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March 23, 2022
More Sanctions On Russia Will Destroy Europe

On February 21 Russia announced that it would recognize the Donbas republics. A day later it did so. The 'west' immediately announced sanctions which in fact had been prepared in advance. On February 24 Russian troops crossed the border into Ukraine.

The Russian ruble immediately took a big hit. It has since recovered a bit.


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Today's news will bring the ruble to a new heights.

Kommersant reports (machine translation):

Putin instructed to convert gas contracts with unfriendly countries into rubles

President Vladimir Putin instructed to issue a directive to Gazprom to convert contracts into rubles for unfriendly countries. In his opinion, supplying Russian goods to the EU, the USA and receiving payment in dollars and euros "does not make any sense for us." Against this background, the ruble moved to growth on the Moscow Exchange.

“Both the US and the EU have basically defaulted on their obligations to Russia. And now everyone in the world knows that obligations in dollars and euros may not be fulfilled. <…> It is quite obvious that in this regard, it makes no sense for us to supply our goods to both the EU and the USA and receive payment in dollars, euros and a number of other currencies. Therefore, I have decided to implement in the shortest possible time a set of measures to transfer payments for our natural gas supplied to unfriendly countries to Russian rubles,” Mr. Putin said at a meeting with the government.

The President instructed the Central Bank and the government to determine within a week the order of operations for the purchase of rubles on the domestic market by buyers of Russian gas. He claims that Russia will continue to supply gas "in accordance with the volumes and according to the pricing principles concluded in the contracts."

The dollar exchange rate on the Moscow Exchange fell below 100 rubles. for the first time since March 3rd. As of 15:37, the US currency is trading at 101.55 rubles. (-2 rubles). The euro exchange rate fell by 2.85 rubles to 111.65 rubles. The maximum dollar fell to 94.99 rubles, the euro – to 109.7 rubles.

The European Union, the United States, Great Britain and a number of other countries have imposed sanctions against Russia in response to the military operation in Ukraine, which has been carried out since February 24 on the orders of Mr. Putin. One of the measures was the freezing of about half of the Central Bank's gold and foreign exchange reserves ($300 billion).

To pay in ruble one first has to buy rubles. With higher demand for rubles and no change in supplies the price for the Russian currency will go up. As Russia is selling hydrocarbons and other resources for billions of dollars per day the ruble is likely to soon reach record heights.

On February 28 another round of sanctions hit Russia. The part of the Russian central bank reserves that were stored in the 'west' were frozen. The central bank immediately pushed its interest rate from 9% to 20% to prevent a flight from the ruble. This helped to lessen the damage but made credit expensive and has hit the future growth potential in Russia.

But with a high new rubles demand from the outside of Russia the central bank will soon be able to lower its interest rate to more normal levels. Credit conditions will ease and investment in Russia, to replace products that had so far been imported, will rise again.

Today's move to demand rubles for hydrocarbons is only on of the many steps Russia can, and likely will take, to retaliate for sanctions from the 'west'.

As I wrote previously:

All energy consumption in the U.S. and EU will now come at a premium price. This will push the EU and the U.S. into a recession. As Russia will increase the prices for exports of goods in which it has market power – gas, oil, wheat, potassium, titanium, aluminum, palladium, neon etc – the rise in inflation all around the world will become significant.

Meanwhile the New York Times writes:

As he heads to Europe, President Biden will press U.S. allies to help impose even more aggressive sanctions on Russia.

Biden demands that Europe suicides itself while he is protecting the U.S. industry. I hope that some people in the European capitals are still able to think clear enough to recognize the racket the U.S. is trying to run here:

Together with the economic devastation that U.S. and European sanctions on Russia are causing in their own economies this will end in regime-changes in several European countries. The U.S. is of course again protecting itself from as much as it can at the cost of others.


Source: Bloomberg – bigger

Tony Wood asks:

The question remains, why did all those who for so long foretold this war do so little to stop it, and so much to hasten the disaster Russia has now set in motion?

Indeed. Why didn't the government of Germany guarantee in writing that it would veto any additional NATO membership? It would have solved at least half of the problem. Why didn't any other NATO government do so?

And what are they doing now? Where are their initiatives for peace?

Wake up. Otherwise this will end in disaster. Not for Russia but for the rest of Europe.

Comments

So, imagine if you will, that I wish to purchase something from Russia. Say Natural Gas.
I , however, am in Germany and all I have is Euros in my pocket (or maybe some USD). How do I acquire some Rubles?
The Russians wont take my Euros or my USD in exchange. What do I need to give the Central Bank in Russia to acquire Rubles? Gold?
Also, I read above that the Italians declared that they will continue to pay in Euros. However, If Russia no longer accepts this currency as a way of settling the transaction, does that mean that the Italians (?OMV) will not receive their product?
Finally, I can speculate that the $300 Billion account may have been a sacrificial move (much akin to an obvious chess move), in order to gain an advantage on the board. At this point, theft is theft, no matter which country looks at it. Keeping a dollar account, that can be seized at any time, is an inducement to all financial risk assessments to evaluate their dollar holdings. And reduce risk accordingly.

Posted by: AParadiseLost | Mar 23 2022 22:58 utc | 201

I think what’s coming next down the pipeline is a partition and balkanization of Ukraine. And this idea is coming not necessarily from Russia, but from the West, and that’s the idea our propaganda is pushing.
https://readingjunkie.com/2022/03/23/whats-next-for-ukraine/

Posted by: Ian Kummer | Mar 23 2022 23:03 utc | 202

104- Stupid move. Yes this is correct as it will drive de- dollarize around the world. However to start at the top China now will lead de dollarizing slowly.- The Chinese should be worried about the ownership of US treasuries which is valued at over a trillion dollars. This will be closely watched this year. ( if Trump runs and wins watch before the inauguration that Trump has said he will cancel China’s US asset/treasuries to the tune of 6 billion) anyway back on point you might see China start asking for exports to the US to be paid in yuan. If they wanted to stick it up the US ask for part Rubles, but the Chinese are smart. So I agree this is the start of two part process financial system. The US one will continue properly at a lower devalued dollar rate- and since a large part of the US economy is a financial paper pushing exercise, this value to the US economy will decline also, as opposed to he Chinese products productions ( real stuff) economy. So the Chinese /Russian financial configuration will become the more dominant from a initial slow start. What will increase the base of change will be a severe recession which the US will have no policy prescription. Thus this US recession it will endure for years spluttering along. The US can’t raise interest rates as it will make the US government debt unpayable. I also like President Putin’s reaction and actions regarding this financial ‘war’ his actions have gone down well in neutral countries, ( ie rest of the world). As of now being the biggest wheat export food producer this gives Putin great clout especially in the 2.3rd world. As his actions have been to give discount to poor countries this shows Russian restraint in a good light while the Nestles of this world and the US government action in say for explample in Afghanistan where by half the population is staving while they ‘steal the money’ of the Afghanistan authorizes, revealing the US government criminal mindset.

Posted by: col from OZ | Mar 23 2022 23:16 utc | 203

Europe has brought more misery to the world than the rest of the planet put together. I am not particularly concerned by the self inflicted seppuku of Europe.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Mar 23 2022 23:17 utc | 204

AParadiseLost | Mar 23 2022 22:58 utc | 201 ‘Finally, I can speculate that the $300 Billion account may have been a sacrificial move (much akin to an obvious chess move), in order to gain an advantage on the board.’
There was no ten d chess move.
Russia did not expect US and Europe to commit suicide. Russia on its own will go close to destroying the US dollar economy. The Euro is for all intents and purposes worthless. Without gas Europe’s economy is finished and they need rubles to buy gas.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 23 2022 23:17 utc | 205

karlof1@112
I understand the finiteness of metal commodities, but what about the (potential) infiniteness of plant commodities? wheat, rice, corn, potatoes – – -. Assuming global warming does not devastate all farming.!
These can only become more valuable with time because: less arable land, less fertilizer, more people, more expensive shipping (oil anyone?) etc.
I need another reincarnation just so I can see what (idiotic) humans do with the planet over the next few hundred years!

Posted by: digital dinosaur | Mar 23 2022 23:18 utc | 206

Peter AU1 | Mar 23 2022 22:56 utc | 199
i saw some of the footage as well peter… i didn’t understand how it worked, but you describe it well.. i mentioned yesterday how the cbc here was using a picture from azov.org.ua i guess that is where the cbc gets all of its information from too.. either that or via crystia freelands office.. one or the other..

Posted by: james | Mar 23 2022 23:21 utc | 207

Russian military man’s view of the conflict posted at Southfront. A bit OT, but interesting:
https://southfront.org/without-hysterics-and-insults/

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 23 2022 23:22 utc | 208

Posted by: Sushi | Mar 23 2022 21:04 utc | 159
“From A Fly On The NATO Wall in Brussels” […]
I still do appreciate fiction from time to time, and there’s a glimpse of hope within me that you’re right on this. But to be honest, I think France and especially Germany first have to hit rock bottom, then go further down a bit, and a little more, and only then MIGHT grow the balls to say “fuck the US”. It seems to me like an abusive relationship in which the victim suffers but still is willing to enable the abuser, because s/he likes him so much and doesn’t want to disappoint him. And couldn’t just leave, because the abuser has his problems too, you know? And even though he beats me mercilessly, who would stand by his side if I just leave him? The poor thing would be all alone and would get desperate and do who-knows-what. So I think it’s better for everyone if I sacrifice my own selfish needs, so he can get better, or at least not worse…
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 23 2022 21:21 utc | 169
“Greeks are likely smirking just a tad as Germany is forced to suffer the Greek’s fate.”
I really hope they’ll get a chance to laugh their asses off. The media campaign against the “lazy greek” back then was one of the most shameful low points in German media history after WW2, only topped by anti-Trump a bit later and anti-Russia right now. Nobody knew the real back story, but everyone was convinced the greeks deserved it because of their lazy attitude towards work ethics, and their generally too relaxed, “southern european” way of doing things. Pure racism, founded on old stereotypes only. That in the end it was all about the money German banks were in risk to loose was never really mentioned except in alternative media of course. Which back then much fewer people read. I’d say about 95% of the people here today still think it was only Greece’s fault.
Posted by: Therapist | Mar 23 2022 21:26 utc | 174
This is just plain wrong. Take your racist shit elsewhere, best to your facebook site, this is a blog where humanistic people discuss and offer opinions.

