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March 11, 2022

Challenge-Response - How Russia Is Countering 'Western' Moves Against It

Challenge:

March 3: Zelensky says 16,000 foreigners have volunteered to fight for Ukraine against Russian invasion

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Thursday said that 16,000 foreigners have volunteered to fight for Ukraine against the Russian invasion.

In an emotional video posted to his Telegram channel, Zelensky referred to the “international legion” of 16,000 foreign volunteers he has sought to “join the defense of Ukraine, Europe and the world.” The country earlier this week temporarily lifted visa requirements for foreign volunteers who wish to enter the country and join the fight against Russian forces.

March 8: 450 Arab and foreign extremists from Idlib arrive in Ukraine

Close to 450 extremist Arab and foreign nationals have arrived in Ukraine from Idlib to fight against Russia's forces, less than only three days after they left Syria, passing through Turkey.

Relatives of extremists that have arrived in Ukraine told Sputnik that senior fighters from terrorist group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (the rebranded version of Jabhat Al-Nusra, i.e Al-Qaeda) have held a number of meetings with senior leaders in the Turkistan Islamic Party group and Ansar Al-Tawhid and Hurras al-Din groups, and agreed on allowing a number of all their fighters to enter Ukraine through Turkish soil.

Response:

March 11: President of Russia: Meeting with permanent members of Security Council

Sergei Shoigu: We are receiving a huge number of requests from all manner of volunteers from different countries, who would like to come to the Lugansk and Donetsk people’s republics to take part in the liberation movement, as they say. The largest number of requests, over 16,000, has come from the Middle East. We believe that we should grant these requests, especially since the matter does not concern money but a genuine desire of these people. We know many of them; they helped us fight ISIS in the most difficult period, during the past 10 years.
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Vladimir Putin: All right, thank you very much.

Regarding the mobilisation of mercenaries from all over the world and sending them to Ukraine. We can see that Ukraine’s Western sponsors and the Ukrainian regime are not concealing this fact. They are doing this openly and neglecting norms of international law. So, if you see that some volunteers would like to come and help the people in Donbass, especially without pay, then we should meet them halfway and help them relocate to the war zone.

I am sure that the fighters from Syria and elsewhere who will fight on Russia's side will get some pay from this or that sponsor, most likely Iran. Some Russian billionaire may also be willing to chip in. But it is important for Putin to show that these are not mercenaries like those on the other side - thus no official pay.

There was an additional challenge-response pair with regards to Ukraine.

Shoigu also mentioned all the foreign weapon deliveries the Ukraine has received. He told Putin that the Russian forces had captured large amounts of heavy and light weapons including U.S. derived Javelin and Stinger missiles. He proposed to give those to the militia of the Donbas republics.

Putin agreed with that.

A third challenge-response is the immense number of forces NATO currently mobilizes and moves towards its eastern border. Shoigu thinks that NATO plans for those troops to stay there forever. He will soon propose a new arrangement of Russian forces to potentially counter them.

Putin said that he would decide that separately. A few hours later he had a meeting with President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko. The two likely discussed the stationing of Russian troops and weapons like air defense and missile artillery systems in Belarus. That would make any potential NATO move more complicate.

In the above challenge-response pairs the Russian response is symmetric to the challenge. Foreign fighters versus foreign fighters, weapon deliveries versus weapon deliveries, and troops movements versus troop movements.

The challenges Russia has not yet responded too are the myriad sanctions the 'west' has enacted against it. There the responses can only be asymmetric.

I wonder why Putin is waiting to make them public. Does he want to keep them in reserve?

Posted by b on March 11, 2022 at 14:48 UTC | Permalink

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@98 Sunny Runny Burger - Maybe the pilot of the drone was trying to defect to Croatia. Oh wait.

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 11 2022 18:18 utc | 101

If this were Germany, NATO would be responding, they wouldn't be fearful to be engaged. Putin knows this; I sometimes wonder if a few here do; some people make great analyses but then drift into slippery slope, and then this, and that, and nukes and world war 3; and battling with sticks. NATO has shown they're not willing to fight for Ukraine; that was Putin's first goal; that was the same in Georgia in '08 was the squelch the NATO lie. Putin knows it would be different; though we're seeing feints and lunges, no body is jumping; thankfully; somewhere there appear to be adults behind the curtain. What's sad is all the Ukrainians getting chewed up and used, their lives disrupted so US/NATO could fuck with the Russians. For what possible good or end would this meddling produce? Where is the benefit, the upside of what we've been up to? I guess we're supposed to believe these are all "necessary evils" the Media IS PAN-GLOSS

Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 11 2022 18:18 utc | 102

YouTube has announced that they will now be removing ALL videos that give an alternative interpretation of the situation on Ukraine RT's youtube channel is still online but it will be blocked in the next few hours or so. RT's website has also been offline for me in Toronto for most of the day. Clearly Ukraine is winning, why else would the West need to block all alternative news sources!

Posted by: Kadath | Mar 11 2022 18:18 utc | 103

Sunny runny burger.

One guy says it is just wrong coords plotted into it by an idiot. Ie 180 degree wrong in direction from Moscow but is exactly the same range.

Another guy said it was a trial run to see if nato could make it deliver a dirty bomb or biowarfare ie it had two Parachutes ! They already knew it was on Nato radars, so why noone shot it down if it wasn’t theirs?

Posted by: Brother Ma | Mar 11 2022 18:19 utc | 104

@Kadath #103

RT live stream on Rumble: https://rumble.com/vwbbjn-putin-announces-special-operation-in-donbass-special-coverage.html

Posted by: S | Mar 11 2022 18:23 utc | 105

Never been a big fan of Henry Kissinger but his analysis on Ukraine is on the money...

Ukraine has been independent for only 23 years; it had previously been under some kind of foreign rule since the 14th century. Not surprisingly, its leaders have not learned the art of compromise, even less of historical perspective. The politics of post-independence Ukraine clearly demonstrates that the root of the problem lies in efforts by Ukrainian politicians to impose their will on recalcitrant parts of the country, first by one faction, then by the other.
Subject: How the Ukraine crisis ends (Kissinger wrote it 8 years ago)

Posted by: circumspect | Mar 11 2022 18:23 utc | 106

again, C1ue, sorry, you obviously know nothing, learned nothing about military engagement from Vietnam, Iraq, Somalia, Syria, Libya; It's a lot tougher to invade a country, tanks are very limited, and my point is about resolve, being entrenched; not knowing the "terrain" and I mean human, social terrain. The point is the US, Germany haven't fought a war, they've thrown some resources at off, we've not been engaged in existential fights; nothing close to it, we've refused to sacrifice, but been happy to inflict damage and harm for at little costs. We weren't willing to die to defend our fuckery abroad. Defending Germany would be VASTLY different. Clearly you've lost all understanding of that, must be an US. (I am too, but I can empathize,)

Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 11 2022 18:24 utc | 107

on the topic of national industrial policy, I suggest exercising caution in using Korea and Japan as examples of export success (and Taiwan for that matter), because that analysis, while true, overlooks a key external factor which is that they were and are US vassals.

which means they were guaranteed access to the US market, given technology transfers instead of blocked from such access, and can be extorted from and put down when necessary (see japan in Plaza Accords), so the US does not regard their success as threatening. also, during the cold war, the US wanted them to succeed to show that capitalism and the American way was the correct and shining path, in contrast to their neighboring commie china.

in other words, Korea and Japan did have appropriate industrial policy but the geopolitical situation is a key component of their export success. if you are china's neighbor, as with Japan Korea Taiwan and you are not a US vassal then you can do everything right yet still end up like north Korea, just for not being compliant. (which is also why china's rise is so remarkable, as it enjoyed none of the vassal advantages of the Asian tigers, whose success was meant to counterbalance and change commie china).

all of which is to say economics cannot be talked about separately from politics. it's not economics, but rather political economy.

