Disarming Ukraine Day 15: A Curious Hospital Bombing And 'No-Fly Zone' Pressure
This allegedly happened on March 9 at about 17:30 local time (15:30 UTC) in Mariupol, Ukraine:
Russian forces bombed a maternity and children's hospital in southern Ukraine, authorities there said Wednesday, an attack described by the country's President Volodymyr Zelensky as an "atrocity."
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Mariupol city council posted a video of the devastated hospital in the city and accused Russian forces of dropping several bombs on it from the air.
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Police in the Donetsk region said that according to preliminary information at least 17 people were injured, including mothers and staff, as a result of the attack.Zelensky repeated his call for the NATO military alliance to declare a no-fly zone over Ukraine, as he expressed his outrage at the attack.
This is curious. The three story building is quite large with more than a hundred rooms.
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Pictures show that all windows have been destroyed by a huge pressure wave. If there had been people in the building many would be dead and all would likely have cuts from glass and other debris flying around.
How come that there were allegedly only 17 people injured?
The video taken shortly after the incident (still in daylight) and published by CNN shortly thereafter shows the completely destroyed interior of the hospital but no casualties and no traces of blood on the floors. The still pictures published with the CNN report show only one man in uniform who has some blood on his face. Other persons in the pictures have no visible signs of wounds.
A day before a news piece in the Russian magazine Lenta.ru published on March 8 at 00:01 local time (March 7 21:01 UTC) had mentioned the hospital. (The piece was fetched by archive.org on March 7 22:09 UTC.) It is a report from a Lenta.ru reporter in Donbas who interviewed refugees arriving from Mariupol. Here is a machine translated excerpt:
“They can’t hold out for more than a week” Residents of Mariupol talk about the humanitarian catastrophe that is unfolding before their eyesThe correspondent of Lenta.ru visited the village of Bezymennoye in the south of the DPR, where residents of Mariupol fleeing the hostilities arrive, and talked with those who managed to leave the city.
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Some of the residents of the villages adjacent to Mariupol managed to get to the territory controlled by the DPR without any problems. But not everyone is so lucky, and everyone has their own story.
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During the first day of the humanitarian corridor's operation, only 52 people left Mariupol (and about 200,000 were expected). There are always human tragedies behind the numbers.A man walks by the tents where refugees are taken. He is on edge and does not let go of the phone, his face shows that he has not been without sleep for several days. His name is Igor, he spent about a day on the road to get to Bezymennoye from the Crimea. He constantly approaches the military, employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, asking to see the lists to find out if his elderly parents were able to evacuate from Mariupol. He is trying to go along with the soldiers towards the front line, closer to the city.
Igor said that in the last days of February, people in uniform came to the maternity hospital where his mother works. He does not know whether they were fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or the nationalist battalion "Azov" (banned in the Russian Federation). The military knocked down all the locks, dispersed the staff of the maternity hospital, and set up firing points in the building in order, as they explained to the doctors, to prepare the “fortress of Mariupol” for defense. The reaction of the military to objections is standard: blows with rifle butts, shooting into the air.
On March 7 (UTC-5) the permanent mission of the Russian Federation to the UN published a statement by its Permanent Representative Vassily Nebenzia had made at a UNSC briefing on the humanitarian situation in Ukraine. The briefing had been scheduled for March 7 3:00 pm local time (March 7 20:00 UTC). (The statement was fetched by archive.org on March 8 at 2:12 UTC.)
The statement says among other things:
By our records, 200 thousand civilians are trapped in Mariupol alone and held at gunpoint by the Azov battalion. The humanitarian situation in cities deteriorates rapidly. As for humanitarians who are ready to help, they cannot get in there and prevent the unfolding disaster. People in other regions of Ukraine that have been blocked by nationalist battalions find themselves in the same desperate situation.Ukrainian radicals show their true face more distinctly by the day. Locals reports that Ukraine’s Armed Forces kicked out personnel of natal hospital #1 of the city of Mariupol and set up a firing site within the facility. Besides, they fully destroyed one of the city’s kindergartens.
We have these records:
- On March 7 some time after 20:00 UTC the maternity hospital #1 in Mariupol was mention at a UNSC meeting as being occupied by the Ukrainian military.
- On March 7 21:01 UTC Lenta.ru published a report from a reporter in Donbas who had interviewed someone who said that the hospital was occupied by possibly Azov or other military forces.
- On March 9 about 15:30 UTC the hospital gets bombed and completely destroyed but with astonishing few alleged casualties none of which are documented despite video records taken on the scene shortly after the incident.
- Shortly thereafter President Zelensky uses the bombing to publicly press for a 'western' enforced 'no-fly zone' over Ukraine. (There is currently a Russian enforced no-fly zone over Ukraine.)
I leave it for readers to decide what really has happened here.
Posted by b on March 10, 2022 at 10:44 UTC | Permalink
next page »Most probably what happened there was what happened in Kuwait with the bad Iraqis throwing the babies from the incubators.
It’s really classic disinformation campaign.
This is right out of the CIA playbook.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov claims radicals took over the Mariupol maternity and children's hospital and mothers and staff had been chased out before strike.
Posted by: DG | Mar 10 2022 10:52 utc | 2
I posted this in the other comment section, but since you opened another item, I will post it here as well.
I want to point to the basis of propaganda, it is the so called illusion of truth effect. It goes like this:
False fact -> repetition -> familiarity -> processing fluency -> true fact
If you repeat a false fact long enough, our brain becomes accustomed to it and thus it is easier to process, that is called processing fluency. An easier to process item is asseessed by our brain more likely to be true than false. Evolution made it that our brain perceives threats by the difficulty to understand them, without us being aware of that assessment. If we had to make concious decisons each day, we would be still lying in bed. That is called heuristics.
Heuristics are simple, efficient rules, learned by evolutionary processes, that have been proposed to explain how people make decisions, come to judgements, and solve problems typically when facing complex problems or incomplete information. These rules work well under most circumstances, but in certain cases can lead to systematic errors or cognitive biases.