Posted by: xototox | Mar 23 2022 23:25 utc | 209

Thanks for the replies!! I just finished my Zoom conference with Dr. Hudson and his other Patreon patrons and learned his POV on several things. First, almost every EU politico is bought by the Outlaw US Empire. Two, if nations were to try and exit EU and go sovereign as I suggested up thread, they’d be attacked by CIA’s Terrorist Foreign Legion and Gladio elements; so, if a nation contemplates doing that, it must seriously prepare to defend itself. Third, the elements behind the scenes controlling those who control the Duopoly are Fascists as my research suggests (When I asked him about this, Hudson’s face lit up surprised that someone else has come to the same conclusion as him.) and are centered in the CIA/NSA/National Security Complex very much as William Gruff has hypothesized. Fourth, The Outlaw US Empire’s aim is to destroy Europe by denying its ability to trade with Eurasia and become even further dependent on the Empire. Fifth, I asked directly if the Outlaw US Empire would accept being subordinated to Eurasia once the Putin Doctrine remakes the international order or if it would blow up the world; Hudson replied that given Russia’s great advantage in weapons technology that they probably wouldn’t make the attempt. Sixth, elaborating on the nature of the Neoliberalcons, Hudson said they’re awash in the false reality they’ve created, although they seem to understand the reality of Russia’s military superiority; otherwise, they don’t seem to care about anything–I’ve been saying they’re Anti-Human, but I didn’t ask if he thought the same, although IMO he implied as much. Seventh, it’s very unlikely that there’ll be E-versions of his books because of their content. Eighth, the new international currency will likely be a basket of currencies, gold, and perhaps some other commodities as we’ve speculated and will likely be centered in Shanghai. I wish we had more time as the question of China continuing to hold treasuries wasn’t asked, nor were others having merit.
Again, Hudson’s adamant that the main target of this current phase of Outlaw US Empire aggression is aimed at Europe exclusively while using Russia as a Straw Man for all but the Empire to attack as the sanctions chart above shows very well. You can become involved in this manner with Dr. Hudson by becoming a patron via Patreon at the $9/mo level or higher, which you can access through his website. I’m hoping we’ll continue with these Zoom meetings every 4-6 weeks and that he’ll pay more attention to the questions we pose at his Patreon page.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 23 2022 23:26 utc | 210

@ChasMark #184
Dollars and euros held by a central bank are not literal cash – they are bonds. While a CB *could* hold literal foreign currency cash – this cash would erode every year from inflation. Since the goal of the CB is to hold this foreign currency for liquidity in its own nation’s trade – this is a significant loss.
Thus the dollars and euros held by the CBR were US Treasury and ECB bonds. Such bonds are not physical – they are ledger entries in American and European banks including central banks.

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 23 2022 23:28 utc | 211

@ AParadiseLost | Mar 23 2022 22:58 utc | 201
My understanding is that today’s announcement is only that “unfriendly” countries will have to pay for gas in rubles, but that the details — how the transactions will work — are still being determined and will be announced next week.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 23 2022 23:28 utc | 212

Posted by: AParadiseLost | Mar 23 2022 22:58 utc | 201

I , however, am in Germany and all I have is Euros in my pocket (or maybe some USD). How do I acquire some Rubles?

By selling something Russians want. Volkswagen cars, Nivea cream, Riesling wine, whatever.

Posted by: hopehely | Mar 23 2022 23:30 utc | 213

Dollars and euros held by a central bank are not literal cash - they are bonds. While a CB *could* hold literal foreign currency cash - this cash would erode every year from inflation. Since the goal of the CB is to hold this foreign currency for liquidity in its own nation's trade - this is a significant loss. Thus the dollars and euros held by the CBR were US Treasury and ECB bonds. Such bonds are not physical - they are ledger entries in American and European banks including central banks. Posted by: c1ue | Mar 23 2022 23:28 utc | 211 Which is precisely why I can’t imagine the CBR will be selling rubles for US Treasury and ECB bonds. The Russians know that the USA/EU could refuse to honor those bonds on the slightest pretext.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 23 2022 23:32 utc | 214

Malenkov@185 the RT article days Ukrainian rada asked again for no fly zone and compared WWII damage in Hamburg from allied bombing to Karkov now. Article wonders why this particular analogy was chosen.

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 23 2022 23:32 utc | 215

@ the pessimist | Mar 23 2022 23:32 utc | 215
Thanks! RT headlines are often clickbait-y, but this one halfway makes sense. After all, why didn’t the Rada use the example of, say, the London Blitz?

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 23 2022 23:36 utc | 216

@jjh, #103:

The absolute stupidity of those in the Biden Administration will go down in history as probably the dumbest ever in the history of the world, not just the United States.

One of the dumbest ever! The Trump Administration, in waging the trade war, was just as dumb and incompetent.
In fact, if one looks around at all U.S. governmental entities (and even academics, these days), one comes away shaking head lamenting the death of intelligence in the United States of America!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 23 2022 23:37 utc | 217

Great information B. Russia – slow steady and sticking to the plan. The West is apoplectic. The UK newspapers are so over the top its not funny. Bizzaro world in the west.

Posted by: DW | Mar 23 2022 23:41 utc | 218

karlof1 | Mar 23 2022 23:26 utc | 210
Europe being the US target is something I have to disagree with. It is like saying the terrorists in Syria were the US target. Like the terrorists of Syria, Europe is a consumable owned by the US. Russia and China are and always will be the targets.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 23 2022 23:46 utc | 219

Central Bankers will need to upgrade their computers. Print. Print ….
U.S.A: Stimules checks for gas.
Proposal in Congress to send $100 per month stimulus checks direct to consumers,,
“A trio of bills in Congress would offer stimulus payments and rebates to help and would provide a monthly energy rebate of $100 per person.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stimulus-check-gas-prices-coming/
EU Considers $100 Billion Energy Relief Package For Companies
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/EU-Considers-100-Billion-Energy-Relief-Package-For-Companies.html

Bloomberg cites MF daily that said the European Union on Wednesday is considering a massive 100 billion euro bond issuance for a new relief program that would provide relief funds to businesses hit hardest by rising gas and electricity prices, as criticism soars about out of control commodity inflation and the bloc’s inability to tame prices.
MF didn’t cite sources, though it said the issuance could be approved within the next 15 days.
The news comes as the European Commission has proposed a plan to make Europe independent from Russian fossil fuels following the invasion of Ukraine.
Even before the invasion, many European countries were facing extraordinarily high natural gas, electricity, and fuel costs. There’s even risks of a diesel shortage emerging. The latest developments from Ukraine have exacerbated the situation. [.]

will not mitigate anytime soon. Will take up to 10 years to replace Russian products.

Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 23 2022 23:48 utc | 220

ChasMark | Mar 23 2022 22:04 utc | 184
Perhaps the simplest explanation is that if they were to have been suddenly removed it would have been a giant tipoff to the West that Russia was up to something. Leaving them in place was suggestive of business as usual a well as being the trap that led logically to “no we won’t accept payment in US dollars”.
To me it looks like a concealed check – the smartest move in chess.

Posted by: Cyberhorse | Mar 23 2022 23:51 utc | 221

On the subject of “dumbness” in an interview clip posted over at ZH Newt G. (no hero of mine nor the sharpest pencil in the box, but…) says VP Harris may be the dumbest person ever chosen as VP.
We are being driven into a ditch/off a cliff, or ushering in Armageddon (maybe all three at once) by idiots.
ZH also has a bullet point summary of recent developments regarding Ukraine in one of their headliner articles that makes one begin to wonder about the power of prayer.

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 23 2022 23:55 utc | 222

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 23 2022 21:32 utc | 175
I’m afraid I agree with you. Absent some similar scenario, I fail to see how we avoid the outcome described by Patroklos | Mar 23 2022 21:12 utc | 163:
Shit’s gonna get real one way or another.
May be a very bumpy ride.

Posted by: Sushi | Mar 23 2022 23:56 utc | 223

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 23 2022 23:46 utc | 219
“Europe being the US target is something I have to disagree with.”
Maybe you look at it from the wrong angle. It’s not about destroying Europe, it’s about keeping it down as a serious competitor. All US wars in the last decades have not been about winning, they have been about destabilizing and keeping the nation in question down to prevent an increase in power. With certain nice side effects like selling a lot of weapons and getting a lot of cheap ressources. With Europe I guess they play the same on an economic level – so far – (I mentioned the low economic warfare US vs. Germany a while ago), they only want to distract and hinder development, keep them dependent, not completely destroy their market.

Posted by: xototox | Mar 24 2022 0:00 utc | 224

humour
https://twitter.com/v13155800/status/1506778475360882696?s=21

Posted by: james | Mar 24 2022 0:01 utc | 225

@AParadiseLost #201:

So, imagine if you will, that I wish to purchase something from Russia. Say Natural Gas.
I , however, am in Germany and all I have is Euros in my pocket (or maybe some USD). How do I acquire some Rubles?
The Russians wont take my Euros or my USD in exchange. What do I need to give the Central Bank in Russia to acquire Rubles? Gold?

How I imagine this will work:

  1. Volkswagen manufactures a car and transports it to its Russian subsidiary.
  2. Volkswagen’s Russian subsidiary sells the car to a Russian customer and receives rubles in its account at Russian Bank A.
  3. Uniper buys rubles from Volkswagen:
    • Volkswagen’s Russian subsidiary transfers rubles from its account at Russian Bank A to Uniper’s Russian subsidiary’s account at Russian Bank B.
    • Uniper transfers euros from its account at German Bank C to Volkswagen’s account at German Bank D.
  4. Uniper’s Russian subsidiary uses rubles in its account at Russian Bank B to pay Gazprom for natural gas.
  5. Gazprom produces natural gas at one of its fields and transports it to Uniper over one of the pipelines.

Basically, every European natural gas importer that buys Russian natural gas will have to set up a subsidiary in Russia, and this subsidiary will have to open a ruble-denominated account at a Russian bank.

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2022 0:01 utc | 226

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 23 2022 23:17 utc | 205

The Euro is for all intents and purposes worthless. Without gas Europe’s economy is finished and they need rubles to buy gas.