Posted by: mastameta | Mar 11 2022 18:27 utc | 108

no, Kissinger is worth listening to (better to read, talks too slow), always compelling. Like talking to the devil; you know he's not all wrong; but he's so wrong.

Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 11 2022 18:27 utc | 109

@Kadath #103

You can watch it here: https://tinyurl.com/rtenglishlive

Posted by: S | Mar 11 2022 18:29 utc | 110

Re:109 S,

Thanks S! RT's youtube channel is now blocked in Canada

Posted by: Kadath | Mar 11 2022 18:50 utc | 111

mastameta @107--

Excellent observation! All three economies grew in response to massive infusions of war-related dollars pouring into their economies plus having direct access to the North American market to sell their trinkets--first Japan, then Taiwan, then South Korea, and we shouldn't forget Singapore and Thailand as they also profited. The Asian Tigers were then viciously put-down in the deliberate Asian Financial Crisis engineered in 1997. Before that, there was the Plaza Accord that debilitated--knee capped--Japan in 1985. The Outlaw US Empire is now doing what it did to Asian economies to the Europeans, but it's incapable of damaging China or Russia, so it demonizes and wages hybrid warfare on them.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 18:54 utc | 112

"I wonder why Putin is waiting to make them public. Does he want to keep them in reserve?"

John Helmer has the answer. There is a power struggle between the 5th colum neolibs in Russia that Putin still listens to and who control the economic and financial policy, and the Stavka. Which delays the response. The stavka had to fight since 2014 to finally get Putin to take the steps the Russians have taken on 2022/02/24. Which is sad, because had Putin acted on the Stavkas recommandation and not on the neolibs in 2014, the then army of Ukraine of 5000 (sic) soldiers would have been crushed in days, and with SEVERAL orders of magnitude less dead Russians, civilians and Ukrainian soliders. Not to speak of billions of destroyed material and 100s of billions of dollars in economic costs. Not to speak of a world wide economic crisis.
Now the liberals have lost their power to decide military policy. But they STILL keep the power in the economic and finance sphere. Including Kudrin, the wests prefered Putin replacement, who is still pulling the strings in the background.
While the stavka seems to gain power in the economic sphere, it is far from certain they will be able to decide over the neolibs. Which, in an economic policy sense, include Putin, who has been and still is an open supporter of economic neoliberalism.
Despite what some here may dream.

Posted by: DontBelieveEitherPr. | Mar 11 2022 19:00 utc | 113

FULL VIDEO: Russian UN Rep at Security Council Exposing US and Ukraine Biolabs

https://rumble.com/vx49p5-full-video-russian-un-rep-at-security-council-exposing-us-and-ukraine-biola.html

Scary.

Posted by: DG | Mar 11 2022 19:01 utc | 114

@ScottinDallas
imperialists like Kissinger and later the neocons, at least they did not lie both to others and to themselves over why they were invading and destroying a country. whereas American liberals do the same thing but for 'humanitarian' reasons.

the difference is not just the hypocrisy of liberals. worse is that liberal interventionism avoids the important question How is this intervention beneficial to our national interest? at least the imperialists actually addressed the question even if we don't agree with their goals.

sending arms to Ukraine and getting more war funds from congress -- how does that benefit Americans and america as a whole? liberals do not ask the question.

put differently, even though it is now a bad word today, the problem with liberals is that they are not nationalists.

Posted by: mastameta | Mar 11 2022 19:01 utc | 115

Saker has todays MoD Joint Coordination Headquarters for Humanitarian Response in Ukraine Telegram channel report for those of us who can't access it. I suggest all barflies take the time to read the full report. Here're a few random items:

"The Kiev authorities have banned the mayors of cities from any contacts with the Russian side, including on the organization of humanitarian corridors. All those who disagree are simply shot.

"To date, more than 7,000 from 21 foreign countries remain hostage to Ukrainian neo-Nazis, whom the nationalists continue to hold as 'human shield'."

"In addition, foreign partners express particular concern about the lack of the possibility of safe passage of ships from the ports of Ukraine due to the high mine danger created by the Kiev authorities in their internal waters and territorial sea, as well as possible provocations by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including shelling of ships from the shore.

"Currently, there are more than 50 foreign vessels in Ukrainian ports, crewed by foreign citizens of Azerbaijan, Greece, Georgia, Egypt, India, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, the Philippines, Jamaica and a number of others.

"Ukraine’s actions to create a mine danger violate the provisions of international humanitarian law in terms of mine installations that threaten the safety of civilian vessels of third States. The concern of the Russian side in this regard was stated on March 10 at an extraordinary session of the Council of the International Maritime Organization, which is a specialized agency of the United Nations.

"▪️ We call on the Ukrainian side to strictly comply with the norms of international humanitarian law and ensure the safe exit of foreign vessels from Ukrainian ports and the territorial sea.

"We emphasize once again that the Russian Armed Forces do not pose a danger to navigation in the Azov, Black Seas, as well as other areas of the World Ocean."

Yesterday's report is also available here.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 19:04 utc | 116

Putin is NOT a supporter of Neoliberalism. His policies and proposals are based on the concept of Human Centered Development, not Financial Parasitism.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 19:07 utc | 117

On the bioweapon labs, the following is from yesterday's report linked @114--

"It is highly likely that one of the objectives of the US and its allies is to create bioagents capable of selectively targeting different ethnic populations.

"During a hearing of the US Senate Foreign Affairs Committee on 8 March, Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland reported on the presence of bioweapons in Ukraine where biosecurity research had been conducted. She expressed concern about the possibility of these bio-laboratories and the materials there being taken over by the Russian Armed Forces.

"According to available information, the Americans have already managed to evacuate most of the documentation, including databases, biomaterials and equipment from laboratories in Kiev, Kharkov and Odessa to the Lvov Research Institute of Epidemiology and Hygiene and the US Consulate in Lvov. The possibility of transferring part of the collection to Poland has not been excluded.

"In fact, with her statement, Nuland indirectly confirmed the Pentagon’s military-biological program in Ukraine in circumvention of existing international agreements." [My Emphasis]

Again, more evil criminality committed by the Outlaw US Empire. My apologies to the world that we citizens have allowed so many crimes to happen for so long.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 19:16 utc | 118

Since the US is directly challenging Russia on her doorstep, Russia is entitled to deliver a response directly to the doorstep of the White House, with duplicata delivered to the war lobby ... I mean this situation can get out of hands pretty quickly; neither the Russians want to kill their brothers in Ukraine, and neither the Chinese want a hot war in Taiwan. So the whole front might move to the American soil as the US steps up the provocations overseas. I am sure no one in the White House even thinks of that script seriously.

Both China and Russia have exhausted the possibilities of diplomacy and the US is deaf and blind to any reasonable effort at negotiating fair deals. Diplomacy has already morphed in a hot war in Ukraine. Neither Europe nor the US make any effort to revive the diplomatic process there and they have cut all the bridges already. So war there will be and at a large scale. Who needs that?

Posted by: Richard L | Mar 11 2022 19:24 utc | 119

IMHO,

This is a continuation of Nudelman-Khagan's ClusterFailed Plan Launched in 2014.

Sevastopolis were Scheduled to be converted into a USNavy/NATO Base (US Navy Published Requests for Renovation Bids in 2014-15). That would have involved the A) Takeover of Crimea and B) Ethnocidal Removal of Russian Military, Ethnic-Russians of Crimea/Sevastopolis.

Civil/Secessionist War in UKR, supported by Murican/NATO/EU Econ Sanctions must have been in the Schemes from 2014.

Posted by: IronForge | Mar 11 2022 19:26 utc | 120

EU announces when and how it will cut it's throat/energy:

"As part of the proposed plan, the Commission is expected to present, by mid-May, a number of possible measures to 'optimize' the design of the electricity market with a view to decarbonizing the energy mix. The plan is expected to help to completely eliminate dependence on Russian fossil fuels by 2027."

