The member states of NATO are:
Albania, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Montenegro, Netherlands, North Macedonia, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States
If Germany, France, Italy, and Spain were to leave NATO and force their own European security architecture, who would join and who would stay with the US in NATO?
At the least, I would imagine the UK, Canada, Netherlands, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia would stay with NATO.

Posted by: endofnato | Feb 9 2022 18:37 utc | 4

€1 billion , not dollars… correction

Posted by: ptb | Feb 9 2022 18:39 utc | 6

Foundry I’m pretty sure there are secrets out there which too much commercial mining or simply prospecting makes too hard to continue to keep secret and under control. Some strictly controlled activity is okay but any large scale or worse yet “uninhibited” organized second or third party activity is a definite “no, never”.
That would explain why it’s a security issue and above the heads of people with business interests and most politicians.
It’s not necessarily just one secret or just one set of secrets, could be many, it’s a big place and a big world! 🙂

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 9 2022 18:42 utc | 8

And where does Japan get its gas from? They like to shop in Iran so maybe they could get a few sanctions waivers? 🙂
I get the feeling Japan is only too happy to let the US fool themselves with this kind of merry-go-round. I don’t blame them in the slightest XD

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 9 2022 18:47 utc | 10

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 9 2022 18:11 utc | 1
While I agree about things good for the goose being also good for the gander, there is another element at play in the trucker protest.
They have trucks. Trucks are massive and some of the heaviest vehicles in civil society. When a regular protest is deemed “unwanted” by the establishment and they send police to disperse it, a few water cannons, lacrimos and riot police charges are usually enough to do the job. Or, if another segment of the population is against it, “mowing down protesters” with a gun or a vehicle can happen.
Here, it’s difficult:
1) They are freight drivers, so they’re the glue that holds a vast country together. No freight, no food on shelves, no fuel, no economy. And people start starving.
2) They have these massive trucks, that nobody can forcibly remove, except by shelling them with mortars or tanks, or pushing them with very heavy construction equipment. Not the type of equipment the riot police usually has at hand.
3) They are working class, so they tend to be more organized and better at solving logistical issues such as creating shelters for the protesters, providing fuel and food, and keeping morale.
This, in my mind, is why there is a different approach to these protests. Roadrunners are raw power. Freight is leverage. Mass media try to demonize them 24/7 in any case, of course, but most people are scared, and you can tell the government is as well. They can’t do much else than shooting themselves in the foot.

Posted by: Lemming | Feb 9 2022 18:50 utc | 12

RE: Oriental Voice | Feb 9 2022 18:47 utc | 11
As long as the Unhinged States is also a part of that NATO, at least Palau, Granada and a few others should at least be manageable threats.

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 9 2022 18:57 utc | 14

Posted by: Lemming | Feb 9 2022 18:50 utc | 12
No one is scared of the protesting truckers. They are small minority of truckers and the general population in Canada who are being professionally organized by fringe right wing groups and getting funding from questionable sources. Their goals of forcing the federal government to drop the covid restrictions are illogical because the US also restricts cross border traffic to only drivers who are vaccinated, and in Canada each province has their covid policy which the federal government has no control over. The government hasn’t done much so far to stop the protests because though they are annoying, they are mostly peaceful (not because they are in trucks)…but now that this has gone on for over a week you will see more action by the police. (If this was a protest by Natives, the police would have crushed it by now, as they have done in the past.) Ironically, every province had a plan of easing restrictions over the coming months even before this protests started, but now they may have to hold back so that it doesn’t appear that they caved in to the protestors.

Posted by: Victor | Feb 9 2022 19:14 utc | 16

@Davegood#13….you doubt their safety…Doctor requests for D Dimers (blood clot test) and Troponin tests (heart issue test) rare tests for the general population, have increased severely. This spike in tests didn’t happen until the vaccines rolled out. Now, since boosters have started, cancer test requests at blood labs has skyrocketed. That’s first hand info from a front line plebotomist. Trust your doubts.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 9 2022 19:19 utc | 18