But they cannot buy rubles as the US sanctions prohibit their banks from conducting transactions with the sole source of rubles.
Some wizard in Mumbai or Shanghai will figure out a way to perform the transaction and render both the City and Wall Street increasingly irrelevant.

Posted by: Sushi | Mar 24 2022 0:04 utc | 227

Won’t the actual amount of physical rubles available versus virtual rubles make a difference similar to the big difference between paper and physical gold?
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 23 2022 19:24 utc | 127
No, because the value of the Ruble is ultimately irrelevant to the benchmark price, which I believe is in USD or Euros. Let’s say for example that the benchmark price of a barrel cubic metre of gas is 500 Euros, and Rubles have appreciated to the extent that the Ruble has reached parity with the Euro at a 1:1 exchange rate, meaning a cubic metre of gas costs 500 Rubles.
See how mathematically it can never reach the point that you are speaking of?

Posted by: Jake the Snake | Mar 24 2022 0:07 utc | 228

@ karlof1 | Mar 23 2022 23:26 utc | 210 with the Michael Hudson report….Thanks!
You wrote

Hudson’s adamant that the main target of this current phase of Outlaw US Empire aggression is aimed at Europe exclusively while using Russia as a Straw Man for all but the Empire to attack as the sanctions chart above shows very well.

My view is that there is an Outlaw Empire and the US is the current face of it but I think that the US is getting Shock Doctrine treatment as well.
The folks that own global private finance don’t care anymore about America than EU because those groupings are factions to pit against each other while profit is made on the process. As long as private property, unfettered inheritance and ownership of the tools of global finance are never questioned directly, the US can be relegated to the 3rd world status it already visits along with EU countries as we are seeing.
The brainwashing runs deep and wide…..

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 24 2022 0:08 utc | 229

I see the Zion controlled US dollar hegemony collasping; many see it differently, wanting to drag out it’s evil existence. The minute Saudi Arabia settles their oil deal with China; we are finished.
Russia has not even even begun to hit back with sanctions, let alone selling/giving wheat to third world countries. Europe can take the rest at a price Russia sets, in a currency they say.
I might be wrong but I doubt it. It was always going to happen; a fool’s Paradise built on illusion, and false promises, with a feeling of false supremity.

Posted by: Karl luck | Mar 24 2022 0:08 utc | 230

IMO, the reason behind asking for payment in rubles has more to do with how cross-border payments technically work.
if person A has a bank account at the A-Bank and transfers money to person B with an account at B-bank, the first step is sending the message (typically via Swift). but this is only the first step. since bank accounts are liabilibilies of the bank with respect to the account holders, A-bank now owes money to B-bank, and this needs to be settled. if both banks are in the same country it is easy. both banks (supposed they are big enough) have an account at the central bank and settlement can done via adjusting the amounts on those accounts.
for a money transfer from say germany to spain, one would have to go one step further. first the accounts the two banks have at their national central banks would have be adjusted. but now the german central bank owes money to the spanish central bank, which also needs to be settled. this can done by the adjusting the accounts that those two central banks have at the European Central Bank (ECB).
International transfers work similarly. also here both central banks ultimately have to settle their accounts to complete the money transfer procedure. this can be done via the accounts (denominated in SDR) the respective central banks have at the BIS (Bank for international settlement).
Now the thing is the following. The EU intentionally did not block all russian owned banks equipped with a EU banking license. they for instance spared Gazprombank. payment in Euro to e.g. Gazprombank would mean the money would never really leave the EU. money is just numbers on accounts, and if the accounts are with banks within the EU jurisdiction, it would always remain at risk. EU just block ithe accounts.
By forcing the EU to pay in rubles, you – simply speaking – get the money out of the EU.
additionally you force the ECB to find a way to do settlement with the russian central bank (instead of doing it the cheap way via a russian owned bank with european banking license).
settlement via the BIS – as mentioned above – is not an option, as the BIS stopped doing business with the russian central bank. In order to be able to pay in rubles, the EU therefore either has to either remove this ban, or come up with a cunning plan how to technically do it. maybe money transfer via china ?

Posted by: Sternberg | Mar 24 2022 0:11 utc | 231

Posted by: ChasMark | Mar 23 2022 22:04 utc | 184
I may be able to help. Those assets are sanctioned. When Russia pays a bill, they wire instructions to the payor and payee to make the transaction, thereby putting financial institutions in a world of hurt. Because they either break the sanction, or default. (They’d beg regulators to allow payment and acceptance of payment, thereby undermining the sanctions regime.)
Also, forcing payment in Rubles (I spell it that way because I’m a rube!) creates another headache for payer (EU) financial institutions: Rubles don’t earn return unless they are held in a liquid financial asset that pays a return: Russian Debt! Otherwise it is barbarous as holding gold for them. So they’ll lobby to be allowed to buy Russian debt, or charge a premium to make the payment. Quite mischievous.
Please feel free to correct me–I’m learning here.

Posted by: bobzibub | Mar 24 2022 0:14 utc | 232

Here is a wild thought (related to my comment @76): Let’s say that Russia makes a limited number of rubles available for purchase, at a reasonable price (whatever that may be), by countries who are not on the “unfriendlies” list — maybe in particular countries who have been affected most prominently by US sanctions (China, Iran, Venezuela, Syria, etc.) These countries are then free to sell the rubles to the “unfriendlies” at whatever price they deem acceptable. Since there are a limited number, scarcity alone will bid up the price, and as there are a limited number of holders, they can extract a premium there as well. The premium need not come in the form of price in the traditional sense — it could also come in the form of political/economic concessions, such as sanctions relief. Russia gains further goodwill with these countries, establishes their reliability even further, and promotes the ruble as a legitimate currency in international trade.
Of course, I am speaking about this from a naive perspective, so it may not be technically feasible or there may be pitfalls that I am not recognizing.

Posted by: The Space Wanderer | Mar 24 2022 0:16 utc | 233

Lavrov gave another presentation plus Q&A today during a meeting with MGIMO students and teachers. He gets straight to the point:
“What is happening now in the world is not so much about Ukraine, but about attempts to form a new order. About ten years ago, our Western colleagues, instead of the term “international law” (which was called for all the years of the UN’s existence), began to demand that everyone respect the ‘rules-based world order’ and observe them. No one presents these ‘rules’ to anyone, because they do not exist. For each specific case, they are created anew. They are written in a narrow circle of Western countries, then pass it off as the ultimate truth. We are witnessing the apotheosis of the Ukrainian crisis. There is no doubt that one of the ‘rules’ that the West wants to implement is to deter any competitor. Now it is Russia, but China is declared next (or all this will happen in parallel). The goal of this ‘rules-based world order’ is the complete revival of the unipolar world.”
Based on my conversation today with Dr. Hudson, Lavrov gets most of it correct, except the “competitor” being “deterred” first is Europe/EU, which is now deemed no longer civilized by Russia, while the goal is the preservation of what remains of the Outlaw US Empire, which has failed in its attempt to establish Full Spectrum Dominance and a totalitarian unipolar world. As I mentioned above, the Empire wants to sever the commercial relationship between the EU and the emerging Eurasian Bloc that it would in time join. Russia has now helped to sever that relationship further by demanding rubles for its hydrocarbons. The resulting European Depression will see its demand for Eurasian goods evaporate, thus hurting the European BRI branch.
Lavrov continues with the Russian POV, which is understandable but IMO is masking what the Outlaw US Empire is doing to Europe and to a much lesser degree in Asia where its attempt to form the Quad has failed. IMO, it’s likely that those running the Empire see Asia as a nut too big to crack given the very high level of solidarity and interconnectivity in the Emerging Bloc. Plus there’s the military superiority of Russia and China it can’t match–that’s why it’s so highly invested in biowar labs.
But what about Latin America where most of the people hate the Yankees? The situation there merits very close watching and lots of Eurasian help to remain independent of the Empire. IMO, that’s where China needs to play the leading role as too many nations there remain too weak to resist the Empire’s projection of power, so they need anti-ship and air defense systems in quantity soon.
IMO, Russia and China must sit down and look intently at the Big Picture. And I haven’t even mentioned Africa yet.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 24 2022 0:19 utc | 234

Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 23 2022 23:48 utc | 220
“U.S.A: Stimules checks for gas.”
So “helicopter money” is the solution 😀 if I remember correctly a similar idea was promoted and the term coined back in the housing crisis by Ben Bernanke. But then, for every red blooded american this is socialism, if not communism… would be poison for the holy market. Same idea has been promoted here in Germany by the “liberal” party recently btw, only just for car owners, cause, you know, we build a lot of cars…
“EU Considers $100 Billion Energy Relief Package For Companies”
This is much more like it, in a neoliberal society, socialism is meant only for the rich. Just like back then, when the housing crisis became the banking crisis, suddenly billions of tax payers money appeared out of nowhere to spend on “system critical financial institutions”. For the greater good and the benefit of everyone.

Posted by: xototox | Mar 24 2022 0:23 utc | 235

@ Sternberg | Mar 24 2022 0:11 utc | 231 with the clear and concise description of the current financial backroom hierarchy.
Thank you for that and I hope others will read it so they can stop asking ignorant questions.
Yes, Russia could set up a relationship with China to then clear through the BIS and something like that will eventually have to be designed/negotiated and built to interface between the West and this new Reserve Currency grouping of nations we are reading tidbits about.
Empire is not going to like any challenge to their domination but if they can keep the 20%, or whatever global percentage it is, continually enthralled with their God of Mammon approach to social organization, they will live on to poison our species with their anti-humanistic ways.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 24 2022 0:27 utc | 236

psychoH @ 89 said;”Which of the members of the God of Mammon cult own it is not of interest to me. I want it replaced by a public utility with transparency as should every other human meatsack with morals.”
Yep, I have the same dream. All banking should be public…

Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 24 2022 0:28 utc | 237

@Sternberg #231
There is no need to transfer money between ECB and CBR. European natural gas importers can open ruble-denominated accounts at Russian banks and buy rubles from companies that sell goods or services to Russia. See my comment #226.

