6:29 utc | 446

@ too scents | Mar 8 2022 6:29 utc | 446 with the Money with Wings Unicode
Well, you know those private finance folk have a light touch…../s

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 8 2022 6:34 utc | 447

Well I think on sanctions, the Russians should just put on their fecal protective suites and say “go ahead, make my day” then watch the shit fly as they fire back.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2022 6:35 utc | 448

Huge oversight by that there is no sanctions emoji.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 8 2022 6:38 utc | 449

@Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 6:11 utc | 442
“— Let’s add that the current conflict in Ukraine is a good reason to conduct a thorough revision of international legal regimes and obligations, to develop fundamentally new modalities of relations with the West and with the whole world. The war in the post-Soviet space, if anyone has not noticed, has not stopped for thirty years, and now Russia has a real chance to put an end to it.”
And suddenly the top ‘tiny hat’ in Occupied Apartheid Palestine is trotting off to Moscow to discuss the future 1:1 without prying ears or pulled strings. I wonder if a possible post-Ukraine major UN policy performance review of outcomes since, say, 1967 has anything to do with it?

Posted by: imo | Mar 8 2022 6:39 utc | 450

Posted by: Circe | Mar 8 2022 4:19 utc | 409
As RSH pointed out a few posts above the situation has changed and it’s almost guaranteed Russia’s (perceived) lukewarm treatment of Iran will no become most “passionate” overnight.
Russia’s brief and frigid romance with the West has come to an abrupt and definite end. To survive this divorce, lukewarm engagements will not be sufficient – only sincere embraces and true intimacy will suffice while the tragic partition of the bridal home proceeds.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 8 2022 6:44 utc | 451

Below is a Xinhuanet posting about recent and future negotiations

KIEV/MOSCOW, March 8 (Xinhua) — Russian and Ukrainian negotiators failed to achieve major breakthrough during their third round of peace talks in Belarus on Monday, while a negotiator said the fourth round will take place in “the very near future.”
“The discussions continued on political and military aspects. However, it remains difficult. It is too early to talk about something positive,” Russian presidential aide Vladimir Medinsky, also the head of the Russian delegation, said following the third round of talks.
Russian negotiators brought specific agreements to the talks, but the Ukrainian side refused to sign them on the spot and took the documents back home for further study, he told reporters.
“To be honest, our expectations from the talks were not met. But we hope that next time we will be able to take a more significant step forward,” Medinsky said after the meeting, which lasted nearly three hours at the Belovezhskaya Pushcha on the Belarus-Poland border.
Both sides addressed the issue of civilian evacuation, and the Ukrainian side assured Russia that the humanitarian corridors would start working on Tuesday, he said.
Leonid Slutsky, member of the Russian delegation and head of the International Affairs Committee of the lower house of the Russian parliament, said that the fourth round of talks would take place in the near future, Sputnik reported on Monday.
“And the next round, given that the rounds take place almost every other day, so the next, fourth round will take place in Belarus in the very, very near future. I can’t name the exact date yet,” Slutsky said after the third round of negotiations as aired by Russia’s Rossiya 24 broadcaster.
On the same day, Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi held a telephone conversation with Josep Borrell, the European Union’s high representative for foreign affairs and security policy.
During the conversation, Borrell briefed Wang on the EU’s position on Ukraine, saying the most important thing at present is to cease fire and avoid further massive casualties.
The EU supports solving the issue through negotiations, he said.
For his part, Wang said the top priority now is to avoid a humanitarian crisis, adding that China has publicly put forth a six-point initiative on preventing a humanitarian crisis in Ukraine aimed at promoting synergy among the international community to avoid a further deterioration of the situation.
Wang said that Russia and Ukraine should be encouraged to hold peace talks and that the Chinese side has advocated dialogue from the very start.
He said he hopes that the international community can support sincere negotiations between Russia and Ukraine involving a ceasefire, ending the conflict and peace.
On Thursday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba are expected to meet in Turkey’s southern province of Antalya on the sidelines of the Antalya Diplomatic Forum, according to Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu.
The meeting would be held in a tripartite format, Cavusoglu said at a press conference on Monday, while hoping it would “be a turning point.”
On Monday, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova confirmed that Lavrov and Kuleba plan to meet in Antalya. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed to the meeting during their recent phone conversation.
Meanwhile, according to the Ukrainian UNIAN news agency, Ukrainian Foreign Ministry spokesman Oleg Nikolenko said that Kiev is exploring the possibility of such a meeting in Turkey.

