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February 11, 2022

When Cruelty Is The Point - U.S. Decides To Kill More Afghan People

Last summer, after decades of killing Afghans in Afghanistan, the U.S. government decides to move its occupation forces out of that country.

The operation was badly prepared, (or intentionally sabotaged by the Pentagon), and ended in chaos. More than 120,000 Afghans, most of them higher educated ones, were also taken abroad. This alone was severely damaging to Afghanistan.

The U.S. also froze the $7+ billion reserve funds of the central bank of Afghanistan which have been held in New York. This is the Afghan peoples money. Part of the total funds are reserves that private Afghan banks had deposited with the central bank. It is money that ordinary Afghan people had deposited at those private banks.

Now the Biden administration, ignoring the various owners of those funds, has decided to steal all of them.

This is vengefulness at the most inhuman level:

President Biden will start to clear a legal path for certain relatives of victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to pursue $3.5 billion from assets that Afghanistan’s central bank had deposited in New York before the Taliban takeover, according to officials familiar with internal deliberations.

At the same time, Mr. Biden will issue an executive order invoking emergency powers to consolidate and freeze all $7 billion of the total assets the Afghan central bank kept in New York and ask a judge for permission to move the other $3.5 billion to a trust fund to pay for immediate humanitarian relief efforts and other needs in Afghanistan, the officials said.

Afghanistan is in dire need of those reserve funds.

As its central bank had no access to the funds it could not intervene when the Afghan currency devaluated after the U.S. and its minions had fled. It has made it impossible for the government and the people to acquire food from abroad. The United Nations and many other organization have warned that millions of people in Afghanistan are in imminent danger of dying for lack of food. A new huge wave of refugees is fleeing the country and is likely to destabilize its neighbors.

It was a bad move to freeze that money. It is unscrupulous to steal it. It also illegal under U.S. law which is why the Biden administration decided to fudge it:

It is highly unusual for the United States government to commandeer a foreign country’s assets on domestic soil. Officials are said to have discussed a two-part legal process for Mr. Biden to engineer that outcome.

First, he would use emergency powers under a provision of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to “direct and compel” that a foreign country’s assets in the United States be moved to a segregated account. That would block them, but the Afghanistan central bank would still own them.

Second, officials have discussed then using a provision of the Federal Reserve Act that permits disposing of property belonging to the central bank of a foreign nation — so long as it has the blessing of someone the secretary of state has recognized as being “the accredited representative” of that foreign country.

But deciding who qualifies as such a person, at a time when Afghanistan’s former government no longer exists, has raised significant complications. It remained unclear what solution Biden administration officials had settled on and whether the name of any person or people they deem as such would be disclosed for security reasons, like possibly endangering family members still in Afghanistan.

The 'accredited representative' will simply be claimed to exist and to have given 'the blessing' but will never be named.

To give money that is owned by Afghanistan's central bank and is needed to help Afghan people to relatives of people who died in 9/11 is completely unjustified. The Taliban who are now ruling Afghanistan are not the same ones who ruled the country previously. Moreover no Taliban ever knew beforehand that 9/11 was planned by some people who at that time lived in Afghanistan. They are not responsible for 9/11.

Moreover the money is simply not theirs. Central bank assets are owned by the central bank not by a ruling government of whatever kind. The U.S. Federal Reserve is not holding Democrats or Republican money nor is the Afghan central bank holding Taliban money.

In an interview, Dr. Mehrabi — who is also an economics professor at Montgomery College in Maryland [and a longtime member of the Afghan central bank board] — contended that the central bank should be seen as independent of the now Taliban-led Afghan government. He said that many civil servants there knew how to run the bank, and that depriving the bank of the funds it needed to maintain price stability would lead to runs on commercial banks, mass defaulting on loans and ultimately broader disaster.

“You’re talking about moving toward a total collapse of the banking system,” he said. “I think it’s a shortsighted view.”

But an administration official familiar with the government deliberations argued that the “sad reality” was that even if the central bank regained access to the assets in New York and moved them all into Afghanistan for one last injection of capital, it would not solve the deeper structural problems that have sent the country’s economy spiraling into ruin.

The Afghan people shall just die from the 'structural problems' that have been caused by the U.S. occupation, its abrupt end, and are now caused by the theft of  their money.

Posted by b on February 11, 2022 at 15:53 UTC | Permalink

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There's really nothing else you can add to what you have said B.
How many Trillions wasted.
And this is the salve/ solution?

Posted by: Jpc | Feb 11 2022 16:04 utc | 1

USA is a criminal entity. Probably from the start.

Posted by: hes | Feb 11 2022 16:06 utc | 2

The U.S. is the most cruel country in the world

1. We are stealing Afghan property, this is not aid. It is the lifeblood for their economy.

2. We stole gasoline being shipped to Venezuela under the same circumstances. We deprived Venezuelans to compensate wealthy Americans based on allegations they had nothing to do with.

3. We are now giving more air defense to both the UAE and the Saudis against Yemen but not to Yemen because 3 people in the UAE were killed vs hundreds of Yemenis in the same time frame. We are on the verge of designating the Houthis terrorists again which will accelerate starvation in Yemen while we point our finger at China for 'genocide'.

I apologize to every atheist I ever met. The earth should have swallowed up the likes of Pompeo long ago.

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Feb 11 2022 16:08 utc | 3

Thanks for the posting b

Yes, empire is demented and acting cruelly. In this case they are moving the levers of global "private" (it just looks public) finance in a manner that should be clear to the world as being illegal as well as immoral.

Biden is also sending F-22's to protect UAE from Yemen/Houthi harm and SA killed a record number of civilians in Yemen last month

As ugly as it looks, I feel a global smack down coming and sure hope it is soon.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 11 2022 16:09 utc | 4

the Federal Reserve Act that permits disposing of property belonging to the central bank of a foreign nation — so long as it has the blessing of someone the secretary of state has recognized as being “the accredited representative” of that foreign country.

