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February 9, 2022
Open Thread 2022-12

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@ Perimetr | Feb 12 2022 16:32 utc | 399 with the link to an example of the world locking down/up…..not sure which it is….grin
Thanks for that.
All the proxy wars are coming home to roost. These next few weeks are going to be quite lively it seems. What will be interesting to see is if we are still around to ask “Who won the war?”.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 12 2022 16:40 utc | 401

@ librul | Feb 12 2022 12:49 utc | 382
How many infections in the unjabbed? In the jabbed? Many, many, especially since the dominance of Omicron during the past several months.
Therefore assuming the unvaxxed provide a pure comparison group is wrong. Similar with the vaxxed.
Sophisticated, expensive (currently) testing for infection exposure beyond the antibody presence window post infection (~ 3months) is necessary to analyze population demographic results re effects of infection and effects of vaccination.
Statistics need to routinely include natural infection data. Do kids have widespread natural immunity now? Probably but one by one should be the standard of care just like for adults.
==
We show that, beyond the first 30 d after infection, individuals with COVID-19 are at increased risk of incident cardiovascular disease spanning several categories, including cerebrovascular disorders, dysrhythmias, ischemic and non-ischemic heart disease, pericarditis, myocarditis, heart failure and thromboembolic disease. These risks and burdens were evident even among individuals who were not hospitalized during the acute phase of the infection and increased in a graded fashion according to the care setting during the acute phase (non-hospitalized, hospitalized and admitted to intensive care). Our results provide evidence that the risk and 1-year burden of cardiovascular disease in survivors of acute COVID-19 are substantial. Care pathways of those surviving the acute episode of COVID-19 should include attention to cardiovascular health and disease.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3

Posted by: suzan | Feb 12 2022 16:45 utc | 402

@retiredmecheng #398
One measure is active sonar. If you get really close to a sub – as in right above it – a full blast active ping can peel paint.
FYI – the link doesn’t work as is. The trailing character has to be deleted.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 12 2022 16:57 utc | 403

$10M for Freedom convoy is blocked twice, but $90M for BLM – of which $60M appears to be unaccounted for – is no problem…
What happened to $60M of the $90M donated to Black Lives Matter?

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 12 2022 16:59 utc | 404

Ukraine lobby-storm in the US
Ukrainian lobbyists mounted unprecedented campaign on US lawmakers in 2021

As tensions with Russia reach a boiling point, lobbyists from Ukraine are working feverishly to shape the U.S. response. Firms working for Ukrainian interests have inundated congressional offices, think tanks, and journalists with more than 10,000 messages and meetings in 2021, according to an analysis of Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA, filings for a forthcoming report from the Quincy Institute. To put this extraordinary campaign into perspective, the Saudi lobby — known for being one of the largest foreign lobbies in D.C. — reported 2,834 contacts, barely a quarter of what Ukraine’s agents have done.

The focus of the article is Republicans! bad! But of course no mention of Hunter Biden/Burisma or Joe Biden’s historical contacts with Ukraine.
Or, for that matter, the Israel lobby. I wonder how they compare with Ukraine/Saudi Arabia…

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 12 2022 17:03 utc | 405

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 12 2022 16:57 utc | 403
Thanks. I wonder if this incident was within the 12 nautical mile limit? Is this type of incident common where a USN submarine gets detected and pinged with active sonar within the 12 nautical mile limit? And have the Russians been caught doing this?
I just trying to understand if this is a routine incident, or one that is much more serious…

Posted by: retiredmecheng | Feb 12 2022 17:29 utc | 406

@ retiredmecheng | Feb 12 2022 17:29 utc | 406… check out b’s new thread..

Posted by: james | Feb 12 2022 17:35 utc | 407

It seems love is in the air for the Beijing Olympics, even in Japan:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202202/1252046.shtml

Posted by: Smith | Feb 12 2022 18:00 utc | 408

To keep your spirits up; this is Bidens new director of nuclear waste disposal. He will take his place on the “meltaway” instead of the “beltway”.
https://twitter.com/daxtonbrown/status/1492207599105630212/photo/1

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 12 2022 18:31 utc | 409

@ Stonebird | Feb 12 2022 18:31 utc | 409 with the link to Daxton Brown….LOL!!
At least his high heels and hair match color.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 12 2022 18:37 utc | 410

Let me just try an alternative interpretation on y’all. RT had this article about the Brits withdrawing all their soldiers from Ukraine. Might it just be that this is the meat, and everything else the misdirection? Them concluding that indeed the Donbass front line was a bridge too far, and they better back down before getting hurt; but blowing so much smoke that their retreat is covered politically. Yes I know, the large arms deliveries don’t quite fit in this picture.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 12 2022 19:15 utc | 411

@ Ma Laoshi | Feb 12 2022 19:15 utc | 411 who wrote about the puzzlement of the withdrawing of British troops
I had that same niggling feeling that we are seeing defeat being snatched from the jaws of victory….grin
I keep wanting to know who has the movie rights?
Back to your normal broadcast now…..

