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February 18, 2022
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The Lockdown Left has bemoaned that the Truckers Convoy was supposedly getting the kid gloves treatment from the cops.
Now that Trudeau’s crackdown has begun, they’re silent.
Posted by: DG | Feb 19 2022 0:09 utc | 201
Paul
I see UK are now moving their embassy to Lvov. Australia did a few days ago at about the same time or just after US made their move. I had read a number of others also in the five-eyes loop have moved theirs so a major falso flag coming their that will will be told is the Russian invasion, … just thinking while typing this, Putin will be out on strategic missile exercises in the coming days… so perhaps Russian intel knows a little more about what will occur that Biden now says is the Russian invasion of Kiev.
But first I think something a bit more major is supposed to occur at the Donbass front.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 0:11 utc | 202
jared @ 125 said;”The problem with the neocon master plan is
Their objective is subjegation of Russia and Russia is well aware of this.”
You can include any other nations the corporate empire considers a competitor in global “market share”…..
Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 19 2022 0:12 utc | 203
@S #171
Belarus Potash Corporation didn’t invoke Force Majeur due to lack of Lithuanian ports. It did it because of US sanctions. But these are only applied to US$ transactions. This is why India approached BPC with and offer to buy in rupees. Here is the Reuters link
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/exclusive-india-could-buy-potash-belarus-rupees-sanctions-hit-minsk-sources-2022-02-02/
When you look at it in this context. It is BPC halting shipments while invoking Force Majeur for not meeting contracts., as per the Bloomberg link provided. What good is the New Silk Road if Potash can’t be loaded on rail cars and shipped East?
Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 19 2022 0:17 utc | 204
Here’s the piece about the Biden crew wanting Zelensky to stay in Ukraine rather than leave for a meeting. This comes at a time when five-eyes and loyal vassals are all moving their Embassies to Lvov.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-administration-urged-zelensky-not-to-leave-ukraine-and-visit-munich/ar-AAU2THL
“Biden administration officials have privately urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky not to leave Ukraine and visit Munich on Saturday given concerns about a possible incursion from Russia, according to three US officials and one senior Ukrainian official.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 0:20 utc | 205
AL #105
Absolutely right. I live in Anyang China and we had an big outbreak early Jan. City and county went into total lockdown with 11 rounds of nucleic tests.
Defeated Delta and Omicron in 20 days in time to lift the movement restrictions on Eve of Chinese New Year.
I suspect the HK outbreak is also fueled by infected cockroaches to do another version of “burning HK”.
Yes, some are being investigated for illegal crossing into mainland from HK.
Posted by: Surferket | Feb 19 2022 0:26 utc | 206
Sun Tzu 203
I spent a day or so researching it when Lithuania cut off transit. Only a very small percentage of potash was sanctioned – mixes with a high percentage of potash and mixes with a low percentage of potash. Vast bulk of potash used by farmers fits in between the high and low percentages that were sanctions. Belarus exports were stopped by Lithuania , with little or no notice blocked transit, not because of sanctions.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 0:27 utc | 207
For all you anti-mandate folks. In the history of humanity, don’t you think there are CERTAIN instances where MANDATES are a necessary evil? A deadly pandemic such as Covid might just be one of those times. Or, should we just dissolve all the rules, and let everyone do as they wish?
Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 19 2022 0:30 utc | 208
Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 18 2022 20:38 utc | 123
Everybody has had a different experience with covid & vaccines.
Verifiable with my own eyes (real people I actually know & talk to), untainted by MSM or Alternate Media propaganda –
– friend of my son, 23 year old male,severe case of myocarditis, this poor lad has been told he will probably never work again by the cardiologist.
– son of a friend, 21 years old, rushed to Emergency dept. & diagnosed with myocarditis, 2 days in hospital & ‘recovered’.
– my brother-in-law, 57 year old, had the booster & returned to work & collapsed. Four days in hospital – undefined neurological disorder – ‘recovered’.
– work colleague, male 50’s, ongoing daily headaches after second jab,for last 7 months. Not incapacitating, but unpleasant and concerning.
– work colleague, male mid 50’s, off work for 3 weeks with a very unpleasant case of shingles.
– two casual acquaintances, both female mid 30’s, problems with their periods, irregular & increased blood loss.
– dozens of people who have had no adverse reactions or know anybody who has had an adverse reaction.
I am a healthy 60 year old male, taking no medication, having no co-morbidities or health issues, eat healthy home cooked food, slightly overweight @10kg.
In light of my experience, and so as not to become a potential burden on the health system, I have declined to be vaccinated.
You of course are free to follow your own path.
Posted by: ted001 | Feb 19 2022 0:31 utc | 209
Women and kids being evacuated from Donbass into Russia. That didn’t happen even in the worst of the fighting between MH17 and Minsk. Five-eyes moving their embassies to Lvov, and Putin will be present for the strategic weapons exercises which I take to mean in the military command center…
All this coming after the Russian ultimatum and the China Russia statement. Makes me wonder if this is now a do or die effort by the US/UK to take Russia down.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 0:36 utc | 210
@Piotr Berman #112:
The efficacy of vaccines in the case of Omicron variant seems disappointing, nothing like 90% or even 75%.
The efficacy of preventing infection is low, but the efficacy of preventing death is still high, albeit lower than that for the delta variant for younger age brackets.
Here’s data from my December 1, 2021 comment, corresponding to the delta variant:
U.S. COVID-19 deaths per 100,000 population for the 6 months of Apr 4 – Oct 2, 2021
Age Unvaxxed Fully Risk of death vaxxed for unvaxxed vs. fully vaxxed
18–29 7.74 0.10 77× 30–49 51.74 1.79 29× 50–64 226.28 9.39 24× 65–79 776.70 34.25 23× 80+ 1048.82 151.58 7×
And here’s new data, corresponding to the omicron variant (omicron became prevalent in the U.S. over the week of December 12–18):
U.S. COVID-19 deaths per 100,000 population for the 2 weeks of Dec 19, 2021 – Jan 1, 2022
Age Unvaxxed Fully Risk of death vaxxed for unvaxxed vs. fully vaxxed
18–29 0.51 0.07 7× 30–49 3.28 0.22 15× 50–64 17.00 1.17 15× 65–79 81.30 4.36 19× 80+ 136.28 17.91 8×
Source: CDC Covid Data Tracker.
Posted by: S | Feb 19 2022 0:45 utc | 211
Posted by: Useless meat beater | Feb 18 2022 15:38 utc | 13
How devishly clever but I whole heartedly agree. Were I a judge with weight, I would say Yea.
Really a good point.
Posted by: Jimmy Flies By | Feb 19 2022 0:54 utc | 212
WWIII is kicking off and y’all are still haggling about a bad cold?
But riddle me this covidians….how is it that the US literally lies about absolutely everything, creates fake narratives about everything, demonstrably acts against the health and well being of it’s own and the global human population every single day, but is somehow telling the truth about this super, super deadly cold virus? Just this one time they decided they’re really looking out for us, huh? Ok.
Mass psychosis is a real thing.
Posted by: Krungle | Feb 19 2022 1:02 utc | 213
We do satire, yes, but we are banned on this supposed open thread or anything else that CIA MOA does or says. As long as you kiss ass, you are fine. 2 Not weapons east.
Posted by: Berndt Braincell | Feb 19 2022 1:06 utc | 214
ted 001 @ 208: Thanks ted, as for me and mine, fully vaxed with absolutely no ill effects.