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2022 0:33 utc | 238

Re: Patroklos’s fine post about end-stage capitalism and war

The elites in the west do have a choice in the manner. They can accept defeat and realize that the world their children will grow up in will not be the silver spoon-fed land of leisure but rather grueling decades of work, toil, purging, and reorganization to make it feasible.
Will they opt for such a world for their children?
No, they will not. That is how fucked up the situation is that humanity faces the threat of a nuke war because elites hate a life of toil by that much.
If they had throats for throttling nearby, we could seize them. But they are not because these elites have no nation.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 24 2022 0:35 utc | 239

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 23 2022 22:06 utc | 185
Ukraine compares itself to Nazi Germany
The Ukrainian parliament equated its own struggles with those of the Third Reich
https://www.rt.com/russia/552585-ukraine-nazi-germany-post/

Ukraine’s parliament on Wednesday appealed again to the West to impose a “no-fly zone” over the country. However, the parliament raised eyebrows online by comparing the devastation suffered by its cities to that suffered by Nazi Germany during Allied bombing raids. The bizarre choice of comparison is the latest Nazi-related statement to come out of Kiev.
An image posted to Twitter by Ukraine’s ‘Verkhovna Rada’ (Parliament) portrays a bombed out building in Hamburg in 1943 alongside similar damage to the Ukrainian city of Kharkov in 2022.
The text above the image reads “When the Sky is Open,” and a message in English demands that the West “#CloseTheSky over Ukraine.”
“Close The Sky” is a reference to the possibility of a NATO-imposed ‘no-fly zone’ over Ukraine, a step Kiev has demanded but leaders in Washington and Brussels have thus far refused to take. It would involve NATO committing to shooting down Russian aircraft over Ukraine, a step that would bring the alliance into open war with Russia and, in the words of US President Joe Biden, lead to “a third world war.”
Bizarrely, the image shared by the parliament asks the same allies that bombed Hamburg in 1943 to fight on Ukraine’s behalf today. The Rada did not explain why it chose to compare Kharkov with Hamburg, especially considering the fact that Kharkov itself was bombed by Germany during the Second World War, which would have made for a comparison that wouldn’t involve comparing Ukraine with Nazi Germany.
The analogy drew some puzzled comments online. “You aren’t supposed to compare yourselves to Nazis in public,” one commenter joked. “Man, they really don’t know what optics are,” another quipped.

There’s more but that’s the important part.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 0:35 utc | 240

fyi – read one twitter thread today, this one:
Arnaud Bertrand @RnaudBertrand
Tweets mostly about China, a country in which I live and that I love.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1506116621500403725
We’re at a truly defining moment in history, undoubtedly the most important in decades.
The U.S. positions the choice we face as “authoritarianism vs democracy” but it actually is “unilateralism vs multilateralism”.
Here is why
I believe the U.S. is trying to effectively seal off Russia and China from the rest of the world, or at the very least from the West, in order to preserve the current “US-led world order”.
This is obvious when it comes to Russia since the sealing-off has been done already.
When it comes to China the best proof of the “sealing off” objective is the enormous efforts currently made by the U.S. to show China as a co-belligerant together with Russia in the current war in Ukraine.
This Thursday there’s a EU + NATO summit where EU leaders will be joined by Biden and Japan’s Kishida.
This article describes the meeting’s content: https://scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3171302/ukraine-year-after-sanctions-eu-china-ties-face-new-defining
Basically the US trying to get buy-in in their efforts to paint China as Russia’s “accomplice”.
If China is defined as an accomplice in Russia’s war, this would be a very strong justification – a casus belli – to make them suffer similar sanctions as Russia, i.e. be sealed off as well.
The sealing off would certainly not be extensive as Russia’s but the direction is clear.
It doesn’t matter that this “China provides Russia with military support” story is most likely largely untrue
Most of what the U.S. accuses China of is largely untrue anyway, it’s never stopped them from getting buy-in from Western “allies” before…
First of all, it most likely isn’t true. It just doesn’t pass the sniff test.
The biggest reason being that Russia itself has gigantic weapon manufacturing capabilities: it exports over 5 times more weapons abroad than China!
But this couldn’t be more consequential for our collective future as a planet.
What’s being decided by a small group, right now behind close doors, is the re-emergence of cold-war type blocs.
Do we want this? Do we want to be drawn in a new cold-war so as to preserve the “US-led world order”?
This is presented as “democracy vs authoritarianism” but, hypocritically, the people on the “democracy” side don’t seem to have a say in this amazingly consequential decision…

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 24 2022 0:36 utc | 241

I had to laugh reading Reuters propaganda piece on gas for rubles.
“European nations and the United States have imposed heavy sanctions on Russia since Moscow sent troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24. But Europe depends heavily on Russian gas for heating and power generation, and the European Union is split on whether to sanction Russia’s energy sector.
Putin’s message was clear: If you want our gas, buy our currency. It remained unclear whether Russia has the power to unilaterally change existing contracts agreed upon in euros.
………
Russia holds the gas tap fuckwits. Ninety nine out of a hundred people will read that shit and believe it.
And the squealing begins
“German Economy Minister Robert Habeck called Putin’s demand a breach of contract and other buyers of Russian gas echoed the point.
“This would constitute a breach to payment rules included in the current contracts,” said a senior Polish government source, adding Poland has no intention of signing new contracts with Gazprom after their existing deal expires at the end of this year.”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 24 2022 0:38 utc | 242

I only read the first page of comments but it seems like there is a lot of overthinking of the requirement to pay in rubles. It’s very simple.
The only source of rubles is the Russian Central Bank. Once the supply of rubles outside Russia is exhausted, which it will be if Europe wants gas, there are no more to be had without coming to Russia. Russia will trade rubles only for things it wants: commodities (gold), services, manufactured goods, whatever – they choose what they buy. They aren’t going to exchange rubles for USD or Euro – that’s precisely the point.
This is how it beats the sanctions. You want Russian gas, Russia will sell it to you but only for things it wants. It creates a demand for rubles that can only be filled by trading real goods for rubles. The rising exchange rate of rubles a side effect of the increased demand for rubles.

Posted by: ranedial | Mar 24 2022 0:42 utc | 243

Posted by: james | Mar 23 2022 21:20 utc | 168

so much of finance is fictitious…. it is like walking into a house of mirrors.. this is exactly the way those controlling the financial system want it too… it is one giant ponzi scheme run by a bunch of mafioso types as i see it… they can say whatever they want.. that is how i see the financial system in the world at present… everyone has typically put their faith in the us$ round the globe.. it has given the usa the privilege running a printing press non stop.. at some point it does need to stop… i think many see the set up here, but don’t know how to exit and find a better alternative… if on the other hand a country was to control the amount in existence, that could change the situation… less availability means more demand generally…

I will assure everyone here that any “new” economic system will also be based on growth, in which case it too is destined to implode. I hate to trash that word, but “growth” needs to be removed from any discussion about any new economic system if we’re serious about an actual improvement (otherwise it’s merely a reshuffling of the deck chairs).

Posted by: Seer | Mar 24 2022 0:43 utc | 244

ranedial | Mar 24 2022 0:42 utc | 242
I think you’re correct on this.

Posted by: spudski | Mar 24 2022 0:45 utc | 245

Re Canadian Virtue Signalling
Th Ottawa Citizen is reporting the Canadian Defense Department is conducting a review of its foreign military training after a Ukrainian Jewish group complained over the fact Canada was knowingly training Nazis.
This fact was documented in a prior Ottawa Citizen story which described how Canadian dignitaries willingly had their pictures taken with Azov members in full Nazi regalia but then sought to suppress public knowledge of this association. Azov very helpfully published the imagery the Canadian delegation sought to conceal.

In September 2019 Latvian Minister of Defence Artis Pabriks publicly praised members of the Latvian SS who fought for the Nazis, pointing out they are “the pride of the Latvian people and of the state” and Latvia would not “allow anyone to discredit their memory.”
Harjit Sajjan, (the Canadian defence minister) a close friend of Pabriks, refused to condemn the glorification of the SS unit and Canadian generals remained silent.

SOURCE:
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/allegations-of-canadian-troops-training-neo-nazis-and-war-criminals-sparks-military-review/wcm/de412654-e732-4e39-a983-ec727ffb6964/amp/
During the Trucker protest in Ottawa a single Nazi flag was exhibited resulting in Trudeau accusing 2 Jewish members of the opposition party of being Nazi supporters. When the two sought an apology from Trudeau, Trudeau simply walked out of Parliament. It is now documented that Canadian tax dollars have played a role in the atrocities in Ukraine.

Posted by: Sushi | Mar 24 2022 0:53 utc | 246

Re Canadian Virtue Signalling Part II
Trudeau acts to discredit the Ottawa Treaty on landmines. What else can one expect of Mr Blackface and his WEF “leadership” diploma?

Let’s recall that in 1997, Ukraine signed the Convention on the Prohibition of Anti-personnel Mines, which it ratified in 2005. The Ottawa Treaty prohibits the use, stockpiling, production and transfer of anti-personnel mines. The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties unequivocally obliges the signatory State to refrain from actions that run counter to the objectives that such a document is designed to solve. In fact, the armed formations of Ukraine, regularly using anti-personnel mines on the territory of Donbass, violate international law and the obligations assumed by the state they serve.
In November 2008, in a report for the Landmine Monitor, Ukraine claimed to have destroyed a stockpile of anti-personnel mines in the amount of 238,010 units. However, judging by the practical training conducted with Estonian and Finnish military servicemembers in 2019, these mines, as well as the PCM complexes for remote mining with KPOM-3 cassettes, are available in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and are actively used in the combat situation. The fact that there is a whole arsenal of unconventional weapons on the balance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in spite of the Treaty signed by Kiev, was confirmed by the international commission of NATO for logistics and maintenance. These include anti-personnel mines PFM-1 “Lepestok” (79,412 mines), POM-2 “Otyok” (25,688 mines), aviation blocks for dumping PFM-1 (72 720 blocks), cluster rocket artillery shells 9 M27K3 “Incubator” (10,233 shells), cluster anti-tank mines KPTM-3 (30,945 mines), artillery ammunition PTM-1G (650 shells).

SOURCE:
https://journal-neo.org/2022/03/22/ukrainian-nazis-have-created-a-no-sailing-zone-on-the-black-sea/

Posted by: Sushi | Mar 24 2022 1:06 utc | 247

What the hell is going on with the site? I’ve tried twice to post a response to Malenkov about the RT article he was asking about and neither were accepted.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:07 utc | 248

@ 135&136; DITTO!!!

Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 24 2022 1:07 utc | 249

Latest Russian MoD briefings…
Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

Units of the Russian Armed Forces continue to destroy units of the 54th Separate Mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Currently, they are fighting for the capture of Novomikhailovka.
The grouping of troops of the Donetsk People’s Republic, having completed clearing of Verkhnetoretskoe from nationalists, continued to pursue the retreating units of 25th Airborne Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and took control of Novobakhmutovka railway station. During the night, 3 tanks, 2 infantry fighting vehicles and 6 all-terrain vehicles were destroyed in this area.
On the evening of March 22, high-precision long-range sea-based weapons struck an arms depot in Orzhev, 14 kilometers northwest of Rovno city. As a result of the strike, a large depot of weapons and military equipment of the Ukrainian troops, including those received from Western countries, was destroyed.
Operational-tactical, army aviation and missile troops hit 97 military assets of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Among them: 2 launchers and 1 transport-loading vehicle of the Tochka-U tactical missile system in an industrial zone on the northern outskirts of Kiev, 8 anti-aircraft missile systems, including: 6 Buk-M1, 1 S-300 and 1 Osa combat vehicle, 10 command posts, 8 field artillery guns, as well as 3 artillery reconnaissance stations of NATO manufacture.
The Russian air defence means shot down 1 Su-24 near Izyum city, 16 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in the air, including 3 Bayraktar TB-2 near Rozhin, Karashev and Maxim Gorky.
The group of “night hunters” consisting of Ka-52 and Mi-28n helicopters destroyed 8 tanks, 5 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 9 vehicles and towing trucks, 3 permanent fire position and 7 field artillery and mortars during night strikes.
In total, 184 aircraft and helicopters of the Ukrainian Air Force, 246 unmanned aerial vehicles, 189 anti-aircraft missile systems, 1,558 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 156 multiple launch rocket systems, 624 field artillery and mortars, as well as 1,354 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.
#Russia #Ukraine #Briefing
@mod_russia_en
Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry
Units of the Russian Armed Forces have advanced another 2 kilometers during the day and are fighting against units of the 54th Separate Mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the southern and southeastern outskirts of Novomikhailovka.
The grouping of troops of the Donetsk People’s Republic inflicts fire damage to units of the 25th Airborne Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and is fighting for the capture of Kamenka and Novobakhmutovka.
Operational-tactical and army aviation hit 86 military assets of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Among them: 6 command posts, 2 multiple launch rocket systems, 8 field artillery guns, 3 ammunition depots, 49 areas of concentration of equipment and military hardware of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Russian Air Defence means shot down 9 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Izyum, Kiev, Sumy, Kharkov, Chernigov.
In total, 255 unmanned aerial vehicles, 189 anti-aircraft missile systems, 1,564 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 158 multiple launch rocket systems, 612 field artillery and mortars, as well as 1,367 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.
#Russia #Ukraine #Briefing
@mod_russia_en

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:09 utc | 250

https://news.yahoo.com/u-sets-red-lines-china-184901651.html
White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan told reporters that G7 countries would soon announce a unified response to make sure Russia cannot evade Western sanctions imposed over its invasion of Ukraine with the help of China or any other country.
Speaking aboard Air Force One en route to Brussels where President Joe Biden will attend an emergency NATO summit, Sullivan said, “That’s not specifically about China, but it will apply to every significant economy and the decisions that any of those economies take to try, in an intentional and active way, to undermine or weaken the sanctions that we put in place.”
He said the U.S. government has conveyed this message to China and that, “We expect similar communication by European Union and individual European countries.”

Exceptionalism and rules based order at its finest.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 24 2022 1:09 utc | 251

Posted by: Sushi | Mar 24 2022 0:53 utc | 245
It’s a goddam scandal, The article you link says

Canada’s training mission to Iraq has also faced problems. Earlier this year this newspaper revealed that Canadian soldiers complained in 2018 to their commanders that the Iraqi troops they were training were war criminals who liked to show videos of their atrocities, including executing prisoners and raping a woman to death.
But, after reporting their concerns to the Canadian military leadership, the soldiers were told to continue the training and avoid watching the videos the Iraqis wanted to share with them, according to Canadian Forces documents.

Considering 156 Canadian POWs specifically were murdered by the 12th Waffen-SS Dvision ‘Hitler Jugend’ in the fighting after D-Day (the so-called ‘Normandy Massacres’), the betrayal is beyond scandalous. If I were a relative of any one of those 156 men, and that would amount to many thousands in Canada today, I would be screaming.
The perfidiousness of these scum beggars belief.

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 24 2022 1:11 utc | 252

b, it appears that any post I make which references a certain Russia Today web site can NOT be posted. Can you please fix that?

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:17 utc | 253

Helmer’s latest…
SIMPLETON’S PRIMER ON THE LONG WAR THE US AIMS TO WAGE AGAINST RUSSIA
http://johnhelmer.net/simpletons-primer-on-the-long-war-the-us-aims-to-wage-against-russia/

In the history of the world wars, or the last century of wars in Europe, or the wars the US has waged since 1945, it has never happened that what the President of the US says, and what the head of the front-line country which the US is fighting to defend says, have mattered less than what Joseph Biden and Vladimir Zelensky say now.
The reason is that no US president running a war has ever been as incapacitated in command and control as Biden, nor as impotent among his own officials as Zelensky. Rule by crock and rule by stooge aren’t rule at all.
US public opinion polls measuring Biden’s job approval rating demonstrate that most American voters already realize this. The growing spread between American voters’ disapproval and approval of Biden’s performance since the Russian operation began on February 24 indicates also that this understanding is growing.
But this isn’t anti-war sentiment, let alone an American stop-the-war movement. At present US officials headed by Secretary of State Antony Blinken aim to fight the war to the capitulation or destruction of Russia; they will fight to the last Ukrainian to achieve this goal; they will negotiate no end-of-war terms; they are not influenced or constrained by American public opinion or votes. Not yet.
Zelensky has declared he is in favour of negotiations to end the war; he has declared he is opposed to the terms which President Vladimir Putin and the Russian leadership have made clear, long before the war began and ever since, were the casus belli, the objectives for which they are fighting. The reason Zelensky regularly contradicts himself is that his power – his survival in office – depends on the Galician faction headquartered around Lvov, whose only occupation is permanent warfighting, and whose only income flows from the US and the NATO alliance. They are as committed as Blinken to operating the Ukraine as a gun platform targeted at Russia; the Galicians will destroy all of eastern Ukraine as they withdraw, in order to keep firing. The Germans thought and did as much on the same battlefields eighty years ago.
Biden, Blinken, Zelensky, and the Galicians also hate Russians with more racial virulence than has ever been shown by Americans towards a European enemy in the history of American wars.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:21 utc | 254

From Wargonzo via Donbass Insider Telegram channel…

70% of Mariupol under the control of the DPR and the Russian Federation
So, about 70% of residential development is already under the control of the troops of the DPR and the Russian Federation. We take out the industrial zones – where both our units and groups of neo-Nazis are located.
It must be understood that communication with individual assault detachments is extremely unstable, and some streets change hands more than once a day. In addition, the situation is changing rapidly.
However, the general outline of the situation in Mariupol looks exactly like this. Our Marines are doing a heroic job with the assistance of the Somali Battalion. Support for mopping up – from the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the DPR, special forces of the MGB and the 1st battalion of the special forces of the NM of the DPR, the 9th regiment, the 107th battalion of the mob reserve, as well as fighters from the Chechen Republic.
Just a little bit left to win!
🔗 Wargonzo

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:25 utc | 255

@ Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:17 utc | 252 who wrote

b, it appears that any post I make which references a certain Russia Today web site can NOT be posted. Can you please fix that?

It has been my experience that the ability to link to different web sites comes and goes a bit so asking b to fix it may be asking a bit much…..pull back and try and convey your information differently like you did
I am sensitive about us barflies asking for any more than that this place exist. Be happy with what you get and learn to innovate when the MoA bar changes wallpaper all of a sudden….and this is not just to RSH
Thanks for your reporting on Ukraine.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 24 2022 1:27 utc | 256

From Intel Slava Z forwarded by Donbass Insider Telegram channel… Preparations for Russia-Belarus operation, I wonder?
Belarus closes Ukrainian consulate in Brest and kicks out diplomats
Only five employees of the Ukrainian diplomatic mission will remain in Belarus, all the rest must leave the country within 72 hourse

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:28 utc | 257

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 24 2022 1:27 utc | 255
Well, all right. I’ll remove any reference to the actual RT links and just quote the content. Sigh…

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:29 utc | 258

Posted by: gottlieb | Mar 23 2022 15:15 utc | 18
Nice simile. Well done.
Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 23 2022 15:58 utc | 44
As I like to say, “That Ain’t Gonna Happen.” Look at Gottlieb’s post at 18. This is how the US works.
Posted by: c1ue | Mar 23 2022 18:07 utc | 104
“It is like being in a boxing match where the opponent starts punching himself.
3 Stooges but as sovereign powers…”
LOL And people wonder why I think humans suck. Exhibit A, our dear leaders – all of whom were put in power by their electorates.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 23 2022 18:13 utc | 106
Posted by: Alpi | Mar 23 2022 18:31 utc | 113
Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 23 2022 19:34 utc | 134

This is indeed concerning. Which is why I recommended Russia send an armored column down the Polish border to forestall that move, close the Polish border so no more weapons and mercenaries entering Ukraine, and as a bonus seize Lvov to start the neo-Nazi cleansing sooner.
I passed this by Andrei Martyanov, and while his personal opinion was that such a move was not worth the life of a Russian soldier, he admitted he didn’t know what Putin and his team would do.
There is an interesing article over at The Saker by Rotislav Ishchenko on precisely this issue of Poland involving itself in Ukraine.