It reads like maybe serious talks on Thursday with Lavrov……what will the field of “play” look like by then?
I can’t find the 6 point China initiative….others?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 8 2022 6:45 utc | 452

I think that the NPR poll says it all. The US economy was already tanking and the surprising thing is Biden’s numbers are going up while it is tanking some more, a lot more. People do not think rationally. If they did, the approval for NATO membership would not be reaching record highs in some countries, like Sweden or Finland, considering how badly NATO let Ukraine down. The Democrat leadership must be thinking that the worse it gets, the more people need a “devil they know”, even if that devil is the one who brought them to this mess. Supposing the NPR poll is not bribed by Biden, as the Covid coverage was in the major media outlets, according to the Blaze.
The NPR story is https://www.npr.org/2022/03/04/1084463809/biden-approval-poll-ukraine-economy

Posted by: Jonathan W | Mar 8 2022 7:01 utc | 453

Several old news
1. Russia-China Joint Military Exercise in 2020 and 2021
a) It is believed that China has developed a joint battlefield information system that can integrate Russian current system which solved language barriers and both parties and share the same battlefield awareness and chain of command.
b) This system was first used in 2021 exercise and it was mentioned that China J20 provides air support to Russian ground forces.
c) Reference: Both commentators have good connections with PLA and one family is from PLA navy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqHd_oeuql0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqBCeIJ4fd4
2. Chinese think tank commentary on recent situation. This person is high level Sino-American relationship advisor. He talked about George Kennan and NATO’s promise on “not an inch to the east”. One thing he mentioned that the info war in Chinese website and fake news of Russia is mainly from Taiwan(in mainland, we call them 1450 network forces, they spread all fake news about CCP and mainland China working seamless with Western media). Anti-China propaganda stops for several hours a couple of days ago. Guess the reason, there was a major electric grid malfunction in Taiwan at the same time.
Reference here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8MRc4Hs2_Q
3. Russia stops paying intellectual property royalty fee to a dozens of countries. Interestingly enough, China passed “Anti foreign sanction law” in June 2021.

Posted by: HZ | Mar 8 2022 7:04 utc | 454

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 8 2022 6:45 utc | 452
Here you go. 6 initiatives from China. Translation doesn’t fully convey the explicit meanings. My understanding is that China is Ok with Russian’s operation and since Russian and China are both in UN security consul. China just needs to extract Chinese citizens in Ukraine.
‎first, humanitarian action must respect the principles of neutrality and impartiality and prevent the politicization of humanitarian issues;‎
‎the second is to pay full attention to the displaced people in ukraine and help them to be properly resettled;‎
‎the third is to effectively protect civilians and prevent secondary humanitarian disasters in ukraine;‎
‎fourth, ensure the smooth and safe development of humanitarian assistance activities, including providing rapid, safe and barrier-free humanitarian access;‎
‎fifth, to ensure the safety of foreigners in ukraine, to allow them to leave safely from ukraine, and to provide assistance for their return to their home countries;‎
‎the sixth is to support the united nations in playing a coordinating role in humanitarian assistance to ukraine and to support the work of the united nations crisis coordinator in ukraine.‎

Posted by: HZ | Mar 8 2022 7:13 utc | 455

psychohistorian #452

On Thursday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba are expected to meet in Turkey’s southern province of Antalya on the sidelines of the Antalya Diplomatic Forum, according to Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu.
The meeting would be held in a tripartite format, Cavusoglu said at a press conference on Monday, while hoping it would “be a turning point.”
On Monday, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova confirmed that Lavrov and Kuleba plan to meet in Antalya. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed to the meeting during their recent phone conversation.