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 12 2022 19:31 utc | 412

Make noise for Freedom wherever you are!
https://youtu.be/mGonbh6wc6Y
https://youtu.be/nFBGlhS4xBY
https://youtu.be/QOKzMxKXrss
Maybe it will drive the Trudeau guy batshit crazy.:
Video Trudeau fluency disorder
Truckers’ response.
https://youtu.be/H5C8ak3DhR0
Lolol!
Go Freedom Nun!
Thank u Canada Freedom Convoy.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 12 2022 20:26 utc | 413

Keep your eyes on the big picture:
“…Unfortunately, when randomized trials of vaccines are run, they usually only look at the ability to protect against a specific pathogen, and thus fail to answer whether the vaccine provides an overall health benefit or not. Vaccine trials are also usually too short, because non-specific vaccine effects can last for years or in some cases even decades…”
https://sebastianrushworth.com/2022/02/12/non-specific-vaccine-effects-with-dr-christine-stabell-benn/

Posted by: Paul | Feb 12 2022 20:55 utc | 414

Went to my first protest today! Ever.
I just went to get a sense of it and I must say I’m quite pleased. There were around 200 people. Not too bad for small-town Newfoundland and one of several across the island protesting vaccine mandates. Lotsa Canadian flags and enthusiasm. There was a makeshift speaker system and I listened to several capable speakers and ordinary people just wanting to give themselves voice. Nothing was too outlandish or conspiracy driven. I only spoke to a couple people but I can fit in and didn’t feel the need to preach or defend a position. Gonna go back every week. Got me eye on a couple chicks lol
It maybe a waste of time but I felt…..hope. Fuck I hate that word but it’s nice knowing others are willing to go through hell as an unvaxxed joo. Maybe even take pride in it.
Doug Ford is declaring an emergency in Ontario so federal resources can be freed up to remove parliament and ambassador bridge protests. Is jt gonna hide behind Doug’s skirt?

Posted by: PleaseBeleafMe | Feb 12 2022 21:21 utc | 415

@PleaseBeleafMe | Feb 12 2022 21:21 utc | 415
I have been watching some live streams from Ottawa and I am thoroughly impressed by the way the Canadian people have been handling this so far. You are an inspiration to the world, we depend on your success. Greetings from Norway to Newfoundland btw., it was new to us when we found it 1000+ years ago, lol!

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 12 2022 21:33 utc | 416

Can’t link to Telegram. Go to TruckersForFreedom account.
Three videos from Paris today of assaults on demonstrators. Look at the “police”. Very young, thin, no situational awareness at all, very plain they have never done this before. No training, just a costume. When a bit of face is visible past the mask they look very middle class or even upper middle class. These “police” are bourgeois university students volunteering for a weekend of live action roleplay. They single out someone who looks vulnerable and do a ten to one beat down for no reason. They have never been in a real fight before and they are enjoying the heck out of injuring deplorables. In other circumstances they would be Antifa or SturmArbeiter. This is all the masters have left. In a protracted struggle these kids would have no staying power. Whenever you encounter a wokester think of these pampered thugs. They hate you.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Feb 12 2022 21:36 utc | 417

Today, the Outlaw US Empire initiated three phone calls with their Russian counterparts: Biden phoned Putin, where nothing of note took place; Blinken phoned Lavrov, a review is provided below; and Austin phoned Shoigu, where I’m sure the sub intercept was discussed but wasn’t noted in any of the reviews I read. Meanwhile, Zelensky said Ukraine has no actionable intel that Russia would invade on the 16th and issued a plea that anyone having verifiable intel to share it.
Russia’s MFA issued this report:
“The minister stressed that the propaganda campaign launched by the United States and its allies about the ‘Russian aggression’ against Ukraine pursues provocative goals, encouraging the authorities in Kiev to sabotage the Minsk agreements and harmful attempts to solve the “Donbass problem” by force.
“As the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry noted, the reaction of Washington and Brussels to the drafts of the Russian-American treaty and the agreement with NATO on security guarantees transferred by us ignores the key provisions for us, primarily on the non-expansion of the alliance and the non-deployment of strike weapons systems near the Russian borders. It was emphasized that these issues will be central to our assessment of the documents received from the United States and NATO, which will be brought to the attention of colleagues. Sergey Lavrov recalled the inadmissibility of actions that violate the commitments made at the highest level on the indivisibility of security in the Euro-Atlantic region.”
IMO, Zelensky’s behavior gives the game away, that the entire drama is just that–an attempted provocation that not even the AP is buying as zero facts are presented. Yesterday, Russia’s Security Council met, and it would certainly be helpful to know what was actually discussed, but that appears to be classified.
IMO, the immediate future seems rather clear. Very few OSCE members will stand by their treaty commitments; Hungary, Kazakhstan, Russia, Armenia, Belarus, Azerbaijan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Serbia are those I’m certain about, but only one is a NATO and EU member. Such a split will likely destroy the OSCE, which has existed since 1975, but will cause the Outlaws no pain. I doubt that outcome would change even if more OSCE/NATO/EU members stand by their commitments. Only an extraordinary outcome where the vast majority of EU/OSCE members stand by their commitments will avert a split, which would leave the Outlaws on the outside. Again, we’ll need to wait.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 12 2022 22:24 utc | 418