Five years to build how many nuclear and regassification plants? And that also means five more years of depletion from current sources, meaning North Sea.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 19:33 utc | 121

The Washington Post is headlineing that the US and its G-7 allies have stripped Russia of its trading status

Biden, European allies move to strip Russia of trade status.

If this is true then the symmetrical response from Russia will be very bad for Western Europe indeed.

Why does the West keep escalating before waiting for a Russian response?

Posted by: too scents | Mar 11 2022 19:37 utc | 122

because the West suffers from premature escalation syndrome.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 11 2022 19:40 utc | 123

La possibilità che gli Usa mantengono gli impegni assunti con dei trattati è una pia illusione, domandare ai nativi ameringhi cosa ne pensano della lingua biforcuta dell'uomo bianco.

Posted by: Alessandro Cagliostr | Mar 11 2022 19:42 utc | 124

In that article by Unz mentioned @10, there is another interesting article from 2017 about the US gathering bioinfo on Russians presumably for biowarfare purposes. That possibility was mentioned by Russia at UNSC today.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Mar 11 2022 19:42 utc | 125

Who exactly is the "bell of the ball"?
Posted by: c1ue | Mar 11 2022 17:47 utc | 84

It's "belle of the ball." The most attractive lady on the floor. Used now as a general expression of extraordinary approval.

Posted by: AntiSpin | Mar 11 2022 19:42 utc | 126

Mantengano

Posted by: Alessandro Cagliostr | Mar 11 2022 19:42 utc | 127

@ c1ue | Mar 11 2022 17:56 utc | 91

thanks... i agree with much of your more nuanced view on this...

@ too scents | Mar 11 2022 19:37 utc | 119 quote - "Why does the West keep escalating before waiting for a Russian response?"

because if you are a little baby and you don't get your way immediately, this is what you do...

Posted by: james | Mar 11 2022 19:43 utc | 128

karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 19:16

Frankly, Nuland's interrogation by Rubio seemed quite staged to me.

Posted by: Linus | Mar 11 2022 19:45 utc | 129

A update on the situation in Ukraine.


"In accordance with its commitments and exclusively for humanitarian purposes, the Russian Federation has opened ten humanitarian corridors from 10 a.m. Moscow time today to evacuate civilians and foreign citizens from Kiev, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv and Mariupol cities, including one humanitarian corridor from each city to the Russian Federation, as well as one through the territories controlled by the Kiev authorities to the west, to Poland, Moldova and Romania.

▪️ Of the ten routes we proposed, the Ukrainian side agreed on only two – on Kiev and Mariupol directions. At the same time, once again not a single humanitarian corridor to the Russian Federation. At the same time, the Kiev authorities additionally announced four more routes from Izyum, Energodar, Volnovakha and in the Zhytomyr direction. For humane purposes, we agreed with them.

▪️ Official Kiev, as before, continues to reject humanitarian corridors towards Russia, arguing that there are simply no civilians and foreign citizens who want to go to the territory of the Russian Federation.

We have already talked about this – it is a lie and a cynical deception. At the same time, the results of daily monitoring show the opposite – 23,127 more people have taken refuge in the Russian Federation from the horrors and arbitrariness staged by nationalists in the last 24 hours alone, and there are already 2,619,026 of them from almost 2,000 settlements of Ukraine.

And this is not just statistics, it is the fate of people, their hopes for the end of the daily nightmare, despair from the hopelessness of the situation. The Kiev authorities have legalized crimes against humanity, ignore numerous cases of looting, robbery, banditry, and sanctioned the use of weapons by nationalists against the civilian population, including women and children.

▪️ Another provocation of nationalists was recorded in Kharkov, where, in order to conceal research on nuclear topics, militants of territorial defence battalions blew up one of the buildings of the Physics and Technology Institute on Akademicheskaya Street. Up to 50 employees of the institution can be under the rubble.

In addition, in the same city, in the basement of an art school on Yesenin Street, militants hide the bodies of civilians killed during a punitive operation against persons who did not support the criminal Kiev regime.

In Sumy, nationalists conduct raids on private households, during which, under threat of physical violence and murder, forcibly seize food, fuel, equipment, as well as personal cars from people.

▪️ The Kiev authorities have banned the mayors of cities from any contacts with the Russian side, including on the organization of humanitarian corridors. All those who disagree are simply shot.

▪️ Taking into account our responsibility for the humanitarian component and ensuring the safety of the exit of civilians and foreign citizens forcibly held by nationalists in the blocked settlements, from 10 a.m. by means of objective control, including unmanned aerial vehicles, intensive monitoring of the situation on humanitarian routes is being conducted.

The results of objective control again show that the ceasefire is actively used to intensively regroup units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and national battalions in defensive positions, as well as to move weapons and military equipment to more advantageous positions.

▪️ To date, more than 7,000 from 21 foreign countries remain hostage to Ukrainian neo-Nazis, whom the nationalists continue to hold as “human shield”.

The fate of these foreign citizens has been the subject of round-the-clock cooperation with representatives of the relevant diplomatic agencies.

▪️ Please note that by the decision of the Minister of Science and Higher Education of the Russian Federation, foreign students evacuated from the territory of Ukraine will be able to continue their studies at Russian universities according to quotas for foreign students. To this end, the Ministry of Education and Science of Russia is already preparing notes to the embassies of the relevant foreign states.

▪️ In addition, foreign partners express particular concern about the lack of the possibility of safe passage of ships from the ports of Ukraine due to the high mine danger created by the Kiev authorities in their internal waters and territorial sea, as well as possible provocations by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including shelling of ships from the shore.

Currently, there are more than 50 foreign vessels in Ukrainian ports, crewed by foreign citizens of Azerbaijan, Greece, Georgia, Egypt, India, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, the Philippines, Jamaica and a number of others.

Ukraine’s actions to create a mine danger violate the provisions of international humanitarian law in terms of mine installations that threaten the safety of civilian vessels of third States. The concern of the Russian side in this regard was stated on March 10 at an extraordinary session of the Council of the International Maritime Organization, which is a specialized agency of the United Nations.

▪️ We call on the Ukrainian side to strictly comply with the norms of international humanitarian law and ensure the safe exit of foreign vessels from Ukrainian ports and the territorial sea.

We emphasize once again that the Russian Armed Forces do not pose a danger to navigation in the Azov, Black Seas, as well as other areas of the World Ocean.

▪️ More than 9,500 temporary accommodation centres continue to operate in the regions of the Russian Federation.

A sufficient number of buses and supporting transport for the transportation of refugees are kept in constant readiness at checkpoints and temporary accommodation places. They are equipped with everything necessary for a temporary stay, hot meals are provided, mobile medical centres are deployed.

Federal executive authorities together with the subjects of Russia, various public organizations, patriotic movements have prepared more than 16,500 tons of humanitarian aid.

1,671 tons of humanitarian cargo have already been delivered to Ukraine, 212 humanitarian actions have been carried out, including 26 actions in Chernigov region, as well as in Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics, during which 250 tons of basic necessities, medicines and food were transferred to the civilian population of the liberated areas.

Today, 23 humanitarian actions are being held in Kharkov, Zaporozhia, Kiev and Chernigov regions, during which 284 tons of basic necessities, including food, are being transferred to the population.

▪️ Despite this, 34,555 people, including 3,562 children, were evacuated from the dangerous zones of various regions of Ukraine, as well as the Lugansk and Donetsk people’s republics, during the day without the participation of the Ukrainian side, and more than 223,000 people have been evacuated since the beginning of the special military operation, 50,258 of them children. The state border of the Russian Federation was crossed by 23,253 vehicles, of which 1,249 per day.

In addition, today the Russian Armed Forces ensured the safety of the movement of a humanitarian convoy from Energodar city to Zaporozhye, consisting of 13 buses, 130 private cars with 957 refugees, and also managed to evacuate more than 62,000 refugees from Sumy in Poltava direction within a day.

