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Some Likely Longterm Effects Of The War In Ukraine

Arnaud Bertrand @RnaudBertrand - 4:44 UTC · Mar 26, 2022

What are the biggest game-changers of the Ukraine war so far?

I see three:
1) The freezing of Russia's central bank assets
2) China and India's rapprochement
3) The cementation of the EU's vassalage to the U.S.
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I agree with these but would add that it is also likely to lead to 4) the long term demise of NATO and 5) a shrinking role for the U.S. in the Middle East will also shrink as a consequence of the war.

1) The freezing of Russia's (and Iran's, Venezuela's, Afghanistan's) assets will have severe consequences for the U.S. dollar. The U.S. essentially defaulted by holding back Russian assets that it had the fiduciary duty to give back. China and everyone else will move its reserves to countries or into commodities that are not under U.S. control. See the Michael Hudson's interviews here and here:

[T]hat means that other countries all of a sudden see what they thought was their flight to security, what they thought was their most secure savings, their holdings in U.S. banks, US treasury bill, all of a sudden, is holding them hostage and is a high risk. Even the Financial Times of London has been writing about this, saying, how can the United States that was getting a free ride off the dollar standard for the last 50 years, ever since 1971, when foreign countries held dollars instead of gold and basically holding dollars means you buy U.S. Treasury bonds to finance the US budget deficit and the balance of payments deficit. How can the United States kill the goose that’s giving it the free ride? Well, the answer is that other countries can only move into gold and there’s an alternative to the dollar because that’s something that all the countries of the world have agreed upon is an asset, not a liability. If you hold any foreign currency, that currency is a liability of a foreign country, and if you hold gold, it’s a pure asset.

2) China's and India's rapprochement has been coming for some time. The border squabble over a few thousand square meters of mountain rocks in recent years never made much sense. The Ukraine crisis has shown that India and China have common interests. Some solution for the border will be worked out and full cooperation will return. This means the end for the Quad, the U.S. made anti-China coalition of Australia, India, Japan and the U.S. itself.

3) The cementation of the EU's vassalage to the U.S. will only be temporarily. European companies have their own interests and they will press their politicians into more realist positions:

It is a long haul for Europe to dispense with Russian gas. Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic said yesterday: “There are gas shortages, and that is why we need to talk to Russians. Europe will move towards reducing its dependence on the Russian gas, but can this happen in the coming years? This is very difficult.”

“Europe consumes 500 billion cubic meters of gas, while America and Qatar can offer 15 billion, up to the last molecule… That is why German and Austrian politicians told me: “We cannot just destroy ourselves. If we impose sanctions on Russia in the oil and gas domain, we will destroy ourselves. It’s like shooting yourself in the foot before rushing into a fight.” This is how certain rational people in the West see it today.”

4) As for NATO: As soon as Russia has finished its operation in the Ukraine it will become clear that it has absolutely no interest in attacking any NATO country. The coming period of high inflation will lead to shrinking defense budgets. A NATO that makes promises, like it did to Ukraine, but has neither will nor means to fulfill them has lost its way and serves no serious purpose. It will wither away.

5) In the Middle East the U.S. has proven to be an unreliably ally. The Saudis and others need someone else to protect their security:

The Russian intervention in the Ukraine took Gulf governments by surprise and caused a great deal of anxiety. Here were governments that have tried in recent years to balance their primary loyalty to the U.S. with a new attempt to improve relations with China and Russia.

While Putin intervened in Syria against the wishes of Gulf regimes, which were trying to unseat the Syrian ruler, Bashar al-Asad, the Gulf acknowledged the resolve and determination of the Russian government. Brutality in Russian or American intervention in Syria is of no concern to Gulf despots. They value first and foremost the willingness of the Putin administration to stand by his ally in Damascus in comparison to what they see as a lack of resolve on the part of the U.S. towards its clients in the Gulf.

The Gulf regimes feel Putin is more loyal than the U.S., and the mischievous behavior of UAE and Saudi Arabia in the last few weeks is an expression of their frustration with U.S. role in the region. (Riyadh, for instance, is in talks with China to trade some of its oil in yuan, which would deal a blow to the U.S. dollar that is used in 80 percent of world oil sales. Until now, the Saudis have exclusively used the dollar. And Emirati and Saudi leaders have refused to take Biden’s phone calls.)

China and Russia will likely cooperate to build some new security architecture in the Middle East.

