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March 26, 2022

Some Likely Longterm Effects Of The War In Ukraine

Arnaud Bertrand @RnaudBertrand - 4:44 UTC · Mar 26, 2022

What are the biggest game-changers of the Ukraine war so far?

I see three:
1) The freezing of Russia's central bank assets
2) China and India's rapprochement
3) The cementation of the EU's vassalage to the U.S.
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I agree with these but would add that it is also likely to lead to 4) the long term demise of NATO and 5) a shrinking role for the U.S. in the Middle East will also shrink as a consequence of the war.

1) The freezing of Russia's (and Iran's, Venezuela's, Afghanistan's) assets will have severe consequences for the U.S. dollar. The U.S. essentially defaulted by holding back Russian assets that it had the fiduciary duty to give back. China and everyone else will move its reserves to countries or into commodities that are not under U.S. control. See the Michael Hudson's interviews here and here:

[T]hat means that other countries all of a sudden see what they thought was their flight to security, what they thought was their most secure savings, their holdings in U.S. banks, US treasury bill, all of a sudden, is holding them hostage and is a high risk. Even the Financial Times of London has been writing about this, saying, how can the United States that was getting a free ride off the dollar standard for the last 50 years, ever since 1971, when foreign countries held dollars instead of gold and basically holding dollars means you buy U.S. Treasury bonds to finance the US budget deficit and the balance of payments deficit. How can the United States kill the goose that’s giving it the free ride? Well, the answer is that other countries can only move into gold and there’s an alternative to the dollar because that’s something that all the countries of the world have agreed upon is an asset, not a liability. If you hold any foreign currency, that currency is a liability of a foreign country, and if you hold gold, it’s a pure asset.

2) China's and India's rapprochement has been coming for some time. The border squabble over a few thousand square meters of mountain rocks in recent years never made much sense. The Ukraine crisis has shown that India and China have common interests. Some solution for the border will be worked out and full cooperation will return. This means the end for the Quad, the U.S. made anti-China coalition of Australia, India, Japan and the U.S. itself.

3) The cementation of the EU's vassalage to the U.S. will only be temporarily. European companies have their own interests and they will press their politicians into more realist positions:

It is a long haul for Europe to dispense with Russian gas. Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic said yesterday: “There are gas shortages, and that is why we need to talk to Russians. Europe will move towards reducing its dependence on the Russian gas, but can this happen in the coming years? This is very difficult.”

“Europe consumes 500 billion cubic meters of gas, while America and Qatar can offer 15 billion, up to the last molecule… That is why German and Austrian politicians told me: “We cannot just destroy ourselves. If we impose sanctions on Russia in the oil and gas domain, we will destroy ourselves. It’s like shooting yourself in the foot before rushing into a fight.” This is how certain rational people in the West see it today.”

4) As for NATO: As soon as Russia has finished its operation in the Ukraine it will become clear that it has absolutely no interest in attacking any NATO country. The coming period of high inflation will lead to shrinking defense budgets. A NATO that makes promises, like it did to Ukraine, but has neither will nor means to fulfill them has lost its way and serves no serious purpose. It will wither away.

5) In the Middle East the U.S. has proven to be an unreliably ally. The Saudis and others need someone else to protect their security:

The Russian intervention in the Ukraine took Gulf governments by surprise and caused a great deal of anxiety. Here were governments that have tried in recent years to balance their primary loyalty to the U.S. with a new attempt to improve relations with China and Russia.

While Putin intervened in Syria against the wishes of Gulf regimes, which were trying to unseat the Syrian ruler, Bashar al-Asad, the Gulf acknowledged the resolve and determination of the Russian government. Brutality in Russian or American intervention in Syria is of no concern to Gulf despots. They value first and foremost the willingness of the Putin administration to stand by his ally in Damascus in comparison to what they see as a lack of resolve on the part of the U.S. towards its clients in the Gulf.

The Gulf regimes feel Putin is more loyal than the U.S., and the mischievous behavior of UAE and Saudi Arabia in the last few weeks is an expression of their frustration with U.S. role in the region. (Riyadh, for instance, is in talks with China to trade some of its oil in yuan, which would deal a blow to the U.S. dollar that is used in 80 percent of world oil sales. Until now, the Saudis have exclusively used the dollar. And Emirati and Saudi leaders have refused to take Biden’s phone calls.)

China and Russia will likely cooperate to build some new security architecture in the Middle East.

As all the above plays out it may well turn out that the U.S. policy of overextending and unbalancing Russia did not work but has created a backlash that has severely damaged its own strategic position.

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The Solomon Islands is entering a security deal with China choosing sides against the West which includes Australia and Japan in the Pacific. China could deploy forces in the Solomon Islands. China is clearly responding to Biden's threats and to the clear agenda to try to destroy Russia. This is a strategic shift in security concerns in the Pacific and it is obviously all because of this proxy war against Russia. What is not in the headlines is that the US, UK, and Australia all signed a landmark defense treaty last year,to strengthen Western allies' presence in the Indo-Pacific. China saw this as the first step in creating NATO in the Pacific which would eventually target China.

Posted by: tobyt | Mar 26 2022 20:49 utc | 101

IMO it's very important to note that Declaration wasn't the first but is the fourth or fifth in a series that originated in the initial 2001 treaty on China-Russian Friendship. For example, here's the 2016 Joint Declaration on Promotion and Principles of International Law. Another is the 2017 Joint Declaration on a Multipolar World and the Establishment of a New International Order.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 26 2022 17:55 utc | 16

Thanks for this reminder. Both these leaders speeches are an incredible trove of information about the current situation.
While the Empire has descended more and more into chaos Russia and China have been planning all the while apparently playing the game. This says so much about the depth and caliber of their leadership and governments. This is an aspect of these two countries that honestly I find to be a ray of sanity and benign intention in an increasingly degenerating egocentric world.

Posted by: K | Mar 26 2022 20:50 utc | 102

I'm wondering why the missile strikes in Lviv today weren't aimed at striking out all the fuel tanks? It appears they took out 2 and 3 or more are still standing.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 26 2022 20:52 utc | 103

Polish general has an eye on Kaliningrad.

"Warsaw should seek to “claim” the Kaliningrad region from Russia, General Waldemar Skrzypczak has said. The region has been “under Russian occupation since 1945,” the ex-commander of the Polish Land Forces claimed on the TV show ‘Super Express’ on Friday.

“It might be worth asking for it, as it used to be with the Regained Territories,” Skrzypczak said, referring to the eastern German territories incorporated into Poland after the defeat of Nazi Germany. “It might be worth asking for this Kaliningrad region, which, in my opinion, is part of the territory of Poland.”"

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 26 2022 20:53 utc | 104

Anybody has been thinking of annexing ukraine into poland which will make it a de facto nato member? I mean what is left of it then... Should russia bomb it, it is war.

Posted by: Thomas | Mar 26 2022 20:53 utc | 105

Circe, let em sweat; it's better slower. You don't want to shoot your wad before negotiations. Russia will make facts on the ground regarding Dombass, and sufficient armed destruction of their "defenses" before engaging in talks at this point, leaving nothing to chance. The capitulation of the West, the political resolution of the Nazis ultimately isn't a kinetic solution, but political. If they have nothing, they have nothing to negotiate for.

Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 26 2022 20:55 utc | 106

The short term affects are not good predictors of long term affects. A lot of things are said.

The game changer is: Does US become "trapped" by its rhetoric?

Posted by: jared | Mar 26 2022 20:56 utc | 107

"Governments who complain will find right wing nationalists destabilizing their politics.."

@Posted by: ptb | Mar 26 2022 20:40 utc | 94

This is an interesting point, since this is highly likely the destiny of the "selected Ukrainian refugees" we are taking into our countries.

As an illustrating point, when in our countries there are increasing numbers of taxpayers being evicted from their homes now owned by Us hedge funds, beinf left in the streets, full Us style, all of a sudden 100.000 public housing appeared from nowhere to locate "Ukrainian refugees", which we guess will not have to pay the same astronomic bills on energy we are forced to pay on behalf of the US fracking industry, the same they did not have the "Syrian refugees".

There is talk on the social networks on that these "selected Ukrainian refugees" were asking European firends in advance to be placed into a "good neighborhood", meaning one without many immigrants from other races and procedences...
You guess which kind of people is this one....

We are taking the nazi operatives with all expenses paid for by the EU taxpayers as stay behind forces for future use against the same taxpayers when they decide they have taken enough...

Some gullible TV watchers are in for a rude awakeing once they tire of picking up blankets and diapers for the Ukrainians they are showed on TV, who, obviously do not need anything of the like, since they are probably richer people than these poor fools, those who have beneffited from the current regime in Ukraine, othrwise they would not be escaping to the West...

Posted by: Givi | Mar 26 2022 20:59 utc | 108

It's Mother's Day tomorrow at least in the UK. It's just a bit of fun. If you are lucky enough to still have a Mum, a little gift, or even a phone call, will put a smile on her face.

"Mother's Day is a celebration honouring the mother of the family or individual, as well as motherhood, maternal bonds, and the influence of mothers in society. It is celebrated on different days in many parts of the world, most commonly in the months of March or May."

Apologies for being off-topic, but it will be on topic tomorrow, if you remember.

Tony

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 26 2022 21:00 utc | 109

Biden calling for the removal of Putin, image if the shoe were on the other foot and Putin was calling for the removal of Biden or UK PM Johnson.