I do not think that Poles really want a part of the territory of Ukraine, because it is to get somewhere between 10-15 million Bandera for 35 million Poles. This is a lot. This is not the 2 million that Poland digested after the Great Patriotic War.
This can destabilize Poland very much, because such a minority makes up a third of the entire population, which is absolutely hostile to this population. Bandera massacred the Poles, and the Poles hate Bandera. And when these two cultures collide on the same territory in a non-abstract way, such as, everyone lives in their own country and both hate Russia; – and when they collide on the same territory it turns out that they also hate each other, – for Poland it will not be like a gift.
It is important for the Poles to maintain a Ukrainian buffer between themselves and Russia. Therefore, theoretically, by entering western Ukraine, they can try to preserve Ukrainian statehood at least in three, four, at least five regions, and this Ukrainian statehood will be due to the demarcation line, not making peace with Russia, but concluding a truce on the principle of the Minsk agreements. They will, because of the line of demarcation, all the time claim the entire territory of Ukraine, the Crimea, the Donbass and even the Kuban and Voronezh.
And Russia will always have this problem, a splinter sticking out in the boot, which will not allow much concentration against Poland.
Therefore, the Poles are making serious enough efforts to preserve Ukrainian statehood, in one form or another. Another thing is that they are also afraid, because you don’t understand that if they go out alone on their own initiative without any support, they will simply be kicked in the neck and thrown back, and this will end the liberation campaign.
But they understand that they cannot rely on the verbal, political support of the United States. That the United States will put pressure on their European allies to provide more help, and so on. And if all this works out, if the Poles know that they are not alone, but at least two or three of them, and that, for example, Germany, France, everyone else was forced to somehow help, for example, to send military equipment, transfer aviation , then they may well afford to venture into western Ukraine.
Ukraine somehow feels insecure in such a position, but the fact is that Russian forces are also unable to stretch indefinitely. You see, we are even dealing with Ukraine step by step. That is, not everything at once, although the configuration of the Ukrainian borders made it possible, given sufficient military resources, to complete the problem, to close the issue in three weeks, and after that to deal only with cleansing.
But our military resources are not unlimited. In order to create an appropriate army, it is necessary to mobilize. which no one wants to do, because we still have a special operation not a war. If Polish resources are connected to these Ukrainian resources, which are now opposing Russia, then the problem of promotion will be even stronger. If other NATO countries are looming behind Poland, then the question arises whether we can grind all these armies that are potentially opposing us with the help of available forces, or we need to either mobilize or resort to nuclear weapons. Especially since any NATO country entering into a conflict is a country of a bloc that has nuclear weapons. In accordance with the Russian military doctrine, we can strike such a bloc with a nuclear strike even first.
As you understand, the issue is very difficult to resolve, and both of these decisions will be extremely disadvantageous, including for Russia. It doesn’t matter who wins later, but this also means big losses, and not only human, but economic, and so on and so forth.

I am still considering this. I think it argues for my position that Russia needs to “capture” all of Ukraine, and not let the western region fall away to its enemies, even if most of the population of western Ukraine are its enemies. I think that can be prevented effectively and further that the internal enemies can be controlled so as both not to be dangerous to the new Ukrainian government nor be easily available to the West as internal threats.
Posted by: Sushi | Mar 23 2022 21:04 utc | 159
“1) Poland will be informed it is free to march into Ukraine and be slaughtered by Mr Kaliber and Ms Zircon and neither the US or any other member of NATO will rush into the same charnel house.”
Correct about that latter point. Martyanov just mentioned that if Poland unilaterally invades Ukraine, or is “invited” by Zelensky, it can not trigger NATO Article V.
This is why I again recommend Russia send an armored column down from Belarus to forestall that situation. Couple with the probability that Russia will hit Poland as its forces mass on the border, that should make Poland think twice.
Posted by: ptb | Mar 23 2022 20:19 utc | 143
“As for what Poland or NATO might do… looks like speculation by the author.”
Obviously, because it hasn’t happened yet. Nonetheless, Andrei Martyanov also believes it is possible. See his blog on that.
Also, so does Lavrov. See this:
From RT (I cannot post the link):
Russia warns of potential trigger for war with NATO

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov warned, on Wednesday, that if NATO agrees with a Polish proposal to deploy peacekeepers to Ukraine, the move could trigger a military conflict between the US-led bloc and Moscow.
Lavrov also claimed that Warsaw may desire to establish a foothold in the large western Ukrainian city of Lvov and remain there after the conflict is over. “Why not, they had such thoughts, and not only thoughts, this occurred in the past,” he said. The diplomat also warned the Baltic states against sending their “little battalions” to fight Russian troops in Ukraine.
“Our Polish colleagues have already stated that there will be a NATO summit now, and peacekeepers should be deployed. I hope they understand what is at stake. This will be a direct clash between the Russian and NATO armed forces, which everyone not only wanted to avoid but said that it should never take place in principle,” he outlined.
Earlier last week, the prime ministers of Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovenia reportedly traveled to Kiev to meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Afterwards, Polish Deputy Prime Minister Jarosław Kaczynski declared that NATO should deploy a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine while the EU should grant Kiev official candidate status. “I believe that a NATO peacekeeping mission is needed, a mission that can defend itself and that will operate in Ukraine,” said Kaczynski.

And then there’s this (also from RT):
Poland to expel 45 Russian diplomats
The country’s domestic security agency accused them of being spies
Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 23 2022 21:12 utc | 163
Interesting analysis. I agree that there are smart and immoral people behind the dumb and immoral people in the front. I’m generally understanding of the former – even if I regard them as enemies as much as the latter people. Smart people deal with the world as it is, not as they want it to be. This is why they’re rich and successful and the rest of us are poor and unsuccessful. I’m trying to learn to think like them but at the same time act against them.
Not that I give a rat’s ass what Joe Rogan thinks, but… Also from RT…
Joe Rogan calls out U-turn on Ukraine coverage
The nation was perceived as the “most corrupt country in Europe” before Russia’s attack, the podcaster noted
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 23 2022 23:26 utc | 210
Nice recap of Hudson’s views. I tend to agree with all of them. Have you seen this?
Renegade interviews Michael Hudson: Sanctions, the blowback
http://thesaker.is/renegade-interviews-michael-hudson-sanctions-the-blowback/

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:34 utc | 259

I linked to that on Monday when it first aired.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 24 2022 1:36 utc | 260

@ Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:21 utc | 253 with the Helmer latest quote
I disagree at the end where he claims it is all about hatred for Biden. Given the little bit I am reading about him and his son’d dealings in Ukraine, I think fear is a big motivator.
Hopefully the folks behind the scenes are willing to provide some sort of unwind protection for the God of Mammon cult and their top end puppets to take away their survival fear that might have them nuking us all out of horror about the curtain going away.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 24 2022 1:37 utc | 261

As expected by Martyanov and others…
From Intel Slava Z via Donbass Insider Telegram channel…

Turov announced the tribunal for crimes in Ukraine
State Duma deputy Artyom Turov made a statement in which he stated the need to create a military tribunal that would investigate cases of using civilians as a “human shield”.
The deputy himself was able to personally hear about examples of the use of such tactics by neo-Nazis from people who are now being evacuated from Mariupol. Of course, it is assumed that a specially created commission will also collect materials on other war crimes of the Kiev regime.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:37 utc | 262

This should give future mercenaries pause (assuming it’s not a psychological warfare tactic)…
From Donbass Insider Telegram channel…

Today, in Maryinka, the People’s Militia of the DPR found the mutilated corpses of foreign mercenaries who fought in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The Ukrainian punishers mutilated the dead during the retreat in order to hide the facts of mercenarism in their army.
“Corpses were found in the basement of the house, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine had fortified points. It is a common practice to finish off and burn the faces and bodies of mercenaries so that they are not identified. During the eight years of the war, we often encountered such facts.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:42 utc | 263

OT A seriously disturbing article about various US ‘firms’ involvement in the information war posted by MintPress:
article

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 24 2022 1:42 utc | 264

Scholz and Macron will inform Biden of their plans to exit NATO. These plans will be put into effect should Biden fail to deliver they outcomes they have described.
Posted by: Sushi | Mar 23 2022 21:04 utc | 159
It’s clearly the opposite. Europe has bowed down in utter submission to the US hegemon.

Posted by: Jake the Snake | Mar 24 2022 1:50 utc | 265

Comment by Maria Zakharova on Ukraine’s efforts to recruit mercenaries and “cyber-mercenaries”… I have to say, it’s disheartening to see how western hackers have fallen for the narrative. Normally one would hope they would see through western government BS as they have on occasion in the past in other domains.

#Opinion by Maria Zakharova:
Hoping to make use of the surprise wave of Ukrainophilia in the countries of the “progressive” West, the Kiev regime is churning out numerous “mobilisation” initiatives.
It has flown off the handle, because aggressive pacifists in Washington, Brussels and other “peace-loving” NATO capitals have stopped reacting to their Ukrainian wards’ shenanigans, even despite public discontent in their own countries.
All is grist that comes to Kiev’s mill. Its embassies are using their information resources to recruit volunteers for a “foreign legion,” while the authorities back home issue weapons to anyone willing to take them. They have released and armed criminals. They are recruiting students and sending them to fight miliary professionals after a three-day intensive training course. And now they have launched a virtual mobilisation, probably because the fake news resources of their psychological operations centres have been frayed.
The other day, Ukrainian Deputy Minister of Digital Transformation Alexander Bornyakov announced the creation of an international IT Army of Ukraine.
The recruiting method is the same as in the case of the “legion” of foreign volunteers. This digital unit is ready to accept hackers, cybercriminals and other cyber-rabble from all over the world. Unlike the dogs of war in the material world, these “cyber warriors” don’t need to travel thousands of kilometres to risk their lives during the demilitarisation of Ukraine. Today they can sit in their warm chairs and do for money what they would have been sent to prison for yesterday.
Kiev has no scruples about disclosing the criminal goal of its mobbing campaign: to target the socially significant digital infrastructure associated with Russia, without any exceptions for the civilian sector or vital facilities. In other words, the targets are hospitals, maternity wards and nuclear power stations. Kiev also calls for hacking the accounts of major Russian companies. In plain English, Kiev has given its blessing to future cyber warriors for cyberterrorism.
Barely three days after Kiev’s plans for an IT army were announced, Rosneft subsidiaries in Germany suffered the largest hacking attack since the beginning of the special operation in Ukraine. Pro-Ukrainian cyber warriors penetrated the corporate network, stole a large amount of data and destroyed 20GB of data to cover up their tracks.
This created major risks for Rosneft’s operations and the functioning of local oil refineries, including the one in Schwedt, which supplies fuel to the majority of filling stations in Eastern Germany. In light of the rising prices of gasoline and diesel fuel, the German authorities instructed the law enforcement bodies to investigate the attack despite the hackers’ “noble mission.”
This is quite revealing. The collective West keeps stepping on the same rake again and again. While using the “the end justifies the means” principle (or rather anti-principle) in their political games, the liberal democracies opted for recruiting the “forces of darkness,” such as Nazis in Ukraine or Islamic radicals in the Middle East, which have turned their weapons against their employers. By giving the Kiev regime a free hand to release more genies from the lamp, its patrons should remember that they will have to deal with the monsters themselves very soon. I doubt that the IT Army of 300,000 volunteer hackers (the figure was mentioned in Kiev) will dissolve itself and will stop its intrinsically, not to mention legally criminal activities. They will most likely turn their weapons against Western countries.
This is how a cyber-ISIS is being created.
“>https://t.me/MariaVladimirovnaZakharova/2206