As all the above plays out it may well turn out that the U.S. policy of overextending and unbalancing Russia did not work but has created a backlash that has severely damaged its own strategic position.

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Bravo sir.
The best summary yet of the cast.
Can I add Liz Truss as a contender for expensive but irrelevant photo opportunities in Moscow.

Zelensky to receive an Academy Award for his role as the feisty president of a country invaded by baby-eating monsters from outer space.

The Ukie people nominated for a Darwin award as best ensemble cast in a supporting role.

Scholz nominated for best conniving stooge, Macron for most irrelevant knave.

Posted by: Robert Macaire | Mar 27 2022 2:24 utc | 197

Posted by: Jpc | Mar 27 2022 12:22 utc | 301

They say that Mariupol is in Russian hands...the video shows when a nazileader is taken away and the people are beating him.

Posted by: Northern Eve | Mar 27 2022 12:26 utc | 302

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 26 2022 18:58 utc | 41

A great encapsulation of the overall state of play, it certainly merits repeating:

"It's not just the ME. U.S. prestige and credibility is irreparably shattered in the Far East, Africa, and even in the Monroe Doctrine landscapes. It may not be obvious yet to the unsophisticated eyes, but when major events arise we will see how regions respond differently from what they would have done so 30-40 years ago. The presidencies of day-dreaming Reagan, CIA bred Daddy Bush, Slick Billy Clinton, imbecile Dubya, shallow Obama, neurotic Trump, and now demented Brandon, have all contributed to the demise of a once great nation. Of course, it was done with the help of the brainwashing specialists of the western MSM."


Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Mar 27 2022 12:33 utc | 303

My laugh for the day, straight from the Ministry of Funny Walks... sorry, the Ministry of Defense:
"Russian forces appear to be concentrating their effort to attempt the encirclement of Ukrainian forces directly facing the separatist regions in the east of the country, advancing from the direction of Kharkiv in the north and Mariupol in the south"

No shit, Sherlock. What have you been doing the last month?

It took these clowns that long to notice it, and even then they wouldn't have worked it out for themselves: Colonel General Sergei Rudskoy had to stand up and slap them across both cheeks with this "news".

They must be splitting their sides with laughter over in the Kremlin.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Mar 27 2022 12:40 utc | 304

Time out for humor or humour if you prefer.
But ask your grammatologist before deciding.

Transgenderism Decision

Why did the Supreme Court nominee cross the street?

She didn't.
She couldn't tell red from green
as she is not a traffic engineer.

Posted by: librul | Mar 27 2022 12:51 utc | 305

One of funny and a bit surreal developments is how Amazon used the hype to start their own bot-net, db1000n.
Well, okay, maybe not started, but bought them out early on.

in russian

The botnet accumulated human bots on the promice to punish Russia, and they initially did blast Russia's government and MSM sites.

But since Amazon started paying them they abandoned "political effort" and now are knocking out Amazon competitors: commercial delivery service. Right know they are bringing down DHL :-D

in english

BTW, mods, you might want to "follow" that repo all changes, so if they would decide to nuke this site you would have early warning. To my observations it takes 30-60 minutes after the change and before bot-net retargets.

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 27 2022 12:51 utc | 306

Let’s not be too quick to believe in Indian-Chinese rapprochement as a consequence of the US sanctions against Russia and resulting de-dollarizarion.

The heart of the issue is China’s plan to construct a mega-dam on the Yarlung Zangbo River, which flows through Tibet and eventually becomes the Brahmaputra when it enters India.

Precise technical details are lacking, but regional media reports indicate it will likely dwarf the massive Three Gorges Dam on the Yangtze River and generate three times as much electricity for distribution in China while robbing India of water from Himalayan and Tibetan snowmelt.

China has already done this to SE Asia (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia) via dams on the upper Mekong.

The end of US hegemony will create a vacuum. As evidenced by Chinese actions toward their geographic neighbors, China seeks to fill that vacuum. There are currently many thousands of Han Chinese farmers in relatively undeveloped Siberia. China will continue to populate Siberia via guest visas until they create an incident that requires them to “defend” their citizens living there.

While Russia has answered the existential threat posed by US-led NATO expansion, they have “shaken hands with the devil” that may devour them over coming decades as China continues its insatiable demand for physical resources. In her attempt to be free of US dominance, Mother Russia has put herself back into vassalage to the Horde.

