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February 17, 2022
Media Studies – (‘Russian Invasion’ Scam)

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The Hill @thehill – 9:32 PM · Feb 3, 2022

Reporter: “It’s an action that you say they have taken, but you have shown no evidence to confirm that. […] This is like – crisis actors? Really? This is like Alex Jones territory you’re getting into now.”

Must-watch exchange between @APDiploWriter Matt Lee and @StateDeptSpox.
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> The U.S. intelligence briefing included specific reference to next Wednesday, February 16, as a start date for the ground invasion, three officials — based in Washington, London and Ukraine — told POLITICO. <

> The prospect of a Russian invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 16 was always overhyped. The time frame to really keep an eye on is what happens shortly after Feb. 20. <

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> After decades of getting schooled in information warfare by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, the United States is trying to beat the master at his own game.

Biden administration officials said they had a narrower and more realistic goal: They want to make it more difficult for Mr. Putin to justify an invasion with lies, undercutting his standing on the global stage and building support for a tougher response.

Intelligence agencies, prodded by the White House, have declassified information, which in turn has been briefed to Congress, shared with reporters and discussed by Pentagon and State Department spokesmen.

For all the disclosures, the Biden administration has provided no evidence of the disinformation plots they say they have uncovered. <

Julia Ioffe @juliaioffe – 13:56 UTC · Feb 16, 2022

With all the alarm about a Russian invasion of Ukraine, it's important to keep in mind that the alarm itself, and using the U.S. media to keep the alarm ringing, is part of the Biden admin's strategy to keep pressure on the Kremlin. It IS the strategy.
Putin on the Brink… of What, Exactly?

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Melinda Haring @melindaharing – 19:25 UTC · Feb 11, 2022

Putin has big weekend plans in Ukraine: 1) he's going to cut power and heat, knock out Ukrainian navy and air force, kill general staff and hit them with cyber attack; 2) then install pro-Russian president and 3) resort to full-scale military invasion if Ukraine doesn't give in

Melinda Haring @melindaharing – 13:04 UTC · Feb 14, 2022

Emotions running high and I let them get the better of me. I still expect action this week but Putin may drag this out. We still don't know. Bottom line is that I recognize that I need to be more judicious.

Melinda Haring @melindaharing – 12:40 UTC · Feb 15, 2022

We’ve been so focused on Russian troops and tanks that we missed Moscow’s strategy: strangle Ukraine’s economy and sap the resolve of its people.
The West Is Falling for Putin’s Real Play in Ukraine

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> [Halyna] Yanchenko is a Deputy Head in Ukraine’s “Servant of the People” political faction, which has a majority in parliament and was founded by current president Volodymyr Zelensky.

“In our opinion, all these crazy things going on in American media and world media — all these appeals to diplomats and business to pack their bags and leave Ukraine immediately — it really harms Ukrainian economy,” she said. “I’m stopping myself from starting using curse words, because all these panics are costing us a lot of money. A lot of money to actually keep, you know, business and services circulating in Ukraine. Because that’s the worst that can happen now.”

According to Yanchenko, the risk of Russian invasion is “minimal… it’s not that much.” Whereas the economy cratering thanks in large part to US agitation is observably happening, right now. “So if we are talking about military situation,” she said, “we are talking only about possible risks — it might happen or it might not happen — but if we are talking about economic consequences, the worst thing already happened. And now we have to react to this and do something in order to keep the state alive.”

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> I’m watching it now… the soviet nationwide anthem simply began enjoying on the fucking sq.’s audio system. I am not even kidding. … <
Reuters Live – View of Maidan square in Kyiv

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> After days marked by flickers of hope that the conflict might be resolved peacefully, a senior American official, who refused to be quoted by name, told reporters that far from winding down its deployment, Moscow had added more than 7,000 combatants. Western allies expressed similar doubts about the Russian claims.

To some extent, the battle between the West and Moscow over Ukraine has been one of signaling. To keep international pressure on Russia high, the United States has repeatedly declared that an invasion was near, even imminent. Moscow, in turn, has repeatedly accused Washington of exaggerating the threat.

Maria V. Zakharova, the Foreign Ministry’s often caustic spokeswoman, said she would appreciate U.S. and British news outlets publishing the schedules for Russia’s “invasions” in the coming year, because “I’d like to plan my vacation.” <

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> West's policies, as I am on record, are not conducted for the sake of development of own nations or of international relations. They are conducted for PR purposes only, as a means to an end of retaining political power for a variety of reasons ranging from desire to have it for the sake of it or for comfortable retirement paid in all kinds of cash and favors in exchange for proper political plays. <

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Each of the above chapters deserves its own write-up. But alas – so many lies, so little time …

Comments

Circe @ 23; b’s the decider on OT posts. As for me, I find them, for the most part, informative…
There are no limits today, on “bad mouthing” Russia, China, or any other nations that refuse to “suck up” to the U$A…

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 17 2022 18:14 utc | 101

Detailed and comprehensive, with a very solid foundation citing all previous treaties that concern the security architecture in Europe. A package, clearly laid out to secure all the parties involved, no cherry picking please. Looks like the team at the Russian FM skates with artistry.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 17 2022 18:23 utc | 102

@sean the leprechaun, Hmmm, I love Canadiana. Got some sources for that?
Thanks

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Feb 17 2022 18:31 utc | 103

The Russian FM site is back, a bit slow though. Reading the presser Lavrov – DiMagio, Italian FM. From the first question a howler by the Italian FM, some country does not qualify for NATO membership, whithout naming it, machine trans.
There is article 10 of the Washington Treaty (President Vladimir Putin spoke about it at a press conference with President E. Macron the other day). It supposedly says that any country (like Ukraine) can take and want to join NATO, and it will be necessary to recognize its right. But it says quite the opposite. The member countries of the alliance, by universal consent, on the basis of consensus, can (in English, “may”, that is, they can, or they may not) invite some country to join, if this country meets the criteria of this Organization and, most importantly, if this country adds security to the North Atlantic Alliance. It is quite clear what we are talking about. If we are guided by an objective situation and apply the 10th article as it is written, then it is quite clear what the answer will be. This is our position. We talked about it today.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 17 2022 18:41 utc | 104

Lavrov’s on fire.
I asked my Italian colleagues and other recipients of my letter not to hide behind a piece of paper, which was sent to me in response by Stoltenberg and J.Borrel. I didn’t address them. Neither NATO nor the European Union signed all the documents at the highest level in the OSCE. It is not necessary to try to violate with these pieces of paper the principle that requires everyone not to allow any organization’s attempts to dominate Europe. And they are doing exactly that.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 17 2022 18:54 utc | 105

A very important detail from Lavrov’s intro to the presser
Today we will send this letter to the American side. I warned you that we would make this letter public.
The translation does not have the original’s merit
Сегодня направим это письмо американской стороне. Я предупреждал, что мы придадим это письмо гласности.
Glasnost, that fantastic word forever imprinted in the western mind, when convenient of course.
As Brazilians say, “jogo bonito”, the beautiful game, ethics goes hand in hand with aesthetics, ugly stuff is anti ethical, usually.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 17 2022 19:18 utc | 106

The cyber war is taking down Russian and “pro-Russian” web sites. If a kinetic war starts, there will be a total news blackout on the web. Telegram is likely outside Western control. You can access it through an application or through a web interface. Both are adopted for use on smart phones.
I follow these Telegram channels:
In English:
https://t.me/IntelSlava/ (Intel Slava)
https://t.me/BellumActaNews/ (Bellum Acta – Intel, Urgent News and Archives)
https://t.me/The_Saker (The Saker)
In Russian:
https://t.me/WarLife/ (ВОЙНА – Россия Украина Донбасс)
https://t.me/infantmilitario/ (Милитарист)
https://t.me/voynareal/ (Реальная Война)

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Feb 17 2022 19:18 utc | 107

Posted by: Paco | Feb 17 2022 18:54 utc | 104
thank you Paco! Keep it up! or, as the Mexicans (peons) say ¡hórale!

Posted by: migueljose | Feb 17 2022 19:18 utc | 108

Down South 18

A bank run is happening in Canada that has forced 5(?) major banks to close their doors , temporarily, after the government threatened to freeze the bank accounts of anyone who supported the Truckers whilst mentioning that they have been keeping tabs on everyone donating to the Truckers.

The rightist National Post is headlining: “The ugly witch hunt for Freedom Convoy donors”. They did not use such language about Alberta’s investigation of environmental donors.

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 17 2022 19:19 utc | 109

@KM108. Actually the post is now left as JT just stepped so far right Pierre Poutine looks like a socialist

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Feb 17 2022 19:25 utc | 110

https://news.yahoo.com/
If there was ever any doubt about it, Yahoo news is a Deep State mouth piece. Objectivity and veracity are out the window. Just read the headlines, (Russia, Russia, Russia) and the full court press is on. I can’t entirely figure out the motives but they desperately want war now. It’s an abomination.

Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 17 2022 19:28 utc | 111

@Petri Krohn | Feb 17 2022 16:37 utc | 60
It is my understanding that there is a lot Russia could do to take the gloves off vs Kiev, since it is the #1 investor there. [Even though these days, it’s politically correct to do it via Dutch mailbox firms. :-)] Just if Sberbank were to stop offering services in Ukraine, it’d be a terrible blow to them. Moscow seems quite reluctant to take such steps, believing more in “business is business” than the West does.
These also mean that the invasion scare didn’t make much sense to me, because there are still much cheaper ways to pressure the Ukies. Except of course if one swallows the whole line of “restoring the USSR”.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 17 2022 19:30 utc | 112

@110–the propaganda blitz is every bit as overwhelming as the Iraq War propaganda. It’s worse because the war they are pushing for could very easily become World War 3.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 17 2022 19:36 utc | 113

How prescient, the U$A warns of a Russian false flag event in the Ukraine, and it materializes, like magic. Christ almighty, very reminiscent of the “gas attacks” in Syria, which, as it turns out were committed by U$ proxies.
ANYTHING to stop NS2….

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 17 2022 19:37 utc | 114

@ paco and migueljose – ¡Oralé güeyes!

Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 17 2022 19:37 utc | 115

Simplicius @77
I would like to but sites have been going dark. Naming a live site would only hasten its demise. By now any who care to look should be clear what is happening. Twelve to fourteen hours ago Ukraine began shelling Donetsk and Lugansk. Three hours ago OSCE specified that there had been 500 artillery rounds inbound. OSCE is hardly a neutral witness, reflexively sides with West. It is a bit different to hear (on video) those shells flying overhead than it would be to read it on the page. The talking heads on the ground are plainly scared. It is not the usual small mortar rounds, it is mostly 152mm howitzer.
It would seem Donetsk still does not have or does not know how to use counter-battery radar. Or perhaps they have been asked to hold their fire.
It is not that hard to get info. I am a complete klutz with anything digital. The primary thing is you have to go and look. This is an expert forum where most are wholly unwilling to go and look.
Russia’s patience here is astonishing. They know time is on their side.
Just saw a notice U.K. is sending troops and materiel to Estonia. Still think they are fighting WWII. If you don’t know the map, all of Estonia is in artillery range of Petersburg defenses w/o any need for moving or preparing anything. With opponents of that caliber, well, there are contenders and there are opponents.
Recently re-read my Grimmelshausen. What a treat.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 17 2022 19:40 utc | 116

Russia has officially stated in the recent past that in case of a military-technical response they will target those who are giving the orders.
I believe that this was repeated in person to Wallace, Milley and others with a list of where those targets are, who is there, name rank and serial number, etc., i.e. a detailed list.
Suddenly every foreign contingent training Ukro Orcs packs up and leaves overnight. Embassies clear out and the CIA starts destroying computers and flees to the other end of the country, ‘diplomatic’ missions say adios amigos! Fly by night was never so obvious.

Posted by: Spinworthy | Feb 17 2022 19:41 utc | 117

@Dr. George Oprisko (15) Regarding Alex Mercouris’s comment on the division of Ukraine, Alex was quite clear that this was pure conjecture on his part. He has no information that a formal separation of east and west is underway.

Posted by: Rob | Feb 17 2022 19:54 utc | 118

oldhippie 115
For quite a few years, Ukraine has been siting its artillery amongst residential building or better because donbass counter battery fire is very good. Some propaganda reports on a kindergarten getting hit. Perhaps just propaganda but also the ideal artillery site for Ukies.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 17 2022 19:54 utc | 119

Tannenhouser | 109

JT just stepped so far right Pierre Poutine looks like a socialist

Not many governments would allow such an occupation to go on indefinitely. The democratically elected government of Ukraine allowed it in 2014.

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 17 2022 19:58 utc | 120

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 17 2022 16:00 utc | 45
Wow, this is an exciting thread! I think, and hope, you are correct! No invasion required!!
I’ve kept in mind that Valentine’s Day for the west is the eve of the Meeting in the Temple feast when Dresden was firebombed and the only building left standing in its vicinity as far as the eye could see was the Orthodox cathedral – hesitated to bring that up when Scholtz was visiting, but I’m positive this was discussed – how could it not be? It was the Allies that did this dreadful thing to Dresden, Germany’s beautiful city.
War is hell.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 17 2022 19:59 utc | 121

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 17 2022 19:58 utc | 119
Trudeau could have ended the protest long before it arrived in Ottawa by following the science rather than the WEF globalists

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 17 2022 20:02 utc | 122

@juliania | Feb 17 2022 18:10 utc | 99
It’s not pretty but clarity is best. It’s so deep-seated in Russian intelligentsia (for what that term is worth): “These are just business negotiation tactics; it’s our fault anyway, we should just become a bit gayer and return Crimea and all will be fine.”
I’ve also seen it close-up with educated Ukies. My friends had seen documentaries what those animals had done to Iraq; then when literally the same people came to Kiev with cookies and smiles, they still handed them their home keys, mi casa es su casa apparently.
How to explain it? I’m not quick to believe in the demonic, but the superpower prestige indeed seems to have a hypnotizing effect, like Emperor Palpatine. Either way, reminders that a powerful enemy hates you and wants you dead should be a weekly PSA.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 17 2022 20:03 utc | 123

Keith @119
Quite a stretch to call a peaceful uprising to protest totalitarian overreach and the establishment of a two-tier medical apartheid society the same as the violent “demonstrators” on the Maidan, paid for per diem by outside forces.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 17 2022 20:06 utc | 124

Ma Laoshi 122
Wherever there is corruption, US thrives. If there is both corruption and internal division all the better.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 17 2022 20:11 utc | 125

An interesting day. Could Russia and China sense that this is their moment in history to cripple the American empire not just in Europe, but also West Asia? Militarily the Russians have the upper hand in Europe and in weaponry. Western sanctions would cripple Europe more than Russia. Solidarity cracks in the key NATO countries are everywhere.
Russia/China and its allies can control the Baltic, the Black Sea and the Straights of Hormuz. They can hold their own in the Pacific Rim. They can inflict economic misery to several US Vassal states and force the Americans to “put up or shut up.”
In particular, they can turn the heat up on Israel, which would make Israel turn the heat up on Congress and Zionist-for-life Joe Biden. The US is crippled by weak, aging and amateurish leadership.
Could a weak response or military debacle lead to their troops being cut off or expelled from some of those 800 bases around the world?
It may not happen overnight, but the more it goes, the more I think this is Russia (and China) finally starting the process of undoing the the tragedy of 1914 and expelling the UK-American empire from Europe, Asia and the Pacific.

Posted by: Disconnected | Feb 17 2022 20:23 utc | 126

I suggest that btl-ers treat ‘line islands’ as troll-junk and simply skip over his/her/their inputs unread, Nothing realworld there; just shit-stirring.
And Circe, please don’t be so unkind to hyenas: very loving and trustworthy creatures when hand-reared. It’s rather insulting to them to compare them to the DC Swamp-creatures.

Posted by: Rhisiart Gwilym | Feb 17 2022 20:26 utc | 127

Zelensky should have listened to Lavrov the other day then he would understand exactly why the OSCE were pulled out of Ukraine.

https://menafn.com/1103719221/Ukraine-Zelensky-informs-Michel-about-escalation-in-JFO-area
President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky informed President of the European Council Charles Michel about today’s provocative shelling by the Russian occupation forces in the Joint Forces Operation area.
“Had a phone conversation with European Council President Charles Michel in Mariupol. Informed about the security situation and today’s provocative shelling, in particular in Stanytsia Luhanska. Thanked for the initiative of the donors’ conference in support of Ukraine,” Zelensky posted on Twitter .
As the President’s Office informs , Zelensky reported a significant number of ceasefire violations by illegal armed formations, in particular, the shelling of a kindergarten in Stanytsia Luhanska this morning and called it a big provocation.
‘This situation has once again proven that the evacuation of OSCE representatives and diplomats from Ukraine is not appropriate. It is important that diplomats and the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission stay in Ukraine. Monitoring activities are extremely important. This is an additional deterrent,’ Zelensky stressed.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 17 2022 20:45 utc | 128

There are too many independent players involved. Much of the artillery is manned by mercs just because the Ukies have few skilled and sober soldiers. CIA is also operational.
Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 17 2022 15:36 utc | 37
Many wrong assumptions here. First, using artillery does not require high school diploma etc., and I have seen a video in which a patriotic Ukrainian journalist (i.e. a particularly dense individual) successfully activated a howitzer. Even using a computer to enter proper coordinates where to shoot is a rather simple task, nowadays even functionally illiterate people can type.
Second, one of the latest news from Poland is that two American troops got drunk, have fallen into a lake (not good in February) but were fished out by police and they are doing fine. Relying on sobriety of “mercs” is not necessarily a good bet. Population is jubilant that these troops are again aiding Polish military resisting any looming Belarussian or Russian invasion (the last bit was not reported, just my assumption).
Third, foreigners on the western side of Donbas trench lines are of two kinds. One type is itinerant jihadists, fascist wannabe revolutionaries etc., in other words, in terms of competence at par with conscripts. In both cases, the range of skills varies widely. The second type are troops delegated by the British, Canadian etc. to “train” the locals, and, apparently, this type was evacuated, “training” includes classes how to retreat.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 17 2022 20:46 utc | 129

And….What’s all this I hear about an M&M Russian Invasion?
Don’t we already have enough different kinds of brightly colored M&M’s without having another unnecessary foreign (red) color ..that would just confuse everybody as to which one was our very own American made one and which one was a “Russian” imposter.
Besides..if we let all of the other countries invade our domestic M&M supply, who knows what
kind of strange new color revolutions we’ll end up having to deal with and..well.. if they’ll even taste the same..
Errr..Jake..Jake..JAKE!
Huh?
That’s an “Imminent” Russian Invasion: NOT an M&M Russian Invasion.
Ohhh…alrighty then.
NEVERMIND!

