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March 7, 2022
To Punish Russia The ‘Liberal Order’ Attempts To Suicide Itself

Two days ago we looked at why Russia is doing what it does:

Russia understood Zelensky's remark in Munich as a threat by Ukraine to acquire nuclear weapons. It already has the expertise, materials and means to do that.

A fascist controlled government with nukes on Russia's border? This is not about Putin at all. No Russian government of any kind could ever condone that.

I believe that this credible threat, together with the artillery preparations for a new war on Donbas, was what convinced Russia's government to intervene by force.

The 'west' had failed to understand Russia's need to act. It has failed to make the necessary commitments, and accept Russia's reasonable demands, to avoid the struggle. In consequence it will now fall apart. The knee-jerk reaction to Russia's 'special military operation' in Ukraine will, as Alastair Crooke writes, lead to the end of the 'liberal order':

So Biden, finally, has his foreign policy ‘success’: Europe is walling itself off from Russia, China, and the emerging integrated Asian market. It has sanctioned itself from ‘dependency’ on Russian natural gas (without prospect of any immediate alternatives) and it has thrown itself in with the Biden project. Next up, the EU pivot to sanctioning China?

Will this last? It seems improbable. German industry has a long history for staging its own mercantile interests before wider geo-political ambitions – before, even, EU interests. And in Germany, the business class effectively is the political class and needs competitively-priced energy.

Whilst the rest of the world shows little or no enthusiasm to join with sanctions on Russia (China has ruled out sanctions on Russia), Europe is in hysteria. This will not fade quickly. The new ‘Iron Curtain’ erected in Brussels may last years.

But what of the unintended consequences to last Saturday’s ‘sanctions Blitzkrieg’: the ‘unknowable unknowns’ in Rumsfeld’s famous mantra? The unprecedented switch-off affecting a key part of the Globalist system did not download into a neutral, inert context – It developed into an emotionally hyper-charged atmosphere of Russophobia.

Now reality comes back to bite the inept minions who attempt to rule over us.


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Europe can not sustain this, Russia can:

In sum, the changes set out by von der Leyen and the EU, with surging crude oil costs, could potentially tip global markets into crisis, and set off spiraling inflation. Cost inflation created by energy costs spiraling higher and food disruptions are not so easily susceptible to monetary remedies. If the daily drama of the war in Ukraine starts to fade from public view, and inflation persists, the political cost of von der Leyen’s Saturday drama is likely to be European-wide recession.

“Since well before the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Europeans have been struggling under the weight of runaway energy bills”, OilPrice.com notes. In Germany, for some, one month’s energy costs the same as they used to pay for a whole year; in the UK the government has raised the price cap for energy bills by a whopping 54%, and in Italy a recent 40% domestic energy cost hike could now nearly double.

The New York Times describes this impact on local businesses and industries as nothing short of “frightening”, as all kinds of small businesses across Europe (prior to last week’s events) have been forced to cease their operations as energy costs outweigh profits. Large industries have not been immune to sticker shock either. “Almost two-thirds of the 28,000 companies surveyed by the Association of German Chambers of Commerce and Industry this month rated energy prices as one of their biggest business risks … For those in the industrial sector, the figure was as high as 85 percent.”

And it is not only Europe. Energy prices are based on global markets. As are the prices for many other minerals and metals which have suddenly become rare:


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The U.S. will be hit just as much as Europe. Early today oil prices in Europe hit $139 per barrel, well above last week's market close. They will increase further. Gasoline prices in the U.S. will soon hit $6-7-8 per gallon.


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The attempt by the U.S. to rush towards a new Iran deal to get Iranian oil flooding the markets has failed. Russia, together with Iran, has successfully blocked that move. Sanctions on Russia mean that Iran can not export its enriched uranium to Russia to be turned into nuclear fuel. No Iranian export of enriched uranium means no JCPOA deal. Secretary of State Blinken has failed to understand that. The supposedly ready to be signed return to the nuclear deal is now in jeopardy.

Some U.S. refineries at the south coast are designed to only process heavy oil variants. Since 2019 the U.S. has blockaded heavy oil imports from Venezuela and replaced them with imports of heavy Ural variants from Russia. It has now send too officials to Caracas to try to get Venezuela's oil flowing again. That would of course require to lift all sanctions off Venezuela and to return all confiscated companies and the gold that is owned by that country. It is not going to happen anytime soon.

High end German cars are build with aluminum from Russia. Boeing needs Russian titanium to build planes. These manufacturers will soon start to lay off people. All this while food, heating and mobility costs will increase dramatically. A deep recession combined with strong inflation will rip social cohesion apart. I do expect strong anger in the streets of Europe and the U.S. There will be riots and in consequence a strong political move to the right. The mid-term elections will destroy the Russophobic Democrats.

Michael Hudson notes the immense strategic damage the U.S. has done to itself:

The recent escalation of U.S. sanctions blocking Europe, Asia and other countries from trade and investment with Russia, Iran and China has imposed enormous opportunity costs – the cost of lost opportunities – on U.S. allies. And the recent confiscation of the gold and foreign reserves of Venezuela, Afghanistan and now Russia, along the targeted grabbing of bank accounts of wealthy foreigners (hoping to win their hearts and minds, along with recovery of their sequestered accounts), has ended the idea that dollar holdings or those in its sterling and euro NATO satellites are a safe investment haven when world economic conditions become shaky.

So I am somewhat chagrined as I watch the speed at which this U.S.-centered financialized system has de-dollarized over the span of just a year or two. The basic theme of my Super Imperialism has been how, for the past fifty years, the U.S. Treasury-bill standard has channeled foreign savings to U.S. financial markets and banks, giving dollar diplomacy a free ride. I thought that de-dollarization would be led by China and Russia moving to take control of their economies to avoid the kind of financial polarization that is imposing austerity on the United States. But U.S. officials are forcing them to overcome whatever hesitancy they had to de-dollarize.

This will not just happen with China or Russia but the whole world will over the next years turn away from the dollarized U.S. system:

Nobody thought that the postwar 1945-2020 world order would give way this fast. A truly new international economic order is emerging, although it is not yet clear just what form it will take. But “prodding the Bear” with the U.S./NATO confrontation with Russia has passed critical-mass level. It no longer is just about Ukraine. That is merely the trigger, a catalyst for driving much of the world away from the US/NATO orbit.

The next showdown may come within Europe itself as nationalist politicians seek to lead a break-away from the over-reaching U.S. power-grab over its European and other Allies to keep them dependent on U.S.-based trade and investment. The price of their continuing obedience is to impose cost-inflation on their industry while relinquishing their democratic electoral politics to subordination to America’s NATO proconsuls.

These consequences cannot really be deemed “unintended.”

All the consequences of the 'west's' reaction to Russia's move were foreseeable. It is pure recklessness and stupidity that have allowed them to take place. The 'west' will now get punished for the bad movie it has launched.


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Too bad that I don't speak Russian … It is now the place to be.

Jimmy Salford @1Fubar – 7:06 UTC · Mar 6, 2022

Russia has already been cut off from CNN, Pornhub and Facebook. The US is now working on depriving Russians of MacDonalds and CocaCola. If they keep going with these sanctions, Russians will soon be among the healthiest, well adjusted and best informed people on the planet.

Comments

In the early 1990’s I read a comment concerning the reverberating crash of the USSR marking the end of the then cold war. It spoke of the earth-shattering sound when the other shoe dropped. What we are hearing now?

Posted by: Hal Duell | Mar 7 2022 20:44 utc | 201

I just looked at diesel price here, $4.614/gal, while a week ago it was $4.006. California average gas price is $5.343/gal, diesel $5.692/gal. These are all time highs that will go much higher as I predicted.
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 7 2022 19:42 utc | 153

Vultures are always ready to take their profit, when the oil which you are buying now was bought weeks ago at a much lower price.

Posted by: Olivier | Mar 7 2022 20:45 utc | 202

Allen @171–
You must be a presstitute like those at Lavrov’s presser.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 7 2022 20:46 utc | 203

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 7 2022 20:46 utc | 204
Nah, he’s just woke up from a deep coma since 2014, turned on the TV and the first reflex he had was to comment here and save us from our sins.
Gotta give him an effort prize though…

Posted by: A.L. | Mar 7 2022 20:52 utc | 204

Mixing things up a bit, inserting some creativity into otherwise dull-of-late conversations…
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Boots on the ground, eyes in the sky, MSM follow the plight of the commoner lock-step in the Russo-Ukrainian war. Cyber warriors join in the mêlée, but take a another path, do IT ‘different.’
denunciations
bombard commander’s dacha
fall on deafened ears
—Ret. Ed. Haibun | 03.07.2022 2040Z

Posted by: Ret. Ed. | Mar 7 2022 20:54 utc | 205

However, there is no justification for this invasion.
Posted by: Allen | Mar 7 2022 20:04 utc | 171

It is not an invasion, it is a war of liberation to end a war which lasts for 8 years now, because it is mandatory to get rid of the ukronazis who are killing civilians or taking them as hostages to protect themselves like the cowards they are.
Educate yourself, and take your head out of the sand, ostrich man

Posted by: Olivier | Mar 7 2022 20:56 utc | 206

Please stop feeding the troll….