Posted by: SB | Feb 9 2022 19:27 utc | 19
Lots of assumptions here:
1) You assume I am “right-wing”;
2) You assume I am not Canadian;
3) You assume I need your input to understand what the movement is about;
“who are despised by all the institutions and leaders of the Canadian and Quebecois working class.”
-> And you know that because unions disavow them? that is one large blanket statement.
“the truckers have no support in any section of Canadian working class culture and struggles and organization”
-> Sources?
“Only fanatical right wing nuts on the far right of the Conservative Party support them”
-> Then again, sources? And I’m communist, so maybe if you believe in the horseshoe theory that would work in your mind, but hey, to each his own.
“They are the scum of fascism, hence the swastika flags on display in the protests”
-> You mean the one svastika they managed to find in a protest of tens of thousands, probably due to the continuous anti-communist propaganda we have had since the 1920s courtesy of the CBC? Makes sense. I can’t find a single open-shot picture without a Quebec flag in this protest, does that mean it is a separatist movement?
“The Canadian state should crush them.”
-> Thank you for confirming my point, which is that this protest generates a lot of fear.

Posted by: Lemming | Feb 9 2022 19:53 utc | 20

@SB#19…..great black humour, thanks for the laughs. They’ll be rolling on the floor in Petit Kiev.
Cheers, M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 9 2022 20:07 utc | 22

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 9 2022 18:11 utc | 1
Yup. And the laws are enforced in a hypocritical manner as well. For example, during the latest demonstrations against Cuba, roads, highways and bridges were blocked by protestors, none of whom were cited, much less arrested.
h/t on “reichwing media” lol, hadn’t seen that in a while.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 9 2022 20:20 utc | 24

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 9 2022 19:16 utc | 17:
So yes, Russia and China are saying they are getting closer together – but I suspect Russia would like to see something more tangible from this “alliance” than Chinese buying more Russian oil and natural gas – which they need anyway.
China would like to see something more tangible than Russia blasting lip services too. The conflict with India, I refer to the rights and wrongs, is actually crystal clear for Russia who had kept details of history in that theater, but Russia sticks to buttressing India ’til kingdom come. How come?
There were sarcastic jeers from Russia analysts about China not sending troops to backup Russian in Syria. Oh boy! They expect China to send troops and heavy hardware, over the plateau, 3500 miles of supply line over the highest mountains, to be under Russian command to fight a war of Russian choosing on behalf of an old client who in the past had acted against China at UN? To do so purely to show loyalty to someone who had paid lip services of friendship? I thought those analysts were considering Chinese idiots myself :-). Besides, it was at a time that Russians were actually winning because their supply line was 10,000 miles shorter than the Empire’s, and they didn’t even need the help except for psychological purposes.
Yes, China would buy those oil and gas anyway, but they could buy from many a sources and they could also do without. It’s only a matter of accepting GDP growth at 8% or at 5%. Buying from Russia, at a time when Russia badly needed the income and was being sanctioned into a corner precisely because of their need, was a clear and loud support gesture. It was a flash of middle finger on the Empire, and a genuine flash of friendly smile at a comrade. But the comrade didn’t think it was enough.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Feb 9 2022 20:31 utc | 26

Guess the can I opened was quite wormy.
As I understand it, the Unhinged States had mostly independent truckers until rather recently, when they were squeezed out of business by the companies they contracted their services and leased their trucks from (apparently usually the same in both cases), which in turn were in vicious cutthroat competition.
I do not know about Canada.

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 9 2022 20:39 utc | 28

So, Macron “failed to consult with any of his partners.” ROC sees right through it. Is it possible for western “leaders” to be any more clueless than they demonstrate day after day after day? It’s kind of frightening when you actually stop to think about it. We’re all a hair trigger way from disaster and this is the best the West can come up with? God help us all. How did we manage to make it this far? And now we’re all back to fighting again in Europe? Fuck that.

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Feb 9 2022 20:48 utc | 30

Interesting read by Engdahl

Mister “Open Society,” George Soros, the symbol of globalist regime change Color Revolutions since the 1980s, has just signaled that he and his globalist circles have targeted China’s President Xi Jinping for what looks a lot like regime change. On the surface, Soros’ latest sharp critique of Xi and his management of China’s economy seems bizarre.
For all his nice words about promoting open societies and democracy, Soros’ “philanthropy” has supported some of the most closed and corrupt leaders, such as Boris Yeltsin in Russia in the 1990s or Petro Poroshenko in Ukraine after the 2014 US coup. Could it be that Soros is now signaling a decision by a major faction of the globalist powers that be, to end their support of Xi in favor of other rival factions?

Why on Earth Does George Soros Want Xi Jinping to Go?