But deciding who qualifies as such a person, at a time when Afghanistan’s former government no longer exists, has raised significant complications.

I hear that Juan Guaidó is not too busy these days. Perhaps he could step up for an encore...

Posted by: farm ecologist | Feb 11 2022 16:09 utc | 5

Sweden imported and flew in more than 3000 Afghans after the Americans chickened out, not the educated variety but rather simple criminals, rapists and the lowest of scum you can imagine.

Small quite rural towns get their share of horrible cutthroats and Afghans raping small boys openly in the streets. The regime havn't had enough though and pledges to take in at least 120.000 more young angry medieval minded Afghans this year.

Posted by: whazzo | Feb 11 2022 16:24 utc | 6

I am so waiting for the post 'rules based order' proposed by China and Russia, to take the criminal empire down a peg or two. Humanity depends on it.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 11 2022 16:28 utc | 7

Add to the list of ongoing thefts of assets belonging to another county are the 100.5 billion dollars worth of oil from Syria, that the US continues to steal, as well as the wheat the Syrians need for food.

Theft has become an US way of life, with no consequences for themselves. Except for starving the poorest.
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THe identity of the “the accredited representative” will remain secret for "security" reasons, and anyway Hunter Biden is already occcupied.

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 11 2022 16:33 utc | 8

Which country would now leave any gold deposits in the hands of say the US or UK, Venezuelan gold languishes in a English bank, and no doubt plans are afoot to steal that as well.

Biden will dig out Hamid Karzai or Ashraf Ghani to give them the blessing to steal the gold, as for giving it to 9/11 families and survivors, we know that Afghani's didn't commit the crime.

The US has through its belligerent foreign policies stole assets from countries all over the globe, under the guise of bringing democracy or fighting terrorism, stealing Afghan gold in the US should be an easier exercise, and many palms will be greased along the way to make this happen, and I doubt the 9/11 families and survivors will receive what Biden says they will.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 11 2022 16:38 utc | 9

Pretty much every piece of news that comes out of America can be summed up by the realization that America is a death cult that demands human sacrifice.

Posted by: Reno | Feb 11 2022 16:40 utc | 10

The world can see that the UKUSA yakuza are essentially an organized crime syndicate. No wonder so many countries have been repatriating their gold from New York and London over the past few years, including many NATO members (Germany, Netherlands Poland, Hungary, Romania, Turkey, etc.)

The poor people of Venezuela, too, were blatantly stiffed by the UKUSA yakuza. And as Michael Hudson's excellent article from a few days ago shows, the UKUSA seek to keep Europe as their captive cash cow to be milked.

Steal the gold, the reserves, the oil, and the best and brightest human capital, and leave behind a husk of a country mired in suffering. How many countries has the US done this to? (Venezuela, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.)

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Feb 11 2022 16:41 utc | 11

Moreover no Taliban ever knew beforehand that 9/11 was planned by some people who at that time lived in Afghanistan.
It wasn't. It was planned and executed in the US.

The idea that the mythical 19 Saudis with box cutters with 4 planes, 2 causing 3 sky scrapers to disappear in their own footprint, one plane impossibly cork-screwing into the Pentagon killing everybody that were investigating the theft of a trillion USD and another plane disappearing into the ground without a trace is ludicrous.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 11 2022 16:49 utc | 12

You say cruel, I say evil. Capitalism is Greed which is the root of all evil.

And Nor @ 12 - right on.

Posted by: gottlieb | Feb 11 2022 17:00 utc | 13

After China reunited, US may steal hundreds of billions of dollars of TW's banks, corps etc. store in US, which belongs to all chinese people.

Posted by: Russell | Feb 11 2022 17:02 utc | 14

@ Jpc
How many trillions wasted.
Wasted? The money ended up in a lot of pockets, including some Afghan ones. It's a principal feature of all US wars.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 11 2022 17:12 utc | 15

Thanks for the update, b. This is brutal. Is there really no international mechanism available to prevent this?

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 11 2022 17:15 utc | 16

If soulless monsters had power over Washington
the policies would not be any worse.

Posted by: librul | Feb 11 2022 17:17 utc | 17

I'm not surprised at all. If ISIS and the Americans themselves are stealing oil and burning wheat fields in Syria in order to boost famine and poverty in order to force the Al Assad government to resign, why wouldn't they do similarly in Afghanistan?

That's XXI century brutality. Afghans won't be able to recover this money. Hope that other Euroasian countries step up and help them avoid famine.

On the long run, this is a self-inflicted wound to the American financial system. Why would foreigners keep their money in the US if changes in their countries can make their funds seized by the American autorities? Any country could join the Venezuelan-Afghan list overnight, and their nationals be stripped of their funds regardless of their ties with the new administration.

Posted by: Andres | Feb 11 2022 17:22 utc | 18

"The operation was badly prepared, (or intentionally sabotaged by the Pentagon)"

There is no need to equivocate.

Modus Operandi

Posted by: librul | Feb 11 2022 17:25 utc | 19

EVERYTHING the AngloZionist psychopathic empire does, whether killing half a million Iraq children because "its worth it", starving Houthis or Afghani children, ignoring treaties and contracts because doing so provides some temporary advantage, promoting every type of evil and deviancy, ALL of these boil down to the ethical essence of the Empire: following and promoting Talmudic Family Values where decisions taken will always be those which advance the chosen over anyone else.

Posted by: Simplicius | Feb 11 2022 17:28 utc | 20

Any foreign country or foreign entity foolish enough to deposit funds in USA institutions doesn't realize that US dollars are essentially crypto currency, albeit officially sanctioned crypto. As such it can disappear with a few keystrokes, and foreign assets, both national and owned by persons, have been stolen over and over by the US Govt.
Iranian assets have been stolen and in some cases disbursed to Americans who've won default judgments from US courts for "damages".
There's an old story I read long ago about how, when Franco's forces were winning the Spanish civil war, the "legitimate govt" sent the central bank's gold to the USSR for "safe keeping" on a ship bound for Sevastopol. Stalin was said to have joked to his inner circle about what fools the Spaniards were and how they'd never see their gold again. And they didn't.

