Piotr Berman “do legumes like soybeans need potassium fertilizers?”
Flowering and fruiting plants require sufficient potassium for the flowering and fruiting. No or low potassium and no flowers and fruits. Any soil deficient in potassium requires addition to achieve any sort of crop yield.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 18 2022 20:00 utc | 104

Peter AU 1 @ 56 and elsewhere:
Consider also that morale may be low in the Ukrainian army. I should think also an army made up of unwilling conscripts, forced to join under some kind of pressure (such as threat of expulsion from high school or university?), lack of discipline among units (esp Nazi battalions) attached to the army and poor trainibg, along with an internal culture of bullying and recent history of failures, will be so dysfunctional as to be useless. No wonder NATO had to send in hundreds if not thousands of mercenaries aka “advisors”.

Posted by: Jen | Feb 18 2022 20:04 utc | 106

Ottawa Police Armed With Assault Rifles Close In On ‘Freedom Convoy’

Posted by: librul | Feb 18 2022 20:10 utc | 108

I should have added @ 106 that there may be defections of soldiers and even units of soldiers from the Ukrainian side to the Donbass defenders. They may supply the Donbass side with weapons and ammunition as well.
In extreme situations, if the opportunity comes, Ukrainian soldiers might even turn on the Nazi units among their ranks.

Posted by: Jen | Feb 18 2022 20:12 utc | 110

Peter Au1@101 Azoz and Right Sector will be rear guard, they will never go to the front line. They will shoot any shell shocked Ukrainian regulars trying to leave, but they will never see combat until or unless the LDPR collapses, then they go in on a rape a pillage spree. Which will never be allowed by Russia. Orlov posted over on Saker a training vid to show what an Orc advance will face.
MRLS batteries, awesome vid btw. Would not want to be on the receiving end of them.
Russia will evacuate front line humans back to about forty or fifty miles. LDPR line of contact will collapse, intentionally, pull back will be to main LDPR defences. Everything in that forty to fifty mile kill zone will be turned to fertilizer, just in time for the spring potato plant. Compost is compost. Now, as Mr Putin promised, those ordering the attacks will be punished. A few cruise missiles gone astray may be a nasty surprise, God willing, for the Azoz and Right Sector groups.
Cheers

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 18 2022 20:15 utc | 112

Jen 106
Swamping them with weapons – lots of shoulder fired missiles and that sort of thing may have boosted moral a bit. I have the feeling that in general, after 8 years of non stop propaganda, even the bulk of the non fanatical Russia haters would think the ethnic Russians of Donbass and Russia is attacking them.
Just have wait and see what eventuates now but every time I see US come up with a new scheme for attacking Putin and Russia, I can’t help thinking about Wily. E. Coyote and his never ending schemes to catch road runner.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 18 2022 20:17 utc | 114

Don Bacon @21
This may or may not be significant or important: while researching many of the aspects surrounding the ’14 coup I came across a map showing the known or believed shale gas deposits within Ukraine. One area is in the northwestern part of the country and the other almost exactly superimposes the area under control of the breakaway areas of Donetsk and Luhansk. Also, before ’14 the oil majors Exxon, Shell, and Chevron all had signed joint development agreements with entities within Ukraine to develop those plays – remember that HRC is a big shale gas proponent. After the coup all those oil majors got cold feet and reneged.
Like I said this may be of no significance, but, seeing as energy (and $$$$$) is part of the mix in all of this (when isn’t it?) just thought I’d add it to the discussion.