Have a good one:)
Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 19 2022 1:07 utc | 215
https://t.me/VigilantFox/2742
Short video of mounted police trampling a small person with a mobility device. If you scroll down there is an overhead still photo that may show the small person better.
I don’t doubt that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police are sought out by the same sorts of bullies who staff police departments everywhere. They are however trained and well trained. These cavalry are f*cking amateurs. Cavalry because this is military action. And that horse would not have attacked a human unless very firmly told to do so.
Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 19 2022 1:09 utc | 216
This site has long been overlooked by the bar here.
It figured very prominently during the early 2014 war in Donbass with latest up to date reporting on the situation at the front. As good as Cassad. Even Saker was far behind.
Start reading it now as they still have their sources in east Ukraine.
https://southfront.org/
Posted by: Surferket | Feb 19 2022 1:09 utc | 217
@ Peter AU1 #206
With all due respect to your research, it doesn’t agree with news from Lithuania or Belarus for it is the American sanctions that triggered the Lithuanian port & rail blockade decision. It is true that there may have been other bilateral political factors involved but primarily the root cause was US sanctions. Sanctions are an economic penalty, a parasitic cost for doing business in US$. But sanctions are not an absolute barrier to export product. There are other export routes that are more expensive than through Lithuania but now affordable since the threat of “halting shipments altogether “ have caused a significant rally in the commodity’s price.
Lithuania stopped railway transit of Belarusian potash from Feb. 1. It said Minsk, which is under U.S. and European sanctions, could not use Lithuania to export the crop nutrient, which is key foreign currency earner for Belarus.
“Due to the longer delivery distance through Russia, our producers have lost a little in margins, but this will be compensated by higher global prices,” Golovchenko said in a video published by the government. He did not name the Russian ports.
Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 19 2022 1:10 utc | 218
Trudeau has called the “Loyal Opposition” Nazi supporters.
Posted by: Sushi | Feb 18 2022 18:52 utc | 85
Out of context, it is hard to tell if he was praising them or not. Canada has no problem with Nazi epigones, other than resolving logistics of arm supplies. Perhaps the subtext is disappointment, “even though they are Nazi supporters who believe in Ordnung und Recht, they misbehave in an anarchic fashion”.
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 19 2022 1:14 utc | 219
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 0:11 utc | 201
“so perhaps Russian intel knows a little more about what will occur that Biden now says is the Russian invasion of Kiev.
But first I think something a bit more major is supposed to occur at the Donbass front.”
That’s my guess too, Russian intel are not stupid, they know the tricks and the spin doctoring of their enemies.
BTW my late father was in Darwin 80 years ago today. Dad was a country boy and a first class shot.
Posted by: Paul | Feb 19 2022 1:16 utc | 220
I posted a comment linking to South Front but it never showed up. Is that site banned in MOA?
Posted by: Surferket | Feb 19 2022 1:20 utc | 221
librul:
a twitter link
Instead of parsing URLs just use tinyurl dot com. When you get the shortened link you can add the “preview” (like above) so people here can first verify where the link is going.
Health passports, compulsory medical experimentation, cashless society and CBDC for all. My suggestion is to pray to your favored deity (whatever) to send massive solar flares to fry the information infrastructure that will be the prison of the future generations.
Posted by: IranianBorn | Feb 19 2022 1:28 utc | 222
Sun Tzu 216
My impression of that was that Lithuania was not under any sort of secondary sanctions for allowing transit. Lithuania was heavily into the attempted color revolution in Belarus and cutting transit was completely its own decision. US and EU did not impose sanctions on the bulk of Belarus potash due to the worlds shortage that would cause with associated increase in prices which would also hit US and EU farmers not to mention problems caused for any US and European imports from Belarus. I put it down to Lithuania’s hatred of all things Russian and even if US officials had a quiet word to Lithuania about it, it sure wouldn’t have taken any arm twisting to get them to agree. That’s my take on it and I had read a similar report to the one you linked as to Lithuania’s reasons.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 1:37 utc | 223
it is difficult to get a man to understand something when his paycheck depends on not understanding it. hence the difficulty with dealing with the war shills.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 19 2022 1:48 utc | 224
Canada is dealing with the protest in too authoritarian a manner. and yet not nearly as brutal as the way U.S. cops dealing with black people, and poor people in general, in the U.S. for example, as far as I know none have been shot in the back yet when arrested, had weapons planted on them, or been suffocated over a protracted period. wish everybody on here gave the same support to Black Lives Matter protest that they do to protesting truckers.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 19 2022 1:51 utc | 225
To make it clear, assuming that Putin gets off his behind and decides to intervene, a limited intervention to blunt the Ukranazi coup regime attack will be worse than useless. It will just allow Amerikastan to gather NATO round itself, keep the Ukranazi coup regime in power, and the sanctions (assuming Russia cares about them) will be applied anyway. The only two realistic choices are
1. Do nothing and leave the Donbass Republics to sink or swim, which will of course be a strategic and political disaster for Russia, or
2. Go all in, destroy the Ukranazi coup regime, and liberate the Russian speaking areas including Odessa.
Of course briefer if these is a palatable prospect, but that are the only options left after Putin’s failure to act in 2014 or permit the Donbass Republic armies to act in 2015.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 19 2022 1:53 utc | 226
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_strategy
Could someone say it plainly? Putin is following a Fabian strategy. This strategy is profoundly frustrating – as it was for Rome and the Continental Congress in the US. The key is to avoid major engagements. Given Russia’s limitations, it’s the only strategy possible.
Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 19 2022 2:00 utc | 227
i distrust these all or nothing strategies that some people think Russia should pursue. unless of course you’re like the cowboy in Dr. Strangelove, and just love nuclear bombs.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 19 2022 2:07 utc | 228
@ Peter AU1 #221
Without labouring the point too much, what typically happens is that commodity transport contracts are negotiated say FOB for a fixed price maybe adjusted for inflation. The Lithuanian bulk rail transport company had a fixed price with BPC and BPC Prepaid for the entire year as usual. When American sanctions come into play, the Lithuanian company runs risks of having to pay the US for this parasitic cost. USA Sanctions do apply to allies and foes (think Iran sanctions re JCPOA status). No one can blame Lithuania for not wanting to absorb this unexpected additional cost. But this does not preclude BPC from selling through other export routes and/or using other currencies as my hyperlinks just proved. “S” wrongly claimed that it was not Belarus that halted shipments but that Lithuania and Ukraine had blocked BPC from using their routes. BPC rightfully so, invoked Force Majeure which is not a breach of contract. It caused the commodity price rally and they can still export through other routes, other markets using other currencies. There is no good reason to halt all shipments since they can use other routes and other currencies. That is a fact.
Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 19 2022 2:08 utc | 229
@ Surferket | Feb 19 2022 1:20 utc | 219… not sure.. you could try again.. to my knowledge very few links are banned here, though some are.. cheers…
Posted by: james | Feb 19 2022 2:09 utc | 230
K @ 212 said'”Mass psychosis is a real thing.”
True,and 800k deaths are just fiction?
Go figure…
Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 19 2022 2:10 utc | 231
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 18 2022 22:57 utc | 176
Re the first link @120.I just tested it again and had no request for an email and no paywall. Not sure where you are located by that may play a role.
Try this link:
https://www.unz.com/news/
At the time of this posting it was the 3rd entry from the top and exhibited the title Science and Public Health Are Broken
I believe it is also on ZH but all ZH links appear to cause the post to “vanish.: I suspect this is the problem librl is having.
Best of luck. Cheers!