▪️ As for the statement of the President of Ukraine about the impossibility of evacuation from Volnovakha and Mariupol, we explain.

The variant of evacuation from Volnovakha proposed by the Ukrainian side, due to ignorance of the true situation on the “ground”, once again puts official Kiev in an absurd position, since this locality is currently completely controlled by the units of the People’s Militia of the Donetsk People’s Republic, who are already building a peaceful life in Volnovakha.

Appropriate humanitarian measures are being carried out with the population, and none of the residents are going to leave their homes.

▪️ About the situation in Mariupol. The city is blocked, all bridges and approaches to the city are destroyed, the main roads are mined by nationalists, and armed men walk through the streets, open fire indiscriminately, thereby forcing the civilian population to stay in their homes."

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 11 2022 19:46 utc | 130

@Don Bacon, #12:

In any case, we have the example of Trump's tariffs on China, which only increased prices. In these inflationary times, that's silly.

You over estimated American politicians, Don. You assumed Brandon/Trumpo did those things as strategic tactics in an ongoing conflict, and were intended to achieve some meaningful strategic outcomes. Nah! They did those things to gain front page space and TV prime time slots to project tough guy images to their zombie constituents. They just want to win cookie points. They have no idea what their tactics would ultimately lead to. But why the hell should they care? Their constituents would love them for what they say and imply. Their constituents are zombies indeed.

By the way, Brandon/Trump are of the same type of calibers as their constituents. That's the sad reality of the Empire these days.

By the way, by Brandon/Trump constituents I don't mean the 40+% of eligible voters of the USA who voted for these clowns per se. I meant the 99+% of the voting public. There are 1-% left, and here we are posting at MOA:-). These days voters in the Empire have no means of being meaningfully informed, on any matters including weather or pandemics, due to the soulless MSM that has sold their soul as Faust did, since the mid-90's. Prior to the mid-90's the Empire's MSM were propagandists too, but they at least had a modicum of conscience of absolute rights and wrongs. No more! The war against Yugoslavia swept away any remnants of morality into the dustbins of the Empire's press. Sad! Sad! Sad!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 11 2022 19:46 utc | 131

"John Helmer has the answer. There is a power struggle between the 5th colum neolibs in Russia that Putin still listens to and who control the economic and financial policy, and the Stavka. "

Helmer is a dud. Most of his stuff comes out of a fertile imagination. I've read him often enough.

RU has been consistent and deliberate in all of its moves. What is the hurry? It is selling oil and gas at luxury prices, it is doing well in the UE de-militarization and de-nazification.

No default, Gazprom has paid its loan for the month.
The EU is on the hook for RU oil and gas until 2027.
Mariupal is soon to be lost to the UE.
The mayor of Kviv says that 50% of the civilian population has been evacuated.
India is willing to sell boing boing and airbus parts to RU.
DB is not going anywhere.
70% of the RU are still in Swift.
Precision bombing of Lutsk. Probably means that the wannabe rambos from the ME and the EU and ussa are in body bags.
RU is on the verge of buying all foreign currency in RU from holders in exchange for gold.
Donbas militia get the military equipment sent to the UE by the EU and the murikans.

All one has to do is sit back and observe the raging hysteria in the european and murikan MSM to know that the western empire is in its death throes. What is the hurry?

...chess not checkers

Posted by: bobert | Mar 11 2022 19:47 utc | 132

WTF is going on with these Turkish Bayraktor drones?? -- they dominated in Libva, Azerbaijan, so the Russians had plenty of warning about them ..... and yet there does not seem to be a comprehensive defence in place for these lumbering 80 mmph aircraft that appears to be doing so much damage.

Posted by: chet380 | Mar 11 2022 19:50 utc | 133

I smile, shake my head in disbelief at the level of stupidity as I type. "Washington bans dollar supply to Russia" which Russia says Great! We accept your helping us dedollarize our economy!!

And the world looks on, shakes its collective head and continues to move assets from Outlaw US Empire controlled venues. I see this as a challenge to the world to arrange a different international monetary system that completely omits the dollar.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 19:51 utc | 134

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 11 2022 15:21 utc | 11

...Or are we instead seeing a trampoline in the making, the trampoline that would move NATO weapons to the "hot spots" around the world, where NATO's tails would be time and again pinched by NATO's own weapons? Say, if some Ukrainian Javelins and Stingers hurt someone in At-Tanf, how would Zelensky compensate for that to USA?

I don't think the US is too worried about a scenario like yours in at-Tanf. The reason it is presently sitting safe and serene is not from lack of arms on the occupied's side, but from lack of initiative. ie, deterrence working well.

I would also think that those supplying these weapons in ukraine are confident that wherever they may turn up, it will most likely be someplace which will eventually need to be burned down.

Their to-burn list is extensive and can be summarized as anywhere East of Lisbon.

Posted by: robin | Mar 11 2022 19:55 utc | 135

Posted by: annie | Mar 11 2022 15:30 utc | 18

...Sushi posted a comment in the Sanction Backlash thread (#188) about Russia capturing strategic rail lines. this morning i read about 3 more targeted cities, all also strategic rail lines...

In my opinion, the Empire is planning for the next phase in Ukraine. The kind of warfare whose logistics aren't based on trains, but on vans and pickup trucks.

Posted by: robin | Mar 11 2022 19:55 utc | 136

Soviet-era drone, believed from Ukraine, crashes in Croatia, Zagreb.

Posted by: Asdfg | Mar 11 2022 20:01 utc | 137

Soviet-era drone, believed from Ukraine, crashes in Croatia, Zagreb

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/soviet-era-drone-believed-ukraine-crashes-croatia-zagreb-says-2022-03-11/

Posted by: Asdfg | Mar 11 2022 20:02 utc | 138

I'd like to make a correction to my post @128.

I am mistaken by saying the US sold its soul in the mid-90's. I am mistaken by one decade. It actually started during the Reagan glories, when the previous dementia patient in the White House sold weapons to Iran so as to fund the Nicaraquan Contras, then turned around and sold chemical weapons to Sadam to kill Iranians en masse. I'm sure Satan was mighty proud of those moves. Those slick moves pleased the rednecks so much, it permanently turned the Yellow-dog-Democratic South red from North Carolina to New Mexico ever since.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 11 2022 20:03 utc | 139

After reading several of John Helmer's articles at his Dances With Bears blog, I agree with Bobert @ 129 that Helmer often lets his prejudices get the better of him when reporting on anything that involves Russian President Vladimir Putin. Helmer never has a good word for Putin's actions or what he assumes goes on in Putin's head. I only read Helmer if he has anything on particular events - the MH17 shootdown and its legal aftermath, the Skripals poisoning - but not much else.

Posted by: Jen | Mar 11 2022 20:09 utc | 140

@chet380 130

What is going on with these Turkish Turkish Bayraktar Drones ?

It's basically just wunderwaffen or miracle weapon propaganda, they do well when the opposing force has no point air defense in place, then their anti tank missiles can destroy older generation tanks and armored vehicles, remember the russians advanced onkiev in a 65 km long convoy lol.

It basically the same kind of cult crowd as the a10 tankkiller cult, does well when the enemy has no air defense lol.

Posted by: jimmy | Mar 11 2022 20:09 utc | 141

they do well when the opposing force has no point air defense in place
Posted by: jimmy | Mar 11 2022 20:09 utc | 138

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I should like to know how they can fly in a contested EW space?

Posted by: too scents | Mar 11 2022 20:12 utc | 142

Robin @ 133:

Oh dear, that means Toyota Hi-Lux utility vehicles will start disappearing in Sydney again as they did several years ago and turn up in the oddest spots, like that van sold by a US (Texan?) painter (with his business name and phone number still attached; the buyer said he would repaint the van) on his home soil, that ended up in Syria.