Just made this comment at Martyanov’s blog:
Hello, I suggest you consult Shadowstats, http://www.shadowstats.com/ Its proprietor is hip to US gov gross manipulation of economic figures and attempts to provide the real deal. Here’s his latest on inflation:
• INFLATION – FLASH (Feb 10): Year-to-year inflation continued to surge in the both the January 2022 headline Consumer Price Index (CPI-U) and the ShadowStats-Alternate CPI, with both measures hitting new multi-decade highs.
• January 2022 CPI-U annual inflation hit 7.48% [up from 7.04% in December], the steepest inflation pace since February 1982 (in 40 years); the ShadowStats “Corrected” Alternate CPI estimate hit 15.63% [up from 15.15% in December], the steepest inflation rate since June 1947 (in 75 years).
• In like manner, the January 2022 CPI-W (used in Social Security Cost of Living Adjustment [COLA] calculations, where the 2022 COLA — based on Third-Quarter 2021 — was 5.9%) hit a four-decade high of 8.23%, up from 7.81% in December.
At the top of his homepage are a series of dropdown menus. The Alternative Data button links to different charts. Current inflation is @16% and growing fast. However, IMO, the most shocking numbers are employment or the lack thereof, which is now just a hair below 25% thanks to the decades of lies about the actual size of the labor force that’s far larger than admitted, thus the very high unemployment rate.
One last note about GDP. Even his figures overstate real GDP as much or what’s counted as a positive is actually a negative. I have an opportunity later this month to chat with Dr. Hudson and intend to ask him about genuine GDP.
The life blood of the Outlaw US Empire’s economy is its dollar recycling. That will shrivel if it goes to war. Recall that during the Vietnam era, Wall Street opposed the war because of the government’s fiscal irresponsibility, and the same situation exists today but it’s even worse. Those running the Duopoly are thus split on the issue of war, which is yet another reason we see hysteria and indecision.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 13 2022 0:02 utc | 419

Given Finian Cuningham’s reasoning, IMO, for it to save its economy and thus its people, Germany must free itself from the Outlaw US Empire’s domination. It will only continue to worsen if Germany does nothing.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 13 2022 0:38 utc | 420

Ma Laoshi 411
This is very much about cutting off Russia’s revenues. Its trade with Europe. All sanctions are now dependent on a ‘Russian invasion’. If US don’t pull their Russian invasion false flag now, they will loose their grip on Europe and be a major defeat for US in laying economic siege to Russia. Doesn’t take much now for US to force sanctions onto Europe. The German Chanceler was standing beside Biden as Biden told the world NS-2 would be stopped. And all it takes is the right number of bodies in Ukraine. Perhaps a provocation on the frontlines at Donbass, bombs going off throughout Kiev and elsewhere, scream Russian invasion and it’s mission accomplished.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 13 2022 1:18 utc | 421

@retiredmecheng #406
I have no idea where the specific incident was; I’d also note that the “12 mile limit” really depends on who is saying what. The US generally considers the limit more like 200 miles.
As for pinging: there is pinging, and there is pinging.
Normal sonar just seeks to detect – and so there is some amount of power needed vs. stealth profile and distance to show a return.
But you can also use higher power to burn away/degrade stealth performance.
The sub guy on this quora thread notes that a 30 year old sub could generate up to a 750,000 watt signal – enough to boil water 3 feet from the hull.
How powerful would an anti-submarine destroyer sonar be? Unlike a sub, they generally don’t give a damn about stealth.
Now consider a max pulse which can detect 100K or more yards away, but focused on a sub say 1000 or 2000 meters down. Probably not enough to boil water but could be pretty damn unpleasant since the sound profile could be over 220 decibels. That’s pretty loud since a rocket launch is 180 DB, a rock concert is 110 db, fireworks are 120 db – and decibels are log scale.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 13 2022 2:06 utc | 422

Australia’s broken health system:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-13/covid-omicron-wave-hospitals-doctors-nurses/100815748
Most Australians don’t like the health system. They should try the bureaucratic and chronically underfunded NZ health system. There would be more ICU beds in Greater Sydney than the whole of NZ.
The private Philippines health system beats them both. The public Philippines system caters for all and is professional, adequate, caring and accomodating.
It’s decisions about priorities taken in the past.
China can build new hospitals in a week. Australia and NZ would take a year just to get council planning approval.

Posted by: Paul | Feb 13 2022 2:06 utc | 423

@Norwegian | Feb 12 2022 21:33 utc | 416
A second possible site was discovered on the west coast of nfld a few yrs ago using some sorta satellite tech.
Went to Lanse aux meadows in Oct of 20 only to discover it was closed due to covid. The place is outdoors ffs lol. It was a beautiful drive up the coast on a rare calm day. Some of the scenery was in a word stunning and I enjoyed it thoroughly.
The Lanse aux meadows site itself is probably largely unchanged from 1000 yrs ago. Nfld is called the rock for a reason and alot of our topsoil was removed during the last ice age. What your and my ancestors saw then is very much what u see now.
I was gonna walk up to the site and smoke a j but was shunned by a fisherman who proclaimed it to be a park and closed and verboten. Should of went anyways but didn’t. Good reason to go back.
Sense I got and this is all my feeling but it’s geographically ideal to spot anything entering the strait of Belle isle. From a map it looks like a decent waterway but like the cliffs of dover it’s very easy to see the Labrador side from nfld. A settlement at that location could easily spot ships and vice versa. Navigation being what it was it must of been advantageous.
Nfld and Scandinavia share cloudberties(bakeapples) and lingonberries(partridgeberries). Brought to us by the vikings? I picture someone taking a shit of digested dried berries after a long voyage across the Atlantic and voila I’m scouring the bogs looking to make mom’s favourite jam.
It amazes me how incredibly hard it must of been in that day of age to sail across the Atlantic on hope and a prayer in practically a dory and want to set up a life in alien worlds and manage to thrive. What a resilient species we are and how much is left to discover?
I’ve got Norwegian blood from my grandmother’s side. Skol.