Posted by: Sushi | Feb 19 2022 2:11 utc | 232
Posted by: farm ecologist | Feb 18 2022 23:07 utc | 181
I think a better analysis is provided by, of all people, a sitting US Senator.
See:
https://youtu.be/7pO95nrvzVs
Posted by: Sushi | Feb 19 2022 2:16 utc | 234
Anyone know of a trusted group/website i could donate to support the people of the Donbass?
Posted by: migueljose | Feb 19 2022 2:20 utc | 235
I watched 2-3 videos in Russian, and it seems that right now, there is more rhetoric than blood in Donbas. There were two explosions of gas stations in Lugansk, and a car explosion in Donetsk (on a parking lot, owner is one of the commanders of Donetsk militia), and a lot of artillery shells not aimed at buildings. However, “forbidden types” (by the ceasefire agreement) are alleged to be used, so the republics, in coordination with Moscow, decided to treat the situation with “the abundance of caution”. Donetsk also claims to intercept a group of infiltrators, killing two and wounding 3. Nothing mentioned about prisoners — inconclusive on that.
In short, it is not a trigger for Moscow to act. Yet?
The head of the Ukrainian national security council had a press conference, does not see elevated chances of invasion, and does not see any need to follow Minsk agreements.
The situation suits both Moscow and Kiev. Moscow embarked on the strategy of increasing tensions that on the Western side lead to hysterics, and in some places like France or Thuringia, a degree of introspection. Kiev is pestered to follow Minsk agreements, and tensions mobilize the West to support Kiev regime, both with hardware and with cash, and the talk about the agreements is reduced to sotto voce.
Perhaps it is not the popcorn time yet, but my prediction is that USA/UK axis does not have it as well planned as Russia.
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 19 2022 2:21 utc | 236
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 19 2022 1:14 utc | 217
You can judge the context yourself. The video feed is from the Canadian Parliment.
https://youtu.be/GbGscmN8Oo4
Posted by: Sushi | Feb 19 2022 2:36 utc | 237
rex murphy article from today –
Trudeau’s wild misuse of state authority
Posted by: james | Feb 19 2022 2:37 utc | 238
Sun Tzu 227
I looked up the US sanctions and there does not seem to be any issue secondary sanctions.
https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/126/20210809_belarus_eo.pdf
At the top it states who and where those sanctions apply. Lithuania I think is part of the EU so Euro transactions would not be and issue.
Tis pdf is for the winding down of transactions https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/126/belarus_gl4.pdf
And this is a Dec 2 expansion of the earlier sanctions which prevents US citizens dealing with another two companies associated with BPC. But still nothing whatsoever about secondary sanctions. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0512
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 2:48 utc | 239
NATO allies, including White House officials, are concerned by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s decision to depart Kyiv for the Munich Security Conference this weekend, sources told Fox News Friday.
Allies of the 30-member alliance are reportedly worried that Russia could exploit the president’s absence as tension in Eastern Europe has reached a boiling point not seen in decades.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nato-allies-concerned-by-zelenskyy-move-to-leave-ukraine-threat-of-russian-almost-certain
Posted by: daffyDuct | Feb 19 2022 2:51 utc | 240
@ sushi.. good clip @ 235.. thanks.. trudeau doesn’t apologize for that serious slur on others…
Posted by: james | Feb 19 2022 2:56 utc | 241
Hey ventinLA. The science says the only difference between vaxed and unvaxed is severity. Provide a cogent reason why an individual should be forced to take this product? I’ll wear a mask for ya. I’ll stand as far away as u want me to. I’ll wear closed goggles and ear coverings for ya. Why won’t u accept I might not want to pierce my epidermis for ya, given what the science says. I’ll decide for myself thanks. If u can’t respect that then I humbly suggest you might not get respect back.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Feb 19 2022 2:58 utc | 242
daffyDuct 238
A week or two back I said to my sister that “the sanctions US want to now put on Ukraine will do far more damage than those they inflicted themselves with over MH17, so whatever happens this time will have to have far bigger than MH17.”
If the US makes it big enough, the EU will gladly gladly shoot themselves in both feet and in both knees for good measure.
The comedian should have stuck to piano playing with his dick.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 3:00 utc | 243
Russia’s concern with the Donbas has been the Russians in that region. Anyone with Russian claims has had the opportunity to acquire a Russian passport. If those with Russian passports are extracted, then Russia has no concern about what happens to Ukrainians in Ukraine.
Putin/Russia has never claimed the Donbas for territory. The concern has always been those identifying as Russians living there post Soviet collapse.
700,000 Russian passports have been issued post Maiden. That’s who Putin and the Duma are mostly concerned with.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 3:01 utc | 244
Paul 198
The public are being groomed but this time more of the public are on to it..
I wish. It’s not what I’m seeing. Maybe my friends foes and family are particularly stupid. I have long suspected it is so.
Of course, being the “odd” one out, they think the same of me.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 3:05 utc | 245
Posted by: Sushi | Feb 19 2022 2:36 utc | 235
Great insights by the senator, but it doesn’t answer my question, which is: why did the police allow protestors to antagonize the locals and shut down businesses for weeks on end in one of Canada’s largest cities? At the very least they could have issued tickets for bylaw and parking infractions instead of palling around with the protestors.
The point is, through dereliction of duty the Ottawa Police Service, either wittingly or unwittingly, created an opening for Trudeau to implement his heavy-handed, antidemocratic tactics.
Posted by: farm ecologist | Feb 19 2022 3:16 utc | 246
S | 210
The formatting of a table on this clunk site it beyond awesome.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 3:21 utc | 247
daffyDuct | 238
Allies of the 30-member alliance are reportedly worried that Russia could exploit the president’s absence as tension in Eastern Europe has reached a boiling point not seen in decades.
Has anyone suggested that the Nazis might seize power openly, instead of working through Zelensky or Porky?
Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 19 2022 3:25 utc | 248
Daffy Duck 238
NATO allies, including White House officials, are concerned by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s decision to depart Kyiv for the Munich Security Conference this weekend, sources told Fox News Friday.
Ok. So. 1/ were they intending to Epstein him in Kiev this weekend or 2/ cook up some plot at Munich without him.
His twitter for the past year ++ has been full of him gladhanding at conferences and forums globally.
Suddenly he should stay home alone? Miss the Munich love inn?
Why?
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 3:28 utc | 249
I posted this Feb 2 re potash and Lithuania
Lithuania: just stepped on a rake labeled “potash”
Lithuania terminates transport contract with Belarus potassium giant BelaruskaOn December 21, 2021, a special Lithuanian governmental commission vetting deals by strategic enterprises ruled that the 2018 contract between Belaruskali and LTG was not in line with the country’s national security concerns.
The conservative-liberal Lithuanian government then agreed on January 12 that the state-owned railway company must terminate its contract with Belarus’ potash giant Belaruskali, because it clashes with national security interests.
“As of February 1, it is no longer valid,” Transport Minister Marius Skuodis said after the cabinet meeting. Fertiliser shipments under the contract must stop by that date, because the government’s decision leaves no legal basis for them to continue, Skuodis added.
While heavily criticizing Lukashenko, many European countries have continued to cash in on trade with Belarus during 2021.
According to the Belarusian statistical bureau Belstat, the EU’s imports from Belarus in the first three quarters of 2021 increased by 96.1% in comparison to the same period in 2020. Bloomberg reported last year that the EU’s statistical agency Eurostat showed a 58% increase in EU imports from Belarus between January-August 2021 in comparison to the same period in 2020.