Let us have no illusions. When it comes to de-nazification, Turkey would be at the top of the needs based order. The Grey Wolves are fascist mongrels of the worst kind, likely fully UKUSA trained and bred. I expect there will be talks just to pander to the Sultan.
Let us recall also that the Sultan’s son in law manufactures Bayraktar drones that were to be used by the USA to carry their precious aerosols of death in eastern Ukraine. These talks are just show pony BS while the citizens of Mariupol are tortured by the Azov League of the United States of America.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 8 2022 7:16 utc | 456

On the topic of suiciding oneself:

1960 CIA report: A German Army intelligence agent was sent by the CIA to investigate the death of Ukrainian ultra-nationalist leader Stephan Bandera.
Agent concluded that Bandera was not killed but rather committed suicide due to a miserable home life.
https://archive.org/details/BanderaStefan/Bandera%2C%20Stefan/BANDERA%2C%20STEFAN_0069/mode/2up

https://twitter.com/OurHiddenHistry/status/1500964668055162883
Suicide is a somewhat less romantic end for Bandera than assassination.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 8 2022 7:24 utc | 457

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 8 2022 6:45 utc | 452
Posted by: HZ | Mar 8 2022 7:13 utc | 455
Here’s a video of Wang Yi explaining them.
FM Wang Yi: China proposes a six-point initiative for preventing humanitarian crisis in Ukraine
https://theglobalherald.com/news/fm-wang-yi-china-proposes-a-six-point-initiative-for-preventing-humanitarian-crisis-in-ukraine/
Alexander Mercouris suggested lat week that China might want the role of mediator between Ukraine and Russia, but in a more recent video suggests China has cooled on that option.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 8 2022 7:16 utc | 456
Agreed. Probably Lavrov is just sounding out how desperate Kuleba is and whether he can be “turned” against the hard liners (assuming he survives them.) Certainly Kuleba will get an earful on what Russia intends and how the surrender terms presented are the best Ukraine is going to get. Lavrov might also bring up the bio weapons allegation and demand cooperation on that front. I’d love to be a fly on the wall for this conversation. Looking forward to the Russian readout of this meeting.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 7:35 utc | 458

Also, Reuters published yesterday Russia’s terms for ending the war here. They appear quite sensible. Did that get any traction in the media? Of course not. Instead, we have wall-to-wall coverage of what Ivan the Terrible is doing in Ukraine. The Times of London promised the West would step up pressure after Russian cynical offer (referring to the humanitarian corridors). The point is to make people behave and think as irrationally as possible, building on the psyop that has been going on for the past couple of years with the Covid theatre. And the powers that be know how to take it from there.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Mar 8 2022 7:36 utc | 459

Stick a fork in EVs, an nonviable development driven by misguided regulations and mispriced risk chasing yield.

Nickel Market Breaks, Price Doubles to $100,000 In 1 Day, Deliveries Fail
The nickel market just broke and a Chinese producer took a $5 billion margin call hit.

https://mishtalk.com/economics/nickel-market-breaks-price-doubles-to-100000-per-ton-deliveries-fail
TSLA alone represents about $1T of fictitious capital about the meet the tooth fairy.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 8 2022 7:43 utc | 460

Jonathan W | Mar 8 2022 7:36 utc | 459 “The point is to make people behave and think as irrationally as possible, building on the psyop that has been going on for the past couple of years”
And the people I used to envy a bit because they seemed to be educated go along with this bullshit like zombies following the pied piper. The more I look at it, western education is nothing more than mind control. Fuckwits with a piece of paper saying they can add up two plus two equals five.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2022 7:47 utc | 461

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 7:35 utc | 458
China will not fall for the trap of being the moderator. She is not going to clean such mess that West has created. Chinese rhetoric is pretty much that we have our own stance so stop pushing us gang-up against Russia.

Posted by: HZ | Mar 8 2022 7:48 utc | 462

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2022 7:47 utc | 461
Math is racist, 2+2 = 22. Don’t laugh, there is a video for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3Yz3PiXZw

Posted by: HZ | Mar 8 2022 7:51 utc | 463

@Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 2:38 utc | 379

And Jimmy Dore keeps promoting The People’s Party. All I can say about that is, “Good luck with that.” If any party gets to the point where it becomes a threat, they will manipulate the laws and the voting rules to eliminate them. Or just ban then as “terrorists” or “white supremacists” or whatever…

It other words: “Resistance is futile”

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 8 2022 7:57 utc | 464

HZ | Mar 8 2022 7:51 utc | 463
That ending was a ripper HZ. Right up there with John Cleese.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2022 8:07 utc | 465

@Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 4:22 utc | 412

Frankly, I consider these claims and the nuke claim (not Zelensky’s statements, but any claim that Ukraine was actually building a nuke) to be more along the lines of “trot out the WMDs if they don’t believe you that the bad guys are bad.” In other words, Russia is taking a page from Bush and Iraq. Now, they may have a lot more evidence than Bush did – which wouldn’t be hard since Bush had none – but until I see actual physical evidence I’m just not that interested, as opposed to being interested in how the war is going overall.
Note: I’m not accusing Russia of lying here.