Posted by: Down South | Feb 9 2022 21:03 utc | 32

No one is scared of the protesting truckers. They are small minority of truckers and the general population in Canada who are being professionally organized by fringe right wing groups and getting funding from questionable sources. Their goals of forcing the federal government to drop the covid restrictions are illogical because the US also restricts cross border traffic to only drivers who are vaccinated, and in Canada each province has their covid policy which the federal government has no control over. The government hasn’t done much so far to stop the protests because though they are annoying, they are mostly peaceful (not because they are in trucks)…but now that this has gone on for over a week you will see more action by the police. (If this was a protest by Natives, the police would have crushed it by now, as they have done in the past.) Ironically, every province had a plan of easing restrictions over the coming months even before this protests started, but now they may have to hold back so that it doesn’t appear that they caved in to the protestors.
I saw the videos…. thousands of Tractors, some with trailers. Tens of thousands bringing them fuel, water, food….
Yes, the protest is peaceful… but the cross border bridges are fully blocked closed… wall to wall semis…
Never mentioned, least of all by you… what happened to the freight these folks used to haul…
but now don’t haul….
Is.. it sitting on the dock(s)…. rotting… going stale???
It’s claimed that unless this is cleared up by the weekend…. most US auto plants must shutdown…
reason…. no parts….
You claim these folks don’t have reason to be pissed….. go tell them that….
I’ll bet you get the crap beat out of you….
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 9 2022 21:13 utc | 34

So, Macron “failed to consult with any of his partners.” ROC sees right through it. Is it possible for western “leaders” to be any more clueless than they demonstrate day after day after day? It’s kind of frightening when you actually stop to think about it. We’re all a hair trigger way from disaster and this is the best the West can come up with? God help us all. How did we manage to make it this far? And now we’re all back to fighting again in Europe? Fuck that.
Macron was an errand boy…. he was sent to get Putin to back down…
The answer was…. NYET!
Then he went of to Ukraine… showed his true colors… further incited the UkroNazis to go to war
against the DonBas…
Mercouris believes NATO thinks it has NordStream2 as a hostage….
Were the Russians smart they’d bring all the pipelines under an SOE… and shut them down for
inspection and maintenance.. RIGHT NOW!
Let the bastards freeze…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 9 2022 21:17 utc | 36

Both SB & Victor are liberal-fascists and repeat official propaganda. I call out their hypocrisy because their totalitarian leaders support the Right Sektor installed violently in Kiev, Ukraine. They are Banderists posing as informed Canadians which they are not. The protesting trucker movement inspired mobilizes every walk of life in Canada, every age bracket, every gender, every ethnicity, every province and every political party in Canada. The media as exposed by Ezra Levant of rebelnews.com has received billions from the dictator wannabe prior to last year’s election. Since 2017, the PM is a principal stakeholder of big pharmaceutical, Acuitas, a Canadian company. This company is the inventor of the lipid nanoparticles used for delivery of mRNA strands in every mRNA “vaccine” in the world. He makes money with every person that receives a jab or a booster, even if it doesn’t do what it is supposed to do.

Posted by: Sun Tzu | Feb 9 2022 21:19 utc | 38

1. William Haught and others-
The protestors have not blocked any crucial crossing completely and EMS has confirmed that their ability to transit has not been compromised.
Seeing the hostility here directed at people who are protesting disgusts me. I pray for your souls.

Posted by: AHB | Feb 9 2022 21:29 utc | 40

I have voted NDP all my life. I campaigned with Jack Layton and David Christopherson. I did not vote in the last election because the NDP slid right. I am the farthest thing from Conservative there is. Yet here I am donating a pittance from my meagre pension to my Canadian heroes, the truckers. I am 70, too old and arthritic to stand in the cold… but I did … for hours to cheer them on. I froze my ass off. My donation money stolen by my prime minister. I am not an anti-vaxer I am vaxed up the wazoo. I am anti-totalitarianism.
FYI there are many of us leftists who support the end of mandates and passes… the numbers are growing.
One thing I do know is those whose purpose it is to invade a site to provoke with nflamatory nonsense and label people right-wing /extremists/anti-emite/homophobe… (whatever the silencer du jour)) have no wish to argue a point but take over the thread and push buttons.
Fortunately the folks here have dealt with your betters from Hasbara.
You could not even begin to shine their shoes
permanent ignore