Posted by: erik | Feb 11 2022 17:33 utc | 21

Nothing new nor surprising here. Usual and probably NOT the worse behavior of the criminal gangsters in Washington.

Posted by: d dan | Feb 11 2022 17:34 utc | 22

What amazes me is the scale. Even a gangster should have standards.

Some mafioso claiming control of the whole New York city can not be seen knocking off nickels from homeless beggars or even personally pimping a girl in a street. It would be an instant loss of face. It should be done by subordinates many many levels beneath him, or perhaps even by other gangs.

"The sole hyperpower" could vulture upon hundreds of billions, but stealing $7B is just a petty theft and has to be done by petty thieves.

Frankly, this level of petty greediness was punchline of okd stereotypical jokes about Jews. But money don't stink, even petty money, do they?

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 11 2022 17:40 utc | 23

@ Norwegian # 12

9/11 was planned in Israel and executed in the US with the full support of the US government. Reference 'the dancing Israelis, and follow the trail from there.

Posted by: Black Cloud | Feb 11 2022 17:41 utc | 24

I hate this fucking country, keeping in mind that 48% of U.S. voters elected a demented career warmongering rapist as their President, and 44% voted for a demented neophyte warmongering rapist who lost the election. Right after graduating H.S. a buddy and I were all for leaving the U.S., but we just didn't have the $ or work skills to do it.

Posted by: Trisha | Feb 11 2022 17:45 utc | 25

Funny how EVERYTHING that Iran has been saying about America since 1979, and Iranian religious scholars since the 1950s, is becoming common global knowledge in the 2020s.

Posted by: nme | Feb 11 2022 18:00 utc | 26

How much was the value of all the military equipment that the US left in Afghanistan?
That the Taliban now has, and the US right wing (fake) cried about?

I bet it’s somewhere around 7 billion $
(wink wink)

Posted by: Cadence calls | Feb 11 2022 18:02 utc | 27

This is typical US behaviour they have a solid track record in stealing other nations assets. Look at the missing Iraq or Libya gold. The US left behind 80B in weapons in Afghanistan so maybe the government could sell some of that gear to recover the loss.

Posted by: Moon Dog | Feb 11 2022 18:08 utc | 28

@ 28
80 billion of materiel is a lot more than I thought it was.

But still, I think this freeze, at least partially, explains what just happened.
It was an arms deal packaged into the withdrawal as part of negotiations the CIA and Taliban had.
Just a theory, but it makes sense to me.

Posted by: Cadence Calls | Feb 11 2022 18:17 utc | 29

Reminds me of Smaug. I described the Outlaw US Empire as a serial criminal addicted to its criminality for which there's no cure other than life imprisonment or execution. I see no reason to alter any of those words as its ongoing behavior lends further credibility to my description. At the end of my article dealing with the Lavrov-Truss encounter I provided a prescription for dealing with the Outlaws that IMO is the only way that avoids open warfare, although it promises to be a complex and time-consuming effort.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 11 2022 18:19 utc | 30

No need to Northerner!
We're in the rules based system.
It's all fine!
All legit!

Thanks for the update, b. This is brutal. Is there really no international mechanism available to prevent this?

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 11 2022 17:15 utc | 16

Posted by: Jpc | Feb 11 2022 18:23 utc | 31

@Black Cloud | Feb 11 2022 17:41 utc | 24

True. I was keeping it short.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 11 2022 18:30 utc | 32

When will people start to realize crypto solves this ?

Posted by: DF | Feb 11 2022 18:32 utc | 33

The Taliban knew it wasn’t going to get those $$$ back.
The Taliban govt is just another international mafia outfit, albeit a small one.
Once the US had those deposits, years ago, it wasn’t giving it back.
So the Taliban made the best deal they could get.
And since the US loves selling war materials, this was an easy one.

Sure, the US will media out the story about 9/11 and humanitarian recompense.
Think about it. What lie would you make up if you were the US?

Posted by: Cadence calls | Feb 11 2022 18:33 utc | 34

@10, Yes I had considered that exact phrase too, the United States as a Death Cult.

Posted by: Lonkal | Feb 11 2022 18:36 utc | 35

Simplicius @20.

You have it. Your finger is on the main wire.

Posted by: Donnie | Feb 11 2022 18:43 utc | 36

@ DF | Feb 11 2022 18:32 utc | 33 who wrote
"
When will people start to realize crypto solves this ?
"

Crypto does not do anything. Public finance tools instantiated and operated by sovereign countries solve this. They may use crypto currency as a tool but crypto, in and of itself, has no inherent power to tie your shoe.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 11 2022 18:44 utc | 37

@21

You don't know what crypto-currency is, the US dollar is certainly not crypto-currency. I know it's fashionable to talk down all this weird scary computery funny-money stuff, loud new things are frightening. It's a shame the Afgan CB didn't have it all in bitcoin actually, then they'd still have their funds and wouldn't have considered it normal to have some dodgy character like the US in control of it in the first place. But all that is of a different world, not this one, not quite yet.

Posted by: Lonkal | Feb 11 2022 18:47 utc | 38

Perp is considered armed and extremely dangerous, wanted in numerous crimes including armed robbery, murder, larceny, fraud, trafficking. Members of the public are advised not to approach.

https://imgur.com/XLIo9BO

Posted by: Lonkal | Feb 11 2022 19:13 utc | 39

I agree with psychohistorian that a slapdown is sorely overdue. The actions of the US and UK in the world have such a daily toxicity that intervention of some kind must take place and soon. It needs to have both symbolic and strategic significance to the extent that the Anglosphere are stopped short. Something that will send a shudder through the bureaucracies who enact the policies of Mis-Trusst, Blinkered, Bojo and Brandon such they pull them aside and explain that significance in clear terms.