No, you are just trying to discredit the very credible indications that there were biological weapons being developed close to Russia’s border.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 8 2022 8:18 utc | 466

Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper reports on the escalation in energy sanctions:

Russia warns on oil import ban as little progress is made at Ukraine talks
Fears of an energy war between Russia and the West grew on Tuesday after the United States pushed its allies to ban Russian oil imports as punishment for Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine, where talks on humanitarian corridors made little progress.
Russia warned it could stop the flow of gas through pipelines from Russia to Germany in response to Berlin’s decision last month to halt the opening of the controversial new Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Russia supplies 40 per cent of Europe’s gas.
“We have every right to take a matching decision and impose an embargo on gas pumping through the Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline,” Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak said on Monday.
continues

https://www.dawn.com/news/1678925/russia-warns-on-oil-import-ban-as-little-progress-is-made-at-ukraine-talks
Western media is somewhat more shrill in reporting energy sanctions legislation moving through US congress.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 8 2022 8:30 utc | 467

Western “Elites” , (no they are not the best), are so crazy to talk about an import stop of Russian gas, oil and coal and at the same time thy hope for social unrest in Russia.
What they think will happen here when we cannot drive our cars anymore and cannot heat our houses?

Posted by: Mats | Mar 8 2022 8:46 utc | 468

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Posted by: UnCopEra | Mar 8 2022 8:48 utc | 469

@Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 8 2022 3:49 utc | 401
Hi, I have used your tip to access RT and Sputnik. I am on manjaro linux. I did change the etc/hosts file as it was described for ubuntu users.
I am now able to access both sites but the frame of the content does not display, so it makes it almost impossible to read…
If you (or anyone else) can help me solving that I will be very gretefull.
Best regards, UnCopEra

Posted by: UnCopEra | Mar 8 2022 8:54 utc | 470

I live in the West and I can now report first hand that the chickens of our reckless leaders have started to come home to roost. I went round the supermarkets yesterday and I noticed a substantial decrease in the goods on shelves. I’m sure this is due to supermakets hoarding goods, because they suspect a drastic and non-favorable change is in the horizon. Our national governments are still trying to camouflage and play it cool, but the business people have seen how the wind is blowing. It’s scary when one remembers that the Russia’s retaliations to the mindless sanctions are yet to come. I’m angry with all of us for being so passive and allowing this to happen to us. Of course I know we, the people, are in captivity because we have been disempowered by the rulers.

Posted by: Steve | Mar 8 2022 8:56 utc | 471

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 8 2022 4:21 utc | 411
No problem, simple mixup due misread single word, it happens.

Posted by: Abe | Mar 8 2022 9:03 utc | 472

@Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 2:38 utc | 379
And Jimmy Dore keeps promoting The People’s Party. All I can say about that is, “Good luck with that.” If any party gets to the point where it becomes a threat, they will manipulate the laws and the voting rules to eliminate them. Or just ban then as “terrorists” or “white supremacists” or whatever…
It other words: “Resistance is futile”
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 8 2022 7:57 utc | 464

Interesting conclusion from you both….
Resistance is vital in my play book. An absolute necessity even. Sure I recognise the gross manipulation of the electoral system to negate competition against the duopoly but if there is no overt contest after the sellout of the last disgraceful campaign then revolution and death by National Guard and Cop is the other alternative.
There is no time or space for despair here, only scope for concerted action against the machine. Such action needs all of our support because if we permit this to continue then we will all be visited by the USA’s Azov battalion sooner or later. It is a global cancer of apartheid.
So I am with the People’s Party movement and outright destruction of the fakes of the democrats and republicans.
If there is no political restoration process in the USA after its current defeat in Ukraine then the battle in the next decade is that much harder.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 8 2022 9:11 utc | 473

On a funny unrelated note, propagandists like Bellingcat should keep away far from Russian federations legal territory. He and his ilk will end up in jail thanks to new law Putin signed.