Posted by: A.L. | Mar 7 2022 20:58 utc | 207

@allen 171
I don’t think you’ve looked deep enough into this
It’s not hard.
Google John Mearsheimer lecture on Ukraine.
It’s about the most simplified, easy to grasp explanation of why Ukraine is the way it is.
It’s Ukraine 101 through a realist, real politick lens
I don’t do links, so if a barfly could post the Mearsheimer link, I’d appreciate it.

Posted by: Cadence | Mar 7 2022 20:58 utc | 208

Saker or Mods? Please!
Can someone tell me how I can tag someone , so that I can get a response from them? Is this not allowed?

Posted by: Brother Ma | Mar 7 2022 21:05 utc | 209

101: US lawmakers reach a bipartisan deal to ban Russian energy imports and end normal trade relations with both Russia and Belarus. Can anybody confirm this?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-07/u-s-lawmakers-strike-deal-to-ban-russian-crude-hike-tariffs?srnd=premium&sref=RPUvqSC0
Early stage of legislature, still needs to come out of the committees and voted on the floors. It will pass, because these lemmings don’t have much up there, they will jump off the cliff without knowing why.
The interesting part is when the freshly passed (if passed) law reaches Biden’s desk will he sign? That depends whether he has a replacement supply, whether the future inflation will be intolerable. He is getting ready for the 2022 mid-term, in which his party in both chambers of the Congress may get slaughtered.
Biden has been playing the Ukraine crisis with 2022 mid-term elections in mind. All past US presidents had done that, when domestic politics bad for voting, gone overseas with war crisis. Always worked.

Posted by: KitaySupporter | Mar 7 2022 21:06 utc | 210

@97
Which is what the US did in WWII and allowed her to be Hegemon.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Mar 7 2022 21:11 utc | 211

Oliver @203–
Thanks for your reply! Alexander Novak, a Russian Deputy Prime Minister, held a presser today and said:
“We understand that in connection with unfounded accusations against Russia regarding the energy crisis in Europe and the imposition of a ban on Nord Stream 2, we have every right to take a ‘mirror’ decision and impose an embargo on gas pumping through the Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline, which today is loaded at the maximum level of 100%. But so far, we are not making this decision. No one will benefit from this. Although European politicians are pushing us to this with their statements and accusations against Russia.” [My Emphasis]
From news reports I’m reading, Russia won’t need to take any action as the West will shoot itself in the head first, although Germany seems to be getting a grip as the real political class says enough:
“Chancellor Olaf Scholz says refusing to ban Russian energy imports is a ‘conscious decision.'”
Meanwhile, the Outlaw US Empire just can’t do enough to harm itself:
“The White House reportedly plans to ban all Russian oil imports to the US, even if it cannot secure the EU’s backing on the matter.”
The bill is led by the two leading Hydrocarbon Senators, and given Congressional and presidential idiocy, will likely be passed and signed into law as soon as Friday.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 7 2022 21:15 utc | 212

Karl 200
Thank You so very much for your work on this.
Oh to have heard Mr Lavrov’s response

Posted by: ld | Mar 7 2022 21:16 utc | 213

“I believe the goal is to save the planet through depopulation.
Posted by: Cadence calls | Mar 7 2022 20:35 utc | 194”
And of course you are correct, albeit with a caveat. We’re in Round 2 of that depopulation/Degrowth agenda. The elite are giving the people of the world ample opportunity to sit up and take notice, so that they can take measures in their own lives that will help them to run the gauntlet. Like how NSDAP gave the jews in Germany three official, unmistakable, public warnings to leave the country. And about half of them sensibly did. By the time Round 3 of the Degrowth agenda comes around it will likely be too late to do much.
The caveat, mentioned above, is that they’re not doing it in order to save the planet. They’re doing it to save themselves and, by extension, we each have unequal opportunity to save us and ours.
This BTW is the elites’ favorite go-to song to play when they all get together to welcome a new initiate lol:
https://youtu.be/7hx4gdlfamo

Posted by: reante | Mar 7 2022 21:23 utc | 214

@Unnamed #145
I confuse nothing.
Payment based on units of gold is goldbug-dom.
And you confuse the difference between reserves and money.
The very mention of a gold standard is the tell.
No fiat currencies have any legally set link to gold – nobody is using a gold standard.

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 7 2022 21:23 utc | 215

The interesting part is when the freshly passed (if passed) law reaches Biden’s desk will he sign? [snip]
Posted by: KitaySupporter | Mar 7 2022 21:06 utc | 211

The question is academic if the bill passes with veto-proof majorities. The Thugs will definitely vote for it, because it’s a win-win for them: They get to be booh-yahs, and if it causes economic collapse, the egg will be on the Dims’ faces. So it all depends on whether the Dims muster enough opposition without appearing like a bunch of Russki collaborators, or even want to try to muster that opposition.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 7 2022 21:24 utc | 216

Thank you b. Allow me to make certain points to make the situation clear and correct you on a few topics that I would ‘incorrect’ and ‘misleading’:
*EU and the U.S. (the West in general) will not sanction China out of the blue in order to see themselves hurt, why would they? China is well-integrated and well-positioned inside the international order and benefits tremendously from it not in spite of it. China is a post-revolutionary nation that is perfectly aware of the stupidity and futility of ideological (Marxist-Maoist) adversity with the West and 40 years of the ‘Great Leap Forward’ is the clear evidence of this reality. China is not in agreement with Russia over the ongoing invasion of Ukraine. China at the recent UNGA session, did not support Russia (only Syria, Eritrea, N.Korea, and Belarus did) and along with the until-now presumed “allies” of Russia e.g. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, and Bolivia she distanced itself from Putin and voted ‘abstain’ which resulted in the passage of the UNGA resolution condemning Russia. This also explains why Biden admin intends to travel (which soon going to visit Spain as a bridge country) to Venezuela to try to mend fix things with Maduro and to fix the oil shortage. Keep in mind that there are many refineries in Texas that are specifically-designed to process the Venezuela’s heavy crude, so consider this a done deal. While China ‘competes’ with the West and is beating it fair and square, Russia has decided to suicide itself to oblivion. Mind you whatever Russia has (minerals, grains, hydrocarbons, rare-earth) there are always other places to make replace them. Yes in the short term it will hurt politically the Biden admin, so be it..this isn’t a bad news. The west will be hurt but Russia’s 1.4 trillion economy (comparable and even smaller than Italy’s) cannot be compared to China’s $15 trillion economy, so there will not be such as gloom and doom scenarios. We are seeing the oil and gas being poured into the market especially after the Iran nuclear deal is revived and when she regains its almost 3 million barrels per day of oil it will calm market tensions. Venezuela too’s with the oil. Biden just signed a new contract with Qatar to send gas to EU in the meantime. In terms of grains, Brazil, Argentina, Canada alone can hike production and fix shortages. Rare earths are mostly in China, Congo, Canada and even the U.S. and Australia can replace. Iran has some of the largest Copper, Steel and Aluminum reserves in the world which Putin’s friend Donald Trump sanctioned back in 2019. So let’s be real. In short, a lot of these current shortages of commodities which Russia itself brought it on to herself (instead of waiting to see win after win automatically taking place without the need for a stupid invasion!), have major ‘DOMESTIC POLITICAL’ ramifications in the short term most and foremost for U.S and Canada and some EU countries (with the exception of Germany).
*On Iran, why did you use outdated bits of news instead of reporting the more recent stuff? A lot of things has happened since then b on the Iran nuclear negotiations, This is Odd! Anyhow… your suggestion that Russia is defending the rights (or interests) of Iran at the ongoing negotiations is false on many fronts as Russia only looks after herself ,after all why would she? this should be a normal thing for countries to pursue their own national interests at the behest of others, this is international relations 101, so morality, feelings, etc don’t matter in the anarchic state of the international affairs and Russia is not only NOT doing Iran any favors, she is severely damaging the country’s wellbeing by pulling off a bizarre move in the form of demanding an official and verifiable American guarantee that would allow Russia being exempt from recent Ukraine-related sanctions to fulfil its interests in Iran. You see, it’s fine to ask the U.S. for exemptions but attaching it to an irrelevant matter, i.e. the Iran nuclear activities which is 99% complete and after months of diplomacy has finally come into some sort of agreement is cruel and senseless.
*On the bit that Russia at the final second suddenly called for the ‘nuclear exemption’ for Russia to be implemented in the JCPOA in order to be able to transfer the excess fissile material from Iran to Russia is 100% incorrect and mis-information to say the least as this specific process will be conducted through the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and not only the west has not sanction Russia on this, but this demand has nothing to do with the transferal of excess material from Iran to Russia. In reality this is a very nasty move by Lavrov and co. plain and simple. Let me explain: Putin and co. directly called on Tony Blinken (and not the 4+1 members and not the EU, but only to the American side) behind Iran’s back which totally caught Iran by surprise and Iranian officials alike (e.g. Iranian F.M. Abdollahian and Senior advisor Mohammad Marandi) yesterday and they not only called on Russia to explain this sudden disruptive move but to fill them in regarding what the heck just going on?! Russia by doing this is artificially and bullyingly attaching its own very recent Ukraine-related sanctions to the nuclear issue of Iran as part of the JCPOA revival which has ongoing for almost two decades in general and almost a full year of back and forth negotiations (since April 2021) in particular. So shame on Putin and co. for doing this last-minute nastiness for endangering the JCPOA implementation. And FYI, the Iran-Russia trade relation doesn’t even exceed $4 billion annually (of which Iranian exports to Russia is approx, $1b), so what “interests” Lavrov mentioned in this context is either meager to you have to look it up ‘elswhere’…Some say Russia wants to sell Iran arms, which is nonsense and for this I provide three reasons: 1. Terrible record of Russia in delivering already agreed and signed contracts e.g. S-300 air-defense systems, 2. Iran already has a thriving indigenous defense industries and makes even better equipment. 3.Russia has been green lighting Israel to bomb the crap out of Iranian troops and assets in Syria for years not and recently ask some large number of Iranian expeditionary forces to ‘politely’ to leave Syria for good.
In sum, Iranian-Russian relations are quite sophisticated and more complex to understand just by pointing out to some bits of news and then draw misleading conclusions from them will do injustice to the facts.