But what? It has to be 'military-technical' because only that's what bullies understand. The US needs to lose a carrier. And the pommies need a lesson in obsolescence.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 11 2022 19:13 utc | 40

As others have pointed out, the best evidence now shows that 11/9/01 was planned by conspirators within the deep state 'elite' of zionistan-in-Palestine, and carried out with the cooperation of conspirators within the ruling deep state 'elite' of the US. No need to go on pretending there's any truth at all in the still-official story about 'nineteen jihadis'. Only the brain-dead and the terminally uninformed still buy that sieveful of bullshit.

Maybe the best way to speak of the US, and its arse-licking, yapping attack-chihuahua the ukstate, is in a simple acronym, which illustrates both graphically and verbally the relationship between the two disgusting entities: USuk - pronounced 'You suck!'

England has been an imperial armed-robbery thief state for centuries, and still is via the City of London, nothing new there; its proteges in NAmerica followed suit, from the beginning. The sooner they both get taken down seriously by the rising Russia/China/BRI World Island formation, as the Anglozionist empire enters its final collapse stage, the better.

Posted by: Rhisiart Gwilym | Feb 11 2022 19:19 utc | 41

@ Patroklos | Feb 11 2022 19:13 utc | 40 with the comment about the needed slapdown

I think that Syria/Iraq/Golan Heights are the ares we will see it in. According to the law based order, empire is not suppose to be in those places. According to the rules based order they are there.

What I wrote earlier is what the UN will say when the red tents are put out in Syria and empire comes wailing to the UNSC is what will outline the next step in our species (d)evolution

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 11 2022 19:20 utc | 42

It's how the Christian west operates. Go way back. The Fourth Crusade sacked Constantinople and stole everything they could get their hands on, including the four horsemen adorning San Marco Plaza in Venice. Inca and Aztec gold went to Spain. The wealth of India went to England. More recently, Libya's gold went to Washington, followed by Iraq's and Ukraine's, while Venezuela's gold is sitting in London.
Meanwhile, Russia and China are buying all the gold they can get their hands on. Of course they are. It's how the world turns.

Posted by: Hal Duell | Feb 11 2022 19:27 utc | 43

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 11 2022 19:20 utc | 42

I think you're correct in that assessment. Russia thus far seems to be all about the legalities.

Although I would love to see a good slapdown as much as anyone here, as that would satisfy my more visceral nature, I do somehow think that taking the West down financially would be more appropriate. To wipe that smug, grinning visage off of the faces of the practitioners of the financial legerdemain that is currently barely disguised thuggery would certainly be worth the price of admission.

I also believe that the tents in Syria may be both red and black. H/T to Rufus Arrr

Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Feb 11 2022 19:34 utc | 44

Too depressing for words

Posted by: RZ | Feb 11 2022 19:38 utc | 45

@ Digital Spartacus | Feb 11 2022 19:34 utc | 44 with the desire to see the West taken down financially.

You know I agree with that....grin

My current bet is on a twofer

1. Military checkmate in Syria that forces empire out of Syria and the rest of the way out of Iraq

2. The plug is pulled on the manipulated global markets and the blame for the demise will be focused on China/Russia et al
I expect that gambit to fail and then the waters get real murky.....

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 11 2022 19:46 utc | 46

That money was sent from Afghanistan to the US invading/occupying force "according to officials familiar with internal deliberations." Who sent it? Was it (for example) Hamid Karzai? Why was it sent? What was gained by sending it? . . .There must have been expectations that Afghanistan would never see the money again, so getting half of it is a plus.
Regarding US cruelty, it has never been of interest to keep track of the people killed/injured/displaced in US wars. The US specialty has been aerial bombing, euphemistically called "airstrikes," which affected an unknown number of Afghans. People have also been starved, as in Iraq. War is hell but hey, it pays well.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 11 2022 19:49 utc | 47

I guess a route is to hold all parties and their beneficiaries as conspirators to grand larceny.

Wanted posters for Biden, his family and advisors across the whole world - arrest and extradite to Afghanistan to stand trial and be punished. Or an international court.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 11 2022 20:00 utc | 48

A letter signed by dozens of Congress members was sent to the president a few weeks ago which hopefully will have a positive reaction.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 11 2022 20:04 utc | 49

psychohistorian and others wanting to see the Outlaw US Empire receive a "smack-down"--

In my description @30, Smaug is merely an individual dragon that's relatively easy to corner and slay. The Outlaw US Empire isn't the same; and while I certainly want to see Syria and Iraq freed from their occupations, I wouldn't consider the removal of the stormtroopers a "smack-down." IMO, the fulfilling the term requires a strategic defeat, like expulsion from South Korea, Germany [would need to leave NATO] or Japan with those nations then overtly joining the global coalition forming around Russia and China.

Each journey begins with small steps. IMO, China and Russia embarked on their trek in 2001, but didn't become 100% committed to it until 2014, and there're many obstacles to overcome. We'd all like instant gratification, but that's not going to happen; so, we must discipline ourselves to deal with the Long Game, knowing that it will actually save lives despite the ongoing casualties.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 11 2022 20:10 utc | 50

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 11 2022 20:10 utc | 50

I completely agree that history moves very slowly; but we can certainly also agree with Vladimir Ilyich Lenin when he said "there decades when nothing happens and weeks when decades happen". History is extraordinarily rapid when it does move: I am reading Chris Clark's "SleepWalkers" on the July-August 1914 crisis. Sure, very long in the formation (1848-1914) but when that avalanche began... well we're all historians here right? Centuries were compressed into those weeks.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 11 2022 20:19 utc | 51

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 11 2022 20:10 utc | 50

I meant to add: any number of things here could be our Franz Ferdinand moment when no one can stop those dominoes falling...