Researchers in 2015 found that this illusion of truth effect even works, when we know that the fact is untrue, but are exposed to the opposite for long enough. In other words: Repetition of a fact is such a strong propaganda tool that even the propagandists are affected by it (this explains why Western journalists are in fact self-propagandized):
"The prevailing assumption in the literature has been that knowledge constrains this effect (i.e., repeating the statement “The Atlantic Ocean is the largest ocean on Earth” will not make you believe it). We tested this assumption using both normed estimates of knowledge and individuals’ demonstrated knowledge on a postexperimental knowledge check (Experiment 1). Contrary to prior suppositions, illusory truth effects occurred even when participants knew better. Multinomial modeling demonstrated that participants sometimes rely on fluency even if knowledge is also available to them (Experiment 2). Thus, participants demonstrated knowledge neglect, or the failure to rely on stored knowledge, in the face of fluent processing experiences."
The paper is here: https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/features/xge-0000098.pdf
Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 10 2022 11:02 utc | 3
The beautiful model has been all over the place, here her instagram links:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cah7OCIKyOE/
https://t.co/Y18UQGCDix
The photographer is some Maloletka, trained by The Eddie Adams Workshop, in the USA that goes without saying.
If it would not be so sad and bloody, if so many people would not be and will be suffering, the whole spectacle is just outrageous, like Cookie Nuland under oath admitting about the labs and then warning that if anything happens well you know who is the guilty party. Just praying for the whole thing to end up soon, and a tribunal to be set up, Nurenberg II.
Posted by: Paco | Mar 10 2022 11:25 utc | 4
Looking at how Syria unfolded, the "enemy du jour bombed hospital X" seems to be a standardized information warfare tactic that is launched when the belligerents supported by the West have faced a significant set back. I would assume the Mariapol mop-up is nearing it's final phase.
Posted by: xor | Mar 10 2022 11:27 utc | 5
The face of the badly damaged building is pockmarked by machine gun bullets not shrapnel or fragmentation war head. A good deal of them run in straight lines and relatively even spacing's.
Out from the wall are two broken of trees and two cars crushed downward. The main blast seems to have occurred above that area.
The building to the right seems mostly damaged around the roof, and the face of the building under the damaged roof is also pock marked.
Zelensky mentioned an airblast.
It the short bit of film inside the building, there wasn't many beds in the rooms though one bed frame in the corridor and one room looked to have four.
Looking at the ground floor from the court yard, some rooms appeared to be stacked high with beds or bed frames and others were empty
One picture has some men carrying a supposedly pregnant women on a blanket or some sort of stretcher. They are two with shoulder patches or chevrons are National police which is run by Right sector and Azov.
This is nothing more than 'Russia bombs' Syrian hospitals 2.0
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 10 2022 11:28 utc | 6
Telegram post about the pregnant woman in the pictures. She is a beauty influencer from Mariupol that is working by force or voluntarily with the Azov it seems.
Posted by: R | Mar 10 2022 11:29 utc | 7
maybe there will be photoshopped pictures with victims strategically inserted into the "hospital" after the fact. the white helmets could possibly help tho they used real bodies.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 10 2022 11:31 utc | 8
Ukrainian soldiers hanging out in a kindergarten: video.
Of course, once their position is discovered and shelled by Russia, it will be presented as “bloodthirsty Russian scum killing innocent Ukrainian children”.
Posted by: S | Mar 10 2022 11:36 utc | 9
Lavrov's presser in Antalya not available in youTube, fortunately it is in Russian in VKontakte, here the link
Lavrov presser Antalya Russian
The FMinistry site is loading very slowly so probably later on a transcript will be available
Posted by: Paco | Mar 10 2022 11:38 utc | 10
@DG #2,
Babies in incubators indeed. And last hospital in Aleppo, anyone?
Yet, same old Russia.
The image of the seemingly unscathed pregnant woman carried out on a stretcher, amongst the twisted metal, bent trees and 3 metre deep crater has been doing the rounds in the Western press. But rather than quashing this with some Russian drone footage of the area before the strike, showing military men and vehicles, as we often saw in Syria, we are shown nothing.
I appreciate that facts on the ground are what really matter, but Russian incompetence in the media war really is something to behold.
Next it will be the same Chemical weapons hash we were bombarded with for years in Syria.
Posted by: Pat Bateman | Mar 10 2022 11:43 utc | 11
About the pregnant lady being carried off stage in front of the building;
A series of photos and some comments. (Photos not in any order.)
“maternity hospital in Mariupol. She turned out to be a model and a popular beauty blogger in Mariupol. Her name is Marianna Podgurskaya. The girl is indeed pregnant, but she could not “lie” in the maternity hospital, which had long been occupied by neo-Nazis from Azov."
https://twitter.com/Maraki378/status/1501867476220526596/photo/1
https://twitter.com/ruskadevushka_/status/1501866337928617993/photo/1
https://twitter.com/ruskadevushka_/status/1501866337928617993/photo/1
https://twitter.com/ruskadevushka_/status/1501866337928617993/photo/1
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"I reckon if we look at her husband, it going to turn out that he's in the government too lol"
https://twitter.com/ruskadevushka_/status/15018663165712
Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 10 2022 11:48 utc | 12
It's an interesting aspect of the mass insanity, how those who want to provoke a shooting war between NATO and Russia never say this directly but quickly reached consensus on the euphemism of "impose a no-fly zone" even though self-evidently this means using force to drive out the existing Russian air dominance.
It's not surprising that the US keeps throwing cold water on the idea. Given how Poland, Slovakia and Bulgaria already rejected the empire's urging them to host the MiGs-for-Ukraine provocation, and no doubt the other eastern NATO countries similarly would refuse the honor to be used and sacrificed like the Ukraine, it looks like there's no way the empire could induce anyone to attempt the no-fly adventure without the empire itself taking the active lead.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 10 2022 11:49 utc | 13
Pat Bateman | Mar 10 2022 11:43 utc | 11
Russians simply don't give a fuck what you think. To the Russians now, we're just the western white trash. Not to mention virtual anything Russian has been deplatformed in the west.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 10 2022 12:00 utc | 14
The last 'No-fly zone' ever was in Libya, right? And Putin is still regretting it to this day?
I don't think we will ever witness a no-fly zone enforced by UNSC anymore, it's a NATO thugs wet dream that belongs to the past.
Posted by: Francil | Mar 10 2022 12:00 utc | 15
“Every ruble paid in taxes to Russia turns into deaths and tears of Ukrainian children” shrieks Ukrainian MFA propaganda poster, calling for further withdrawals of Western businesses from Russia. In reality, 91 children have been killed in 2014–2021 by Ukrainian Armed Forces’ deliberate, punitive shelling of residential areas in Donbass—they were “Ukrainian children” as the Ukraine does not recognize the independence of the DPR and the LPR.