"US President Joe Biden has called for Russian President Vladimir Putin to be deposed. He made a direct appeal to the Russian people during a speech in Warsaw, where he had met for talks with high-ranking Ukrainian officials on Saturday.

“For God’s sake, this man cannot remain in power,” Biden declared at the end of an emotionally overwrought speech in the Polish capital’s Royal Castle."

Biden goes on to compare Russia with the Nazis, and the Ukrainian Nazis as the brave defenders.

"He then attempted to liken Ukrainians fighting “Russian aggression” to the Soviet Union defending itself from Nazi Germany in World War II."

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 26 2022 21:03 utc | 110

Question: Would capital, assets and depreciation and all the other endless "refinements" disappear in a fully socialist society and economy? Did Marx describe a system that would be workable in the current era?

I recall reading many years ago on Chris Martenson's blog that the price of land in the USA (and stuff in general) did not increase for 300 years until the US got a central bank and started charging interest. If this is true then things obviously do not "have to appreciate" in value for life to go on.


Posted by: K | Mar 26 2022 21:04 utc | 111

@60 Vintage Red

Yes, Chinese leaders would be irresponsible not to expect it. With RF, Iran, Pak, and central Asia, a minimum of raw materials is in principle secure, as well as a nice developing-economy market with some unique tech goodies via Russia. Plus ASEAN isn't going anywhere. Africa and South America are looking term bonus, EU may be lost. But the Eurasian group may already be biting off too much to chew.

Xi Jinping also gets to play the part of a world leader who is still responsible; ie pro stability, pro trade.

Would get the role by default - EU removed due to utter impotence, Russia due to failing to avoid the provocation to fight, and US due to destroying everything we touch and blindly escalating as our default move. (and the team at the top sure aren't helping ease anyone's concerns)

China must be realizing it's probably impossible to stop US smashing up a good part of global commerce, causing mass famine and refugees, and destabilizing at least some of the strategic countries that will be attempted. China perhaps scrambling to figure out how to offer various of those strategic partners a way to ride out the storm of the next 5-10 years.

Posted by: ptb | Mar 26 2022 21:09 utc | 112

One of Russia's aims is denazification, but they can't do that without toppling the Ukrainian government, because the far-right infect all the major ministries. Even if a peace deal is agreed, that will only mark the start of a long guerrilla war against a country which is being armed by Nato.
Russia needs to reach a position where they have total control of Ukraine, if they don't want the war to drag on for years (which is what the Americans want to happen).

Posted by: D J G | Mar 26 2022 21:09 utc | 113

Another aspect I dont see well addressed is that the west is engaging Russia on many fronts:
- Syria
- Armenia
- Khazakstan
- Ukraine
- Libia
I am particularly concerned about Syria in the near term.
But the west has been trying to catch Russia unprepared - succeeded in Ukraine and Armenia (in the short term). Part of why they are so offended, they stole it fair and square.
Those javelins may come back to bite.

Posted by: jared | Mar 26 2022 21:10 utc | 114

Nervous German @75 & WJ @79--

How to rollback NATO to its 1997 status without war is our shared concern. NATO currently gives the appearance of 100% solidarity when that's not at all the case as proven by those refusing to the additional sanctions. As I wrote yesterday, the Balkan members are the weakest link. Hungary opposes both NATO and EU policy, and the Serbs are going their own way. Turkey is also against NATO's plans. Macron faces determined Pro-Russian candidates in the elections that occur in two weeks. And no European nation agrees to a 100% cutoff of Russian hydrocarbons, a position defying the Imperial Diktat. So, we have some rather large cracks in the pottery already showing and the rollback phase has yet to begin. Much depends on what Russia does in Ukraine, whether it leaves a Banderistan rump or not--IMO, it won't as that goes against Russia's stated security position. Just as important is the policy Russia employs for securing the inside of Ukraine so the conditions that fueled Maidan won't recur. Then there's the explosive growth of the Eurasian Bloc that European nations will want to join so they have a chance of remaining/regaining prosperous/prosperity. The New Humanism that's emerging will also exert a very strong pull.

Timing here is also key. I don't see Russia finishing its Ukraine operation until June/July at the earliest. Do read the Saker's after one month sitrep about the political administrative aspects that need to be put in place to gain an appreciation of their complexity and potential difficulty. And even then there'll still be lots of work to do to return prosperity to Ukraine that will last several years, IMO. As I've often written, rebuilding Ukraine will be the monetary cost for Russian security. Read Putin's words I cited @85 to understand why.

The toughest rollback nuts to crack will be the Baltics and Poland for they are the most Russophobic. For those four, joining the EU and NATO has been an economic disaster that's created several severe social problems. As with all of Europe, their future lies to the East, not the West or North. Unfortunately, they are an extremely stubborn bunch. The best deal for the Baltics, IMO, is for them to try and become Union States with Russia and Belarus; geography is the dominant determiner here. Poland would greatly benefit from not having NATO-level military expenditures and return to the OSCE security arrangement that Russia's likely to offer as its indivisible security will be respected; same with the Baltics provided none are in NATO. Of course, the Outlaw US Empire won't like that, but in two years it's going to be mired in its own domestic ills.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 26 2022 21:16 utc | 115

Continuing saga on the Academy Awards tomorrow. Good thing we're getting a heads up...🙄 Mila Kounis will present an award and at the same time honor Ukraine. (😴)

Sean Penn is in a huff and losing it. He wants Zelensky to appear at the Oscars or he will boycott. Please, please Mr. Penn, do us all a favor! (Although I'll be doing same.)

They're all insane loosing their marbles over Ukraine.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 26 2022 21:18 utc | 116

The US sanctions the Russian President, Foreign Minister, the Russian parliament as institution and all Russia's members of parliament. The US is sanctioning even wife and children of the press spokesman of the Russian government. The equivalent would be Russia sanctioning Jen Psaki's husband and children.
Meanwhile, the US president calls the Russian president "a killer". United States senators call openly for the assassination of V. Putin.
All this is propaganda and stirring up trouble. If the West had a free press, some would be in favor, and some against. Instead you can whatever tv news you watch, whatever newspaper web you read: it's all the same.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 26 2022 21:27 utc | 117

New world order coming, and I'm enjoying every minute. Even if, in the end, it affects me negatively, and it probably will, I enjoy watching the empire and it's enablers squirm a bit.

"What goes around, comes around" My country certainly has earned some negativity....

Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 26 2022 21:30 utc | 118

@ 113
Ukrainian President Zelensky in talks with Academy to make Oscars appearance .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 26 2022 21:32 utc | 119

K @100--

Thanks for your reply and for writing why I continue to pound the table with those documents that have outlined the path throughout!

What I find worrisome is the abject refusal by those running the West to accommodate what IMO is a New Humanism fueling the paradigm change because it promises to demote them, and they'll be prevented from pursuing Zero-sum activities--the King refuses to abdicate because that would turn him into just another citizen. It's the Great Fear Francis Bacon wrote about in his call to wage Genocide on commonfolk, a mindset that continues to live-on within the .0000001%.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 26 2022 21:34 utc | 120

everybody wants to be a circus act at the usa circus shows.... reminds me of the walrus bouncing a ball on its nose.... zelensky could add a few pounds and try for that act... i would find it entertaining.. after all - it is all about the entertainment value... it helps mute the pain of realizing real people are dying needlessly... the entertainment industry, nobel peace prize and etc. etc. are all one big giant soother in the mouth of the west... keep on sucking because you suck! do suck on zelensky, cause that is all you know how to do!

Posted by: james | Mar 26 2022 21:36 utc | 121

None of us are privy to the Russian timeline for rolling back NATO. And to date the Sino-Russian friendship has shown an astounding amount of planning, preparation and patience. A Cold War east-west division sooner rather than all of Ukraine later suits Russia (and China) better in the medium term. NATO can’t do anything in that situation other than terrorism. And the EU needs time to contemplate the bind it put itself in.

Even an unpleasant peace will be more beneficial to Russia than complete victory. Someone over at andrei’s place said there needs to be an international approach to Mariupol. It is terrible carnage. Cuban doctors, Chinese construction crews, Russian humanitarian aid, Iranians, Indians, Africans, Syrians. That’s more important than how far the tanks roll. And it will be crushing to the West not only to be left out of saving the day, but as the full story of the city is told in a form the west can’t control.

If this is World War III, the main battlefield is economic and for all our sakes it needs to stay that way. If ends sooner rather than later, China evades the worst sanctions and the Sino-Russian friendship can exert some control over the descent of NATO, which can’t live without what SR has. And the longer this goes on the more likely that serious instability happens all over and all at the same time. That’s NATO’s playground. Exactly not what SR are selling.

Posted by: Lex | Mar 26 2022 21:42 utc | 122

Posted by: K | Mar 26 2022 21:04 utc | 108

Whilst I liked the practice and experience of the co-operative society, and Building Societies, started off in Rochdale near Oldham in 1844 and replicated in different but similar forms, in numerous places across the world...

"a fully socialist society and economy" has never existed throughout the entire recorded history of the human race.

The history of money, in all its tradable forms, goes back for many thousands of years.

Even in the Animal Kingdom, there will be a top dog, fish, or lion, who will want to feast first, but they do form tribes and groups, and defend their territory, very locally, so are acting socially.

You are always going to get some arsehole, who wants the lot.