Despite being some of the EU’s harshest critics of Belarus, the three Baltic states’ trade with Belarus increased significantly over the course of 2021.
Landlocked Belarus has long used the ports in the Baltic states to export its products from the potash, petroleum, wood, and metal industries, which are among the Belarusian regime’s main foreign currency earning industries.
During 2021, Belarus benefited from higher global prices on its biggest export products. This price rise caused a major upswing from Belarusian exports in 2021, dubbed the Belarusian “export miracle”, and much of last year’s trade increase can be attributed to it.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 3:34 utc | 250
@ Peter AU1 # 237
I hear you but I still can’t comprehend a good reason for BPC to “halt shipments” other than to rally the market.
Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 19 2022 3:39 utc | 251
@pretzelattack | Feb 19 2022 2:07 utc | 226
“i distrust these all or nothing strategies that some people think Russia should pursue. unless of course you’re like the cowboy in Dr. Strangelove, and just love nuclear bombs.”
^^^This.
Off to relax for a bit watching me some Alexander Nevsky…
Posted by: Vintage Red | Feb 19 2022 3:51 utc | 252
I notice people trying to post stuff (mostly links), and finding that their post don’t ‘get through’. I have come to believe that this incredibly ancient blogging platform has some amazingly wacky kinks. At times I have had to use ‘tinyurl.com’ to get perfectly harmless material linked to.
I think the fascist Pervasive Shadow Dictatorship (PSD) simply wants to get Russia to attack the Ukronazis, simply to scare the Europeans, and halt the Nord Stream 2 gas to Europe. I suppose the Russians will simply hold off long enough to make this ploy perfectly obvious to everyone. That’s what I would probably do.
Posted by: blues | Feb 19 2022 4:08 utc | 253
lex talionis @ 188
Ukrainian Jerry Springer
Thanks for helping us find the next US sponsored Ukrainian president.
Posted by: circumspect | Feb 19 2022 4:09 utc | 254
Tom_Q_Collins | 174
……has anyone seen Ayatollah Mike DeAndrea in the past year or so? If he’s alive, I wonder whether he’s operating in the Ukraine ‘theater’ nowdays…
A: He was “taken out” in Afghanistan as revenge for Soleimani.
Link? Proof?
Rumours, innuendo and cloaked admissions at the time.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 4:11 utc | 255
S 210.
Fresh. Hot off the 2022 Munich Security Conference stage.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
Bill Gates: ”Sadly the virus itself – particularly the variant called Omicron – is a type of vaccine, creates both B cell and T cell immunity and it’s done a better job of getting out to the world population than we have with vaccines.”
As I have explained here previously. And, as expected, been completely ignored.
The omicron variant is placed very oddly in the sarscov2 family tree.
It is not a descendant of any of the variants that have split off from the first sarscov2.
It’s like your great great great great grandmother was a test tube baby that suddenly joined the family now.
I’ve seen the image of the many sarscov2 variants, and how omicron is only related to the original version.
Those who accept the lab-created “gain of function” origin of sarscov2 can understand where and how omicron “fits”.
Someone released a variant that is highly highly contagious, but not as “dangerous” as sarscov2 the original.
People have died with and from “the flu” since there were people and flu, so of course, people will die of omicron.
But as Gates admits, “sadly” omicron is providing healthy humans with natural immunity.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 4:13 utc | 256
Apologies.
Was not supposed to be all bold.
Love the bar.
Hate the “decor” [software]
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 4:15 utc | 257
Posted by me Feb 5
Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda says the government’s decision to allow Taiwan to open a representative office using the island’s name was a mistake.
Lithuania is preparing an aid package of $147 million to bail out businesses who have been hit by the government’s row with China.
A new poll finds just 13% of Lithuanians support the government’s position on Taiwan and China (SCMP)
Germany’s IT watchdog has completed a several month investigation of Xiaomi phones and found no evidence of a censorship function existing, despite Lithuania claiming such previously.
Germany-based Klasmann-Deilmann Group, a globally active manufacturer of substrates for professional horticulture, has announced it is closing its export factories for the Chinese market in Lithuania.
@ChollimaOrg
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 4:19 utc | 258
Sun Tzu
Not so much a halt as in BPC simply not selling but the volumes they ship in tonnage cannot be sent via another rout over night. Someone back up the thread a bit, perhaps you I can’t remeber put in that piece about Belarus building a port in Russia. Belarus can send some of its tonnage of potash but that large permanent increase in tonnage is lot for a railway and port system to simply absorb overnight.
According to this shipping site Belarus exports 12.5 million tonnes of potash per year. https://www.marinelink.com/news/lukashenko-expects-russia-build-a-port-494443
How accurate that is I am not sure, another site gives Belarus a production of 12 million tons a year and it would also use some for domestic agriculture.
For some ball park figures allow 12-12.5 million tons production minus say 2-25 million tons for domestic use leaves 10 million tons to exports. Divide that by 365 equals 27,397 tons per day every day of the year to carted to port and loaded on a ship.
What is a fairly big train that is not dedicated heavy duty mining rail 2000 tons? 4000 tons? Say a couple of locomotives and 4000 tons. That is close to eight trains a day. About a 1000 k round trip so one load per day per train. I haven’t looked into who owned the trains carting it through Lithuania, but if it was Lithuania then new dedicated trains will need to be found.
Apart from all that it is just matter of looking at the export tonnage to see that very little infrastructure anywhere could absorb that much of a daily increase over night. Any new mine or large industry, that sort of infrastructure is looked at when in the planning stage and transport and handling facilities are built or upgraded along with building the plant or setting up the mine.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 4:20 utc | 259
@122 oldhippie | Feb 18 2022 20:37 utc — and others
Many thanks for Vigilant Fox, a great source for the Canadian Freedom Movement (soon to become a movement in reality, I suspect). That source is on multiple platforms, including Twitter and Rumble. This search should show both those platforms in the first few listings:
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffcm&q=Vigilant+Fox&ia=web
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@251 blues | Feb 19 2022 4:08 utc — and others
This blog is on the Typepad platform and I think that platform has its own filters that send certain links (frequently changing) to a moderation queue, to be inspected by b when he gets up – remember that many people post in the USA evening, while the German b is asleep, and then we sleep while he sorts through the moderation queue in his morning and removes truly terrible trash, and sometimes clears good comments that were caught up in that queue.
We live and die by the algorithm.
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@140 james | Feb 18 2022 21:20 utc – “i am a slow learner”
In truth, it was difficult to draw any sense of companionship from your position on this matter – you thought it was a topic, we thought it was a true existential crisis.
But I’ve watched your position change over recent months, and I find this very heartening. Don’t take this wrong, but if you can change from the sheer overpowering of reality, then so can millions of others – no snark intended.
You’re a dude, man.
Posted by: Grieved | Feb 19 2022 4:26 utc | 260
Ayatollah Mike recently quietly “retired” according to news sources. The official story is his unit was consolidated with another and he was no longer needed.
Posted by: Haassaan | Feb 19 2022 4:32 utc | 261
@ grieved.. it was because i saw how truly divisive this topic was and is that i didn’t want to read about it 24/7…. i spoke from my own self interest which was to not see the divisiveness and polarization increase… but increase it has regardless…. thanks for the kind words… there are still many parts to this moving circus i am unsure about, but the latest episode from the canuck gov’t towards the truckers is indeed a defining moment and turning point for me in more then 1 way… the fact is i have many close friends, including my own brother who has been much more hard core on this then any of the folks here at moa.. you see – we live lives off moa as well.. he has not taken any vaccine and i won’t go into everything, but i love my brother dearly… so we all have to find ways to live with each other, even if we don’t see eye to eye, or agree on all sorts of things.. anyway – i think you are saying something positive, or i am going to take it that way… i wish you’d post more often.. thanks – james
Posted by: james | Feb 19 2022 4:32 utc | 262
Another angle on the overall fertilizer theme is that overall, India and Brazil are the two largest importers of fertilizer in the world. They are both staying well out of the anti Russia crap so I would guess that they and a few others holding a similar position will be the ones that will get a share of whatever is exported from Russia. Both Belarus potash and Russian nitrogen fertilizer.
