Thanks b

Posted by: jo6pac | Feb 6 2022 14:17 utc | 1

UNICEF confirms six children killed, when the US killed a supposed ISIL leader in Syria, Biden claimed the mission was a success. Six Black Hawk helicopters landed US troops, who surrounded a house, the helicopters then strafed the house the troops moved in to finish the job.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 6 2022 14:26 utc | 2

" but it is quite curious that Bloomberg 'inadvertently' published the canned headline 'Russia Invades Ukraine' on February 4, 4 p.m. ET. It was also on Feb 4 that Youtube closed down the separatist accounts."

The US/UK propaganda of the last month - it's like they're all dressed up but got nowhere to go.
That recording of the phone conversation between Nuland and Pyatt - Russian intel is good. It makes me wonder how many US/UK assets in Ukraine have been quietly eliminated or neutralized as the Russians term it in the last month or so.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 6 2022 14:37 utc | 3

Wonder wondering just maybe

We’re there unreported US casualties from that Syria Turkey border SoP

https://archive.md/2bk3Q
>A Navy SEAL trainee died Friday shortly after completing the elite group’s famous Hell Week.
>Another SEAL-in-training was rushed to a Navy hospital in San Diego and was in stable condition Saturday, the Navy said in a press release. Neither of the prospective SEALs was identified.
>The sailor’s cause of death remains under investigation.
>The two SEAL trainees had completed Hell Week “several hours” before they were hospitalized, according to the Navy. They were not training when they reported medical issues.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-navy-seal-death-after-hell-week-20220205-d7dqphjsqbfalolbzbki3gj2ia-story.html

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 6 2022 14:42 utc | 4

From the top post. Now we are to get our covid news from Yahoo! Life. The article is a two minute read. Give it a look. I am all for willing suspension of disbelief. There are limits. Does anyone believe this author got care at the original Zauberberg? That he learned yogic mysteries at Lago Occhito? That after all his injuries and suffering he sat down and wrote this with no credited ghost author?

I am guessing Yahoo!Life pays by the word and the rate is not good enough to paste together any better than this.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 6 2022 14:54 utc | 5

Perhaps the recent Russia China wedding might have the US wooing Iran.
Or at least trying to reach some “understanding”.
Here’s a few updates from @AFP
> US steps on lifting sanctions are "good but not enough", Iran's foreign minister said on Saturday, hours after Washington announced it was waiving sanctions on Iran's civilian nuclear programme http://u.afp.com/wYii
> The resumption of the sanctions waivers, ended by the Trump administration in 2020, "would be essential to ensuring Iran's swift compliance" if a new nuclear deal can be reached in Vienna, a State Department official said Friday\ b
> The US State Department clarified Friday evening that sanctions would only be waived for foreign entities working on Iran's civil nuclear sector, and US sanctions will not be lifted on Iran "unless Tehran returns to its commitments under the JCPOA"

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 6 2022 14:59 utc | 6

India not aligned with the US on Ukraine:

India Tilts Toward Russia In Ukraine on Responsible Statecraft

a vote on Tuesday at the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) on whether to hold an official session to discuss the crisis saw New Delhi tilting toward Moscow.

While Russia and China expectedly cast no votes, India (along with Kenya and Gabon) did not support the U.S.-led push for the meeting by abstaining. Since nine positive votes were needed in the 15-member Council to approve the meeting, India’s abstention was effectively a rejection of the U.S.-led argument. Far from being an isolated instance, this incident is part of a larger pattern in India’s actions that presents challenges to American neo-primacy.

India has just begun a two-year innings as a non-permanent member at the UNSC, where it was widely expected to work closely with the U.S.-led coalition and take on China. But matters have turned out rather differently. The latest UNSC vote comes on the heels of another, on climate security, in which India openly voted with Russia and against the United States. During that debate, New Delhi, Moscow, and Beijing collaborated closely on strategy, including offering an alternative resolution that challenged the core premises of the U.S.-led one.

Note: not China and Russia, just Russia.
India has major geopolitical reasons to want a reliable neutrality in Russia re: China, if not an actual ally.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 15:02 utc | 7

California the "liberal" state and government fail to even vote on single payer bill.

The Left Strikes Out On Single Payer on Politico.com

The unceremonious collapse of California's single-payer health care legislation — without so much as a vote — has the left desperate for answers.

...

And despite championing single-payer during his 2018 gubernatorial run, Newsom himself took a pass on the latest bill and avoided discussing it in much detail when asked last month. The governor has slow-walked the idea since taking office in 2019, only going so far as to establish a commission that is studying various costs and options.

...

This year was supposed to be different. In 2017, Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon faced a ferocious backlash for shelving an unfunded single-payer bill. This time, Rendon worked with Kalra’s office for months to craft viable legislation, only to watch the bill shrivel in the Assembly without a floor vote.

This is all bullshit. The Democrat dominated state Congress of California has voted on and passed bills for single payer before: Schwarzenegger vetoes single payer bill in 2006 on NIH.gov

So the Democrats can pass a bill when they know it will be vetoed, but won't even allow a vote when the California governor is Democrat and campaigned on single payer?

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 15:09 utc | 8

US thinks Iran is stupid

Iran welcomes token sanctions relief but wants guarantees on aljazeera.com

Iran’s foreign minister has said the US decision to restore sanctions waiver on the civil nuclear programme was “good but not enough” as indirect talks between Tehran and Washington to revive the 2015 nuclear deal entered the final stretch.

The sanctions relief, which allowed Russian, Chinese and European companies to carry out non-proliferation work at Iranian nuclear sites, was rescinded by the Trump administration in May 2020, two years after the US walked out of the landmark deal.

...

Amirabdollahian [Iran foreign minister] reiterated that one of the “main issues” in the nuclear talks is obtaining guarantees that the US will not withdraw from the 2015 deal again.

“We seek and demand guarantees in the political, legal and economic sectors,” he said, adding that “agreements have been reached in some areas”.

...

Iran has accused the US of violating the 2015 nuclear deal even before Trump walked out of it. It has demanded the removal of all sanctions promised under the deal before it returns to nuclear compliance.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 15:11 utc | 9

RE: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 15:09 utc | 8

With the way things are, the plan most likely was created by corporate DINOs and most likely had more holes than Swiss cheese.

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 6 2022 15:16 utc | 10

Ok old hippy.
At your urging I read the yahoo piece.
I am at the point (and have been for some considerable time) where I don’t read covid anything.
Two years in, I have made up my mind. As it would seem have almost everyone else. I know what beliefs I now hold, and it’ll take a Damascus road style conversion to alter my views.
I found myself scrolling impatiently through the yahoo article.
Long covid reminds me of, I think, Epstein-Barr (sleeping sicknesses?) of 3 decades ago, where people had all sorts of symptoms, and nothing much could be done.
I was acquainted with one person who had this fatigue ailment. But I could only note how the fatigue flared when she was imposed on to do something she’d really rather not. Might be unfair to people with hard to diagnose debilitating ailments, but, in some cases they do seem rather “convenient”.
Like another female colleague with endometriosis, which also flared when her turn on the roster for the “shit jobs” came around.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 6 2022 15:25 utc | 11

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes
"They mime dressing him and he sets off in a procession before the whole city. The townsfolk uncomfortably go along with the pretense, not wanting to appear inept or stupid, until a child blurts out that the emperor is wearing nothing at all. The people then realize that everyone has been fooled. Although startled, the emperor continues the procession, walking more proudly than ever."

I doubt anything in life can come closer to that than Matt Lee questioning the emperors clothes the other day.
Here's one of Murdoch's scribblers trying to prove that the emperor is actually wearing clothes.
https://news.sky.com/story/west-and-russia-wage-information-war-over-ukraine-12534366

Footage of the exchange on Thursday went viral, with millions of views.