Posted by: vinnieoh | Feb 18 2022 20:28 utc | 116

Trudeau has been accused of conflict of interest by several people. Is this the reason he ordered 10 times the amount of Covid Vaxx necessary for the Canadians? (Note Macron similarily ordered enough for five years of multiple jabs.)
Of course others have denied that he is making a fortune out of Vaxx.
However, the use of nano-particles is worrisome, as was the discovery of graphene particles earlier.
*He identifies Acuitas and Arbutus Biopharma as the inventors of the lipid nanoparticles licensed to inject the COVID-19 mRNA injections into every recipient.
*Trudeau failed to disclose this information with the Canadian people, according to Dr. Martin.
*Martin reiterates that this may explain why Trudeau ordered 10 times as many shots as there are Canadians.
https://welovetrump.com/2022/02/16/does-justin-trudeaus-foundation-hold-40-ownership-of-acuitas-manufacturer-of-lipid-nanoparticles-in-the-covid-mrna-jabs-is-this-the-reason-he-wont-back-down-watch/
THe site only presents the case and tries to not take sides. Anyone know if this accusation is true?
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Spinworthy | Feb 18 2022 19:31 utc | 94
The best examples of this tactic were those used during the liberation of Aleppo from Terrorists. 1) The Russian backed (and commanded by?) SAA put pressure on, and could be seen to be advancing towards prepared opposition fortified lines. 2) The advance stopped. Surprising those who wanted to see a pitched battle. They then retreated a small amount. “Humanitarian” corridors for the evauation of civilians and those who wanted out were opened, 3) The terrorists “saw” an opening to attack. They left their prepared lines. 4) Once outside their prepared lines they were easier to eliminate.
The Normans did something similar at Hastings, so it is not a recent invention. But then the Saxons fell for just about any wishful thinking on their part. I don’t know if there was an early ancestor of Truss involved.
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So the evacuation of civilians (and Putin is giving 10’000 rubles per person arriving in Rostov to “tide them over”) will leave a psychological void. Will the Ukeidiots jump in?
*
One thing that has added to the “take your vacances now or never” flight of many operatives from Kiev to Lvov or further, is said to be the accuracy of the “list” the Russians have of those who control and coordinate the NatoUkes. (non-natives)

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 18 2022 20:31 utc | 118

@Jen | Feb 18 2022 20:12 utc | 110
On UAF defections and
“In extreme situations, if the opportunity comes, Ukrainian soldiers might even turn on the Nazi units among their ranks.”
I’d thought about this as well. Since 2015 I remember several instances of firefights between the UAF and the Nazi militias. If/when this might happen now I wonder how the Western media is going to try to spin this.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Feb 18 2022 20:33 utc | 120

@Piotr Berman #99
I posted a week or two ago, an open letter from one of the Kansas Senators that specifically talked about the fertilitizer situation and farming.
Long story short: China and Russia supply a huge proportion of nitrogen fertilizers. Both countries are essentially blocking exports of these.
In addition to the nitrogen fertilizers – which are primarily created from natural gas, there are also potassium (potash) and phosporus fertilizers.
And guess who supplies 20% of the potash fertilizers exports in the world? Belarus – which is under sanctions.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 18 2022 20:36 utc | 122

Soooooo, all the deaths and disabilities attributed to Covid are fakery? And if we all just ignored it, it will just go away?
More astroturf protesters is what we need. Anti-vax/anti-government, one in the same. Sometimes in life, its wise to do things you don’t like, for the benefit others. Not rocket science.

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 18 2022 20:38 utc | 124

The problem with the neocon master plan is
Their objective is subjegation of Russia and Russia is well aware of this. Negotiations would only be for the terms of surrender. So whatever the treat or carrot tendered the intent is unchanged. Russias plan can only be to defeat them whether involves war or something like diplomacy – this agression can be turned against them. Russia cannot decide for Germany what should be done about ns2. US is damaging itself in this and is helpless to stop it.

Posted by: jared | Feb 18 2022 20:44 utc | 126

One of the live feeds of Ottawa librul tried to post @108
https://youtu.be/SUx-wHaUv2U

Posted by: Sushi | Feb 18 2022 20:47 utc | 128

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 18 2022 20:36 utc | 121
Saskatchewan Canada is the largest producer of Potash, so I am sure the US will take its share.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 18 2022 20:53 utc | 130

https://twitter.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/1494723391764508676
Rifles

Posted by: librul | Feb 18 2022 20:57 utc | 132

It is a problem for the world (and really for the US in bigger picture) that the US, UK and Austraila are able to operate from positions of relative safety – physical isolation. If for example some minor ordinance were to land (repeatedly over a period of weeks) in suburbs of VA, peace would suddenly break-out and birds would sing. Its not that I would advocate for such a thing but just as thought experiment.

