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February 18, 2022
Open Thread 2022-14

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Posted by: retiredmecheng | Feb 19 2022 5:43 utc | 279
Should the glutton that lives on a diet of KFC & Coca Cola do the honourable thing, and elect to self-treat at home?
The alcoholic? The risk takers?
Surely they should have the courage of their convictions.
So you are not an obese alcoholic drug abuser but you decide to drive your motor vehicle in the rain? You knowingly expose yourself to an increased risk of an accident. Rather than go to the hospital surely its better if you self treat at home. Courage of your convictions and all that.
Where do you want to stop?

Posted by: ted001 | Feb 19 2022 7:29 utc | 301

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 19 2022 6:45 utc | 290
Thanks for your, as usual, valuable information, I am always happy to see you here.
Regards,

Posted by: Paul | Feb 19 2022 7:33 utc | 302

Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 4:20 utc | 257
Possibly, the corrosive nature of potash on shipping vessels/containers may reduce the abundance of options available to ship it – especially when switching to new destinations. Also, it may restrict the possibilities of shipping it as return cargo (Eastbound) on the BRI trains.

Posted by: marsal | Feb 19 2022 7:34 utc | 303

Ukraine Pipeline explosion
Gas TSO of Ukraine. @GasTSOua
Given the news about the explosion of the pipeline in Luhansk, GTSOU informs:
§ Gas transit is not being implemented through the temporarily occupied territory;
§ Gas infrastructure on these territories is disconnected from the Ukrainian GTS;
We continue to fulfill transit obligations.
@JavierBlas
After the pipeline “explosion” in Eastern Ukraine tonight, RIA Novosti now reports that **95 clients** were disconnected from the gas network. That’s it: ninety five clients. The name of the pipeline? It doesn’t have one. Just a small, local distribution pipe.
…I’m pretty sure that if there’s a gas leak on my London street, British Gas would cut the gas supply to far more than 95 clients.
…No, the mighty Druzhba oil pipeline isn’t anywhere near Luhansk, the city in eastern Ukraine where social media is reporting an explosion.
Nowhere near (the blue dot is Luhansk). [map in tweet]
If a pipeline has explode there, isn’t Druzbha (so European supplies are no affected)

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 7:37 utc | 304

TAKING UP BED SPACE means death for someone else, say with a heart attack, and guess what?
No bed space, so, leave’em in the hallway. This scenario has occurred because some believe the BS about vaccines. Severity, my god man, that’s the whole f’ing ball game…
Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 19 2022 4:50 utc | 263
You are from the US, I gather. Given the joke of a health care system there, you are probably right, but for the rest of humanity, the omicron variant has caused a great reduction in hospitalization compared to previous variants. Hospitals and ICUs are no where near unduly stressed. Certainly, this is the case in Canada. Try not to project your own country’s health care incomptence on everyone else.
Perhaps, you should educate yourself with some John Campbell videos https://www.youtube.com/user/Campbellteaching

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 19 2022 7:59 utc | 305

Posted by: retiredmecheng | Feb 19 2022 5:43 utc | 279
The fact is that the weakest part of the Western health care approach for Covid was early treatment, which mostly could have been done at home. Instead, health care officials sent people home without treatment so they would become sicker, and then need to be hospitalized. In most cases, this hospitalization probably would have been unnecessary if proper early treatment was given at home.
In Turkey, I was provided with Favipiravir and an antibiotic plus a five day treatment plan to be carried out at home. It worked fine. No need for a hospital bed.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 19 2022 8:17 utc | 306

Grieved #290
Perhaps this might inform your inquiry.

The US, considered the richest economy in the world, has the highest rates of coronavirus deaths. At current count, they have lost over 220K people. Most poor countries in the Third World have seen minimal deaths in comparison. Why, we must ask?
Rwanda, for instance, seems to have adopted very good public health measures. Their air flights are still operational. People are taking precautions and safety measures which make travel safe and easy to monitor possibly infectious individuals.
In the US, by comparison, even masks are a major issue. People throw hysterical fits when asked to leave a store if they don’t have a mask on. There are videos of people lying and saying they have a medical condition in order to get an exemption. The tantrums of Americans laid bare their political stupidities. This is a key reason for high infections and deaths, but not the only one.

I used “iatrogenic disaster” as my search term on lazyweb (now Andi) and the above was top of the list. Perhaps some detailed research into this subject will held develop an expose for our times.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 8:20 utc | 307

If you have a strong stomach.
The tweets and # for Munich Security Conference:
https://twitter.com/MunSecConf
https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSC2022
One session of interest… food security
Seed Change Needed: Ensuring Food Security
Komödie
David Beasley
Executive Director, United Nations World Food Programme
Cem Özdemir
Federal Minister of Food and Agriculture, Federal Republic of Germany
Mariam bint Mohammed Saeed Hareb Almheiri
Minister of Climate Change and Environment, United Arab Emirates
Werner Baumann
Chairman, Bayer AG
1st Comment: Cindy McCain
Ambassador, Permanent Representative of the U.S. Mission to the UN Agencies in Rome
2nd Comment: Stergomena Tax
Minister of Defence and National Service, United Republic of Tanzania
Moderator: Boris Ruge
Ambassador, Vice-Chairman of the Munich Security Conference
Roundtable (by special invitation only)
Winds of Change: The Geoeconomics of Climate Change
Now is the time for yesterday’s man to stay the hell away from the party…..
They really don’t want Ze to crash their party. Intriguing to see who is tweeting him to stay away. [hint. Some of the most compromised RUSSIARUSSIARUSSIA Trump conspiracy constructors.:
Dmitri Alperovitch. @DAlperovitch
If Zelensky and his ministers leave Ukraine today for #MSC2022, it presents Russia with an enticing opportunity to launch an invasion while the leadership is out of the country. They can also make it difficult for them to return by shutting down Ukrainian air space.
>>> Zach Basu. @zacharybasu. 11h. A source close to Zelensky tells me that as of now, the president still plans on leaving Ukraine to attend the Munich Security Conference. twitter.com/kaitlancollins…
Toooooo late:
Munich Security Conference. @MunSecConf. Feb 16. We’re looking forward to welcoming President @ZelenskyyUa. back to the MSC stage at this critical time for #Ukraine. #MSC2022
[so he was on the official speaker program (obviously booked month’s ahead), but hours out “they”/“some” are pressing him to stay home and mind the fort.
Have they no clue how much this tricky-dicky loves being centre stage! ]
Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya. @Tsihanouskaya. 14h. What happens in Europe matters to the world. I am so glad Australian FM @MarisePayne made the journey to discuss the crisis in Belarus & support for the repressed in our country. And for once, I wasn’t the one who traveled the furthest to be here. #MSC2022 [pic]
Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya. @Tsihanouskaya 18h. Won’t deny it’s thrilling to meet such legends like @BillGates. I was happy to have a brief exchange at #MSC2022. Belarus has great potential and professionals, and with the right guidance, it could be a wonderful platform for many world companies.
Secretary Antony Blinken. @SecBlinken Great to meet once again with Belarusian opposition leader Sviatlana @Tsihanouskaya. We stand with those on the side of democracy in Belarus and their vision for their country’s future.
[Hey, weren’t they referring to her as Belarus president-elect in “exile” or similar nonsense at the time of the Belarus election?]
Treats yet to be tweets:
Kamala Harris hagiograph;
Main Stage I: Statement & Conversation
In the Spotlight: The US on the International Stage
Conference Hall
Kamala D. Harris
Vice President, United States of America
Moderator: Wolfgang Ischinger
Ambassador, Chairman of the Munich Security Conference
Main Stage I: Statement & Conversation
In the Spotlight: The UK on the International Stage
Conference Hall
Boris Johnson
Prime Minister, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Moderator: Wolfgang Ischinger
Ambassador, Chairman of the Munich Security Conference
Main Stage I: Statement & Conversation
Europe’s Permacrisis: Ukraine and European Security
Conference Hall
Volodymyr Zelensky
President, Ukraine
Moderator: Christiane Amanpour
Chief International Anchor, CNN London
This session already held:
See the Bill Gates comments about omicron
Main Stage I: Panel Discussion
Get Well Soon: Finding a Way Out of the Pandemic
Conference Hall
Scene Setting: Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus Director General, World Health Organization
Mélanie Joly
Minister of Foreign Affairs, Canada
Ann Linde
Minister of Foreign Affairs, Kingdom of Sweden
Bill Gates
Co-Chair, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
Comfort Ero
President and Chief Executive Officer, International Crisis Group
Moderator: Hadley Gamble Anchor and Reporter, CNBC
Someone has a sense of twisting the knife[given Trump’s disaster in “negotiations” with Iran] (and others)…….
Main Stage II: Statement & Conversation
The Art of the Deal: Iran and the Future of the JCPOA
Königssaal
Hossein Amir Abdollahian
Minister of Foreign Affairs, Islamic Republic of Iran
1st Comment: Simon Coveney
Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Defence, Republic of Ireland
Moderator: Roula Khalaf
Editor, Financial Times
And here’s another to put on the watch list.
Last day, last session. How many will have skipped out early [that’s been the case at all the conferences I’ve attended] or, who will stay and be part of the sidelines discussions. ? Intriguing.
Abraham Accords: Peace by Piece
Benny Gantz
Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense, State of Israel
Anwar Mohammed Gargash [virtual]
Diplomatic Advisor to the President, United Arab Emirates
Abdulla Bin Ahmed Al Khalifa
Under Secretary for Political Affairs, Kingdom of Bahrain
1st Comment: Hannah Neumann
Chairwoman of the Delegation for Relations with the Arab Peninsula, The Greens/EFA Parliamentary Group, European Parliament
Moderator: Souad Mekhennet
International Security Correspondent, The Washington Post

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 8:30 utc | 308

Iatrogenic disaster ….
Last on that search I cited above is this.