Hardly the focus Washington would have wanted when it chose to release the intelligence - but a good example of how such claims, regardless how credible, might land when not supported by verifiable evidence.

Then again, even evidence of a threat won't be enough to persuade everyone.

The US and the UK have been the loudest voices warning of a possible further invasion of Ukraine as Russia openly masses more than 100,000 forces and weapons within striking distance of its neighbour's borders.

Yet the Kremlin continues to brush off Western warnings of a possible attack as "hysteria" and insist no such aggression is being planned.

It has almost reached a point where President Putin would be doing British and US spy agencies a favour by invading and proving their warnings right.

In fact, some analysts note he could simply choose to inflict harm on their credibility by continuing to hold fire - creating an impression of "the boy who cried wolf" even though the wolf is very real...

...On the flip side, however, if Russia is plotting a false provocation to justify an invasion and does actually carry out that threat - the world will have been forewarned.

Presumably British and US officials have weighed up this potential scenario and decided it is worth the heat they are taking for their currently un-evidenced allegations.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 6 2022 15:27 utc | 12

If high gas prices = failed presidency, Biden is toast

US Gasoline Prices Soar to 2014 High on Oilprice.com

As international crude oil prices rally to above $92 per barrel, U.S. gasoline prices continue to surge and hit the highest since September 2014 on Friday, when the national average price of a gallon of regular gasoline was $3.423, AAA data showed.

Gasoline prices in America continued to rise for a sixth straight week, after last week the national average was $3.366 a gallon on January 31.

On February 4, the average price in every state in the United States was above $3 per gallon, including in Texas, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Alabama, which traditionally have the lowest state-wide average price of gasoline, according to AAA data. California’s average gasoline price was $4.663 on Friday.

The February 4 national average of $3.423/gal compares to $3.288/gal a month ago and to $2.443/gal at this time last year, per AAA figures.

The national average of $3.42 could break the 2021 high as early as today [2/5], Patrick De Haan, head of petroleum analysis for fuel-savings app GasBuddy, said on Friday.

5 of the 6 top indices for oil are now over $90, including WTI. This is absolutely due to the Freeze coming to the US - Texas in particular - but is in no way a divergence from a year long trend. As I noted in past posts - US oil stocks have gone in a straight line down over all of 2021 and into 2022. Note also that summer demand is generally the highest - which is generally when you see the highest prices. A multi-year high price in February means likely even higher prices in the coming summer unless something dramatically changes.

Other news of interest: EIA's latest reports show Russia was the 2nd largest oil provider to the US in 2020(!)
How much petroleum does the United States import and export? on EIA.gov

Mexico sends slightly more oil, but takes out twice as much petroleum products as it sends oil in so is actually a net petroleum importer from the US.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 15:38 utc | 13

@William Haught #10
I am confused with what you are saying.
Are you saying the single payer bill was created by "corporate DINOs" and thus allowed to die in committee because of that?
It would seem to me that a "single payer" bill that was created by "corporate DINOs" and corporations would pass... like Obamacare did.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 15:41 utc | 14

Honduras
Xiomara Castro is now president of Honduras and so far she is moving surprisingly fast. I'll list more in a bit but this article jumped out: she appointed a black garifuna speaking doctor to a cabinet position. Luther Castillo Harry is from the Caribbean Coast, populated by Blacks who speak Garifuna.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Garifuna-language
Castillo grew up dirt poor, then got a scholarship to Cuba's med program:
"For Dr. Castillo, who comes from the Garífuna community, ELAM turned out to be “a paradise in the heart of the Caribbean, where the dreams of the children of the poor come true, and from where men and women of science and conscience graduate.”

He was then given a position in Manuel Zelaya's brief, 3 year administration before the U.S. backed coup in 2009. He was wanted "dead or alive" by the narco mafia administrations.

"During President Manuel Zelaya’s administration (2006-2009), Dr. Castillo became director of External Cooperation of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and, after the coup d’état of July 28, 2009 removed Zelaya from the presidency, the social movements in Honduras promoted a solidarity campaign to protect the life of the doctor.
In a message broadcast in various media at that time, the ELAM graduates transmitted Luther’s warning verbatim: “Inform the compas (compadres) who say that my name is on the army list for my capture and there is an order to shoot me if I resist,” and demanded the guarantee of life and physical integrity of social leaders."

Bottom line, looks like Xiomara Castro is going full bore in her push toward BRI: Cuba and Venezuela are making fast and strong connections with Honduras. Remember the ELAM acronym-- Escuela latinoamericana de medicina. They have loads of street cred in Latin America and beyond. Russia and China will be facilitating their growth and power.

https://orinocotribune.com/honduran-garifuna-doctor-who-graduated-from-elam-joins-president-xiomara-castros-cabinet/

Posted by: migueljose | Feb 6 2022 15:43 utc | 15

It is conventional wisdom Bidet is a lame clay target and that that other faction of the Zionist, neoconservative, neoliberal, corporatist Demoplublican Party of the Unhinged States will win 2022 and 2024. Well, I think I got the next narrative of the mainscream media parallel universe figured out.

You see, after "Mission Accomplished" once again in "Ukraine" (without the the) and the Hollywood Rambo-style movies about how we won Afghanistan and "Ukraine," we will have another "Mission Accomplished" under the Cruz/Wicker presidency (yes, they will win, honestly, just like George Bush in 2000 and 2004, after all if you cannot trust proprietary code written by felons and managed by partisan party hacks who can you trust) we will be having to deal with another imminent invasion. This could take many forms, but my bets are on something along this sort of line: an invasion of American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands by the Anunnaki. Of course, they will spend years building up a substantial force in the Kuiper Belt so we will have plently of media coverage and time to prepare. We will kick their backsides like we always have done in the past, it will just cost the Pentagon a mere $2 quadrillion (only $20 trillion in 2019 dollars) in October 2028, just in time for the next Presidential election.

PS: Even CNN and MSNBC will blame inflation on Progressive Democratic programs that should be eliminated.

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 6 2022 15:43 utc | 16

Melaleuca @ 11

Thank you for reading.

What the story reminded me of was an incident from my own life. My bicycle club had a new member who was also a senior editor and author at Outside magazine. Outside was then new and had a Chicago HQ. Also very plain they had backing from someone with deep pockets.

So this editor kept writing travel articles where he toured the world with his, or an advertiser’s, bike. Always the travel articles had endearing personal anecdotes, camaraderie, friendship. Every personal incident had happened on our club ride. Italian gregarios and Provençal innkeepers were us. We could identify ourselves.

First two times it was amusing. After five times we told our new member it was time to pay. We paid for our own hobby, supported the sport with our time and with our wallets. This clown was getting a paycheck off of us. And he never traveled, he did the club ride every Saturday and Sunday. We never saw him again. Outside has thrived and owns a whole string of sports publications.

Reading for style the Yahoo! article is exactly like those old Outside articles. Just an occasion to print some stock travel photos.

My wife had long covid. I believe it exists. Any viral infection is likely to provoke what has always been called post-viral syndrome. We would know a lot more about post-viral effects of covid if there was not an endless smokescreen from rubbish media like Yahoo! Life.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 6 2022 15:53 utc | 17

The biggest fools in the world, imo, are those "Americans" who continue to support a two-party monopoly system in which the two parties have the separation of a two stones in a wall in Cusco. Fool me once....

The California 'single-payer' plan that didn't come to a vote in a legislature in which the Democrats hold a super-majority because the Democrats could not muster the votes to pass it. This isn't because the bill was too corporate friendly and 'progressives' revolted, but that that progressives are actually a mythological beast that does not exist within the Democratic Party.

"Americans" will get what they deserve when it all comes crashing down upon them in a failed state that offers nothing but hyperbole and the continued doubling down on abject failure.