Posted by: ld | Feb 9 2022 21:32 utc | 42

I had a 40 day period of myocarditis symptoms after the 2nd dose of Pfizer. It made life hell for me. I had constant anxiety, couldn’t relax, couldn’t get much work done, couldn’t sleep well. I sincerely regretted taking the vax because of that. All of that was over the Summer.
Now I got Omicron, and I’m on my 3rd week with the virus. I have slightly milder myocarditis and anxiety feeling (like falling down the stairs constantly), but still can’t get any sleep without medication. I don’t understand how people say this variant is mild and goes away in 1 week. It’s made my life hell 😀 But I still don’t wanna take a 3rd dose of vaccine and have yet again more of the same symptoms. Faak.

Posted by: AN | Feb 9 2022 21:46 utc | 44

Qatar is the fly in the USA ointment :))
Here at New Eastern Outlook.

Qatar is the world’s second largest exporter of LNG, only slightly behind the United States, and plays an important role in global energy markets. That is why Washington decided to place a special bet on Doha in its struggle to oust Russia from the European gas market. However, since Qatar already has several energy contracts with Asian countries, it is unclear whether it has enough gas production capacity to help supply Europe.
Nevertheless, at the insistence of Washington, the leadership of the European Union turned to Qatar for assistance. However, Doha in its response has already made a number of uncomfortable demands of the EU. In particular, to impose a moratorium on the reversal of gas to non-EU countries, thereby opposing the provision of additional income to Poland or another country on the resale of blue fuel to Kiev. Another demand of Doha was similar to the one already put forward by Moscow: contracts must be made on a long-term basis, since short-term gas supplies requested by Brussels are not acceptable to Doha, given how unprofitable they are in terms of gas industry planning. The Qatari emirs cited as the third condition the termination of the antitrust investigation against the country, which began in 2018 when the European Commission commenced to suspect Doha of violating EU free trade rules.

It seems to me that spot pricing is every supplier and consumer’s curse. Well past time to levy a large transaction tax on its every move until it suffocates.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 9 2022 21:52 utc | 46

james is in agreement with @ Hal Duell | Feb 9 2022 21:20 utc | 39 and @ ld | Feb 9 2022 21:32 utc | 42
enough is enough… this runs much deeper then the truckers.. people are tired of politicians trying to divide us based on pro or anti all of it.. i had the vaccine, but i am seriously questioning where we are at here as we move forward… victor suggests they are going to drop the mandates and etc sometime soon, but i am not so sure about this.. none of any of this talk from the gov’t adds up as i see it, so i am definitely 110% with the truckers…my circle of friends are definitely with the truckers.. this is much more then about conservatives or anti -vax or whatever other piece of garbage you want to throw at this to explain it…

Posted by: james | Feb 9 2022 21:57 utc | 48

So folks, a couple more thoughts on those trucker protests:
As I’ve mentioned multiple times, bubba and his friends have not yet come up with a manifesto. Nor an elected leader that represents their consensus (if there is one). Yes they are angry, and they drive big trucks. And yes, the restrictions will be lifted, hopefully when the medical authorities think it is appropriate, and not because the angry mob demands it.
And maybe the nurses should then blockade the hospitals. Flush out all those non-vaccinated that are polluting our hospital beds. Or maybe I am being unfair. For you anti-vaxxers out there – would you do the honourable thing? If you caught covid, and required serious medical attention, would you take one for the team, and self-treat at home in front of that big screen tv?
Is our society becoming ungovernable? Maybe, maybe not…

Posted by: retiredmecheng | Feb 9 2022 22:00 utc | 50

oooops stuffed that up:
The big question is can Macron come up with anything in his role as EU President within the the next month and satisfactory to Russia’s implied timeframe.
Back to the orchard for penance

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 9 2022 22:15 utc | 52

AN | Feb 9 2022 21:46 utc | 44
My partners son and his family are currently going thru omicron. Their symptoms approximate a bad cold. They take vit c, d, zinc, and quercetin ….and are feeling better in e days. Nb: they are unvaxxed. Your immune system may be weakened by the vaxx. Good luck and god bless

Posted by: James joseph | Feb 9 2022 22:19 utc | 54

@Oriental Voice #26
China sending troops to Syria doesn’t make sense – but even had they done so, it would really not mean a lot.
However, China openly dissenting against the sanctions on Russia would be an example of clear support for an alliance partner.
Oh, but then that would interfere with China’s nice profitable trade with the EU and the US…
As for India: I made no references as to rights or wrongs. The point is that geopolitically, India has a strong reason to want allies against China, and Russia is one such ally.
Or would you prefer India to ally with the US against China?