Posted by: jared | Feb 18 2022 21:02 utc | 134

Scotch Bingeington 132
By now all protesters would have been photographed at some point.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 18 2022 21:04 utc | 136

@oldhippie #122:

Just watched a series of videos on Vigilant Fox at Telegram. Can’t link to that service, you could find if if you have Telegram.

Here’s the link to the web version: The Vigilant Fox Telegram channel.

Posted by: S | Feb 18 2022 21:06 utc | 138

I’ve now read Orlov and he’s out of his mind. Also here I see people obsessing about the “optics”. Get into that state of mind, and before every step you take you’ll be asking yourself “But will it please my enemies?” Russia can never win this game, because it doesn’t control the media that count. At some point, you have to take–no not the most gory action, but the one you consider to be best for your own side. I’m pretty sure Blinken never worries “But what will Tass write about me today?”
I have to say Putin sounded much more clear-headed at that press conference: “We will be sanctioned anyway; excuses will be found as needed.” So you can either be sanctioned and derided, or sanctioned and feared. Both bad options, yes, but not equally bad.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 18 2022 21:15 utc | 140

Today Putin met with his Security Council and Belarus’s Lukashenko, afterwhich he held a presser where TASS reported the two leaders have decided that sanctions will be applied regardless:
“‘Sanctions will be imposed in any case. Whether they have a reason today, for example, in connection with the events in Ukraine, or there is no such reason – it will be found, because the goal is different, in this case the goal is to slow down the development of Russia and Belarus,’ the Russian leader said.
“‘With this aim, there will always be a reason to introduce certain illegitimate restrictions, and this is nothing more than unfair competition,’ the Russian leader added.
“He stressed that sanctions pressure ‘is absolutely illegitimate.’
“‘This is a gross violation of international law, but those who are now talking about it (about possible new sanctions – TASS) they care about it (the international law -TASS) only when it is advantageous to them. When it is not advantageous to them, they are happy to forget about all the norms of international public right,’ Putin said.” [My Emphasis]
The escalation follows immediately after the public accusation of multiple treaty violations by the Outlaw US Empire and NATO. IMO, Zelensky is telling the truth when he says Kiev didn’t order the escalation; those that control him did. I intend to read the presser transcript, but at present there’s enough info in the report to guess what Russia will do. These parts are where I get the hints:
“He noted with regret that Moscow and Minsk have been living ‘in such a paradigm for many, many years, because those in power, [who] consider themselves the masters of today’s life, they always interpret everything only in their own favor and neglect the interests of other [countries].’
“‘There is only one way to overcome this state of affairs – to strengthen ourselves from within, and above all, of course, in the economy,’ the head of state stated….
“He recalled over the last eight years Russia has done a lot in terms of import substitution. ‘We did not do everything that we planned, but in general it can be said that more than 90% of the tasks that we set for ourselves have been solved,’ the Russian leader said.
However, he noted that ‘much remains to be done’ in this area in order to increase the level of economic sovereignty….
“The Russian leader noted that today many countries face the consequences of sanctions, ‘even allies of the United States.’
“‘They simply keep their mouths shut, keep silent, tolerate it. But <…> nobody likes it: they don’t like secondary sanctions, and they don’t like direct sanctions pressure either,’ Putin said.
“‘Sooner or later, this abscess, of course, will break through. But today it is important for us to raise the level of our economic sovereignty and be more capable, modern, and give new impetus to the development of modern areas of the economy,’ Putin stressed.” [My Emphasis]
Much of this fits with the assessment I made at the end of the previous thread about actions Russia, China and other nations take that will lead to sanctions blowback. Also as others have noted, if sanctions are going to be applied regardless, then might as well solve the Ukraine issue. And Lvov isn’t far enough away, nor is the Beltway or Downing Street, although it seems the Queen’s Castle ought to be the first choice in UK if that sort of attack is done–beheading the Hydra.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 18 2022 21:22 utc | 142