I can see a much large food price increase in the US west than what will occur in those countries.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 4:35 utc | 263
Foreign Policy CAN. @CanadaFP. Canada government organization. Feb 18. [2022].
Canada condemns #Cuba’s harsh sentencing following the July 2021 protests.
Canada strongly advocates for freedom of expression and the right to peaceful assembly free from intimidation.
We stand with the people of Cuba in their aspiration for #democracy.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 4:37 utc | 264
“Hey ventinLA. The science says the only difference between vaxed and unvaxed is severity. Provide a cogent reason why an individual should be forced to take this product? ”
Asked tannhouser @ 240.
The difference in severity makes a HUGE difference. It’s the difference between being hospitalized
and not. TAKING UP BED SPACE means death for someone else, say with a heart attack, and guess what?
No bed space, so, leave’em in the hallway. This scenario has occurred because some believe the BS about vaccines. Severity, my god man, that’s the whole f’ing ball game…
Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 19 2022 4:50 utc | 265
Below is the opening quote from a ZH posting about the Freedom Convoy
”
The communications director for the Ontario ministry responsible for enforcing the law was fired this week after her $100 donation to the Freedom Conovoy was revealed in the hack of donors to a GiveSendGo campaign, according to CTV News.
”
This is what, IMO, is going to put the public against the Justin Trudeau government and bring it down
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 19 2022 4:50 utc | 266
Map of gas pipelines transiting Ukraine.
https://s3-eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/hromadske-en/pictures/files/000/004/556/original/f5d1edaa7f212e9a8529bbeee90ead6c.jpg?1575116061
That second explosion in Donbass apparently was a gas line. The line to Turkey looks to be the only one that transits Donbass. Though as yet nothing about that line being the one hit.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 4:51 utc | 267
And as a general comment, may I say that Russia is at least 3 steps ahead of everyone at all times in this whole Ukraine affair.
She is juggling the future relationship with (and Eurasian position of) Europe, as its members struggle to cleave to – or away from – NATO and the US dominance. Russia doesn’t want to lose that game, and much in the Ukraine play is subservient to that outcome, I suggest.
Tactically, Russia can evacuate as much of the vulnerable population from Donbass as it wishes – into the Motherland, and free of danger – and leave the fighters behind, unimpeded by families and with a clear field to destroy the Ukrops. Hitler could tell us what happens to your forces when Russia tactically withdraws from your advance. Kettle time is coming, perhaps.
Strategically, she is truly concerned, I think, about the 20 million Russians stranded outside of Russia as the USSR borders retracted overnight. Dmitry Orlov’s scenario over at the Saker has great merit, I think – it may not play all the way he suggests, or it may, and we can afford to see it play out over several years, and in increments. No doubt the planners in the Kremlin reject no possibility in their contingencies.
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So we already see the trace beginnings of the play where the deserving wards of holy Rus are brought to safety, and their birth-home in the border lands is kept inviolable by the Minsk agreements – which will continue to bleed the western resolve and melt its position, and still remain indestructible, waiting with implacable patience until one day a leader in Kiev will say: Okay; we’ll sign.
And no force conceivable in this world can break that lock that Russia so practically (and superbly) put on the situation those years ago.
And then the Novorossians will have their land and their government, and Russia will have a friend on her borders, and the Russian diaspora will have seen the clear story that they too can come home to Russia whenever they wish, and be embraced.
Win-win-win-win. This is how the Russians play their games. This is what we’re watching.
Posted by: Grieved | Feb 19 2022 4:51 utc | 268
Posted by: S | Feb 18 2022 19:12 utc | 89
You have effectively stated my personal opinion on Covid19, albeit in a more succinct manner.
Thank you for your comment.
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Feb 19 2022 5:00 utc | 269
@ Peter AU1 #257
Some port storage & ship loading idle capacity became available in Russia after the announced pause in Ammonium Nitrate exports. At least for the next 2 months according to the press release. The other valid question pertains the new Silk Road and the cargo trains going Westbound. What are these trains hauling back Eastbound?
Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 19 2022 5:01 utc | 270
What the heck!
The Russian military confirmed on Friday that it will move up nuclear weapons exercises which had been previously scheduled to take place later the year, as a warning to the West as the Ukraine crisis grows hotter. Typically the drills take place in the fall, but will now be part of the current climate of ‘muscle flexing’ as the region remains on the brink.
The massive drills of Russia’s strategic nuclear forces will take place Saturday,
Excuse me, but this is nuts!
Posted by: librul | Feb 19 2022 5:03 utc | 271
@ Grieved | Feb 19 2022 4:26 utc | 258
As I understand you here, your previous declarations to be a dharma practitioner remains rooted in samsaric misconceptions. May you and all beings suffering in samsara soon realize non duality.
Posted by: suzan | Feb 19 2022 5:08 utc | 272
Melaleuca #248
I posted this Feb 2 re potash and Lithuania
Lithuania: just stepped on a rake labeled “potash”
Lithuania terminates transport contract with Belarus potassium giant Belaruska
On December 21, 2021, a special Lithuanian governmental commission vetting deals by strategic enterprises ruled that the 2018 contract between Belaruskali and LTG was not in line with the country’s national security concerns.
The conservative-liberal Lithuanian government then agreed on January 12 that the state-owned railway company must terminate its contract with Belarus’ potash giant Belaruskali, because it clashes with national security interests.
Thank you and I read that post too.
That is what I call a sanction: to break a long standing contract and blockade the transit of freight as an act of spite.
It was nothing less than an attack on the Belarus economy by a recognised belligerent state who finally found the gall to step on a rake. The exceptional intelligence of that move leaves me ROFL :))
No wonder they were called ‘the captive nations’ – the orcs captured their brains.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 5:09 utc | 273
Sun Tzu #268
The other valid question pertains the new Silk Road and the cargo trains going Westbound. What are these trains hauling back Eastbound?
From what I have read they haul consumer goods and manufactured components from European industry. Also agricultural product and machinery. Two weeks to destination by train vs six weeks (?) by ship. Don’t quote me on those exact numbers but the difference is substantial, the $$ savings on shipping are attractive, the avoidance of the Suez is attractive, and so on.
The volume both ways is escalating rapidly.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 5:18 utc | 274
Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 19 2022 4:50 utc | 263
Now we are starting to go down a very slippery slope.
At what point should people be responsible for their own health?
As a non drinker of alcohol, non smoker or recreational drug user, why should I be denied a bed and an alcoholic/morbidly obese/drug addict/drunk driver/extreme sports risk taker/ ad infinitum gets a free ride?
Who makes the decisions about what category of person are worthy of saving?
Should I as taxpayer of 40+ years, paid far more into Medicare than taken out, be denied a bed? Would you give priority to a fully vaccinated heroin addict, with multiple convictions for theft,never paid a cent in tax,who overdoses on the street?
Maybe we need a social credit system so we can set the value of every individual?