Posted by: gottlieb | Feb 6 2022 16:04 utc | 18

@migueljose 15
Honduras: Xiomara Castro is going full bore in her push toward BRI . . she is moving surprisingly fast.
but not so fast. . .
. . .from NikkeiAsia. . .
New Honduran president drops push to ditch Taiwan for China . .Castro signals change in plans with eye on all-important ties with U.S.. .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 6 2022 16:27 utc | 19

RE: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 15:41 utc | 14

Most likely, it was sabotaged from the beginning just in case. Plus any kind / degree of single payer is probably completely unacceptable. I cannot imagine any Democrats acting like Democrats, even AOC who signed the same letter to the NBA regarding an alleged "Chinese Communist Party" genocide as Cruz.

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 6 2022 16:30 utc | 20

oldhippie | Feb 6 2022 14:54 utc | 5

"I am guessing Yahoo!Life pays by the word and the rate is not good enough to paste together any better than this."
*

Much more likely that those two places in Switzerland were the only ones to give a financial kickback for the publicity. Go long on tourist traps? $10'000 for seven days? That's called "medical tourism".

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 6 2022 16:30 utc | 21

@William Haught #20
I didn't look at the text of the bill, but I would agree with what you said.
As I noted in my original post: Newsome campaigned hard on single payer, but barely uttered a peep after getting into office.
As for "Democrats acting like Democrats" - this statement assumes the Democrat party is the party of FDR or JFK (not the same parties, BTW). The Democrat party before Lincoln looked a lot like the "states' rights" Republicans today, and the Democrat party today looks very much like the Republican party pre-Clinton except different sponsors.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 16:43 utc | 22

@gottlieb #18
I don't disagree in general with what you said, except you left out one important factor: Failure to pass the single payer bill by vote means every person who votes against it would be identified.
As for the 2 parties: also agree except I see them as an expression of the American oligarchy. The followers of the oligarchy, in other words although some are certainly members of the oligarchy.
The difference is that political parties can, in theory, be voted out but an expression of the 1% and their 10% minions is far harder to change.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 16:46 utc | 23

RE: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 16:43 utc | 22

The Democratic and Republican parties of today are more like the National Socialist Party with all of the imperialism and corporatism, but none of the nationalism (at least the isolationist version) or the socialism.

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 6 2022 16:47 utc | 24

In the Euronews video, the black and red flags are the Ukrainian Insurgent Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army#Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 6 2022 16:50 utc | 25

"An N-Word Too Far", a reality/interview/reenactment show, 1st guest The Rock. start with clips that viewers might find "offensive." Then, "Mr, uh, Rock, Mr Johnson...Dwayne, when did you realize that Joe Rogen's remarks might threaten your relationship with Disney?" next week, Whoopie.

---
high priest noam "vote democrat" chomsky on the din of war:
"i only said this russian invasion was big enough for Jehovah."
"right! you've done it again! you are only making it worse!"
"making it worse? how can i make it worse? russian invasion, russian invasion, russian invasion."
"i don't want anyone to say 'russian invasion' until i blow this whistle."

and colorless conceited green snores night merrily. give it up Noam. when you gonna apologize for your decades of deceitful, lesser evil, feed the jackass donkey crap?

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Feb 6 2022 16:51 utc | 26

That link you give, up above:

"The enduring nightmare of being a COVID ‘long-hauler’ nearly 2 years — and 27 doctors — in- Yahoo" --

That guy writes:

"I’ve come to realize a fundamental truth about health care systems in the U.S. and U.K.: They are ill-prepared to properly handle chronic illness patients."

That sends up red-flags, for me. Yes, the UK's health system is flawed, but it's far better set up to take care of chronically ill patients than the US system is. Any fucking fool would recognize that. If the UK's health system is failing this guy, it's for the same reason that it would be failing any other person in the wide world of "socialized medicine": because GPs ("family doctors") don't yet understand how to treat, gauge, or report the effects of the disease.

None of those reasons have the slightest relationship to why the US is "ill-prepared" to "properly handle" either chronic illness or "long Covid."

I'm calling bullshit on this one. "POTS", in particular: hey, i went through a period in childhood where I would go faint-headed when i stood up "too fast."

I haven't died, professionally i have continued to advance and build my skills, i continue to be a contributing member of society, nobody thinks i'm an idiot or a moron, and this "person" apparently writes about 1 article every 6 months-to-a-year.

Evidence:

https://muckrack.com/edhornick/articles

Also, apparently his last four (!) articles have been about being a "Covid...Long-Hauler".

Yes, we can presume he is telling the truth, from his perspective. The truth is, he's a hypochondriac.

So yes, we can also suspect that this person is not telling the truth, and is a paid liar.

This is a guy who was paid to--in his two pre-Covid stories--document how...Glen Beck was dissed by Obama, and Clinton supporters mocked McCain (which happened over 1 and 2 years ago, respectively).

Let's not pretend like this guy is a genuine journalist, nor as if he's not motivated by lucre to endorse whatever-the-latest-trend-in-moneymaking-"journalism" is.

This is a guy who just posted a list of extremely vague symptoms, which are all entirely subjective:

..."migraine headaches, astonishingly low energy levels, random muscle spasms, electric-like shocks in my joints and tissues, burning lung pain, fluttering heart palpitations, constant ringing in my ears, cognitive decline, sudden loss of strength in my hands, spastic tremors and vibrations, blurry vision, narcoleptic-like sleep impairment and frightening POTS-related fainting spells"

...who prefaces his list of extremely vague symptoms (like "astonishingly low energy levels, random muscle spasms, electric-like shocks in my joints and tissues...fluttering heart palpitations, constant ringing in my ears, cognitive decline, sudden loss of strength in my hands, spastic tremors and vibrations, blurry vision, narcoleptic-like sleep impairment...")--all of which i have experienced during a few days of bad drinking, or a few days of a bad diet regimen, or a few weeks of malnutrition, or a few days of dysentery--and then goes on to ascribe it all to...really, wtf does "POTS-related fainting spells" mean? It means, basically: you get lightheaded and maybe sit back down after you stand up too fast.

That's all it means.

Which--just if any young ones out there are reading this--is something that i, and a GREAT many of your ancestors (as attested in literature, which you should study) can attest is a rather common phenomenon, and literally nothing that has ever been associated with death, rapid-death-onset, imminent death, debilitating onset of weakening disorders, disorders of the mind, disorders of the body, nor any of whatever newfangled terminology y'all might find in "the literature" of psychiatry, medicine, and/or psychology.

Literally: nobody on the planet has ever thought that simply "standing up and getting dizzy" is equal to "chronic illness". Yes: if such a condition makes you jiggle around like you're a drunken sailor, you might have a problem. But otherwise: nah. Y're golden. You just had a "dizzy-spell", as the English language has termed it, for about 1000 years.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 6 2022 17:02 utc | 27

Melaleuca 11

epstien barr is an auto immune condition. That is one actual physical illness that although it has a number of triggers is also known to be triggered in some people by a certain vaccine. I couldn't be bothered looking it up. If the person who wrote that is young, it might gradually lessen until perhaps in a decade he will be back to full health. This shit is something I should say I would wish on no one. But me being me, I would like to see the vast majority of doctors, and people like you struck with it.

Long covid... a yuppy term term used for a dumbed down western audience. The good thing about this though, is that with covid triggering auto immune responses in so many people, a lot of research will go into it.

I have seen people like you that have been lucky not to experience ill health. They come to believe it is strength of mind. And you know something? Just short term chronic mid level pain and they turn to water. Short term I am talking a year.

I am now 61. I know what it's like to be physically healthy because in my adult life I have experienced seven years of good health. I have special hatred for doctors because although they have a great deal of knowledge about the medical industry and making a buck, have no understanding of sickness. If the medical industry doesn't have a pill for it then it doesn't exist.
I drink too much now Melaleuca. It numbs the mild physical discomfort. Mild but prevents me from sleeping. I see a doc and the fuckwit says "it's in your mind". I see a shrink and say "if the problem is in my mind, I want my mind fixed". The shrink talks to me awhile and says you have a physical problem, you need to see a doc. You ever experienced that merry go round?