Posted by: Abe | Mar 8 2022 9:12 utc | 474

fye
the 36-second clip is at this link, of young Joe in 1997 as reported by C-Span – clip viewed 1.7 million times. Biden was on the Foreign Relations Committee in the Senate back then.
the Political and Military Elites all knew that moving NATO one inch east would infuriate the Russians, and eventually get a reaction. How could it be otherwise?
https://twitter.com/ImReadinHere/status/1500782351831662592
Biden in 1997 saying that the only thing that could provoke a “vigorous and hostile” Russian response would be if NATO expanded as far as the Baltic states

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 8 2022 9:16 utc | 475

@Albert Whit | Mar 8 2022 6:18 utc | 443
Agree, sometimes I’d like to know from where people speak to see ‘socialists’ everywhere, huhu.
There’s none in the US (no, Bernie isn’t socialist), no left in power at the moment in France, nor in Germany or Italy, for what I know. Even if I’d want to, a real left in power in France after April elections is highly unlikely.
And amongst the banksters who skilfully stole democracy in the EU, there’s certainly no socialist.
People can blame the left where it’s in charge indeed. Cuba and Venezuela have their name dragged through the mud often enough to convince the US citizen that affordable health for all is an evil communist plot.

Posted by: Francil | Mar 8 2022 9:19 utc | 476

Suicide is a somewhat less romantic end for Bandera than assassination.
Posted by: too scents | Mar 8 2022 7:24 utc | 457
Execution, not assassination.
Bandera was a criminal and an unrepentant nazi.

Posted by: BadNews | Mar 8 2022 9:20 utc | 477

From Quora:
‘What will the next (nuclear) war be like)?
Probably a lot different then what most people would expect. Conventional wisdom conjures up images of two nuclear powers who, after a period of conventional and tactical nuclear warfare, suddenly unleash their strategic arsenals in some firey death spasm at their opponent leaving both sides to have more or less “shot their wad”. During Cold War, when the US/USSR possessed 60,000+ weapons combined, nuclear war fighting planners had the ability to saturate an enemy’s military, political and economic infrastructure and still have weapons left over. (Not that they’d be needed for a long time, if ever, but planning for the future is taken into consideration.)
However, with the end of the Cold War and the vast drawdown in the size of nuclear arsenals as a whole, there are now more warheads now in storage or pending destruction than there are in the strategic stockpiles of the US and Russia. The US has about 1400 while Russia has about 1600. Everything else outside of those numbers are either in storage or shorter range tactical weapons like the US B61 nuclear bomb or the Russian 9K720 Iskander – Wikipedia.
So, militaries have to do more with less and as a result of this, warhead yields have dropped while their accuracy has greatly increased. For example, the bulk of the US Trident fleet will soon be far more accurate while launching from a sub than a land-based ICBM would be, which in turn now makes our Minuteman III missiles less important in the grand scheme of things and was one of the reasons why they only carry single warheads as opposed to MIRV’d vehicles.
So, the land-based ICBM force could be taken out and there would still be plenty of a 2nd strike force left to retaliate.
Having that ability also limits an aggressor on what targets they are going to hit. The popular “theory” always seems to be that when war comes, all the major cities of NATO and Russia are going to be prime targets, despite the fact that many analysts dispute such talk. As do I. Attacking cities only allows for one thing, it invites retaliation on your own populace which no sane leader will accept willingly. So, unless a city has a vital political or military target located near it, common sense says they wouldn’t be hit. But there are other reasons of which I will get to in a moment.
So, how could a potential conflict start? Well, history teaches us that in just about every example, with the exception of Cuba in ’62 and Middle East in ‘73, nuclear war almost came by accident. Whether it was a training tape left in a computer, faulty switches or poor command and control services. It was accidents and miscalculations that brought the world to the brink.
But setting accidents and human error aside for the sake of this question, an exchange could very well begin “the old fashioned way” that is, as part of an escalation of an already existing conflict.

A conflict that likely begins conventionally for a period of time until one side determines that they have a need to use tactical nuclear weapons. Side B attacks Side A’s army units who are advancing on their territory. Side A then retaliates and you see the gradual use of weapons on or near the battlefield.