Posted by: thewokendead | Feb 17 2022 20:56 utc | 130

@ 23 Circe @ 99 juliana
Agreed this is not oT at all. The situation with Valieva may well have been the real False Flag we were expecting. Just to read the American media and nearly all the US skaters quoted is a master class in self parody and pure vitriol, something the dog-eat-dog world f skating may be able to hide much f the time, but this time it’s n full display.
There’s a very good chance this whole doping saga was manufactured, or at least beefed up t what we saw. The Swedish lab should be sanctioned fr the unconscionable delay in delivering the results, which is inexplicable. When will the invitation be issued t open and test Sample B, BTW?
Where this is Not oT is the way the American/western media were baying from the very start about the Valieva case, calling for the Russian team to be excluded from their precious olympics, as if reading from the same playbook day in and day out. Just as they did with the famous Russian invasion. In truth, sports IS Russia’s soft underbelly and this doping case was blown up t hurt just the way it did.
Personally, seeing this silly olympics without an audience and the low ratings for NBC, we should rethink the whole concept of this way too commercial spectacle. Why does the world need this huge Carbon footprint? why not just regional competitions and world event championships?

Posted by: Merlin2 | Feb 17 2022 20:57 utc | 131

A macabre irony is that the US considers themselves protected by the seas that can easily be used to literally wipe them out from coast to coast.
Nature provides at least one opportunity to do so but the Russians have already made and publicized less geological means to do the same a few years ago.
Then afterwards maybe, just maybe, the Russians would target any remaining US locations if they show any signs of life.
That’s why “WWIII in Eastern Europe” won’t happen if Russia has any say in things.
It isn’t only “all about hypersonics”, none are needed for this.
Nobody sane sets fire to their front door to “win”, and Russia is very sane compared to the US.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 17 2022 20:59 utc | 132

Russian FM site inaccessible, hacked or truly overwhelmed by the fact that the reply to the US reply has been published? In any case Cassad has it in Russian.
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/7446905.html
Posted by: Paco | Feb 17 2022 17:27 utc | 82
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Response to response
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colonelcassad
February 17, 17:46
The Russian Foreign Ministry has published a written response to the American written response to Russian claims on security guarantees in Europe.
Response to response
On February 17, 2022, US Ambassador John Sullivan, invited to the Russian Foreign Ministry, was given the following reaction to the previously received American response on the Russian draft treaty between the Russian Federation and the United States of America on security guarantees.
TASS publishes the full text of the statement.
General characteristics
We state that the American side did not give a constructive response to the basic elements of the draft security guarantees agreement prepared by the Russian side with the United States. We are talking about the rejection of further expansion of NATO, the withdrawal of the “Bucharest formula” that “Ukraine and Georgia will become members of NATO”, and the refusal to create military bases on the territory of states that were previously part of the USSR and are not members of the alliance, including the use of their infrastructure for conducting any military activity, as well as the return of military capabilities, including shock, and NATO infrastructure to the state of 1997, when the Founding Act of Russia — NATO was signed. These provisions are of fundamental importance for the Russian Federation.
The package nature of Russian proposals has been ignored, from which “convenient” topics have been deliberately chosen, which, in turn, are “twisted” in the direction of creating advantages for the United States and its allies. This approach, as well as the accompanying rhetoric of American officials, reinforces reasonable doubts that Washington is really committed to correcting the situation in the field of Euro-security.
The growing military activity of the United States and NATO directly at the Russian borders is alarming, while our “red lines” and fundamental security interests, as well as Russia’s sovereign right to protect them, continue to be ignored. Ultimatum demands to withdraw troops from certain areas on Russian territory, accompanied by threats of tougher sanctions, are unacceptable and undermine the prospects of reaching real agreements.
In the absence of the readiness of the American side to agree on firm, legally binding guarantees of ensuring our security by the United States and its allies, Russia will be forced to respond, including through the implementation of military-technical measures.
In Ukraine
There is no “Russian invasion” of Ukraine, as the United States and its allies have been officially declaring since last autumn, and there are no plans, therefore, statements about “Russia’s responsibility for escalation” cannot be regarded otherwise than as an attempt to exert pressure and devalue Russia’s proposals for security guarantees.
The mention in this context of Russian obligations under the Budapest Memorandum of 1994 has nothing to do with the internal Ukrainian conflict and does not apply to the circumstances resulting from the actions of internal factors there. The loss of territorial integrity by the Ukrainian state is the result of the processes that took place inside it.
The accusations of Russia contained in the American response that it “occupied Crimea” also do not stand up to any criticism. In 2014, a coup took place in Kiev, the initiators of which, with the support of the United States and their allies, set a course for the creation of a nationalist state that infringes on the rights of the Russian and Russian-speaking population, as well as other “non-titular” ethnic groups. It is not surprising that in such a situation, Crimeans voted for reunification with Russia. The decision of the people of Crimea and Sevastopol to return to the Russian Federation was made by free expression of will in the exercise of the right to self-determination enshrined in the UN Charter. Force or threat of force was not used. The question of Crimea’s ownership is closed.
If Ukraine is accepted into NATO, there will be a real threat that the regime in Kiev will try to “return” Crimea by force, dragging the United States and its allies, in accordance with Article 5 of the Washington Treaty, into a direct armed conflict with Russia with all the ensuing consequences.
The thesis repeated in the US response that Russia allegedly “ignited the conflict in the Donbas” is untenable. Its reasons are purely intra-Ukrainian in nature. The settlement is possible only through the implementation of the Minsk agreements and a set of measures, the priority and responsibility for the implementation of which are clearly spelled out and unanimously confirmed by UN Security Council resolution 2202, including the United States, France and the United Kingdom. In paragraph 2 of this resolution, Kiev, Donetsk and Lugansk are named as parties. None of these documents mention Russia’s responsibility for the conflict in the Donbas. Russia, together with the OSCE, plays the role of mediator in the main negotiating format – the contact group – and together with Berlin and Paris – in the “Normandy format”, which formulates recommendations to the parties to the conflict and monitors their implementation.
To de-escalate the situation around Ukraine, it is fundamentally important to take the following steps. This is forcing Kiev to implement a set of measures, stopping the supply of weapons to Ukraine, withdrawing all Western advisers and instructors from there, the refusal of NATO countries from any joint exercises with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the withdrawal of all foreign weapons previously supplied to Kiev outside Ukrainian territory.
In this regard, we draw attention to the fact that Russian President Vladimir Putin, at a press conference following talks in Moscow with French President Emmanuel Macron on February 7, 2022, stressed that we are open to dialogue and urge “to think about stable security conditions for everyone, equal for all participants in international life.”
Force configuration
We note that in their response to the Russian proposals, the United States insists that progress in improving the situation in the field of European security “can only be achieved in terms of de-escalation in relation to Russia’s threatening actions directed against Ukraine,” which, as we understand, implies the requirement to withdraw Russian troops from the borders of Ukraine. At the same time, the United States is ready to talk only about “mutual obligations … to refrain from deploying permanent-based forces with combat missions on the territory of Ukraine” and “consider discussing the problem of conventional armed forces.” For the rest, the American side remains silent about our proposals contained in paragraphs 2 of Article 4 and paragraph 1 of Article 5 of the draft bilateral treaty and declares that “the current configuration of the US and NATO forces is limited, proportional and fully complies with the obligations under the NATO-Russia Founding Act.”
We proceed from the fact that the deployment of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on its territory does not and cannot affect the fundamental interests of the United States. We would like to remind you that there are no our forces on the territory of Ukraine.
At the same time, the United States and its allies were advancing their military infrastructure to the east, deploying contingents in the territories of new members. They circumvented the limitations of the CFE Treaty and interpreted very loosely the provisions of the Russia—NATO Founding Act on the rejection of “additional permanent deployment of substantial combat forces.” The situation that has developed as a result of these actions is unacceptable. We insist on the withdrawal of all US armed forces and weapons stationed in CEE, SEE and the Baltic States. We are convinced that there are quite enough national potentials in these zones. We are ready to discuss this topic on the basis of art. 4 and 5 of the Russian draft agreement.
The principle of indivisibility of security
We did not see any evidence in the US response that the American side is fully committed to observing the immutable principle of indivisibility of security. The general statements about the consideration of this postulate by the American side are in direct contradiction with Washington’s unwillingness to abandon a counterproductive and destabilizing course to create advantages for itself and its allies at the expense of Russia’s security interests. This is precisely what is happening as a result of the unrestrained implementation by the North Atlantic Alliance, with the leading role of the United States, of the policy of unlimited geostrategic and military development of the post-Soviet space, including the territory of Ukraine, which is particularly sensitive for us. All this is happening directly on the Russian borders. Thus, our “red lines” and fundamental security interests are ignored, and Russia’s inalienable right to ensure them is rejected. For us, of course, this is unacceptable.
Additionally, we remind you that this principle is enshrined in the preamble of the Treaty between the Russian Federation and the United States of America on Measures for Further Reduction and Limitation of Strategic Offensive Arms of 2011, the extension of which for five years without any exceptions was agreed by the parties in February last year, as well as in a number of OSCE and Russia—NATO basic documents adopted at the highest level: in the preamble of the Helsinki Final Act of 1975, in the Charter of Paris for a New Europe of 1990, the Founding Act of Russia — NATO of 1997, the Istanbul Charter for European Security of the OSCE of 1999, the Rome Declaration of Russia-NATO of 2002 and the Astana Declaration of the OSCE Summit of 2010.
We note that the response received mentions Washington’s commitment to the concept of indivisibility of security. But in the text, it boils down to the right of states “to freely choose or change ways to ensure their security, including union treaties.” This freedom is not absolute and is only half of the well-known formula fixed in the Charter of European Security. Its second part requires that, when exercising this right, not “… strengthen one’s security at the expense of the security of other States.” We cannot consider the letter received from NATO dated February 10, 2022 as a response to the message sent by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov on January 28, 2022 to US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken on this issue. We asked for an answer in a national capacity.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Feb 17 2022 21:03 utc | 133