Posted by: PleaseBeleafMe | Feb 13 2022 2:21 utc | 424

@ PleaseBeleafMe | Feb 12 2022 21:21 utc | 415.. kudos for going to the protest…
interesting commentary @ 424.. i’ve been to newfoundland and play in a group with a musician from newfoundland … his dad and brother still live their… boland is the last name…. never been to this place you talk about.. sounds fascinating… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Anse_aux_Meadows

Posted by: james | Feb 13 2022 2:54 utc | 425

I know there’s a week in review coming up tomorrow, but have this saved, so will post here and maybe retreive later. It is from the protesters in New Zealand, posted on The Daily Blog:

The Masked Moa February 13, 2022 at 9:08 am
By hand – Open letter by the protestors on the lawn: To all elected Parliamentary members as representatives of NZ people. In particular The Hon JA PM of NZ
Re: letter of Demand from the NZ people
We refer to matters of great importance to the people of New Zealand community. We hereby provide the Honourable members with a list of demands that we seek to have addressed by the Honourable members. These issues must be heard and acted upon. The Covid-19 matter has divided our nation and it is now time we the people are afforded
the opportunity to heal.
The list of demands as enunciated below represent the key issues we the people believe will move this towards resolution.
In summary these issues are:
• End all Covid –Vaccine Mandates.
• End all restrictive Traffic light systems and ensure the nation as a whole remains open, allowing trade commerce and travel to be absolutely free.
• Reject any moves for a society based on digital identity
• Remove all restrictive vaccine passports.
• Establish an Independent non-biased Investigative body to investigate any public service misconduct during the Covid-19 period.
• Reinstate and compensate those that have lost their jobs during the Covid-19 period due to vaccine mandates.
• Ensure there is fully informed consent required by parents and guardians in relation to any medical procedure/decisions/interventions for children.
• Revoke all Covid-19 related Govt endorsed legislature/acts and laws that erode the peoples sovereign rights and freedoms.
• A moratorium on the deregistration or prosecution of all registered medical practitioners silencing them from expressing their qualified medical opinion in relation to Covid-19 issues.
We invite the Honourable members to consider and adopt as enunciated in this open letter without further delay.
ProFest 22 for Peaceful Change
We are bringing together people from all walks of life in New Zealand towards a common goal.
By participating today, each one of us agrees to stand by these values and commit to non-violent action.
Peace
Respect
Opportunity
Freedom
Empathy
Sovereign
Together
We believe in Unity for Our Community.
This is a family friendly, drug and alcohol free space. Clarity is necessary.
We are succeeding and we are remaining peaceful.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 13 2022 3:10 utc | 426

Aaron Maté @aaronjmate – 0:24 UTC · Feb 13, 2022
A good question. Hard not to be suspicious when the indicted Clinton lawyer who pushed this fraud, Sussman, also hired Crowdstrike, which then accused Russia of hacking DNC. He then lobbied FBI to endorse Crowdstrike’s highly consequential allegation.
https://mate.substack.com/p/indicted-clinton-lawyer-hired-crowdstrike

Techno Fog @Techno_Fog – 16:44 UTC · Feb 12, 2022
Clinton allies used sensitive data from the Office of the President to push false Trump/Russia claims to the CIA
Why did they risked jail to link Trump to Russia?
Maybe because the origin of their fraud was the “Russian hack” of the DNC.
https://technofog.substack.com/p/durham-clinton-allies-spied-on-the

Posted by: S | Feb 13 2022 3:20 utc | 427

PleaseBeleafMe 424
I have a bit about the boats they traveled some rough oceans with. Pretty amazing. The polinesions populating the pacific islands about starting I think about three thousand years ago just in ocean going dugout canoes. The oldest dugout canoe found to date is about thirteen thousand years old, I think it was found in the sea in the Baltics or somewhere in that part of the world. Aboriginal prople of Australia have been here forty thousand years or more and they had to cross depending on sea levels at that time but perhaps somewhere be 50 – 100 km of ocean to get here. I suspect humans were ocean going well before the last great climate change and sea level rise.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 13 2022 3:25 utc | 428

FreedomConvoy USA “We have a right to resist and we have an obligation & duty to do so!” #IrnieNews (Marcel Irnie YouTube channel, 11 minutes)

Posted by: S | Feb 13 2022 3:50 utc | 429

Last night truckers at the bridge put out a call for support. So at the last minute I decided to go to Windsor instead of Ottawa. Trudeau had Ottawa pretty blocked off from traffic anyway.
The truckers were being moved when I arrived.
There were about 2000 demonstrators at the foot of the bridge with a line of cops.
When we got closer the ‘cops’ seemed a little ramshackle.
Most were young… very young. Some were short and chubby. They did not look anything like the ones I have seen at other protests.
We were told that the regular cops were off sick with covid.
Some of the truckers were still there playing music..and people who brought food for the truckers just fed all of us. People hugging laughing and dancing. How I love my countrymen. Like the old days when no one new or cared how you voted. Open genuine. Just amazing. So very glad I went.
The little cops left us alone … then the military showed up in their tactical gear in their Hummers and spoiled our fun
Ford has criminalized donations and Singh is working on the truckers licenses.
What times… even our leaders have united.
Anahoo…
gonna roll me a fattie
gonna roll it up right
not too loose
and not too tight
and to all of you
i bid you good nite

Posted by: ld | Feb 13 2022 4:26 utc | 430

Reading the analysis by Finnian Cunningham
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/02/12/american-overlord-demands-europe-sign-suicide-note/
He wants to claim that the German leader is having arm twisted by evil US president and being forced to act counter to his own country’s interest – oh poor, humiliated German guy.
But the aspect he is glossing over is that both of these people are politicians; they are pretty good at mainly one thing – lying. The German guy is saying that he will take really really mean actions per NATO, without explicitly stating that he will terminate ns2. And why would that be – because 1) he cannot say that to his own people who would think him an idiot and 2) he is bluffing (lying). Also Biden is bluffing (lying) in that he cannot force German guy to act against his country’s interests only German guy can make that choice.
So this is Putins dilemma – he is talking to empty suits, there is nobody home, they dont care, its just an f’ing job, it will likely not affect them personally and worst case they retire wealthy to Argentina. Its not worth learning his name because he is only a programmed technocrat and there are legion just like him waiting to replace him.
Putin is shadow boxing – pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Or maybe he is not, maybe he is waiting til we catch up with him before he brings the hammer down.
I hope someone is writing this all down. A lot of good words by many excellent writers reflecting the process of blundering into financial collapse and war. Its nothing like they told us. These so called leaders are selfish morons making decisions that will impact peoples lives. Democracy (if we are to call it that) is corporate facism. Capitalism is socialism for the benefit of a few. We need to warn our children and their children. They need to make better choices.