Posted by: S | Mar 10 2022 12:02 utc | 16
What in my mind is really shocking is the fact that the US functionary in charge of the Ukrainian disaster was recorded designating the coup leaders, admitting that five billions had been spent, telling the allies to go and f*ck themselves, and now publicly and under oath recognizing the fact that very dangerous labs are all over the borders of the Russian Federation. In any company or institution someone with that Midas touch, turning everything into excrement and not gold, would be fired instantly, but it seems the US government operates on a different level. Mind boggling.
Posted by: Paco | Mar 10 2022 12:05 utc | 18
(Not sure why and how my comment gets deleted but here it goes again...)
What other channels are besides obviously MOA to what's going on?
What about MOA? If dictator Ursula decides to continue her cancellation and censoring spree, it will go down together with the linked Twitter handles. Where will everybody re-emerge?
Posted by: xor2 | Mar 10 2022 12:07 utc | 19
Part 1:
The Western dictatorship already censored RT and Sputniknews. South Front seems to be inaccessible although my impression is that it's being DDoS'd.
Posted by: xor2 | Mar 10 2022 12:08 utc | 20
Avakov killed in Kharkov.
Posted by: Olivier | Mar 10 2022 12:02 utc | 17
Possibly a fake news.
Posted by: Olivier | Mar 10 2022 12:08 utc | 21
Part 2a:
There's also the following if one doesn't want to remain in informational oblivion (or immersed in an ocean of nauseating Western propaganda):
Posted by: xor2 | Mar 10 2022 12:10 utc | 22
Peter AU1 | Mar 10 2022 12:00 utc | 14
Russians simply don't give a fuck what you think. To the Russians now, we're just the western white trash. Not to mention virtual anything Russian has been deplatformed in the west.
Not to mention that anything the Russians do put out will just be dismissed as disinformation and the whole thing will turn into a he-said-she-said thing.
If anything, I think it's more effective that these stories get debunked so quickly by independent commentators. Not only does that mean that those pushing the stories have to play whack-a-mole trying to counter the debunkings, but the fact that so many commentators point out the obvious flaws in the stories gives the debunkings greater credibility.
And as Andrei Martyanov (Smoothiex12) pointed out in one of his videos, there's the old joke of two Soviet soldiers sitting in their tanks in the middle of bombed-out Berlin in 1945 commiserating over the fact the Soviet Union lost the information war to Goebbles' ministry of propaganda.
Posted by: Kukulkan | Mar 10 2022 12:11 utc | 23
Southfront has just become available to me but its page is outdated.
Earlier this morning I looked at its Telegram output and a story from last night said that 80 tons of ammonia had appeared in a Ukrainian controlled suburb of Kharkiv and fleeing residents had said that they were training civilians in chemical warfare protocol.
Posted by: Ralph Reed | Mar 10 2022 12:11 utc | 24
Part 2c:
The s a k e r
The link prevents the message from being registered. Is there some ban on this URL and if so why?
Posted by: xor2 | Mar 10 2022 12:14 utc | 26
RT and Sputnik have since March 8 completely disappeared from my browsers (unless when one uses a VPN), but both have their apps on my iPhone and they work fine
Posted by: Nutter | Mar 10 2022 12:22 utc | 27
there's the old joke of two Soviet soldiers sitting in their tanks in the middle of bombed-out Berlin in 1945 commiserating over the fact the Soviet Union lost the information war to Goebbles' ministry of propaganda.
Posted by: Kukulkan | Mar 10 2022 12:11 utc | 23
I like that one. That's about what I see happening in Ukraine.
As for the bulk of the western audience, they just look blankly at a screen and believe it because every one else believes it and nothing can break through to them. Life's far easier just believing what everyone else believes. I suspect the only thing that will break them out of it is if our economy crashes and burns and they have to eat grass for awhile.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 10 2022 12:32 utc | 28
(Truly sorry and my sincere apologies but posting the chopped up pieces together now, which I sent earlier and would like to delete)
The Western dictatorship already censored RT and Sputniknews. South Front seems to be inaccessible although my impression is that it's being DDoS'd. There's also the following if one doesn't want to remain in informational oblivion (or immersed in an ocean of nauseating Western propaganda):
https://avia-pro.net/
s a k e r (posting the URL causes the whole post to fail and register, there's no pattern in the URL that would seem to trigger an injection exploit alarm, if somebody knows the reason for the blocking, I'd be happy to know why)
What other channels are there besides obviously MOA to know what's going on?
What about MOA itself? If dictator Ursula decides to continue her cancellation and censoring spree, it will go down together with the linked Twitter handles. Where will everybody re-emerge?
Posted by: xor | Mar 10 2022 12:33 utc | 29
I think when people start going hungry and have to live on the street it will concentrate their minds wonderfully on how that happened. the Vietnam War ended when a bunch of middle class kids started dying or getting their legs blow off, and a bunch of then leftist future leaders of society in colleges feared being drafted to go die or get their legs blown off. then the government ended the draft and most americans went back to happy ignorance.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 10 2022 12:42 utc | 30
Given the terrorist nature of the Ukrainian army, as well as outright lies/slander as the main method of interaction between Ukraine and the outside world (especially in relation to the Russian Federation), there is no doubt that the maternity hospital is used as a military base. There has been repeated video evidence of Ukrainian terrorists using residential buildings as firing points and deliberately placing military equipment in residential areas, near houses, hospitals, kindergartens, etc. - a well-known terrorist tactic in Syria.
This story with the maternity hospital is a bleak attempt by Ukraine and its Western curators to revive the Syrian "the last hospital" scenario. Staged photos from the "scene of the tragedy" are funny. The photo was taken by the same girl in different angles and positions, who is a Ukrainian model and beauty blogger. Russian TV spoke about this staging, even showed the Instagram page of this girl. We see - as previously mentioned, including by the Russian side - an attempt to repeat in Ukraine the activities of the White Helmets.
Personally, I have no doubt that
1. The maternity hospital was used by Ukrainian terrorists as a firing point.
2. Maternity hospital patients, doctors, etc. were expelled from the building.
3. After the firing point was destroyed, Ukraine organized a staged photography to blame Russia, as usual.
I only urge readers/news viewers to remember that 99.9% (although 100% is a more accurate figure) of what Ukraine has stated and is declaring is a priori a lie. Exposed many times. Correct me, but I don't remember a single case when Ukraine's statements turned out to be true.