Posted by: ted001 | Feb 19 2022 5:25 utc | 275
@269 librul | Feb 19 2022 5:03 utc
It makes total sense. We have known that Russia for some years now has been preparing for real war. They are slow to saddle, and quick to ride. This remains part of the saddling.
The nuclear war scenario and the launch of ballistic missiles can only be practiced with the President in the game – because it can only be enacted in reality with the President in the act.
Putin himself must enroll in this practice session. He himself must train the muscle memory to know what to do with only seconds or minutes to spare in which to think.
Russia is not bluffing. Russia has a scale chart with a curve that goes up and up, with actions at each data point. It may start small, and local, but it goes all the way to the heavens themselves.
Some years ago, when we saw Russian commentary revealing to us that the nation was preparing for real war, all the little steps along the way to the end of humanity were plotted on this chart, and made ready, and continually practiced for.
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The west is chickenshit. We know this. It lives in mostly fantasy, because it has never been seriously discomfited. It doesn’t know that escalation has a logical end. Russia does know this, and has been trying quite frantically to awaken the west to this reality. It’s not exclusively a Russian reality, it’s a reality that should be understood by every player of the game.
I believe that, if the west allows and promotes the escalation to surge forward unchecked through all of its (very many) stages, then the situation could be taken to the complete destruction of the west (and probably the world).
This could happen without the west’s even understanding that it drove the course to this end. But Russia knows it as a real thing, and has made significant provisions for the survival of some of its population. The west, of course, has made no such provision. Maybe there’s life after nuclear war, maybe there’s not. It’s been gamed, but never proved.
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When you say that “this is nuts,” you’re invoking MAD, in all its reality. MAD was supposed to stop any player from going forward to the end point, although the Americans were always possessed of insane people who thought they were immortal.
It’s a test of human history, that personally I believe will outlast this madness. If annihilation comes, then that’s the end of dreams of a future that won’t come. To me, it makes sense to keep the dream, and if we continue to awake each morning, maybe we can work to that dream.
But nothing can stop the war, if the west wants to be so suicidal. Russia will not flinch, nor hesitate, I believe, from proving the theory of MAD in a real enactment.
Posted by: Grieved | Feb 19 2022 5:29 utc | 276
librul #269
re nuclear weapons exercises – Excuse me, but this is nuts!
Russia has been expressing that view to the west since the fall of the USSR. It is nuts that the peace dividend was squandered by mendacious aggression from the west.
It is nuts that the west enabled their state apparatus to steal their peace dividend wealth.
It is nuts that the NATO bases followed right on the heals of the colour revolutions that peeled off state after state to the west of Moscow.
It is nuts that Chemical warfare laboratories run by the USA are scattered throughout our planet.
It is nuts that the middle east/ Libya has been turned into graveyard by the west.
It is nuts that the quibbling, hatred and evidence free accusations like ‘russiagate’ were unrelenting, dishonest and downright ugly.
It is nuts that Eurasian citizens were kidnapped by the USA on risible pretexts.
It is nuts that the UK pulled its crappy little novichok insulting pantomime.
It is nuts that MH17 was twisted, distorted, mangled in a ‘court of law’.
Yes it is nuts: Attention westerners, Can you hear the Russian voice now? Can you silence your brains long enough to listen to sane pleading for an honest dialogue? Or are threats all that is left?
Yes it is nuts, western nuts.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 5:33 utc | 277
Australian of the Year 2021-2022, Grace Tame, has been a headline and a headline act for her full tenure.
As she relinquished the role in January, she committed the heinous crime of failing to smile at our PM. [who had demonstrated inexcusable discourtesy to her and the role she held].
Legacy [male] media have been running hit jobs on her from Day 1. Her base is twitter and blogosphere.
The latest MSM “gotcha” was to run a pic of her when a teenager holding a bong.
Today she “answered”.
Worth a read:
https://twitter.com/TamePunk/status/1494877152491487239
AN OPEN LETTER
To every media outlet who sought to discredit me by publishing THAT photo,
Although my humour and strength remain intact, I’d be lying if I said it didn’t let me down.
Not just as an individual, but more so as an advocate of the survivor community…
At every point — on the national stage, I might add — I’ve been completely transparent about all the demons I’ve battled in the aftermath of child sexual abuse; drug addiction, self-harm, anorexia and PTSD, among others.
You just clearly haven’t been listening.
Whilst we must acknowledge the harm that drugs can cause, if we want to have an OPEN and HONEST discussion about child sexual abuse in this country, we must also have an open and honest discussion about trauma and what that can look like.
…
There are survivors out there who are terrified of seeking help because they’re afraid they’ll be blamed for what has happened to them. They are afraid they’ll be chastised for their coping strategies instead of being offered support and treated for the cause of their suffering.
And what do you think happens when they see the mainstream media deliberately brutalise survivor-advocates like me for actions I took when I was 19 and still trying to process something I didn’t understand?
I’ll tell you. Their fear is magnified.
There’s more.
No one will be taming Grace anytime soon.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 5:38 utc | 278
FAT PEOPLE TAKE UP EVEN MORE SPACE THAN THE UNvaxed
SHOULD WE EVEN TOLERATE THESE PEOPLE WITH THEIR UNACCEPTABLE DIETS lack of discipline and their fat diabetic children?
they are sucking up healthcare money and space that should go toward the deserving
ya ok ventinla
James I feel for you… my entire family is split down the middle. We work around it by complete avoidance and safe words that are funny often serve to lighten the mood.
I have lost my patience for fools cheerleading for the death of freedom.
Posted by: ld | Feb 19 2022 5:38 utc | 279
I keep thinking that the situation in the ME is going to change dramatically and move the focus off Ukraine but that hasn’t happened yet and now the various Ukraine escalation attempts make me even more so want to see a challenge to the focus on Ukraine…..argh
The frenzy increase in the various circus rings of our world are quite something to watch from a “safe” viewpoint but I think we will all become victims soon enough of the outcome to this civilization war….
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 19 2022 5:39 utc | 280
Posted by: ted001 | Feb 19 2022 5:25 utc | 273
Slippery slope? Perhaps.
But as I said before, if the hospitals are chockerblock full, and someone who has chosen not to be vaccinated becomes seriously ill will covid, he/she should do the honourable thing, and elect to self-treat at home. It’s called having the courage of your convictions. After all he/she wouldn’t want to have that ventilator tube stuffed down their throat would they?
And that way, those that need treatment for other maladies get the health care that they want and deserve.
Posted by: retiredmecheng | Feb 19 2022 5:43 utc | 281
Posted by: Grieved | Feb 19 2022 5:29 utc | 274
It lives in mostly fantasy, because it has never been seriously discomfited. It doesn’t know that escalation has a logical end.
I’m afraid you are right in this observation. For the last thirty odd years, starting with the Clinton administration, the ruling class has indeed lived in the wishy-washy la la land. They always assume the other party would ultimately back down.
The world has changed so much so that the logical end of their incessant escalation is not gonna be to their liking.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Feb 19 2022 5:51 utc | 282
Librul 269
…\ The Russian military confirmed on Friday that it will move up nuclear weapons exercises …
Watching –
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/
https://www.flightradar24.com/
With the clever tricks performed by the B52s now at UK Fairford, with their bear poke flights directly to Kaliningrad, with a sharp, last moment “chicken” swerve; the probing with drones all along the Belarus Ukraine Crimea Sochi coasts; the nonsense goes on … has been for years, ….but the last few months, and escalating over the last few weeks, especially late European time.. it’s literally insane.