Posted by: Jen | Mar 11 2022 20:14 utc | 143

this is the most promising thing i have noticed about the real reaction of real australians in over two years: Q+A records worst ratings since it began in 2008. The ABC’s political chatfest program has tanked in the ratings, a week after host Stan Grant booted a pro-Russian audience member while live on air. articles at theaustralian.com.au (subscription only) and news.com.au (trash tabloid).

people are not okay with cancelling russia, we just have no voice. the level of actual war support, outside the media, would be so small as to be barely measurable.

Posted by: Rae | Mar 11 2022 20:17 utc | 144

With all of these sanctions governments are throwing out now against Russia, people are missing out on suffering these sanctions are causing their own citizens. I just called up one of the liqueur providers impacted by Canada's temper tantrum polices and the salesperson said that my call had made his day, his business has been effectively ended by Canada's sanctions (these restrictions will probably last years) and he was deeply appreciative of my support for his product. This was a law biding, tax paying citizen who's business was destroyed by the government over a single night in a hallow gesture of virtue signaling.

Posted by: Kadath | Mar 11 2022 20:20 utc | 145

@karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 17:52 utc | 87

"On patents, very briefly. Patents are another form of protection that were engineered to extract further rents and are completely unnatural. They deny advancement to certain segments of humanity--those that can't afford to pay the rents--and are thus a restraint of trade and yet another form of discrimination aimed at keeping part of the world dependent upon another. Humanity ought to advance humanity; so, patents could also be described as Anti-Human..."

This^^^ x1000. Here's to voiding all patents, redefining the whole concept of property away from prettified theft, and advancing humanity!

Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 11 2022 20:21 utc | 146

@ tooscents

I should like to know how they can fly in a contested EW space?

Well they have 2 flight modes, remote control mode and autonomous mode, EW can cut the link between the operator and the drone and then the drone would be in autonomous mode, it could still drop a bomb on a pre programmed target, but it would not be able to take out a moving tank. Or it could fly to a pre programmed airstrip and land when it detects EW interference.

Posted by: jimmy | Mar 11 2022 20:23 utc | 147

Oldhippie#92. I'd expect the foreign fodder is brought to Poland by plane, equipped and armed in Poland then flown in to Ukraine by C130. The C130s likely flying in under the radar. Concluded that after watching a rather large missile strike on an airport somewhere in western Ukraine. Rather big blast, doubt it's an airport anymore.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 11 2022 20:24 utc | 148

Russia is the main bulwark against the NWO.

Posted by: Andrea Catalano | Mar 11 2022 20:27 utc | 149

Volnovakha has fallen.

https://twitter.com/PLnewstoday/status/1502375987862024194

This small town was the south-eastern anchor point for the Ukrainian forces around Donetsk. I expect a domino effect for the Southern front to roll up the Ukrainian forces around Donetsk.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 11 2022 20:28 utc | 150

Posted by: mastameta | Mar 11 2022 18:27 utc | 107

And

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 18:54 utc | 111

South Korea and Taiwan, once I heard, have seen their development through 50's to 80's (at least) as "by invitation", with huge economic influx from US. Same for Japan, which had a previous industrial base (very few, if any, survived to WWII, but the "industrial culture" was still there...). All to avoid people from those countries to be "tempted" to even ask "What is socialism for??".

And let's not forget West Germany, same "industrial culture" still there after WWII. Facing the DDR, there was the need to transform the west part of Germany after WWII in a "case of success" for the capitalism, opposing it to the "grey", "poor" socialist DDR (and showing West Berlin as an "oasis" surrounded by the DDR's desert, that was a recurrent image shown to me by TV and papers all along my childhood in the 70's...)!

Posted by: C Khosta y Alzamendi | Mar 11 2022 20:31 utc | 151

Republicofscotland | Mar 11 2022 19:46 utc | 127

Thanks for the excellent update.

***"

chet380 | Mar 11 2022 19:50 utc | 130
Bayraktars? depends where your information comes from.

"From the statement of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:

▪️During the day, aviation and air defense of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down three unmanned aerial vehicles in the air, including two Bayraktar TB-2;"

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robin | Mar 11 2022 19:55 utc | 132

"I don't think the US is too worried about a scenario like yours in at-Tanf. The reason it is presently sitting safe and serene is not from lack of arms on the occupied's side, but from lack of initiative. ie, deterrence working well."

More likely is Syria (SAA) taking advantage and using this period to put pressure on the US in Eastern Syria. I saw a report where a build-up of Syrian forces has been seen near Tabqua (The dam, near Raqqah).

However, I am not sure of the reliability of the source,
and, SAA troops could equally be used against the Turkish forts along the northern border. To help Hasaka.

Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 11 2022 20:33 utc | 152

Well they have 2 flight modes,
Posted by: jimmy | Mar 11 2022 20:23 utc | 144

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I was more wondering about the radio-telemetry. Whether it is direct or relayed. And if the communication is relayed is the service provider is Türkiye via satellite or NATO via AWACS.

Direct communication would be very permissive of Russia.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 11 2022 20:35 utc | 153

Just came across an interesting news tidbit. Russia Aviation official Valery Kudinov revealed that China has refused to supply Russia with airplane parts for Boeing and Airbus planes. This is reported in today's Oriental Daily News.

https://orientaldaily.on.cc/content/%E5%85%A9%E5%B2%B8%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A%9B/odn-20220312-0312_00180_005/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9C%8B%E6%8B%92%E6%8F%90%E4%BE%9B%E9%A3%9B%E6%A9%9F%E9%9B%B6%E4%BB%B6%E4%BA%88%E4%BF%84

Sorry, there is no English version. Russia indicated they will buy from India and Turkey instead.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 11 2022 20:38 utc | 154

Video of

Dilyana Gaytandzhieva, Bulgarian Investigative Journalist: "How a journalist gets expelled from the European Parliament when asking the Assistant Secretary at the US Department of Health questions about the Pentagon bio laboratories around Russia, China and Iran." March 8th 2018

https://twitter.com/ivan_8848/status/1501635779256365057

Posted by: Zanon | Mar 11 2022 20:38 utc | 155

Sean @ 145

Yes, that is possible. They could also fly to Romania, Hungary, Slovakia. And then what? Even if a C-130 miraculously evades the Russian no fly zone what do they do next? Commandeer local civilian vehicles and find some always abundant local diesel? Or do they walk through the woods all the way to Kiev? Maybe there are some pre-positioned Bradley’s waiting for them. Of course they will have to requisition food from the locals. Requisition some housing too. Oh, these are all Wahhabi so they will need halal food. They can steal that from the Chechen forces. It gets more and more ridiculous. This is war by press release. None of this is real. NATO is going to win the fantasy football game in Ukraine. The real war can be avoided entirely by locking down Russian news sources.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 11 2022 20:43 utc | 156

Stonebird (149).

Its not mine I didn't write it, it came from here.

https://thesaker.is/russian-mod-joint-coordination-headquarters-for-humanitarian-response-in-ukraine/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 11 2022 20:43 utc | 157

The challenges Russia has not yet responded too are the myriad sanctions the 'west' has enacted against it. There the responses can only be asymmetric.

I wonder why Putin is waiting to make them public. Does he want to keep them in reserve?

He can't afford a knee-jerk reaction with the stakes so high. Maybe he's devising a contingency plan with allies and interested parties who don't want or need the Russian economy to collapse, whereby he balances or offsets potential losses with gains somewhere else with someone else.

Once his ducks are all in a row; no one can brag that he cut off his nose to spite his face.

That's why revenge is a dish best served cold.