Posted by: jared | Feb 13 2022 5:23 utc | 431

Below is a quote from Xinhuanet about Yemen

HAJJAH, Yemen, Feb. 12 (Xinhua) — The Yemeni Houthis drove the government army out of Harad city in the Yemeni northern province of Hajjah on Saturday, killing more than 60 soldiers and wounding 140 others, an army source said.
“The rebels recaptured the al-Mihsam military camp and the range of high mountains from the army during today’s battle,” the source on the frontline told Xinhua.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2022 5:28 utc | 432

Below is a Xinhuanet posting about the Saturday call between Putin and Macron

MOSCOW, Feb. 12 (Xinhua) — Russian President Vladimir Putin and French President Emmanuel Macron held a phone conversation on Saturday on how to overcome the stalemate in settling the intra-Ukrainian conflict, said the Kremlin.
According to a Kremlin statement, Putin once again drew attention to the absence of a substantive response from the United States and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) to the Russian initiatives.
“Putin stressed the reluctance of the leading Western powers to prompt the Kiev authorities to implement the Minsk agreements, which was demonstrated again by the futility of the February 10 round of consultations in Berlin between political advisors to the Normandy format leaders,” said the statement.
Putin and Macron also discussed the provocative speculations about an alleged Russia’s planned “invasion” of Ukraine, which are accompanied by massive supplies of modern weaponry to Ukraine, thus creating conditions for possible aggressive actions by the Ukrainian military in Donbass, according to the statement.
The leaders agreed to keep these issues on the agenda of the Russian-French top-level dialogue, the Kremlin said, adding that they also touched upon the preservation of and full-fledged compliance with the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, formally known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2022 5:30 utc | 433

Below is a quote from a Times of Israel article

Russia recently announced it was carrying out joint military jet patrols with the Syrian air force of the airspace along Syria’s borders, including in the Golan Heights area, prompting speculation that Israel would be more hesitant to strike Syria.
Following the patrol, Ynet reported that Israeli military officials were holding talks with Russian army officers to calm tensions.
According to the report, Israeli officials were struggling to understand why Russia, which announced that such joint patrols were expected to be a regular occurrence moving forward, had apparently changed its policy toward Israel.
The report claimed, without citing a source, that Israel may limit its air campaign in Syria as a result of Russia’s move, even after discussions end.
Russian President Vladimir Putin is considered one of few allies of Syrian President Bashar Assad, and Russia is seen as using its presence in the war-torn country to gain a foothold in the Middle East.

As I have written elsewhere at MoA, I think Syria is where the next serious clash occurs.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2022 6:40 utc | 434

Posted by: juliania | Feb 13 2022 3:10 utc | 426
Thanks for your post quoting the Masked Moa on the Daily Blog. By the way, [RNZS Moa scored one of the most history changing, unrecognised and amazing feats of WW 2 in the Solomon Islands campaigns, more later]
From the Daily Blog,
# The big one is rejecting the imposition of a digital identity.
NZ is loosing it’s usual social cohesion and it’s sense of community. This sense of community is usually only found in country towns in Australia by comparison.

Posted by: Paul | Feb 13 2022 7:09 utc | 435

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2022 6:40 utc | 434
I suggested this weeks ago as well. The US and Turkey are illegally occupying the sovereign country, and Syria, Iran and Russia are in a position to demand that the illegal occupiers leave the country.
Ironically, this is similar to the Armenian occupation of Azeri territory where Turkey aided to Azerbaijan to take back its territory from the Armenians. Erdoğan needs to drop the hypocrisy and leave Syria.
Iraq may also choose to rid themselves of the current illegal occupier of their sovereign nation – the US. The were requested to leave a year ago and are stubbornly refusing.
While the US is pushing for war in Ukraine, they may get a kick in the butt in the ME.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 13 2022 7:35 utc | 436

@ c1ue | Feb 12 2022 14:54 utc | 391
The US gave India two baits for a UN Security Council seat in 1950 and 55 but Nehru didn’t bite to accommodate China.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/analysis/not-pursuing-the-unsc-seat-was-nehru-s-mistake/story-VhXC2ltVtmrtC7v3Q15aaO.html
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/not-the-cost-china-india-and-the-united-nations-security-council-1950

Posted by: Antonym | Feb 13 2022 7:40 utc | 437

psychohistorian | Feb 13 2022 5:28 utc | 432
Yemen; This is the situation as per the 12 Feb. Lots of fighting as the Houthis are trying to break a siege (Including fire control areas) around Harad. Note that they have “retaken” Al-Mihsam.
https://english.iswnews.com/22783/yemen-latest-updates-on-hajjah-fronts-12-february-2022-map-update/
It is shocking in all senses of the term how such a bloody fight with so many civils being killed, multiple Saudi Air-raids and US support for murder – goes under the radar EXCEPT for the missiles against UAE. (That the US wants “secure” bases for Corporate minions/Bankers in the Gulf, is proof that the Iranian missiles against US troops in Iraq has had a lasting effect).
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I don’t have twitter but you can usually see their latest 2-5 posts. Good site for a relativelely correct idea of what is going on.