The 20th-century social critic Ivan Illich broadened the concept of medical iatrogenesis in his 1974 book Medical Nemesis: The Expropriation of Health[23] by defining it at three levels.
First, clinical iatrogenesis is the injury done to patients by ineffective, unsafe, and erroneous treatments as described above. In this regard, he described the need for evidence-based medicine 20 years before the term was coined.[24]
Second, at another level social iatrogenesis is the medicalization of life in which medical professionals, pharmaceutical companies, and medical device companies have a vested interest in sponsoring sickness by creating unrealistic health demands that require more treatments or treating non-diseases that are part of the normal human experience, such as age-related declines. In this way, aspects of medical practice and medical industries can produce social harm in which society members ultimately become less healthy or excessively dependent on institutional care. He argued that medical education of physicians contributes to medicalization of society because they are trained predominantly for diagnosing and treating illness, therefore they focus on disease rather than on health. Iatrogenic poverty (above) can be considered a specific manifestation of social iatrogenesis.
Third, cultural iatrogenesis refers to the destruction of traditional ways of dealing with, and making sense of, death, suffering, and sickness. In this way the medicalization of life leads to cultural harm as society members lose their autonomous coping skills. It is worth noting that in these critiques “Illich does not reject all benefits of modern society but rejects those that involve unwarranted dependency and exploitation.”[25]

This seems like it could be a productive inquiry.
I am disturbed that all those online yak yak yak about human rights court and Nuremberg etc still seem bound by inertia.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 8:36 utc | 309

Humour relief
EU’s Ursula von der Leyen experiences another Sofagate
https://twitter.com/ViktorDanek_/status/1494630445748731907
Ugandan Foreign Minister Jeje Odongo appeared to walk past von der Leyen at a photo op, with Odongo apparently offering only a little acknowledgment and no handshake to the Commission president.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 8:37 utc | 310

One session of interest… food security
Seed Change Needed: Ensuring Food Security
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 8:30 utc | 306
The conference misspelled Ensnaring.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 19 2022 8:56 utc | 311

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 8:36 utc | 307
I think this may have been the link you wanted. It has the quotation.
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Iatrogenesis

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 19 2022 9:05 utc | 312

@uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 6:44 utc | 289
>>Peel off the allies of that adversary.
And I think that agenda will be dead in water if Russia allows the destruction of the LDNR residents’ livelihoods. It’s not like people in the Middle East are pining “If only we could live like the Syrians.” Look at RT right now, playing up the heroics of the Donbass evacuation. What will the Euros think of that? “Losers” Nobody among Euro elites, people who count and get briefing papers, takes this “Russian aggression” meme seriously–or they’d have started building a serious land army in 2014. Moscow would need to explain to them that the Bear can protect them.
If this goes as it looks now then Dmitri Orlov will feel so smart, while Sweden and Finland rush ahead with NATO accession.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 19 2022 9:15 utc | 313

The elderly woman in the walker trampled by a police horse in Ottawa is now reported dead. Developing story to be confirmed.
Understand that if you want a needle in every arm, no exceptions, compliance required, this is how it is done.To get 80% or 90% compliance with anything the threat of violence, the threat of death has to be there every hour of every day. You can talk about misinformation and bad actors and science deniers as much as you like. If you are going to force people to think as you do and do as you do then admit it. You are ready to kill. Ready to kill a grandmother in a walker.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 19 2022 9:18 utc | 314

If the covidiots here did not exist, the Fascist empire would find it necessary for you to exist. & here you are. Spin doctors of idiocy that make that make status authorities preferable. The Lunatic Fringe Sovereign Freemen on the Land Citizens presumed to dictate who they would form a new government with, deputized themselves to make arrests on their own `authority’, and issued an arrest warrant for the Prime Minister of Canada. Appreciated Chrystia Freeland coming down on hard with both jackboots on you trash. Canadian Freedom Movement from your anus.

Posted by: Laurence | Feb 19 2022 9:22 utc | 315

Ma Laoshi #311
Well, bold tactics can be successful but in a way this is Russia’s game to lose. They are cautious long players IMO and seem to rigorously avoid staking all on a single game. I am not betting on any certain outcome here. But I am betting the process will get down and dirty.
Blue Dotterel #310
Thank you.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 9:38 utc | 316

FakeHippie [*supra*]
The old lady is not dead. Unlike the mickey-mouse Covidiot Sovereign Shitizen who spooked the horse by charging it dragging a bystander with him, the horse didn’t lay one hoof on her. Get out of here with your spin.

Posted by: Laurence | Feb 19 2022 9:42 utc | 317

@ 315
So far I have three reports of death. They could all be wrong.
You would have put horses in that that crowd. So you support whatever happens next. If there is a problem invent a story about a Sovereign Citizen and blame your reckless conduct on look over there.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 19 2022 9:51 utc | 318

Posted by: farm ecologist | Feb 19 2022 3:16 utc | 244
Good questions. There are others:
Why did Trudeau not take any action when the convoy was forming up and in-transit? It takes a week to drive across Canada. Trudeau took no action despite news reports on the size of the protest and its intent.
With regard to noise and inconvenience to the public –
– the truckers agreed to stop honking air horns
– the truckers agreed to open passage lanes for emergency vehicles
– the truckers agreed to move trucks out of residential areas.
– Canada’s COVID restrictions were amongst the most severe. Not as bad as Austria, Australia, and NZ, but still draconian, confused, and lacking support from science.
The truckers were also confused. They lacked cogent leadership and the clear articulation of their grievances. In essence, after 2 years of changing state diktat they were fed up with the whole business and wanted to let the Government know.
In Canada health is the responsibility of the provincial governments not Trudeau’s Federal government. The Feds are responsible for international travel (trucks, airlines, automobiles) and inter-provincial travel. With the outbreak, Trudeau seized the opportunity to be the “public face” holding daily “empathetic” press conferences. He gained great public exposure but achieved little apart from making himself the chief target as the pandemic dragged on and on and became more tiresome, burdensome, and the government response increasingly futile.
There is not much the state can do to prevent you getting wet when it rains. Trudeau jumped at the opportunity to advance himself, treated the pandemic as a personal PR exercise, and basically spent his time saying “Its raining. I feel your wetness. We can get through this together” while participating in a full blown shut down of both economy and society while justifying the shut-downs by fear mongering and bad science.
Lastly he publicly encouraged the VAXed to express hostility towards the VAX hesitant and demonstrated himself to be a wimpish PR idiot by refusing to speak with the truckers while at the same time publicly vilifying them as racist, nazi, white supremacist, treasonous, insurrectionists. In reality they were just fed up average Canadians forced to make a living without being able to work from the comfort of home with a mac in one hand and a latte in the other.
To the degree that the truckers pulled any support it came from all those persons who provide essential services to the mac and latte class – the nursing and hospital staff, the police, food store staff and all the delivery people kept busy supporting the mac and latte class. In essence we are looking at a class war between the “deplorable” service workers and those they serviced. Trudeau is an effete, narcissistic, good hair dude who has demonstrated his complete incapacity and utter lack of any form of leadership skills or any intellectual understanding of the problems he created for both himself and the country.

Posted by: Sushi | Feb 19 2022 10:00 utc | 319

You get your truth exclusively from the covidiot twitterati, you will be completely ignorant of what actually happened/happens, Ol’ hippie. Cordeliers, Bartlett, Byzantina … selectavision is a liabilty. People on horseback can see over the front line of covidiots. Those horses are good at NOT stepping on people.