The big picture as I see it: Putin's moving the pieces around, changing the rules of the game, and he's enforcing the same standard for all the big players.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 11 2022 20:43 utc | 158

c1ue | Mar 11 2022 15:35 utc | 24

Energy is included but exact measures are unannounced. To me it looked as though it would be left open for the president to decide on when and how energy would be used. I did read the list of measures but cannot remember if it was a Russian news site or a government site. Right at the bottom of the list was just the one sentence on energy.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2022 20:46 utc | 159

robin | Mar 11 2022 19:55 utc | 132

To add to my 149;

There are quite a lot of Tornados (UK) and accompanying stratotankers, who take a route South of Tel Aviv and then fly along the Southern syrian border. They drop off the radar about half way along before passing Al Tanf. I do not know where they are going to.

A couple of Typhoons (RFR9728) have been seen in Bulgaria patrolling along the coast of the Black Sea. (Watching Odessa)

The Uk is trying to start WWIII all by itself now?

Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 11 2022 20:47 utc | 160

sitting in a comfortable chair and thinking about the strength of fighters in each camp of the sanctions map... and then feel disgust at myself when i read: Dont abuse their hardship coming from Western sanctions and lure them to Ukraine as expendable cannon fodder. Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 11 2022 16:27 utc | 44

thanks for the reminder Arne! life good, war bad.

(i reckon Arne has best contribution:postnumber ratio of last couple weeks)

Posted by: Rae | Mar 11 2022 20:50 utc | 161

"What's sad is all the Ukrainians getting chewed up and used, their lives disrupted so US/NATO could fuck with the Russians. For what possible good or end would this meddling produce? Where is the benefit, the upside of what we've been up to? I guess we're supposed to believe these are all "necessary evils" the Media IS PAN-GLOSS"
Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 11 2022 18:18 utc | 102

Exactly SiD, All the ensuing BS just to "fuck with" the Russians. What kinda' morons are making these braindead decisions? Had anyone with a double digit IQ been involved, they could've made an accommodation to Putin's security concerns weeks ago, but no, we must meddle at all costs, because hey, we're the best, and everyone else is crap!

Posted by: vetinLA | Mar 11 2022 20:53 utc | 162

@too scents 150

according to : https://bulgarianmilitary.com/amp/2020/11/26/ukrainian-bayraktar-tb2-unmanned-aerial-vehicles-with-increased-control-range/

The Ukrainian military has recently managed to increase the radio control range from 150 to 300 km, so a range that short rules out indirect satellite or even Awacs wich would give them much longer radio control range, so it probably just direct communication, and when the antenna tower is high enough it could reach 300 km or they could have made the switch to medium wave frequencies with a lower antenna, because those frequencies have ground effect propagation to reach 300 km radio range.

Posted by: jimmy | Mar 11 2022 20:56 utc | 163

Arioch | Mar 11 2022 17:32 utc | 75

While your dissent regarding TM’s assertion that Bennett experienced “confusion”regarding the situation in 2014 is probably accurate for several reasons or more, I wonder if the extent of the collaboration and possible calculated results of chaos were known by his circle.

I don’t know much, only my immediate experience, but is it possible that Bennett is in a different loop from what you assume? I peruse the global daily papers regularly and recall a blurb in Haaretz several months ago reporting more than several surprise resignations after a new head honcho took charge of the organization, implying dissent — but what do I know. I wonder what that was about? Perhaps you, seemingly so informed, might know?

Posted by: suzan | Mar 11 2022 20:59 utc | 164

Here's Greenwald dissecting empire propaganda about the "research labs" in Ukraine.
https://systemupdate.substack.com/p/video-transcript-the-white-houses?s=r

Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 11 2022 21:11 utc | 165

c1ue @ 83 says:

"... heretofore taboo subject of Americans losing jobs to China via anticompetitive practices..."

LOL. Bush, Clinton, Obama and many others talked and took actions about this subject before Trump (and not just China, but also about losing jobs to other Asian and European countries)

"...bringing trade with China into both public and political focus. Really speaking, that's all anyone can do."

LOL again. That is very low standard. Even by that low standard, Trump failed miserably. How many people are still talking about trade with China today, except to complain about the tariffs?

Trump is stupid, just like his supporters. Smart people don't use wishes as substitution for logical thinking.

Posted by: d dan | Mar 11 2022 21:17 utc | 166

Here's reborn Cold Warrior Jeffrey St. Clair, an aged Nestor giving assent to the folly and madness of the Crusaders' zeal:

"If I were Ukrainian and living in Kyiv or Odessa, I’d certainly be out on the streets, rolling flaming tires at Russian tanks."

as much as I adore David Yeardsley's regular posts at CP, please, PLEASE do not give Counterpunch one cent of your money. that overread asshole needs to reread "Demons" before his son, Biden-like, takes his advice and signs up with that adorable motley band of Nazis and jihadis that the West is paying to fight in Ukraine. Cuz we are all heroes in conflicts on the other side of the planet. what a piece of shit he is. never seen a day of combat in his life, telling civilians to take up weapons against Russia. Fuck him.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Mar 11 2022 21:19 utc | 167

I constantly encounter this sort of headline "US Clearly Has No Substitute Plan After Banning Russian Oil, May Face Recession, Investor Says", specifically the bolded segment I highlighted. Economically, the Outlaw US Empire has yet to recover from what some call the Great Recession caused by Wall Street and its affiliates's illegal antics that burst in 2007-9 for which both Bush and Obama refused to send anyone to jail or nationalize any of the failed banks. I further argue that the economy never came out of the recession caused by the Dot.Com bust from 1998-2000. The most important question I'm trying to get Dr. Hudson to address in our so far aborted Patreon video chats is an accurate estimate of genuine GDP as IMO Shadowstats's John Williams doesn't do a critical enough accounting of all the items that don't contribute and also take away from GDP.

In terms of genuine productive output, the Outlaw US Empire's been in a very long recession as much of the ability to produce productive items is now offshored and most of what's said to "contribute" to GDP is financial shenanigans that aren't productive whatsoever. That's why so many are no longer in the workforce and Real Unemployment continues to hover @25%--and that's a Depression figure.

The actual headline ought to read: With No Clear Substitution Plan While Ceasing Imports of Russian Oil, Will the Outlaw US Empire's Recession Deepen? The answer ought to be clear--Yes, it will worsen

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 21:19 utc | 168

#Mehl (flour) is trending in Geman twitter currently. Ppl sharing their experience with customers buying basic goods (eg flour, rapeseed oil, toilette paper) in huge quantities. It seems like that Germans are already preparing for the coming shortages. If this is just alarmism or for real, who knows? Maybe those who make fun of them are the ones who will be late. At least the oldest generation in Germany still remembers the shortages and hunger after WW2. And this experiences stays with you for the rest of your life.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 11 2022 21:28 utc | 169

@120 pretzelattack

LOLOLOL! HA!

Posted by: Circe | Mar 11 2022 21:33 utc | 170

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 11 2022 19:46 utc | 127

Who is being quoted, here?

Posted by: AntiSpin | Mar 11 2022 21:33 utc | 171

Lex talionis: hehe yeah :)

Brother Ma: yeah speculation is rife :)

Would be interesting to know the flight path in detail (did it fly in a straight line? Geographically it's could be a possibility).

Quoting the last few paragraphs of an RT article:

"The aircraft that crashed in Zagreb’s Jarun neighborhood on Thursday night is widely presumed to have been a Soviet-designed Tu-141 Strizh reconnaissance drone. Hranj declined to assign ownership of the unmanned plane, stating that this type of aircraft was “relatively old-fashioned and widespread in the Soviet Union since the last century.”

A Tu-141 weighs about six tons, has a speed of around 1,000 km (621 miles) per hour and a range of 1,000 km. It lands with the help of a tail-mounted parachute system. Croatian police discovered parachutes in the area of the crash.

Ukraine is the only nation that officially operates Tu-141s at the moment."

Still they do say presumed, so who knows.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Mar 11 2022 21:34 utc | 172

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 11 2022 21:28 utc | 165

People should avoid Rapeseed oil and its genetically modified version, Canola oil. It has been shown to cause macular degeneration. Olive oil is better. Just passing by, no time for a link, it's well known. Rapeseed oil is an excellent light machine oil but is not fit for human consumption. Its attraction is that insects do not attack it or like it, so it needs few insecticides.