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 13 2022 8:43 utc | 438

For what it is worth, I have been watching YouTube ,,,, NZ Herald Focus Live Covid-19 Anti-Mandate protest Parliament with mild interest for the last four days.
Today, the flags have been removed. Only the official NZ flag remains up one of the several flagpoles within the parliamentary precinct.
Perhaps it is petty, however, gone is the [fraternal] Canadian flag, the Mäori flag and the original NZ flag.
Gone completely from the crowd was the large Palestinian flag, the Tongan flag and the Samoan flag.
Of course there was no Australian flag following the notorious underarm incident of 1981/ joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2qpj-yBkwY
The inevitable Wellington rain and wind did come.

Posted by: Paul | Feb 13 2022 8:45 utc | 439

protesters in Canberra had till tonight to “move on”
known liars say 10000 and known crazies say 750000
take a look at drone footage via rumble or bitchute and try to estimate the number of people
how far off ~250000 do you think it is? in the ballpark?? that would make it ~1% of the population on the front lawn of the federal government

Posted by: Rae | Feb 13 2022 10:10 utc | 440

juliania
I have never been to NZ. I read the ‘Grapes of wrath’ when I was young but other than that haven’t read any other literature that is now considered classical. I used to like reading Murray Ball’s footrot flats though. Wal in his gumboots. The cat horse. I didn’t like cats in the house, but one day my good wife and children returned from town with a kitten. We had a bit of a mouse plague at the time and for wife and kids rocking up with a cat was simply fait accompli. The first afternoon I was sitting on the front steps, this little cat beside me and a couple of pups come into the yard. thinking he was a new playmate they came Running up the stairs but the little kitten turned into a hissing ball of fir. Both pups rolled back down the steps. Literaly. He was a good mouser but for some reason he would always put the live mice in my work boots that would be beside the door along with everyone elses shoes. I was sitting on the couch one day relaxing and the cat jumped up from behind the couch and landed on my head. I jumped so the cat dug all four claws in to hang on and I’m trying to tear him off my head. I developed a bit of respect for that cat because he reminded me of, or was very similar to Horse in Murray Balls Footrot flats. Jolliffs Saltbush Bill though was my Australia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 13 2022 10:13 utc | 441

Toronto and Ottawa need to have a general strike to support the truckers, and make clear to Trudeau and Ford that Canadians are behind the dismantling of the authoritarian mandates.
It may even be possible to bring the police and military in, at least in part, to support the strike, if peaceful in a Gandhian, MLK way.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 13 2022 10:50 utc | 442

John, I am trying to make you out. Perfidious ablbion, the abyss that looks back. I had started to think that you also, had seen what I had seen, but that – I guess open letter you posted?
I guess having a knowledge of law can be handy for minor things like traffic infringements or topping someone but… the off the books stuff.. no doubt it comes under different terms in different five-eyes countries but state interest trumps. Then there is the off the books stuff. We live under the rules based order, not the rule of law.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 13 2022 10:54 utc | 443

..Jolliffs Saltbush Bill though was my Australia.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 13 2022 10:13 utc | 441
Were they the cartoons that often featured aboriginal women with well formed naked breasts? mmm… memories/mamaries from a while ago..
re: juliania | Feb 13 2022 3:10 utc | 426
My sympathies to you for reading the Daily Blog and thanks for posting that post from the Masked Moa (do you have a link to it – I used the DB site search and it did’t come up).
Several times a week I force myself to have a look at the Daily Blog, but as I am not a masochist I don’t enjoy it – I think of much of what is written there a bad joke. (with the most of the leftists reading like pathetic stereotypes and morons and hypocrites eg veterans of 1981 Springbok tour protests calling for police to go in hard and sort out the anti-vax (mandate) protesters. They (most DB writers) make me want to puke. Here’s a couple of typically unhinged articles from the site’s editor Martyn Bradbury.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/02/13/eve-of-destruction-ukraine-invasion-countdown/
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/02/05/the-chinese-winter-olympics-are-a-human-rights-abusing-jamboree/
If I lived in the Wellington area I would have gone to the protest and smoked a couple of joints (possibly discreetly being mindful of “This is a family friendly, drug and alcohol free space. Clarity is necessary. We are succeeding and we are remaining peaceful.”) with a friend or two and enjoyed the spectacle. Later that night a radio news report on the protest mentioned amongst other things that it was a relaxed affair with reggae music being played – so I guess I was there in spirit! With regard to the vaccination campaign – “fok dem raas clot!” (as Bob Marley would say).

Posted by: tucenz | Feb 13 2022 13:07 utc | 444

FALSE FLAG
Let’s go waaaaaay back to the original meaning of this.
Pirates (and others!) would hoist “false” flags to confuse, subterfuge, other vessels.
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Here it is 2022, and people are *still* deceived when shown a flag.
Reportedly swastikas, black sun, confederate, flags have been seen among the Convoy and environs. Do these belong to *some* truckers and “supporters”.
Possibly.https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/02/us-sends-nuclear-submarine-to-harass-russia-near-japan/comments/page/2/#comments
Could the flags belong to Convoy detractors?
Probably.
Van Badham, a scribbler for the Guardian Australia, become apoplectic [ “triggered”] by a smattering of Q and Trump merchandise among a Sydney freedom march mid 2021.
Her eye, so trained and practiced, she was able to find and identify what were perhaps a handful, amidst a throng of thousands.
Given she then wrote a book about the Q cult in Australia, I, being of a suspicious mind, wonder if she might have had them planted.
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See how easy it is to accuse anyone of anything.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 13 2022 14:54 utc | 445