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 1:51 utc | 266

What we have here is competing forms of fascism that serves the interests of the global elites. US and EU and control the global financial structure. This will maintain for a very long time because the global elites, including the Russians and Chinese elites desire continuity and safety of their wealth above all else. Barflies dont understand this at all.
All the competitors in this globalist system, including Russia and China are decadent societies. All are jockeying for relative advantages within the one system. This is not a civilization war. It is an intramural war.
The system is designed for orderly trade beget through orderly political relations. Putin has overturned the order, however has done so foolishly and he has nothing to gain from his folly. Putin has already lost. He will lose even if he wins the battle for Ukraine.
Sorry to those who bought the Russian propaganda messages hook line and sinker and made fools of themselves in the process. Lucky for you, social media is a meaningless game and there are few or no consequences for playing this game in the west. You are perfectly allowed to be haters as long as you do nothing to upset the status quo. And trust me, participation in social media maintains the status quo.. You gain or lose nothing because you live in the West. Have a nice day.

Posted by: Useless meat beater | Mar 24 2022 1:57 utc | 267

If one sees the elected or appointed officials as serving their country/public, understanding their behavior is generally confounding as it seems irrational given that assumption. If one can accept the they are serving themselves and people of money and influence (and are not motivated by the interests of thier supposed clients), the behavior will make more sense. It seems that we have a great difficulty accepting things as we find them rather than making them fit our preferred world view. Its a zen thing, I think. Also something we all learned in high school physics – when you are getting an impossible answer, first check your assumptions.

Posted by: jared | Mar 24 2022 2:03 utc | 268

@250 Peter AU1
Jake Sullivan’s message anticipating next batch of secondary sanctions
“Attention all allies: prepare to recieve golf club to the nuts”
For the glory of the empire, naturally

Posted by: ptb | Mar 24 2022 2:04 utc | 269

@ Useless meat beater | Mar 24 2022 1:57 utc | 265 who wrote

All the competitors in this globalist system, including Russia and China are decadent societies. All are jockeying for relative advantages within the one system. This is not a civilization war. It is an intramural war.

I left Almost nakedcapitalism because of TINA folks like you. I suspect you would find that venue more to your liking.
I write here on a regular basis that humanity is in civilization war about public/private finance and I say the facts about China progress over the past 50+ years make your claim of oligarch control in China laughable.
Take your TINA BS over to Yves Smith and tell her my prediction about a change in Reserve Currency is only going to be a few years off, it looks like.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 24 2022 2:07 utc | 270

“Europe has bowed down in utter submission to the US hegemon.”
Jake the Snak@264
Bowing down in submission to the Hegemon is the very least that vassals can do.
Actually submitting, though, when the Hegemon has got back onto Hegemon One and gone home is another matter.
I expect Macron to surprise President Hegemon soon after he gets back on to his hind legs and dusts the dirt off his knees. To begin with there is an election coming up in France.

Posted by: bevin | Mar 24 2022 2:08 utc | 271

Psychohistorian
Yes you repeat the same slogans over and over and over. No country has more complete oligarchical control than China. However, this is not a civilizational war at all. It is a capitalist war for control of the one financial system that facilitated Chinese progress.
I get what you are saying however it is wrong to view this battle as an epochal event of civilizational upheavel. This is the epochal battle of the capitalist imperialist age starting from roughly the 1750s to current and the fight is between the originators (Western Europe/US/Japan et al) and the 20th century usurpers (Russia/China et al) within this system.

Posted by: Useless meat beater | Mar 24 2022 2:19 utc | 272

Yesterdays thread was cathartic for me. I don’t recall the poster who initially expressed the angst that I too feel so deeply right now. It is nice to know that I am not the only enlightened person in the west, however meaningless and futile that might be.
The world has always been insane, but lately it is full on overdrive nuts.
The angst I have been feeling lately is at times overwhelming, nobody around me understands or anticipates what is coming down the pike.
Look at what our leaders have done to us during the very prosperous last 100 years. What do they have in mind for us when times get hard?
It’s not like I didn’t see this coming, I just didn’t see it coming this fast. I thought I’d mostly miss the really fun part. Look’s like I was wrong.
I can’t even think of a viable survival strategy in this environment.
Run when you can, fight when you have to, and hope that your karma is on the positive side of the scale.
Fare thee well my friends.

Posted by: David F | Mar 24 2022 2:21 utc | 273

“In 21 days of the war, Russian troops [have] already killed 100 Ukrainian children,”
— Ukrainian Vice Prime Minister Mykhailo Federov.
“It was worth it”
–Madeline Albright
… Who died yesterday it seems.
Ding. Dong. The Witch is Dead.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 24 2022 2:29 utc | 274

Afaik – the P5 absolutely reiterated they would not use nukes just a few months ago as the situation was obviously going to go hot hot. I expect they will stick to that. Otherwise it’ll poison all of Europe just as Chernobyl showed with its plumes.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 23 2022 18:13 utc | 106
Then again, there were still potential Aegis Ashore sites a tomahawk throw from Moscow “a few months ago”. Now, you see that one over there in Romania? …

Posted by: Laurence | Mar 24 2022 2:35 utc | 275

@ Useless meat beater | Mar 24 2022 2:19 utc | 270 who continues to insist that the China PBOC is not different than the US Fed.
Sorry, but I don’t agree and believe the facts we are seeing from China back me up.
You may be correct that the existing private finance system may not go away but change hands. That said, I think it is more the evolution from the top/bottom barbarism focus of the system that the China PBOC will bring movement away from.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 24 2022 2:35 utc | 276

good riddance to Madeleine Albright
pure war criminality

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 24 2022 2:38 utc | 277

Psychohistorian
Nowhere did I say that the US Fed or the PBOC are not different from each other. I didn’t comment on this at all. Obviously there are some differences however I don’t believe private versus public financing in a capitalist economy matters. The US is more privatized. China is a hybrid of state controlled capitalism and privatization. The US Fed is controlled by Western elites. The PBOC is controlled by Chinese elites. This is what matters.
You are correct that as China gains relative economic power there will be change in the underlying financial structure of globalism.. However, we differ in that you believe this change possesses some intrinsic, moral value to anyone beyond the competing elites within the system.
Who at the end of the day will manage to sustain and grow at our expense regardless of whether this control is denominated in USD, euros or Yuan.

Posted by: Useless meat beater | Mar 24 2022 2:48 utc | 278

The Russian allied forces were giving the Ukrainian forces in Mariupol until midnight (just past) to vacate. Thereafter they willshoot to destroy anything that moves and a lot of stuff that doesnt move – was I think the implication. Taking no prisoners.
I thought they were planning to wait them out, imagine that time is becoming a bigger issue.
The west is working itself up to the point of getting directly involved. Again I think NATO is losing control of the situation – they also serve a higher power. I worry that they will attempt to establish protection of west Ukraine. So far there is only escalation.

Posted by: jared | Mar 24 2022 2:56 utc | 279

More from Andrei Martyanov on the aspect of Poland invading western Ukraine… Check his blog for more.

But Russians have been discussing the possibility of Polish “peace-keeping” (meaning the annexation of what is effectively historic Polish lands) for a while. Ruslan Ostashko altogether states that Biden’s upcoming visit to Poland IS about partition of Ukraine, with Poland moving into the Western Ukraine (in Russian). As I, among many, state non-stop (the latest being yesterday when talking to Piero), there is a feeling around that Kremlin itself still contemplates what to do with Banderland (West Ukraine) because Russia doesn’t want to get those people on her balance and partition of that land is by far not the worst scenario for Russia.
As they say, there is no smoke without fire, and I think the probability of Poland getting in is far from trivial. Also, circulation of such let’s call them, for now, rumors has a significant military aspect behind them, because Polish Armed Forces are by far not the Russian Army and they follow operation Z very attentively calculating required force and I am sure behind closed doors Polish military people are pretty happy seeing reports of annihilation of large VSU forces, but especially those of Neo-Nazi formations, such as Azov “battalion”, who have roots in the Western Ukraine. The more “banderistas” Russians bury, the easier it will be for Polish “peace keepers” to deal with whatever resistance they may encounter in and around Lwow.

I don’t know. If the Poles try to secure western Ukraine, what will be the Poles reaction to its current inhabitants and vice versa? Ishchenko addressed that in his Saker post I quoted above. It seems to me that the whole point of a Polish incursion is as much about “saving the Nazis” as it is about seizing formerly Polish land. Certainly that would be the US view as the US wants to use the western oblasts as a means of continuing its war against a Russia-controlled Ukraine – which is precisely why I think Russia should forestall that by keeping those oblasts inside Ukraine and simply getting rid of the troublemakers by deporting them to Poland.
If Poland wants Nazis, they can have them.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 2:56 utc | 280

@Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 23 2022 23:26 utc | 210
Great summary of the Hudson call.
Europe was already a slow growth economy, now seemingly destined to decline within its abusive relationship with the US. Very much agreed on the response of the US to any attempt by a European country to throw off the shackles.
I really wonder how much of a loss this will be to Russia and China, given that the growth engine of the world is an Asia that is refusing to play ball with the US (the Japan vassal is also in a population decline with a limited position in the next generation industries). The usual bullying is now having the opposite effect to that intended, with countries like India seeming to distance themselves from the US. China is also very deep in an Africa that could also become a growth engine. So the West will watch behind its closed walls as the rest of the world moves on, with the US well on the way to destroying vast tracts of its educational system and social values. The Russian military advantage is critical in limiting the escalation opportunities for the US.
The major issue for Russia and China is to let the air out of the US balloon slowly enough so that the US elites don’t do something really stupid. As Mercouris commented, the US policy makers really do seem to be a bunch of liberal arts majors who know little about war or economics.
An interesting additional negative is the severe problems that the German car manufacturers are having with respect to EVs, being left way behind in their home market and rapidly losing market share in China. With the Chinese moving more and more into the machinery products that are a core of German industry, together with the uncompetitive energy costs, Germany could be in a major crisis relatively soon.