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 11 2022 20:22 utc | 52

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 11 2022 20:10 utc | 50

I don't think that anyone is suggesting that is a singular dragon. Everyone has their own interpretation as to what consitutes a smack down in any event. And I hardly think that removing the uninvited from Syria and Iraq is a smack down. Again, it's about the legalities.

Patroklos sees it correctly as an avalanche when it does begin.

Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Feb 11 2022 20:27 utc | 53

the system operates as intended

Posted by: Rae | Feb 11 2022 20:33 utc | 54

They are sick in ways that cannot be described

Posted by: Les7 | Feb 11 2022 20:34 utc | 55

It's off the subject, but US cruelty is also involved, and they may use Afghan mercenaries as part of it. My guess with all of the sabre rattling is that the yankees intend a "Sender Gleiwitz" type fake incident to incite some kind of war in the Ukraine even though the Ukrainian regime doesn't seem to be cooperating. I don't know how this would play out. It is also in a background of increasing instability in North America stemming from covid excesses.

Posted by: exiled off mainstree | Feb 11 2022 20:39 utc | 56

Yeah but Russia!

Posted by: nwwoods | Feb 11 2022 20:56 utc | 57

The truth of the matter is that the U.S., of course, is a real oligarchy, and the people of the U.S. are not worth the attention of the oligarchy. Other than the expense of the propaganda to keep them as confused as possible...

This does not excuse the people of the U.S. entity, at all. As it is entirely possible to see clearly no matter where you are. It may take some perserverance, but so be it.

Posted by: donten | Feb 11 2022 21:00 utc | 58

Posted by: hes | Feb 11 2022 16:06 utc | 2

No need for the qualifier "probably" in that statement. The USA has been a settler colonial apartheid criminal empire from the start.

You know...the kind of shit that Uncle Scam punishes other (than Israel) countries for allegedly being.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 11 2022 21:05 utc | 59

b wrote:

To give money that is owned by Afghanistan's central bank and is needed to help Afghan people to relatives of people who died in 9/11 is completely unjustified. The Taliban who are now ruling Afghanistan are not the same ones who ruled the country previously. Moreover no Taliban ever knew beforehand that 9/11 was planned by some people who at that time lived in Afghanistan. They are not responsible for 9/11.

Indeed. Just a lame excuse for "we're the bully and we're keeping your lunch money" from grade school. Same, of course, is true of Venezuela's stolen gold & money and Libya's "missing" gold and the impounded Iranian gold & money. What is it that the liberals like to say these days? "They're saying the quiet part loud now"?

Speaking of the quiet parts, anyone got a status update on Obama's closing of Gitmo? Didn't Brandon take up that initiative when he was electecated?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 11 2022 21:10 utc | 60

To put it simply: The USA are the world's main structural problem.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Feb 11 2022 21:12 utc | 61

Anglos do as anglos do; should've taken hostages. Same holds for Venezuela.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 11 2022 21:15 utc | 62

Will it still be a "Smack Down" (professional wrestling term) if the Western corpress media whores either pretend we actually won? The answer is: NOPE.

The only smack down that will get the attention of Uncle Scam and its ruling elites, mostly consisting of MIC and FIRE sector big wigs is when there is no longer a market for their weapons, wars and financial parasitism.

Barring that, the only next level is nuclear war in which case the planet and everything on it gets smacked down. The space aliens are probably selling pay-per-view on their home worlds for when that happens.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 11 2022 21:15 utc | 63

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Feb 11 2022 21:12 utc | 61

LOL, also simply put: The USA is the world's premiere shithole country.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 11 2022 21:16 utc | 64

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 11 2022 21:15 utc | 62

https://www.stripes.com/veterans/2022-02-08/marine-veteran-accused-botched-venezuela-coup-torture-4843346.html

But the Venezuelans did take hostages. And...gasp....TORTURED HIM!!! What kind of backward third world rogue nation kidnaps and tortures people for herding goats in Afghanistan walking on the streets in Italy?

Also, correction to: Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 11 2022 21:15 utc | 63

Will it still be a "Smack Down" (professional wrestling term) if the Western corpress media whores either pretend we actually won? The answer is: NOPE.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 11 2022 21:20 utc | 65

Someone more quickwitted than myself needs to hit Biden where it hurts.

In the "Irish Famine" narrative, that wasn't famine, but deliberate starvation with the forced exportation of food.

Biden is doing the same in the 21st Century.

I'm sure his mother would be oh so proud of little Joseph.

Posted by: John Cleary | Feb 11 2022 21:28 utc | 66

(Another post telling you the US is a garbage, murderous, hegemony)
I agree!

Posted by: Cadence Calls | Feb 11 2022 21:37 utc | 67

@Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 11 2022 21:20 utc | 65

At first sight, that dude is not a hostage but a spy/terrorist getting what's coming to him--or, to put it in a more good-think way, getting what even a layperson like me knows is waiting for those engaging in spying/terrorism in Latin America.

Public position: my condemnation of torture is universal! Private position: at least he isn't getting away with it; I'll sleep better now.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 11 2022 21:45 utc | 68

Re smack down: It really starts with small steps. I keep pointing to this event as a seminal one, and the significance cannot be understated. The event: Ein al-Assad attack by Iran. It exposed the paper tiger that the empire IS, and how naked and defenseless the empire’s forces ARE. I mean one soldier said on camera: No one should be treated like this. Not realizing that - this - IS exactly how the empire treats those on it’s warpath.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 11 2022 21:47 utc | 69

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 11 2022 18:19 utc | 30

Karl, here is some more material, and it is about the sequencing of the steps within Minsk.

Prince Andrew has to defend himself against the suit brought by Virginia Giufre. And he has to be seen to defend himself with his own resources.

The only asset of any substance he possesses is the ski lodge in Switzerland.
So he must sell that asset. Unfortunately that property was in dispute. It turns out that when they purchased they agreed to pay in installments. The last five million were never paid, and it has been in the courts for more than two years, while the Yorks enjoy full use of the lodge.