I can’t resist posting this. Montreal protests! Well demonstrates. And counter-demonstrates. I am so not worthy of living in this city. 2 min video clip from (my fave) La Presse:
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/grand-montreal/2022-02-12/appui-aux-camionneurs/manifestation-et-contre-manifestation-organisees-a-montreal.php
They had the best brief videos of the Yellow Vests in France too. One of my favorites ended with this middle-aged Parisian woman walking her bichon frisé dog, both wearing yellow vests. She is alone, in front of a line of riot police, and she spins a sassy pirouette in front of them while the dog barks.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 13 2022 14:57 utc | 446

One more fun post about Quebec. So – while the national government is weakened by Freedom Convoy problems, if you are an MP from a mainstream party, here is how you really sell your “we will defend you” fervour for the heavily populated La Belle Province. From question period in Parliament:
https://twitter.com/ChrisGNardi/status/1491874472185503753?s=20&t=Un3zRGLE_UZvIpdGcfsO5w

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 13 2022 15:09 utc | 447

@Antonym #437
Posting the same links over and over again doesn’t make them say shit that they don’t say.
First of all: what “China” are you referring to in 1950 and 1955?
Because the “China” on the UN Security Council in those 2 years was Taiwan – the Republic of China.
Nor am I the least bit clear why “China” on the UN Security Council in both 1950 and 1955 – i.e. Taiwan – would give a damn about India being on the UN Security Council.
I am 99.9% sure that “China” as in the PRC in 1950 and 1955 were far more concerned about evicting the ROC as “China” on the UN Security Council more than anything else.
In any case, whatever you think about Nehru declining a seat on the UN Security Council – it had nothing to do with China – either the PRC or the ROC getting a seat in the UN Security Council because the ROC was already there and the PRC was certainly being blocked by the US and many other countries – since it didn’t happen until 1971.
And the above statement is what you originally posted.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 13 2022 15:49 utc | 448

@ juliania | Feb 13 2022 3:10 utc | 426… thanks for sharing that…. i wish them success..
@ ld | Feb 13 2022 4:26 utc | 430.. kudos to you for doing all that………….
@ Melaleuca | Feb 13 2022 14:54 utc | 445… yes, false flags and a populace that remains ignorant about them… it’s an ongoing problem…

Posted by: james | Feb 13 2022 16:28 utc | 449

@Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 13 2022 10:54 utc | 443

John, I am trying to make you out.

Honestly Peter, it is much simpler if you just accept I am telling the truth.
No side, no spin. I don’t need to.

I guess having a knowledge of law can be handy for minor things like traffic infringements or topping someone but… the off the books stuff.. no doubt it comes under different terms in different five-eyes countries but state interest trumps. Then there is the off the books stuff. We live under the rules based order, not the rule of law.

What you have to understand is that these people just want closure. They want to know that they cannot be held liable at some point in the future for the terrible things that they have done.
That is why I represent their greatest nightmare. I can re-open things they thought closed many years ago.
I’ll give a personal example. The corporate entity that was Anglia Television no longer exists. And yet by law I am still an employee of Anglia Television. That is because the notice given me by Malcolm Wall does not count, and therefore my contract, my sealed contract, is still in force.
Somebody told a pack of lies when they effected the corporate winding-up of Anglia Television.
It is like a loose thread. The whole thing comes undone when I pull on it.

Posted by: John Cleary | Feb 13 2022 18:11 utc | 450

c1ue | Feb 13 2022 15:49 utc | 448
“On 17 January 1946, the Security Council met for the first time in London and adopted provisional rules of procedure. The provisional rules that were presented to the Council at its first meeting were the result of lengthy debates in a Security Council sub-committee called the Executive Committee of the UN Preparatory Commission. The Commission continued to discuss the draft for several months but in late June 1946 decided that it could not agree on a definitive set of rules of procedure.”
https://www.un.org/en/model-united-nations/security-council
So a ROC was included but not an India? Atlantic Anglo bad faith. India’s formal independence from Britain came on 15 August 1947, while the PRC was declared by Mao only on October 1 1949.
OK, Nehru was not in that picture but he was a fool regarding Mao and Zhou Enlai.

Posted by: Antonym | Feb 14 2022 4:42 utc | 451

& that London UNSC conference was prepared in San Francisco, California, USA, between 25 April and 26 June 1945 where they had TV Soong as representative of a splintered China under civil war + fighting with the Japanese imperial army. https://www.un.org/en/about-us/history-of-the-un/san-francisco-conference
At the outbreak of the Second World War, the Indian Army numbered 205,000 men and, as the war continued, this would rise to 2.5 million men to become the largest all–volunteer force in history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Indian_Army#Second_World_War
Reward from the Anglo Atlantics: zero for the Indians and a SC seat for the Chinese.

Posted by: Antonym | Feb 14 2022 11:10 utc | 452

Look at this China map animation after 1945: why would that jigsaw puzzle get a SC seat in 1946 above other firmer areas? Even on India’s independence day August 1945 China was still a splintered mess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c3jLDdDuD0

Posted by: Antonym | Feb 14 2022 11:23 utc | 453

More History being made in Canada. First time Canadian Government has government has declared Federal Martial Law.
Not even 911 called for that
there will be blood
Crickets from b
Not even a blip on his radar…. as per usual.