Have you ever lived in that world? We live in an Orwellian world where a Matt Lee blurts out, "Emperor, you have no clothes". A world of group think. And that does not apply just to politics.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 6 2022 17:07 utc | 28

I posted a comment earlier and now it’s gone. Does this means I’m banned?

Posted by: DG | Feb 6 2022 17:14 utc | 29

Sorry my mistake. I’ve posted in in another thread.

Posted by: DG | Feb 6 2022 17:17 utc | 30

To our Canadian fellows here, Trudeau's official itineraries for the last 3 days have been practically empty.

But the location always says "National Capital Region, Canada". What does that mean? Where could he be h̶i̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ quarantining?

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Feb 6 2022 17:21 utc | 31

@William Haught #24
I disagree.
The 2 mainstream parties have nowhere the reach or fervor which the Nazis inspired.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 17:24 utc | 32

thanks b and to the many fine posters here... always interesting...

@ Scotch Bingeington | Feb 6 2022 17:21 utc | 31... the running joke is, ''has anyone seen justin in tofino?''

b - any thoughts on the truckers demonstration in canada?

most disturbing - "Orwellian: Western #media reports simply omit that this march in #Kharkiv was organized by neo-Nazi party that was involved in Odessa massacre and numerous other cases of violence in #Ukraine and is civilian branch of Azov Regiment."

Posted by: james | Feb 6 2022 17:34 utc | 33

Maybe the official US main parties don't, but the Tea Party/ Trump party does.

And it's touch and go as to whether they completely commandeer the Republican Party.

Posted by: DaveGood | Feb 6 2022 17:34 utc | 34

RE: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 17:24 utc | 32

I surmise you have insulated yourself from any kind of cable or even broadcast "news."

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 6 2022 17:35 utc | 35

@William Haught #35
The average reach of both CNN/MSDNC and Fox News is less than 1M people per episode, if you exclude Tucker Carlson.
With the upcoming hiatus of Maddow, the reach of these 2 networks is going to be possibly closer to 500K per episode.
I don't see this as representative of either reach or fervor - only the idiocy of those programs.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 17:44 utc | 36

Scotch Bingeington @31

He is at the official Presidential Cottage @ Harrington Lake. Maybe ten miles outside of town. In the middle of a national park and with massive security infrastructure in place.

Posted by: o | Feb 6 2022 17:46 utc | 37

Last comment signed ‘o’ was me. Keyboard error

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 6 2022 17:47 utc | 38

Scotch Bingeington
Norwegian in the Canada thread linked a very good video of an Indian diplomat on that. What that Indian diplomat said also tied in a few comments on the last thread about the farmers protest in India. Perhaps pretty boy is smart enough to realize he has no clothes and has ducked for cover.
Canada, like Australia and Russia is a place of low population density but high in raw resources. Those resources will always be supplied to countries with high population densities.
People that live in the real world do not take kindly to pretty snake oil salesman. From what I have seen here (this country), fascists are far better to enlist as snake oil salesmen to the unwashed than no sex pretty boys.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 6 2022 17:48 utc | 39

“it appears that sanctions on Nord Stream 2 and Russian gas supply are not a consequence of the Ukraine crisis, but Ukraine crisis is planned to hit Russian gas and energy trade with Europe.”

That appears as essentially true. It explains why Congress was preparing to vote on the already drawn-up sanctions legislation last week, even in the absence of the presumed “invasion”. The coup in 2014 was similar, in that NATO fully expected Russian tanks in Kiev in response, only to be handed a Donbass and Crimea downgrade, but went ahead with the predetermined full-throttle whinge-and-sanctions response anyways.

The Germans visit Washington tomorrow (Feb 7) for some arm-twisting. The corporate press is today full of stories predicting that Russia will unilaterally “turn off the gas” (rather than US/EU halt the flow through sanctions), promoting hopelessly optimistic scenarios based on full or partial disruptions - “don’t worry Europe, it’ll only be super-cold for a few months and your economy should bounce back in a few years… and yes, fracking is a ‘clean’ technology.”

Posted by: jayc | Feb 6 2022 18:07 utc | 40

Posted by: james | Feb 6 2022 17:34 utc | 33

Correct me if I'm wrong but Tofino is to Ucluelet what West Van was to Vanc. East End?. Long time since a visited those places and as far as I can remember Tofino was just a few scattered buildings along Long Beach.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 6 2022 18:09 utc | 41

Re: long-haul Covid

Scientific research continues...

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I only scanned the Yahoo! article above about one person's experience with long-haul Covid, so I won't give an opinion about the author.

I happened to be reading about Carnosine today and then read the comment section here. There is an overlap.

This research paper at the NIH website suggests Carnosine can inhibit Covid's docking to the well known ACE2 receptor.

Carnosine to Combat Novel Coronavirus (nCoV): Molecular Docking and Modeling to Cocrystallized Host Angiotensin-Converting Enzyme 2 (ACE2) and Viral Spike Protein

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33260592/

This research paper goes into other details and specifically mentions long-haul Covid.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8146193/

There is too much worthy of pasting here, so, if you are interested, give it a read.
Here is the final paragraph:

While research into these potential effects is preliminary, the role of carnosine in patients with COVID-19 is promising and therefore there is a need for trials to test the efficacy of carnosine for prevention, as a supportive measure during the infection as well as in long COVID (Figure 1). Given the high tolerability and absence of significant side effects, alongside its anti-inflammatory and an antioxidant effects, it could provide a low-cost, scalable solution for this indication. This is particularly noteworthy given carnosine’s well-known benefits in patient demographics who are at increased risk from COVID-19, including the elderly and those living with diabetes.

That last sentence is saying, Covid aside, carnosine is good for the elderly anyways.

Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 18:28 utc | 42

The truckers are right wing red neck losers. End of story. They are a reactionary segment of the working class, with no education or experience in socialized labor, or in collective working class struggle through unions. The rest of the working class and social movements in Canada are all against this far right movement. It offers nothing for the working class and is being amplified by lunatic right wing media and the moronic Conservatives and their white, racist small business base. Stir in white trash rural Canadian culture and that's all you need to know about the dumb truckers.

Posted by: Sam B | Feb 6 2022 18:43 utc | 43

@33 james - are there any links to the march in Kharkiv? I am rather interested in seeing them.

This was on theduran the other day regarding Ukraine.

duran

from anti-maidan

And I discovered this very moving song about the Australian involvement in the Vietnam war. The video has incredible archival footage.

Redgum - I Was Only 19

God help us all.

Thank you, b, for providing us this platform for discussion.

Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 6 2022 18:44 utc | 44

Well Sam @43 if what you say is true it just goes to show that Canucks are just as stupid as 'yanks.'

Posted by: gottlieb | Feb 6 2022 18:45 utc | 45

That long covid sufferer in the link above should visit my doctor.

After carefully listening to that list of symptoms and a few simple tests he would would wite a diagnosis of "Severe case of Inclinata Plumbum" on the guy's sick note.

Posted by: DaveGood | Feb 6 2022 18:46 utc | 46

Sam B, I would say that I don’t know who these truckers are, but they are well-organized and well-funded. They have powerful support - so this is not some expression of Canadian dissidence, it’s a specific tactic for power. It’s organized. Whether the individuals involved are educated, live in rural areas, are anti-vaxxers, is of little relevance. They are part of an organized demonstration which has clear sponsors and leaders. They are being directed.