I clean forgot:
one could take Spinworthy (Feb 17 2022 19:41 utc | 116) and add a few other bits discussed in other threads and end up with a paperback novel, it might even be a good read, maybe even mostly true or as they say “based on a true story” 🙂

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 17 2022 21:04 utc | 134

We may jumped the shark on false flags. The nursery that was shelled has been held by government forces. Accusations that the rebels struck in a false flag don’t hold up since it would have to been hit by government artillery in that case. They might be going into the false false flag realm.

Posted by: Les | Feb 17 2022 21:20 utc | 135

here we go again – we’re back to: sometime soon; maybe tomorrow; it could happen any day; it might be within the next few days; Putin has big plans pending; it’s definitely a coming attraction at your Pro-War Cineplex; it’s almost slam dunk assured the Russians are coming, it might be within the next week; within the next several days seems likely
or even…… only The Shadow knows for sure
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/17/politics/joe-biden-russia/index.html
Biden: ‘Every indication’ is that Russia will attack Ukraine ‘within the next several days’
“President Joe Biden warned Thursday morning a Russian attack on Ukraine could begin in the coming days, casting a new incursion into the country as all but certain and warning Moscow could stage events in the lead-up to generate a pretext for war.
It was the latest sign of mistrust from the West at President Vladimir Putin’s claims he is withdrawing troops and open to diplomacy. Biden, while maintaining there was a “diplomatic path” that avoids conflict, nevertheless used stark language to predict imminent violence.
“It’s very high,” Biden said when asked by CNN’s Jeremy Diamond how high the threat level is for a Russian invasion of Ukraine.
“It’s very high because they have not moved any of their troops out,” he continued, speaking on the White House South Lawn….”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 17 2022 21:23 utc | 136

The German site Krass & Koncrete is reporting on the real invasion by UK, Poland and Ukraine. This report peeks into the divisions within the EU and the dirty tricks from the UKUSA.
UK Poland, the baltic states are creating side alliances within NATO. What a surprise, the old UK divide and destroy trick.
Translate needed.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 17 2022 21:24 utc | 137

@13, Yup, facts and legalism are a bastard to fight.

Posted by: Lonkal | Feb 17 2022 21:29 utc | 138

Posted by: Merlin2 | Feb 17 2022 20:57 utc | 130
Thank you, Merlin2. I’d class the Olympic Games concept along with the UN – it’s a good concept that has been corrupted most definitely while being considered by athletes a special occasion in motivating desire for achievement. So, to me, if it can be established purely for such goals, nations coming together in friendship, that is the ideal, and we should keep our ideals.
I thought China’s theme of childhood in the opening presentation intended that new orientation – remember all those toddlers on snowboards and tiny skis in one film clip, and then not the huge cauldron ablaze with the lighting by the torch, but the torch itself a tiny candle held by two athletes, rising into a fragile snowflake star. That was beautiful, I thought.
[Apologies: that was definitely OT!]

Posted by: juliania | Feb 17 2022 21:34 utc | 139

@Greg Galloway | Feb 17 2022 21:03 utc | 132
Thank you for that. Very serious.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 17 2022 21:35 utc | 140

Les 134
Judging by that blackhawk evac helicopter and the slight delay in kicking things off, I suspect the team to create a false flag to go with the propaganda was busted – literally. Russian intel and special forces are very good. Pulling OSCE out of Ukraine meant it was inevitable that full on fighting would recommence on the Donbas frontline. US/UK have now had time to set up another team for the false flag if that is what was required. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next few days.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 17 2022 21:42 utc | 141

Paco–
Thanks for your numerous contributions, particularly the link to Cassad! I had no trouble accessing Russia’s Foreign Ministry’s main Russian language website and found the primary document here. It’s a long document and will take time to parse, which I’ll likely turn into another article as I’ve done since the inception of this drama.
As for the evidence b compiled, I say Well Done. There’re some rather curious admissions within the 12 Feb NY Times item linked above: Putin’s the “information” “master” and has “global standing” that must be “undercut” followed by the projection of “lying Moscow” and note that zero evidence has been provided–yet again. Much of that rhetoric is 100% opposite of the Russiagate Narrative.
In this current match, I see Putin fencing, his epee and superior physical abilities forcing Biden into a desperate defensive stand as he doesn’t have much more room before he’s forced to retreat off the mat and forfeit. The funniest aspect of this is the Outlaw US Empire’s efforts being defeated by the protests made by its erstwhile puppet and other Ukrainians that back Putin’s statements. Clearly, Ukrainians refuse to be ground into hamburger to feed the rapacious appetites of the American Parasites. IMO, many are thinking of the fraternal words addressed to them on several occasions by Putin and senior members of his administration and wondering which is the genuine enemy.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 17 2022 21:57 utc | 142

advice from chuck d:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9vQaVIoEjOM

Posted by: Rae | Feb 17 2022 22:01 utc | 143

Just to add another bit, consider this account of a ukrainian dissident revealing how US, UK, and French profited from war hysteria (translator from German needed):
Title is “Profitable War Hysteria over Ukraine”.
https://www.neulandrebellen.de/2022/02/profitable-kriegshysterie-um-die-ukraine/

Posted by: aquadraht | Feb 17 2022 22:03 utc | 144

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Feb 17 2022 21:03 utc | 132
Thank you, Greg Galloway, for your timely post! I will get back on topic by saying that I take that nugget from Norwegian’s earlier statement “No invasion required” to mean that Russia still wants the resolution to be in Minsk terms – that Ukraine will follow Minsk agreed protocols. That’s the peaceful outcome that seems at this point more than possible; much as through the coup that occurred violently and violent confrontation by those insurgents in Kiev, Crimea itself was able to repel its invaders and legitimately appeal to join the Russian Federation.
Ukraine has that yet to do – and maybe there will be a split, which would be a good thing it seems to me. Then the two sides of Ukraine would be ‘buffers’ to each of the other nations bordering them – which simply carries forward the meaning of the namess, East Ukraine and West Ukraine.
(Or let them be ‘Old Ukraine’ and ‘New Ukraine’ maybe.)
😉

Posted by: juliania | Feb 17 2022 22:08 utc | 145

@Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 17 2022 21:04 utc | 133
I guess the Runny Burger never speculates on this site. Where to begin.
Just read your own posts and you’ll see I could say the same w/ respect to your ‘analyses’.
I’m well aware that my opinion may be just that, ergo…”I believe…”
something you disagree with?
Discuss the comment if it displeases you. I’ve read enough of your word salad proclamations for a while. Your comment doesn’t surprise me.

Posted by: Spinworthy | Feb 17 2022 22:17 utc | 146

Norwegian #45

Zelensky is still in Kiev, so that means the US embassy does not have direct access to the president anymore. I seems to me Ukraine is being split up as we speak. The Donbass republics can possibly expect to include everything east of Dniepr soon? No invasion required.