Posted by: Laurence | Feb 19 2022 10:09 utc | 320

Posted by: blues | Feb 19 2022 4:08 utc | 251

I think the fascist Pervasive Shadow Dictatorship (PSD) simply wants to get Russia to attack the Ukronazis

. . . and do it before the US State of the Union address on March 1st as otherwise Brandon will look like a duffus when he proclaims he “won” and defeated the “Evil Poutine.”
The Evil Poutine, having a decent grasp of geo-politics, will simply wait until March 2nd before making his riposte.

Posted by: Sushi | Feb 19 2022 10:18 utc | 321

too scents | 309
The conference misspelled…. “Ensnaring”.
Well. Ain’t THAT a Freudian quip

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 10:29 utc | 322

Unz review looks at how a genteel report on why the Ukraine invasion mania is all about Germany turned the site on fire and attracted a flood of interest. Ron Unz discusses this and other topics that are red hot at this time and his experiment in presenting more video material through Rumble.
This report is very much worth the read.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 10:43 utc | 323

Says here truckers are the tip of the spear:
The Realignment: https://brownstone.org/articles/patricians-vs-plebeians-the-realignment/

Posted by: Sparrow | Feb 19 2022 10:44 utc | 324

On horses and protest. A pocket of marbles to drop on the ground can have a stabilising effect on the power relationship.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 10:45 utc | 325

Just rode to the gas pump and out of the fumes like a genie appeared petite bimbo fraulein Baerbock telling all Europeans that we have to pay a price just to poke the bear and support the grandchildren of collaborators to win the battles that their nazi grandparents lost. Sure ministress Lena, the chauffeur does the pumping. What a bunch of deranged clowns.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 19 2022 10:47 utc | 326

Covid update from India
The total no of cases per day is declining day by day. At present it is about 20000 cases with Kerala contributing around 1/3 cases. For the rest of the country all rules are being relaxed, everything is open and natural immunity seems to have taken over. Still the government is pressing for booster doses and mask mandates but people are fedup and all rules are on books only.
The way the things are going the covid scare is going to die down unless directions come from abroad to rake it up to jab everyone and start a new wave.

Posted by: R M Rao | Feb 19 2022 10:51 utc | 327

Sushi | Feb 19 2022 10:00 utc | 317
“Trudeau is an effete, narcissistic, good hair dude who has demonstrated his complete incapacity and utter lack of any form of leadership skills or any intellectual understanding of the problems he created for both himself and the country.”
Of course I agree with you but….
be careful there. He is not a “victim”. Just like too many in the “Governing Caste”, he is a weakling put in as a point man (woman) for those who are trying to change our societies into an Orwellian dreamscape.
Others of the same ilk are Scott Morrison (Aus), Ardern (NZ) and even Zelenski. They will do anything to keep their positions and illusions about themeselves alive. “Weak” personalities in a situation that glorifies their whims and diktats.
****
Note that the 5 Canadian Banks who had ATM “outages” were just changing the Software. Much as Modi did in India before he “defunded” the money that the majority of the poor/individuals used, and kept as a reserve (The 500 rupee note). This was to “stop an anticipated Bank run”. That many in the countryside didn’t even learn about the elimination of their commonly used notes until too late, was a feature – not a bug. Many starved. You can see the same disdain for people in Canada nowadays.
I presume different, smaller sums will be allowed, with limits at any one point. (There will be some limits already, but they will now be controlled from a central “Gestapocracy”).

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 19 2022 11:04 utc | 328

The Canadian Parliament has been suspended by Trudeau.
He has exercised his authority under the emergency powers act.
Covidiots can include Prime Ministers I see.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 11:08 utc | 329

From the Intel Slava Telegram channel:
https://t.me/intelslava/19117
Anyone still thinks Russia should stay put if this happens? Putin cultists or sane humans, anyone?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 19 2022 11:18 utc | 330

Video of woman reported to be a senior indigenous citizen who was trampled hy a police horse in Ottawa, Canada as part of Trudeau’s assertion of Emergency Act.
https://youtu.be/AsN-5EFM2FU
Caution – may be distrubing

Posted by: Sushi | Feb 19 2022 11:37 utc | 331

BP #328
I assume Russia will exercise force to prevent a genocide, maximum forcr to destroy the Azov team and its running dogs, and further force to decapitate the snake.
All else is posture and bluster.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 11:38 utc | 332

Seems Ukraine couldn’t get to step one of Minsk.
Ukraine’s special operations force has unveiled a fleet of indigenous “Punisher” stealth attack drones.
The catapult-launched electric vehicle carries three powerful munitions capable of damaging military vehicles within a radius of 50 meters (164 feet).
At 2.28 meters (7.5 feet) wide, the unmanned aerial vehicle can fly up to 30 miles (48.2 kilometers) at a maximum altitude of 396 meters (1,300 feet) controlled by a ground pilot with a laptop computer, The Sun reported.
The aircraft has a maximum speed of 125 miles (201 kilometers) per hour and releases its explosive immediately after it locks on target. The British daily added that the munition can be preset to either burst into shrapnel or a ball of fire.
The Punisher flies alongside a smaller reconnaissance drone, the Spectre, which helps it identify targets.
“This weapon’s power is its stealth capability,” Engineer Eugene Bulatsev told The Sun.
According to the manufacturer, the drone has been deployed against the country’s pro-Russian rebels since 2016, executing “hundreds” of successful missions.
“It has been causing havoc behind pro-Russian lines on Donbas for years because the enemy has no idea what has hit them.
“It’s relatively small and light enough to be undetectable to radar and you can’t see or hear it once it’s airborne which makes it a nightmare on the battlefield.
“What’s more, it can drop three bombs at a time or hit three separate targets then return to base to be reloaded and sent back into battle within minutes.”

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Feb 19 2022 11:44 utc | 333

@oldhippie | Feb 19 2022 9:18 utc | 312

The elderly woman in the walker trampled by a police horse in Ottawa is now reported dead. Developing story to be confirmed.

I hope this isn’t true, but if it is it must be a signal to everyone that in order to protect her health they had to kill her. Unless you are mentally challenged it must be clear that this is not about protecting health in any way, this is violent and murderous suppression. It is about a deeply sinister political agenda that is ready to kill to get its way.

Understand that if you want a needle in every arm, no exceptions, compliance required, this is how it is done.To get 80% or 90% compliance with anything the threat of violence, the threat of death has to be there every hour of every day. You can talk about misinformation and bad actors and science deniers as much as you like. If you are going to force people to think as you do and do as you do then admit it. You are ready to kill. Ready to kill a grandmother in a walker.

Yes, this is the bare truth,

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 11:48 utc | 334

Candace Owens, American conservative author, talk show host,Tweets for Biden to send American troops to Canada to rescue us from Trudeau Castro
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1494849704923967491
Toronto Sun Tweets fake photo of woman being trampled by police horse. It’s re-tweeted by FOX News’ Sara Carter. Her Twitter account has many tweets on the convoy.
https://twitter.com/TheTorontoSun/status/1494867817568550917
https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1494895121728421889
Canadian journalist attacked by protester during filming. According to journalist Glen McGregor harassment happens to every film crew every time they film.
https://twitter.com/MyleneCrete/status/1494874304814751744
https://twitter.com/glen_mcgregor/status/1494889792668119043

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 19 2022 11:50 utc | 335

@327 Parliament resumes today. 7 am to midnight
https://twitter.com/rachaiello/status/1494885637719314432

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 19 2022 11:53 utc | 336

I think I’ll just skip reading the rest of the comments:

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 19 2022 11:55 utc | 337

Russia is ready for war
All the preparations for a major invasion of Ukraine have now been made. The last stage of preparations is done today, when Putin will personally practice pressing the nuclear “button”.
The Russian attack or counter attack – if it is to come – may happen north of Kharkov. Russia has been offloading a huge number of main battle tanks at the railway station in Tomarovka, west of Belgorod and 27 km from the Ukrainian border. The tanks are then seen driving west along the road to Poltava. If the tanks are to take action, then the likely target is the Dnieper river, bypassing Kharkov from the west.
TicToc, or “TankToc” as it is now being called in Russia has tens of videos of the tanks leaving the Tomarovka railway station. I tried to search for Tomarovka on Google. Surprisingly the top results are about WWII. Two new books are among the top ten results. “From the Don to the Dnepr: Soviet Offensive Operations” by David M. Glantz from 2014 and “Retribution: The Soviet Reconquest of Central Ukraine, 1943” by Prit Buttar from 2019.
I have no idea what is anything will happen next. I am however sure nothing will happen until Monday February 21st when the Winter Olympics are over.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Feb 19 2022 12:00 utc | 338

The incentives to the hospitals is not Biden’s doing. It was the Trump administration and the Warp Speed program. Some 3000 $ for each covid diagnosis and some 35.000 $ for each patient who was put on ventilators. Guess what happened. I m not sure if remdesivir was part of the WS program but this drug is so toxic that even WHO says it shouldn’t be used for the treatment of covid.
Biden, etal. have been in charge for more than a year….
Is him and his admin asleep at the switch??? or…. just plain lazy…
OR….
Criminally involved in promoting genocide??
I’m saying, that there is more than sufficient data to prove BAU is
a criminal enterprise for the singular purpose of making a few big pharma goons insanely wealthy… by killing millions…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 19 2022 12:38 utc | 339

Women and kids being evacuated from Donbass into Russia. That didn’t happen even in the worst of the fighting between MH17 and Minsk. Five-eyes moving their embassies to Lvov, and Putin will be present for the strategic weapons exercises which I take to mean in the military command center…
All this coming after the Russian ultimatum and the China Russia statement. Makes me wonder if this is now a do or die effort by the US/UK to take Russia down.