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 26 2022 21:43 utc | 123

France summons Russian envoy over embassy Twitter cartoon:

https://twitter.com/asadabukhalil/status/1507429559020400651?cxt=HHwWlsCt1c_Mu-spAAAA

Posted by: Menz | Mar 26 2022 21:44 utc | 124

On the likely short term effects of the "war in Ukraine", it seems that increasing number of people are considering they have taken enough of this exceptionalism based of fiat everything...

Attention ot the bath of reality a US professor gets on Indian TV...

Attention also to the face of the guest in Kyiv...a poem, as if realizing how much real support they have really in the real international community...

https://twitter.com/YoshiYamamo_to/status/1507084785109422087?cxt=HHwWjsC-7ZHonuopAAAA

Posted by: Givi | Mar 26 2022 21:46 utc | 125

The transcript of Biden's speech today has not appeared at the White House website yet. There is a very crude transcript wording visible here at "SHOW TRANSCRIPT."

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 26 2022 21:47 utc | 126


@ Norwegian | Mar 26 2022 20:39 utc | 93

"That is what I did. Why can you not accept that?"

Because you did not. You suggested he meant something quite different :
"If you mean "man made" climate change, I agree. It is zero." | 55

Posted by: Otter | Mar 26 2022 21:55 utc | 127

@Posted by: Menz | Mar 26 2022 21:44 utc | 121

They can sumon whomever, but alike cartoons are flooding the social networks out of citizenry authorship, as samples posted above, thus the embassy just echoes the people´s take in Europe..r

Real news, instead of MSM fake news organized and ordered from the US.

Posted by: Givi | Mar 26 2022 21:55 utc | 128

Mila Kunis and spouse Ashton Kutcher are obviously CIA cutouts or bona-fide agents.

Just a bit of the CIA's google and wiki will raise eyebrows. (revelation of the method).

(Ashton's blonde gf and costar in "Just Married", Brittany Murphy, died mysteriously at age 32.)

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Mar 26 2022 21:56 utc | 129

K @108--

Marx didn't envision our world; he never saw finance capitalism becoming the Great Predator it is thanks to Neoliberalism.

What I see emerging over the next 100 years are initially a plethora of political-economies devoted to people-centered development of a mixed nature, with all natural monopolies, strategic industries and finance in the hands of the people/governments with private capitalists allowed to produce and market those items that aren't needs, and perhaps a few that are. That will continue until resource depletion reaches a state where economies will need to transition to a steady-state condition while continuing to promote human development in the gaining of knowledge and wisdom.

Energy production and distribution is the key to what happens in the future. If fusion is harnessed, then future energy production and distribution will be solved as it will be possible for all to be Haves. If not, then Geopower and space-based solar will become the default solutions and equitable distribution will become the key to peace.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 26 2022 21:57 utc | 130

They don't like the truth!
France summons Russian envoy over embassy Twitter cartoon:

https://twitter.com/asadabukhalil/status/1507429559020400651?cxt=HHwWlsCt1c_Mu-spAAAA
Posted by: Menz | Mar 26 2022 21:44 utc | 121

Posted by: Jpc | Mar 26 2022 21:58 utc | 131

@123
Here's a couple of (crude) paragraphs with Biden's main message -- we all act together despite out differences . . . . .[and good luck at the polls.]

We all need to move as quickly as possible. Clean renewable energy and we work together to help get that done so that the days of any nation being subject to the whims of the tyrant for its energy needs are over. They must end, they must end and second we have to fight the corruption coming to the club to give what the Russian people a fair chance.

And finally, most urgently we maintain absolute unity. We must among the world's democracies. It's not enough to speak with rhetorical flourish of a noble words of democracy, of freedom, equality and liberty, All of us, including here in Poland, I must do the hard work of democracy each and every day my country as well. That's why that's wrong. I came to europe again this week with a clear and determined message, Diego For the G seven for the European Union, all freedom loving nations, we must commit now to be in this fight for the long haul.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 26 2022 21:58 utc | 132

@43 Kate McKinnon always strikes me as funny and very intelligent. I guess she 'woke' up.

Posted by: dh | Mar 26 2022 21:59 utc | 133

@ 123, 129
After all that, here's the official White House transcript of Biden's speech.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 26 2022 22:03 utc | 134

Ukraine's future needs a look at demographics. They were losing population before the war and that trend just hit the accelerator. Many Ukies are flying to South America their next step, emigration to US.

Before the war, 25% of Ukraine were pensioners ! Add their caregivers, corruption,a low birth rate, poverty and a wrecked nation (plus loss of young men in war) and they may recover. NATO/US lose interest once the damage is done (as they showed with Libya).

Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 26 2022 22:05 utc | 135

@ Tom_12

What I'm getting at is does the woke social media universe pose an existential threat to Israel and the US getting away with invading other countries. This is what Bari Weiss was trying to warn by her prominent resignation to supposedly protest wokeness. (Conspicuous was that she was given a very sympathetic hearing by the MSM who didn't unperson her like everyone else who actually came out against it, she has inserted herself into that intellectual milieu like Ben Shapiro to shill for neocon bullshit)

And has the precedent set in terms of rhetoric (Biden calling Putin a war criminal and butcher, every European leader having big clips talking about how wrong violating countries sovereignty is, Biden asking who Putin thinks he is etc) intensify the risk of this happening with the next US/Israel. Can they get away with it next time anywhere near as easily given what they've said on Ukraine.

In the tragedy of the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the seeming victory for the neocons, have they actually set such a precedent for 'current thing' that they may never be able to control the narrative when Israel does some terrible thing. Weiss seems to fear this but I wondered if it actually seems to need both the MSM and social media acting in a feedback loop to create this hysteria that leads to unending response.

Posted by: Altai | Mar 26 2022 22:06 utc | 136

Don Bacon @129--

Biden talks about democracy while being the dictator! Of course, he's blind to the irony. And which nations are those supplying the world's needs when it comes to renewable energy components?

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 26 2022 22:08 utc | 137


WHY NOT MAKE PUTIN or THE FAKE WAR IN UKRAINE, the ""CAUSE of THE PLANNED, WORLDWIDE, ECONOMIC COLLAPSE?

(while we are busy with the elaborate specifics of "the trees", we are missing the contours of "the forest").


The fabrication of covid was merely the first act in a four scene play that will entail at least a decade of artificially created chaos to cover for long planned transitions:


LINEAR ECONOMY --- transitions to --- CIRCULAR ECONOMY.

PRODUCTION & CONSUMPTION ECONOMY --- transitions to --- RENTIER, LICENSING ECONOMY

CURRENCIES/CASH --- transition to -- CENTRAL BANK's DIGITAL BLOCKCHAIN/PROGRAMMABLE/RESCINDABLE TOKENS tokens.

FINANCIAL CREDIT SYSTEM --- transitions to --- SOCIAL CREDIT SYSTEM

PRIVATE LAND/PROPERTY OWERSHIP --- transitions to --- NO PRIVATE PROPERTY/LAND OWNERSHIP

MEDICAL FREEDOM --- transitions to --- COERCED LETHAL INJECTIONS

INDIVIDUAL/INNATE HUMAN RIGHTS --- transition to --- COLLECTIVE & EXTERNALLY CONTROLLED PRIVILEDGES

Legal fiction, straw-man identity --- transitions to --- DIGITAL/BIO-MONITORED SMART IDENTITY

FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT --- transitions to --- LOCKDOWNS & RESTRICTED TRAVEL

FEMALE & MALE PERSONs--- transitions to --- NON=BINARY PERSONS, whether human or robot

EXPANSION OF POPULATIONS --- transitions to ---- GOVERNMENTS INDUCED DEPOPULATION.

PHYSICAL & SOCIAL FACE-TO-FACE INTERACTIONS --- transition to --- DIGITAL/ONLINE INTERACTIONS

ENERGY CONSUMPTION --- transitions to--- ENERGY RATIONING

and so forth,

credit to RESEARCHER, posted on Mar 25, 2022 6:39 PM

Posted by: susetta | Mar 26 2022 22:13 utc | 138

If some adults can talk some sense into the US leadership and get them to walk back from further inflaming the situation, this MAY lead to a better America. I'm tired of American blood and treasure being spent all over the world in disputes that have nothing to do with us, except to flatter the egos of the neocons.

I swear, Western leadership is acting like petulant two-year olds. Throw tantrums and ignore the LT consequences of their decisions.

Posted by: Zookie's Turkey | Mar 26 2022 22:15 utc | 139

@Otter | Mar 26 2022 21:55 utc | 124

Because you did not. You suggested he meant something quite different :
So you are trying to read thoughts now? I agreed with what he wrote. Go and read it.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 26 2022 22:16 utc | 140

is there a loose backup plan for if this site gets killed?

one that doesn’t involve giving away details here that would make it a target before it exists?

Posted by: Rae | Mar 26 2022 22:17 utc | 141

Hudson, b: How can the United States kill the goose that’s giving it the free ride?

Well, actually it was not giving free ride any more. See so called "REPO crisis" and what it unleashed about US foreign debt.

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 26 2022 22:20 utc | 142

I'm assuming RT links are still being blocked. "Number of EU Country's farms at risk of closure revealed" is the article's title, and here's the meat:

"Nearly 100,000 Italian farms are on the verge of closure due to skyrocketing production costs brought about by the conflict in Ukraine, major farming association Coldiretti said in a report this week.