China already stabbed Russia in the back?
"According to Kudinov, the situation with the maintenance of aircraft and imports of spare parts is planned to be resolved, including through the re-export of components.
"As far as I know, …, China refused (to import components to Russia - TASS note)," he said, adding that the search would continue through other countries, possibly through Turkey or India. "Each company will negotiate on its own," Kudinov added.
Posted by: denazi | Mar 10 2022 12:58 utc | 32
This is a true atrocity. You know, like when that US C-130 gunship cruised over that Doctors without borders hospital in Afghanistan for an hour or more and killed over thirty doctors, nurses and patients.....sauce? geese? what?
Posted by: Sailor1031 | Mar 10 2022 13:00 utc | 33
Thanks to b, and friends, I am able to tell my TV addicted, cancer riddled, spouse, what the evening news is going to tell her, before the broadcast even begins.
Then, because of what I have learned from you propaganda debunkers, I am able to offer her a competing narrative.
I am very grateful to you for this.
Some posters here can be quite unforgiving, in their condemnation of stupid Americans.
I sometimes share your frustration.
However, given the leukemia spectrum propaganda and brainwashing that goes on in the USA, I would ask you to try to show a little empathy towards the victims of this mental onslaught.
Not everyone has the time, or the capacity to do the research that so many of the patrons here share with the rest of us.
A smug, superior attitude will not endear anyone towards your point of view.
This isn’t a universal problem, but something that I feel is important enough for me to say.
For instance, I would love to join Uncle Tugsten, and friends on their walk in the forest, and play the role of sponge.
If this bar survives the information purge, currently underway, I will be proud to mail my check to b.
Unless you want me to send one now, that is.
In that case, you know how to reach me b.
I wish you well.
Posted by: $outhpaw | Mar 10 2022 13:01 utc | 34
Posted by: xor2 | Mar 10 2022 12:07 utc | 19
It's a real issue. I can't see Moon of Alabama or even Naked Capitalism being allowed to 'broadcast' for much longer, especially as the war against Russian by the United States Empire continues and intensifies (which it is bound to do). Censorship is going to get even more extreme, as will propaganda and thought control, and if the war goes nuclear, it's martial law. So where will the real 'hashtag the resistance' go? Perhaps when the nuclear weapons start to fly the internet will go down, and we won't have to worry about that any more.....
Posted by: Hidari | Mar 10 2022 13:05 utc | 35
It is nice that the military did not keep the civilians around as human shields. I wonder how far Azov would go in that respect.
Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Mar 10 2022 13:08 utc | 36
A Ukrainian beauty blogger who "suffered" during the destruction of a firing point of Ukrainian terrorists, organized in an empty maternity hospital.
I wouldn't be surprised to see this site become unavailable in the US, but I think Naked Capitalism will stay up for awhile--my impression is they are better financed, and they are read by a lot of influential people, maybe better tech support. b is a one man operation (my impression anyway). but we are entering a brave new world. i'd rather live in less interesting times.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 10 2022 13:14 utc | 38
A number of good pics here https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/photos-ukraine-devastation-mariupol-russia-air-strike-hospital/100897562
Avery big crater that I had not seen earlier. The sort of crater something the size of a Tochka missile might make
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/ukrainian-military-targets-azov-battalion:-chechen-leader
The Ukrainian armed forces fired a missile at the Ukrainian right-wing Azov Battalion headquarters of the city of Mariupol over the latter's refusal to follow orders, the head of Russia's Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, said on Friday."Nazis from the Azov gang refused to obey the military command and coordinate actions with them. This led to the SSU [Security Service of Ukraine] performing a missile strike against the Banderite headquarters in Mariupol," Kadyrov wrote on Telegram.
The Ukrainian military used the Tochka U missile system, the Chechen leader reported.
"As a result, there are now 20 less good-for-nothing Bandera followers in the world," Kadyrov added.
Two Tochka's perhaps? One an impact and one a proximity fuse? But still, by the pattern, it looked like machinegun fire on the walls of the building rather than fragmentation pieces
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 10 2022 13:25 utc | 39
Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova also said this yesterday:
9 March 2022 16:04
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in Mariupol, the Ukrainian nationalist battalions forced the staff and patients to leave a maternity hospital and installed their firing positions there.
This has been presented as proof that the hospital was deliberately targeted later that day, but the other earlier reports that you mention tell a completely different story.
The alleged airstrike seems to fit in with the meme that has been popular in the past week of mothers having to give birth in cellars in Ukraine. Even the Ukrainian edition of Marie Claire published advice on ‘Childbirth at home during the war’.
March 4, 2022
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After a woman gave birth underground in the Kyiv metro, Iryna realised her team should create guides for women about to give birth. “Right now, pregnant women can’t even feel safe even in maternity hospitals as Russian soldiers are shelling those too,” she says.
https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/wellbeing/ukraine-womens-magazines-war-advice-readers-shoot-acrylic-nails-1496842
Putin's uncontrollable urge to bomb maternity hospitals is reminiscent of that of President Assad to gas children.
And the maternity hospital was apparently conveniently bombed just a day after International Women's Day, when the plight of women in the war zone was on people's minds.
Posted by: Brendan | Mar 10 2022 13:33 utc | 40
@38
Yes I think you are right, and for all their faults (and crimes) the Americans are fundamentally more committed to the principle of free speech than the worthless Europeans. But If I were 'b.' I would be thinking of how try to save this site if (and when) the increasingly repressive EU takes action against it. And how 'b.' is going to survive when his only income is removed from him. 'They can't do that'. They can do anything they want, and will.
The increasingly draconian and intense purge of leftist and anti-war Twitter is continuing and intensifying.
Internment camps for the 'bestial subhuman Slavs' by Christmas? A German hospital just posted on social media it will not treat any Russian (slav) regardless of the Russians position on the war, and will just let them die. Please note they are not apologising or explaining this. They are boasting.
If I were Russian I would be booking a one-way ticket back to the Motherland as soon as possible. It's not safe in the so-called civilised 'West' any more.