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 9 2022 22:24 utc | 56

Walter @ 49
Hal Turner? Are you joking? Seems like he is back on the payroll.
FBI Taught Jailed Blogger to Incite Others, Hal Turner Defense Lawyer Says

Posted by: circumspect | Feb 9 2022 22:28 utc | 58

Wrt the trucker convoys; interesting to see that the “heroes” ( alongside the medical frontline staffers ), have now become the “vilified” by presumably the very same people who regarded them as heroes during the early iterations of the pandemic. And at that time they were doing do so sans “vaccines”. Rest stops were closed, yet they continued to deliver their cargo as expected.
Now they are, according to our current CSIS social media recruits, right wing, foreign interests, anti vaxxers.
It seems that “ Victor” ( nice handle for a dupe ), and SB ( shit for brains? ) suffer largely from the “ I’m alright, Jack “ syndrome.

Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Feb 9 2022 22:51 utc | 60

@c1ue, #56:
We are apparently misreading each other in our postings on this subject matter. I wasn’t accusing you of saying anything detrimental to China in my #26. I was merely using a quote from your posting to make the point that when pro-Russia commenters question China’s sincerity in the alliance, they are ignoring some crucial Chinese perspectives, such as, for example, the need to state the rights and wrongs on the China-India conflict, or as you seem also to agree, the difficulties and illogicality of sending troops to Syria. In general, I’ve found I agree with your viewpoints in most cases.
India has a pathological hatred against China after the 1962 War. I don’t really care who they ally with, the progress of history is currently showing their whims and wishes will get nowhere whoever they ally with. In 1962, it was a rare and strange occasion that both USSR and USA were supporting India in the war, in arms and in financial matters. Neither dared to send soldiers (not even advisors) due to the formidable location, and China’s demonstrated ability to engage in ground conflicts. Today, the disparity between the two sides are even more exaggerated then 60 years ago. India can recruit all of Europe and Americas and Central Asia and South Asia and anyone else in the Solar system, the outcome will still be lopsided in their disfavor if they choose to take on China again. So, do I want India to ally with USA against China? Frankly, I don’t really care. Just IMHO.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Feb 9 2022 23:01 utc | 62

@ uncle tungsten
| Feb 9 2022 22:12 utc | 51

The French president’s visit to Moscow and Ukraine comes less than three months before a presidential election at home. His political advisers see a potential electoral dividend, although Macron has yet to announce whether he will run.
“For the president, it’s an opportunity to show his leadership in Europe. That he is above the fray,” one French government source said.

First of all, Macron must go for re-election in 2 months. And its first 5 years were an military, diplomatic, economic, financial, social and health disaster.
Macron urgently needs an appearance of European and international success.
Putin understood very well and to braided praise, while showing visible distance. But no one received Macron when he arrived at the airport or the Kremlin. His arrival through the back door and his surprise when Putin invited him to sit at the other end of the world biggest table are signals to be decoded.
Putin devoted 6 hours to Macron which is huge.
Now Macron knows what he needs to do to get a handshake photo with Putin.
This is what he needs to launch his re-election campaign and sweep away all of his competitors, none of whom are a political leader of importance or even with international experience. And it must also block NATO.
Kremlin Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov denied that a deal of any kind had been formalized at the summit.
“[…] France is a member of NATO, but it is not the leader there – the leadership belongs to a completely different country in the bloc. So what kind of deals can we talk about here?”

What Russia is waiting for from him is Cristal clear
https://tass.com/politics/1399837

And Tuesday in Kiyv, Macron find the escape door for all of the NATO Team
“Within the coming days and weeks we must move forward along this double track. Firstly, strict compliance with the Minsk agreements within the Normandy quartet. Secondly, a wide, demanding and innovative dialogue, which will enable us to create guarantees of stability and security on our continent and maintain security in the short term,” Macron concluded.
Next week it’s German Chancellor show. He needs Putin’s help too.