Maybe the Russians want to give the HATO countries a bit of the same adrenaline rush they seem to think they are causing the Russians.
My fear is that WW3.5 will start with a stupid stupid stunt like one of the B52 “chicken” strikes, that goes horribly wrong.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 5:57 utc | 283
@vetinLA | Feb 19 2022 0:30 utc | 207
For all you anti-mandate folks. In the history of humanity, don’t you think there are CERTAIN instances where MANDATES are a necessary evil? A deadly pandemic such as Covid might just be one of those times.
If the threat is so obviously deadly, it will be obvious to anyone in their local surroundings and if the provided remedy for the non-problem is equally obviously effective, then there is no need for brutal coercion. But what you have is brutal coercion, because this has nothing to do with any health issue.
Sidenote:
I was at the center of it when this shit started in my country, a large company (government majority ownership) that I work for closed down because of the “danger” coming from a colleague of mine that supposedly was seriously affected and threatened to infect others. Before that happened I had been working in the same room with that very person every day for a week, and it was all total bullshit and made up. He is still with us, he told me later he suffers from chronic asthma. It was a local false flag operation used to force employees into lock down and the terminology used by local managers was immediately recognizable for someone who had followed this and similar events. When a local manager immediately starts talking about the “new normal” like they did already in March 2020 you know they are reading from a script. I also have written documentation indicating pre-planning prior to March 11 2020 in my company.
But the health threat is hardly noticeable outside the TV or web pages. I know precisely zero people who have been affected by anything more serious than the common cold like we have every year, the “solution” isn’t effective and by all traditional measures a dangerous and risky drug with unknown effects. AND it makes the pharmaceutical companies mega rich if they weren’t already that in the first place.
And these “mandates” are being used to take away fundamental human rights. That is what this is all about, and it is being played out in Canada right now, and if you don’t wake up now and stop this madness it is coming to you wherever you are in the world.
Or, should we just dissolve all the rules, and let everyone do as they wish?
That is exactly what is happening in Canada if you substitute “everyone” for the Trudeau regime.
They abandon all laws and declare that individuals do not have any rights over their own bodies and if you disagree with that they take away your right to work for a living and if you still disagree they confiscate your money in your private bank account. Oh, since they have used the “pandemic” to eliminate cash as they have here, there is no way to extract your money in advance, because there are virtually no ATMs to be found and no traditional bank offices, it is all electronic and it can go “poof” anytime over night.
This is what “you will own nothing and you will be happy” looks like. It is not a catch phrase, it is a statement of literal fact by crazy psychopaths that have all intentions to follow up their words in practical action.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 6:04 utc | 284
@Eighthman | Feb 18 2022 20:06 utc | 107
>>I still don’t understand the end game.
To build a new Iron Curtain through Europe, but now with American barbed wire and minefields, and at a location infinitely more favorable to the Dark Throne than the old one was. The de-industrialized Europe stuck behind it will then be a captive market for American energy and manufactured goods. In short, this is only what Europe eagerly joined Uncle Sam in when it was being inflicted on the darkies, so serves them right.
>>How do they think they can force his hand?
No need. In contrast to last April, the psy-op preparation has been meticulous. Anything going boom between Vienna and Moscow will be “muh Putin”–and lots of things are going boom as we speak. The media are in lockstep, so the Brussels vermin has to pretend to be as well. Either this, or Putin crawls under the bed while UAF liberate LDNR, as they see it. Either way, champagne glasses will be filled.
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@Perimetr | Feb 18 2022 21:51 utc | 151
>>I wish Russia had made more of an issue of the UAF troop
>>buildup on the Donbass border.
Exactly. In going out of your way to deny “Russian invasion” plans, you’re still talking about your enemies’ favorite topic. Then over the past three days, Moscow played up their withdrawals, hoping that’d get Jake Sullivan off their back.
I’ve no idea of course what happens next, but events up to now already expose the failure of Russian deterrence. And the frustrating thing is that Moscow seemed to have it figured out last April; per Lavrov: “An assault on Donbass will be the end of the Ukrainian state.” That clarified a few things back then. But this time, Team America fronted the offensive with a 3-month media campaign which again seems to have rattled the Russki’s.
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 19 2022 6:14 utc | 285
From 0.09 and thru this footage I see the Australian flag, the Eureka flag and the Australian red ensign flag.
So does that qualify as “false” flags in the Canadian public “disobedience” currently underway. ?
Proving that anyone can fly any sort of flag at these events.
The “organisers” have no control. Seeing nazi, black sun or trump insignia is no more an indictment of the movement than some Aussie joining in the “fun”.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1494805011070652422?cxt=HHwWjMC41ZvPzr4pAAAA
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 6:22 utc | 286
@Krungle | Feb 19 2022 1:02 utc | 212
But riddle me this covidians….how is it that the US literally lies about absolutely everything, creates fake narratives about everything, demonstrably acts against the health and well being of it’s own and the global human population every single day, but is somehow telling the truth about this super, super deadly cold virus? Just this one time they decided they’re really looking out for us, huh? Ok.
Mass psychosis is a real thing.
Exactly right, very well stated. This really questions the rationality of supposedly analytical minded people. By intense fear propaganda you can make people believe anything, including the danger of a non-existing Russian invasion of Ukraine or the danger of a non-deadly deadly virus.
This happens when you abandon the fundamental principle of verifying claims against reality. That is what is causing the demise of the western world now.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 6:23 utc | 287
@92
I have no doubt the Ukrainian Government did not order the shelling of Donbass. I am equally sure it was the USA that is the indirect instigator of this violence. They are so desperate to initiate a war to justify sanctioning Russia and stopping Nordstream II they would murder their own grandmothers. Their impending financial collapse is another reason they need a war. To cover their misdemeanours. As Gerald Celente says ” When all else fails they take you to war.”
Posted by: Ike | Feb 19 2022 6:31 utc | 288
Grieved–
A short note I think you’ll agree with. The point of inflection is about to arrive.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 19 2022 1:53 utc | 224
Cute. Do you realise that you are just parroting the MSM narrative. Revolutionary. Anti-imperialist. Yeah, right. Every apply for a job at The Guardian?
Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Feb 19 2022 6:43 utc | 290
Ma Laoshi #283
I’ve no idea of course what happens next, but events up to now already expose the failure of Russian deterrence. And the frustrating thing is that Moscow seemed to have it figured out last April; per Lavrov: “An assault on Donbass will be the end of the Ukrainian state.” That clarified a few things back then. But this time, Team America fronted the offensive with a 3-month media campaign which again seems to have rattled the Russki’s.
Perhaps the Russians believe that deterrence is a progressive maneuver that is best played over a decade or two, especially when dealing with a powerful adversary. Peel off the allies of that adversary. Hope not to be collapse in the middle of the exercise (vale USSR). The stakes are quite high and the EU pawn (knight?) is being played on the board. Russia has a long term future of self determination that it aspires to. It will be a better future if it can include the EU in some partnership but it can do without the EU by establishing a fortified western wall.
If it can play the UKUSA into a corner of scorn then the game will shift. The EU has had its taste of the UK perfidious albion. The EU may even be able to seize some independent space to maneuver.
But the fortified western wall is under construction and part arrived IMO. It will now be exhibited for all to measure. Russia does brinkmanship when necessary as we can see.
The EU has no desire to be the UKUSA toast and every desire to have an enlarged and sustainable economy based on universal trade rather than limited trade. Self determination rather than UKUSA serfdom. The decision to achieve that universality is with the EU right now. If it cowers before this UKUSA mendacity then it will be severely self limiting.