"According to the group, growing production costs far exceed what is being paid to farmers and breeders for their products, from milk to fruit, meat and vegetables. More than one farm in 10 (11%) is therefore on the verge of closure, while about one-third of the nation’s total (30%) are working in conditions of negative profits, Coldiretti explains, citing data from Italian agricultural research organization Crea."

If it's that bad in Italy, it'll be bad elsewhere too. The pottery just developed another crack.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 26 2022 22:20 utc | 143

@ Menz | Mar 26 2022 21:44 utc | 121

france in a competition with the usa - uk over what country is the most hypocritical... they ought to turn this into an olympic race! odds favour usa, but uk and france will get bronze and silver for sure!

@ Givi | Mar 26 2022 21:46 utc | 122

thanks givi.. that clip was good!

Posted by: james | Mar 26 2022 22:21 utc | 144

Et Tu @ 51

In a way I agree with you about need for editing. Have to follow that immediately with the observation that Bernhard is doing a major service by making this site available in a widely understood language not his own. And that he does a very good job with English for a non-native speaker.

No grammar check or spell check program can do the job. It requires a human. A copy editor.

Over my lifetime editorial standards have disappeared. You will no longer find good editing at the New Yorker or the New York Review of Books or the London Review of Books. Just saw a published piece in The Smithsonian where the copy editors process notes were wholly incorporated in the text. And some of the notes were wrong.

The last author to submit clean copy is generally considered to have been Virginia Woolf. Her father was an editor and author. Her mother was a publisher and author. Her husband was an author and editor. Standard English was the dialect of her precise social set. She trained for years doing book reviews for the Times of London which would reject not only the review but drop the reviewer if an error occurred. Most amateur authors believe that their words are pearls of wisdom cast in perfect form. Then they meet a real copy editor. It has been 80 years since anyone submitted clean copy.

Copy editors are hard to find. There is no certification. There is no training. Editors can either edit or they can’t. Most non-editors cannot tell good from bad. Most good editors are getting old.

Edited text is a joy to read. It is mostly historical now.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 26 2022 22:26 utc | 145

Here is the start of my list of "how to get Rubles to buy natural gas from Russia":
1. Sell stuff to Russia and accept payment in Rubles.
2. Get yourself some currency that can be traded for Rubles (eg: Yuan/Rupees).

Comments / other suggestions welcomed.

Posted by: Awe | Mar 26 2022 22:30 utc | 146

Another RT item. Zelensky fails to get Orban's backing:

"'Hungary is on Hungary’s side,' its prime minister, Viktor Orban, said in a statement on Saturday, in response to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s calls for Budapest to quit sitting on the fence in the conflict between Kiev and Moscow.

"Orban said that, while his country could not 'be indifferent' to the 'Russo-Ukrainian war going on in our neighborhood,' Hungary would look after its own interests first, and maintain a 'Hungarian point of view.' He went on to stress that Budapest 'want[ed] to stay out of this war,' but that this did not preclude it from helping 'those in need.'"

Zelensky's beginning to remind me of whatshisname from Venezuela.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 26 2022 22:30 utc | 147

@ptb | Mar 26 2022 21:09 utc | 109

"Yes, Chinese leaders would be irresponsible not to expect it..."

Absolutely agreed. I am sure they are planning for these contingencies at highest speed.

But I also draw attention to what it will mean for us in the US-led Western Empire. Long latent and not-so-latent Russophobia is now being stoked to psychotic levels. I and many others here have commented how it's becoming racialized—a new manifestation of colonialism and racism. Given the recent wave of anti-Asian violence here in the US in which Sinophobic whites attacked even non-Chinese Asians in their ignorance, the danger of far greater racist violence looms should the Chinese send a carrier group or two to the bottom, causing thousands of US casualties.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 26 2022 22:33 utc | 148

And another from RT. "Poland should ‘claim’ Russian region, general says: An ex-commander of the Polish Land Forces suggested Warsaw should seek to seize Kaliningrad from Moscow."

Polish forces would fail miserably and quickly end up like the Ukie forces.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 26 2022 22:35 utc | 149

Posted by: Awe | Mar 26 2022 22:30 utc | 143

Awe, Yeh summarised perfectly.

Not only is it Mother's Day in the Morning, but also the clocks go forward an hour. This might not matter to many people, but we have got one less hour in bed, which might be important, if you have got a job, and a flight to catch (UK Time)

I prefer GMT, cos some of my old computers got confused, when the clocks went back. They had already done all that, and refused to do it again, and gave up and crashed.

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 26 2022 22:50 utc | 150

Statistically insignificant is the opinion of Norwegian in the realm of climate science which explains its disproportionate appearance at MoA.

Video Shows Man Destroying Grocery Checkout with Axe for Not Serving His Maskless Wife https://www.newsweek.com/video-shows-man-destroying-grocery-checkout-axe-not-serving-his-maskless-wife-1615975

Video: Angry man breaks Imperial Beach CA shop window | The Sacramento Bee https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article246379285.html

Maskless man attacks store employee in Burnaby, B.C. - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWAhsR04YFE

2 charged with assault of Walmart clerk who asked customers to wear masks: RCMP | CBC News https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/walmart-face-masks-dawson-creek-bc-rcmp-assault-charges-1.5861990

Posted by: Laurence | Mar 26 2022 22:58 utc | 151

Thanks B for your articles and the many valuable commentators eg Karlofi.
I feel that Russia will now consider itself at war with the US & Nato, thus this will result in the following 'technical-military' actions;
1- tit-for-tat open sending of arms anti-US/Nato hotspots, signing of big weapons contracts to Gulf, Eastern European, South American and African countries and groups.
2- Syria will be given the 'keys' to the S300s, with added mixture of captures 'western arms' from The Ukraine, with urging to take back their land including Al Tanf and oil fields.
3- Russia will bid its time, before turning to west of the Ukraine to completely de-nazify the fascist, all centres of gathering for the foreign volunteer terrorists ruthlessly, similarly the Mariupol azov ukropas in Mariupol were given a chance to surrender by the Chechens but refused, then the order to seek and destroy was given. The select army officers who surrendered to the Russians will be the ones to govern and control both the ukrpoas and Polish aggression there, after retraining/re-orientation process. All the republics will be allied to Moscow.
4- Polish drive to enter The Ukraine is stupid as it will suffer the same fate as The Ukraine, refer to VVPutin's warning on interference! The other Nato states are now not willing to take part in a war with the now clearly defined 'Resistance Alliance'
5- Russia will steadily encourage the rest of the world that the US/Nato is just a paper-tiger, watch Korea, Iran,Syria, Serbia, Hungary, Venezuela, Libya, Somalia, Ethiopia and China.

The 'US exceptionalism',the dollar dominance, worldwide tentacles, colour revolutions, coup detats, massive aggression without UN mandates,'democracy' imposition,sanctions,international arrests of other nationalities, unhindered assassinations are finished.The bully has been found out in the playground.


Posted by: Recon404 | Mar 26 2022 23:00 utc | 152

The Middle east will be the winner of the west confrontation with Russia
The UAE is the best candidate to replace the Bank of England and the USA Federal Bank as a vault for gold and other worldwide assets

The middle east go the message: don't count on the USA in time of problems unless you allow them to use you for their own interest. Your interests are not to be considered
I believe the Middle east will go through a transformation where conflicts based on religion will fade away. They will become immune to the USA's plot to throw them against each other. Iran and Saudi Arabia will find ways to settle their difference. Syria will regain its place in the Arab League and the parasites financed by the West will be discredited and will fade way. Israel will operate its charm to seduce other arab countries by making serious compromises now that they have insured the 'friendship' of rich Gulf countries

Gulf countries got the message: the USA is not only an unreliable ally but it can be a thief. Which country or individual would feel safe to have his money in a US bank or a UK Bank?
There will be a switch to countries that are not racist, do not promote actively regime changes or do not want to force other countries to follow the West version of 'democracy' and 'human rights'. There is no universal version of either.
Among the middle east countries that seem to be the best positioned to take up the role of Trusted asset holder, the UAE is well positionned.
The UAE has no enemies ( it is in good term with Iran, the USA, China, Russia and the EU ) and like the Chinese the UAE is only concerned by business and progress for all.
Until Turkey solved its persistent issue of the Kurds, correct its failing economy, stops its Islamist agenda and withdraw from Syria, it cannot be seen as a stable country to whom you can entrust your money. The removal of Erdogan could signal a positive shift.

The EU will go through a difficult time having to decide on what future they want after the debacle of the Ukraine war. Forever vassals of the USA that is falling slowly, or independent by been united and strong ? The trouble is that without Russia, the EU can never be strong enough to deal with the giants: China and the USA They lost their chance for this decade.. maybe the next one..

Posted by: virgile | Mar 26 2022 23:02 utc | 153

Norwegian #31

Both NATO and EU is likely to be dissolved.


Thank you Norwegian, sounds good to me. Perhaps Russia might send each of them a statue to commemorate their liberty.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 26 2022 23:25 utc | 154

@145 Vintage Red

A well practiced routine, sadly. Though the intensity, I haven't seen since 9/11, or the OJ trial.

If someone up high in the US thinks WWIII would solve their problems, the public won't be stopping them.

Posted by: ptb | Mar 26 2022 23:33 utc | 155

I don't do emails, but I do do other peoples blogs, I think it was M K Bhadrakumar, who actually replied to me, almost live on someone's blog - might have been the Sakers.