Wreaking havoc in Canadian cities is a questionable way to get elected. Actually, it’s an effective way to send citizens searching for others to bring to power. Pollster Nik Nanos had bad news for both the Liberal and Conservative parties over this recently.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 6 2022 18:56 utc | 47

@43 Sam B - That is a nice sentiment. I love the working class. I love messed up humans who don't give a damn. You condescending tone will never bring these unwashed masses into whatever you think the bright new future will be. Racist small business base."" Humm. What do you want? Woke global corporations.
I fully support the "reactionary segment of the working class, with no education or experience in socialized labor, or in collective working class struggle through unions."
Especially since it seems like people like you would like to run them.
And I come from the working class.

Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 6 2022 18:59 utc | 48

@43 - And "White trash" is a racist term. No humans are trash. It is akin to N word or all the rest of them. You make me sick.

Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 6 2022 19:04 utc | 49

re: Melaleuca | Feb 6 2022 14:42 utc | 4

Well, I hope the SEALs were fully covid vaccinated and boostered!

Posted by: tucenz | Feb 6 2022 19:04 utc | 50

@ Paco | Feb 6 2022 18:09 utc | 41..

i paco.. i used to be that way, but what has happened on the very west, west coast of vancouver island is that it has become a haven for the ultra rich and affluent... there are others their too, but it has become expensive in both locations.... real estate developments and etc. etc.. they haven't got the big box stores yet though and there is still a younger and hip vibe to both places with a lot of beautiful sandy beaches and surfers and etc. etc.. it might have been trudeau senior that turned it into a national park...

@ re the truckers... i really liked what dh-mtl said about this and think many canucks are being manipulated by the cbc and msm here.. quote again from him here-

"The Canadian government supported violent protests and a coup in Ukraine. They called it 'Freedom and Democracy'.

They supported violent protests and a coup in Venezuela. They called it 'Freedom and Democracy'.

They supported protests by farmers in India. They called it 'Freedom and Democracy'.

But now when their own citizens are peacefully protesting for freedom and democracy, they call it terrorism.

Posted by: dh-mtl | Jan 31 2022 9:32 utc | 146"

Posted by: james | Feb 6 2022 19:07 utc | 51

Melaleuca | Feb 6 2022 14:42 utc | 4

Or compare the sudden deaths/cardiac crises of numerous pro soccer players over the last several weeks. Vaccine injuries perhaps?

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Feb 6 2022 19:09 utc | 52

@Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 18:28 utc | 42

My covid update to group, as previously discussed.

On Wednesday, Feb 2, I tested Negative for Covid.
I had that test as on Feb 1st my wife tested Positive.
My test was done six days after she showed her first symptom.

I still do not appear to have caught Covid from her. We are not isolating
from one another. She does not expose anyone else as she remains in the house.

An internet search does not seem to provide guidance as to whether I should get re-tested
a few days after the initial Negative test.

My wife's symptoms, from appearances, are those of a mild to moderate cold.
Her symptoms have generally plateaued for the last few days. The one thing that seems to
have changed is her energy level. Low energy was an early complaint but it seems to have
gotten worse, and now she complains that her legs feel heavy.

No elevated temperature, occasional cough, mild nasal congestion, skin color is normal, lackluster appetite. Very tired.
This is day nine of her showing symptoms.

Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 19:10 utc | 53

@Sam B | Feb 6 2022 18:43 utc | 43

lunatic right wing media and the moronic Conservatives and their white, racist small business base. Stir in white trash rural Canadian culture and that's all you need to know about the dumb truckers.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 6 2022 19:15 utc | 54

librul | Feb 6 2022 19:10 utc | 52
no sympathy from me. you are going to keep spouting your bs until your anecdotal evidence collapses by sickness or death of yourself and/or of someone you care about.

actually i just assume that you are lying. in any case, i care not a whit for people like you.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Feb 6 2022 19:17 utc | 55

@Posted by: rjb1.5 | Feb 6 2022 19:17 utc | 54

Some commentators had asked for updates.

You can be in the "no updates, please" group.

Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 19:22 utc | 56

Wow. There are a lot of mean people posting here. Racist Sam B and rjb1.5 Bad vibes.

Show some empathy, understanding and willingness to discuss.

Now I gotta go to work on my weekend.

Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 6 2022 19:25 utc | 57

You know the Covid narrative is crumbling when even Bill Maher speaks out about it.

No way do they get to dismiss him as some racist, right wing red neck ….etc….etc…..

https://youtu.be/or4vncEcuBo

Posted by: Down South | Feb 6 2022 19:31 utc | 58

Anyone healthy should treasure it, although it's too hard to imagine anything mildly serious or worse if one hasn't experienced it (same for me). It's also kind of impossible to correctly judge severity of for example side effects unless one has something very similar to compare it to.

So to DaveGood I hope you get a better doctor if you ever get seriously ill, one that would actually try to run a few tests for a start instead of assuming you're making stuff up before taking your money.

The human body is incredibly complex so there's plenty yet to learn and it's going to take a long time. I believe next we're facing at least a good hundred years of nasty "beginners" mistakes with medical genetics to start with and the COVID mRNA stuff could be the start of it if we're unlucky. Why? Because we're so damn good at hubris and kind of desperate for all kinds of solutions.

Btw (at least in Europe) read any details on prescription medicines about side effects and it's clear we haven't mastered body chemistry yet, not even close. Good doctors will freely admit that "simple" stuff like blood pressure medicines (you'll likely all get acquainted with those if you live long enough no matter how healthy) can still be hit and miss which is why there isn't just one kind of blood pressure medicine available. Even mild side effects from common drugs can be very debilitating, some of which can be remedied and some which can't.

Hell we're still once in a while even now in the 21st century discovering new parts of the body in addition to those few where we have no or little idea of what they do or how!

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 6 2022 19:33 utc | 59

Sam B | Feb 6 2022 18:43 utc | 43

Such contemptuous hatred for other people is disgusting.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Feb 6 2022 19:41 utc | 60

Here is a Truck cartoon.

(Hint: it is satire)

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It contains many layers.
Off-Guardian had this to say:

Some people on social media were outraged the artist could suggest free speech could destroy society or democracy, but having checked out the artist’s twitter, I’m pretty sure it’s a satire on the way the media is portraying the “threat” of the truckers.

Either way, there’s a brilliant second layer of meaning here. Because, while free speech won’t ever actually destroy democracy, it’s entirely possible the powers-that-be will blow democracy up from the inside, and pretend it was free speech despite it being physically impossible.

"it’s entirely possible the powers-that-be will blow democracy up from the inside, and pretend it was free speech despite it being physically impossible."
How many times have we seen that demonstrated?
Lately, there is the attack upon "Covid misinformation".
There is the attack by Congress against social media companies.
The "Russian threat on Facebook" to divide the American People, and the reaction by Congress into passing more restrictions on free speech.
The legalizing of (thanks, Obama!) Pentagon/CIA generated propaganda targeting the American People
to protect us from wrong-think.

Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 19:42 utc | 61

I have to agree with librul.
I have a lot of the same symptoms.
Didn’t go to get tested.
Why bother?
My impression is that the results are unreliable.
I avoid people as much as I can.
Do my shopping early in the morning, when traffic ion the stores is light.
The know it all, know nothings that offer their two cents here, are typically brain dead reactionaries.
Got it all figured out. lol!!!
I’m patient enough to wait for evidence, not innuendo and speculation.
And, Bill Mahr, really???
You reveal a special kind of stupid, when you cite that clown.

Posted by: $outhpaw | Feb 6 2022 19:45 utc | 62

@Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 19:42 utc | 60

I left off the link!

https://off-guardian.org/wp-content/medialibrary/freedom-convoy-9-11-cartoon.jpg?x73884

Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 19:46 utc | 63

@Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 19:10 utc | 52

A reminder. My wife and I both received the J&J vaccine
the first week of April 2021.

Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 19:54 utc | 64

Oh and one more thing:
we really need better diagnostics for nearly everything.