Posted by: Ciaran | Mar 27 2022 12:57 utc | 307

Posted by: BM | Mar 27 2022 11:16 utc | 284

The West's suicidal sanctions are rapidly dividing the world into two trade blocks: a resource-rich producer block with ready access to Rubles, cheap hydrocarbons and cheap fertilisers, and favouring win-win relations; and a self-bankrupted financialised block with difficult access to expensive hydrocarbons and fertilisers, and difficult access to scarce Rubles.

Until yesterday, no country could afford not to service the debt it owed to the IMF or international banks. It would have meant that this country would default, because its own currency did not count in world markets.

With access to essential commodities and products being decoupled from dollar ownership, doesn't that mean the Global South's debt is also being devalued? They only consist of a threat: We will decouple you from the world market if you no longer pay interest in dollars.

Could this be a nasty surprise for bank deposits?

Posted by: njet | Mar 27 2022 12:58 utc | 308

now they want to go after Caitlin Johnstone. warning, very scary picture of Hilary Clinton. she looks demented.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 27 2022 12:14 utc | 296

It appears that they learned something from the Trudeau/Freeland successful blocking of funds donated to the Canadian trucker convoy. The attempts to block funds to non sanctioned political opposition is not a new . It is also obvious to anyone who scratches the surface that Zio-Cons Blinken and Nuland have engineered this conflict against Russia.

In October, Victoria Nuland, Under Secretary of State, traveled to Russia and, in Moscow, she threatened to crush the Russian economy and demanded the resignation of President Vladimir Putin. But you never heard about it. Look it up online. It is very easy to verify. ‎

Later, [Victoria Nuland] went to Ukraine and ushered in Dimitro Yarosh, a NATO agent renowned for having set up – in 2007– the great Mariupol meeting [in Ukraine] bringing together European Nazi organizations and jihadists from all parts to go to fight against Russia in Chechnya. It was the same Dimitro Yarosh who – in 2014 – backed by his troops from the Right Sector [Pravy Sektor], organized the Maidan Square events and the “regime change” in Ukraine. He was later injured and disappeared for a while. Now he’s back. ‎

So [Victoria Nuland] installed Dimitro Yarosh as special adviser to the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Army [1], who is a perfectly democratic and normal man, but now he has been flanked by this character [Dimitro Yarosh]. And now this character has incorporated the Azov battalion – which is a truly Nazi group, with Nazi insignia and everything and which is led by the ‎‎“White Fuhrer” [Andrey ‎Biletsky] [2] – into the Ukrainian army. ‎

The sanctions against Russian oligarch and comments by Biden are clearly intended to motivate them to initiate regime change in Russia. Wouldn't it be ironic if instead they hired private security to take care of those 2 snakes.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Mar 27 2022 13:11 utc | 309

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Posted by: librul | Mar 27 2022 13:11 utc | 310

«For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power», Biden also claimed that there would be «Sanctions from Hell!». I know I’m not enough of a prefect native speaker to really judge, but it seems to me that the first quote implies the speaker speaking about himself , and the second that The US of North A are indeed a Hell-hole.

Posted by: Tollef Ås/秋涛乐/טלפ וש | Mar 27 2022 15:52 utc | 311

biden has been in power for over half his life and he is 80.... he is one to talk about remaining in power... what a loser.. anyone who listens to him is a loser as well..

Posted by: james | Mar 27 2022 16:14 utc | 312

Mila Kunis (Jewish)now presenting an Oscar and applauding Ukraine is a change from her. During the coup the Ukes were trying to recruit their side she said “ I don’t identify.”

Posted by: VM | Mar 27 2022 16:48 utc | 313

@Robert Lindsay | Mar 27 2022 11:29 utc | 292, 293, 295

"Look in the media at these serious violent crimes... Everybody knows Blacks commit a ton of violent crime... You need to open up a newspaper sometime."

I read the corporate news daily, mostly online but it's the same content. And I am surrounded by people who guzzle the stuff, reinforcing what "everybody knows" by osmosis. As the old ad line went, we're soaking in it.

"Unfortunately, news reports and social media often encourage the idea that most anti-Asian violence and discrimination is committed by people of color... “This is really how crime is framed in the United States — it’s framed as the source is Black...”

Everybody also "knows" that Putin is a tentacled bloodsucking monster from Planet KGB and that the Russian Army is so busy eating the babies they want to save from non-existent Nazis that they forgot their opponent and are losing to valiant UAF counterattacks. Domestic and international, in the Western corporate media it's psyops all the way down.