Unintended consequences:

https://asiatimes.com/2022/03/us-sanctions-threaten-to-backfire-on-the-buck/

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-today-ukraine-blackrock-losses-russia-assets-17-billion-2022-3

https://asiatimes.com/2022/03/chinese-exporters-warned-of-russian-payment-risks/

Kamikaze sanctions in action.

Posted by: Paul | Mar 11 2022 21:44 utc | 173

@Aricoh 75

100% correct. The Israelis are now trying to distance themselves from this mess. Whether it is them selling arms to these very Nazis or being involved in the biowarfare labs. They have learned that they can utilize these useful idiots for their sinister objectives and have the perfect alibi to deny any involvement with them. Truly evil.

I just hope it comes out who is really pulling these strings. None other than the people who are trying to play innocent and naive.

Posted by: Alpi | Mar 11 2022 21:51 utc | 174

C Khosta y Alzamendi @148--

Thanks for your comment. On the reindustrialization of the FRG, that was part of a specific policy, the Marshall Plan, that aided reconstruction so Europeans could provide a market for American goods, not so they could compete with the USA. On the formation of the EU as a CIA project, I suggest reading these two sources then expanding upon what they reveal, one which also links to two. The author of #2 is clearly a biased Cold Warrior, but we must note the publication he's writing for. This article is also a good place to start.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 21:51 utc | 175

Just wanted to say thanks for keeping us updated and for some great articles. In Sweden everyone unfortunately buys into all the western propaganda.

Posted by: John | Mar 11 2022 21:56 utc | 176

@ karlof1 164
US Clearly Has No Substitute Plan After Banning Russian Oil
That's about three percent of US consumption, not much. It was heavy oil, blending stock. Oil companies need blending stock to improve the API gravity of the throughput from their refineries.
The problem is that such oil is not generally available. Other countries that might offer it include Saudi Arabia, Venezuela and Iran, all problems for the US. More info here.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 11 2022 21:59 utc | 177

Here's Germany's Foreign Minister Anna Lena Baerbock talking tough to the Serbs:

https://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/news/detail/8867

LarS

Posted by: LarS | Mar 11 2022 22:02 utc | 178

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 19:51 utc | 131

It was obvious since 2014 that with every new sanction US doesn't sanction other countries, but itself from the rest of the world.

Posted by: Abe | Mar 11 2022 22:04 utc | 179

If enough Isis headchoppers relocate to Ukraine from Idlib, it might be a good time for the Syrian army to attack Idlib.

Posted by: Chas | Mar 11 2022 22:07 utc | 180

how is the attempt to integrate finland and sweden into nato going and how can this impact the current scenario?

Posted by: Lui | Mar 11 2022 22:10 utc | 181

@177 Sweden says no thanks. They think it would be destabilizing.

Finland is still discussing it. Meanwhile they are getting a lot of Russian visitors mostly of the anti-Putin type.

Posted by: dh | Mar 11 2022 22:17 utc | 183

Amending my previous post on the panic buys (Hamsterkäufe) in Germany with some pics:

Sign Only 4 packs of flour per household
https://twitter.com/a_gay_daddy/status/1502393516110094345/photo/1

Sign: Only 3 packs of flour per houshold
https://twitter.com/drkstnr/status/1502389753316052992/photo/1

empty sugar shelves
https://twitter.com/merderfangirl/status/1502387710211858435/photo/2

empty flour shelves
https://twitter.com/Frollein20/status/1502278432343871491/photo/1

empty pasta shelves
https://twitter.com/biancarosa0304/status/1502196563887673344/photo/2

Just a small collection of pictures.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 11 2022 22:23 utc | 184

Don Bacon | Mar 11 2022 21:59 utc | 173

23 million tons of petroleum products plus 3 million tons of mostly I think Urals grade crude per month.
A large part of the petroleum products I believe were diesel. So not only does US have to replace the small amount of heavy crude required to keep some of its refineries operating, it has to make up the 23 million tons shortfall of refined products. Until that occurs the cost of diesel will keep rising in the US. There is also the greases and oils possibly in that. Fright prices will rise inline with the diesel costs. Virtually all goods in shops require diesel to get them there. Food will be the big one. Crop growing is reliant on diesel for planting and harvesting and that gets the double whammy of sky rocketing fertilizer costs.

Fertilizer prices are rising due to world wide shortage with both China and Russia/Belarus stopping or being sanctioned out of fertilizer exports. If even at much higher prices if insufficient fertilizer can be obtained in the short term, crops will produce less. If this occurs that will also drive up prices on top of diesel and fertilizer costs.

Apart from a very tiny minority, most are reliant on buying food from shops. That is going to hit very hard in the US in the coming months.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2022 22:36 utc | 185

Pour ceux qui n'ont pas compris le fond du conflit actuel entre "le mal et le bien" ou "le mensonge et la vérité" je les conseil de voir ce documentaire d'Oliver Stone - l'Ukraine on fire:
https://odysee.com/@JusticeNetDz:e/Oliver-Stone-Ukraine-a-l-epreuve-du-feu:5

L'eschatologue sheikh Imran Hosein avait raison en 2014, la Russie sera bientôt obligée d'intervenir en Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsDuOUsLBks&ab_channel=IlmuAkhiruzzaman

Pourquoi on est arrive la, c'est simple et clair : ∑ silences 911 + ∑ silences covid = ↑WW3Nuk :
https://odysee.com/@JusticeNetDz:e/La-cause-du-covid-ww3-Le-silence911:1
Assenge nous a déjà aussi prévenu:
https://odysee.com/@JusticeNetDz:e/Julian-Assange-sur-medias:5
Leur regle est : Celui qui dira la Verite sera tue ou Arrete:
https://odysee.com/@JusticeNetDz:e/La-regle-Celui-qui-dira-la-Verite-sera-tue-ou-Arrete:9

Maintenant on est ici "la Russie est en guerre avec les usa", le pire est à venir, préparons nous à ne pas faire taire la vérité au moins nous mourrons en Martyres.

Posted by: Ahmed | Mar 11 2022 22:41 utc | 186

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Mar 11 2022 14:58 utc | 3

Russia losing the propaganda war? I beg to differ. As per TASS:

“ The survey center said, "77.4% of Russians said they trust Vladimir Putin, which is 4.4% more than the results of a poll from February 21-27. The level of approval of the Russian president's work was 74.6% (plus 4.2% over the previous survey)."”

Russia losing the propaganda war in the so called west? That’s not where the battle stands.


Are you sure? How do you picture this information war? What are its goals and how does it work?

I can tell you what it isn't. It's not a popularity contest. Thinking this works like Eurovision is near sighted. Popular support is decisive only if it has a tangible effect on the conflict itself.

Let's look at it this way. What is more likely to threaten Imperial belligerence: the popularity of the Russian president in Russia, or the unpopularity of foreign policy in the West?

Posted by: robin | Mar 11 2022 22:41 utc | 187

A further though on the 3 million tons of Urals grade crude. Most look at that small amount and think its nothing. But, that heavy oil is required to mix with other crudes to create a grade suitable for a number of US refineries that have been designed for a specific grade.