Posted by: Hidari | Mar 10 2022 13:50 utc | 42
The propaganda has reached such a level of absurdity that this old Onion report on "Putin's Russia" is indistinguishable from a PBS, CBC or MSNBC report:
It has to be seen to be believed.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2022 13:52 utc | 43
Ukrainian postal service is running a contest to select the best design for a postage stamp commemorating the Ukrainian defenders of the Zmeinyy Island (Snake Island) who allegedly swore off a Russian warship and then all died heroic deaths—that after even the Ukrainian Armed Forces have admitted that the story never happened.
This Ukrainian Nationalist mythomania is not limited to just wartime propaganda—they have always been doing this. First in interwar Galicia, then in U.S. and Canadian universities, then in 1991, when Canadian historian Orest Subtelnyy’s Ukraine: A History was adopted as the basis of the historical education in the Ukraine (Subtelnyy’s scientific adviser was Soviet–U.S. historian Oleksander Ohloblyn, who was the Bürgermeister of Kiev during the Babiy Yar massacre), then after the “Orange Revolution” and especially after “Euromaidan”.
Posted by: S | Mar 10 2022 13:55 utc | 44
Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 10 2022 13:14 utc | 38
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Naked Capitalism is stuffed with liberal elites that grift on the margins of finance.
You could never argue that NC is a gateway drug for radicalization as it is too milquetoast and suburban. That site's content is always within the guardrails *responsible* discourse and never controversial. It gently reassures the reader of what they already think.
Consider a society managed by Naked Capitalism's readership and be afraid.
Posted by: too scents | Mar 10 2022 13:56 utc | 45
naw pushing back against the propaganda blitz, which NC does to some extent (not anywhere near the Gray Zone or MOA or Ritter) is controversial. the grifters might help it survive. it isnt radical and won't be any time soon, but it isn't NPR.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 10 2022 14:02 utc | 46
Supposedly a report Azov battalion took hold of clinic …
Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 10 2022 14:02 utc | 46
A somnolent masquerading as a stimulant.
Posted by: too scents | Mar 10 2022 14:10 utc | 48
"How come that there were allegedly only 17 people injured?"
I blame the school system - the question is: do these people involved the PSYOPs have a firm grasp of the basic principles of arithmetic?
Posted by: Derrick | Mar 10 2022 14:15 utc | 49
Propagandize this:
U.S. Inflation Hit Fresh 40-Year High of 7.9% Before Oil Spike
Posted by: too scents | Mar 10 2022 14:26 utc | 51
Southfront is back up after being purged by its host in Germany.
Posted by: Ralph Reed | Mar 10 2022 14:29 utc | 52
Donahue was hardly radical but they forced him off the air anyway during the buildup of Iraq. that's NC. they're wrong sometimes, and too much of a gatekeeper, but that doesnt make them a gatekeeper on this issue.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 10 2022 14:30 utc | 53
This is interesting, from 2020: (translated)
Mykola Azarov: We were overthrown because we wanted to close Pentagon bio labs - новости-украины, April 28, 2020Former Prime Minister of Ukraine Mykola Azarov, who held this post under President Viktor Yanukovych , spoke about the activities of the biological laboratories of the US Department of Defense on the territory of his country.
In his Facebook, the ex-premier emphasized that his government had nothing to do with the opening of these centers. The decision to start their work was made by Yulia Tymoshenko's cabinet.
And an agreement was signed between the US Department of Defense and the Ministry of Health of Ukraine on the establishment of such laboratories in August 2005 under the presidency of Viktor Yushchenko, when Tymoshenko was already retired.
"What to say? Of course, not a single sovereign and independent country that thinks about its people and the future will let other people's uncles into the issues of biological safety of the population, ” writes Azarov.
He notes that the goals for which these laboratories were created are unknown to this day, since all their activities are classified, and Ukrainian citizens are not even allowed to work closely.
“Since 2005, the United States has established laboratories in Odessa, Vinnytsia, Lvov, Kherson, Ternopil and a number of other settlements in Ukraine. I emphasize that these are the laboratories of the American military, ”says the former head of the cabinet.
According to him, after his government came to power in 2010, negotiations were launched with the Americans on this issue. In 2012, Kyiv started talking about granting Ukrainian scientists access to these centers or their complete closure. At that time, inspections of the activities of these laboratories were initiated.
“With sin in half, we were shown something, but what we saw did not suit us. In 2013, we sent an official letter to the US Government to terminate this agreement. What happened next, you yourself know: a coup d'etat, Maidan, which, in fact, was organized by the Americans. Now these laboratories continue to work in Ukraine. Nobody controls them, they flourish ,” Azarov concludes.
Earlier, EADaily reported that the US Embassy recognized the presence of American biological laboratories in Ukraine. According to the official version, their goal is "peaceful research and development of vaccines ".
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 10 2022 14:33 utc | 54
An updated statement from the RU mod on Ukraines bio lab work is now up on the Saker.
TL/Dr version is that it looks dodgy as all hell.
Posted by: S.O. | Mar 10 2022 14:34 utc | 55
Now it's three killed and 17 injured
AP
Attack on Ukrainian hospital draws outrage as talks stall
MARIUPOL, Ukraine (AP) — A Russian airstrike on a Mariupol maternity hospital that killed three people brought condemnation down on Moscow on Thursday, with Ukrainian and Western officials branding it a war crime, while the highest-level talks yet yielded no progress in stopping the fighting.
Emergency workers renewed efforts to get food and medical supplies into besieged cities and get traumatized civilians out.
Ukrainian authorities said a child was among the dead in Wednesday’s airstrike in the vital southern port of Mariupol. In addition to the dead, 17 people were wounded, including women waiting to give birth, doctors, and children buried in the rubble. . .here
NY Post
Zelensky calls deadly Russian bombing of Ukrainian hospitals a war crime
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday night slammed Russia’s bombing of multiple hospitals as a war crime and shamed the West in a renewed call for assistance as the Russian invasion rages on.
“Today, we must be united in condemning this war crime of Russia, which reflects all the evil that the invaders brought to our land,” Zelensky said in his nightly address, referring in part to the airstrike of a maternity hospital in the besieged city of Mariupol.
At least three people were killed, and 17 were wounded in the airstrike, according to the Associated Press. . .here
Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 10 2022 14:39 utc | 56
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Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2022 14:39 utc | 57
This happens because the Russians are winning the war.
Exactly as with "chemical attack" false flags in Syria when the Syrian army was winning there.