I put far more trust in studies done by or at least cited by the affected populations themselves, such as the one I cited:


"Wong says a misreading of a study from the American Journal of Criminal Justice, which examined anti-Asian hate crimes and incidents from 1994-2014, may have also contributed to misplaced blame. The study found that compared to anti-Black and anti-Latino hate crimes, a higher proportion of perpetrators of anti-Asian hate crimes were people of color.... Wong added that the misconceptions can also hurt opportunities for racial solidarity."


Divide and rule. The Empire of Lies and Chaos, as abroad, so at home. Speaking of which,

"The spa shootings were quite obviously not hate crimes. The guy had a sex addiction and he went crazy over it and shot up a few of the Asian massage parlors he was frequenting for sex."

The US has military bases all over the planet surrounded by industrialized sex work, having no small part in the fetishization of Asian women—another aspect of racism. He described himself as devoutly Christian; this calls to mind the long history of colonialists "falling" to the "temptations" of the heathen colonized, so often it's practically a theme running through Western culture. And Trump's endless ranting about "the China Virus" played no small part in this mass shooting sparking a wave of copycat anti-Asian violence that had no sex addiction or Christian "purity vs. temptation" component (for now I'm focusing on the racist dimensions; there is easily as much to be exposed of its gross misogyny).

Again I'll link Anti-Asian Racism Never Stopped Being an Outgrowth of U.S. Imperialism:


"The dehumanization of peoples of Asian descent is often isolated and disconnected from the white supremacist violence experienced by Black and indigenous peoples in the United States. Yet the U.S.’s original sins of racialized slavery and settler colonialism helped form the material basis for the rise of anti-Asian racism. During the decade and a half-long U.S. occupation of the Philippines, U.S. soldiers justified mass slaughter and plunder by routinely equating the Filipino people with the same racist tropes used to describe Black Americans and Indigenous nations. Eventually, a unique language of racism was deployed to normalize not only the destruction of the Philippines but also the internment of Japanese residents and the brutal wars of aggression waged in Korea , Vietnam , Laos , and Cambodia . As Black Americans faced the violence and exploitation of Jim Crow, the scope of white supremacy was widening in service of the U.S. project of imperialist domination....

"The truth is that “Kung Flu” and other racist tropes peddled by Trump and his legions are only one aspect of a larger U.S. campaign... The rise of China has placed the hegemony of U.S. imperialism into question on the highest stage possible: that of the fundamental relations between nations and economies. This has spurred a U.S.-led New Cold War against China led by all sections of Washington’s establishment, including its most left-leaning elements."


This result should be familiar to all of us; it's exactly what we see in the same corporate media information war on Russia and all things Russian—also effectively racialized, with Russians effectively "demoted" from their "whiteness". To colonize the planet colonizers had to foment racism in their colonists, soldiers and proselytizers, which of course came back home. Racism is domestic imperialism and imperialism is racism writ global.

This brings us back to my original post, now @148, "the danger of far greater racist violence looms should the Chinese send a carrier group or two to the bottom, causing thousands of US casualties." I'm pretty sure that Black people here in the US aren't going to be the shock troops of this wave, but white folks who are much more identified with US militarism and imperialism.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 27 2022 17:05 utc | 314

BM @288--

IMO, Hudson would mostly agree. I suggest if you haven't to read this item and search out Hudson's comment. Then if you haven't, read this interview. Currently, I don't have enough time to write a proper response, but you're on the right path. More about the new situation will be revealed next week. Also, Ruble pricing is only on NatGas for the moment, not all Russian exports, although there is an internal rule about exporters needing to make the exchange with the central bank. Overall, good work!

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 27 2022 17:41 utc | 315

The USian president declared that "‘For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power', Biden also claimed that there would be «Sanctions from Hell!». I know I’m not enough of a prefect native speaker to really judge, but it seems to me that the first quote implies the speaker speaking about himself , and the second that The US of North A are indeed a Hell.

Posted by: Tollef Åsll | Mar 27 2022 18:34 utc | 316

FBI Uniform Crime Reporting Program data:

Table 43
Table 6

I couldn't find the table for victims of violent assault, but previously the racial distribution of offender/victim for assaults closely followed the distribution seen in the homicide table.

Looking at the Uniform Crime Reporting data it is difficult to see how one can be justified in saying that "white" people are responsible for the majority of violent assaults on/murders of Asians in America. Of course, I am operating under the assumption that "hate crimes" are also actual violent crimes. Perhaps if we include all interactions that could be perceived as an offence, whether real like a punch to the head or not like a "microaggression", then perhaps white people do commit more offenses. After all, I probably commit half a dozen "microaggressions" before lunch on any given day without even realizing it. If we count such "perceived" offenses, then in the current environment of "identity politics" hysteria there are doubtless hundreds of millions of perceived "hate crimes" committed by whitish people every day in America alone.