@ c1ue #121
The 3 main fertilizers that are essential for all life are nicknamed N,P,K in your fertilizer bags. These stands for: Nitrogen, Phosphate and Potassium (K is for Kalium which is in German). Nitrogen fertilizers are a family of fertilizers that contain atmospheric Nitrogen like Anhydrous Ammonia, Urea & Ammonium Nitrate. Crops that are rapid growing like corn require lots of Nitrogen fertilizer. These are produced by different chemical synthesis ( Anhydrous Ammonia is produced via the Haber-Bosch process). The production of Anhydrous Ammonia consumes Natural Gas or less likely other Hydrocarbons. Coke has been used in Reforming and water shift reactions to produce the Hydrogen rich stream required to react with atmospheric Nitrogen. Urea and Ammonium Nitrate are produced downstream of the Ammonia plant by other processes that use Anhydrous Ammonia like the Ostwald process to produce Nitric Acid which is then reacted with Anhydrous Ammonia to make Ammonium Nitrate. In contrast, Phosphate and Potash are mined. Phosphate is mined in Morocco and in Florida. Potash is mined in Saskatchewan and in Belarus. A form of Potassium bearing mineral is mined and processed in New Mexico. Potash is also extracted by solution mining from the Dead Sea by both Israel and Jordan.
Russia is a net exporter of Natural Gas so it is not surprising that it is responsible for 60% of the world’s production of Ammonium Nitrate. Russia has suspended AN export sales for the next 2 months. They have asserted that export sales will continue after the 2 month pause. Qatar produces a lot of Urea. Likewise, Belarus suspended export sales of Potash and that will bring a price bonanza to Saskatchewan based miners and producers. China has also stopped selling Phosphate. This will bring a risk to yields of grain and increase food costs. No one has explained the true reasons but it could be preparations for war. Countries involved in hostilities or targets of hostilities would want to stockpile reserves of fertilizer ahead of a big conflagration but this is speculation on my part at this point.
The special case with Ammonium Nitrate is that it is dual use because it is an energetic material useful in mining and quarrying, road work, etc. after mixing with Fuel Oil to make ANFO a blasting agent Typically the low density AN is called Technical grade to differentiate from the High Density AN called Fertilizer grade.

Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 18 2022 21:26 utc | 144

So, hundreds of thousands of Russian speaking civilians streaming as refugees into Russia, Donetsk and Lugansk under heavy artillery fire, the Ukranazi coup regime now more than obviously about to launch a full scale invasion of the territory, which will mean Russia has to either
1. Finally and belatedly take military action or
2. Be publicly humiliated in the full view of the world.
But I’m the one who’s a “troll” for saying over and over that the Putinist regime should have invaded Ukranazistan in 2014 or at least permitted the Donbass armies to liberate the Russian speaking areas, and that it was unforgivable of Putin to have not done so, right?
I’m the troll, right?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 18 2022 21:33 utc | 146

@c1ue #121:

And guess who supplies 20% of the potash fertilizers exports in the world? Belarus – which is under sanctions.

Yep. World exports of potash as of 2020: 39% Canada, 21% Belarus, 19% Russia, 21% other countries. China is a big producer, but since it is now consuming more than it is producing, it has to import.

Posted by: S | Feb 18 2022 21:35 utc | 148

From Ottawa police
“ All media who are attending the area, please keep a distance and stay out of police operations for your safety. Anyone found within areas undergoing enforcement may be subject to arrest. There will be a media availability later today at 474 Elgin Street. ”
https://twitter.com/OttawaPolice/status/1494683910411751426
So now they will arrest reporters?
For your safety and your health I gather

Posted by: DG | Feb 18 2022 21:42 utc | 150

re: Robert Macaire | Feb 18 2022 21:39 utc | 148
I think Orlov is saying that the ENTIRE population of Donbass should be evacuated. I don’t see that happening for a number of reasons. But what is happening is that the women and children are elderly are being displaced, while the military forces remain. Russia evacuated (or at least attempted to evacuate) civilian populations in Syria before fighting began. It makes sense to minimize suffering of these unfortunate people if large scale fighting is expected. Donetsk is not that far from the front lines; it is smart to get these people out before a large UAF assault begins.
I wish Russia had made more of an issue of the UAF troop buildup on the Donbass border. All we have been hearing is about the 150,000 -200,000 Russian troops about to invade. But there is absolutely no knowledge in the West of the UAF troop buildup. What I expect to happen is that the MSM will say the evacuations are a PR stunt that is part of a Russia false flag, etc. That lie would be harder to sell if people understood that a large Ukrainian army is about to descend upon Donbass.