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 10 2022 14:43 utc | 58
no ceasefire - Russia's going for victory
Reuters
No progress on Ukraine ceasefire in Lavrov-Kuleba meeting
ANTALYA, Turkey, March 10 (Reuters) - Talks between Russia and Ukraine's foreign ministers on Thursday made no apparent progress towards a ceasefire in the two-week-old conflict or on a humanitarian corridor from the southern Ukrainian port of Mariupol.
Ukraine's Dmytro Kuleba said after the talks that he had sought a 24-hour ceasefire across the whole combat zone as well as the opening of a Mariupol corridor, but that his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov did not commit to either. . .here
Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 10 2022 15:03 utc | 59
Well with the OSCE monitors being pulled out it was just a matter of time before this kind of story would find its way into the Western media, knowing how the Ukrainian Nazis have acted over the last fourteen day and how they have shelled schools and hospitals in Donbas, and set up heavy artillery in residential areas, its far more likely that this attack was carried out by them and not Russian forces.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 10 2022 15:04 utc | 60
Posted by: too scents | Mar 10 2022 13:56 utc | 45
I don't think you are right. The comment section at Naked Capitalism has maintained a skepticism regarding official US claims about the Ukrainian affair, Lambert published an entire piece demonstrating the corrupt puppet-like nature of Zelenksy, and Yves has been tireless in intervening in comment threads to correct misapprehensions or distortions of the longer history of US involvement in Ukraine dating back to 2014 and before. Indeed, I would maintain that Naked Capitalism remains one of the very few--three? four?--sane independent media outlets in the US. They have not bought the propaganda .
Posted by: WJ | Mar 10 2022 15:05 utc | 61
Politico
We should all be watching’: Harris says U.N. should probe Putin’s ‘atrocities’ in Ukraine
Vice President Kamala Harris on Thursday said the United States would participate in investigations by the United Nations to determine if Russia has committed war crimes during its invasion of Ukraine.
Harris, speaking at a joint news conference with Polish President Andrzej Duda, accused Russia of committing “atrocities” amid the two-week conflict, citing what the international community has already “been able to see” in images and videos of Ukraine’s devastated urban centers. . .here
Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 10 2022 15:09 utc | 62
Posted by: WJ | Mar 10 2022 15:05 utc | 61
Naked Capitalism is a safe space. They could go harder than a kindergarten for suburbanites but they don't.
Posted by: too scents | Mar 10 2022 15:10 utc | 63
Tell me why are your running after these fake news? We have seen this propaganda more than 30 years... sorry 300 years....
Posted by: Frankie | Mar 10 2022 15:11 utc | 64
To put it simply, this is another amateurish theater to demonize the Russian President, Vladimir Putin further. A desperate and idiotic scramble to cover-up the real scandal of the illegal bio-weapon's program of the joint Ukraine and the USA.
The drug addict former comedian on a harrowing reality-show's calling for the impossible is pitiful. If NATO were capable of imposing a "no-fly zone" on Ukraine that would have been their first move. Sorry Ze, get some more fix, but your handlers are not dealing with Libya. And they know it, if even if that fact cannot penerate your addled brain.
Posted by: Steven | Mar 10 2022 15:14 utc | 65
xor | Mar 10 2022 12:33 utc | 29
If dictator Ursula decides to continue her cancellation and censoring spree, it will go down together with the linked Twitter handles. Where will everybody re-emerge?
There are several lists of "unreliable" sites conveniently provided by the government and other "fact-checkers". Just go to Duckduckgo and ask for them. Of course, you will have to wade through a fair amount of chaff to find the wheat, if yer no wot I mean sorta thing like!
Posted by: foolisholdman | Mar 10 2022 15:18 utc | 66
I didnt like NC reacting to an apparent error by Ritter by kind of demoting him as a source, but I didn't examine it closely, maybe he didn't even make a mistake. so that would be worse. but all sites have their drawbacks, including this one. both have been providing some good information in this current environment.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 10 2022 15:28 utc | 67
all of this fake news and staged events makes me question accepted history of everything since we came down from the trees.
Posted by: Manage without me | Mar 10 2022 15:29 utc | 68
@Manage without me | Mar 10 2022 15:29 utc | 68
Well we didn't come down from trees, so there you go.
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 10 2022 15:30 utc | 69
inflation before oil spike? Silly, oil isn't factored into inflation; what spike, the metrics don't see volatile goods, they'd show too much inflation.
Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 10 2022 15:33 utc | 70
@Manage without me | Mar 10 2022 15:29 utc | 68
Well we didn't come down from trees, so there you go.
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 10 2022 15:30 utc | 69
See what I mean?
Posted by: Manage without me | Mar 10 2022 15:34 utc | 72
This is the Mariupol maternity hospital
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@47.151615,37.6079427,154m/data=!3m1!1e3
Click on the building on the map and it brings up details and photos. Looks to be the only maternity hospital in Mariupol but its a different building to the bombed one in the pics. A number of other building in Mariupol that get flagged when I just look for hospitals but none are the bombed building.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 10 2022 15:38 utc | 73
People can say this, people can say that. Eventually, reality cannot be hidden forever. But, for those who have been following the empires lies for years, know, or suspect, that the same old playbook is being employed.
Let's all hope the Russia /China alliance, and the joint statement they made together, is implemented...
Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 10 2022 15:41 utc | 74
Don, I know who we can send in to conduct Kamala Harris' probe, why those arbiters of all truth the White Helmets. When you need to fight nuance, bring in the White Helmets. When you need the "facts" in stark relief, the White Helmets will make it all black and white.
Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 10 2022 15:43 utc | 75
A video of the place where Azov got hit with Tochku missile/s.
https://en.topwar.ru/193063-v-komandovanii-nm-dnr-zajavili-chto-raketnyj-udar-po-baze-nacbata-azov-nanesli-ukrainskie-voennye.html
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 10 2022 15:44 utc | 76
This a compelling read from an on the ground Russian soldier in Ukraine.
https://thesaker.is/the-opinion-of-a-professional-about-the-special-operation-in-ukraine-must-read/
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 10 2022 15:45 utc | 77
Russia is doing a war crimes investigation in Ukraine.
Russia opens over 400 criminal cases against Ukrainian "war criminals". . .here
Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 10 2022 15:50 utc | 78
Compare the above alleged Ukrainian hospital bombing with Afghan, Syrian and other hospital bombings - many by the US: Medecin San Frontiers list of hospital bombings
Posted by: c1ue | Mar 10 2022 15:50 utc | 79
Wanted to get in a post early on the thread, so I apologize for not reading through all the previous posts, or for possibly repeating what may already have been said.