This was like getting a reply from John Lennon (deceased) or Pepe Escabar (very much alive)

His latest is brilliant.

"M K Bhadrakumar : Zelensky rubbishes Biden’s war on Russia"

https://johnmenadue.com/m-k-bhadrakumar-zelensky-rubbishes-bidens-war-on-russia/

Extract

"ABC News reportedly telecast the interview on Monday night Eastern Time. Since then, the duo in the Biden team who piloted the Ukraine strategy, those apocalyptic “sanctions from hell” and the demonization of Vladimir Putin through the recent months – Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland – are nowhere to be seen.

That duo of Eastern European descent in the front seat – Blinken driving and Nuland by his side navigating him – ought to offer an explanation for this charade playing out, which is virtually demolishing American prestige as a superpower."

Pure Class.

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 26 2022 23:35 utc | 156

Lex | Mar 26 2022 21:42 utc | 119 "None of us are privy to the Russian timeline for rolling back NATO."

Going by what Putin has said around the time of the security ultimatum, I think US deployment of hypersonic missiles is the deadline. Surface based boost glide are now in the production phase, air launched will use the same warhead and they are trying to adapt an existing rocket booster so that won't be far behind.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 26 2022 23:36 utc | 157

I just came across this excellent TASS article summarizing the 4 February 2022 Russia/China Joint Declaration that will be helpful for barflies having trouble with my description of just how far reaching the Declaration is and the principles it's based upon. These are the key paragraphs, although there're more:

"This declaration formalizes the de facto established union of Russia and China. We have been talking a great deal about strategic interaction. This is a real embodiment of this interaction," Maslov said.

He stressed that in their joint statement Russia and China described the principles they would rely on in developing global cooperation.

"These principles are absolutely not new ones," he remarked. "In fact, the statement heralds a return to the original UN principles that were laid down back in the 1940s and 1950s."

The expert believes that the document is a clear sign the countries "share common values, a common understanding of democracy and the idea of the national nature of this democracy, pool together many international projects, the EAEU and the One Belt-One Road and also discuss interaction in the Arctic."

Maslov stressed that the security issues mentioned in the statement were the most important of all. "A whole list of new types of security was determined there, including cybersecurity, on which the countries will cooperate," he said.

Given the rejection by the West of everything Russian and Chinese, it actually seems probable that the Declaration went unread by high officials, meaning Blinken, Austin and Sullivan, since they already had formalized their escalation plans.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 26 2022 23:41 utc | 158

one reason I have disliked.... oh heck.... despised, so many of the Democrats and so much of their partisan hypocrisy.... for decades

about Biden telling the 82nd airborne that they're going to the Ukraine

"... and you're going to see when you're there (Ukraine)...."


https://twitter.com/ClintEhrlich/status/1507549755999612928

Imagine President Trump had inexplicably told U.S. troops they were deploying to fight Russia.
Really imagine it!
All we'd be hearing is that he's mentally unfit and must be removed under the 25th Amendment.

Joe Biden did the same thing today.
But the media has his back...

8:47 PM · Mar 25, 2022

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 26 2022 23:44 utc | 159

Regarding enumerated "game changers" initiating this discussion, it might be that such enumeration is itself somewhat western in flavor, per se. That is: the most profound effects are those which are most resistant to reductionist analysis (or enumeration). Those of us listening to what Russians say pick up a whole new tone. Westerners are vainglorious enough to be done with Dostoyevsky -- but that's just half of the global cultural landslide. Dostoyevsky is also thoroughly, decisively done with us. Totally finished with anything reminding them of "Zone A", as Andrei at thesaker refers to us, in his one-month review:

There is no limit to how evil, depraved and demonic the rulers of the Empire of Lies are.

I can't possibly imagine what it's like to be on their end of "Zone A" aggression. Dilyana and many others show how the US war machine has deployed mosquitos and ticks on the Russia-Georgia border, apparently working to develop "ethnic pathogens" targeting Slavs. I'm not a Nazi atrocity buff, but this one is way up there, it seems to me. Entomologists working with the US military -- do you call such people Nazis or Hitlers?

Here in Oz, we're chock full o' imaginative, industrious, creative people far exceeding the worst outrages of the Third Reich, imho. I stretch vainly for terms adequate (technofascist hypernazi?) to the biowarfare horrors the USA has imposed on planet Earth. If anyone wonders whether our leaders are crazy enough to blow up the whole shebang, just consider this insane USDD bioweapons laboratory network, with legions of mad scientists.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 26 2022 23:53 utc | 160

Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 26 2022 18:35 utc | 30

Bravo, ScottinDallas! I thought I was the only one with that theory! O, I am not alone!!

Posted by: juliania | Mar 26 2022 23:55 utc | 161

@Circe #101
"I'm wondering why the missile strikes in Lviv today weren't aimed at striking out all the fuel tanks? It appears they took out 2 and 3 or more are still standing."

Maybe the Russians knew exactly which ones had fuel in them.

Posted by: Billb | Mar 26 2022 23:59 utc | 162

michaelj72 @156--

Actually when you pause and think about that, you see that the media was issued different narrative orders with Biden very similar to Ministry of Truth changes 1984 details. IMO, it's easier to see both the media and duopoly as elite tools to further divide and rule. If people didn't follow the media narrative and only supported politicians who genuinely advanced the public interest, not just rhetorically as the duopoly does, the elite would lose its control tools and become vulnerable. Of course, those are two very tall orders, but IMO the public can be won over if activists stick to domestic realities that can't be obfuscated unlike overseas events that are easily lied about--pocketbook politics.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 27 2022 0:00 utc | 163

As I didn't have a clue. I wanted to know a little more. My wife and I have been to Kerala. Loved it.

He seems a nice man to me

About Me (M. K. BHADRAKUMAR)

https://www.indianpunchline.com/about-me/

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 27 2022 0:00 utc | 164

@Billb (159)

Russia will leave the decision who gets what's left --the military or civilians-- to Zelensky.

Posted by: bjd | Mar 27 2022 0:02 utc | 165

@PeterAU1,
That’s fair. Whether the US will actually be able to make a useable version or whether it’s just another F35 is probably the operable question. But I guess if I had to choose, I’d rather wait a bit until everyone has hypersonic cruise missiles and then we can have a hot WWIII that might manage to stay conventional.

Posted by: Lex | Mar 27 2022 0:12 utc | 166

IMO Russia will win this war by sticking to Ukrainian supply lines, especially gasoline. They are hitting depots all over the country with missiles, now in Western Ukraine as well. If you cant store gasoline, you cant refill your tanks and artillery, cant transport food or ammo to Donbass. If Ukrainian forces run out of everything, they will give up one after another. This will come way quicker than we think.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 27 2022 0:18 utc | 167

Anyone else seen/posted any links to this Substack site?

https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/p/the-west-gave-us-weapons-because?s=r

That entry was written in February, about 2.5 weeks before the invasion. Probably the most informative on-the-ground description of Ukraine's 'Nazi problem' that I've stumbled across.

Also interesting is reading the early entries (the blog has only been up since January) about 'events in Ukraine' including Blinken's visit there supposedly to get Zelensky to finally implement their side of the Minsk accords. The most recent entry discusses why even Russians in Ukraine and pro-Russian Ukrainians are not in approval of 'Putin's' invasion - the answer is duh, war sucks and it destroys lives; nobody WANTS to be attacked. Regardless, for a better understanding of the situation from a 'local' and not brought to you by intrepid corporate media war reporters (who are really hanging out in Budapest or Prague).

But the neo-Nazi article (one I linked) is fascinating and goes a long way toward proving the West's complicity, hypocrisy and that the Ukrainian right was knowingly, willingly being used as pawns by 'the West' - but that it's fun beating up Roma to clear ground for commercial construction interests, killing journalists who voice "pro-Russia" viewpoints, and poking Russia and Russians in as many ways as they can.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2022 0:30 utc | 168

Here is a link to the UK Defense Minister prank call (231MB download from Google Drive). Getting it from Google Drive so you can study it and replay it on your own machine is probably better than watching it multiple times on Rumble. YMMV. Drive may not let you play it directy, but you can download it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16dJ_WHcDUHE3nj3yYmR0AQLi-AUQy1zW/view?usp=sharing

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 26 2022 15:30 utc | 402

I downloaded the UK MoD letter from Twitter earlier, uploaded it to my cloud drive. Here's the link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fohDXljviKKXfNyp6RQ3cW-CwyUHIvrz/view?usp=sharing

b "As soon as Russia has finished its operation in the Ukraine it will become clear that it has absolutely no interest in attacking any NATO country."

Correct. All these idiots who think Russia will hit the Aegis Ashore sites in Poland and Romania are wrong. Once Russia counters those missiles with missiles in Ukraine and Belarus, it will move on to other "military-technical measures."

Biden’s reality check in Europe
https://www.indianpunchline.com/bidens-reality-check-in-europe/

However, Poland has certain other plans, namely, to deploy contingents to the western regions of Ukraine to support the ‘fraternal Ukrainian people” with the unspoken agenda of reclaiming control over the historically disputed territories in the those regions. What Faustian deal has been struck in Warsaw on March 25 between Biden and his Polish counterpart Duda remains unclear. Clearly, vultures are circling Ukraine’s skies. (See my blog Biden wings his way to the borderlands of Ukraine, March 24, 2022)

Indeed, if Poland makes a bid for Ukrainian territory (with Biden’s tacit support), would Belarus be far behind to take control of the regions of Polesie and Volyn in Ukraine? Possibly not. Suffice to say, in the period since the CIA-backed coup in Kiev in 2014 when the US moved into the driving seat, Ukraine has lost its sovereignty and is now perilously close to vanishing altogether
from Europe’s map!