If I should by some weird accident ever get rich that's what I'd spend the money on. It's not so much a technological problem (something as "simple" and small and used elsewhere such as instant chemical element analysis isn't generally available in medicine yet and it should be, it should at least become a standard part of every blood test) as it is one of engineering and getting it out there cheaply and widely to collect a lot of data which might perhaps (but likely) make diagnosis easier.

That's what (at least rich) governments should invest much more in and "give away" to all of humanity. Increased health pays for itself.

The way things are it is much too difficult both for patients to correctly describe symptoms and for doctors to catch any and all clues as to what might be going on.

Stuff is moving slowly in the right direction but far too slowly and of course errors such as for example not accounting for different kinds of pigmentation in at least some of the very neat blood oxygen content meters must be corrected.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 6 2022 19:58 utc | 65

james | 33
“has anyone seen justin in tofino?”
I don’t get that joke… :|

o | 37
Thanks for clearing that up! There’s all kinds of speculation around.

Peter AU1 | 39

“Norwegian… cover.”
Now that you’re saying it, I meant to watch that. Will do it now.

“Canada… densities.”
Yes, I get that.

“no sex pretty boys”
Do you mean no sex as in the “is he male, is he female” question or as in “he’s not getting laid”? :D

Australia, it continues to amaze me. New Zealand, too. But then, I don’t know what to think, because I have to admit I know next to nothing about these countries. Some great Australian movies ("Wake in Fright"?), actors and musicians, yes. But politics, the quality of life, the Zeitgeist there? No idea.

I meant to say this much earlier, I'm glad good to see you commenting again. You had a short break, I think, and health issues, too. I’m not into praying, so in a secular way, my best wishes go out to you! Please keep the comments coming!

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Feb 6 2022 19:59 utc | 66

librul 42

Snake oil has long been the cure all for everything. Supermarket health section shelves are packed with various brand managed and marketed snake oils. Often they work wonders on healthy people.
US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health. that is where your link led. A fucking merica where they perfected the art of capitalising on the sick.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 6 2022 20:05 utc | 67

I walked past the Freedumb protest in Victoria, BC yesterday and there were about 300-400 people on the BC Legislature lawn and maybe 50-60 cars and trucks circling the legislature honking their horns. When the speakers got started, the basic themes were to complain about Trudeau, talk about the impending Great Reset, and promote Bitcoin. I didn't see any nazis or racists, but what I did see is a bunch of people who have spent too much time listening to conspiracy theories and are being manipulated (I don't know who, but pretty soon we will be able to follow the money). Their demands are not only impossible to meet from a purely legal and legislative standpoint, even if they could be met, no government would ever cave in to this type of blackmail. These protestors are by far the minority of people in Canada and counter protests have started.

Posted by: Victor | Feb 6 2022 20:11 utc | 68

@ Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 6 2022 19:33 utc | 58 .. insightful and accurate overview of where i too think we are.. thank you...

@ Scotch Bingeington | Feb 6 2022 19:59 utc | 65.. it is hard explaining insider jokes usually, but basically justin likes tofino and has gone out to tofino a few times in the past year... it seems he likes the place quite a bit.. so the running joke is maybe he is in tofino - a small community on the west coast of canada, and ''has anyone seen justin in tofino?" is the joke... pretty anti-climatic with me making it this wordy..

Posted by: james | Feb 6 2022 20:14 utc | 69

lex talionis | Feb 6 2022 19:25 utc | 56
people who've spent the virus spouting lies are dangerous agents of disinformation. librul, norwegian, et al are not innocent and certainly not ignorant. karma's a bitch.

there's no comparison with the truckers in Canada. the virus is real. the money that is manipulating those truckers is not. it's pure culture, pure manipulation. however, these truckers, like all of us wage slaves, are open to such manipulation b/c of legitimate grievances, otherwise most of them wouldn't be there. that doesn't make the truckers some kind of "spontaneous working class uprising." and it's not helpful to refer to one's social peers as "trash". the real human trash is very, very clean and coiffed.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Feb 6 2022 20:15 utc | 70

b would have us believe that the media lies about everything... except covid

when you push links that hype things like reinfection you are helping to lead us in to the new dark age

please look in to it, talk to someone with a good understanding of biology - you are gaslighting human knowledge

Posted by: Rae | Feb 6 2022 20:20 utc | 71

Posted by: Sam B | Feb 6 2022 18:43 utc | 43

More than 40% of north American truckers are Sikhs. Have a nice day, eh?

Posted by: Berndt Braincell | Feb 6 2022 20:24 utc | 72

@rjb1.5 | Feb 6 2022 20:15 utc | 69

people who've spent the virus spouting lies are dangerous agents of disinformation. librul, norwegian, et al are not innocent and certainly not ignorant. karma's a bitch.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 6 2022 20:26 utc | 73

Victor | Feb 6 2022 20:11 utc | 67
Truckers for bitcoin! or play the lottery. same diff.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Feb 6 2022 20:27 utc | 74

@69 rjb1.5 - Uh, I wasn't the person that started using the term, "White trash." I think it was your fellow traveller, Sam B. I don't doubt that the virus is real. Perhaps you work in the pharmaceutical industry and have some information to share? I think the money manipulating those truckers is what they need to support themselves and their families, after all, we're all wage slaves here, right?
Just for you information, I generally agree with librul, norwegian and et al. I think you haven't fully read what I have posted. I'm not the most intelligent or well read of a person, but I can tell when someone is lame, and your response to librul was vile. I detest people like you who show no empathy and feel superior to others.
And any money that could have been "manipulating those truckers" was pulled by the BS GoFundMe humans in SF. But they were cool with GoFunding BLM while they burned and looted. A CVS was looted down the street from me. I live in LA.
I did not start the "trash" business with me. SamB did it and you kept the ball rolling.

Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 6 2022 20:40 utc | 75

Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 6 2022 19:58 utc | 64

A "diagnostician" is a very specialized, and rare type of "doctor". To find a good doctor idem. Not every doctor is equal even if they have the same data to work from, but blood tests can be necessary to indicate or point to the problem.
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Rule of thumb, If you are taking three or more seious medecines, then the interactions between them cannot be calculated.
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If you (or anyone) finds a good Doc. - stay with them because they also get to know you personally as a patient. (I go to the same doctor for at least 20 years. Mainly because if I am not sick he won't try to "cure" me. ie earn more money by prescribing things I don't need.)
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Which is why the original link about the medical tourist is obviously just MSM propaganda to talk about "Long Covid", by multiplying the supposed symptoms so that those of a nervous disposition will immediately say "I've got that".

My Grandmother-in-law read a book called the "Little doctor", and she always caught the illness described on the page she was reading. But then she became hypochondriac because she caught polio when young, so she had an excuse.
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There are people who make a living by "getting ill" on a permanent basis. My neighbour was one. She "caught" all sorts of undetectable illnesses that kept her off work and on sick-pay for about eight years. She thought she was being clever at fooling people. When, finally, she was fired, she broke down completely and really flipped out. Her "status" was taken away from her and she was unable to cope. But those who knew her generally had no sympathy left, it had been used up.
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This is not to say that people with real symptoms and undiagnosed problems like Peter AU1 are "cheating". Far from it, they are being let down by those that really profit by using up time and possibilities. Long term pain and sickness is debilitating, and lousy for the morale.

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 6 2022 20:43 utc | 76

@ Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 6 2022 19:33 utc | 58

Not that it matters much Sunny but I have three different medical problems, all of them fatal, none curable. It's a toss up which one gets to nail me.

your opinions on current knowledge about genetics, bio-chemistry, the safety and effectiveness of vaccines produced using new, untried methods for the first time etc., I share.

What's your opinion of the Havana Syndrome now afflicting hard working American Diplomats all across this planet? Enemy action using weapons of unknown design? Some form of contagious hysteria? The after effects of a hard nights partying? A hitherto unknown disease that is specific to American Embassies?

If you don't have an opinion on it, why have one on Long Covid? The evidence for either is little more then anecdote and self reported symptoms.