Spot on….
It is!
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 19 2022 12:41 utc | 340

Women and kids being evacuated from Donbass into Russia. That didn’t happen even in the worst of the fighting between MH17 and Minsk. Five-eyes moving their embassies to Lvov, and Putin will be present for the strategic weapons exercises which I take to mean in the military command center…
All this coming after the Russian ultimatum and the China Russia statement. Makes me wonder if this is now a do or die effort by the US/UK to take Russia down.

Spot on….
It is!
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 19 2022 12:42 utc | 341

Women and kids being evacuated from Donbass into Russia. That didn’t happen even in the worst of the fighting between MH17 and Minsk. Five-eyes moving their embassies to Lvov, and Putin will be present for the strategic weapons exercises which I take to mean in the military command center…
All this coming after the Russian ultimatum and the China Russia statement. Makes me wonder if this is now a do or die effort by the US/UK to take Russia down.

Spot on….
It is!
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 19 2022 12:44 utc | 342

@Petri Krohn | Feb 19 2022 12:00 utc | 336
>>Russia is ready for war
Didn’t Aragorn say to King Theoden something like “Open war is upon, you, whether you want it or not?” So indeed better be ready.
I just don’t get why there isn’t a national TV address from Putin: “Final warning: knock it off in Donbass, or else.” Are we perhaps very close to that? Or have at least some factions in Moscow concluded that the world is better off without the UAF? That’d be a major, major decision.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 19 2022 12:46 utc | 343

Norwegian | 332
Ready to kill a grandmother in a walker.
And yet. We were forced into home arrest for close to a year.
To “save grandma” from catching a flu (an engineered flu, sure, but a flu)
Two weeks to flatten the curve
Two years to fatten the con

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 12:57 utc | 344

uncle tungsten | 323
A pocket of marbles to drop on the ground can have a stabilising effect on the power relationship.
That’s why I find it particularly loathsome that they use animals such as horses and dogs.
There are strategies to deal with both. But the animal, while a tool, is always an innocent.
The cruelty should be reserved and deployed against those who deserve it.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 13:04 utc | 345

Reply to 283
Biden and his handlers are frustrated that Putin doesn’t invade. Similar to Imperial Japan wishing for a great, final naval battle – that the US never provided. My puzzlement is about them looking like fools or false prophets when it all drags on without resolution.
It could be that they (and some here) believe their own propaganda claiming that Putin is a ‘thug’ amidst headlines that scream about his “ego”. They may think they can force him but he’s playing Fabian with them, cold bloodedly. Somebody should Photoshop Blinken with a vial in his hand talking to the UN, like Powell did.
The other bizarre aspect of this is the thoughtless commandeering of NSII by Biden and the Senate, as if it was their property, no question.
The full court press on Russia isn’t going to be enough if they don’t invade. The EU will drag its feet and keep pushing diplomacy and dragging it all along. And Russia can probably defend Donbass without any obvious invasion – with missiles and artillery at range.
The final factor is time, consistent with Fabian. It’s hard to say but inflation and stagnation threaten the US with Taiwan on the back burner and Biden will be forced to get an agreement with Iran to get gas prices down (and the Israeli lobby will scream). Also, the rise of crypto and cross border digital yuan hitting the dollar. Tick Tock….

Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 19 2022 13:30 utc | 346

Why Ukraine, why now? Here’s a clue from Bhadrakumar:
“ Iran and Russia are already throwing sand in the gears of the US sanctions regime. Both are now connected through the Russian SPFS (System for Transfer of Financial Messages) and the Iranian SEPAM (Iran’s financial telecommunications system) so as to bypass US-controlled systems. They are using a new system as an alternative to payments through SWIFT to protect themselves from Washington’s sanctions.
It is all about ditching the US dollar and protecting the two countries’ banks and bank-rollers from secondary sanctions! By the way, Tehran has joined the Russia-led free-trade zone, the Eurasian Economic Union. As things stand, the new system of payment between Iran and Russia and trade in local currencies are here to stay. The two neighbours have got used to their new system of payment and trade in local currencies and their partnership will continue even after the US lifts its sanctions and returns to the nuclear deal.
Importantly, Russia and Iran have proven that trade in local currencies works. They are officially circumventing unilateral and secondary sanctions imposed by the US, and have shown that it is much safer to bilaterally trade in local currencies instead of taking the dollar risk. To be sure, this will not be a short-lived project so long as Washington’s unilateral foreign policy practices continue. ”

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Feb 19 2022 13:33 utc | 347

@ uncle tungsten #272
That is my understanding too. Hauling by train all the way to the East has many advantages. There is no problem with handling 12 million tons of Potash per year by train. As an example, Canpotex has been doing this for decades. They now use dedicated custom (heavier gauge steel construction) hopper cars but they used regular grain cars in the beginning.

Each year, our Canpotex trains make approximately 650 trips to these ports, carrying approximately 12 million tonnes of potash through Canada’s rugged landscape and extreme weather conditions. Our longest trains are up to 205 railcars in length and can carry approximately 21,200 tonnes of potash.
Canpotex operates unique and custom railcars. Originally we used grain railcars to transport potash; however, in 1999 we worked with National Steel Car in Hamilton, Ontario to build a railcar that was specifically designed to manage the dense properties of potash. As a result, a new potash-specific railcar was developed which has enabled us to double the amount of potash transported by rail without adding any extra train trips on Canadian rail lines.

https://www.canpotex.com/how-we-move-potash/transportation-logistics
Here is a pic of a dedicated Canadian (Potash Corp) hopper car with 3 holds.
https://www.dreamstime.com/potash-corp-cargo-train-caboose-railroad-orange-potash-corp-cargo-train-caboose-traveling-down-railroad-tracks-image146056943
Here is a pic of a newer or restored hopper car with visible markings showing the Load Limit and Light Weights (Lbs)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potash#/media/File%3ACoveredHopperForPotashBoltonON.jpg

Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 19 2022 13:34 utc | 348

Petri Krohn 366
https://vk.com/wall-35961352_1279982
15 Feb at 1:30 pm
In recent days, residents of Belgorod have often seen military equipment on the roads of the region — this will soon end.
The Ministry of Defense officially announced that they are completing the exercises — and from Tuesday, units of the Southern and Western military Districts will begin returning to their permanent locations.
………..
That was Tuesday 15th, the day before the original invasion until next Tuesday.
Also a video of Russian military spokesman though I don’t speak Russian so no idea what he was saying but I guess the above is correct.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 13:40 utc | 349

By the way, that came up when I typed in military exercise Belgorod

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 13:42 utc | 350

Peter AU1 | 135
“By now all protesters would have been photographed at some point.”
True.

Digital Spartacus | 136 & ld | 142
Thanks a lot for the vote info! Much appreciated.
This is the first time I’m trying to deal with Canadian politics (which is embarrassing for someone who did English and North American studies). I have to say I’m having a hard time understanding things. It’s especially tough with the parties and where they come from, what agendas there are, who votes for which party and all that.
Am I right in assuming that the Liberal block will vote as one on granting emergency powers? And the NDP will go along with this? That’s 159 plus 25 “ayes”. Got the impression the 2 greens are also in favor.