Posted by: Roger | Mar 24 2022 2:56 utc | 281

Posted by: jared | Mar 24 2022 2:56 utc | 277
According to a post over Donbass Insider, it appears 70% of Mariupol has been cleared – which includes most of the residential areas. That leaves the industrial areas, such as the steel plant where most of the Azov Battalion have retreated to and which is under fire by TOS-1 thermobaric weapons.
So apparently Russia feels that enough of the civilians have been secured that they can move on to heavy artillery and finish off the Ukrainian and neo-Nazi military. If that’s the case, Mariupol will be cleared within the next couple days at most.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 2:58 utc | 282

Posted by: Useless meat beater | Mar 24 2022 2:19 utc | 270
Seems, then, that it’s no more than clinging on to the collapsing paradigm of perpetual growth. Claiming victory on this one is about as silly as it gets. I’m still waiting to see any form of civilization emerge that is capable of uttering a way “forward” w/o using the word “growth.” Not holding my breath…

Posted by: Seer | Mar 24 2022 2:59 utc | 283

..from CNBC. . .possible NATO involvement

Thursday’s meetings in Brussels will bring together the world’s most powerful military alliance for an “extraordinary summit” where leaders will decide on troops, sanctions and other measures designed to aid war-torn Ukraine and to bring Russian President Vladimir Putin to his knees.
. . .The next phase of the war. . .
Three pressing threats loom large over the summit, requiring the alliance to figure out its response and whether military intervention would be needed: mistaken fire on an allied nation, cyber attacks to critical infrastructure of a NATO member state and the possibility of chemical or biological warfare within Ukraine, according to experts. . . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 24 2022 3:01 utc | 284

Blinken has announced about “Russian war crimes”
War Crimes by Russia’s Forces in Ukraine

. . .Last week, I echoed President Biden’s statement, based on the countless accounts and images of destruction and suffering we have all seen, that war crimes had been committed by Putin’s forces in Ukraine. I noted then that the deliberate targeting of civilians is a war crime. I emphasized that Department of State and other U.S. government experts were documenting and assessing potential war crimes in Ukraine.
Today, I can announce that, based on information currently available, the U.S. government assesses that members of Russia’s forces have committed war crimes in Ukraine. . .here

What will the US do aout it? What can they do?

Our assessment is based on a careful review of available information from public and intelligence sources. As with any alleged crime, a court of law with jurisdiction over the crime is ultimately responsible for determining criminal guilt in specific cases. The U.S. government will continue to track reports of war crimes and will share information we gather with allies, partners, and international institutions and organizations, as appropriate. We are committed to pursuing accountability using every tool available, including criminal prosecutions.

That would be the International Criminal Court, of which Russia and US are not members. The ICC has only worked for Africans.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 24 2022 3:12 utc | 285

Why do you think Russia will sell rubles for dollars or euros. EU countries may be forced to sell goods for rubles. Want to feel warm and drive your cars – start trading.

Posted by: Trons | Mar 24 2022 3:17 utc | 286

apologies for this is somewhat off-topic, but can anyone tell me who or what is General SIA that posts on Telegram at generalsvr (can’t include the entire link or post is automatically deleted)
I ask because several “colleagues” are convinced this is an important information source for what is happening in Russia, and some of the “facts” they are excited about include that “Putin is terminally ill with cancer”, that Putin informed Gerasimov “that the allowable losses and thirty and fifty thousand people are nothing compared to the goals that will be achieved after the victory”, and also “Putin ordered Nikolai Patrushev to liquidate Igor Olegovich Kostyukov, Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation”.
I have informed my “colleagues” that this source is probably Ukrainian, but wherever it is coming from, it is bullsh*t. However, if anyone can provide more information on “General SIA”, I would sincerelyl appreciate it. thanks

Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 24 2022 3:22 utc | 287

@ Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 24 2022 2:56 utc | 278
Yeah, Poland seems gung-ho. But what could be their interest?
Of course they are serving master, but thats a pretty tall order. I assume that US mic is getting most of the action. I am sure US will be saying that we are right behind them. Almost like how it started last time.

Posted by: jared | Mar 24 2022 3:30 utc | 288

@ jared 286
Poland seems gung-ho. But what could be their interest?
See my 282, where Poland might act for NATO as a result of an alleged chemical attack, for example.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 24 2022 3:38 utc | 289

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 24 2022 3:12 utc | 283

That would be the International Criminal Court, of which Russia and US are not members. The ICC has only worked for Africans.

I hope the Russians treat the ICC the same way the Americans have, i.e:

U.S. President George Bush today signed into law the American Servicemembers Protection Act of 2002, which is intended to intimidate countries that ratify the treaty for the International Criminal Court (ICC). The new law authorizes the use of military force to liberate any American or citizen of a U.S.-allied country being held by the court, which is located in The Hague. This provision, dubbed the “Hague invasion clause,” has caused a strong reaction from U.S. allies around the world, particularly in the Netherlands.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2002/08/03/us-hague-invasion-act-becomes-law
P.S: Apologies for not responding to you earlier comment on Jen Psaki. I became physically sick when you referred to her as a sharp cookie, and have only now managed to finish cleaning my keyboard.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 24 2022 3:46 utc | 290

@ Seer | Mar 24 2022 2:59 utc | 281
“Growth” is a synonym for cancer.
Logically,
Capitalism requires growth to exist at all, let alone to prosper.
The resources and space of the earth are finite.
Therefore, capitalism cannot continue.

Posted by: Cabe | Mar 24 2022 3:51 utc | 291

Germany goes all out. . .
Mar 4
The German government had to backtrack on Friday on the planned delivery of 2,700 East German-era Strela anti-aircraft missiles [MANPADS] to the Ukrainian army, local media reported. According to a report published by the weekly Der SPIEGEL news magazine, a large proportion of the Strela missiles in the German army depots are not only completely outdated, they are also no longer usable. . .the wooden boxes with the weapons that are now to be delivered to Ukraine have become so moldy that soldiers are only allowed to enter the storage facilities with protective clothing. . .here
Mar 23
BERLIN (Reuters) – German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said on Wednesday that after delays in deliveries, further supplies of Strela missiles, which had been in the inventories of the former Communist East German army, were on the way to Ukraine. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine prompted Germany to stage a historic reversal of its policy of not sending weapons to conflict zones, but the Ukrainian government has been frustrated by delays. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 24 2022 3:53 utc | 292

@Perimetr #285
@generalsvr Telegram Channel is run by Kharkov attorney Viktor Yermolayev, who poses as “ex-SVR General Viktor Mikhaylovich”.

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2022 3:57 utc | 293

by: Don Bacon | Mar 24 2022 3:38 utc | 287
Yesterday Biden announced that he was certain that Russia was going to launch a massive cyberattack against the US. Today we read that one of the scenarios the NATO countries will be discussing, among other scenarios, is how to respond, collectively, to a Russian cyberattack against any individual country in the alliance.
That’s two planted mentions of cyberattacks in two days. This tells me that one scenario the Americans are gaming out is the cyberattack scenario. I can’t imagine that any cyberattack would lead to an actual military response however. But it may prove useful in other ways.

Posted by: WJ | Mar 24 2022 4:00 utc | 294

I am reading about some magic plan that Biden is bringing to Brussels about weaning the EU off Russia energy sources.
The posting I read was more on the Russia sanction part to enforce the EU not getting Russia energy but I am sure, I am sure, I am sure, I am sure that Biden has adequate energy supply for the EU all figured out.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 24 2022 4:02 utc | 295

Below is the latest from the UNSC about Ukraine posted by Xinhuanet

UNITED NATIONS, March 23 (Xinhua) — The 15-member UN Security Council on Wednesday failed to adopt a resolution on the humanitarian situation in Ukraine.
Two members (Russia and China) voted in favor of the text and 13 others abstained. The text submitted by Russia was rejected.
A Security Council resolution needs at least nine votes in favor and no vetoes by Russia, China, Britain, France or the United States to be adopted.
Russia’s draft resolution expresses grave concern about reports of civilian casualties and the deteriorating humanitarian situation in and around Ukraine, including the growing number of internally displaced persons and refugees. The draft text also calls for the protection of civilians, including humanitarian and medical personnel, respect for international law and the protection of civilian objects and critical infrastructure, safe and unhindered evacuation of all civilians, and unhindered humanitarian access in Ukraine.
The council has held three briefings on the humanitarian situation in Ukraine since the conflict erupted, respectively on Feb. 28, March 7 and March 17.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 24 2022 4:09 utc | 296

Albright [worth it] interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE

Posted by: Paul | Mar 24 2022 4:10 utc | 297

Jared
Totally agree with you. I’m not at all extolling the virtues of capitalism. I’m presenting an objective idea that Russia and China are becoming a challenge to imperialist old school hegemony precisely because of their own successes within the same globalist system. China especially has no reason to end this system that greatly benefits their society in order to create a more limited, separate “multipolar” global system subscribed by the Yuan, one where they take on an advanced role of economic hegemon to the denigration of their middle and working classes (Triffin Complex). Not yet anyway. They haven’t developed these classes quite enough to take on this role.

Posted by: Useless meat beater | Mar 24 2022 4:12 utc | 298

The US failed to take direct action in the Russian backed Syria through NATO at a time when that was taken by some as a turning point in the US hegemony in the world stage should they fail to take the action. Comparing the US at that time with the US now, is it even less likely that they will take action in Ukraine to directly confront Russia, or is it more likely they are going to blow things out and do the crazy move?

Posted by: Man | Mar 24 2022 4:18 utc | 299

Sorry my response above was to Seer not Jared

Posted by: Useless meat beater | Mar 24 2022 4:18 utc | 300