I'm not sure about Belarus seizing other oblasts. I am fairly sure Russia will not allow Poland to seize any Ukraine territory. I can see Biden giving Poland the green light to try.

Posted by: circumspect | Mar 26 2022 17:30 utc | 9
"Whatever pieces of Ukraine are left after the Russia leaves will be rearmed with NATO gear."

You see how this works? The presumption here is that Russia is stupid and will allow this outcome by partitioning Ukraine. Everyone assumes partitioning because "western Ukraine hates Russia and can't be controlled."

Well, that means one of two things: 1) Russia is stupid and incompetent; or 2) the theory that Russia will partition Ukraine is flat out wrong. It is as much a presumption as my theory that they won't.

The difference is I assume Russia is not stupid - and everyone else does.

Posted by: Lex | Mar 26 2022 17:48 utc | 14

Good points, all.

Posted by: Mongo | Mar 26 2022 18:16 utc | 21

No.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 26 2022 18:42 utc | 39

The Postel interview is very good. One quibble: He keeps saying Russia can't detect a US nuclear launch in time. Well, Russia now has a very good early warning system. It won't spot a submarine nuke launch in the Pacific, but it will spot any launch from the US and probably in the Atlantic.

Also Soviet military doctrine in the past was not to retaliate until a nuclear detonation actually occurred on Soviet soil. These days, it's not clear what the doctrine is. Putin hinted that it would be dependent on the early warning system predicting the location of impact - which implies the same thing, without a certainty of impact on Russian soil, the retaliation will wait. Russia appears to not want to accidentally start WWIII because of a single launch warning. Of course, on a salvo of launches Russia would presumably react differently.

Posted by: WJ | Mar 26 2022 20:22 utc | 79
"Putin has stated that Russia demands NATO drawback to 1997 borders. How will the latter be achieved without use of force?"

People keep getting this wrong. Putin said this is what Russia wants. He didn't say this is what Russia will get. What he then said was that if Russia does not get what it wants, it will take "military-technical measures" to reproduce the same threat to the US and NATO.

None of this implies an actual military attack on any NATO country.

It's amazing how many people don't listen to what is said, but prefer to turn it in their minds into something they think was said.

It's like this stupid BS about "who would want to live in a world without Russia?" and interpreting that to mean that Russia wants nuclear war.

Russia is not stupid. Russia is not looking to start a war in Europe with NATO or the US. Russia is not looking to start WWIII.

Posted by: D J G | Mar 26 2022 21:09 utc | 110

Excellent. Someone who gets it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 26 2022 21:16 utc | 112
"Much depends on what Russia does in Ukraine, whether it leaves a Banderistan rump or not--IMO, it won't as that goes against Russia's stated security position. Just as important is the policy Russia employs for securing the inside of Ukraine so the conditions that fueled Maidan won't recur."

Thank you, Karlof1! Another person who gets it!

"Timing here is also key. I don't see Russia finishing its Ukraine operation until June/July at the earliest. Do read the Saker's after one month sitrep about the political administrative aspects that need to be put in place to gain an appreciation of their complexity and potential difficulty. And even then there'll still be lots of work to do to return prosperity to Ukraine that will last several years, IMO. As I've often written, rebuilding Ukraine will be the monetary cost for Russian security. Read Putin's words I cited @85 to understand why."

Correct. Agree completely. I'm sure you note that this is entirely different in concept and scope from a US-style "occupation." Much of this can be done without enormous numbers of Russian troops in country. Russia only needs to control certain strategic areas for a limited time to achieve its goals. The rest of Ukraine can be left alone until the new government can take over control of those areas.

Posted by: Recon404 | Mar 26 2022 23:00 utc | 149

Tend to agree.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 27 2022 0:32 utc | 169

Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 26 2022 22:33 utc | 145

"...wave of anti-Asian violence here in the US in which Sinophobia whites attacked even non-Chinese Asians in their ignorance...."

I strongly disagree... your ignorance what really happened... Most if not all Asian bashers were mostly the BLACK and less degree the Brown... here one Anglo-Saxon tried to beat the shit an old Chinese's granny in SFO... but granny beat the shit back at the Anglo-Saxon and require medical attention..

1. Xiao Zhen Xie, 75

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN2hIPRKAfc

2. 39-year-old Steven Jenkins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyTA9thWdBg

3. Xiao Zhen Xie, 75 Donate (ALL) away...

https://toofab.com/2021/03/18/elderly-asian-lady-sends-sf-man-who-randomly-attacked-her-to-hospital-with-stick-beat-down/

4. Shao Xiong "Dennis" . The saddest....PhD student from HK but a mainlander, "Two days before Zheng was killed, Li (Mother) received a bottle of fragrance from her son for her birthday. "I am wearing the fragrance you bought me today...."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAMTZgBgq74

https://www.shine.cn/news/world/2111198397/

Posted by: JC | Mar 27 2022 0:36 utc | 170


Rumour has it that Russia and China are going to make a 'religious announcement' for the markets, sometime around Monday 28-3, to the 1st of April.

This link to a ruble/gold/oil based currency system may explain why the Saudis, etc, have been so detached from the US of late, not taking phone calls, etc.

There is huge panic going on in the West, at the moment, this cannot be denied.

https://renaissancemen.org/2022/03/25/did-the-russians-just-back-the-ruble-to-gold-a-timeline-of-how-we-got-here-and-where-we-go-next/

Posted by: Ric G | Mar 27 2022 0:52 utc | 171

That duo of Eastern European descent in the front seat – Blinken driving and Nuland by his side navigating him – ought to offer an explanation for this charade playing out, which is virtually demolishing American prestige as a superpower."

Pure Class.
Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 26 2022 23:35 utc | 153

There is really not much to say, they don't work for the USA. Wasn't it Netanyahu who said:
"Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.”

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Mar 27 2022 0:54 utc | 172

The western world is literally getting moved to the side to make way for a new dominant paradigm. Godless Volvo driving man nannies need not apply.

Posted by: Jezabeel | Mar 27 2022 1:04 utc | 173

@James , thank you for all your posts .. there's so many trolls here that i use your posts as barometer which posters are real and which are concern trolls fakery..

i think the liberation of mariupol become a major gsme changes for the narrative peddlers , now they moved from "incompetent russian army lacking fuel and food" into "they going to massacre kiev and the move to baltics and poland" nonsense

Posted by: DVA | Mar 27 2022 1:09 utc | 174

Re: Ric G @168,

Biden's recent public breakdown screeching 'For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power', certainly sounds like a panicked man's reaction to a perfectly laid plan being blown apart in front of him. I don't think the US could have given the Russian and Chinese people a clearer sense of how successful Putin is at thwarting the US Empire's Neoliberal ambitions than that.

Posted by: Kadath | Mar 27 2022 1:10 utc | 175

“Not so sure about that one. Whatever pieces of Ukraine are left after the Russia leaves will be rearmed with NATO gear. That will leave Russia with the reality of having a fully armed NATO country on their border that is not actually in NATO.”

I never understood the value of promises not to join NATO. Ukraine was in NATO already de facto, armed and trained by NATO since 2014. Look how it helped it.

Yes, yes there is Article 5 you would say.

My reply will be that US will not fight with Russia for any NATO member. It is a fig leaf. Why should The world ( US) should face destruction for Estonia, Poland etc. Those countries should see the “value” of such protection

Posted by: Stroks | Mar 27 2022 1:14 utc | 176

"Putin must go! Putin must go!", Ser Brandon decrees. So let it be written, so let it be done. What an assclown. Reminds me of Reagan when he made a gaff. Some spokeshole would come out and say, "what he was really supposed to say...." We have the best government that big money can buy.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Mar 27 2022 1:16 utc | 177

We all see this only from publicly available data , like looking at thr top of iceberg and we cannot comprenend the real iceberg massive size / the unpublic information.

obvious from the warmonger in US they want to push this along with their EU compatriots no matter the cost to europe. The question is how far they will go , will they use poland as stalking horse to enter ukraine on peacekeeping pretext ? a destroyed polish military column in ukraine should not trigger article 5 but considering the crazies who orchestrate this mess i dont know..

and it seem western leaders and their propagandized citizens lacking awareness their digital infrastructure and their satellite constellation are not as secure , consider the dstruction of undersea cables and cloud servers and satellites..

without eyes and ears the western military prowess are downgraded , from their intelligence capabilities , detection of ballisric launches , communications , navigation.. and this is not even nuclear war yet..

Posted by: DVA | Mar 27 2022 1:16 utc | 178

Joke from Andrei Martyanov's blog...

New anecdote from Russia, Madeleine Albright gets to the Charon the ferryman at the river Styx and offers him a coin (one sixth of a Drachma) for crossing the river. Charon shakes his head in disagreement and replies to her: "I accept only Rubles".