To me, the way Trudeau describes the trucker protests sounds like ridiculous histrionics, through and through. As a German, I compare what I’m seeing in Ottawa to the usual aftermath of any top-level soccer game over here. There’s even a term dedicated to these face-offs between fans, it’s called the third half (dritte Halbzeit). So one of the things that I found amazing about the protests is that until yesterday, not a single person got injured, no windows got smashed, no garbage containers were set on fire. It’s preposterous to call for emergency powers on an assembly like that, no matter how technically unlawful it may be (again, something I cannot judge) or how dubious or even revolting one may find their messages and demands. And as to locals being disturbed, what locals can there be in downtown Ottawa? There’s water, parks, government buildings, museums, hotels, banks and shops where you can buy expensive Swiss watches. That’s it. Real people, families with kids and jobs with shift work? Come on.
Trudeau seems to be on auto pilot, really like a mindless drone. It’s kind of scary.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Feb 19 2022 13:52 utc | 351

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 19 2022 4:50 utc | 263
Very well said – thank you!
Last year we lost a beloved family member to the pandemic, and currently I have a parent who has been in the hospital for over a month who I have not been allowed to visit at all because of the overwhelming number of covid patients there.
To me there’s not that much difference between anti-maskers et al., and climate change deniers, and I shudder at the poor level of understanding of the scientific process among the general public.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Feb 19 2022 14:01 utc | 352

Sun Tzu 268
Those eastbound trains are interesting. From what I have read, China needs to import a lot of potash. around 5 million tons in 2019 according to this.
https://www.nationmaster.com/nmx/ranking/potash-fertilizer-imports
Missed your 268 comment earlier.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 14:03 utc | 353

How does Russia prove it is not going to invade, even if given a R2P compulsion?
It makes a ♟ retreat move! As the R2P move.
But..but…you can’t do that it’s in the Rules that only We decide.
You are supposed to send in your Knights and Queen so that the King is left exposed . Cheat boo hoo. Lol.
Zelensky probably got a whiff of who exactly will be the pawn sacrifice – himself – while all his supposed besties are in Munich waiting to be aghast at this assassination of ‘one of their own’ and happily sell it to their populations that they alone represent humanity (no more than 15% of it!).
He may even drive himself there and turn up like the dead astronaut at the end of that moon landing conspiracy film. Evading the kill on sight praetorians planning his martyrdom.
End result – Ukrainian depopulated even more. Russia populated further as all these will benefit from Russia and SCO and BRI increases in security. Economic, Health, Education , Housing, Jobs and Welfare.
The long planned partition revealed for what it always was. A sacrifice and resource capture to ‘Extend’ Russia.
2 days to the magic number 22022022. 😉

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 19 2022 14:17 utc | 354

It is my conviction that the Ukrainian government no longer controls anything in the country, not even the Ukrainian armed forces.
When human beings are corrupt and cowardly, they humbly submit to the dictates of those they consider powerful.
Like Macron and Scholz, who were humiliated by Biden and remain subservient to the overlord.
The CIA and MI6 advisers are commanding the operations to attack Donbass, stuck in their bunker, as they did in Syria, now using the Ukrainian Nazis as they used Daesh.

Posted by: Orlando | Feb 19 2022 14:23 utc | 355

Ventin263. Ok I get it now. You are like my father, too scared to think logically or rationally. I get it I just don’t subscribe. Don’t worry it will pass. Severity level could very easily be a demographic thing. In Canada u can follow the overwhelmed hospital hospital meme back too far to be coincidence pretty much each flu season. My family and I are fully vaxed. Myself against my will to stay employed and not have to get divorced. Each of us has had this thing, possibly more than once. Judging by personal experience and what’s actually gone on I’d say this Pandemic has been about profit, market share, and control. It seems to be most authoritarian in NATO centric and commonwealth, and vassal states. Notable exception being some red states to the south. We are experiencing a post truth dark age. I only hope they don’t kill to many more of us to get even more of what they already have.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Feb 19 2022 14:26 utc | 356

@269 I was suggesting that it was nuts for Putin
to do a test of nuclear missiles. Real actual test launches – real live missiles!
Real live missiles in the air during a time when the West’s military is on
heightened alert!

On 25 January 1995, the then-Russian President Boris Yeltsin became the first world leader in history to activate a “nuclear briefcase” – a satchel which contains the instructions and technology for detonating nuclear bombs.
Yeltsin’s radar operators had noticed that a rocket had been launched off the coast of Norway, and they watched uneasily as it rose into the sky. Where was it headed – and was it hostile? With the briefcase in his hands, Yeltsin frantically conferred with his top advisors about whether to launch a counter-attack. With minutes to decide, they realised it was headed out to sea and was therefore not a threat.
It later emerged that this was no nuclear strike, but a scientific probe, which had been sent to investigate the northern lights. Norwegian officials were left baffled that it caused such a commotion, because the launch had been publicly announced at least a month earlier.
Crucially, it doesn’t matter whether a nuclear strike is initiated because of a mix-up or a real threat – and once it’s been sent, it’s irreversible. “If the president responds to a false alarm, then he will have accidentally started a nuclear war,” says William Perry, who served as the US Secretary of Defense under former President Bill Clinton and the Undersecretary of Defense for the Carter administration. “There’s nothing he can do about that. The missiles cannot be called back and they cannot be destroyed.”

Do you trust that Western military units will all act sanely when they see Russian missiles in the air?
Putin should choose a different time for his missile tests.
Right now rabid foam is dripping from the mouths of the leaders of the West.

Posted by: librul | Feb 19 2022 14:33 utc | 357

The German Chancellor Olaf Scholz had better think carefully on what he does next with regards to Ukraine and Russia, for two-thirds of Germans support the Russian Nordstream II project and the supply of Russian gas.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 19 2022 15:04 utc | 358

@269 I was suggesting that it was nuts for Putin
to do a test of nuclear missiles right now. Real actual test launches – real live missiles!
Real live missiles in the air during a time when the West’s military is on
heightened alert!

On 25 January 1995, the then-Russian President Boris Yeltsin became the first world leader in history to activate a “nuclear briefcase” – a satchel which contains the instructions and technology for detonating nuclear bombs.
Yeltsin’s radar operators had noticed that a rocket had been launched off the coast of Norway, and they watched uneasily as it rose into the sky. Where was it headed – and was it hostile? With the briefcase in his hands, Yeltsin frantically conferred with his top advisors about whether to launch a counter-attack. With minutes to decide, they realised it was headed out to sea and was therefore not a threat.
It later emerged that this was no nuclear strike, but a scientific probe, which had been sent to investigate the northern lights. Norwegian officials were left baffled that it caused such a commotion, because the launch had been publicly announced at least a month earlier.
Crucially, it doesn’t matter whether a nuclear strike is initiated because of a mix-up or a real threat – and once it’s been sent, it’s irreversible. “If the president responds to a false alarm, then he will have accidentally started a nuclear war,” says William Perry, who served as the US Secretary of Defense under former President Bill Clinton and the Undersecretary of Defense for the Carter administration. “There’s nothing he can do about that. The missiles cannot be called back and they cannot be destroyed.”

Do you trust that Western military units will all act sanely when they see Russian missiles in the air?
Putin should choose a different time for his missile tests.
Right now rabid foam is dripping from the mouths of the leaders of the West.

Posted by: librul | Feb 19 2022 15:08 utc | 359

Peter AU1 @197, karlof1:

It sure would be interesting to watch though. Putin’s moves are always interesting and I think China will make some major moves in the not to distant future and that too I think will be interesting.

Agreed, but I have just one small detail to discuss. Nothing the Communist Party of China does can possibly be a surprise, other than maybe people being surprised that they do what they say they will do. President Xi, despite being the all new “Great Helmsman”, does not have the authority to do really major things on his own initiative. I mean, he could probably arrange for big and surprising things to happen, but that would be an abuse of his position. Xi has never committed such abuse before and I rather doubt his stated personal philosophy would allow it. Major things have to be decided by the Party, and that takes time and cannot happen in secret. You cannot get nearly a hundred million people to make a big decision without all kinds of pro-con position papers being published, studied, and debated.
If there is going to be something major coming from China then it will be due to some trigger point being hit. Ex:
China:“Cross this line and we will stomp you.”
India:“You’re just bullshitting and posturing like we do all the time with our silly peacock strutting. You won’t do anything!”
China:“…”
India:[Crosses the line and gets brutally stomped]
India:“Baawww! Why did you do that?”
China:[Returns to the line after chasing the Indians away]
China:“Like we said, cross this line and we will stomp you.”
India:“That’s totally a surprise!”
But of course it is not a surprise. Cultures that venerate lies and deception just find it surprising when others do what they say they will do.
There will be no surprises coming from China for those who pay attention to what China says. Unfortunately, the Empire has some attention deficit problems, and only listen to themselves anyway, so they will end up being surprised.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 19 2022 15:14 utc | 360

@librul | Feb 19 2022 15:08 utc | 356
>>real live missiles!
Umm dude what are you suggesting here. Yes they’re missiles, they go up in the air (indeed even above it) and all that. But “live” suggests a nuclear warhead?! I’m pretty sure that nuking Russia is low on Vlad’s to-do list; it’s just a dummy, most likely announced to the major powers to prevent the misunderstandings you fret about.
That said, from watching the Syrian war, I’m none to keen either on Russia showing off its toys. Most of the time it’s not a prelude to something horrible, but a substitute for doing anything concrete.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 19 2022 15:21 utc | 361

The perverted elite tying off another loose end that could’ve provided more information, but not now he has like, Epstein, been suicided.
“The former boss of a French model agency accused of rape and under investigation on suspicion of supplying underage girls to the late American financier Jeffrey Epstein has been found dead in prison.”
“The body of Jean-Luc Brunel, 75, was reportedly found hanging in his cell in the early hours of Saturday. The French prosecutors’ office confirmed the report and said an inquiry had been opened into the exact cause of death, but early indications pointed to suicide.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/19/jean-luc-brunel-held-on-suspicion-of-supplying-girls-to-epstein-found-hanged

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 19 2022 15:24 utc | 362

@ librul | Feb 19 2022 15:08 utc | 356
If I am not wrong, I believe that was a launch from Andøya. Let us that Western military units will all act sanely…

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 15:31 utc | 363

Sorry, just insert the missing word of choice: hope, trust, assume, … etc.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 15:37 utc | 364

Smoothiex12 discusses what’s at stake in the confrontation between the US and Russia- Europe itself. LDNR is a small but important part in a much bigger picture. That’s what the “Putin must invade” brigade don’t understand.
Here Is My Talking Head.