But whatever the EU does, it will not end the Eurasian pushback IMO and the process of assisting/salvaging wrecked nations from the western grip will be with us for decades. It will be the reformed great game of freedom from the western imperialism or grinding poverty and internecine warfare and that is why China is so engaged in the process, as it experienced first hand how the plunder smashes their culture.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2022 6:44 utc | 291
For two years I have been hearing about the incentives paid to hospitals to classify a patient as a Covid case, but I had not seen any collateral for this in the sources I studied.
So, many thanks to the commenter up-thread who posted this article from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons:
Hospitals’ Incentive Payments for COVID-19
The AAPS comprises real doctors, but has always been independent of Big Pharma inducements. It was one of the very few organizations to publish the truth of early treatment that is currently banned at MoA.
This article is actually a re-post from two doctors published on a non-profit website, and the full title is partisan (dumping on Biden), but doesn’t need to be, since much of this monetary inducement for medical providers to inflate Covid cases comes from the bipartisan CARES Act:
The CARES Act provides incentives for hospitals to use treatments dictated solely by the federal government under the auspices of the NIH. These “bounties” must be paid back if not “earned” by making the COVID-19 diagnosis and following the COVID-19 protocol.
…
Because of obfuscation with medical coding and legal jargon, we cannot be certain of the actual amount each hospital receives per COVID-19 patient. But Attorney Thomas Renz and CMS whistleblowers have calculated a total payment of at least $100,000 per patient.
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I have seen from other sources (don’t have the links to hand at present) that Remdesivir causes side-effects identical to those of the COVID disease. This toxic and widely banned drug is mandated by CDC directives as the first line of treatment for a Covid diagnosis derived from a PCR test, and kills patients. But also presents symptoms that we have heard are those of Covid.
So there’s a thing to think about, in this current stage of pondering what has happened to us in the last two years.
There is a very tangible monetary incentive for corporate hospital business to label any patient as covid – from a PCR test called unfit for purpose by its Nobel inventor, and known for its false positives – and a first-treatment drug (expensive, by the way) that causes the symptoms we have heard are those of covid.
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We are in a stage of the pandemic where the narrative has been crumbling, to reveal only the emperor without clothes, but also with only a fascist jackboot remaining. We are in this jackboot stage now.
And we now have the space to conduct forensics on the last two years, and begin to understand what just happened to us.
As with many theories of conspiracy, a few people advanced the case, but the many could not sign on until later, when the case showed itself as real, and the conspiracy was revealed as a reality.
The medical establishment (now very largely corporate and consolidated in the USA at least) was paid big money to label patients and symptoms as Covid. And the very authorized treatments caused symptoms called Covid – while true preventives and early treatments were demonized and “outlawed” de facto.
This is an assembly of facts that I haven’t even put into a theory. In truth, I’m still revolving the potential theories around in my mind. I leave you with the tea leaves to read.
Posted by: Grieved | Feb 19 2022 6:45 utc | 292
@blues | Feb 19 2022 4:08 utc | 251
I notice people trying to post stuff (mostly links), and finding that their post don’t ‘get through’. I have come to believe that this incredibly ancient blogging platform has some amazingly wacky kinks. At times I have had to use ‘tinyurl.com’ to get perfectly harmless material linked to.
I don’t understand why people are having these issues. At times I disagree with what is posted here, but I can’t remember having had issues posting links. In my experience all you need is basic understanding of HTML links. It isn’t difficult, especially since it is being spelled out next to the edit box. On a related note, I see some are in awe over people being able to make a table, but that just tells me that there is a lack of basic technical understanding (learn about HTML tables).
I think the fascist Pervasive Shadow Dictatorship (PSD) simply wants to get Russia to attack the Ukronazis, simply to scare the Europeans, and halt the Nord Stream 2 gas to Europe. I suppose the Russians will simply hold off long enough to make this ploy perfectly obvious to everyone. That’s what I would probably do.
I agree, I think this is exactly what is going on.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 6:51 utc | 293
@287 karlof1 | Feb 19 2022 6:42 utc
Yes. The bounty of the given Earth, plus the benefit of the human individual. Talk about Win-Win 🙂
What happens when the Demonstration Effect extends beyond comparing countries and compares the inherent richness of individuals from those countries?
We will surely discuss over time.
And now I really am gone – good night.
Posted by: Grieved | Feb 19 2022 6:58 utc | 294
@Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 4:51 utc | 265
Thanks for that very useful map. I was not aware the pipeline down to Krasnodar and Turkey crossed into Donbass, but apparently it does. The pipeline to Turkey on that map is “Blue Stream”. Not showing on that map is the newer Turk Stream.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 7:06 utc | 295
Posted by: librul | Feb 19 2022 5:03 utc | 269
A shorter version of the answers you already got:
Most exercises aren’t really exercises (there’s no way to train for full scale war), they are showings of capability. Doing that now, especially to remind the European public (I don’t think the USians are receptive unfortunately) what their leaders are risking seems like a good idea.
Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Feb 19 2022 7:09 utc | 296
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 3:05 utc | 243
You are a particularly hardy variety of an Australian native tree, do not bend with the wind.
I planted two Illawarra Flame Trees recently.
I had a visit from my near neighbour today. It seems the locals are on to the international scams around here. I think awareness is catching on.
Intelligence can be measured. Awareness can’t be measured.
Posted by: Paul | Feb 19 2022 7:10 utc | 297
@ted001 | Feb 19 2022 5:25 utc | 273
Thank you. You just made me think there might still be hope in this world.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2022 7:13 utc | 298
I wonder what the russian guy in the street thinks about the matter of possibly going to war in Ukraine?
Posted by: jared | Feb 19 2022 7:22 utc | 299
Andy Scollick. @Andy_Scollick It’s time to accept that we, the civilised West, have lost the fight to keep Russia from going to war openly against Ukraine. It’s already begun. No more words of “grave concern”. It’s time to hit Russia everywhere it hurts. Not just in the pocket. #MSC2022
Dr Andy Scollick is a consultant in the field of European defence and security. He specialises in systems thinking and the development of resilience-based approaches.
His focus is on the interconnections between climate change and defence, emerging and disruptive technologies, strategic foresight and the Irish Defence Forces.
Between 2014 and 2019, Andy worked as a defence policy analyst and advisor to government, military and civil society actors in Ukraine and other European countries.
For 22 years prior to that, he was an advocate, policy analyst and consultant in the field of European marine sustainability and maritime policy, working for national, EU and international NGOs.
Andy holds a PhD in sustainability science, complex adaptive systems theory and maritime governance from University College Cork where he also worked as an EU project researcher and lecturer.
^^all those smarts. And his best idea is to “hit Russia everywhere it hurts”.
Some Tweeting from Munich Security Conference:
https://twitter.com/air_intel/status/1494831688723144708?cxt=HHwWiIC51Yfg2r4pAAAA
(This shows one of the more benign “loops” performed by the US drones. Images of how close they probe the borders would make people wake up and say WTAF.
Here also some sanitised info on NATO mock war games playing over the skies of Europe by day, and especially by night.
They want to brag, but if they show how close they nudge the RF borders, it would alarm most clear thinkers.
https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1494762643932205056?cxt=HHwWgMDS8Y-tu74pAAAA
B2 escorted by F35’s
https://twitter.com/CcibChris/status/1494588648427302915
>twitter: I do love that image, a US bomber in front of the White cliffs with a UK RAF escort, what’s not to like.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2022 7:25 utc | 300