There is nothing they like more than to "stick it to the oiks".

Recently it was announced that he had "paid off" six point six million, and is now free to sell.

The moral? When dealing with the British, always make sure that they carry out their obligations before you carry out your own

(sorry b, just realised this is off-topic, so move if appropriate)

Posted by: John Cleary | Feb 11 2022 21:52 utc | 70

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 11 2022 21:45 utc | 68

Yep. I was being sarcastic of course in referring to the US's program of rendition to "black sites" from the streets of Europe and then torture followed by either a kangaroo military tribunal show-trial or permanent imprisonment with no charges filed.

Fuck that Marine. Even the family's back-story sounds like bullshit. I'm so sure he was just wanting to boat himself over to Aruba (or back) and that he was "framed" by some Colombians into strapping on a bunch of weapons and being in Venezuela at the exact same time as the (latest) US-backed coup attempt.

I too stand against torture, but at this point any American forces captured in any country "we" are currently sanctioning, coup-ing, regime-changing, invading or drone bombing will be tortured for all I care. Clearly everybody else playing by the rules is never going to get Uncle Scam and the UK to do the same, as it never has in the history of either country. Goes hand-in-hand with being "not agreement capable" - all the Iranians or Venezuelans or Russians or Chinese (or even North Koreans) have to do is point to our long and sordid history of broken treaties and theft at gunpoint committed both at home and abroad.

Also my apologies for taking this O/T tangent a little too far for the topic of the thread.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 11 2022 22:04 utc | 71

Excellent, excellent observation.
Trevelyan was a creature that the current crew emulate.


Someone more quickwitted than myself needs to hit Biden where it hurts.

In the "Irish Famine" narrative, that wasn't famine, but deliberate starvation with the forced exportation of food.

Biden is doing the same in the 21st Century.

I'm sure his mother would be oh so proud of little Joseph.

Posted by: John Cleary | Feb 11 2022 21:28 utc | 66

Posted by: Jpc | Feb 11 2022 22:07 utc | 72

At the moment, UK is threatening to "block" the funds of Russian oligarchs if Russia does anything they don't like in Ukraine. Note that the oligarchs stole this money from Russia and from Russians in general with the blessing of the UKUSA mafia at the time when their valet Yeltsin was looting the country. As for the other stolen countries mentioned above by b and others, all this money will end up in the coffers of the City.

Posted by: John V. Doe | Feb 11 2022 22:08 utc | 73

I recall numerous nursery rhymes where in the end everything comes crashing down, and then there's Humpty-Dumpty that couldn't be put back together after his fall. Wasn't the ejection of Adam & Eve referred to as The Fall? Did the Roman Empire Fall or slowly disintegrate? England clutches to its last bits of its imploded empire, so it hasn't altogether fallen yet.

Tom_Q_Collins @63 paints an interesting picture: ... when there is no longer a market for their weapons, wars and financial parasitism. That would be the result of what I proposed at the conclusion of my article I linked @30. In this paper delivered last year to the Valdai Club, "Moving Beyond Dollar Hegemony", Radhika Desai & Michael Hudson's segment, "World Money Beyond Creditocracy," looks at Collins's last aspect and states:

"The inherent contradictions of the system and the conflicts it generates have been maturing over the decades and they are now rapidly unravelling the dollar creditocracy."

They then detail those contradictions and in doing so reveal the utter fragility of Humpty-Dumpty. That segment is followed by their conclusion, "Emerging Alternatives":

"Other countries are seeking three types of ways out," which are then detailed, and the following judgment arrived at:

"The urge to escape from the predatory dollar creditocracy is strong, and the alternatives are today mostly China-centred. This is because, as in the period before 1914, the breakaway or challenge has to be led by countries whose financial systems are public utilities, focusing on financing production. Today, China’s financial system is the most powerful such system, and it has enough international currency reserves to withstand speculative attacks by raiders or hostile powers."

But there's more to undoing the Creditocracy that's further discussed, with the final two pages describing the sort of system China and Russia are likely working toward. The BRI's philosophy ought to be recognized by those keen to it while reading them. Most important IMO is the following reality that Russia, China, and their partners must recognize and act accordingly:

"Neither the United States nor its dollar-area satellites are likely to approve of such a region-wide financial entity. The US will not join any system that it cannot dominate and veto and refuses to submit to decisions reached by what may be thought of as a democracy of nations. If it persists in this mode, it can only watch the demise of its contradictory dollar creditocracy and the rise of alternative systems fostering productive expansion elsewhere."

The next question to ask: Will the Outlaw US Empire use warfare to negate a competitive financial system, and are those nations implementing it willing to take such a risk?

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 11 2022 22:40 utc | 74

The smack down. A few years ago a commenter at Syrianperspective.com (alas no longer with us) wrote that after Nato's destruction of Libya, Russia and China became determined that such a thing would not happen again. And their joint military/political approach has grown unstopably in strength.

For me, the belief that the smack down had started was on 30 September 2015, when Russia in a precise manner bombed the shit out of 10 or so rebel communication and command centres in Syria. Then a few days later on VV Putin's birthday there were precise missile strikes from the Caspian 1250km away. (2500km range missiles - noted countries 2500km or closer) There was wailing not only in arabic but also hebrew, turkish and various accents of english.

".. Ein al-Assad attack by Iran. It exposed the paper tiger that the empire IS.."
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 11 2022 21:47 utc | 69
Russia and China would have been supportive of that response.

I think Russia and China and Iran etc are aiming for a compliance hold in which the western powers are going to be doing what they are told.


Posted by: tucenz | Feb 11 2022 22:56 utc | 75

Uneventful end to the week. TTF natgas futures on ICE, my instant barometer of the situation for the time being, had no significant change for the week. Cheers all

Posted by: ptb | Feb 11 2022 22:58 utc | 76

OT

When watching the various officials resisting the push towards unwanted war,
it looks like people being carried over by the current's might towards the awaiting precipice.