Thank you but I see it as all part of act-1 scene-2. Kiev is not really defensible being just a skip away from the Belarus border. Drama is needed to escalate the hysteria reporting points and the fact that the US embassy went so far as to hammer their computers is just poor performance. Just hire an IT geek to remove the drives and dump the cases would be enough and is likely a faster, safer process. But its the USA embassy so all exits need to be dramatic. The sad part is that the chopper on the roof has been cheapened to a rubbish skip in the parking lot. Hollywood reruns suck.
Perhaps the gross Ukranian election rig could really only get Zelensky and his deputies up for one term or so and then a true believer (in Ukranian terms) would be elected to unite the regions. But my guess is that the western state accommodating the Galicia SS crew etc will secede with dreams of Lichtenstein in their fevered brains. If that is the case then the retreat to Lviv would be understandable.
The west will go to great lengths to defer the next Ukranian election and so will the Galician gang of thieves and war criminals. The entire Zelensky farce is fracturing as is the entire Biden farce and all they have left is the splitting of Ukraine under the limp swastika flag of fascist Galicia.
That’s precisely what entrist parasites like Nuland, Jacob Sullivan, Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman have done to and through Washington.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 17 2022 22:26 utc | 147

I highly suggest reading Pepe Escobar’s latest, “War Inc. Throws an Invasion Party and No One Shows Up”. Pepe, echoing one of the oft-stated reasons for the charade:
“The Dem combo remote-controlling the senile President of the United States by earpiece/teleprompter was never accused of being the brightest bulbs in the room – any room.
“That explains why one of their own, Nancy Pelosi, on ABC News, gave the whole Russian ‘invasion’ game away two – or three – days, depending on their math, before the ‘canceled’ non-event.
“First she said, ‘If we were not threatening the sanctions and the rest, it would guarantee that Putin would invade.’ And then the clincher:
“’If Russia doesn’t invade, it’s not that he never intended to. It’s just that the sanctions worked.’”
“Here, fully unveiled, is the whole Dem ‘strategy’: a dubiously effective foreign policy ‘victory’ which will melt away months ahead of the inevitable debacle at the US midterms.”
Pepe uses the sub expulsion to segue to the following:
“Of course, this should be interpreted for what it is: one more graphic illustration that the ‘indispensable nation’ has lost its maritime invulnerability. Certainly to Russia. And sooner rather than later, also to China.
“And that is a direct consequence of the dire state of the US defense industry, Martyanov’s key area of study, and exemplified by the latest report [Links in original] by the National Defense Industrial Association (NDIA).”
Yes, that study deserves study! Pepe’s summation:
“Key areas such as space, hypersonics and cyber are down. In parallel, there’s an ‘increase’ in three interconnected areas: AI, fully networked C3 and microelectronics. This would suggest the same old American obsession, since Rumsfeld, with deploying in a ‘smart battlefield’.
“The key takeaway may be the increase in biotechnology. Because that would point to a desperate Empire – already outclassed by Russia and soon neutralized by China – resorting to biowarfare. It’s no wonder the landmark February 4 Russia-China joint statement pointedly refers to the danger of US bioweapon labs.”
There’s more, even some humor made at the Outlaw US Empire’s expense.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 17 2022 22:31 utc | 148

Piotr Berman @ 128
It would be three years back I was riding my bicycle past Fort Sheridan and saw a group of National Guard training with mortars. Somewhat confident the shells were dummies and the system may have been disabled in other ways.The mortars were pointed directly at me and quite a few other members of the public. My confidence in these yahoos is distinctly low.
Yes, the armed men present in the Ukrainian military are flotsam and jetsam from everywhere. Recall the size of the forces present in Ukraine in WWII. A bit larger than at present. Only those with inability to tie their own shoelaces manage to get themselves conscripted. If you believe press releases men from 14 to 60 are conscripted and so are pregnant women. Managing or ‘leading’ the rabble is non-possible.
Yes, soldiers are known for getting drunk.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 17 2022 22:32 utc | 149

RE: Rae
I wonder how many pathological Americastanis would even realize Peter Garrett is being sarcastic here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks7RrRFd-20 ? Applies to the U.S. far more than even Australia.
Also, there are a lot of videos were Michael Franti weighs in too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA8p_BV7uD8
More applicable than back in the mid ’80swhen it became a big hit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc71KZG87X4
As Chris Geo points out, we’re in a lot of trouble https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq53CY3-l8s as Obeezy’s former sidekick continues where he and the Orange Clown left off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYgUIQubMxk
You do not have to be wise or intelligent, let alone both, to see that only robbers, barons, and bankers are going to benefit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A06hQKpfuE

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 17 2022 22:39 utc | 150

Rae 142 in above

Posted by: William Haught | Feb 17 2022 22:40 utc | 151

Thanks to the Saker site for posting Ambassador Zhang Jun’s remarks at the UN discussing the Ukraine situation in the SC:
“…China believes that the effort to resolve the Ukraine issue must after all go back to the starting point, that is, the implementation of the Minsk agreements. We hope that all parties concerned will take a constructive attitude, resolve through dialogue and consultation whatever differences that may arise in the implementation of the agreements, and draw up a roadmap and timetable to implement the Minsk agreements to the letter without delay, so as to pave the way for a political solution to the Ukraine crisis…”
His entire speech is short, worth note as he mentions the importance of national security, Russia’s recent meetings with Germany and France.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 17 2022 22:45 utc | 152

FJB says, “in the next several days”, an attack is imminent.
So, that means we gets to has MORE Russian Invasion Day celebrations?
I’m gonna need more tri tip and fuel for my smoker.
Cuz I’m gonna be smoking meats and drinking, every single day that there isn’t an invasion,
Until my wife yells at me.
Thanks FJB?

Posted by: Cadence Calls | Feb 17 2022 23:11 utc | 153

Norwegian @ 45, Uncle Tungsten @ 146:
I may be reading too much into the evacuation of Western embassies and their various hangers-on to Lvov / Lviv but it seems to me that a Balkanisation process has started and this process offers gaming opportunities for Western intel agencies, depending on how the overall situation develops over time.
It certainly does look as if Ukraine is being broken up into mini-states along past historical lines with the northwest areas (Galicia, Volhynia: these areas historically part of Poland / Lithuania Commonwealth, then Austro-Hungarian empire, then post-WW1 Poland lasting to 1939) coming under Polish influence and economic colonisation, the Donbass region leaning towards Russia, and the areas in-between (including key cities like Kiev and Odessa) becoming a weak and unstable buffer region itself liable to break-up over time.
Russia is likely to leave those areas in central and southern Ukraine alone – the Russians know that the West wants to inflict the same war inflicted on the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s on them and they will not fall into the same trap. So central / southern Ukraine will be the responsibility of the EU and NATO to pick up and defend if those organisations can. If on the other hand the people in those areas want to join the Russian Federation or any economic and/or defence alliances associated with Russia, China and the BRI project, they will have to line up with other nations wanting to be on board – they cannot assume that because they were part of the Soviet Union in the past, they can expect preferential treatment.

Posted by: Jen | Feb 17 2022 23:14 utc | 154

Hm, maybe we should watch out for Galicia breaking away now, instead of the Donbas? That would of course mean that Vicky Nuland and Chrissy Freeland would fight it out over who gets to be Queen of Galicia. Whatever the result of that fight might be, I’m sure the Vindman twins will be only too happy to become the future Queen’s gimp.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Feb 17 2022 23:15 utc | 155

All the good script writers left Hollywood and moved to DC.
The stories are just as good but the pay is better.

Posted by: Rabbit | Feb 17 2022 23:16 utc | 156

US and it’s vassals have moved a lot more troops and equipment into the countries surrounding Russia and Belarus in the couple of days since the initial ‘invasion’ flopped. An interesting sentence in this AFP piece is the small separate group getting into blackhawk helicopters. This is close to the Poland Ukraine border where a black hawk evac helicopter was used to get unknown number of people in unknown condition out on what was booked in as invasion day.
This article is a day old.

https://www.bukedde.co.ug/world/127245/us-troop-reinforcements-arrive-near-poland-uk
Dozens of US paratroopers landed at a Polish airport near the Ukrainian border on Wednesday as part of a deployment of several thousand to bolster NATO’s eastern flank amid tensions with Russia.
AFP reporters saw the soldiers leaving a Boeing C-17 military transport plane and boarding buses at Rzeszow Airport, located around 100 kilometres (62 miles) from the border with Ukraine.
Another group of soldiers, around a dozen, boarded two Black Hawk helicopters which then took off.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 17 2022 23:19 utc | 157

>>>>>: DunGroanin | Feb 17 2022 12:07 utc | 4

And there is a crew of the Russian jet to avenge still.