The percentage of Urals used in the lend would need to be known for a full understanding of the loss of production. Say it is 10% = loss of 30 million tons of production/refined products

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2022 22:43 utc | 188

Putin and Xi Ping are the only true International Statesmen in all of this. They are clear and distinct thinkers and do not make decisions off the cuff, they think things through. Russia has been preparing for all of these scenarios for the past 10 years. China recently stated that Russia is its most important strategic and training partner. Xi Ping and Putin also delivered a brilliant speech not so long ago about how and why they reject the One Global Power NWO philosophy and a Unipolar world. They provided the strongest and most reasoned argument for a multipolar world. The West (the EU) and the USA have gone totally psychotic, and I mean psychotic (when you have lost all control of your touch with reality and cannot reason rationally) yep, you get Sectioned under the Mental Health Act if you are diagnosed as being psychotic and for ever almost. It is quite obvious that they haven't given any thought whatsoever imposing a series of ridiculous, random sanctions against Russia over the period of a couple of weeks, totally disproportionate to the situation and also the extreme hypocrisy as to their own actions in Libya, Syria Iraq etc. They are wild, hypocritical and are founded in pure, extreme hatred, vitriol and vengeance against Russia because it has the gaul to go against the WEF agenda, against the West and against their interests. It is unbelievable that they can't sit around a table with Putin and negotiate this. Putin has the moral high ground and right on his side. The West has irrationality, hatred and vengeance on theirs. Putin doesn't do short-term I think, as bloggers here have said, he is committed to the law and the use of legal processes, which he has been trying to do for the past 8yrs and they ignored him. BTW on UK Column News today I watched a video clip of Victoria Nuland (3rd in line for command of the USA if anything happens to Biden or Harris). My goodness, how she ever got and sustained a career in politics is questionable. As the truth about the bio weapons lab was not on her side, she rambled, bumbled incoherently and had to resort to blaming them all on Putin. Watch it, the lovely Patrick Heningsen was profoundly concerned, that much you could see.

Posted by: Jo Dominich | Mar 11 2022 22:44 utc | 189

In an iterated prisoner's dilemma tit-for-tat is the optimal strategy.

Posted by: TJ | Mar 11 2022 22:49 utc | 190

PeterAU1 @181

Industrial farming is not flexible. If they can’t do it the way they know to do it and if they can’t see how they make money — they simply won’t plant. No plant, no harvest. It is not about smaller yields without fertilizer, or with less fertilizer, it is about having a crop at all.

Russia is busy telling Ukrainian farmers to be ready to plant. Russia will get them all that is needed and do it on an expedited schedule. Nothing like that is possible in West.

The most historically certain way to have political upheaval is food inflation/food shortage. Let’s go, Brandon.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 11 2022 22:49 utc | 191

Don Bacon @173--

Thanks for your reply! The real killer is the cutting off of diesel imports, which is what most heavy crudes are used to produce. So the bulk oil amount is wildly misleading. I track diesel cost for a reason--it powers what remains of the Real Economy. Today, the national average is $5.132/gal up from $3.045 a year ago--an almost 70% rise. During that last fuel crisis when diesel hit $5/gal, the truckers parked their rigs. The Outlaw US Empire imported 275.21KBPD of Distillate fuel oil (diesel) during January, while the figure for February was much higher, 424.00KBPD here. "The rise in [Russian] imports is linked to a great extent to a shortage of sulphurous crude (with a sulphur content higher than 0.5 %) caused by sanctions imposed on the Venezuelan company PDVSA, under which oil shipments from Venezuela to the United States declined from 506,000 bpd to 82,000 bpd in 2019. And to zero in 2020-2021.

"The reduction in imports created risks for U.S. refineries located in the PADD 3 – the Petroleum Administration for Defense District No. 3, which account for about half of the U.S. oil refining capacity." This article explains why. Finding good current data is hard. The best is from early February reporting about 5 million barrels of diesel imported from Russia in one shipment that arrived over several days, which is admittedly vague. All current price charts look like the infamous hockey stick, with diesel close to becoming vertical. That's why the desperation talks with Venezuela and Iran.

Before one begins an offensive, one usually checks to see if enough critical strategic supplies are on hand and in reserve. The way the USA's retail system is arranged, the current rail network is completely inadequate, which is why trucks are relied upon so heavily.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 22:54 utc | 192

This one ia allegedly a leaked document of cooperation between ukrainian labs and american defense department

https://aftershock.news/books/Ukraina_especially_dangerous_pathogens.pdf

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 11 2022 23:07 utc | 193

Peter AU1 @184--

Precisely. Germany had lots of airplanes in 1944-5, but not enough av-gas to fly them as much as they wanted, same with diesel for their tanks. The Outlaw US Empire got addicted to low cost hydrocarbons and designed its society and distribution systems around that plentitude. But now they're getting scarce and the costs are soaring well beyond what the "planning" (if you want to call it that) was designed for. Kunstler may finally see his End of Suburbia materialize before he departs the world.

Abe @175--

Thanks for your reply! Yes, that's a good way to see it. Each move the Outlaw US Empire makes causes further alienation and isolation from the world outside of its vassals.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 11 2022 23:07 utc | 194

The BBC used to have credibility. Today it is a useless propagandist outlet for blatant misinformation presented as news. It might be a cliche but the first victim of war is the truth. And the primary purveyor of lies is the BBC.

https://johnplatinumgoss.com/2022/03/11/bbc-propaganda-disturbing-images-of-war/

Posted by: John Goss | Mar 11 2022 23:08 utc | 195

And as the documents above get leaked
and as Russia convenes UN SC sessions

...YouTube sharply escalate anti-russian censorship, basically promising to destory all the videos from Ukrain except western whitelisted ones.

Coincidences theory...

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 11 2022 23:11 utc | 196

b "I wonder why Putin is waiting to make them public. Does he want to keep them in reserve?

Jo Dominich "Putin and Xi Ping are the only true International Statesmen in all of this. They are clear and distinct thinkers and do not make decisions off the cuff, they think things through. "

About a week ago, Lavrov said the US/UK over the top response, the total warfare launched against Russia that will result in great costs possibly the destruction of those that launched it, the seeming insanity of the response- is unexpected. US is still the pigeon that craps on the chess board. Putin mentioned that what is occurring now, the US/UK response is warfare.
To me, this is hybrid warfare operation Barbarossa.
In play to date is assorted US proxies in direct kinetic warfare against RF. Full spectrum economic and information warfare - extending to encourage hated to all ethnic Russians, even if they are citizens of other country's and the shutting down, criminalizing of any voices that are not fully aboard the narrative, and now as we have seen the attempted covert use of biological warfare against the RF which may yet still be used.

At the moment I think Russia is reassessing the situation, in light of what they now have solid evidence for in US moves in Ukraine and the accompanying over the top US response to RF moves.
I think Russia will get its own house in order - as in aligned and able to survive its next moves.

Back to b's question "I wonder why Putin is waiting to make them public. Does he want to keep them in reserve?"
Putin as president of the Russian federation always does the unexpected.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2022 23:12 utc | 197

"Close to 450 extremist Arab and foreign nationals have arrived in Ukraine from Idlib to fight against Russia's forces, less than only three days after they left Syria, passing through Turkey." How interesting. Turkey again playing both sides. Erdogan's "efforts" to bring the two sides together (Labrov-Kuleva meeting in Antañya is sheer hypocrisy). After the war, hopefully Putin will remember those who spoke with forked tongues. They are even worse than the NATO vassals.

Posted by: Jaime | Mar 11 2022 23:16 utc | 198

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2022 23:12 utc | 193

Also, some monitoring of political events and news in USA shown some importance that was given to weekend news cycles.

There could be some developments in domestic politics, but in workdays ppl do not have time/stamina to dig into it...
...then om Friday night some "random lunatic" makes a bloodbath in some night club, and all the 'Murica discusses how youth can safely relax. The much more important politician events totally washed down the memory hole.

So, just a hypothesis, Kremlim could make slow leaking exactly to schedule most entertaining materials surface evening Friday to evening Saturday.

YT's desperate pulling the plug might indicate they do not know what exactly Kremlin can/plan to leak, but are very scared and could not imagine any counterplay, only "banhammer option"

Posted by: Arioch | Mar 11 2022 23:19 utc | 199

Turkey straddling both sides will always play both sides; geography is destiny

Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 11 2022 23:26 utc | 200

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