Its here where things become somewhat disjointed from past theories on nuclear warfare. Using tactical weapons will help to “level the playing field” somewhat for their conventional forces. So it’s here, where one side may decide to cross the strategic nuclear threshold by “sending a message” to their opponent. It’s here where you could see the start of a series of small scale exchanges where 10 weapons are fired here, 20 are fired there, over a period of days or even weeks as politicians work behind closed doors to arrange a cease fire.. No mass launch but instead a “tit for tat” exchange to see who will get more favorable terms at the negotiating table.
As I mentioned earlier, these targets would almost exclusively be limited to military targets. You don’t need to target cities because in many cities, especially those in the US and the West, there will already be chaos. The cities themselves will grind to a halt as people attempt to flee, emergency services and local government personnel will stop arriving for work to stay with their families, all in the belief that their city will be hit next and when cities start shutting down, national economies start becoming affected. All without having to attack that city directly.
So, keeping an exchange small but persistant has benefits all of its own. The US has long studied what’s called Nuclear utilization target selection or better known as “NUTS” when it comes to waging a nuclear war as opposed to the much fabled Mutual assured destruction or MAD Doctrine.
A gradual exchange also has the benefit of allowing one side to keep a healthy reserve of weapons on hand for future use.
So its very much possible that you could see more of a prolonged nuclear exchange that’s on a smaller scale as opposed to the popular “use ’em or lose ’em“ scenarios.’

Posted by: Hidari | Mar 8 2022 9:24 utc | 478

Posted by: Hidari | Mar 8 2022 9:24 utc | 478

Warfare will move to targets in space before nuclear weapons are used.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 8 2022 9:31 utc | 479

WJ | Mar 8 2022 3:54 utc ( 404)
you surprise me. In former times there was something called “diplomacy” and it involves something called “strategic ambiguity”. In modern times it is a classroom of delinquents shouting into the camera and demanding their tantrums are recognised.
Diplomacy is balancing when cooperation is possible and on what issues. Iran is not a state which Russia finds appetising – it has some congruence of interest but Russia is not Muslim and not aligned with Iranian goals. It has useful contacts with Israel and technology transfer and lots of Russian-speakers there which dilutes US influence.
Western society is decadent and corroded with infantilism rampant. That the chaotic chump known as “greased piglet” Johnson could mean with Fascist Trudeau after his attempt to overthrow parliamentary government – in 2015 and 2022 – shows British voters what they are dealing with and must punish in May elections. Rutte is likewise a fool with a non-financial person – like France – as Finance Minister.
Blair perverted the British Foreign Office and changed its composition – Liz Truss is now the apex of a kindergarten. During the Afghan Rout her civil servants were at home or on vacation ignoring the emails of the desperate. Moore at MI6 was deep in the Turkic forays into Central Asia and complicit in the Zelensky debacle – now he spouts LGBT>>>>> crap and is as irrelevant as she is…….whilst another candidate for his position sits as UK Ambassador at the UN.
The whole edifice of Western Self-Satisfaction is undergoing controlled-demolition. Energy Costs will blow up Western societies already stretched to breaking point by Lockdowns and Gene Therapy injections

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 8 2022 9:33 utc | 480

Before the west suicides itself it will get to witness the annihilation of the USA’s crack Azov battalion with extreme prejudice. Here is a report from Брат за брата that describes the encirclement of the entire Donetsk front by the victory forces of freedom.
The decades of malign work by the UKUSA and its NATO cretins led on by the remnants of Nazi Europeans have led to this:- fascist collapse after ten days of battle with a conventional force army.
Song for Azov and its western supporters.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 8 2022 9:36 utc | 481

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 8 2022 9:11 utc | 473
All I can say is, “Good luck with that.”
My approach is different. I am focused on how I can survive the coming mess. That will be the focus of my Substack. I see what is essentially a “cyberpunk” future coming (indeed it’s already here, just not fully developed.) Here’s one description: “Corporations run cities, states, and countries, and are often dirty, politicians control much of the big picture and are just as dirty, plunging the world into a dystopian divide of classes. Technology is far more advanced than it is now, but as mentioned, juxtaposed with societal decay, ruin, and problems.”
Look around. Seem familiar? The tech isn’t as advanced now as it is in those stories – yet – but that’s coming.
Certain knowledge and skills will be necessary to navigate it. Most people don’t have those skills. The protagonists in cyberpunk fiction have those skills, and that’s how they are fighting the society they exist in. They’re not spending their time joining political parties. Granted, a lot of times they fail in whatever quest the story is about. And frankly, they don’t really have an impact on the society or the powers that be in those stories. But in general cyberpunk fiction, in concert with other concepts, describe a model of how to deal with the society we’re in.
Everyone else is going to end up like the “salarymen”, the corporate wage-slaves, described in these stories. Or the “SIN-less”, the homeless ones on the street. Those are your two options in the corporate world of the future.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 9:41 utc | 482