Nah, that was the caliph not US. More likely at some point a US base in eastern Syria somewhere on the east bank of the Euphrates will be hit by artillery fire, accidental of course.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Feb 17 2022 23:24 utc | 158

Posted by: migueljose | Feb 17 2022 19:18 utc | 107
True enough, but the actual saying is ‘¡Órale! ‘ (no “h”), as in ¡Órale carnal! There are also the equivalents “ándale” and “épale”…

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 17 2022 23:25 utc | 159

Jen
That is simlilar to what I was a split could be if it was to occur, but I was looking More at the Dneiper as the new east west border anbd the areas that were Crimean Khanate and Ottoman empire going to Russia as they are very much ethnic Russian. Something that can be seen clearly on the pre 2014/15 voting and language maps.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 17 2022 23:25 utc | 160

The writer isn’t Hudson but does a credible job in saying the reason behind the Outlaw US Empire’s provoking Russia over Ukraine is its success at dedollarization:
“Any nation that does not abide by Washington’s edicts and refuses to play the dollar game is met with a color revolution, a coup, a false flag or brute military force. Washington knows that if more and more of those dollars held in foreign reserves become superfluous, they will make their way back to the US to compound inflationary pressures there. This is the main reason, for example, why Washington is so vehemently against the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline: because the Russians and the Germans together will determine the pricing mechanism, not Washington.
“The nations of the world should have the sovereign right to choose which currency they choose to trade in and not be forced, at the barrel of a US gun, to use the US dollar.
“This is the real reason Washington is hell-bent on drawing Russian forces into Ukraine. Washington must attempt, by any means possible, to contain Russia and then to try to force her into subjugation, i.e. full and total acceptance of US dollar hegemony upon her.”
Unfortunately, I have issues with this reasoning. Russia is better insulated than any other nation from Outlaw US Empire financial hegemony. Second, Russia’s use of the sanctions as motivation for autarky is a smashing success and helped its exports making Russia even harder to contain. Third, Russia enjoys military superiority over the Empire. Fourth, Russia’s tied into the burgeoning Eurasian trade space in ways the Empire has no means of interdicting. Yes, Dollar Hegemony is waning and will end, but returning Russia to the 1990s will never happen. IMO, the author’s key point is this:
“Ironically, America’s growing use of severe sanctions against countries it doesn’t like, such as China and Russia, has fueled this trend, as countries seek new ways of financing trade without Washington having the ability to seize their money….
“The United States cannot simply launch a military strike against the Russian Federation as it did in Iraq and many other nations that rejected dollar hegemony. Russia now has the power to prevent the proliferation of the US dollar. To return to the sponge analogy: Russia is reducing the size of the sponge. This leaves the US government with a smaller and smaller number of countries to export dollar inflation to. The smaller the sponge becomes, the more desperate US foreign policy becomes, as US leaders try by all means to preserve their grip on world power.” [My Emphasis]
The combined overflowing sponge and QE is what’s fueling domestic and international inflation. If commodities and consumer goods weren’t priced in dollars, inflation would be much less. The 1%’s focus on enriching themselves has killed their golden goose and are now hysteric, so they lash out in all directions except at themselves.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 17 2022 23:31 utc | 161

Spinworthy I meant it as praise. I was suggesting combining the content of your post with that written by others and myself about the recent helicopter incident.
As speculation of course.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 18 2022 0:03 utc | 162

@Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 18 2022 0:03 utc | 161
If that’s the case, then my error in responding as I did.
I’m not of the generation that grew up with “:)” and perhaps missed the nuanced punctuation! 😉

Posted by: Spinworthy | Feb 18 2022 0:25 utc | 163

I see that RT in its article on the document’s key outtakes confirms my assumption that this is an edited version of the draft document Lavrov and Putin discussed on Valentine’s Day. Of the outtakes, a few I see as paramount:
One, Minsk Rules all, and Kiev is the actor that must perform, not Russia.
Two, “Moscow says Crimea case ‘closed’
“Russia did not ‘occupy’ Ukrainian territory in 2014, the MFA insisted, arguing that ‘the loss of territorial integrity by the Ukrainian government is the result of internal processes in that country,’ and, specifically, pointing to the coup d’etat backed by the US and its allies, ‘whose perpetrators embarked on building a nationalist state infringing on the rights of ethnic Russians and Russian-speaking people, as well as other nationalities.'” [My Emphasis]
The grounds for the current Genocidal conditions within Donbass it refrains from saying.
Third, By “expand[ing] their military infrastructure eastward,” the Outlaw US Empire and NATO have and are “violating both the 1990 Treaty on Conventional Forces in Europe (CFE) and the 1997 Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security between Russia and NATO.” The direct result is that Moscow demands the withdrawal “of all US armed forces and weapons deployed in Central and Eastern Europe, Southeastern Europe, and the Baltics” since those are what violate the treaties.
Fourth, NATO’s Open Door policy “violates the commitments NATO made in June 1991, to not endanger legitimate interests of other states or create new lines of division in Europe.” It also violates “the principle of indivisibility of security which the US committed to under the treaties that established the Organization for European Security Cooperation.”
Fifth, “Moscow wants indivisible security for all, not just NATO.”
Sixth, “Russia wants NATO to stop putting nukes in Europe … in violation of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.” [My Emphasis]
Seventh, The longstanding gross violation of the relevant OSCE and NPT treaties and advancement of NATO to Russia’s borders cross all Russia’s Red Lines and risk war. And since the Outlaw US Empire “is not prepared to discuss firm and legally binding guarantees of Russian security, Moscow will be forced to respond, including ‘through the implementation of measures of a military-technical nature.'” Thus, the situation is alarming and must be resolved as soon as possible.
All the threats aimed at Russia are provocative and attempt to cover up the real source of the crisis, which is based on Outlaw US Empire policy and its history since its inception of treaty violations, lies, deceptions, and criminal actions, including those ongoing in Syria and elsewhere. Lavrov didn’t mention the Outlaw US Empire’s sponsorship and deployment of its Terrorist Foreign Legion. But at least the Outlaw US Empire/NATO is justly accused of numerous treaty violations. Also, the point raised that NATO as an organization isn’t a signatory to the OSCE Treaties and thus responses by individual signatory nations to Russia’s requests for clarification are still required and expected as soon as possible.
I’m sure 130 or so nations are applauding from the sidelines at Russia’s initiative to contain the Outlaw US Empire’s illegal activities. However, the warning Escobar included in his essay is quite valid. The Outlaws are serial as in addicted to having their own way like any Mafia or Town Boss and as such are very dangerous. I hope they sense the walls closing in on their criminality, cease their doubling-down and prepare their bolt-holes for long term habitation. The world has had quite enough of them and wants to turn a new page in human advancement that the Outlaws impede.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 18 2022 0:38 utc | 164

Alexander Mercouris has his daily 40 minute analysis of the Ukraine situation, well worth the time as usual. Lots of speculation but he is clear when he poses his thoughts vs. the information he’s received. a few points but not all:
the exodus from Kiev is unexpected and looks like a disaster for the puppet government and the Empire.
Russia appears steady and in control of their systems.
Russia is doing a lot in Syria, creating a major power shift in the Mediterranean.
NATO is fracturing.
Germany and France (and others) are not united with the Empire.
The shelling in the Donbass– while it is an escalation– does not appear to be a major offensive aimed to move the line.
More. Watch the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Y_DD7t2uA

Posted by: migueljose | Feb 18 2022 0:46 utc | 165

Mercouris,
one more point: He speculates that moral is likely very low among Ukraine troops based on previous reports he received plus the exodus from Kiev which lessens the likelihood that Ukies will be motivated to invade the Donbass while their government and overloards flee. Mercouris guesses that if troops retreat the conscripts will desert leaving the Azov to find their way back to Galicia & Lviv.

Posted by: migueljose | Feb 18 2022 0:53 utc | 166

Finian Cunningham offers an excellent introduction to what might become a larger work: “The U.S. Needs Cold War but the Real Enemy Is Within,” an appraisal myself and others share, and others have actually written about.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 18 2022 1:20 utc | 167

If nothing else, the meeting at UNSC today featured across-the-board endorsement for implementation of the Minsk Accords, negotiated now seven years ago. Russian representative described what motivated the delay:
“The root cause of the problem is Kiev’s systematic unwillingness to have direct dialogue with authorized representatives of Donetsk and Lugansk in the Contact Group. This happens despite the fact that paras. 4, 9, 11, and 12 of the document directly stipulate such dialogue.”
The Ukraine and American responses insisted the “authorized representatives of Donetsk and Lugansk” were simply Russian puppets and seek new state-to-state dialogue / negotiation with Russia rather than implementation. This informs the continuing demand that “Russia live up to its Minsk responsibilities”.
Regardless of such position, it is obvious that the actual document refers to “authorized representatives of Donetsk and Lugansk” and does so in multiple paragraphs. This is similar to the European security documents in that the agreed language is unambiguous .