Posted by: Russell Kirk | Mar 7 2022 21:25 utc | 217

@KitaySupporter #211
The US cutting itself off from Russian energy is a non-event. While there are US states (Hawaii, California principally) that have imported Russian oil, they can as easily buy from somewhere else. The volumes involved are relatively small.
For that matter, the US is benefiting from exporting LNG to Europe.
What matters is whether the Europeans want to cut their own economic throats completely by sanctioning Russian energy.

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 7 2022 21:26 utc | 218

I had already read the article, that b posted by Alister Crooke. I would just like to say, that some of the posters in the comments section here are absolutely brilliant with some of their links, like today with what was happening in Eastern Ukraine today? Some bloke their interviewing “young” ladies changing their currency to Russian Rubles. I forget the name of the village, and the reporter and the poster, so did a google search on the village which contains some of the words granite in its name. What lovely ladies…been blasted by both sides at the same time.
Might all be propaganda, but it looked very real to me.
I think I normally disagree – but this is classic c1ue
“Re: physical gold for oil
This is so idiotic as to beggar the imagination.
I can just see someone lugging around the gold to pay for a supertanker full of oil…NOT
People pushing this nonsense are gold bugs trying to seem relevant.
Posted by: c1ue | Mar 7 2022 19:11 utc | 140”

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 7 2022 21:27 utc | 219

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 7 2022 21:23 utc | 216
So if someone writes a post to the effect that a gold standard is clearly undesirable, then that’s a “tell” that they’re a goldbug, since they mentioned the gold standard? That’s really stupid. (Then again that seems to be your niche.)
Imagine living in a universe where the world’s major central banks (both Western and non-Western), the IMF and the BIS are all apparently textbook goldbugs, since they all keep large amounts of monetary gold on their balance sheets and stress its enduring, central role.

Posted by: Unnamed | Mar 7 2022 21:34 utc | 220

I remember when we used to warn that if a war started with Iran, people in the US would be paying $20/gallon for gas.
Well, welcome to the war with Russia! Damn glad I don’t own a car. I follow some people on Youtube who are doing “van life” – living out of vans and ambulances and other vehicles converted into living spaces. They’re going to get hit hard because gas is their biggest expense. Fortunately they don’t pay rent, so they might struggle through.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 21:36 utc | 221

Or Russia could implode. Have to consider that possibility. When making predictions about the future it can be heartbreaking to read the tea leaves to say what you want them to say.
There is a LOT of discontent within Russia too, even among those who love Russia. That is why so many have left Russia even though they still send a LOT of money back.
It is better to keep trying to understand what is really happening. Making predictions is not that rewarding in the long run. Even Nate Silver eventually realized that.
Peace.

Posted by: Khalid | Mar 7 2022 21:36 utc | 222

I read Michael Hudson’s latest article on the Saker blog.

The American Empire self-destructs. But nobody thought that it would happen this fast

Hudson is wrong about one detail. Libya’s gold did not disappear after NATO’s overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi in 2011. The gold and $100 billion worth of foreign assets was confiscated by UN Security Council resolution 1970 on February 26, 2011 – less that a week after the start of the Libyan “revolution”. The excuse was a hoax fabricated by Western human rights organizations, that “Gaddafi had killed 300 of his own solders for refusing to shot at peaceful protesters.” The proof was two grainy videos of 23 Libyan solders killed by Islamists in the Al Baida Massacre.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 7 2022 21:40 utc | 223

“The supposedly ready to be signed return to the nuclear deal is now in jeopardy.”
“Supposedly” is the operative word. It never was ready. That was a bogus MSM concept. Every single day they reported “a deal is near – except Iran needs the US to agree to relieve sanctions and issue a guarantee.” Which means after a year of negotiations, Iran still hadn’t gotten their core requirements. So all the “the deal is near” stuff was complete bullshit. Both sides kept up the pretense for their own reasons – the Iranians to keep negotiating, the Americans to bullshit everyone that they were seriously negotiating.
I said all along that Joe “I’m a Zionist” Biden was not going to return to the JCPOA. Even if he tried, the rabidly anti-Iranian Congress wouldn’t allow it. The only reason the US was “negotiating” at all was to try to impose further restrictions on Iran’s ballistic missile program and support for Hezbollah and Hamas. It was a complete fake.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 21:40 utc | 224

c1ue | Mar 7 2022 21:26 utc | 219
Bowser price is the thing. From what I read some time ago, US started importing a lot of Russian diesel to keep bowser price in the US down. The heavy Urals grade which some refineries require was also needed for diesel and heavier oils. From what I could make out not a lot of diesel is obtained from the light fracked crude?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 21:41 utc | 225

b, “send too officials” s/b “sent two officials”.
Grammar Nazi

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 21:42 utc | 226

: Republicofscotland | Mar 7 2022 20:32 utc | 191
Scary thought:
NATO puts nuclear device in that airbase.At one moment Russian missile will hit the base to destroy all equipment,which detonates the atomic bomb and mr.Putin is said to have made first nuclear strike.During the quarter of an hour confusion at RF toplevel NATO does the real first strike and Barbarossa .2 is on.
Another one:
All those devil’s workshops employing evil scientists need guinea pigs.Ukranian conscripts are said to be of those.Maybe there will be a considerable amount of pathogen infected among the flow of fugitives moving westward.No screening,no testing at the border of the EU,Germany the Netherlands France will be welcoming them,in France they have free trainfare.
A dirty disease outbreak vectored by ukranians to western europe will be easily painted as intentional and put on the account of our beloved Vladimir,so all of the frustration of the last two years will be directed towards the Russian Federation.Hence the Uki action at the ICC.

Posted by: willie | Mar 7 2022 21:42 utc | 227

Saker or Mods? Please!
Can someone tell me how I can tag someone , so that I can get a response from them? Is this not allowed?
Posted by: Brother Ma | Mar 7 2022 21:05 utc | 210
Mate u got the blog mixed up 😂

Posted by: BadNews | Mar 7 2022 21:42 utc | 228

Delays…
Yes there is the extremely important humanitarian goal… BUT
Is there a second tactic at play?
Does Putin WANT the EU/NATO players to commit fighter jets,as well as concentrate their weapons and military resources in one place?
It makes targeting easier.
He doesn’t have to worry as much about NATO actions up north when 17 flights a day have drained resources to Ukraine. Not to mention that concentration of NATO troops ringing western Ukraine that grows every day.
The west may think it is trapping Putin with clever humanitarian proposals that never work out,
But are they going to fall into the pit they’ve dug?
Weeks ago we all wondered when the military technical display would happen…
Rest assured, it is NOT this police action, despite the hype
I think we are much closer to the Russian version of shock and awe now that the different EU states have played their cards.
To think Russia would use shock and awe on Ukraine was delusional. They certainly have the shock and awe capability, ask the Donald Cook
When putin says, ‘we will not forget London’s ( and others) contribution’, you gotta know there is something up his sleeve.
I’d give it a few weeks/days, but it’s coming, as sure as spring

Posted by: Les7 | Mar 7 2022 21:43 utc | 229

@c1ue | Mar 7 2022 19:11 utc | 140
I agree that paying single commodity transactions with physical gold would be foolish. What would not be foolish, would be buying and depositing physical gold at the central banks of reliable countries, like Russia, China, possibly even India and Pakistan, and Iran. Such asset could be used to pay for exports of any kind, commodities and resources as well as chemicals, industrial products, whatever. The gold would not move a lot, but change owner often, even derivatives thinkable.