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 8 2022 9:16 utc | 475
Awesome. Thanks.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 9:44 utc | 483

@Steve | Mar 8 2022 8:56 utc | 471
“Of course I know we, the people, are in captivity because we have been disempowered by the rulers.”
No, you (& others, but not myself) have been disempowered because your initial premise is incorrect. I fight it as best I can.
These people are not rulers; they are our servants in democratic systems of governance. Start there, change your paradigms, and be particular with your descriptive words.
The course of resolution begins with discourse as owners, not as victims: as we speak, so shall we think (eventually). Then so we can act etc. It is called “agency” and the focus of the Oligarchy-owned MSM is to keep us forgetting this actual state of affairs.
The state of mass hypnosis begins with a simple but obvious fact that cannot be denied or accepted — e.g., the imprisonment and torture of Julian Assange in front of our faces; or Building 7 falling down by itself and not investigated.
Then this grain of undisputed cognitive dissonance is then built on like layers of a pearl around a grain of sand. The end outcome is a complient population (in the main) lead with engineered distractions towards (or away from) outcomes — a precious pearl beyond price for the fascist systems with no idea of separation between state and business. In polite lingo, it’s called “regulatory capture” of a weak government. It really started in this epoc with Reagan and Thatcher.

Posted by: imo | Mar 8 2022 9:46 utc | 484

Posted by: Hidari | Mar 8 2022 9:24 utc | 478
That might work for a while. If the two parties actually negotiate over a ceasefire. But what happens if one side is lunatic or simply unable to accept defeat? Look around today. How rational is the US side today? They’re literally bombing their own economy into the Stone Age over a hysterical hatred of being defeated by Russia in Ukraine. If you have countries run by idiots who aren’t fit to run a 7/11 store, as Martyanov likes to say, sooner or later the tit-for-tat breaks down, or it never starts that way at all.
In any event, it’s all speculation until it happens. All wars are specific in their circumstances of how they started and how they progressed. Technological war is different from WWI or WWII. So WWIII will be different. I don’t have time for speculations on how WWIII could start.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 9:50 utc | 485

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 8 2022 5:29 utc | 433
“humanity is on the brink of potential evolution…..”
They are. Except it’s called “Transhumanism” which is a dirty word around here. 🙂
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 5:49 utc | 437
That’s not evolution, that’s body modification and selective breeding.
And given that in nowadays economic paradigm, such things as implied by transhumanism would be mediated by money; it is tantamount to arguing that wealthy people shouldn’t only have better houses, better transportation, better healthcare.
They should also be able to BUY a methuselah lifespan, BUY cognitive, sensory and bodily augmentations, BUY optimized offspring.
And it’s a decent enough cover for caring more for individual performance than for, you know, HUMANITY.
It’s cool for science fiction, in real life it’s a thinly veiled psychopathic pursuit of physical apotheosis by rich bastards.
So yeah, it should be a dirty word because it’s bourgeois bullshit of the highest caliber and the people in any position to enact such programs are also the most inclined to say “fuck humanity!” afterwards – in fact they already think it.
Been there, read that – outside of sci-fi it’s nothing more than a cover for sick rich fucks who want a bionic eye on their dick for 900 years.

Posted by: BadNews | Mar 8 2022 9:57 utc | 486

Thom Payne | Mar 7 2022 23:14 utc | 291
Wait till Russia now gets on board and discovers Linux
Russia discovered Linux quite a while ago. Astra Linux is used by the Military and Government and major companies. Schools are transferring to it, and recommend it to pupils. https://www.astralinux.ru

Posted by: Cossack | Mar 8 2022 10:02 utc | 487

Bad News #487
Agreed and thank you for that retort, I will shout you at the bar.
On transhumanism…

So yeah, it should be a dirty word because it’s bourgeois bullshit of the highest caliber and the people in any position to enact such programs are also the most inclined to say “fuck humanity!” afterwards – in fact they already think it.
Been there, read that – outside of sci-fi it’s nothing more than a cover for sick rich fucks who want a bionic eye on their dick for 900 years.