In looking at the ballet orchestrated by the unfortunate subjects of these overwhelming forces, I am reminded of words spoken by Mrs Rothschild a few decades ago:

"If my sons want war, there shall be war."

When suffering the stridencies that belch wence, we have to remember: London is the Rothschild's den. The City is theirs and all the world's gold must be theirs.

So They push and whip and cajole as needed. But they will have their war.

All the meetings, reunions and talks are to no avail.

In view of this, preemptive strikes by VVP are warranted. London delenda est!

This is an absolute priority and Wall Street too, or wherever the Rockefellers congregate, because they to are members of this evil cult.

I rest our case


Posted by: CarlD | Feb 11 2022 23:23 utc | 77

In contradiction to b post here is New Eastern Outlook reporting on Washington's support for the Taliban government.

While the US official narrative is that they want to “help” the people of Afghanistan to survive the economic crisis looming large over Afghanistan, the US could have very well “helped” these beleaguered people with aid transferred via the UN or other dozens of NGOs and agencies working in Afghanistan. Washington, on the contrary, decided to take an alternative route that leads directly to better ties with the Afghan Taliban. The question, therefore, is: why?

Against the context of fast developing regional scenario – in particular with regards to brewing tensions between Washington and Moscow over NATO’s expansion to Ukraine, and with China over Taiwan – the US appears to have rediscovered the strategic importance for Afghanistan, even if it is led by the Taliban, to advance its interests in a more effective manner. Therefore, even though the US continues to emphasise that they will not recognise the Taliban, the steps it is actually taking point to gradual legitimation, if not outright recognition, of the Taliban as a de facto and de jure government of Afghanistan.

Speaking with forked tongue is to be expected from the US 'government', but the level of contradiction between these two is noted. Perhaps the NEO report is covering the palatable home story or USA whitewash while they loot the Afghanistan populace. If so then shame on NEO for posting this report absent of context.

The report is written by "Salman Rafi Sheikh, research-analyst of International Relations and Pakistan’s foreign and domestic affairs." The entire report omits any reference to the $billions stolen by US banks.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 11 2022 23:43 utc | 78

A letter signed by dozens of Congress members was sent to the president a few weeks ago which hopefully will have a positive reaction.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 11 2022 20:04 utc | 49

Thanks for sharing that. It is encouraging to see that at least 48 members of Congress seem to have functioning consciences.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Feb 11 2022 23:50 utc | 79

Thank you #24 Black Cloud, bizarre to see this blog still pushing the official 9/11 lie. Its been thoroughly debunked for a decade now.

Posted by: james c | Feb 11 2022 23:53 utc | 80

@ james c | Feb 11 2022 23:53 utc | 80... what part of this blog is pushing for the official 9/11 lie? i missed it and call bullshit on your post..

Posted by: james | Feb 12 2022 0:29 utc | 81

my hot take is this move should serve as a warning to the people of Iraq, it's my understanding that Iraqi oil sales are done in dollars and the account is held and managed in the US,
if the Iraqi's ever managed to get the US to leave they'd probably find their central banks assets stranded in the US and be in the same situation Afghanistan is in today,

it may also be the case that if the Ukraine decided to break free of Western influence and go neutral like Finland they'd find the US has it's claws buried deep in their financial affairs,
do you remember at the time of the coup the Russians saying there were special forces in black outfits riding around the streets of Kiev?
that turned out to be Blackwater, they went in and liberated the Ukraines gold reserves and took it back to ? for safe keeping,

I've never got a satisfactory answer to what happened to Libya's gold reserves either,

has the UK returned Venezuela's gold or given them access to it?

has the UK returned the advanced payment for Chieftan tanks it took from Iran but then cancelled the supply of the tanks after the Iranian revolution?

London & New York are increasingly becoming bad faith actors in the international financial world, no wonder people are looking to China and Russia for a fairer and squarer deal.

Posted by: Matt | Feb 12 2022 0:30 utc | 82

This would seem to be a good opportunity for China. It could find amounts like those mentioned between the seat cushions.

Posted by: ian | Feb 12 2022 0:32 utc | 83

highway robbery by the biggest bandits and war criminals on the sad face of the Planet Earth today, the USA and its nato serf-allies

a pox on both their houses

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 12 2022 0:36 utc | 84

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius


Phil Butler in his report at NEO: Who Will Be Held Accountable for America’s Ultimate Doom? examines the curious capacity of modern USA leaders to get away with it.

It is a short sharp read and worth the few minutes.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 12 2022 1:23 utc | 85

Watched the first two installments of a series of Michael Hudson videos of lectures delivered in China earlier this year that were made available to his patrons, and the content demonstrates this sort of behavior by the USA is rather old and began prior to WW1. And we could go further back in time to the Revolution and find very similar actions that all have one basis--GREED. And that greed has destroyed any moral foundation that might have existed. The only reform for the USA will be its grave.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 12 2022 1:37 utc | 86

Thanks b, and all. Think we have reached consensus; The U$A, is bereft of any behavior that uplifts humanity. Greed is rampant, and, I'm sure Ayn Rand's disciple's are smiling broadly.

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 12 2022 1:44 utc | 87

Norwegian @12

"Moreover no Taliban ever knew beforehand that 9/11 was planned by some people who at that time lived in Afghanistan."

It wasn't. It was planned and executed in the US.

Yes, with a little help from Mossad.

INDY

Posted by: Jake T | Feb 12 2022 1:59 utc | 88

Meanwhile some NED etc funded spooks masquerading as journalists under a UN banner are ‘released’ in Afghanistan.
The Groaniad has this usual MO storyline of the husband released and his wife, also a bonafide ‘NED journalist’ waiting for his return from his ‘mission’.

“ the arrests this week marked the first time they held foreign reporters for more than a few hours.