Posted by: jayc | Feb 18 2022 1:28 utc | 168

It’s Reuters, so of course its misinformation at best:
“Earlier on Thursday, Reuters ran a report claiming to detail the terms upon which the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) would be revived. However, Iran’s Foreign Ministry quickly spoke up and dismissed the story as less-than-factual.
“’Misinformation disguised as reporting is dangerous,’ Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Saeed Khatibzadeh tweeted.
“’The final deal to let the US return to the JCPOA will be far from the unsourced spin making the rounds. It won’t be a bilateral agreement either,’ he said. ‘Expect more spin as we approach [the] final days.'”
Probably another reason behind the hysteria.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 18 2022 1:37 utc | 169

Blinky at the UN Security Council meeting today. Well, this probably was or is just about everything that the CIA, MI6 and all the other dumbbell ‘intelligence’ agencies have or are still considering or planning for:
https://www.rt.com/russia/549776-uk-military-russia-invasion-map/
“…..Meanwhile, his Secretary of State Antony Blinken told the UN Security Council that Russia intended to “manufacture a pretext” for attacking that could be anything from “a fabricated so-called ‘terrorist’ bombing inside Russia, the invented discovery of a mass grave, a staged drone strike against civilians, or a fake – even a real – attack using chemical weapons.”…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 18 2022 2:26 utc | 170

A week ago I wrote

It looks almost as if USA is about to stage a false Russian invasion of Ukraine with Russian tanks driving all the way to Kiev. They will then establish a pro-Russian administration in Ukraine and claim Russia did it.

and

Will we soon see a “Republic of Lemberg”
Is there any reason for Russia to invade Ukraine now? Russia has already achieved every last one of its war aims, regime change in Ukraine and end to any NATO aspirations.
I said earlier, that if Russia invaded Kiev they would not establish a puppet government. Instead they would demand that Zelensky stay on as president. What needs to go is the true power in Kiev, the US occupation regime. Every last military instructor, NATO bureaucrat and CIA agent embedded in the SBU has now left Ukraine. Is there anything more that Russia could demand?
I hear that the US ambassador is still in Ukraine, but has moved the embassy to Lviv. A very welcome development. Maybe they will establish a “Republic of Lemberg” or something.

Alexander Mercouris has come to similar conclusions: (at 20 minutes in this video)

Ukraine Update: After ‘Invasion Day’ Flop US/UK Continue War Scare. Oil Price Approaches $100/barrel

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Feb 18 2022 2:50 utc | 171

A better image from Galicia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y67eiAy7lbo

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 18 2022 3:09 utc | 172

OSCE Situation Report Feb 18
Based on information from the Monitoring Teams as of 19:30 16 February 2022. All times are in Eastern European Time.
Summary
> In Donetsk region, the SMM recorded 189 ceasefire violations, including 128 explosions. In the previous reporting period, it recorded 24 ceasefire violations in the region.
> In Luhansk region, the Mission recorded 402 ceasefire violations, including 188 explosions. In the previous reporting period, it recorded 129 ceasefire violations in the region.
>etc . . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 18 2022 3:28 utc | 173

Karlof 168
The final deal to let the US return to the JCPOA<. …to let the US return to the JCPOA …to let
That must sting. The U$A of course believed it could waltz back at its leisure, renegotiate terms to its liking.
To be held outside the venue, nose pressed against the glass, while the party goes on without them, unsure if they will ever score a renewed invite…
And with Russia AND China misbehaving at the same time,
Makes for a very irritable Empire.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 18 2022 4:08 utc | 174

Despite the US rantings at the UN Security Council meeting, European council members France, Ireland, Albania and Norway, joined by Germany, Estonia and the European Union delegation echoed U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres’ urgent call to resolve the Ukraine crisis through diplomacy and called for full implementation of the Minsk Agreements starting with the cease-fire. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 18 2022 4:16 utc | 175

Interesting times, indeed. Nobody has asked (or considered?) what will happen once this vile and infantile stage-managed affairs-of-state soap-opera plays out. The only thing I will bet on is a new low in mendacious propaganda will be reached as the DC players responsible for their policy failures attempt to turn their innumerable arrant public mendacities and obvious policy failures into words of wisdom that led to a great American triumph that we must all be grateful(in particular, grateful to our wise and wonderful leaders) for.
That’s a tall one even for Hollywood to sell us. It sure won’t sell anywhere else in this world. Anyone in DC thinking, or worried, about that?

Posted by: Daniel N. White | Feb 18 2022 4:18 utc | 176

…from Ukraine
The amount of damage to Ukraine resulting from military hysteria amounted to 6.5 billion dollars – Goldarb
The disappointing decline in Ukraine’s economic indicators caused by the panic initiated by the Anglo-Saxon countries was indicated by Maxim Goldarb, head of the Union of Left Forces (For a New Socialism), on his Telegram channel. . .here
Zelensky has been asking for $4-5 billion more.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 18 2022 4:24 utc | 177

..from the Pentagon, a Press Conference at NATO HQ:
Secretary of Defense General Lloyd J. Austin III:
Q: Mr. Secretary, who is responsible for the shelling today in Ukraine’s Donbas region, and how concerning is it? And what are you doing to lower the risk of dangerous and potentially explosive U.S.-Russia interactions like the close call between aircraft this weekend?
SEC. AUSTIN: Well, we’ve seen the reports of the shelling in — Phil, and they’re certainly troubling. We’re still gathering the details. But you know, we’ve said for some time that the Russians might do something like this in order to justify a military conflict, so we’ll be watching this very closely. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 18 2022 4:45 utc | 178

Republic of Lemberg?
Vinmanstan
Nulandstan
Ziostan
It all depends on any number of conspiracy theories, I guess.
The province in the south might find the Russian embrace or even the Moldovan. Time will tell.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 18 2022 5:32 utc | 179

Don Bacon #174
The UKUSA must be hating this Minsk chorus that never ends. Can you imagine their fury being held to account by a United Nations unanimous decision!!
Eat shit UKUSA and smile for the camera. However they will likely command Milley to invent a pretext and he will not be able to decline. Perhaps a submarine ‘attack’ that no one will see?

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 18 2022 5:44 utc | 180

@Jörgen Hassler | Feb 17 2022 17:09 utc | 79
Agreed, the “shelled” kindergarten photo isn’t credible. If it was hit and the round didn’t detonate, where is it and why wouldn’t it be mentioned? If it was hit and the round exploded, the room and maybe the whole building would no longer exist. Instead, other than the hole and bricks not a scratch or scorch on the walls, no blown out windows.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Feb 18 2022 6:19 utc | 181

uncle tungsten @179–
The UKUSA must be hating this Minsk chorus that never ends. Can you imagine their fury being held to account by a United Nations unanimous decision!!
The massive irony is they voted for it and put themselves into the dilemma they never imagined would result. Add in the fact that the coup was a massive violation of the UN Chater, US Constitution, and numerous OSCE treaties which seems to have made it the Outlaw’s last major crime.
Regarding Bliken’s actions reported @169, Russia doesn’t need any sort of “pretext” to intervene in Ukraine. It’s declared that the peoples of Donbass are being subjected to genocide, so Russia has every right–R2P–to intervene. The man’s such a major dunce it’s incredible he was given a position of power.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 18 2022 6:31 utc | 182

Vintage Red @180–
Vestiges of the White Helmet’s Chlorine Tank bomb–100% faked.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 18 2022 6:33 utc | 183

@karlof1 | Feb 18 2022 6:33 utc | 182

Vestiges of the White Helmet’s Chlorine Tank bomb–100% faked.

Precisely my thought, you said it first.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 18 2022 6:52 utc | 184

i’m not sure why so many barflies insist russia isn’t planning any war, when actually russia would be fairly justified going to war after years and year of provocations and encroachment by the u.s. and nato. the ukrainian regime is barely legitimate, and in nov. made yarosh, former right sector chief, the advisor to the army commander-in-chief. it’s fascistized, and flouting the minsk agreement. so why are people so bashful about the reality? why is russia, for that matter?

Posted by: line islands | Feb 18 2022 7:01 utc | 185

@ line islands | Feb 18 2022 7:01 utc | 184 who wrote that Russia would be “justified” in going to war with empire.
What you seem to not understand is that there are a number of us humans that believe in rule of law. Russia talks and acts rule of law not rule of Might-Makes-Right which is what you are, not so subtly, pushing for.
Russia is being bashful???? How trite!