Posted by: aquadraht | Mar 7 2022 21:46 utc | 230

Cadence calls | Mar 7 2022 20:35 utc | 194
“I believe the goal is to save the planet through depopulation.”
Whatever goal the Greens and the WEF/Gates globalists have, we see how the US and its NATO/EU minions are determined to force a much faster, most direct way to extreme depopulation all at once.
The lust for mass death is the unanimous rage at all upper levels and institutions of Western civilization.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 7 2022 21:49 utc | 231

Saker or Mods? Please!
Can someone tell me how I can tag someone , so that I can get a response from them? Is this not allowed?
Posted by: Brother Ma | Mar 7 2022 21:05 utc | 210

Neither Saker’s site nor this one is set up with the kind of functionality you desire.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 7 2022 21:50 utc | 232

Lately, we all have looked into the developing conflict in Ukraine, the context in which the war broke out and what the end game could look like.
Just now I published a long read analysis on the subject which I would like to share with you: https://geopolitiekincontext.wordpress.com/2022/03/07/de-oorlog-in-oekraine-een-analyse/
For those interested: it is worth to not only read the article, but also the foot notes and embedded links.
As usual, please hit the translate box in the right upper corner.
Any reactions on the article will welcome.

Posted by: Paul-Robert | Mar 7 2022 21:51 utc | 233

@oldhippie (83)
If there were such a place as heaven, George Carlin would be smiling down upon you right now. But, of course, Carlin detested religious fantasies, so he’s not up there. ;>)

Posted by: Rob | Mar 7 2022 21:52 utc | 234

That is why Oil and Banking MERGED by early 1900s! Rockefeller et al and Morgan et al…nearly worldwide, and that includes the Crown, etc … but NOT Russia [failed WW1 and WW2!]
Posted by: chu teh | Mar 7 2022 18:13 utc | 108
There is a view that Russo-Japanese war and the first Russian Revolution in 1905 were actually the war of American oil against Russian oil (Nobel borthers, Baku city).
As for US FRS, rumours say it was boosted if not kickstarted with the gold initially belonging to Russian tzar dinasty, that was hastily moved out to far east and then to USA (during American occupation of Vladivostok).
After that there was no snowflake in hell chance for Russian ex-tzar to make out alive

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 7 2022 21:53 utc | 235

Russia should arm minorities with grievances in enemy countries and also middle eastern and north African groups to disrupt their trade. ATGMs are the best choice and cheap too.
USA is sponsoring nuclear proliferation in Ukraine and Australia. Russia must match this by helping Iran, etc. acquire nukes and allowing China to deploy its nukes on Russian soil.
Australia made it clear that they are getting not just nuclear submarines but also nuclear weapons for strategic deterrence!

Posted by: Jason | Mar 7 2022 21:54 utc | 236

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 7 2022 15:51 utc | 38
Got to by my kid the G.I. Joe with the Kung Fu grip! LOL

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 21:54 utc | 237

@ b and barflies
If as I think in @230 above happens, then there will be a much firmer German policing of net info and I fear our host will be constrained by his own emotions on the topic as well as by officialdom
So, here’s a toast to an eclectic bunch of profoundly humane and sane friends, may the Divine provide you and yours a place of refuge as the world resets around us. May we never lose our voice for truth and the values the allow us to aspire to the image of the Divine.

Posted by: Les7 | Mar 7 2022 21:55 utc | 238

I appreciate the responses to my”save the planet” post
Of course, I don’t believe saving the planet is some altruistic goal of the elites
I should have put quotes around it.
Maybe “save the planet” for themselves is more accurate.
But depopulation, at an accelerated pace, sans nukes and bio, looks to be the aim by using economics.
Cheers.

Posted by: Cadence calls | Mar 7 2022 21:56 utc | 239

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 7 2022 21:26 utc | 219
“For that matter, the US is benefiting from exporting LNG to Europe.”
HOUSTON, Feb 22 (Reuters):-
“The United States last year became Europe’s largest source of liquefied natural gas (LNG), the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) said on Tuesday.
Of LNG imported by European Union member countries and the United Kingdom last year, 26% came from the United States, 24% from Qatar and 20% from Russia, the EIA said.”
I think this will probably surprise a few people.
Where can the 20% Russian gas come from? Not Qatar & Australia – long term contracts have been signed with Japan, China, South Korea – so there is no excess capacity.
According to NGI US terminals are running at full capacity.
Are there enough LNG carriers to to transport the gas?

Posted by: ted001 | Mar 7 2022 22:02 utc | 240

@Russell Kirk | Mar 7 2022 21:25 utc | 218
Sorry, a long and foolish post. China has made her position clear: Neutrality in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, opening the opportunity to act as a trustworthy mediator, while confirming the strategic partnership with Russia.
In the US, not few are already whining that the conflict will aid China a lot against the US, see https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/597062-the-new-us-russia-cold-war-will-accelerate-chinas-rise as an example.
And the crap with the “1.4 trillion economy, like Italy” is so dumb that it arouses pity. By PPP BIP, Russia’s is almost twice that of Italy, and widely at par with Germany. Nominal BIP is widely worthless, even more now as the financial system it relies on is thrown under the bus by the West (congrats).
Maybe the disruptions caused by the sanctions will hit the Russian economy. Same was predicted 2014, and did not work, especially in agriculture.
Funny thing is that the sanctions punish the classes which are closest to the West and global Western capitalism. The Russians used to travel to Western Europe to shop and prolly park some money are the ones most pro western. While nobody will feel lots of compassions when assets of billionaires are seized, a lot of money and property, from many places of the global south (not all or not many nice guys among) will avoid western controlled areas and institutions. The iron curtain may painfully fall on the feet of those who erected it.

Posted by: aquadraht | Mar 7 2022 22:05 utc | 241

Posted by: Allen | Mar 7 2022 20:04 utc | 171
So let me get it right. Civilians are being bombed, the whole country is invaded , Putin has raised the prospect of WWW3 and the west is supposed to do business as usual with Russia? Aren’t Ukrainians humans? This war is abhorrent. It is true that west has helped Russia get to this point and it is true that west has had more than its share of killing innocent people. However, there is no justification for this invasion.
Respectfully, I suggest you inform yourself, take a deep dive
A bit of history and a good place to begin with viewing the very helpful video produced by Olivier Stone and posted @ Olivier | Mar 7 2022 19:24 utc | 143 in this thread.
Then take a read, one of hundreds of articles at Globalresearch site in Canada: Note they do not support Mr. Putin’s invasion.
US-NATO’s Neo-Nazi Government in Kiev. Towards a Scenario of Military Escalation?
{The article was first published 8 years ago}
https://www.globalresearch.ca/americas-neo-nazi-government-in-kiev-towards-a-scenario-of-military-escalation/5380384
within the above link to article is this May 2014 piece sourced to Israeli media
Ukraine: Neo-Nazi Leader Threatens ‘Civil War’
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/177113#.U2R65lfa7VM
AND see those we hugged, said to be “ our freedom fighters” History does repeat.
Kiev regime is not officially a neo-nazi government, except
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-kiev-regime-is-not-officially-a-neo-nazi-government/5384722?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles
Sadly, throughout history there are those who choose to remain uninformed or to become informed because such knowledge is beyond their comfort zone.

Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 7 2022 22:05 utc | 242

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 7 2022 21:40 utc | 224
Yes, I remember the destruction of Libya. I blame The British Government – David Cameron – totally useless too.
Do you know what happened to
” The gold and $100 billion worth of foreign assets was confiscated by UN Security Council resolution 1970 on February 26, 2011 – less that a week after the start of the Libyan “revolution”.”
Did a big plane turn up and physically steal them?
So where physically are these “foreign assets”?
Buried in the Ground somewhere?
Gold is very pretty, and a very good electrical conductor, but in its natural state it is very soft – almost completely useless at eg building a shelter, or a spade to dig and grow food.
I don’t know, which is why I ask.
Where is The Gold?
Tony

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 7 2022 22:08 utc | 243

@Roger 183
I doubt very much that the bull from the Ukies will stop – remember Baghdad Bob – we now have Kiev Kevin – as everybody mentions the Ukies and their Western Allies are roundly wining the propaganda war often by exaggerating or outright invention and this has some potentially bad implications
a. Deluded decision makers living in a fantasy world will make some seriously dumb decisions – like NATO intervention leading to the end of the world
b. Makes it very difficult to achieve a negotiated peace – stopping the loss of life
c. When the penny finally drops that people have been deceived- expect a pretty angry reaction and a final peace may never come
My Grandpa came from Kharkov and moved to Russia in the 1930’s and married my Russian grandmother – many folks in Russia & Ukraine have relatives on both sides of the border – the hatred was started by the nationalist nutters in the west and may sadly never be cured.

Posted by: Aslangeo | Mar 7 2022 22:09 utc | 244

since Venezuela is back in the news it would behoove the Horsetrading Theory of Everything to announce that both Venezuela and Bolivia will go to the US. Venezuela always was the other side of the Ukraine trade, since if you recall the Russian troops that were sent to Venezuela a couple few years ago. So there it is, a one for one trade: Ukraine for Venezuela.
And then Bolivia to the US also, because it needs the lithium and stuff.

Posted by: reante | Mar 7 2022 22:10 utc | 245

Are there enough LNG carriers to to transport the gas?
Posted by: ted001 | Mar 7 2022 22:02 utc | 241
Only if everyone in Europe will hold it in. 😛

Posted by: A.L. | Mar 7 2022 22:11 utc | 246

ted001 | Mar 7 2022 22:02 utc | 241
That 20% is LNG. I’m not sure of the percentage of LNG to piped gas Europe imports, but the majority of Russian gas I think is piped into Europe. 40% of Europe’s gas comes from Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 22:13 utc | 247

@Astuteobserver II (92) ” The west did not fail to see the outcome, this war was exactly what they wanted. This was even stated in a white house press briefing. You could argue it was a slip of the tongue, but I don’t. USA and it’s allies wanted this. This was the exact scenario it wanted.”
I agree completely that the West wanted war. They lured Russia into a trap, or so they thought. But being of rather middling intelligence they failed to foresee the full consequences of their scheming. The trap has ensnared them, and they will soon discover that they have few options: 1) capitulate to Russia’s (very reasonable) security demands; 2) continue in a stalemate situation which drains all parties, but some more than others; and 3) total war and the end of civilization. Well, we always knew that blowing ourselves to smithereens would be the ultimate folly of people who are not nearly as smart as they think they are.

Posted by: Rob | Mar 7 2022 22:17 utc | 248

Posted by: A.L | Mar 7 2022 18:21 utc | 114
As one of those who disparaged the post, naturally I agree. Posting that post wasn’t “wrong” – I don’t do “wrong”, I do “factually incorrect”. It was merely not up to par of a real military analyst. Had it been posted over at Martyanov’s blog, it would have been savaged much worse than here.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 22:21 utc | 249

Posted by: JB | Mar 7 2022 18:39 utc | 124
“I hope the Russian side will appear and set out its arguments and facts.”
Once Ukraine’s government is changed, that court case will be moot. It’s just another “Hail, Mary” by Zelensky. Ignore it.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 22:25 utc | 250

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 17:36 utc | 93
Hi Peter you are in WA correct?
I can open the link here in Qld. And I usually try when you mention yours are blocked and I haver not so far had a problem with any of the links you’ve mentioned except of course with RT which is actually blocked.
I think it must be your internet provider, can you get a dongle and try another provider just to check? Otherwise it could be the WA government forcing providers to block certain IP’s. I am with IInet and I usually have no problem with a vodaphone dongle I have as a backup.

Posted by: K | Mar 7 2022 22:27 utc | 251

Posted by: Seward | Mar 7 2022 19:09 utc | 139 (3) Alexander Artamonov, Editor-in-chief of Radio SPUTNIK in French reports…
Link, please. Also on the nuke. Google search, nothing.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 22:32 utc | 252

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 22:13 utc | 248
Russia is planning to build LNG facilities, near our part of NS2, not far from SPb
So, basically everything that Germany won’t buy “from pipe” would be liquified, poured into USA-banner tanker and then moved to Germany by see, where it would be sold with USA’s premium commission. Just like Germany does to Ukraine today with pipe gas.
That’s life, that’s pecking order. You want American “moleculas of freedom” – you have to pay for them.

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 7 2022 22:33 utc | 253

Posted by: JB | Mar 7 2022 19:16 utc | 141
“I am also not in the business of partitioning countries and generously offering their parts left and right, like so many in this blog find it apparently proper to do.”
Just blew your motivation, dude.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 22:34 utc | 254

K | Mar 7 2022 22:27 utc | 252
Victoria. It was the video link at 71 that came up as being not available in this country. Just went back and tried again and it now works for me also.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 22:36 utc | 255

Funny, for some reason i always supposed AU1 being for Austria instead 😀

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 7 2022 22:38 utc | 256

Paul-Robert | Mar 7 2022 21:51 utc | 234
I do have some minor points, but on the whole it is a narrative from 2007 forward I can agree with.
Any conspiracy sections on your site will put me off.
Miss some points of the disinformaton scheme by the western powers and allies … re: Michael Weiss – PropOrNot – Hamilton 68 Dashboard – Henry Jackson Society – NeoCons On the Thames – Khodorkovsky – The Interpreter – Anne Applebaum – Legatum Institute – Christopher Chandler.
I saw on your twitter feed Rob de Wijk of the Clingendael Institute. Originally it was founded for peace studies and on many Dutch universities scholars did remarkable work. Rob de Wijk is not a Henk Neuman and I have been quite disappointed in the move towards a right wing think tank for studies of war, not peace. Especially Arend Jan Boekestijn is a rightwing warmonger. It fits the NATO narrative from a defense alliance and, after the Article 5 trap into a 20 year war in Afghanistan – Iraq – Libya – Syria .. Europe is sucked into a role as proxy for America’s war against Russia. As Macron truthfully uttered: “Russia is part of Europe and we need Russia for Europe’s security.” The cowardly British who forced Brexit, are self-sufficient as an energy producer. The old men Joseph Luns and Charles De Gaulle were right telling the EEC group of nations, letting the UK join will bring plenty of trouble.
The choice of the White House not to meet the Kremlin van talks earlier this year will be judged as a provocation for war. The US avoid war on home soil. The European Union has cracked on an East-West divide, or Old and New, and will not recover from this debacle. Global situation is much worse than the Cuban Missile crisis in October 1962.

Posted by: Oui | Mar 7 2022 22:39 utc | 257

Posted by: BadNews | Mar 7 2022 19:31 utc | 149
“Since when is the GODDAMN PENTAGON a medical outfit???”
Your point is valid. However, the Pentagon is a military outfit and militaries have to be concerned with biowarfare. Which is why bioresearch is financed by the military in many countries. I noted in an earlier post that Taiwan’s BSL4 lab is run by Taiwan’s military.
Naturally, that doesn’t mean they aren’t also funding the research for their own aggressive military purposes. But you can’t automatically jump from one to the other without evidence.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 22:39 utc | 258

@Paul-Robert | Mar 7 2022 21:51 utc | 234
I read your blog post, good work, and I agree to nearly all of it. Only one thing: “The violation of international law”. Here I beg to differ.
International law is customary law. There is no paragraph. There are some principle laid down in the UN founding documents, and previously formulated in the Kellog-Briand declaration of 1927. But all that has few authority. When GW Bush was accused of international law violation, he laughingly mocked “then sue me”. Primitive and cynical as this was, there was truth in it, more truth than renaming every aggression and incursion “legitimate self defense” to uphold the delusion of the UN declaration.
We have long changed to a customary international law where Leo Strauss and Carl Schmitt are ruling, where might is right, and souvereignty the rule about the state of emergency. This is not nice and not fair, but reality.
Maybe, if humanity survives this era, we may reach a new equilibrium. not with moralistic camouflage, but with negotiated rules among all participants, where the less powerful, by weapons, economy, and media, have a say too.