I think hypochondria and attention-seeking accounts for over ninety per cent of those claiming to have Long Covid.

That's an opinion, not a fact, because there are no facts, known for certain, about Long Covid.

Posted by: DaveGood | Feb 6 2022 20:59 utc | 77

video norwegian shared on the previous thread.. it is a good 2 minute video that summarizes a few things around the trucker protest in canada..
Norwegian | Feb 6 2022 13:08 utc | 146

Top Indian diplomat on why Justin Trudeau is an embarrassment both in Canada & India

Posted by: james | Feb 6 2022 21:02 utc | 78

The truckers are right wing red neck losers. End of story. They are a reactionary segment of the working class, with no education or experience in socialized labor, or in collective working class struggle through unions. The rest of the working class and social movements in Canada are all against this far right movement.

It is obvious this is a CIA/NSA/MI6 TROLL....

These claims are straight out of Ronald Reagans TelePrompter....

Most of the "Truckers" are small business men... "Owner-Operators" in the lexicon...

They decry a regulation requiring them to wear a mask while driving alone in their trucks... Most recent published work, claims masks don't make a discernable difference... they don't work...

They decry the mandate for "being injected with mRNA experimental products which are proving to be dangerous, and to not work at all.

Were they cognizant, they'd demand OTC access to IVM and HCQ... universal free daily supply of Vitamin D & Vitamin C, Quercitin & Zinc....

All they get from the likes of you is a diatribe... with out any basis in fact.

You, sir... are beyond reprehensible... you are from the dark side... the under side of the worst skum imaginable...

I'd personally give you a thrashing, were I to know your location...

INDY

Posted by: George W Oprisko | Feb 6 2022 21:07 utc | 79

gottlieb #18

Thank you, well said. I liked the Cusco reference :)

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 6 2022 21:12 utc | 80

Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 18:28 utc | 42

Once again happy to learn that a regular component of my "quack" supplement regimen actually might do some good. I take carnosine whenever I can afford it; it's one of the most expensive amino acids for whatever reason.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 6 2022 21:16 utc | 81

Peter AU1

You are a keen observer and a solid thinker. Be your own doctor.

An anecdote. My doctor the first 25 years of my life was a wild man. Became a doc by field promotion on the Eastern Front. Came to US after the war and hung out a shingle. Got caught in 1948, was liked enough by local colleagues, they allowed him to do a two year internship at a punishment assignment, Cook County Hospital Emergency Room. Car accidents and gunshot wounds. He said two years at County was like a week at the front.

Kept his 1944 Heidelberg diploma on the wall. He had never been to that city. Did I mention yet this was a highly secular Jew from Cologne? The local Jews stayed away because he was Reichswehr. The local Germans stayed away because he was Jewish. Fortunately he was kept busy with consults sent from University of Chicago, Mayo Clinic, everywhere. Reputed as a great clinical diagnostician. I aked him how he did that. He said other doctors saw a difficult case and thought it was final exam time, tried to remember what their textbooks said. He was fortunate enough to have never read the textbook, he just looked at the patient.

Last visit before he retired he told me to ask my grandmother about health questions and if she were not available think what she would do. But he had never met my grandmother. He said he saw her in my father all the time. And since my own mother mostly left me alone and someone had mothered me he knew it was her. Grandma never saw any doctor but the podiatrist and lived to be 98. Her last ten years at The Home the geriatricians consulted with her constantly, she always knew far more than they did.

Of course none of the above would be possible in 2022. Over the years I have met other good doctors, they were all substantially at odds with their professional colleagues. Common denominator for the good ones is they listen and observe.They ask good questions. Clinical observation is the whole game.

Know thyself.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 6 2022 21:18 utc | 82

Posted by: George W Oprisko | Feb 6 2022 21:07 utc | 78

Come on, dude. Let's do a little thought experiment. Ready?

Prominent members of Canada's government support the Nazis in Ukraine.

Those same members tend to represent areas of Canada from which these trucker protestors come.

Is it not therefore possible that there's a level of support among many of these truckers for the far-right Nazi loving elements of the US/Canada installed coup government of Ukraine and that country's massive neo Nazi movement?

More Here

And here: https://www.thenation.com/article/world/canada-nazi-monuments-antisemitism/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 6 2022 21:20 utc | 83

That's an opinion, not a fact, because there are no facts, known for certain, about Long Covid.

Posted by: DaveGood | Feb 6 2022 20:59 utc | 76

FWIW, this reminds me of the initial (meaning decades long but years ago) reaction to alleged long haul Lyme Disease. Although that one's not virus-borne, there is much controversy over the treatments, some experimental with only anecdotal data supporting them, that doctors and patients dealing with what is thought to be long-lasting Lyme which somehow 'hides' from antibiotics behind 'biofilms'.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 6 2022 21:24 utc | 84

@ librul | Feb 6 2022 19:10 utc | 52

A large % of the omicron infected are not testing positive according to findings from Denmark’s examination of its population.

Last week the Statens Serum Institut (SSI) reported that up to between 1/3 and 1/2 of mostly omicron covid infections have gone undetected and so unreported (despite Danmark’s peerless genomic surveillance and testing) .

The results are based on analyzing blood donations for nucleocapsid protein of the virus which can only be detected after the body experiences a natural infection.

"The results indicate that... the proportion of infected people who have not tested positive makes up between a third and a half of all infections.”
SSI director Henrik Ullum

https://www.ssi.dk/aktuelt/nyheder/2022/hver-tredje-voksne-dansker

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-02-adult-danes-covid-november.html

Posted by: suzan | Feb 6 2022 21:26 utc | 85

WaPo and the outlets who also run Jeff Bezos' opinion are scare mongering at an entirely new level. Keep in mind that Drudge picked this one up thereby massively increasing the number of eyes that will see this blatant propaganda.

https://www.chron.com/news/article/U-S-warns-China-risks-embarrassment-if-it-backs-16833944.php

Russia is close to completing preparations for what appears to be a large-scale invasion of Ukraine that could leave up to 50,000 civilians killed or wounded, decapitate the government in Kyiv within two days, and launch a humanitarian crisis with up to 5 million refugees fleeing the resulting chaos, according to updated U.S. military and intelligence assessments briefed to lawmakers and European partners over the past several days.

Disgusting.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 6 2022 21:30 utc | 86

@Victor #67
Can you give a more detailed description of what you saw?
In particular:
how much time did you spend listening to speakers?
How many speakers did you listen to?
How long did they speak, each, roughly and on average?
Were the speakers on a podium or some sort of central speaking area or just anywhere?
Did you talk to anyone there or were you only eavesdropping/listening to speakers?

If you did actually talk to people, where were they from?
What did they think they are doing/accomplishing?

If you failed to talk to people there, then it is difficult for me to understand how you can generalize jack shit.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 6 2022 21:37 utc | 87

Jake nails it--/s
A Russian invasion of Ukraine could be imminent, White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan warned on Sunday.
“We are in the window,” Sullivan said in an interview on “Fox News Sunday.” “Any day now, Russia could take military action against Ukraine or it could be a couple of weeks from now, or Russia could choose to take the diplomatic path instead.”//

The diplomatic path, you know, it starts over there beyond the bush, after the ditch, it's the diplomatic path for sure.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 6 2022 21:41 utc | 88

RE: various posts by various posters

It seems to me that half of the world population is left of the Bell Curve and most of the world population is some sort of reactionary (naive and narcissistic (most) or smart and psychopathic (the few beneficiaries).

So most Caucasians are going to be trash just like the rest of 'em.

In the Unhinged States and the Land Down Under it is probably worse if genetics has anything to do with it since they got the immigrants who were forced out whether it was due to wackadoo religion, tribal chiefs who thought they were only good as an export, or whatever.