If, on the other hand, we are only talking about "hate crimes" that are also violent crimes, in that they include, ya`know, some violence, then Black Americans have taken home the championship belt for that every year for decades now.

It is funny, as in strange, but Black Americans have been the offenders in more mass murders in America than whitish people for many years running, but you ask a college educated white collar urban American what they think and they will get the answer wrong almost 100% of the time. It is weird because they are supposed to be more knowledgeable and know how to check their answers but the always get that wrong. With that said, of you ask the same demographic if the Syrian military used chemical weapons against civilians then they will get that one wrong too. Likewise if you ask then if Russia is likely to use chemical weapons in the Ukraine.

I posit that the source of these mistaken views of reality are all the same: Mass media. This, by the way, is also why "Trumpists" are less likely to join the hysterical Russophobia sweeping western cultures. The "Trumpists" have seen how the mass media shamelessly lies, distorts, and gaslights to promote the neolib/neocon agenda. It is more difficult to get oneself emotionally invested in the narratives the presstitutes are offering when it is obvious that they are lying.

Request to those who are saying that whitish "deplorables" in America are dominating the anti-Asian hate crime wave: Please link an article in the establishment mass media that is promoting the narrative that assaults against Asians are mostly being committed by Black Americans. In almost all articles on the subject of anti-Asian violence that I have read in the establishment press the description of the perpetrator will include sex, height, and maybe the color of the perpetrator's jacket, but unless the perpetrator is white the race will be omitted from that description. If the attacker is white then the race will always be includedin the description provided by presstitutes. In fact, this pattern is so universal in the establishment press that many people now automatically assume that if the race of the attacker is left unstated then it must be because that attacker is Black.

Why do presstitutes do this? Perhaps it is reverse psychology intended to stir up anger among the "deplorables", but most likely it is due to what they learned in the "Journalistic Ethics" (syllabus) class at their sheltered and safe-spaced Ivy League university: "Powerful images can shape public opinion, but with such power comes substantial ethical and intellectual responsibility." These exceptionally self-important individuals in the mass media believe to the core of their being that it is their solemn duty to god and country to create a better future by gaslighting "deplorables" into behaving as the presstitutes believe is proper and correct. This delusion among the "professional-managerial class" is allowed to persist by the oligarchs who own those PMC whores because from where the old-school oligarchs view society it is obvious that the ignorant PMC's heartfelt efforts to create a better society through gaslighting is actually highly divisive and thus serves the oligarchy's interests.

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 27 2022 18:52 utc | 317

oh so now we trust the FBI. you know the agency that tried to get Trump repeatedly. by all means believe their crime reports, keeping it mind they didn't even keep close track of cop murders of civilians for a long time.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 27 2022 19:51 utc | 318

I have personal experience with how data is managed in a government bureaucracy. Every edit to the data is documented. Data such as in the above tables is usually cross-checked against multiple databases. If a discrepancy is found or suspected in the data an audit will be performed that will identify exactly who made the false or erroneous data edit and when they made it. It is difficult to fudge these numbers at the federal level and being found to have tried to do so is career-ending.

While I do not doubt that the FBI is racist, I do very much doubt that any bureaucrats there are stupid enough to throw their careers away trying to fudge the data in their databases. It is too easy to find any alterations made and there are too many people challenging the data for such alterations to go unnoticed. That juice just ain't worth the squeeze. Even during the Obama years they didn't try to "adjust" the data to hide the violence levels in America's Black communities and instead just stopped making the data available to the public.

I am confident that the data in the FBI's databases is as accurate and valid as the db admins there can make it. That doesn't mean I trust the FBI but rather that I have a bit of an understanding of how data science works. Administrations change, along with top brass in every government bureau, but the career data people in government have to always be prepared to defend the quality of their product. They don't even care what the social or political implications are of the columns of numbers and text that they work with. They just want that data to be accurate and valid.

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 27 2022 20:45 utc | 319

RE: India/China

There’s little chance that the Hindu Fascist … er “secular democracy” of India is sincere in coming to a border settlement or rapprochement with China.

The Indians have been playing both sides of the geopolitical unipolar vs. multipolar conflict for a long time. They are the South Asian version of Turkey in this fundamental manner. And that is not a compliment.