Posted by: Down South | Feb 19 2022 15:40 utc | 365

Now we know why the civilians have been evacuated:
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Pepe Escobar
@RealPepeEscobar
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4h
Donetsk intel managed to snatch the masterplan for the upcoming US-ordered Kiev blitzkrieg.
Donetsk’s Basurin says their main goal is to “cleanse” Donbass from Russian speakers – that is, those who have not been evacuated.
And to reach the Russian border in 2 days max.

Posted by: Down South | Feb 19 2022 15:44 utc | 366

@ Norwegian

Pepe Escobar
@RealPepeEscobar
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2h
Stultifyinberg’s Stupid-O-Meter has gone off the charts:
“If Russia wants less NATO at its borders it will get more NATO.”
Norwegians would do a service to humanity throwing this garbage off a fyord.

Posted by: Down South | Feb 19 2022 15:48 utc | 367

@355 RepublicofScotland
This is exactly why the US needs a drama in the Ukraine, to hopefully provoke a Russian response and say: Ah ha! We told you! Freaking Commie Ruskie rats! You can’t trust them! To make it politically impossible for the German government to go through with NS2, and votes are not relevant. It’s very unlikely a German government of any flavour would not be pro-US/NATO anyway.
I’m thinking the Kremlin will not respond until world opinion turns against then-undeniable Ukie aggression, and an emergency session is held in UNSC. With the inevitable US/UK veto on any action, they ‘ll claim moral high ground and go in anyway.

Posted by: Ant. | Feb 19 2022 15:50 utc | 368

BD @ 303; Thanks for the link, and the advice. Never hurts, no matter what, to add some new info to the mix. Yep, I’m a yank. Home of the most uninsured people in the industrialized world. Health care here works, if you’re wealthy or a former member of a good union. I’m part of the latter group, thankfully. As for me and mine, we’re all vaxed and boosted, with no negative effects, and no trips to the hospital. The future? Who knows? We’ll see. I’m 74, and still feel as well as a 74 yr. can expect. Same for the rest of my family. I find that, considering the differences in people, personal experience is the best guide for behavior.
Again, thanks for the link. I book marked them:)

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 19 2022 15:58 utc | 369

The power of propaganda

Five Times August
@FiveTimesAugust
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2h
This situation in Canada is fascinating because the whole thing has been documented live in real time with photo/video by those in attendance. You can literally see the truth with your own eyes and still, politicians and media straight up lie to your face and people believe it.

Posted by: Down South | Feb 19 2022 15:59 utc | 370

@Down South | Feb 19 2022 15:48 utc | 364
I can only apologize on behalf of my country. I never voted for that idiot.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 16:01 utc | 371

tannenhouser @ 354 said;”I’d say this Pandemic has been about profit, market share, and control. It seems to be most authoritarian in NATO centric and commonwealth, and vassal states.”
Can’t disagree with that take, however, we live in corporate world where EVERYTHING is about profit & market share, where the bad actors “never let a crisis go to waste”. And we’re ruled by bad actors. That fact doesn’t make Covid less real. What it does mean however, is the fact that our rulers will exploit it to divide the working classes. Just as they always do.
Have a good one..

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 19 2022 16:20 utc | 372

@ Peter AU1 #351
Yes, for every measure the combined West fires against economic integration and peaceful prosperity there is a countermeasure or judo move throw. If the Eurasia is serious about integrating economies without meddlesome sanctions, first stop using the US$. If Lithuania and Ukraine want to commit economic suicide by banning trade with neighbours there is a countermeasure. BPC already loads rail cars to go to a port facility in Lithuania. Why not send the hopper cars all the way due East, instead of unloading the hopper car and then using conveyance to a storage dome and then front end tractor loading to subsequent conveyance to a ship hold? Too many operations and steps that can be streamlined and optimized. The trains have to return East anyways (Silk Road) and the railroads are already built and interconnected.
Besides, these multimodal ports for bulk commodities have a collection of domes for storage and ship loading facilities with covered conveyors. To build a new facility in St. Petersburg to handle this additional volume of business (~ 12 million tonnes per annum ) will take a long while and the permitting phase duration is not insignificant.
China can build a dedicated custom built rail car fleet in no time if they so desire for the logistics of the 5 million tonnes of potash they import. They most likely already have a good chunk of them if their trade was via ports as the bulk commodity is transferred to rail cars from their respective ports. Trade could proceed by overland route without going through Suez. Recall that on 23 March 2021, the Suez Canal was temporarily blocked by the Ever Given running aground.

Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 19 2022 16:29 utc | 373

John Pilger has a piece up at Consortiom News (War in Europe & the Rise of Raw Propaganda) and the first line is

Marshall McLuhan’s prophecy that “the successor to politics will be propaganda” has happened.

Reading above quotes from Ivan Illich provided by uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 8:36 utc | 309 reminds me of my Future studies college experience where we read lots of Illich and McLuhan and others warning about what our world could become….and here we are.
I am heartened to see the God of Mammon cult being challenged by China/Russia because I would sure hate to see what is happening in the US/Canada become the new normal.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 19 2022 16:40 utc | 374

Posted by: ted001 | Feb 19 2022 7:29 utc | 301

Should the glutton that lives on a diet of KFC & Coca Cola do the honourable thing, and elect to self-treat at home?
The alcoholic? The risk takers?
Surely they should have the courage of their convictions.
So you are not an obese alcoholic drug abuser but you decide to drive your motor vehicle in the rain? You knowingly expose yourself to an increased risk of an accident. Rather than go to the hospital surely its better if you self treat at home. Courage of your convictions and all that.
Where do you want to stop?

Firstly, some facts. The health care system in Canada has been overwhelmed for much of the last 2 years. ICU units have been particularly stressed with covid patients, many of whom have previously elected not to be vaccinated. This is not/was not a hypothetical situation. This has caused countless deferred surgeries and treatments, and dissuaded countless others from getting early diagnosis for afflictions (cancer, cardio issues, etc).
Now if the anti-vaxxers have some mental health issues, then they have my sympathy, and maybe they should be treated with the same care that others are provided.
I am really interested in hearing the perspective of those on this blog who have elected to not be vaccinated. Do they feel that they should have equal rights to hospital treatment as those that elected to be vaccinated? How do they define “honourable”? And, if they are hospitalized and develop serious covid complications, and are told that in a few minutes that they are to be anesthetized to be intubated (with the distinct possibility of a one way journey (in on a bed and out in a box)), and they are asked if they have any thoughts they would like to share with their friends and family members, what would be going through their heads? Again, this is not a hypothetical scenario. It is playing out daily for hundreds of people every day in Canada, and for thousands in the US.
And another perspective I would like to hear more of is from the health care providers that are on the front line dealing with the pandemic. Is this perspective represented on this blog?

Posted by: retiredmecheng | Feb 19 2022 16:51 utc | 375

Sun Tzu 373
Brazil and India are two biggest importers of Belorussian potash and looking at a map it would definitely need shipping straight from the Baltics. India too, it looks as though the shortest route is shipping direct from the Baltic. Europe too must import a reasonable amount as they did not impose sanctions on the most commonly used grade. To send by rail to china then ship, it would be south east Asian and Asia pacific countries and Australia and New Zealand. Another thing to look at too would be the type of railcars used to art great to Europe. I have assumed that would be mostly if not all manufactured goods. I think a lot goes in standard shipping containers. I bought some used steel one time that had been used to pack goods into containers for back loads and if I remember correctly it was bulk fertilizer. It was all near new 50mm RHS cut to 2.4 meters to fit width ways in the container. It may have been something to do with a temporary wall near the doors so the container could be loaded with bulk fertilizer then the doors shut.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 16:56 utc | 376

@vetinLA #265
Hospitals in the US have never had any overflow issues related to COVID or anything else. Not during NY in the beginning, not during the 2020-2021 spike, not during the 2021-2022 let ‘er rip spike.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 19 2022 16:56 utc | 377

@retiredmecheng | Feb 19 2022 16:51 utc | 375

I am really interested in hearing the perspective of those on this blog who have elected to not be vaccinated.