Posted by: aquadraht | Mar 7 2022 22:39 utc | 259

If anyone is interested in opinion / analysis from an objective source, you can read this item from from an American who has walked the walk.
“You are either with us or against us. ”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/weve-had-enough-of-zero-sum-democracy/
The author is Peter van Buren
“Van Buren served in the U.S. Department of State for 24 years, including a year in Iraq as a team leader for two Provincial Reconstruction Teams (PRTs).[1]
After his book, We Meant Well: How I Helped Lose the Battle for the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi People, was published in 2012 Van Buren claims to have experienced a series of escalating, adverse actions.[2][3] His former employer, the U. S. State Department, claimed van Buren had not properly cleared his book for publication under Department rules, and that the book contained unauthorized disclosures of classified material.[4] The Washington Post noted that “Van Buren has tested the First Amendment almost daily.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_van_Buren
Fortunately some truth tellers don’t end up in Belmarsh Prison, successor to the Tower of London.

Posted by: Bubbles | Mar 7 2022 22:40 utc | 260

I, for one, would really like to see b respond to Russell Kirk @218.
Here’s my dilemma, during Russia’s military operation in Syria, I was extremely upset that Russia allowed Israel to bomb Iranian assets fighters and installations, in Syria.
Another thing that really bothered me was Russia not making good on promises to deliver S-300 missile defense systems to Iran.
Now, at the 11th hour, Russia makes demands in regards to the JCPOA that could kill the deal. Iran suffered greatly for too long from Trump’s sanctions. It’s enough. They must be lifted. If anyone should understand how much Iran suffered; it’s Putin, as now Russia is being subjected to same.
I stated at the time that Russians and Iranians were fighting side by side and that Russia should stop acting like a fair-weathered friend. And it’s serious because Iran suffered casualties at the time from Israeli strikes. Putin had pull with Netanyahu, and could have used some leverage to keep him at bay.
On the other issue, I really don’t understand why he held back on sending Iran the missile defense.
I’m disappointed Putin was not more mindful at the time that they were on the same side together in Syria and, he might actually need Iran’s help in the future, and now that time has arrived. ​

Posted by: Circe | Mar 7 2022 22:42 utc | 261

willie @228–
Atomic bombs cannot be detonated by the action you describe. They can only explode when activated by their own internal primer.
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I suggest this article about the Ukraine issue through Serbian eyes.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 7 2022 22:42 utc | 262

A little more from tass on the bio labs in Ukraine
https://tass.com/world/1418339
“”Firstly, the biological situation is monitored in areas where, the Pentagon says, the deployment of NATO’s military contingents is likely. Secondly, there is the collection and transportation to the United States of samples of highly pathogenic microorganisms. And thirdly, research into likely agents of biological weapons, specific for the given region, which have natural froci and can be transmitted to humans,” Kirillov said.”
Enhancing pathogens that naturally occur in a given area would be like salting the earth. Perhaps a little more doable than trying to target a genetic group.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 22:43 utc | 263

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Mar 7 2022 19:43 utc | 156
Agreed. The immediate jump from “there is a BSL4 lab” to “they’re gonna attack Russia with anthrax” is not justified absent more concrete evidence. Which is not to say that some, perhaps many of these labs, are not very suspicious, particularly in Ukraine and Georgia. If the Russians have proof of weaponization experiments, it needs to be explicit about that and provide the documents.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 22:44 utc | 264

Mercouris reports that China is expressing a limited solidarity with Russia and yet Al-Jazeera reports here that China is participating in limited sanctions. What is China doing? Hedging its bets?

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 7 2022 22:47 utc | 265

The Russell Kirk crap @218 is just that, crap. And I’m not going to waste my time refuting it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 7 2022 22:47 utc | 266

Saker or Mods? Please!
Can someone tell me how I can tag someone , so that I can get a response from them? Is this not allowed?

Posted by: Brother Ma | Mar 7 2022 21:05 utc | 210
It is one of the most important principles that this site works by that nobody can make anybody else respond to anything, participation is always 100% voluntary, not compelled.
I know, it is a lot different than the coercive situations we are all dealing with all the time, but after you get used to it, you won’t find it so strange, and you can even begin to see why some people like it.

Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 7 2022 22:48 utc | 267

it does not feel Iran thinks Russia makes any “unreasonable demands” w.r.t JCPOA
https://en.irna.ir/search?q=jcpoa

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 7 2022 22:51 utc | 268

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 20:07 utc | 172
“US does not do defense, only offence, so it is hard to believe all these pentagon labs are about defending against future disease outbreaks, rather than labs involved in development of bio weapons.”
As I mentioned in my last post, militaries all over the world have to be concerned about biowarfare *against them.* They’re not “defending against disease outbreaks”, they are defending themselves against biowar. This is how they justify their research. Whether they are developing biowarfare agents for their *own* aggressive use is another matter. I have no doubt many of them are.
“Just a matter of getting solid evidence of their programs.”
Which hasn’t been produced yet in this particular instance. People seem to have difficulty distinguishing between “connect the dots” evidence, “real” evidence and “proof.” It can be completely justified in being suspicious based on the first two, but condemnation only occurs on the third. Basic principles of law.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 22:51 utc | 269

Posted by: aquadraht | Mar 7 2022 21:46 utc | 231
There is indeed no reason countries with a healthy relationship should have to conduct trade essentially by barter with physical gold on one side of every transaction. More probably settlement in gold would be between the central banks on a net basis, perhaps every month or every quarter or so. For example, trade between Russia and China could be done in rubles and yuan (it already is to some degree), and unless the bilateral trade is perfectly balanced, at least one of the central banks would be building up a surplus of the other country’s currency (reflecting essentially a loan to the other country, denominated in their currency).
To whatever extent they’re not comfortable with keeping reserves in the other country’s currency (could you for example blame the Chinese for not wanting to keep large ruble balances for long stretches of time, given how Russia allows repeated massive devaluations of its currency, largely through pure give-aways by its neoliberal central bank to Western creditors and speculators?), they could sell that currency for gold and settle the balance that way. (The ability to do this may well have been of the motives for Russia and China to link the Moscow and Shanghai gold exchanges together a few years back.)
The reason that Western countries should have to pay for every shipment of oil or gas in physical gold is precisely that these countries are hostile to Russia and also untrustworthy in general. If you don’t make them pay in advance in a tangible asset, they will take delivery of the oil or the gas, then not pay and then laugh at you. They will then be furious if they don’t receive new shipments on the same terms (i.e. for free) and claim to their populations and the world that you are “weaponizing” the energy relationship, as they said all along that you would do.
If Russia allows the West to pay in dollars and euros, that money will simply immediately be frozen (stolen). Russia is already expected to receive payment in dollars and euros and then not be able to spend it on anything it needs to import. This is what Germany means when they say there should be an exception for energy transactions in the SWIFT ban.
People have mentioned that Russia can demand payment in rubles. That by itself doesn’t solve anything. Russia would make the Western countries buy rubles to then buy oil and gas with, but the question remains what they would use to buy rubles with. If they can buy them with dollars or euros, then Russia, either its central bank or commercial entities, will end up accumulating dollars and euros (basically deposits in Western banks that can be confiscated at any time), precisely the situation it must avoid.
Alternatively, it could strive to reduce or eliminate its trade surplus by increasing its imports from these countries. But that would mean increasing its dependence on mainly advanced manufactured goods from these countries, when it needs to be doing the precise opposite. Another alternative is of course to make them buy the rubles with physical gold, which is really the exact same thing as making them pay for the oil with physical gold. (The only difference is that in the latter case, the oil company instead receives the gold from the foreign buyer, and then it buys the rubles from for example the central bank, to pay salaries, taxes etc. with.)
c1ue brought up that no one is going to want to pay in physical gold for oil. Who the hell cares what way Europe prefers to pay for the Russian energy they say they need, while insulting, defaming and attacking Russia at every opportunity? Why should Russia care that this is an inconvenience to them? They can freeze to death in the dark if it doesn’t suit them to pay in physical gold. What would be extremely foolish for Russia (but unfortunately characteristic of them, at least so far) to do is to continue to provide cheap energy to the Western countries which have declared that they are arming to destroy Russia without at the very least draining their gold reserves, or alternatively weakening their currencies by making them scramble on international markets for physical gold, thereby lowering the living standards and spending power of Western people, making them carry the cost of Western rearmament instead of Russia carrying that burden itself.

Posted by: Unnamed | Mar 7 2022 22:53 utc | 270

Another thing that really bothered me was Russia not making good on promises to deliver S-300 missile defense systems to Iran.
Posted by: Circe | Mar 7 2022 22:42 utc | 262
I believe they did after some years, once the JCPOA came into effect. Of course that agreement went into the waste bin once crusty the clown trump became the latest useful idiot for the great minds in Murika, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave.