Posted by: Perimetr | Feb 18 2022 21:51 utc | 152

Posted by: Perimetr | Feb 18 2022 21:51 utc | 151
And how would they understand that the Ukies were putting troops on the border, if no one in the West reported it.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 18 2022 21:57 utc | 154

Imagine what will happen in the next 2 year
Posted by: DG | Feb 18 2022 19:48 utc | 100
Ottawa will get its city back! You know, “freedom?”

Posted by: Deskscape | Feb 18 2022 22:02 utc | 156

re: Blue Dotterel | Feb 18 2022 21:57 utc | 153
I agree that those US citizens who rely only on CNN, MSNBC, NPR, the NYTimes, WashPost, etc would not hear about it.
But there are some percentage of the US public who actively search for alternative news, and they would notice if Russia put this information out. I spent a fair amount of time looking for the number of troops that the UAF had positioned on the Donbass border, and the only sources I found were those in Donbass and Gilbert Doctorow. That was when I began wondering why this information was not being broadcast . . . it would have helped to counteract the US propaganda blitzkrieg.
Russia could have used the UNSC to provide photos and information the same way that the US did during the Cuban Missile Crisis, or at the very least, their Ministry of Defense could have made a point of routinely providing troop estimates. This would have been more effective than remaining on the defensive, basically denying that Russia has no plans or desire to invade Ukraine.

Posted by: Perimetr | Feb 18 2022 22:07 utc | 158

I just watched the Biden speech and it looks like the yanks are determined to turn Ukraine into a full blown war before the Blinken Lavrov meeting on the 24th. They are also determined that Keiv will be ‘invaded by Russia’.
Ukraine SBU took a big part in the MH17 events.
This is quite likely going on in Keiv at the moment or has already been done.

https://news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/World/20220219/3909169.html
Claiming that it has information about the mining of a number of social infrastructure facilities in Donetsk by Russian special services, the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU) on late Friday urged residents in Donetsk not to leave their home and avoid using public transport.
Taking to Twitter, the DIU said these measures are aimed at destabilizing the situation in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine and creating grounds for accusing Ukraine of terrorist acts.
“The DIU of the State Security Service is authorized to state that the military intelligence of Ukraine has information about the mining of a number of social infrastructure facilities in Donetsk by Russian special services in order to further undermine them,” tweeted Defence Intelligence of Ukraine.
“These measures are aimed at destabilizing the situation in the temporarily occupied territories of our state and creating grounds for accusing Ukraine of terrorist acts,” it added.

Zelenskiy planned to fly out of the country to meet see American officials but they are telling him its best he stays in Keiv. This adds to my previous thoughts that Zelenskiy, the President of Ukraine is intended to be a casualty of the ‘Russian invasion’.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 18 2022 22:15 utc | 160

Blue Dotterel | Feb 18 2022 20:57 utc | 130
the folks who come to this site are well versed in official narratives and government overreach and seek the truth. They are not innocent consumers of legacy news unaware of the subterfuge. They do not mistake anti-passport with ‘antivaxxxers’ an intentional insult designed to divide and inflame.
They are crawling out of the wood work now forgetting to veil their interest in promoting the ‘science’ of the regime.
Good.

Posted by: ld | Feb 18 2022 22:20 utc | 162

THE WAR IN DONBASS MUST END NOW!
from the article – The UN Security Council should meet and pass a resolution obliging all parties to the conflict to cease firing and withdraw a certain distance from the front lines. It should also mandate the immediate dispatch of an international peace keeping force to occupy the territory between the two warring parties. Sanctions, or other forms of coercion, would be enacted against those who refuse to comply.

Posted by: james | Feb 18 2022 22:26 utc | 164

@ karlof1.. thanks.. paul robinson is being skewered in the comment section for his naivety here..