You are asking people to state private, confidential health information. It is not advisable to give such information.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 16:58 utc | 378

RMB rising
RMB usage in international payments rises to record high 3.2 percent – What China Reads link to SWIFT

Information from the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) website on February 16 shows that in January this year, the RMB maintained its fourth place in the global payment ranking based on the amount of global payment currencies, with a record high of 3.2%, up from 2.7% in the previous month.

This is a big jump but obviously is only one month.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 19 2022 17:17 utc | 379

Climate models = crap: detailed look
Willis Eschenbach published a detail look at one of the climate models used to proclaim anthropogenic CO2 catastrophe: the GISS GCM ModelE
Meandering Through A Climate Muddle on WUWT

Like many such climate muddles, it was not designed before construction started. Instead, it has grown over decades by accretion, with new parts added, kluges to fix problems, ad-hoc changes to solve new issues, and the like. Or to quote one of the main GISS programmers, Gavin Schmidt, in a paper describing the ModelE:
The development of a GCM is a continual process of minor additions and corrections combined with the occasional wholesale replacement of particular pieces.
For an additional difficulty factor, as with many such programs, it’s written in the computer language FORTRAN … which was an excellent choice in 1983 when the MuddleE was born but is a horrible language for 2022.
How much has it grown? Well, not counting header files and include files and such, just the FORTRAN code itself, it has 441,668 lines of code … and it can only run on a supercomputer like this one.

So I thought I’d wander through the GISS model and see what I could find. I knew, from a cruise that I’d taken through the MuddleE code two decades ago, that they’d had trouble with “melt pools”. These are the pools of meltwater that form on top of the seasonal sea ice. They are important in calculating the albedo of the sea ice. In my previous cruise, I’d found that they’d put a hard time limit on the days during which melt pools could form.

It appears that they’ve improved the melt pond code because I can no longer find the hard limit on the days the melt ponds can form. Instead, they’ve put in the following code:

What this code does is to put up hard limits on the values for the albedo for sea ice and melt ponds, as well as specifying constant values for wet and dry snow on the sea ice. It specifies the limits and values for visible light (VIS), as well as for five bands of the near infrared (NIR1-5).
What this means is that there is code to calculate the albedo of the sea ice … but sometimes that code comes up with unrealistic values. But rather than figure out why the code is coming up with bad values and fixing it, the climate muddle just replaces the bad value with the corresponding maximum or minimum values. Science at its finest.

There are many more specific examples pulled straight from the code.
Net net: this GISS GCM ModelE is a kludgy mess with all manner of shortcuts and assumptions built into it. Some are reasonable, some are clearly not but the net result is that the model nowhere resembles “physics”.
Pay particular attention to the graph at the beginning: it shows results from 1000 runs of this model – and shows that it flies off into la la land frequently and easily. So even the so-called “accurate” runs are curated from a mess of junk.
There is no reason whatsoever to place any reliance on anything coming from such a model – particularly since they have never been tested against the real world. In fact, the models are likely untestable against the real world due to their iterative and likely non-deterministic (i.e. physics) / heuristic nature.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 19 2022 17:32 utc | 380

@ retiredmecheng #375
I know of an unvaccinated Canadian woman (in her late 70s ) who suffers badly from asthma but swears by her multiple health supplements. Last year she went to the UK to visit her sister, got Covid there and went to hospital but refused to be intubated. She survived and returned to Canada still unvaccinated. She is still alive living somewhere in GTA. My daughter is double vaccinated, went to UK and got Covid. I am still unvaccinated, Covid free and not planning to take any of the kill shots ever. Went to emergency room for a puncture wound on my hand. East Indian resident doctor tried to coerce me into taking the kill shot. I replied: “No thanks, I don’t want to be guinea pig for Pfizer & Moderna.” Other than that, I hardly use my Health Card.
I am a vaccine skeptic in general and suspicious of mRNA gene therapy in particular. I used to get the flu shots since they are peddled by Canadian & American employers which I used to work for. However, since it is / was a shot for the previous year’s prevailing flu strain and I was always sick with flu of the next strain, I decided to stop taking it. Since then, I stopped getting the prevailing flu.
My family physician heard my story but still managed to convince me to take the SHINGRIX vaccine and the booster. A while latter I got Renaud’s syndrome. I didn’t have proof that it was caused by the SHINGRIX vaccine and subsequent booster shot. But since then I became ever more convinced that constant flu vaccination and other vaccination isn’t smart nor helping the immune system. No one believed me then, but lo and behold it is now known that there is such thing called: Antibody Dependent Enhancement ( ADE). Here is the definition from wiki

Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), sometimes less precisely called immune enhancement or disease enhancement, is a phenomenon in which binding of a virus to suboptimal antibodies enhances its entry into host cells, followed by its replication.[1][2] The suboptimal antibodies can result from natural infection or from vaccination.

I am retired also and held an iron ring on my pinky finger.

Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 19 2022 17:35 utc | 381

@Norwegian #378
That poster may show some individual thought in other matters – but in the specific matter I engaged with him/her, there was none.
Clearly that entire discussion was just an excuse for said poster to trot out their media derived views.
In that discussion, it was 100% obvious that there could be no interaction since the other side had put zero thought, research or reasoning into the subject.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 19 2022 17:35 utc | 382

@Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 19 2022 15:21 utc | 361
Are you addressing me
or your strawman?

Posted by: librul | Feb 19 2022 17:37 utc | 383

@Norwegian #378
Speaking of the previous discussion – I posted a summary of Andrew Dessler’s talk with Joe Rogan on the previous Open Thread.
The funniest part? Andrew Dessler explicitly stated that Koonin’s science was sound. The entire rest of the talk (99%) was Dessler delving into myriad non-climate science areas to push the CAGW agenda.
So much for “its the science”.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 19 2022 17:38 utc | 384

@Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 19 2022 17:35 utc | 381
Thx (/sarcasm) I don’t want Raynaud’s syndrome.
Didn’t want to worry about the SHINGRIX vaccine,
as I just got a prescription and expect to have that
vaccine in the next few days.
A close family member just came down with shingles
and my next door neighbor just got over it.
I did a search and there are lots of articles about
a possible Covid link. Some articles implicate the covid vaccine,
others covid itself. Stay tuned, definitive answers are probably
years away.

Posted by: librul | Feb 19 2022 17:49 utc | 385

@c1ue | Feb 19 2022 17:32 utc | 380

There is no reason whatsoever to place any reliance on anything coming from such a model – particularly since they have never been tested against the real world. In fact, the models are likely untestable against the real world due to their iterative and likely non-deterministic (i.e. physics) / heuristic nature.

In simple terms these models are the same as those used for short term weather forecasts, they quickly diverge and become useless for more than a few days, often sooner. Somehow these “scientists” claim that the same models have more predictive power decades into the future. It is self-evident nonsense.
I used to follow Eschenbach and others (e.g. Steve McIntyre) 12-14 years ago. It was crystal clear then that the GISS models and others had no scientific value whatsoever, except the tests against the real world have shown them to be all wrong.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 17:50 utc | 386

Hospitals and ICUs are no where near unduly stressed. Certainly, this is the case in Canada.
Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 19 2022 7:59 utc | 305
Please stop spreading misinformation. Hospitalizations in Canada in the current wave have been double what they were in previous ones, covid patients in ICUs just as numerous, and the daily death rate has been equal to the two largest previous waves in May, 2020 and January, 2021.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Feb 19 2022 17:51 utc | 387

Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 19 2022 12:44 utc | 342
When responding to a post on MOA please favor your readers here with a heading on your posts with at least the above so we know what you are responding to.
thanks

Posted by: pogohere | Feb 19 2022 17:55 utc | 388

@c1ue | Feb 19 2022 17:38 utc | 384
It is politics from the usual suspects. The CAGW acronym (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming) has been abandoned because there is nothing catastrophic about it, it isn’t man made and there is no measurable ‘global warming’ (temperature is a local intensity, and can’t be measured on a global basis). So they just call it ‘Climate Change’ instead and pretend the climate should be constant. And if you don’t subscribe to their view you become a ‘climate denier’.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 18:01 utc | 389

Something occurred to me about Putin’s missile test today.
Will the West be activating radar and communication lines that
they don’t normally light up all at once, in order to monitor the tests
and stay alert in case the tests are not tests at all.
If they do, then Russia is watching and may gain useful intel.
Hey Pentagon, surely you thought of this too and are taking
counter measures.