Posted by: La Bastille | Feb 9 2022 23:18 utc | 64

the funniest thing in the world is that the US cannot decide whether to vaccinate its troops. how many troops got vaxxed w/all kinds of shit for something that didn’t exist, namely Saddam’s WMD program?
what the anti-vaxing intellectual Anders Breiviks like Norwegian prove is that the war hysteria of the west, inter alia, is a cover up for their ongoing operation of murder by covid. China’s troops are vaxxed. So are Russia’s. But not the US. because freedom.
because if the US vaxxed its troops, then the populace would take the virus more seriously. no matter the cost to its military personnel, the USG cannot allow the populace to act according to the nature of the virus, rather than their need to shop and be slaves and stuff hostess ding dongs in their mouths.
Biden could crush the whole fascist stampede of rabid elephants, trucker convoys, and all the right wing noise and death machine simply by stating that the anti vaxxers are undermining US national security and are acting as traitors.
but he can’t do that. cuz that would scare people in a way that they cannot be controlled. unlike the phantoms about Russia and how much the US cares about the civil rights of China’s wiggers.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Feb 9 2022 23:22 utc | 66

@La Bastille, #64:
Perhaps Putin will meet with Scholz on a video hookup after Scholz arrives in Moskow?

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Feb 9 2022 23:29 utc | 68

Victor @ 67
Sounds vaguely like ” Some of my best friends are…… ” rationalizing.

Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Feb 9 2022 23:33 utc | 70

Posted by: retiredmecheng | Feb 9 2022 22:00 utc | 50
So a little addendum to my previous posts. For my fellow Canadians – I have a solution to this dispute. It is called “democracy”.
Trudeau was heavily criticized last year for calling supposedly an unnecessary election. Well then, surely, now is time for a repeat. Wouldn’t you agree? Just one caveat though, we all have to accept the result. We then use our trucks for hauling stuff and only for hauling stuff. We can campaign all we want, in whatever manner we want. We can even have you guys call yourselves the “Fzck Trudeau” party. And your slogan can be “Damn the constraints, Damn the government, Damn the science! I just wanna live happily everafter”.

Posted by: retiredmecheng | Feb 9 2022 23:37 utc | 72

Michael Hudson at Geopolitical Economy utoob channel. Fifteen minutes.

The thing USA wants is to prevent EU-Russia from mutual economic integration

There is much more on this channel and I call in irregularly and always get plenty from it. Take the time to watch this one.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 9 2022 23:42 utc | 74

Paul | Feb 9 2022 21:00 utc | 31
so the yellow vests are the protestors right?
what a joke. the idea that people are rebelling against gov’t efforts to stop covid is risible.
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i think the US plan for defeating China is for US troops to infect their troops with covid. what else could it be? cuz it’s going to be hilarious when the USM is too sick to even press the nuclear launch buttons.
despite the horror show to schools and the medical system, obliteration of the US military by covid will be nothing but an unimaginable boon to the world. much to be longed for.
I want to thank you antivaxxers for doing your part. keep those freedom convoys running! that’ll show Russia who can kick whose ass!

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Feb 9 2022 23:45 utc | 76

RE: AHB | Feb 9 2022 21:29 utc | 40
It is the hypocrisy and arbitrariness of neoconservative, neo-liberal, corporatist governments and media that p—es me off. I do not know about the truckers generally, except when it comes to mandates they got it right, as far as I am concerned.

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 9 2022 23:50 utc | 78

Troll traffic signifies the importance of the Freedom Convoy and its offshoots! Thanks Trolls for confirming our observations.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 9 2022 23:59 utc | 80

This Sputnik item deals with a point I raised in my article, although the terms are reversed, “‘A New Axis’: NYT Slams Russia, China for Not Acting Like US, Had Few Harsh Words for Hitler’s Rise”. As I noted, 145+ nations and organizations have signed onto China’s BRI which will merge with Russia’s EAEU, both of which promote the goals behind the UN Charter, its 2030 Sustainable Development Goals–and most importantly–the goals cited for waging WW2 known as the Four Freedoms that became the basis for the UN Charter, which now has 193 signatures. Those numbers tell a different tale–75% of the world’s nations are behind the actions and words stated by Russia and China in their 4 February Joint Declaration and the manifesto it contains.
Reality shows there’s only one current parallel to WW2’s Axis Powers–the Outlaw Anglo Empire, which consists of the Outlaw US Empire and it’s #1 lieutenant the UK, and the vast majority of its NATO Slaves, although it must be noted that the primary violator of the UN Charter is the Outlaw Anglo Empire. NATO Slaves must be aware that there’s no “following orders” defense, and they will hang along with the primary violators.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 10 2022 0:25 utc | 82