Plus its a dis-empowering cop out for those with a short dedication span.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 8 2022 10:05 utc | 488

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 8 2022 9:33 utc | 480
Regarding Russia Iran relations: I think Russian and Iranian interests will be diverging. On Syria, they worked together. But now the EU is looking to get away from Russian oil and gas and Iran has plenty of both. Iran could replace Russia, become a competitor and by that taking away the leash Russia has on the EU. Does Iran already have terminals to ship LNG to Europe? Maybe these diverging interests will have consequences for the JCPOA negotations, Russia could be stalling them. If I was the US, I would try very hard to peel off Iran from Russia and China. Iran is central to the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative. There is no other way to Europe than via Iran below the Caspian Sea. However, I think the US is incapabale of being an honest broker for once and would rather put Iran down and up. So Russia could be lucky with the US approach on Iran.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 8 2022 10:13 utc | 489

@Jonathan W | Mar 8 2022 7:36 utc | 459

The point is to make people behave and think as irrationally as possible, building on the psyop that has been going on for the past couple of years with the Covid theatre. And the powers that be know how to take it from there.

Agreed, that is clearly the case. When these people behave like they have done the last 2 years and are openly supporting nazi-controlled government in ukraine, there is no going back. They must be sanctioned by the peoples of Europe and America until they vacate their positions of power.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 8 2022 10:13 utc | 490

@uncle tungsten | Mar 8 2022 9:11 utc | 474

Resistance is vital in my play book. An absolute necessity even.

That was my point, sorry if it was not clear.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 8 2022 10:19 utc | 491

Alina Lipp for anti-spiegel reports from Donetsk front dated March 1.
I trust the Chenchen brigades are up to the task to totally dispatch of the Azov gangsters and their running dogs.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 8 2022 10:23 utc | 492

Arne Hartmann #490

However, I think the US is incapable of being an honest broker for once and would rather put Iran down and up. So Russia could be lucky with the US approach on Iran.

You must be kidding. USA = honest broker… for once…. TRY NEVER.
Since when was it ever an honest broker other that collecting the fees from you to cross the river Styx.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 8 2022 10:27 utc | 493

Norwegian #492
“That was my point, sorry if it was not clear.”
I figured that but I could not resist the opening to chime in 🙂
On your #491 above, I believe the peoples of europe need to assemble a durable and aggressive anti-fascist program pronto and go hunting and naming the facilitators of this stupid political evolution within their own nations and the NATO goon squad. The WEF might have earned some intense push back and perpetual denigration as well.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 8 2022 10:33 utc | 494

@BadNews | Mar 8 2022 9:57 utc | 487 about transhumanism

It’s cool for science fiction, in real life it’s a thinly veiled psychopathic pursuit of physical apotheosis by rich bastards.

I’m jealous of how nicely said it is. I wish I’d have come up with it first.

Posted by: Francil | Mar 8 2022 11:12 utc | 495

@uncle tungsten | Mar 8 2022 10:33 utc | 495
Good 🙂
re anti-fascist program: Yes. The responsible must be identified and prosecuted according to law.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 8 2022 11:27 utc | 496

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 8 2022 10:13 utc | 490

However, I think the US is incapabale of being an honest broker for once and would rather put Iran down and up.

Regardless, they Americans would have to atone for the death of Soleimani and the flag of vengeance lowered over the Jamkaran masjid before any friendliness is observed by the Iranians towards the Great Satan …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 8 2022 11:38 utc | 497

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 8 2022 10:13 utc | 490

However, I think the US is incapabale of being an honest broker for once and would rather put Iran down and up.

Regardless, they Americans would have to atone for the death of Soleimani and the flag of vengeance lowered over the Jamkaran masjid before any friendliness is observed by the Iranians towards the Great Satan …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 8 2022 11:38 utc | 498

Posted by: BadNews | Mar 8 2022 9:57 utc | 487
“That’s not evolution, that’s body modification and selective breeding.”
.
You have exactly zero knowledge of the philosophy – which has absolutely nothing to with “rich people.”
Basically you’ve watched too much “Altered Carbon.”

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 8 2022 11:41 utc | 499

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 8 2022 3:49 utc | 401
It might be worth adding MOA to the hosts file
216.92.3.110 moonofalabama.org

Posted by: Ranelagh | Mar 8 2022 12:35 utc | 500