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 18 2022 7:08 utc | 186

Straight from the “Babies torn from incubators” playbook, a Donetsk kindergarten now has a large hole in its side wall. Holes don’t magically make themselves, so who did it.?
First reports blamed Russians with mortar attack..
But now ex military guys from “the internet” are doing open source analysis. And the narrative has bigger holes than the kindergarten wall.
Comments…
This “attack on Ukraine” by Russian-aligned forces is suspect.
SOMEONE is lying. Apparently a nursery was hit by an “artillery shell” in Ukraine. But.
Why would an artillery shell come in horizontally instead of down on the roof or at least at an angle downward?
Why does it look like the side of the wall was torn away?
Why are the windows 3 feet away from the supposed explosion not shattered?
Why are the soccer balls 2 feet away from the explosion not blown off the shelves?
Watermelons with no damage.
Why a hole, but no crater.
The trajectory allegedly for a mortar is wrong. Ricochet possible though very unlikely.
How did the shell hit when there’s another building in front of the hole?
That the windows aren’t blown out, and the soccer balls are still on the shelves 3 feet from the direct hit, is hilarious.
That is literally a C4 blast. Look at the outside and see how the walls are shredded in a circular fashion. The circle blast is inward and focused.
If it were a mortar strike, it wouldnt gave created such a specific blast. It would have needed to be an AP round at best. Instead, a real mortar blast would have reduced a larger portion of the strike zone, not blow a hole through and barely damage on the inside.
As a former artillery chief in 2 divisions.. this is NOT the result of INDIRECT FIRE. This is either made by hand tools, or POSSIBLY a rocket propelled grenade from about 100 meters away.
WINDOWS: One explanation: They are built to withstand this type of activity as its expected in the region. Which of course is logical.
Since when does an artillery shell make a looney toons hole in the wall like that?
Doesn’t look like artillery damage. Based on how the wood is blown out it looks like a shell was fired horizontally, from the back of the building and went through the front.
News said 82mm mortars and 40mm grenade launchers. But No projectile has been shown
That shot in the side of the building came from the southeast, the only LNR position southeast from there is 6 km away
Not enough damage in the building looks like either a c4, or a ram hit. Hole would be nearly impossible with a mortar.
There’s no penetration in the next wall inside the building
That wall is THICK! Yeah, 4 layers, that’s something you don’t see very often
Exterior pic two with fresh craters
Weird: the hole in the wall being on the SIDE of the building instead of the roof and ceiling. You’d have to be close to make a hole in a wall like that with a mortar. . 200 meters away max.
WALL: It’s a hole, not a crater. It’s unlikely the shell detonated. Should be retrievable.
Could be a hole from a javelin or other guided antitank missle. But. no projectile shown, could have been a c4/water breaching charge
RANGE:
82 mm HE mortar projectiles generally contain anywhere between 392 g and 680 g of HE and have maximum ranges of between 3,000 – 5,500 m
40mm is 400-800 m.
First, there was more than one shell hit near the kindergarten.
Second, the target was obviously not a kindergarten, but a railway station next to it – one ukrainian soldier was killed there and two more were wounded
Third, you overestimate the power of HE-FRAG artillery shells
Coordinates: 48.67799003402516, 39.45123627494037
From the kindergarten to the LNR position on the south east is more then 6000m, plus line of sight could be an issue, because that shot came all the way across the town. Also, look at the height map, there’s no way they are rolling out guns on that position without being spotted from the north.
FALSE FLAG: They know that people are stupid. False flags don’t need to make sense. Just have something go “boom”, then let the media explain Putin personally punched a hole.
OK.So. Ukraine waited 8 years until Ruskies have 150k on the border.
Yeah NOW it’s time to attack Donbas.
ALTERNATIVE VIEW: Ukraine have mobilised and conscripted all they can, have been given new weapons and been on high alert for a month.
The Donbas is saturated with them. Who can keep the neonazi battalions on a leash when they are the strongest they’ve ever been and itching for a fight?
https://twitter.com/Shtirlitz53/status/1494236518919118850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF3OaJ4_52A
Some Barflies might be able to punch a few more holes in the narrative.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 18 2022 7:14 utc | 187

… and “Poof!” … just like that the Hillary Rodham Clinton gang disappear off the front page news…. Mission accomplished.

Posted by: imo | Feb 18 2022 7:37 utc | 188

@Peter AU1 | Feb 17 2022 20:45 utc | 127
>>Zelensky should have listened to Lavrov the other day then he
>>would understand exactly why the OSCE were pulled out of Ukraine.
Are you saying that Ze is a patsy in the flare-up in shelling etc? For what it’s worth, SouthFront reads it differently. According to SF, the Maidanites from Ze on down see the Russian withdrawals as “Putin blinked”; with the OSCE SMM also cut down to size, Kiev must feel this is their moment to move on Donbass–the line Ze has pushed almost since coming into office.
I just don’t have a sense of scale of what is going on in Donbass right now. (Conversely, for the military leaderships, this must be the objective and therefore clearest part.) Sadly, a couple civilians getting shelled is just another night in this corner of the world. Is this still something the LDPR militia can meaningfully respond to, or is it time for Vlad to say “Final warning”? (And yes, that should be Putin himself.)
To seriously change Ukie calculus, you’d have to hit their top brass, and probably also the oligarchs. (Well I don’t mean striking the latter in Geneva etc; hitting their assets would do nicely.) Of course, even a stand-off strike would immediately be spun as “Putin’s invasion”. Russia is quickly getting into the very situation it hoped to avoid.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 18 2022 8:08 utc | 189

@uncle tungsten | Feb 18 2022 5:44 utc | 179
>>Can you imagine their fury being held to account by a
>>United Nations unanimous decision!!
Nah, happens all the time in UNGA votes on Israel/Palestine. The US is isolated on the UN Convention on Children’s Rights. Just the other day, the US and their Kiev pets were isolated on condemning Nazism.
Which film was it again, where Miss Marple left the jury chambers, and a reporter asked her about a particularly obstinate member. She replied “Not quite like that, I saw eleven!”
People gloat at Uncle Sam, because his thick skull is not conducive to subtle thought. But it makes for excellent head-butts.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 18 2022 8:19 utc | 190

Russia is fully justified in using any means necessary to reinstate the Russian Empire: from the Duchy of Warsaw to Alaska and Fort Ross, California.
Anyone who opposes that is a Fascist-Zionist stooge.
Thanks to the clear-headed and concise arguments presented at this site, I have come to love Putin. I understand him. He is all that stands between us and World Capitalist Dominion.

Posted by: Malchik Ralf | Feb 18 2022 8:32 utc | 191

Seems fairly obvious that the US is trying to undermine the Olymic competition as it had done to Russia.

Posted by: jared | Feb 18 2022 8:46 utc | 192

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 18 2022 8:08 utc | 188
“Russia is quickly getting into the very situation it hoped to avoid.”
That may be why Russia needs to refocus the world’s attention on the illegal US occupation of Eastern Syria.
As I noted maybe a month ago here, this is where I would expect a significant military technical display to occur, possibly, in aiding Assad to regain control over Syria’s Eastern lands and al-Tanf

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 18 2022 9:00 utc | 193

Yes, those heartless Zionists will even pick on teenage girls who accidentally take their grandpa’s heart medication…

Posted by: Malchik Ralf | Feb 18 2022 9:20 utc | 194

Posted by: thewokendead | Feb 17 2022 20:56 utc | 129
What? Eminem is about to invade Ukraine?
I’m Zelensky
Yes I’m the real ‘ensky
All you other Zelenskies…
The rhyme doesn’t even work. These people really need NATO to protect them!

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Feb 18 2022 9:30 utc | 195

Ma Laoshi #189

People gloat at Uncle Sam, because his thick skull is not conducive to subtle thought. But it makes for excellent head-butts.

True that but any chance for gloat is worth the time.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 18 2022 9:33 utc | 196

Ma Laoshi #189

People gloat at Uncle Sam, because his thick skull is not conducive to subtle thought. But it makes for excellent head-butts.

True that but any chance for gloat is worth the time.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 18 2022 9:33 utc | 197

karlof1 #181

The massive irony is they voted for it and put themselves into the dilemma they never imagined would result. Add in the fact that the coup was a massive violation of the UN Chater, US Constitution, and numerous OSCE treaties which seems to have made it the Outlaw’s last major crime.

Over all this is the repeated evidence fact that the USA does not care one jot about any agreement no matter who makes it and why. They will break agreements at their time and choosing. You can rely on it.
That is why the JCPOA ritual discussions are pretty much beyond my care or interest as they are just a torture toy for the lunatics in the White House. In the end the UKUSA will just invent a pretext to steal the cash. Ask the people of Afghanistan who once held a bank deposit account.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 18 2022 9:40 utc | 198

@Blue Dotterel | Feb 18 2022 9:00 utc | 192
>>That may be why Russia needs to refocus the world’s attention
>>on the illegal US occupation of Eastern Syria.
Well yes the Kremlin often ignores Donbass shelling, but the domestic political price for that seems to become serious. Can’t see how they could ignore a Donbass assault. Either way, I keep being told that CENTCOM has escalation dominance in the Middle East: Russia has to color within the lines, and a few planes extra wouldn’t really change that. Proxy attacks on supply convoys may be both the right weapon and the right soft targets; hey it’s worked before.
And again, narrative is everything. Russia invited the US into Syria for “anti-terror partnership”; they didn’t imagine the yanks would come with so many, and for so long. But all the precedents said they would. Once you conceded they key idea that the Empire aggresses against Syria, it all becomes messy though.
Still going with Bhadrakumar: at a minimum, the Kremlin now understands that some of its past appeasement policies were a mistake. That’s a decent basis to find a path forward.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Feb 18 2022 9:43 utc | 199

Maybe Erdogan will invade.
But don’t leave it to him to decide.
He will likely do it and then claim that they won because the troops didn’t fight back.
Then his generals will tell him that he just invaded Turkey:/

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 18 2022 9:44 utc | 200