Posted by: ld | Feb 14 2022 22:07 utc | 454

Don’t blame b, blame Canada 🙂
There’s only so many hours in a day for anyone and why is b supposed to have anything interesting to say on any particular or every topic? It’s not like other people aren’t using open threads like this one to talk about Canada.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 15 2022 10:03 utc | 455

ld | Feb 14 2022 22:07 utc | 454 “Not even a blip on his radar…. as per usual.”
you come across like a ten year old that’s cranky because mum wont let you suck on her tit.
Or perhaps just need a fix? Demanding other people do something… like a child… It is very easy to start your own blog. Plenty of free platforms.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 15 2022 10:32 utc | 456

ld
The Canada protests are well and truly covered by Canadians that comment here in the open threads. They have an eyeball to eyeball view of what’s going on. I watch the comments, the greens are against because of the big ‘smokey’ trucks, all others are for. I am also aware that within the anglosphere, the anglosphere has the monopoly of force. But before that it controls information to the masses and it controls currency.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 15 2022 10:48 utc | 457

While I normally refrain from commenting against others, I have to say what I’m Peter who lives in Australia posted at 457 is pure and total complete BS.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 15 2022 10:59 utc | 458

Bruised Northerner 458 ” I have to say what I’m Peter who lives in Australia posted at 457 is pure and total complete BS.”
Why is that?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 15 2022 11:09 utc | 459

No, not biting – I think you should just stick to posting personal information about residents who stand up to the truckers like you did earlier in this thread.
I can’t link to the tweet. But in the Twitter account of Mackenzie Gray, reporter with CTV, (@Gray_Mackenzie) is a tweet with a 40 sec video imbedded of Green Party member Elizabeth May responding to a reporter’s question about the Emergencies Act. The tweet was posted 12 or so hours ago. She doesn’t mention diesel fumes. But according to the National, air quality in that part of Ottawa is worse than Mexico City thanks to the freedom convoy.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 15 2022 11:22 utc | 460

Bruised Northerner
I have been watching what is occurring in Canada and am genuinely interest. you have commented here fore some time and I believe you are Canadian.
Apart from religious greens there are views from those separated from the basics of life. Those involved in production, often have different views from those involved in more academic occupations.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 15 2022 11:29 utc | 461

I don’t have a twitter account so I follow a few people by keeping links to their feeds and visiting them regularly. Turns out twitter is now locking down on anonymous views too. I can stretch it by cleaning up the cache but it is getting difficult. In principle not different from the other sites like facebook and instagram but it is tightening down on who can access what. Just lost one of them too, account ml_1maria was suspended.

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Feb 15 2022 11:31 utc | 462

Bruised Northerner
After my first post, I thought about what was occurring and posted again. You posted shortly before my further thoughts. This sentence “But according to the National, air quality in that part of Ottawa is worse than Mexico City thanks to the freedom convoy.”
Are you a green? I believe in sustainability, I cannot kill animals as an occupation (i guess I’m a bit soft) but I do not identify as green or conservationist. If the were such a thing as sustainability then I would be in that movement.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 15 2022 11:42 utc | 463

I don’t have a twitter account so I follow a few people by keeping links to their feeds and visiting them regularly. Turns out twitter is now locking down on anonymous views too. I can stretch it by cleaning up the cache but it is getting difficult. In principle not different from the other sites like facebook and instagram but it is tightening down on who can access what. Just lost one of them too, account ml_1maria was suspended.
Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Feb 15 2022 11:31 utc | 462
I don’t do twitter in any form, ever, but I have had accounts I visit for “alternative views” go through half a dozen incarnations as they are suspended and reincarnated with a different name, goes on all the time, for years now.
“They” do seem to be trying harder these days. Sort of like whack-a-mole, and amusing to watch, to me.
I started visiting such sites around the time I abandoned US media entirely as news sources, and not willing to take any foreign “authorized” sources as reliable either, so I cast a broad net instead.
This won’t be good for Twitter’s business. Too bad.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 15 2022 12:14 utc | 464

My wife and I were born in Lancashire (Northern England) in the 1950’s (we are O.K) not jabbed.
RIP to Shane Warne Jabbed and dead at the age of 52 (though never a massive fan of cricket, he was the kind of Aussie I would get on really well with – blonde too)
To be honest, I have loved living in London, for most of my life, and have no problem, that us blondes have become a distinct minority. I am the least racist person I know, and if things had worked out slightly differently, my kids might have looked like a human colour merged version of zebras – half black half white. But blonde we all are, and we have suffered no racial prejudice. not even the Grandchildren (very much the distinct ethnic minority ( < 1% ) , but I don't mind. They don't mind. people are much the same wherever they come from. Whilst we have had it bad, for the last 2 covid years, and its likely to get very much worse really soon, today's news (and I am not talking Russian/Ukraine)...I am talking London, where my Mum, my Kids and my Grandchildren were born. This could be the straw, which breaks the camel's back. "Just cut your losses and move on" We haven't had a family discussion about it yet. But I think it maybe the time, before its too late, to sell up everything, and FUCK OFF "Sadiq Khan extends war on motorists with plan to expand Ultra Low Emission Zone to whole of London" London is no longer financially viable, unless you are extremely rich, or are on the dole. If you are trying to run a small business on low margins, you are screwed. I have worked out how to do it, and moving now has the advantage of me going through all my stuff since childhood, and dumping over 95% of it, before I drop dead. Over 1% is really good, and if I just drop dead, they would dump the lot and burn it with me. We kind of do it like a test... Wife and me, decide where we might like to live for the rest of our lives and try it...rent it ..live there for 6 months....and if we don't like it, come back to London If we really like it Do it. This has nothing much to do with the possibility of Westminster being nuked...I would prefer if the War Criminals were Arrested. We just don't particularly want to be in the fall out zone. Tony

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 4 2022 20:47 utc | 465