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 27 2022 1:18 utc | 179

@ DVA | Mar 27 2022 1:09 utc | 171

thanks... there are so many informative and valuable posters here at moa - (karlof1 being up near the top of the list), it is impossible to name them all.. i try to help out and i appreciate you saying that.. it is hard to alter the western msm narrative... even when the facts on the ground change, russia is still presented the same way.. i think the most riveting example for me was obama turning a blind eye to isis - the enemy of my enemy is my friend bs) but russia started hitting them hard, and only after was the usa ready to change its tune, although it didn't change much, because they really wanted to see assad gone and tried throwing everything at syria they could... the west is so full of shit, it is hard to know where to begin to address it.. same deal here with ukraine... the west doesn't care about ukraine... they do care about cultivating a nazi contingency in ukraine though that are fanatic russiaphobes.. they are happy to turn a blind eye to that as well in their attempt to take down russia... it is really beyond sick and helps explain the depravity of the west at this junction historically...

Posted by: james | Mar 27 2022 1:25 utc | 180

The prediction that the Russian war means the beginning of the end of (take your pick of one or all) the EU, NATO, the dollar, globalization, and essentially every hated oppressive institution controlled by the US is worth exploring in detail.

I for one wish to see countries trade in their own currencies or with a neutral trading mechanism that in theory at least depoliticizes international trade and as one byproduct could create a more level playing field for the return of manufacturing to the US.

The trades that matter to USD dominance are in the petroleum sector so the announcement around March 15 that Saudi and China are considering oil trade outside the petrodollar regime is drawing most of the attention but hasn't been consummated as yet. Why not is anybody's guess. Is Saudi considering whether and to what degree it wishes to deepen ties with China and disentangle from the US.

Is China still more concerned about its vast export markets in the US and EU?

Or does the traditional logic still remain that as the yuan's exchange value is more tightly controlled by the Chinese government this makes it a less reliable store of asset stability to other nations including Saudi?

For one thing the riyal is pegged to the USD and for all intents so is the chinese offshore trading currency which creates a stability for each.

The strong dollar has negative impact on US manufacturers. It helps those wealthy investors in the US but also worldwide to the extent they keep their wealth in dollars.

Will those including the Saudis and the Chinese be willing to visit the unknown and unintended consequences on their assets at this point in time?

Posted by: Useless meat beater | Mar 27 2022 1:31 utc | 181

Circe @113, Yes Hollywood is on to the next cause de jour. Luckily I don't turn to them for emotional, political or spiritual guidance. I like your makeover, it becomes you. Furthermore, I'd trust Vlad to babysit my children. Can you say that about American politicians? Like Frank Zappa asked, " would you let your child get in a limousine with these guys?" (Slightly paraphrased)

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Mar 27 2022 1:32 utc | 182

I am reading here of a shift in phases of activity in Ukraine and I think what may look like a pause will be filled up with activity in other parts of the world.

In spite of all the Western political posturing going on Secretary of State Antony Blinken and his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov have not spoken since February 15....that is over a month in which diplomacy has been replaced with action and bluster.

Over on the Open thread I reported on recent Houthi attacks on Saudi oil facilities that represent parts of the challenges that empire is facing currently.

What is striking to me by the links provided above by barflies showing that the 80/20 percentage of humanity against empire has incited some around the world to speak out clearly about Empire of Lies that American professors and other puppets vomit forth.

Back to being called an idiot for asserting that Russia was quite clear about its rollback to 1997 security demand and will not stop until Poland is neutered......... While I agree that its possible that security could be assured for some period of time by putting Russian missiles in Ukraine to stand off those in Poland, I don't think that is Russia's goal.

I think that Russia's (and China's, et al) goal is to end the shit show I keep calling that is the "social order" of the West. As you know from reading me, the "social order" of the West has a critical component of a cult of humans that own the levers of global private finance. China has a public system of finance at the core and hence our civilization war.....unfortunately without the curtain exposing the God of Mammon cult to the world coming down so far.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 27 2022 1:38 utc | 183

Rumors of a plan by the Azov Battalion and the regional governor in Odessa to flood a section of Odessa to derail a Russian attack there... This is posted by Larchmonter over at the Martyanov blog. Larchmonter posts there and at The Saker. His posts are usually not bad. Of course, I emphasize this is a rumor by definition. I have absolutely no idea if the speculation at the end of radioactive dust being expelled is at all possible.

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Larchmonter445 Mateo Reed • 11 hours ago

My friend, Mateo,
Some news of what is planned for the defense of Odessa:
From an article today in Kont. I would suggest you get the hell out of there. You live in a tall building and they use tall buildings as primary shooting locations. Mariupol is destroyed because of this tactic. Food and water for 2 months?

I give you this about Odessa from the article:

The Ukrainian side has used similar tactics — the destruction of civilian housing — and intends to use them in other cities as well. One of these cities is Odessa.

"But also Moldavanka and Peresyp"
Odessa's Peresyp district, known to many residents of the former Soviet Union from the song "Scows" by Mark Bernes, is facing an unenviable fate.

In the evening of March 25, the former deputy of the Odessa City Council, orientalist and political scientist Igor Dimitriev in his Telegram channel spread the news of one of the other Telegram channels about the possible flooding of the Embankment.

"Recently, a closed meeting was held in Odessa, where the Nazi-former "Aidar" and regional governor Maxim Marchenko ordered sappers to mine the Khadjibey dam. In the event of an active offensive of the Russian Armed Forces from Nikolaev, the siege of the city will be undermined dam. This is explained by the desire to break the connection between the Suvorovsky district (Kotovsky village) and the rest of Odessa. In the event of such actions, the area of the Embankment will simply be flooded along with the housing of citizens," the report said.

At the same time, he dismissed all objections of representatives of emergency services.

"To the objection of the representative of the water utility and the Ministry of Emergency Situations that the water will very quickly reach a densely populated area, which is located in a lowland, and it will not be easy to pump it out, the governor retorted that the main thing is to detain the enemy. The explosion will be blamed on the actions of Russian saboteurs, " the report said.

When the head of the Primorsky Regional Administration asked the State Emergency Service employee how long it would take for water to reach residential buildings, the latter answered-6 minutes.

Marchenko, according to the report, ordered to prepare buses and cars for the evacuation of the population.

Dimitriev himself indicated that he believes in the truthfulness of this message.

"I don't see anything supernatural in this. Near Kiev, dams were blown up, flooding was, well, there is now <...> I think there is no reason to feel particularly sorry for Odessa, the Peresyp district. They would be very sorry — they would not place equipment in the city center. There is an important road running along the dam. The flood zone is mainly in sparsely populated areas, industrial zones. In case of flooding, two important routes are blocked. I am sure that they will do it if necessary, " he said.

Lev Vershinin, a historian and writer from Odessa who now lives in Spain, said in his blog that similar plans may be hatched in relation to Kiev.

"I received a letter from a concerned person whom I trust, forwarded this letter to those who might be interested in it, so that they would sort it out and find out, but I doubted it for a long time, but then I remembered that, first, the Fuhrer, realizing that the Arctic fox had come, ordered to open the floodgates, letting the Spree water into the crowded subway and secondly (this is verified and reliable), DneproGES is already well mined, and remembering these two absolute nuances, I decided to ask a question. In my opinion, the Nazi regime of Kiev: able to blow up the Vyshgorod dam, dumping the Kiev Sea on the city; he will never do this, because this is already a complete bust, " Vershinin said, posting a survey on his blog.

However, this will be a suicidal step not only for the Ukrainian authorities. The fact is that the bottom of the Kiev Sea is covered with radioactive sludge that appeared after the Chernobyl accident. If the sea disappears, it will dry up and be carried as dust by the wind over long distances.

Given the fact that toxic substances from the same dried-up Aral Sea were found even in the blood of Antarctic penguins, and Aral dust - on the glaciers of Greenland, in the forests of Norway and in the fields of Belarus, the draining of the Kiev Sea due to a dam explosion will be fraught not only with flooding of Kiev, but also with a surge of cancer in Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, and all European countries without exception, and possibly in some regions of the United States. It was to the EU and the US that Ukrainian politicians, including the current government, evacuated their families.

https://cont.ws/@bezuhoff/2245304

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 27 2022 1:47 utc | 184

I wish I could be as optimistic as B on a final India China Himalaya border settlement. China keeps on playing Big Brother as recently in the OIC meeting in Pakistan where it assisted a motion on Kashmir. I never see India supporting USK motions on Xinjiang or Taiwan. Maybe it takes more USK sanctions or their increased support for Taiwan?

Posted by: Antonym | Mar 27 2022 1:51 utc | 185

@ oldhippie142
Bernhard is doing a major service by making this site available in a widely understood language not his own. And that he does a very good job with English for a non-native speaker.
Yes, and his English lingo shines. .This time:
--biggest game-changers
--freezing of assets
--cementation of vassalage
--long term demise
--China's and India's rapprochement
--new security architecture
--created a backlash . . .etc
How about more than "very good?". . . Yes. . . .I don't speak that well, I'm afraid.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 27 2022 1:57 utc | 186

@ 182
India's Modi declined to meet with China FM Wang Yi on his recent SE Asia visit.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 27 2022 2:00 utc | 187

Any thoughts on the recently evolving media narrative concerning Russian military operations refocusing on the Donbass? It is being referenced by every western MSM mouthpiece as a trend toward a more 'limited' or diminished scope, implying a degradation of military ability.
Sure sounds like a PSYOP, in this case Russian. The western MSM are predictably jumping on the Russian announcements to further spin that Russia is weak and/or incompetent and therefore having serious issues.
This may serve the western media war narrative but from the perspective of Russian military objectives serves functionally different ends.
Foremost, such announcements blatantly telegraph military intentions, this unto itself should raise major flags.
The Donbass cauldron is yet to be sealed and there are still options for the UA in the east (albeit increasingly few). This signals to a Ukraine military that is already fragmented, isolated and depleted a contradictory message to either flee or hunker down. I believe this to be a practical and effective Russian psychological ploy. There is much to say with respect to this methodology (Gonzalo Lira has recently spoken on this aspect of Russian military operations).
In this case who cares what the western MSM has to say. Put yourself in the place of Ukrainian military planners whether in Kiev or the Donbass - the calculus is very different. As the Clash says, "should I stay or should I go!" I'm betting desertions will increase.