Posted by: james | Feb 18 2022 22:36 utc | 166

I can’t believe people are still fighting each other about Covid. Get a grip. Covid’s utility now is only to divide what’s left of the anti imperialist movement and make you turn against each other, something I warned against in mid 2020. I hope you’re proud of yourselves.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 18 2022 22:38 utc | 168

@Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 18 2022 22:38 utc | 167
Covid’s utility now is only to divide what’s left of the anti imperialist movement
Democrats turned pro-warmonger, pro-Banksters, pro-Security State years ago.

Posted by: librul | Feb 18 2022 22:44 utc | 170

@Sun Tzu #143:

Likewise, Belarus suspended export sales of Potash and that will bring a price bonanza to Saskatchewan based miners and producers.

Belarus has not suspended exports of potash. It was Lithuania that has stopped the transit of Belarusian potash on February 1. The Ukraine followed suit on February 16. (Since the Ukraine is also a consumer of potash, it will now have to buy it elsewhere at a much greater price.) Both Lithuania and the Ukraine have stopped transiting and/or buying Belarusian potash because of the U.S. sanctions against Belarus. Belarus now wants to export potash through Russian ports, but Russian ports capacity is limited and will take years to expand.

Posted by: S | Feb 18 2022 22:48 utc | 172

Perimetr 151 “What I expect to happen is that the MSM will say the evacuations are a PR stunt that is part of a Russia false flag, etc.”
That is what some MSM headlines have been saying and now also Biden is saying that which is to be expected.
Everythging that now occurs against Donbass is a Russian false flag to justify their coming invasion is how the narrative has been set up.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 18 2022 22:51 utc | 174

@Peter AU1 (173)
For your own good, stop being so defeatist. I can see a man totally consumed by the US narrative.
Russia isn’t passively going to let events fall in line with that narrative.

Posted by: bjd | Feb 18 2022 22:57 utc | 176

I’ve now read Orlov’s item at The Saker, and I concur. The #1 asset of the Donbas is its people, and they would also be an asset of Ukraine if the Golpistas ever got their collective heads out of their asses. Russia faces a demographic problem as Orlov notes, and the infusion of Donbass assets will be very welcomed as I wrote above. Donbass’s defense forces ought to perform a fighting retreat, which could also be characterized as allowing Ukie forces to enter a very well-prepared killing zone. The mines and any other physical assets ought to be sabotaged, destroyed and thus denied to the Ukies. Then comes the urban landscape which ought to be made a wasteland via a savage scorched earth policy using as much artillery as needed. Absolutely no assets whatsoever ought to remain, yet no attempt at reconstruction will be allowed until UNSCR 2202 is implemented, discussions to be held with the Donbass government in exile.
IMO, such a policy will shock many and worsen the standing of the Outlaws, for they will have no grounds for their sanctions from hell, and their treaty violations will be even more obvious along with the refusal to implement a UNSCR themselves approved. And yes, such an action would indeed be a military technical operation that achieves the goal of eliminating the Ukie military. Ah, but will the Ukies take the bait and advance into the killing zone? The more zealous will be hard to hold back; but let’s say most don’t advance, so then what? The Donbass defense forces will remain, and Minsk will still need to be implemented. Russia and Belarus avoid war and continue their economic development and the EAEU/BRI project gains even more traction. And if the Outlaws enact the sanctions from hell, Russia, Belarus and the rest of the world will watch the blowback occur as the Outlaws destroy themselves.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 18 2022 22:59 utc | 178

re: bjd | Feb 18 2022 22:57 utc | 175
Peter doesn’t make “defeatist” posts. We both were commenting on how the US will do anything to twist the narrative.

Posted by: Perimetr | Feb 18 2022 23:03 utc | 180

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 18 2022 18:26 utc | 72
A lot of people are watching, and most police support the truckers
Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 18 2022 19:02 utc | 86
If the police had done their job in the first place, the whole issue of using the Emergencies Act would have been moot. Would it be too cynical to question if that was the intent all along?