Of course it is rank manufactured propaganda. As already stated by Putin, Lavrov, the RU UN ambassador, Russians know they will not win the propaganda war, the narrative war, and that even before their decision to act that Russia would be targeted with sanctions no matter what they do.
BUT- HOLD ON TO YOUR HATS, AND TRY TO KEEP DOWN YOUR LAST MEAL! This morning on US msm the talking heads are talking up the assertion that "Russia may launch chemical or biological attacks!" Soooo, how many hours will pass do you think before there is indeed some sort of chemical or biological "attack"?
I'd wager no more than two days - max. The way the empire of lies is now operating, with so much garbage floating around, they have to say it, promote it, and do it very quickly, before the next action, the next element of the narrative is trotted out and given life, so as not to unduly confuse the sheep.
I smell desperation in the air.
Posted by: vinnieoh | Mar 10 2022 15:58 utc | 80
Excellent work b; many thanks. And to juxtapose with the service you're providing, I came across this little gem among the editorial subheaders on Muslim Brotherhood Media (aka al Jazeera); "Is impartiality always key to quality journalism?"
JFC, you cannot make this sheise up. Thanks again b (and karlof).
Posted by: robjira | Mar 10 2022 16:01 utc | 81
The Russian MOD announced on 7 March that the hospital had been turned into military 'object' and was occupied by the Nazis. Of course, it's just propaganda isn't it?
Posted by: Barofsky | Mar 10 2022 16:02 utc | 82
@ 79 sad;
"BUT- HOLD ON TO YOUR HATS, AND TRY TO KEEP DOWN YOUR LAST MEAL! This morning on US msm the talking heads are talking up the assertion that "Russia may launch chemical or biological attacks!" Soooo, how many hours will pass do you think before there is indeed some sort of chemical or biological "attack"?
Yep,no doubt, it's coming.....
Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 10 2022 16:03 utc | 83
Barofsky @ 81
Yes, obviously propaganda by the Evil Putin who while painstakingly, and with added Russian casualties, has tried to minimize civilian deaths, just couldn't help himself when it came to a Maternity Hospital full of pregnant women and just delivered infants.
b- thanks for the focus on this case to debunk the obvious.
Re the biolabs, I agree with others that 'something wicked this way comes.'
Posted by: gottlieb | Mar 10 2022 16:11 utc | 84
Yep,no doubt, it's coming.....
Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 10 2022 16:03 utc | 82
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It would be less escalatory to wait until after Russia's counter sanctions are announced.
Posted by: too scents | Mar 10 2022 16:14 utc | 85
Latest on the US bio weapons is interesting.
https://thesaker.is/ministry-of-defence-of-the-russian-federation-statements-and-those-biological-labs/
Details of the UP-4 project became known, which was implemented with the participation of laboratories in Kiev, Kharkov and Odessa and was designed for the period up to 2020.Its purpose was to study the possibility of the spread of particularly dangerous infections through migrating birds, including highly pathogenic H5N1 influenza, the mortality rate of which reaches 50 percent for humans, as well as Newcastle disease.
Due to the fact that Ukraine has a unique geographical location where transcontinental migration routes intersect, 145 biological species were studied within the framework of this project. At the same time, at least two species of migratory birds were identified, whose routes pass mainly through the territory of Russia. At the same time, information about migration routes passing through the countries of Eastern Europe was summarized.
Of all the methods developed in the United States to destabilize the epidemiological situation, this is one of the most reckless and irresponsible, since it does not allow to control the further development of the situation. This is confirmed by the course of the pandemic of a new coronavirus infection, the occurrence and features of which raise many questions.
In addition, the R-781 project is interesting, where bats are considered as carriers of potential biological weapons agents.
Among the priorities identified are the study of bacterial and viral pathogens that can be transmitted from bats to humans: pathogens of plague, leptospirosis, brucellosis, as well as coronaviruses and filoviruses.
It is noteworthy that the research is carried out in close proximity to the borders of Russia – in the areas of the Black Sea coast and the Caucasus.The project is being implemented with the involvement of not only Ukrainian, but also Georgian biological laboratories controlled by the Pentagon in cooperation with the Virginia Polytechnic Institute and the US Geological Survey....
...One of the documents confirms that all serious high-risk studies are conducted under the direct supervision of specialists from the United States
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 10 2022 16:17 utc | 86
So - the US is now claiming that Russia has just “destroyed a maternity hospital in Mariupol.”
Some MOA veterans may remember the fierce battle waged by Russian forces to drive the Islamic terrorists out of Aleppo, Syria, and may even remember that the US, once every other week or so, would claim that Russia “has just destroyed the last maternity hospital in Aleppo.” That went on until a group of pediatric physicians from Aleppo, fed up with the ridiculous lies, organized an advertising campaign showing that every hospital in Aleppo was still standing and still in full operation.
Remember, the two most outstanding abilities of the US government are lies and destruction.
Posted by: AntiSpin | Mar 10 2022 16:18 utc | 87
Things seem to be going well for the empire.By Ignoring Putin's requests for territorial security, and forcing him to act, the empire/NATO, is now casting his actions as "just like Hitler", and, with the "full court press" employed by our MSM, is winning the info war. At least here, in the U$.
The morons in charge here, really do want a Russia/ U$A confrontation. Sick...
Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 10 2022 16:24 utc | 88
Paul Craig Roberts’ recent article, in frustration at the pace of Russia’s operation includes videos…there is one video of bodies.. in ‘bags.’
Watch, nothing like the wind to expose….a ”dead” guy can’t keep still
Courtesy of the bought and paid for guys and gals reporting.
Crisis Actors Pretending to be Dead Ukrainians Can’t Keep Still and Fox News Talking Heads Can’t Stop Lying
https://www.unz.com/proberts/crisis-actors-pretending-to-be-dead-ukrainians-cant-keep-still-and-fox-news-talking-heads-cant-stop-lying/
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too scents | Mar 10 2022 14:26 utc | 51
7.9% inflation in actual numbers at that date was 15%..[Shadowstats]
Now for $7.00 gas and food will not be included in the BLS' (Bureau of Lying Stats) tabulating method.
Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 10 2022 16:27 utc | 89
If Russia stopped their "invasion" today,
would the West restart their offensive?
That is, would the Ukies again attempt to ethnically cleanse the Donbas?