Posted by: bubbles | Mar 7 2022 22:53 utc | 271

Posted by: ptb | Mar 7 2022 20:19 utc | 180
Whatever happens is on Zelensky and the US – not Russia. I expect Russia to use Syrian tactics in most cases of cities. Nonetheless there will be civilian casualties because the regime is not allowing civilians to leave. That’s on the Ukrainian authorities. You won’t hear the western media talking about “human shields”, just “Russia is bombing humanitarian corridors”, which is bullshit.
“Concern trolling” is not welcome.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 22:56 utc | 272

Arioch | Mar 7 2022 22:33 utc | 254
I had heard US was buying Russian gas and reselling it to the Euro twits before this Ukraine operation but that may change now. I guess it will be some weeks before the dust settles a bit and Russia has yet to impose counter sanction.
Yep born an Aussie will no doubt die still being an Aussie.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 22:56 utc | 273

Patroklos | Mar 7 2022 22:47 utc | 266 “What is China doing? Hedging its bets?”
Separating banks. Banks that deal will Russia will be separated from banks the deal with US and US dollars. Both China and Russia have done this before to get around US sanctions.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 23:03 utc | 274

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 22:56 utc | 274
Only one way to prove it: what’s the best thing to put on your toast in the morning?

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 7 2022 23:04 utc | 275

Kamala Harris met with Zelensky at that Munich Security Conference where Zelensky spoke. She undoubtedly knew what he would say, and probably inspired his words.

Posted by: Lysias | Mar 7 2022 23:05 utc | 276

Kamala Harris met with Zelensky at that Munich Security Conference where Zelensky spoke. She undoubtedly knew what he would say, and probably inspired his words.

Posted by: Lysias | Mar 7 2022 23:05 utc | 277

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 23:03 utc | 275
Very interesting. China has done this before? Forgive my ignorance on this.

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 7 2022 23:05 utc | 278

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 20:23 utc | 185
Let’s parse this bit by bit…
First, the obvious – they got “Walter Reed” wrong. Probably just a typo, so who cares?
“the activities of biolabs…have led to an uncontrolled increase in the incidence of particularly dangerous and economically significant infections.”
OK. So the labs leak. Or more likely, since no epidemiological studies are referenced, there are other explanations for the outbreaks. Who knows?
“So in the territory of Ukraine, an increase in the number of cases of rubella, diphtheria, tuberculosis is recorded. The incidence of measles has increased more than 100 times. WHO has declared Ukraine a country with a high risk of polio outbreak.”
Still not evidence of biowarfare.
“We believe that in 2007, a highly contagious strain of African swine fever was developed in a Georgian laboratory subordinate to the Pentagon. Its spread caused significant economic damage to a number of countries, including Ukraine and Poland. Excluded them from the list of pork exporters.”
References required. Documents required. Epidemiological study required that pinpoints the source.
“According to our data, there is an emergency curtailment of biological programs. The analyzed documents confirm that the Ministry of Health of Ukraine has set the task of completely destroying bioagents in laboratories since 24.02. At the same time, an analysis of instructions to laboratory officials indicates that the procedure for liquidation and quantity are aimed at their irrevocable destruction. Apparently, everything necessary to continue the implementation of the military biological program has already been removed from the territory of Ukraine.”
Well, there goes the evidence. Or, OTOH, they are destroying dangerous pathogens in the wake of a war.
“In Lviv alone, 232 containers with the causative agent of leptospirosis, 30 with tularemia and 10 with brucellosis and 5 with plague were destroyed. There are more than 320 containers in total.”
No baseline reference. Is 320 containers a lot or not? How much is that in actual material?
“The nomenclature and excessive number of pathogens indicate the work carried out within the framework of military biological programs.”
This statement counts as circumstantial evidence at best, pure speculation at worst.
“Curators from the Pentagon understand that if this collection gets to Russian experts, then with a high degree of probability it will be confirmed that Ukraine and the United States have violated the Convention on the prohibition of biological and toxin weapons, namely, work to enhance the pathogenic properties of microorganisms using synthetic biology methods. Only this can explain the haste with which the liquidation measures were carried out.”
Once again, circumstantial evidence at best, pure speculation at worst.
“This is only a small part of the documents. We continue to work and will keep you informed.”
Yes, please do that.
“Reading through that, Russian MoD knows what the Pentagon is doing but needs to get hold of some of the samples as solid proof the Pentagon is modifying pathogens to use as weapons.”
Agreed. We need REAL evidence.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 23:07 utc | 279

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 7 2022 20:34 utc | 192
Agreed. Martyanov dismisses him. Of course, Martyanov dismisses most people. 🙂

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 23:09 utc | 280

Posted by: Unnamed | Mar 7 2022 22:53 utc | 271
“Who the hell cares what way Europe prefers to pay for the Russian energy they say they need, while insulting, defaming and attacking Russia at every opportunity?”
I suspect it is not quite like that, and if it is, The Russians at the highest level, will be very polite (on camera) when Liz Truss and Boris Johnson turn up at The Kremlin, before they all start p1ssing themselves laughing, after the Americans have left.
Apparently the Americans don’t drink.
Tony

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 7 2022 23:09 utc | 281

Posted by: JB | Mar 7 2022 19:16 utc | 141
“I am also not in the business of partitioning countries and generously offering their parts left and right, like so many in this blog find it apparently proper to do.”
Just blew your motivation, dude.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 22:34 utc | 255″
Yeah dude, if there ain’t no rules on propriety in the smoke-filled backrooms then there can’t be none up in the peanut gallery either or we’ll fall behind.
Props to b for the hands-off approach!

Posted by: reante | Mar 7 2022 23:09 utc | 282

Patroklos @266–
I suggest you begin with today’s Global Times editorial. Then there’s this article where you’ll find the following:
Instead of falling into the trap set by some Western media and observers, China has been following its own pace and agenda of mediating in issues like the Ukraine crisis, experts said. “The Western media set up its own standards to evaluate China’s action on the Ukraine situation. For example, whether China follows the West-led sanctions on Russia, whether China follows the West-led condemnation of Russia or whether China persuades Russia for a ceasefire,” Cui said, noting that China, however, has not been influenced by those unilateral standards.
“‘Instead, China has been doing everything it can to promote dialogue, which is seen as the only correct way to end conflicts and divergences,’ he said.” [My Emphasis]
Further along in the article, we read:
“China’s diplomatic philosophy is formulated by China with a high sense of responsibility and China’s willingness to contribute to a community with a shared future for mankind. This is in line with the general trend of the times, Li said, noting that it also reflects that the destiny of every country is connected with each other closely, and the Cold War mentality-driven small clique leads nowhere.
“On relations with major powers like Russia, Wang told the press conference that China-Russia relationship is valued for its independence, and the friendship between the two peoples is ‘rock-solid.’ China-Russia ties are based on non-alliance, non-confrontation and non-targeting of any third party, and are free from interference or discord sown by third parties.
“When it comes to China-US relations, the Chinese foreign minister said the US is going to great lengths to engage in intense, zero-sum competition with China, provoke China on issues concerning China’s core interests and draw small circles to contain China, a move that not only hurts bilateral relations but damages international peace and stability.
Major-country competition should not be the order of the day and a zero-sum game is not the right choice. In a globalized and interdependent world, how China and the US find the right way forward and manage to get along is both a new question for humanity and a formulation that must be worked out by China and the US, Wang said.” [My Emphasis]
And if that’s not enough, here’s a third article that showcases who the real foe of humanity is–The Outlaw US Empire, not Russia. I could supply more, the point being that China isn’t criticizing Russia’s actions as Russia’s reasons were conveyed to Xi by Putin, and as China has noted is all about Russia’s security and NATO’s threats to it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 7 2022 23:10 utc | 283

Why would the U.S. position those biolabs in Ukraine and Georgia, adjoining Russia? Kharkov/Kharkiv is in fact right on the border.

Posted by: Lysias | Mar 7 2022 23:10 utc | 284

Russell Kirk #218
Thank you a very detailed and circuitous statement as to why it is no skin off the USA nose to give the absolute guarantee as requested.
If the Russian and Iranian request is irrelevant and the USA sees no link between Iranian trade with Russia and the JCPOA then just give the guarantee OK?
The USA won’t give the guarantee as this is a perfect example of the USA double dealing, reneging, cheating on deals. They cannot resist the dishonesty whenever it is conceivably possible.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 7 2022 23:10 utc | 285

We need REAL evidence.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 23:07 utc | 280
We need ‘REAL’ evidence.
FTFY!

Posted by: reante | Mar 7 2022 23:12 utc | 286

Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 22:51 utc | 270
Russia as yet does not seem to have solid physical evidence though they have a lot more papers than they have shown to the public. I’m interested to see where this heads as Russia is making a bit of noise about it and US military bio research was included in the Russia China joint statement.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 23:12 utc | 287

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 7 2022 23:10 utc | 284
Many thanks, very helpful, and to PeterAU1 (vegemite forever!)