@Oriental Voice #62
Fair enough – as I said, I have never made any comments on the rights or wrongs of the China/India situation.
However, your view that India allying with the US is irrelevant, is wrong.
India has the boots on the ground which the US has not been willing to commit since Vietnam.
India also is positioned not just to be able to interdict maritime traffic, but is far closer to the overland routes into China from Europe than say, a US carrier in the Indian ocean.
Nor am I aware of any particular Chinese prowess in ground conflicts; Korea is the only example I am aware of where China came up against a peer or near peer military – and despite initial successes, it did not end well. I believe Mao’s son was among those killed in Korea during that conflict.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 10 2022 0:51 utc | 84

These are not vaccines. They are experimental drug treatments based on gene therapy technology. The use of the word “vaccine” was a marketing tool to persuade people to take the injections when they would have refused if they had known it was experimental gene therapy (see the speech of Stefan Oelrich of Bayer AG(at around 8.22 ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBmVwuv0Qc
The misnaming of the gene therapy treatments as vaccines was not challenged by the regulators charged with protecting the health and safety of the public. Regulatory bodies use a different protocol to test a gene therapy drug. It takes longer to establish if it is safe. What caused the lack of due diligence? Incompetence? Regulatory capture? Depraved indifference?
Posted by: cirsium | Feb 9 2022 21:46 utc | 45

Well those unqualified injections CANNOT possibly be called vaccines for it is only after having successfully proven to be such vaccines to the health scientific authorities that one can qualify for obeing called vaccine. These unqualified drugs benefit from emergency authorizations granted by government WITHOUT having provided the needed evidence to receive vaccine qualification. Remember that raw scientific data haven’t been released so no peer review allowed so far.
I don’t know how those ‘things’ should be called but certainly using the word ‘vaccine’ refering to them is clearly illegal and could end up being sued …

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Feb 10 2022 1:10 utc | 86

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 10 2022 0:54 utc | 85
Hmmm… sounds like you guys are badly in need of an echo chamber…. Shame…

Posted by: retiredmecheng | Feb 10 2022 1:19 utc | 88

@ William Haught: They have Trucks
The government itself selected the Truckers when it put them in a separate category to be eliminated by creating a special vaccine mandate for them.

Posted by: Webej | Feb 10 2022 1:40 utc | 90

@ Victor: Native Canadians
Apparently you have never heard of the Mercier bridge, when they shut off all commuter traffic to the city of Montreal for half the summer, with armed American ex-marines up in the super structure. It affected millions for months.

Posted by: Webej | Feb 10 2022 1:44 utc | 92

@ retiredmecheng | Feb 10 2022 0:31 utc | 83… where in canada do you live?? i didn’t like the coyne article, but some of the responses in the comment section were good.. i said it some time ago here at moa… covid and all related is a divisive topic… the truckers protest is another divisive topic… rather then others try to convince us of their position and validity of their position, it would be better to maybe let it go…

Posted by: james | Feb 10 2022 1:45 utc | 94

@ Sushi | Feb 10 2022 1:41 utc | 91.. thanks sushi and good health to you as well! i think you are right on trudeaus chances here.. the only caveat, is i don’t see any choices worth voting for!! it has been this way for me for a number of years now.. i used to vote ndp and vancouver island has been traditionally fairly strong ndp, but i switched to green a few elections ago and we got paul manly in this riding… unfortunately due the annamie paul fiasco, he didn’t make it this time… i have a hard time now with the whole political process and think it is seriously flawed.. maybe this comes with having lived over 60 years on the planet and seen how very little changes within politics, no matter who is elected… stay positive!

Posted by: james | Feb 10 2022 1:49 utc | 96

@ retiredmecheng | Feb 10 2022 1:50 utc | 97… thanks! be on good terms with everyone as much as that is possible.. i have been known to throw a hissy fit here at posters from time to time, but only when i am off my meds, lolol… i think circe got under my skin once or twice! cheers…

Posted by: james | Feb 10 2022 1:53 utc | 98

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 10 2022 1:45 utc | 93
LOL

Posted by: Sushi | Feb 10 2022 2:01 utc | 100