Would NATO then attempt to place offensive weapons on the border of Russia within the Donbas?
Posted by: librul | Mar 10 2022 16:29 utc | 90
P.S.--I still continue to believe, had U$A/NATO addressed Putin's security concerns from the "get go", all that's come to pass, could have been prevented.
Which also, leads me to believe,that present circumstances are approved by the empire, and its minions.
Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 10 2022 16:36 utc | 91
Likklemore | Mar 10 2022 16:27 utc | 87
That video is amazing. The screen is cut off on the left and I can't see what "news" channel is doing the broadcast. PCR doesn't explicitly say it is a fox news video and what little of the logo I can see is red and I dont think that is fox's logo color. Not sure, I don't watch, but I thought it was red, white and blue.
Do you know what channel was recording this?
Posted by: David F | Mar 10 2022 16:38 utc | 92
All of what is going on these days makes me think of the Gulf of Tonkin resolution. One doesn't need to sneak a load of cat fertilizer into the Ukraine to create a dirty bomb and blame the explosion on the Russians; one just needs a 'regrettable incident' that devolves into a Rashômon retelling. By the time the facts are established, the momentum is too late, as the great Rufus T. Firefly said, "It's too late. I've already paid a month's rent on the battlefield."
I am beginning to believe that we shall be bombing /someone/. Perhaps a return to Syria, this time "for real"? Anywhere where we see the Russkie hand? It certainly cannot be the Ukraine, the Russians have a tendency to fight back when you poke at them and they have nuclear weapons. I suspect the USA will have to find substitutes for Russia, but what? Or who? (I would hate to be some small country right now that is Russia's friend, or any person with Dixie Chicks-level popularity who expresses too much of an antiwar stance.)
The US, sadly, acts like a dysfunctional parent toward the defiant 'child' of Russia. Psychologists say that punishments should always be short term. If your teen daughter is chatting too much on the phone with boys, you take her phone away for a week instead of six months so that good behavior brings a reward. Any longer than that and the teen daughter gets used to living without a phone (or uses her friend's phone) and parents have one less lever to use.
To extend this analogy to the breaking point, parent US has now taken away child Russia's cellphone, car, computer, video games, has grounded him, put him on rations, taken away his clothes and is forcing him to live in a tent in the backyard and "everything is gone /forever/, until you behave!" - but after all of that 'tough love' the /child will not obey/! And remains recalcitrant! There is little left for the US to take away, and few other options left.
Posted by: Ursula Zandt | Mar 10 2022 16:41 utc | 93
Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 10 2022 16:27 utc | 87
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Yes of course. The BLS will easily mislead people about their actual expenses.
Posted by: too scents | Mar 10 2022 16:41 utc | 94
Follow up to myself at 90.
Does anyone have a clip of the part of this recording that was shown to the western public?
Posted by: David F | Mar 10 2022 16:45 utc | 95
From Tass.
This needs thinking about before we all go - batty? (my emphasis).
"MOSCOW, March 10. /TASS/. More than 140 containers with ectoparasites of bats were taken from a biolaboratory in Kharkov abroad, chief of Russia’s radiation, chemical and biological protection force, Igor Kirillov, said on Thursday.
"The analysis of the obtained documents confirms that more than 140 containers with ectoparasites of bats - fleas and ticks - were taken from the biolaboratory in Kharkov abroad," he said, adding that Pentagon also demonstrates interest in insects capable of carrying dangerous infectious diseases.
Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Igor Konashenkov said earlier on Thursday that the analysis of the documents from biolaboratories in Ukraine that were obtained in the course of the special military operation in that country revealed evidence that Pentagon had been funding research aiming at developing a mechanism of the latent spread of deadly pathogens."
****
I wonder what the Chinese will make of that?
Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 10 2022 16:45 utc | 96
I would agree, WJ | Mar 10 2022 15:05 utc | 61. As here, there is a lot of miscellaneous, but even in the weeds of such it's possible to find out important stuff, just take along a handy rake. (It's good practice for our gardens.)
For instance, Don Bacon's link tells us that the Russians are pursuing war crimes trials, so thank you, Don as well.
Posted by: juliania | Mar 10 2022 16:48 utc | 97
too scents @51--
Bloomberg's carrying water for the government as the rate of inflation was much higher than 7.9%. Here's John Williams of Shadowstats:
"Designed to reverse the inflation-reduction methodological gimmicks of the early 1980s, and after, the headline ShadowStats Alternate Inflation Index in January 2022 jumped by 15.6% year-to-year, up from 15.1% in December 2021 and 14.9% in November, with the headline January inflation at its strongest reading since 17.6% in the traditional CPI of June of 1947, topping an interim peak of 14.8% in March of 1980, when the headline CPI of the time still was the same series that would become the ShadowStats Alternate Inflation Series, after January 1982." [My Emphasis]
Here are the charts. The bottom chart reflects the methodology cited above and will be well beyond 20% with the inclusion of soaring fuel costs, making reality far worse than Bloomberg and other media want to admit.
Atrocity propaganda is what the Americans specialize in such as:
-Lies about Kuwaiti Incubator babies to justify America's Operation Desert Slaughter against Iraq in 1991.
-Lies about the "Racak Massacre" and supposed Serbian concentration camps to justify America's human rights bombing of Serbia in 1999.
-Lies about Muammar Quadaffi and his supposed Viagra-fueled "rape squads" to justify America's human rights bombing of Libya in 2011.
-Lies about the Syrian government using "chemical weapons on its own people" (like in Douma) and the American manipulation of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) to justify its human rights bombing of Syria in 2018.
-Etcetera ad nauseum.
The United States of America is truly the (Evil) Empire of Lies.
When you deal with America, the operative principle should be Distrust but Verify.
Posted by: ak74 | Mar 10 2022 16:52 utc | 99
Yesterday the Swedish minister of defence said on state television that NATO or European troops in Ukraine is out of the question because it would trigger WW III. Might seem insignificant — we where beaten by the Russian in Poltava in 1709 and haven’t been back since — but Swedish military is present at all USnato consultations on Ukraine, so it tells you something about the feeling of the military on this side of the Atlantic.
Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Mar 10 2022 16:58 utc | 100
The comments to this entry are closed.
AZOV-ISIS are now pushed to the center of Mariupol. Video 9.3.2022.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvfoj7AahaM
Posted by: Frankie | Mar 10 2022 10:47 utc | 1