Posted by: Spinworthy | Mar 27 2022 2:04 utc | 188

@ oldhippie

I studied under one of the last real copy editors. He was pitiless. I still worship him and we still exchange texts.(He’s in his 90s.)

I just get used to — okay, when I’m lucky — intelligent thought marred by ignorance of its-vs.-it’s, rein-vs.- reign, tow-vs.-toe, and so forth. It’s life in a dying civilization.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 27 2022 2:04 utc | 189

@ Richard Steven Hack 181
. . .and of course the dam destruction would be blamed on an airstrike by the despicable butcher tyrant Vlad Putin, thus causing a backlash.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 27 2022 2:05 utc | 190

Isn't it sweet that NATO has never been so unified (per Biden)?
They'll all go down together led by Germany, France and Italy.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 27 2022 2:09 utc | 191

@ kadath and anyone else:

Biden might be senile; he might be a puppet; but by now we all ought to know that Russia’s liberation of the Ukraine is a devastating attack on the Biden family business.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 27 2022 2:09 utc | 192

@JC | Mar 27 2022 0:36 utc | 167

While the cases you linked were horrible attacks, it doesn't seem to me that they refute what I wrote. They are individual cases, not the historical or even present reality. In your first three links Steven Jenkins in his rage, as was pointed out in (2) specifically singled two elderly Asians (Xiao Zhen Xie and one other) who had nothing to do with whoever had assaulted him earlier. Why them, as was pointed out in your link? Your last two links pertain to a murder committed with robbery the motive, not in the same category at all.

Statistically 75% of the perpetrators of anti-Asian hate crimes (both before and since the pandemic) are white.

Historically and presently Anti-Asian Racism Never Stopped Being an Outgrowth of U.S. Imperialism.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 27 2022 2:12 utc | 193

Post from "Nightvision" over at The Saker listing many events in Ukraine, with links to videos, etc. Nightvision is one of the better informed posters over at The Saker.

Nightvision on March 26, 2022 · at 8:37 pm EST/EDT

Quick update for only the few big/important developments of today:

1. Large surrenders around Kiev. 70++ many officers including confirmed (based on patch on uniform) Lieutenant Colonel https://www.bitchute.com/video/GRckno5YljHY/ They ran out of food/fuel/water and surrendered.

2. By far the most important advances/gains for RF forces have been around Izyum. Though a small part of south Izyum (south of the river) is still controlled by Ukrops, Russia has wheeled around them and pushed south and captured Kamyanka and is assaulting Sukha.
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1507764883860897804
If you look on a map this is already a bit of a distance towards Slavyansk. There are videos of Russia utilizing TOS1 thermobaric with massive barrages in this region, the earth is pockmarked to hell and Ukies here have taken MASSIVE losses because they recognize the juncture here as extremely strategically important to their backlines and rearguard/supply. They are fighting with all their might for this space.
You can see videos here of the TOS1 barrage https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1507810935716696070
https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1507811009880334344
There are also satellite photos of hugely cratered and pockmarked fields. This area is a real meatgrinder and Ukies have taken their largest losses of the past week here.
Also Russia has numerous pontoon bridges in the area where forces are pouring into https://twitter.com/hengenahm/status/1507816865598476298
https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1507779212660420612
https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1507778623935295490

Also there continues to be reports of Russian attacks as far SW of Izyum as Barvinkove so there’s definitely some type of advanced force operating in that area. This area’s of utmost importance as it’s one of the main resupply corridors for the Ukie cauldron and Russia now controls the crux of the junction here, stifling the Ukie battle group while continuous air strikes to the rear supplies around Kramatorsk drain the very last of Ukie fuel/lubricants/reserve armor.

3. Russia has completely taken the town of Slavutych
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1507667161350909956
There’s videos of RF troops there but I won’t bother posting every little clip and clog up the report. The town is taken and RF forces have already negotiated with the mayor and staff for incorporation with civil/military administration of RF forces.

More importantly however, the city of Chernuhiv has been cut off. It was one of the cities left alone in the rearguard after RF forces initially stormed towards Kiev and simply bypassed many medium sized cities. It is a city of importance and now it is completely cut off on all its major axes. (Slavutych is on the outskirts of this city and thus has facilitated the aforementioned)

Incidentally, other reports indicate that more RF forces have begun to pour in from the north (Belarus) down towards the Kiev and Chernuhiv regions to continue fortifying positions here. https://www.bitchute.com/video/MFPqPpwWPzZm/

4. Mariupol is winding down to the last few quarters. Azov is being exterminated and we have daily reports/videos now of their top staff fleeing desperately dressed as civilians. Here’s a high ranking ‘commander’ that was captured today trying to sneak out: https://www.bitchute.com/video/gEzMlvwq3Sog/

past 2 days: https://www.bitchute.com/video/eexwMOENbXd2/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/klmbuAbhSf5g/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MSZzx2XrpIV1/

all caught/killed trying to flee.

Meanwhile Chechens are going wild taking the last few districts right on the outskirts of Azovstal factory: https://www.bitchute.com/video/yDNGONYxEtGJ/

Some maps of Mariupol: https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1507808613569552387
You can see the final Azovstal factory battleground is in the sites https://telewebgram.com/data/dynamic/1135021433/document/5330248581217523212.mp4
full exposé: https://zen.yandex.ru/video/watch/623f4bb54350ba1f01ada39f

Lastly as everyone has heard, Russia sent a big statement to the U.S. today. Literally as Biden was giving his speech in Rezsnow Poland on the border of Ukraine, Russia struck a powerful series of blows via Kh-101 missiles onto fuel depots in Lyviv on the border of Poland, a mere 80-90miles away from Biden’s “live speech”. In fact so close that you could likely see the giant columns of black smoke from where Biden was stationed. If that’s not a “statement” then I don’t know what is. Further confirmations now assert that Russia struck another depot/city in Dubno not far away as well.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 27 2022 2:14 utc | 194

@ malenkov | Mar 27 2022 2:09 utc | 189 about the Biden family business and Ukraine

Go to ZH and look for the following posting title

Daily Mail Drops Hunter Biden Emails Linking Him To Ukraine Biolab Funding

OR

Go to the Daily Mail and read the original

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 27 2022 2:14 utc | 195

@ JC re anti-Chinese violence in the USA:

“Divide and conquer” is so deeply ingrained in the American psyche that of course one minority attacks another in order not to be on the bottom.

Remember that there’s no social contract, real or implied, in the USA. It really is every man/clan for him/itself.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 27 2022 2:17 utc | 196

@ Norwegian | Mar 26 2022 19:22 utc | 53

I can't resist saying how much I enjoyed Norway voting down EU membership not once but twice, in 1972 and 1994. The EU has always provided a model for completely undemocratic, unelected, authoritarian rule not subject to any accountability, a perfect way for the ruling elite to remove any opposition to their desires. A similar vehicle designed for the US was the TPP, which was intended to create a higher layer of corporate sovereignty and administrative authority that could void all the laws and constitutions of the signatory states at will. Like Norwegian membership in the EU, the TPP will probably be brought back again and again to try to remove the barrier that national sovereignties pose to untrammeled corporate rule.

Anyway, since half of my ancestors immigrated to the US from Norway in the late 19th century (from Hedmark and Oppland), I can't help taking pleasure in the knowledge that the Norwegians are at least standing up against the EU atrocity, almost alone among all the European states (except for Iceland and now the UK after Brexit). It is obvious from voting and polling patterns that the usual suspect collaborationists are the ones who favor the accession of Norway while the overwhelming majority want nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Cabe | Mar 27 2022 2:17 utc | 197

@ Ric G 168
This link to a ruble/gold/oil based currency system may explain why the Saudis, etc, have been so detached from the US of late, not taking phone calls, etc.
Coming onto office, Biden called Saudi Arabia a "pariah" while going into hypocritical 'human rights' mode. Riyadh didn't care for it, and has refused to deal with the US except for bombing Yemen.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 27 2022 2:17 utc | 198

Liz Truss may have found an off-ramp of sorts. Perhaps the 'crippling sanctions' are not working quite the way she hoped. They could be reversed if Russia behaves.

"What we know is that Russia signed up to multiple agreements they simply don’t comply with. So there needs to be hard levers. Of course, sanctions are a hard lever," she said.

“Those sanctions should only come off with a full ceasefire and withdrawal, but also commitments that there will be no further aggression."


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/russia-ukraine-conflict-liz-truss-sanctions-b990687.html

Posted by: dh | Mar 27 2022 2:23 utc | 199

@ psychohistorian

Way ahead of you. Saw that yesterday, but thanks! Bears repeating.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 27 2022 2:24 utc | 200

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