It seems we have 1) a large naive, narcissistic, conventionalist, and reactionary, (and generally not very smart) segment of the working class supporting half of the professional class and half of the "elite" that is psychopathic, megalomaniacal, conventionalist, and reactionary; and 2) a large naive, narcissistic, woke, and reactionary segment of the working class supporting half of the professional class and half of the "elite" that is psychopathic, megalomaniacal, woke, and reactionary.

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 6 2022 21:42 utc | 89

@Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 6 2022 20:05 utc | 66

librul 42

Snake oil has long been the cure all for everything. Supermarket health section shelves are packed with various brand managed and marketed snake oils. Often they work wonders on healthy people.
US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health. that is where your link led. A fucking merica where they perfected the art of capitalising on the sick.

I think your brush is too broad.

Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 21:45 utc | 90

OT, But Important!
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/ann-wright/100264/tone-deaf-navy-lawsuit-wrongfully-calls-state-of-hawaii-shut-down-of-leaking-jet-fuel-tanks-erroneous

The US Justice (?) Department has sided with the US Navy in claiming that hundreds of families rushing into Hawaiian emergency rooms for treatment after imbibing water laced with jet fuel from enormous, leaking US Navy tanks are being “Erroneous, Arbitrary, Capricious, and an Abuse of Discretion; Clearly Unwarranted” for filing a lawsuit demanding that the Navy stop poisoning their only source of drinking water.

(still think that Merrick Garland is on our side re Trump?)

If you can contain your outrage after reading this account, you’re a tougher man than I am . . .

Posted by: AntiSpin | Feb 6 2022 21:50 utc | 91

@Posted by: suzan | Feb 6 2022 21:26 utc | 84

Well that is interesting, thx.

Another nail in the coffin to the two years long approach to this pandemic.

Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 21:50 utc | 92

Posted by: DaveGood | Feb 6 2022 20:59 utc | 76

As with all illnesses emotions and mental factors play a big role in how people cope, but that does not mean the disease does not exist.

Science is moving towards identifying clear markers for Long COVID and the disease once known as Chronic fatigue Syndrome (it has another now but I cannot recall it). It appears to relate to the way the immune system responds to the initial disease. Perhaps now with so many affected treatments will follow and give hope to those previously thought to be malingerers.

Now in the 1980s RSI was the go to disease for the workshy. Or at least so I thought. However I went to a new job and there was an employee known to have the condition and to have taken time off. She was however hard working and committed and very competent. I began to question my assumptions. She was I admit of a tense personality.

Then personally, keen to prove myself in a new job, I started to work very late to master a very new computer program (forgotten its name now) but it involved lots of clicking with a mouse. I was a newbie to all PC stuff (as were most people) and I had never used a mouse. There was some competition/hostility with a rival employee, so I was tense. I worked like this over a period of less that 10 days- three late nights i think- cold as because the aircon had gone off. I worked in the days too. Perhaps all told I worked for 40-50 hours on this program.

Woke up one morning and I could not raise my arm above my head. Agonising pain. I was way, way too embarrassed to admit I had a problem and just dialed down my use of the program Ventura????). After a few days the pain was less severe, but still hung around. I did not tell my employers, my only step was to tell my Doctor, just to get some sort of a record, in case it flared up again and became serious.

After this however, I was no longer dismissive of RSI claims and while I accept there was some shirking, a lot of hysteria and panic, I recognised that for many it was a severe and debilitating illness. Luckily for me I did not need to work like that again for some time, and I learned to be careful - especially about working in the cold. probably had a similar thing a year ago - too much driving at night plus PC use. Could not hold a cup in my right hand. It did not heal quickly- in fact I only JUST now as I type realised that this morning I cannot feel it.

Posted by: watcher | Feb 6 2022 22:00 utc | 93

@27 Pacifica Advocate | Feb 6 2022 17:02

NHS has been going down the plughole for at least 30 years now. Each government has attacked it mercilessly. This is compounded by nurses who are career oriented as opposed to patient oriented and doctors who just don't care.

A recent announcement by an opposition MP suggested using the private sector to catch up on operations after COVID lockdowns. The hilarity is those private doctors are in fact NHS doctors working extra hours for cash...

It's the British Rail game. The service is driven into the floor willingly so it can be sold off to the private sector who will make it all better. The trains are not better btw.

Posted by: Some Random Passerby | Feb 6 2022 22:05 utc | 94

@Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 6 2022 21:16 utc | 80

I take carnosine whenever I can afford it; it's one of the most expensive amino acids for whatever reason.

Ditto

I have had some carnosine in my cabinet for years, but only took it occasionally as it is so expensive.
That changed last month when I read that it postpones cataracts by years. We will all experience cataracts,
but to be able to push that out by years, that is for me! (I am the same age as oldhippie.)
That, as you are probably aware, is just one item on it's long list of attractive benefits.
I am going to bite the bullet and pay for regular use.

The price for carnosine is all over the place depending upon where you get it. The most expensive that I have come across
is from, surprisingly, Nootropics Depot, a highly respected source (verify yourself, of course).
The cheapest is from Now Foods, with Walmart in second place.
(Walmart?! Who would do that!?!) Now Foods is an opaque company, which makes me concerned.
Walmart resells Belle Chemical's carnosine. Belle Chemical is not much more than a post office box in Montana, best as I can
tell. Likely, Belle Chemical buys bulk from *wherever* is cheapest and repackages it under their own label. Belle Chemical
offers no evidence of third party quality control testing of their products. By the way, maybe you buy Doctor's Best brand for certain items; they were bought out by a Chinese
company just a few years ago. Thought you would want to know.

Have you tried your coluracetam yet?

Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 22:39 utc | 95

@20 William Haught
Lol, and in 2030 they'll retry Grenada, and fail.

That said, from the perspective of my rotten shithole of Germany, have not the least reason for arrogance. With an FM who in May 2020, before the Atlantic Council, bragged "my Grandpa fought for the unity of Europe at the River Oder in Winter 1945".

Not only she did not get the historical facts straight, not even the dates. In Winter 45, her Grandpa and his Nazi Wehrmacht and SS comrades did not fight at the River Oder, which the Red Army reached in March 45. Asserting that her Grandparents "made it possible that Poland and Germany now live in peace" is a somewhat frivolous interpretation of the extermination of 20% ofthe 1939 Polish population, stopped by the very Red Army her praised Grandpa fought against.

But so what, just to mention. https://youtu.be/SZeSMmLWr6A

Posted by: aquadraht | Feb 6 2022 22:46 utc | 96

Watcher @ 92:

The name you're looking for, for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, is Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

The article I linked to lists a number of potential causes and these include influenza, COVID-19 and the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine. The Oxford / AstraZeneca vaccine has also been linked to Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

Posted by: Jen | Feb 6 2022 22:53 utc | 97

@Posted by: suzan | Feb 6 2022 21:26 utc | 84

Omg, I misread your post. I thought you were saying that covid tests are telling people that they are negative
when instead they are positive, and that this is happening 1/3 or 1/2 of the time with covid tests.

Your articles don't say that.
[English translation via Google]
https://www-ssi-dk.translate.goog/aktuelt/nyheder/2022/hver-tredje-voksne-dansker?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

The article says the Danes are testing blood from blood donors. Examination of blood samples shows a higher prevalence
of previous infection by covid in the general population than is indicated by covid testing of covid suspects.

Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 23:02 utc | 98

@82 Tom Q
You are mixed up on who supports the Ukrainian Nazis and where that support comes from. The Canadian Truckers are similar to Tucker Carlson's audience. They want nothing to do with the Ukrainian Nazi element, and prefer we stay neutral and uninvolved.

The bad thing about those folks is they do feel we should be confronting China.

Posted by: Jason | Feb 6 2022 23:05 utc | 99

Looks like the Canadian Truckers are in the eye of the beholder.

For me they represent an anti-authoritarian, anti-totalitarian urge.

Posted by: librul | Feb 6 2022 23:13 utc | 100