For the past several years, the Indians have been cozying up to the American Axis in the hopes of extracting concessions and unqualified support as part of their mutual anti-China ambitions in the region.

Unfortunately for India, they discovered that Uncle Sam has demands of his own and there will be a price for this support. Thus, even the very stable genius Donald Trump was not stupid enough to give India a complete geopolitical blank check in this agenda.

More recently, however, India has had its finger in the air and feels that the geopolitical winds are shifting. As such, India is opportunistically tacking away from the American Axis out of fear that the American Titanic is plunging towards the economic abyss and India doesn’t want to drown with it.

India may think that feigning “diplomacy” with China will help to ingratiate itself with Russia or even gain leverage to extract concessions from the Americans. I doubt anybody will be fooled by Indian geopolitical machinations.

Posted by: ak74 | Mar 28 2022 6:27 utc | 320

C1ue, I'm confusing nothing, the progressive tax code limits the predations of FIRE and encourage actual production. You're the one who's confused.

related: Reagan killed the progressive tax code, and with those low taxes, our economy grew from 15% finance to 45% as it is today. NAFTA may have gotten some buzz under Reagan's second term, but it was really HW Bush that pushed it, but it was too hot, Democrats opposed it; it took Clinton to get NAFTA passed. But, there was really little justification for NAFTA under progressive income taxes, but after that was killed, off-shoring made sense. There was in the late 80's a exodus of corp execs, getting bought out, retired early. (my step father was VP at Equifax; ironically he understood none of this, my Grandfather and CFP uncle did) Those execs had worked for years earning exactly $200k/yr plus some benefits; they were cut out of the firm and the new kids started paying themselves much more, despite little to no real gains in revenues or profits. (this is all public data, you can search it yourself)

The TPP wasn't such a bad deal, tariffs and trade impediments aren't good; they're just another tax. TPP would have included all of Asia in a trade pact that excluded China and priced everything in dollars; that would be pretty useful about now; to Donnie too has his own goal.

Those Zumwalt ships don't float, the F-35 don't fly, and the patriot doesn't intercept even sub-sonic missiles. Long range super sonic missiles could be intercepted much more easily than short/mid-range. It seems the US is many steps behind Russia and China with their simpler, more functional weaponry and designs. We need some of those NAZI designers not the Nazi people; there goes the US courting the wrong immigrants. We do need the laborers though, seems the last 3 president's border crackdown has found there's lots of jobs Americans don't want to do; but they do.

Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 28 2022 12:39 utc | 321

Kadath; indeed you can slice data; like being more scared of black men than the whites who are more likely to assault you. Even Asian minorities are influenced by the media's portrayal of Black men being a menace, when most crime is that of opportunity, proximity. Again, that's the only thing your anecdote proves, as anecdotal information that runs counter to the broader actual stats show bias in the telling/teller of the anecdote; and offers little perspective of the reality

Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 28 2022 13:11 utc | 322

we have our own Nazi here, Bob Lindsey; wow, you're on the wrong web page

Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 28 2022 13:36 utc | 323

Billy Gruff; you DON'T understand how statistics are manipulated, it's not changing data, it's bias in the collecting and reporting. Is the robbery of a store a hate crime? Are Asians relegated to running stores in "black neighborhoods?" What is an "Asian?" Are blacks more likely to have nothing to lose in a system; are Asians not often representations of "white" or the "majority" or the "haves" Poor people often prey on those few institutions that exist in those neighborhoods, squabbles and fighting among their own. There is much "violence" committed in the legal process; that is legal and never censured. These of course aren't reported, they're not "crimes" by they're no less offensive. If you don't have the means to hire a lawyer to fuck some foe (be it of your own making or not) you might do something to them with simpler means. Again, a lot of bigotry in your perspectives. A lot of manipulation by the media. A lot of irrational fear of the other, that eventually becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. That's what CRT is, that even without actual racist people or policies, that the vestiges of Jim Crow and past racist policy still results in racist effects in policy outcomes--not that we're all racists. But, racists and callous hearted people may project their deep racism feeling convicted for their latent feelings. Again, conservatives are more emotional, ironically and more fearful than their more liberal peers. Some of that is borne of self-conviction, of knowing the past and their own attitudes; and knowing if it were them, they'd be resentful of how they'd been treated. Chris Rock pointed it out; though far poorer, few whites would change lives with him.

Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 28 2022 14:08 utc | 324

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