Posted by: librul | Feb 19 2022 18:09 utc | 390

To those who think that it would simply be a matter of Russia issuing a press release to counter US propaganda (ie. Why doesn’t Russia just point out the Ukrainian buildup on the Donbass border) think back to the fake chemical weapons attack in Douma.
The US/White Helmets issued a propaganda blitz, complete with a pile of dead bodies with a baby tossed haphazardly on top, which they assured us was a pile of people who had died from a chlorine gas attack (with the mother of the baby tossing it on top right before she died?). They also staged a scene with a little boy at an ER being hosed off by “doctors”.
Russia brought the star of the show, the little boy who had starred in the video, to the Hague, where he testified that there was no actual gas attack.
What happened? Did the western media publicize the testimony? Did it go out worldwide that the Mighty Wurlitzer had lied? Of course not. The western media ignored it, so it did not happen.
It is supremely naive to think that the media is some sort of “news” dispenser that publishes all the news that is fit to print. It is a propaganda arm of the western ruling class.
Therefore, it won’t matter that it is completely absurd to think that Russia would attack ethnic Russians in Donbass in order to provide an excuse for an invasion that Russia has repeatedly said they would not do.
Absurdity is what they sell and they do it well.
The vast majority of people fall for their absurdities, as we can see.
And the forced injections, internal passports and digital ID system being pushed with the propaganda of “deadly pandemic” is a similar operation.
We have a disease with a 99% survival rate being hyped to the simple-minded as a reason to give up long-standing medical ethics and the Nuremberg Code, as well as free speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, etc.
We have people supporting the confiscation of money from dissidents, the taking of children, the killing of dogs, and the trampling of an elderly disabled Mohawk woman (called, of course, a “right wing domestic terrorist Trump supporter”). AND those same people out themselves as media slurpers by claiming that the protesters are being “coddled” and that the BLM/antifa riots of 2020 were much more harshly dealt with (a complete reversal of the truth).
That is the power of the media. I salute those who consistently reject the narratives presented when they are too absurd to be believed.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 19 2022 18:10 utc | 391

@Norwegian #378
That poster may show some individual thought in other matters – but in the specific matter I engaged with him/her, there was none.
Clearly that entire discussion was just an excuse for said poster to trot out their media derived views.
In that discussion, it was 100% obvious that there could be no interaction since the other side had put zero thought, research or reasoning into the subject.
Posted by: c1ue | Feb 19 2022 17:35 utc | 382

You two make quite the tag team don’t you! It actually would be kinda cute if it wasn’t for the fact that misleading people on both climate change science and on medical science will cause untold suffering for all of us.
If you really think you know better than the scientific experts, sign up to review some of their papers? See how far you get…

Posted by: retiredmecheng | Feb 19 2022 18:20 utc | 392

Sun Tzu | 348

12 million tons of Potash per year by train

Those go right past my house. I could camp out on the tracks for a Freedumb protest, for 3 or 4 weeks. What do you think?

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 19 2022 18:21 utc | 393

@ retiredmecheng #375,
The Canadian and US media have been spread division, fear and hate about the unvaccinated, however more than 80% of eligible Canadians have already been vaccinated (at least according to official sources) and getting above an 85% vaccination rate is extremely hard without draconian threats and punishments for the simple fact that lots of people DONT live near medical centers that provide the vaccine (Canada is a huge rural country, Ontario alone is bigger than all of Ukraine, my parents live in a rural area about a 90 min drive to the nearest hospital and a 60 min drive to the nearest vaccination center). I know many people who work 10-12 hour days, barely making ends-meat (with our “official” inflation of 5%, when it is actually around 15%), so the idea of taking a day off work to get the 1st shot is not an option (and that’s not mentioning that the US and Canada are now pushing the idea of annual booster shots).
Governments should be judged based on their actions, not their words – if the government really wanted a 100% vaccination rate (like they did with small pox, although even that was only around 60%), they would say damn the expense and arrange door to door vaccinations for rural areas or at the very least vaccination centers in every incorporated Hamlet (the smallest community size recognized by the government). The government hasn’t done anything even close to that (they have pop-up clinics serving rural areas but 1 popup clinic serving a county is a joke). The truth is that covid crisis is more about terrorizing the populace than public health discourse.
I’m something of an old fart, so I remember the Satanic Panic of the 80s and 90s, the alien sighting crazy of the 90s, the Y2K silliness, the 9/11 terrorists under every bed and now we have the Covid panic of 2020. It seems that every 10yrs Western society goes crazy, until the next craze sucks up all of the oxygen for sane discourse on real problems (that of course, are never solved), the Covid craze will pass in another 2-3yrs and all anyone will talk about will be the fill in the blank (my money’s on THE YELLOW PERIL REDUEX!!!! – NEW & IMPROVED: WITH SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR APPROVED RACISM)

Posted by: Kadath | Feb 19 2022 18:24 utc | 394

To answer the hospital question.
As someone pointed out, the CARES Act, which was passed at the beginning of this operation, incentivizes the hospitals to produce covid numbers.
The government pays for a PCR test for everyone that enters the hospital. If the hospital can point to a positive test, there are bonuses, including a 20% bonus on the ENTIRE bill. Putting someone on a ventilator gives them a $39,000 bonus. The only treatment allowed is Remsdevir, which got an EUA for the purpose, although the drug had never before been approved because of its toxicity.
My friend has been in the hospital three times since last summer. The first two times, she tested negative, but the third time she tested positive, so she became a “covid patient”. So they told her (the third time) that she had a hiatal hernia and they were going to put her on a ventilator to reduce it. This is NOT any kind of normal medical treatment.
She was messaging me and a group of other friends the entire time until they put her on the vent and then she was unable to communicate due to sedation.
This is medical malpractice and it is common now, because there is big bucks in it for the hospitals. Any doctor who objects is fired and loses their medical license.
So the answer to the “would you go into the hospital” question is “only if you are suicidal and want to be killed”.
That ignores the implication underlying the question, of course. Too many people have been convinced that there are “worthy” and “unworthy” humans, (as defined by their overlords), and the “unworthy” should be ostracized, banned from society, starved out and denied medical treatment.
All in the name of the “public good”, of course.
The irony should be obvious to all, but I know it isn’t obvious to those whose brains have been washed, starched and ironed into compliance.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 19 2022 18:24 utc | 395

Sushi | 319

nursing and hospital staff

I heard they were harassed by the antivaxers, as with anyone else wearing masks, and any property owner who chose to have health restrictions.

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 19 2022 18:27 utc | 396

Posted by: Kadath | Feb 19 2022 18:24 utc | 393
Thanks for your post. And yes, perhaps the health authorities should make it easier for everyone to get vaccinated.

Posted by: retiredmecheng | Feb 19 2022 18:28 utc | 397

@Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 19 2022 12:38 utc | 339
The FDA approved remdesivir about a week before the November election.
https://www.cms.gov/medicare/covid-19/new-covid-19-treatments-add-payment-nctap

On October 22, 2020, the FDA approved remdesivir (Veklury) for the treatment of COVID-19 for adults and certain pediatric patients requiring hospitalization

20% kickback on the entire hospital bill *to the hospital* if a hospital inpatient is given remdesivir.
——
The people(?) that write legislation are habitual obfuscators.
Read the first paragraph in the linked document.
You know that they aren’t going to use the phrase “kickback to the hospital”.
“Create incentives” is much friendlier language, but the habitual obfuscators
went instead with:
“mitigate disincentives”.
They are mitigating disincentives to the hospitals so that they use remdesivir.
Mitigate disincentives, that is certainly bureaucrat-speak,
is it also Orwellian?

Posted by: librul | Feb 19 2022 18:28 utc | 398

@Posted by: librul | Feb 19 2022 18:28 utc | 397
Just made note of this. This suggests that the new kickback regime to hospitals started the very day before the November 2020 election.

The NCTAP, designed to mitigate potential financial disincentives for hospitals to provide new COVID-19 treatments, is effective from November 2, 2020, until the end of the COVID-19 public health emergency (PHE).

Further research would be useful.

Posted by: librul | Feb 19 2022 18:35 utc | 399

@retiredmecheng | Feb 19 2022 18:20 utc | 391

If you really think you know better than the scientific experts, sign up to review some of their papers? See how far you get…

That is a political argument, thanks for proving my point. The gate-keepers know their place. In today’s technical world there is no need for “scientific experts” (appealing to authority is a logical fallacy) to decide what is allowable. Journals don’t have any monopoly on science. In the past you needed to go via journals to get published, but the best science is today self published and open. Of course there is a lot of rubbish, but that is also true among the “scientific experts” because they are biased.
Publish all hypotheses openly and let the review of the entire world decide what works and what doesn’t.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 19:00 utc | 400