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 7 2022 23:12 utc | 288

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 7 2022 22:47 utc | 266
Only things we’ve heard were:
1.The biggest couple of banks suspended Russian transactions so not to fall foul of the US long arm jurisdiction.
2.Also China abstained at the UNGA vote citing insufficient data or context for China to cast its vote (or something like that)
Fact is the Ukraine and Taiwan problems, though similar in some respects on the surface, are quite different.
LNDR and Crimea voted to break away. Had China voted a clear NO then a unfavourable vote by Taiwan’s separatist govt in power to break away should also be respected (even tho Taiwan was and is a part of China, the mentally inept people will just skip that little detail).
I have also written previously that China is riding on a free option. Its standing to gain much from the west’s current suicidal tendencies. It could also play the mediator if need be. It does not need to declare, not yet. It is in its interest to “act” neutral at this point.
However rest assured if things get hot and Russia faces an existential threat China knows full well that its next in the crosshairs. It will act accordingly.

Posted by: A.L. | Mar 7 2022 23:14 utc | 289

The word ‘homespun’ has a patriotic context in American history. The evil Tyrants of London tried to use ‘economic warfare’ to force the colonies to remain in tyranny. The Tyrants of London thought that if they denied, or possibly just raised the price, of the fine linens and fabrics flowing from England to the colonies, then the poor rural agricultural colonists would have no choice but to get down on their knees and submit.
Instead, ‘homespun’ fabrics became the popular fashion in the colonies.
The funny part is that the Control Freaks always think they can control people by denying them the products they hock and push. But, all it really ever does is to teach people that they can either make this stuff themselves, or that they really don’t need this stuff in the first place.
Wait till Russia now gets on board and discovers Linux now that Microsoft has decided that the evil Russians must be denied the wonders of Microsoft’s output. There is a big mental hurdle, a wall if you will, to get people to switch to Linux, but then after they’ve cleared that wall, they discover that they not only can use it but that they like it. Then, in the phrase of Neil Young, “once you’re gone, you can’t go back, when you are out of the blue, and into the black.”

Posted by: Thom Payne | Mar 7 2022 23:14 utc | 290

As B, the host here, asked contributors not to post overly lengthy posts, I respect that and will add a 2nd tranche to my previous. To hopefully encourage interest.
“Where’s Waldo?”
“The Ukrainians on that island who would rather die than surrender surrendered. Zelensky is Where’s Waldo?, popping up in undated video with unidentifiable backgrounds, dressed in military cosplay reminiscent of George W. Bush in his flight suit. For Americans, war only happens on TV anyway.”
“The simplistic narrative is the same simplistic narrative: plucky freedom fighters against some evil dictator. It’s the same story of the resistance fighters in Syria against Assad, the Kurds against ISIS, the Taliban whom Ronald Reagan called the equivalent of our Founding Fathers for their fight against the Red Army.
Putin now is the most evil man on earth, unhinged, mentally unwell. Saddam once was, Assad used to be, and Gaddafi was to the point where America cheered as he was sodomized with a bayonet on TV. Familiar voices sound. The Brookings Institution demands “Regime change: Russia.” The Council on Foreign Relations roars “the conversation has shifted to include the possibility of desired regime change in Russia.” One headline wishfully notes “knocking Putin’s teams off the sports stage leaves him exposed to his own people.” No one seems to recall our last attempt at regime change in Russia is what put Putin into power in the first place.
Putin’s goals have gone in a matter of days from sorting out Cold War borders to “the restoration of a triumphalist, imperialistic Russian identity, or another bloodstained nationalistic surge to cover for the criminality of his regime, or whether he just has come egotistically unmoored.”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/weve-had-enough-of-zero-sum-democracy/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_van_Buren
Listen children to a story
That was written long ago
About a kingdom on a mountain
And the valley folk below
On the mountain was a treasure
Buried deep beneath a stone
And the valley people swore
They’d have it for their very own

Posted by: bubbles | Mar 7 2022 23:14 utc | 291

Scott Morrison will single out seven key types of goods Australia needs to turn its attention to “in the national interest” amid increasing global supply chain disruptions.
Semiconductors; Agriculture chemicals; Water treatment chemicals; Telecommunications equipment; Plastics; Pharmaceuticals; and Personal protective equipment.
The Prime Minister is expected to say that while Australia cannot produce everything domestically, there is an “enormous potential” to grow the manufacturing sector.

Forget that there is a Dragon guarding the back of the Bear, Kangaroos are suddenly going to become experts in all of the above! That and nuclear submarines!
Lest we forget the cornerstone of Australian war propaganda is veneration of our healthiest and most earnest young men running at machine gun emplacements under British command on a foreign beach.

Posted by: yevgeny | Mar 7 2022 23:15 utc | 292

Posted by: willie | Mar 7 2022 21:42 utc | 228 At one moment Russian missile will hit the base to destroy all equipment,which detonates the atomic bomb
Nukes don’t work that way. The bomb has to have a perfect spherical inward detonation of the triggering charges. A hit by a missile would just destroy the bomb.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 7 2022 23:16 utc | 293

Patroklos | Mar 7 2022 23:05 utc | 279
If my memory is correct, Both Russia and China have used those type of workaround to trade with Iran, Venezuela and any other country under US sanctions. Both countries as far as I know do observe UNSC sanctions.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 23:16 utc | 294

Circe | Mar 7 2022 22:42 utc | 262
Russia Completes S-300 Delivery to Iran in $800 million deal | Arms Control – Dec. 2016 |

Posted by: Oui | Mar 7 2022 23:18 utc | 295

@155 Greg Galloway
Ahh yes, that is a configuration option I had not considered. I am racking my brain to think of a good worked example …

Posted by: echelon | Mar 7 2022 23:18 utc | 296

Peter, are you in mourning?

Posted by: John Cleary | Mar 7 2022 23:20 utc | 297

Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2022 22:13 utc | 248
From The Economist –
If the supply of Russian gas to Europe were cut off, could LNG plug the gap?
Russia seems to be holding all the cards at the moment – at least in the short term.
The US has 15 LNG liquefaction facilities planned, Australia 2 & Qatar 1.

Posted by: ted001 | Mar 7 2022 23:21 utc | 298

https://instalker.org/JominiW
This guys seems to make good tactical maps of military operations in Ukraine
At least his maps got used even in specifically Russian resource at https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1076252

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 7 2022 23:24 utc | 299

OThe huge volume of comments and excellent coverage of this war by b is appreciated by this MOA regular reader. It hasn’t been this lively since the US presidential election theft of 2020. Which brings me to something that no one here seems keen to address: the U.S. election cycles for ’22 and ’24.
Hey Americans, how is your Trump derangement syndrome these days? See any similarities between the evocation of “bad man orange” and “bad man Russian”? Note how the “lesser of the two evils” that you perhaps voted for issued in a state department brimful of Clinton era Leo Strauss disciples with a flaming hatred for the Slavic Russian race? Did you not consider that war was inevitable because the Wolfowitz doctrine and the Cebrowski doctrine were back on the table, and the Atlanticists with their NATO would be unleashed to remake Europe? For ……fascism ?
It’s funny, but I laugh out loud these crazy days because this insanity is so novel. I still love watching Tucker Carlson because he talks of serious things which are hilarious. Fellow Americans, this is called irony.
Because I did not comply with the medical experiment, I cannot go to the library, catch public transport ,visit a doctors surgery, go to cafes, restaurants, cinemas, sports events,the zoo, my two clubs or leave the boundary of this state (Western Australia) let alone go overseas. The W.A. health minister, a woman, made a threat to the unvaxed that we would be the “undead”. How do you like that? And then these politicians will pontificate about human rights abuse in China (but never Kashmir). My dear husband just had the novavax because he needs to get his hair cut, and he needs to access our boat which has taken us over 40,000 bluewater miles -12 years of sailing the world’s oceans without a life raft! (We did it on a minuscule budget. Better to spend money on a new sail ).
So much for the western bleating about “our values”. HaHaHa. Gonna launch WW3 for LGBTQ+ and “racial equity”?
About 6 years ago I stopped watching anything mainstream.(Tucker I watch on YouTube). Syrian wars lies did it for me. Also no social media- hell, I don’t even have a mobile phone! They’re not mandatory cause it’s assumed everyone has one.
But we people still have the Internet, the best thing ever about modern times. We are going to win this struggle which is a battle over what the west has become. This is between virtuality and actuality, between courage and compliance. Russia is the exemplar of this struggle.
Here is a great essay by the wonderful Karen Kwiatkowski .
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/03/karen-kwiatkowski/something-we-can-all-agree-on

Posted by: Australian lady | Mar 7 2022 23:25 utc | 300