One of those detained this week is the former BBC journalist Andrew North, who has long experience working in Afghanistan, including for the website Tortoise. He had recently recorded a From Our Own Correspondent piece for the BBC as a freelancer, and had also recently written for the Guardian.

His wife, Natalia Antelava, had appealed for help to secure his freedom. “Andrew was in Kabul working for the UNHCR trying to help the people of Afghanistan. We are extremely concerned for his safety and call on anyone with influence to help secure his release,” she said.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/11/taliban-detain-british-journalist-andrew-north-in-kabul


Now what is very interesting about these characters is to try and understand who they really are rather than just reading their ‘legend’. I mean it is not hard to figure someone’s trajectory from their birth , what with all their cv’s on linked-in and like sites. It’s how the Money keeps track of its promoted slaves and their work.

So ... to the ‘wife’ and the organisation she inhabits , one of these many NED funded Mocking birdied types. Fortunately Gray Zone had them nailed years ago, quite comprehensively.

“ Launched in 2016, Coda Story markets itself as a brave counterweight to Chinese and Russian state-backed “disinformation.” This is quite ironic, because the website is itself financed by the regime-change arms of the US government and the European Union, and peddles disinformation of its own in support of Washington’s new cold war on Beijing and Moscow.”

https://thegrayzone.com/2020/08/18/us-government-funded-coda-story/

The Great Game’s players are zombie Jed players still - not knowing they are mere ghosts now fading daily and easily dealt with by a few days detention. There must be hundreds, thousands, hundreds of such groups and the barely disguised spooks who are James Bonding around the world.

Light them Up!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 12 2022 2:08 utc | 89

Conspicuous silence from the left as a workers' rebellion begin to build momentum across the west....

Posted by: Masked Marvel | Feb 12 2022 2:08 utc | 90

If you're referring to the "truckers", totally "astroturfed", just like the "tea party".

Anti-vax, is a strategy, with the mid-terms in mind.

Anti-vax, anti government same thing.. It's horse-puckey.....

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 12 2022 2:34 utc | 91

If you're referring to the "truckers", totally "astroturfed", just like the "tea party".

Anti-vax, is a strategy, with the mid-terms in mind.

Anti-vax, anti government same thing.. It's horse-puckey.....

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 12 2022 2:34 utc | 92

I bet Putin and Biden’s handlers are playing Zelensky.
They just want him out, for their own reasons.
Because Zelensky won’t get off the fence,
If I was Zelensky, I’d resign and protect my family.
Let the big dogs chews the next puppet.

The Taliban has more leverage than Zelensky, it appears.

Posted by: Cadence Calls | Feb 12 2022 2:57 utc | 93


Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Feb 11 2022 16:08 utc | 3

This is what you posted The U.S. is the most cruel country in the world

and this is what I posted US the most evil nation on earth

For the post above posting in our family WhatApps site my ABC and siblings hated me like hell.... I'm not only most hated but also treated a pariah now... no longer welcome even my nieces outside Americunt in Ozzie, Indonesia, Scotland, M'sia and Singapore...hates me equally..

Posted by: JP | Feb 12 2022 3:06 utc | 94

@ JP | Feb 12 2022 3:06 utc | 94 who wrote

"
what I posted US the most evil nation on earth
"

I posit that if you changed it to the truth of City of London Corp. (which I believe has nation within nation status) your family would not react the same way.

The US, like the UK are faces of the God of Mammon cult that is internationally owned and operated.

Rome, the "small" christian nation, may be another center of evil you may want to consider other than the US.

All that is not to excuse the theater of aggression that is currently being projected by the US puppets of empire.....the curtain needs to come down so Putin/Xi can negotiate with the real lever movers in a public forum.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 12 2022 3:19 utc | 95

vetinLA | Feb 12 2022 2:34 utc | 91

Anti-vax, is a strategy, with the mid-terms in mind.

Canada has mid-terms? I don't think so.

The next federal election in Canada needs to be on before 20 October 2025, so quite a while to go.

You're being very parochial.

Posted by: Kukulkan | Feb 12 2022 4:16 utc | 96

@Patroklos, #51:

I completely agree that history moves very slowly;

I kinda think otherwise. Recent history is moving much faster than my wildest imagination. I thought in early 90's, when the Empire took claim of the title of 'Sole Superpower', it was going to hold on to that status for a century or so. It had the power, both hard and soft facets and there was no rival that came even close. Today, 30 years later, the Empire already looks old, spent, and braindead. That's fast.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Feb 12 2022 4:36 utc | 97

I am just trying to write it from my point of view in England (We love English and American Blues Music).We mix.My wife and I are English..If we like Led Zeppelin playing in The square in Marrkecch (we go there again. I reckon we went trecking there before Robert Plant. My wife are nothing special..its just that she has this kind of blondie flirty thing, without realising it.

I didn't either - but she just kind of said throughout most of our lives - I've got a really good deal here..We need to be ready soon

Passports Check. Visas Check. Kids - Skiing Camping School Friends? Check

So I have got the next 2 weeks or so off work, and say O.K.

I look at her as she is, completely lovely and ask...

Where are We Going Now???

And she has no idea....Somewhere in Kerala?? India

We arrive and spend 2 hours at 100mph in a cab with another mad English couple who also haven't a clue where we are going

If I live this life again

I want the same wife.

I never know what we are doing next.

Tony


Posted by: tony_0pmoc | Feb 12 2022 4:37 utc | 98

@ 100; I'm referring to U$A mid-terms. Anti-vaxers and anti-government folks reside here too.

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 12 2022 4:47 utc | 99

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 12 2022 1:37 utc | 86

I think you're right K1. And that may not be for a very long time yet. My hope is that the internal collapse is faster and more bitter than any pressure coming from outside. In the meantime the bodies will keep piling up. It's all so bloody depressing.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 12 2022 4:47 utc | 100

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