Posted by: farm ecologist | Feb 18 2022 23:07 utc | 182

bjd | Feb 18 2022 22:57 utc | 175
Yeah and around these blogs the other day all were dancing in the streets because they thought the US/UK was no longer capable of anything other than propaganda for there domestic audience or it was simply empty propaganda for Biden and the Dems to get re-elected. Different fucking story now.
A good rule of thumb to follow is US always uses projection. It projects onto target states what they themselves are doing. Follow the official propaganda and you will know what they are doing.
Waste of time being an ostrich or the deaf monkey which it seems is what you prefer.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 18 2022 23:12 utc | 184

is there anything worse than the warmongering Drudge with this headline/link, Putin Wants Kyiv, linking to the warmongering UK Mirror which quotes the warmongering Joe Biden
this whole circus has become just exasperating, to say the least
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-joe-biden-says-russia-26273949
Joe Biden says Russia ‘intends to attack’ Ukraine and seize capital Kyiv
Joe Biden says he has reason to believe Russian forces are planning to attack Ukraine in the coming days, with Vladimir Putin attempting to set up a ‘false justification’ to launch an invasion.
UK Government officials are also reportedly certain Putin – who will watch nuclear missile tests tomorrow – will order Kremlin forces to attack….

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 18 2022 23:19 utc | 186

How anybody with actual red blood in their veins can tolerate the sort of scum that these bastards will feed and raise out of any society they come in contact with is an enigma better left for future history books.
The anglo-descendent stranglehold on global affairs MUST be wounded and broken, or it will be the doom of us all, themselves included.
Please don’t read this as an essentialist, racist condemnation on the peoples and nations this fountain of shit sprung from; it has happened before and it will most likely happen again in the future, it’s a runaway destructive position of dominance and a product of history which different nations fall into in different contexts.
My apologies, I still had some vitriol itching in my throat left from the last post.

Posted by: Misotheist | Feb 18 2022 23:27 utc | 188

Perimetr @157: “I agree that those US citizens who rely only on CNN, MSNBC, NPR, the NYTimes, WashPost, etc would not hear about it.”
You can add Canadian citizens who rely only on CBC, CTV, Global, CP24, City News, etc., to your list.

Posted by: spudski | Feb 18 2022 23:30 utc | 190

@S #171
I stand to be corrected but Belarus producer declared “Force Majeure” and will not meet contracts. Shipments have been halted. If you are in disagreement with it vent your frustrations with allah the pope or with whomever you worship.
“A Belarusian potash miner that accounts for a major chunk of global supply has declared force majeure, shaking up a market that’s already contending with soaring prices.
Belaruskali said around Feb. 16 that it won’t be able to meet its contracts, according to a letter from an exporter addressed to clients seen by Bloomberg. Shipments have been halted as a result of U.S. and European sanctions.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-17/belarus-potash-maker-roils-fertilizer-markets-with-force-majeure

Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 18 2022 23:35 utc | 192

russia needs to move fast. secure the east, but avoid going to kyiv. and give diplomacy one more chance so the t’s are crossed and i’s dotted

Posted by: line islands | Feb 18 2022 23:46 utc | 194

that video by the Gravel Institute is pretty good, but I didn’t like the way it seemed to insinuate the fault is equally shared by Russia and the US/NATO. and even then the comment section was pretty abysmal, with a lot of accusations of being “Russian propaganda”, just a mindless reflectin of msm bullshit. to be fair, a good deal of support, too.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 18 2022 23:49 utc | 196

karlof1 190 “You and I won’t live to see how the saga ends, but we can see enough now to predict that ending, provided the Outlaws refrain from employing WMDs”
My thought after the joint statement by Russia China was the end of the US is now inevitable. That is something I have wanted to see for a long time. We see what is happening at the moment in Canada and for me the Authoritarian response was inevitable. Assange, an Australian citizen, but these and many other cases are enemies of five-eyes. It is not just our governments we are up against but the five-eyes empire. The collapse of the US and with it the collapse of the western economies is the only thing that I can see that will change this. And I think that is new going to happen in the foreseeable future even though we probably won’t see it.
It sure would be interesting to watch though. Putin’s moves are always interesting and I think China will make some major moves in the not to distant future and that too I think will be interesting.
On economies and so forth, it is not that long since the west moved from production based economy to what the snake oil salesmen told us was a ‘services’ based economy which includes huge amounts of property speculation. About the time western manufacturing began to be off shored.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2022 0:02 utc | 198

I expect the msm in all majority english speaking counries are pretty well part of the propaganda choir.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 19 2022 0:07 utc | 200