Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
February 25, 2022
Disarming Ukraine – Day 2

The Russian operations in the Ukraine continue at a moderate pace. Some more troops were committed today. In all the Russian military may have now introduced some 20-40% of its prepared forces.

The Ukrainian military is not so much holding a line but concentrating in and around its bigger cities. It has destroyed some bridges north of Kiev to make an approach more difficult. That will slow down the Russian moves but will not prevent them. Russia's military is famously good at setting up combat bridges.

So far the Russians have used their artillery sparsely. An exception was last night near Kharkiv in the northeast of Ukraine where a strike by multiple launcher artillery systems (MLRS) hit some area target with yet unknown results.

A 13 minutes long video from a highway drive near Kherson, a city north of Crimea, shows nearly 100 destroyed Ukrainian trucks and tanks. These are likely victims of air attacks.

If this map from a Turkish think tank source is correct the Russian troops did not attempt much deeper strikes today but mostly consolidated their frontline.


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This map from Janes shows less progress. But it also has not marked the Donbas area in the southeast which is held by pro-Russian forces.



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Russia's President has called on the Ukrainian military to overthrow its government. I do not think he believes that will happen but it is a possibility so why not call for it.

Facebook now allows to praise Ukrainian Nazi groups like the Azov battalion. This was prohibited with Azov previously being in the same category as ISIS. Now these are 'our guys'.

There are a lot of discussions of sanctions against Russia and every western country is trying to get as much exemptions for its industries as possible . The U.S. has for example exempted everything that has to do with hydrocarbons from its own sanction package. It will still buy Russian oil and will continue to sell drilling equipment to Russia.

The EU countries are still negotiating with themselves. They should be careful with what they do.

Britain has had the stupidity of sanctioning the Russian air carrier Aeroflot. In a counter move Russia prohibited British Airways from flying over Russian territory. Normally all flights from Britain to the Far East cross Russian airspace. These will now have to be redirected to other routes which will significantly increase their flight time and fuel burn.

Russia has threatened 'inconvenient' counter-sanctions to those who sanction it. Overflight rights are only one of the tools it can use.

NATO has said it will continue to deliver weapons, including air defenses, to the Ukraine. NATO does not have any weapons but some NATO countries seem to strive for a larger war. The U.S. seem willing to sacrifice the Ukraine to create a quagmire for Russia.

Syria was also supposed to become a quagmire for Russia when Russia came to its help. It didn't turn out that way.

Comments

There’s a document circulating around, supposedly from the Justice Dept. of Ukraine, with orders to arm and release all convicts currently under arrest. They’ve already dumped 30k assault rifles on the heads of civilians …
Posted by: Skiffer | Feb 26 2022 17:53 utc | 394

What happens next ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LWNQqs7TE

Posted by: too scents | Feb 26 2022 18:03 utc | 401

The whole adventure is doomed because they didn’t think it through.
…At best, but likely the Russia will lose the war within just a few weeks if not days.
Posted by: Nico | Feb 26 2022 17:28 utc | 389
7 p.m. How nice, Saturday Night Live came to Norway early this week.
Take a minute and pop on over to Martyanov’s site and read what a retired 30 year US Navy Officer has to say: Byron King
Couple quotes as a teaser,
“But in reality, Russia has been preparing the battlefield for weeks, months and even years. … This is something deep in the military DNA of Russia.”
“Do not underestimate Russian planners or equipment for even a moment. In my professional opinion (my 30 years of association with the U.S. Navy) they are outstanding at what they do.”

Posted by: waynorinorway | Feb 26 2022 18:07 utc | 402

James (390).
Thank you for that link it was an interesting read.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 26 2022 18:10 utc | 403

Posted by: waynorinorway | Feb 26 2022 18:07 utc | 400
the problem with mr. King is that he gives military angle. And surely there is no problem to destroy Ukrainian army. Like there was no problem for Soviet or American arme to enter Afghanistant steamrolling any resistance.
The problem is social and political. The problem is what you gonna do with this “suitcase lacking a handle” after the army cleared the pathway.

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 26 2022 18:11 utc | 404

Arioch@397,
Sure, but with Tornado they sent those fuckers off to the front before letting them rape and pillage. Although they still managed to do lots of heinous shit over there, they were still sandwiched between other volunteer bats and regular servicemen. Right now, the front is inaccessible, so they’re giving them a gun at the door and letting them out in major cities. Maybe they’ll make them promise to only shoot Russian aggressors, maybe, but for all intents and purposes they’re outfitting criminals to continue committing crimes against regular people.

Posted by: Skiffer | Feb 26 2022 18:12 utc | 405

Posted by: Skiffer | Feb 26 2022 18:12 utc | 403
That is the difference for theirr victims, but not for Ze and his entourage.
The doubt was that EuroMaidan regime just could not be so heartless and uncaring as to empower the worst of the criminals. Well, they were exactly that and they are.

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 26 2022 18:13 utc | 406

“Nationalist (Ukrainian Neo-Nazi battalions) are using so-called ‘Bandera cars’ which are cross-country vehicles with large-caliber firearms or mortars mounted on them. Let me remind that this tactic is practiced by international terrorists in Syria,”
These tactics have been taught to the Ukrainian Nazi forces by outside forces, (USA, UK etc) the same tactics that the West has used in Syria, Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.
https://tass.com/russia/1412043
The Ukrainian Nazis are shelling civilian areas in Dontesk, not military bases or posts but the houses of families.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 26 2022 18:15 utc | 407

he bien a mon grand désaroi il semble bien que les russes en prennent plein la gueule.
well to my great dismay it seems that the Russians are taking a lot of it

Posted by: la bouteille | Feb 26 2022 18:16 utc | 408

Also, just heard civilians are being issued grenade launchers. GRENADE LAUNCHERS FFS!!!

Posted by: Skiffer | Feb 26 2022 18:17 utc | 409

Ukrainians are still posturing about “Don’t believe Russian fakes! There can be no reason for us to target our kin in Donbass!”
Video from Mariupol. “Azov” POLICE unit ambushes citizens who try fleeing the city before the battle starts. So much about “our kin”.
https://t.me/swodki/25956

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 26 2022 18:19 utc | 410

Lots of great posts (trolls exempted from this nod), but my favorite, because it’s very trenchant (quickest to THE point):

This war is not Russia fighting the Ukraine, it is Russia fighting the US, as it is in Syria. The US side is using it’s ‘stand off weapons’ of financial power, propaganda, and proxies. The Russian side is all in on this.
Posted by: the pessimist | Feb 26 2022 15:55 utc | 356

Anyone paying attention to Mearsheimer back in 2015 would have expected EXACTLY what is happening now. Today the ONLY option left is/was to destroy Ukraine. It’s ON the West.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4
Chechens now in Ukraine. Neo-Nazis are [will be] finished: any leftovers will be welcomed into the US (though not as elegantly as they were under Operation Paperclip).

Posted by: Seer | Feb 26 2022 18:21 utc | 411

TBH Did President Putin have a choice? Give it a couple of months Ukraine will be forced to conform to Russia’s wishes: i.e. No NATO membership, no Nukes and No Russophobia.I STAND WITH RUSSIA SLAVA ROSSIIJA!!!!!!

Posted by: Tony Wright | Feb 26 2022 18:27 utc | 412

to #317 librul
librul wrote:
“Say Housedoc,
The quote you posted yesterday, Feb 25th, from Michael Brenner
is a genuine keeper. Something that people would want to refer back to months/years from now to understand the thinking about this huge event in Ukraine.
I can find no source link for what you posted. Could you kindly provide it? Much thanks.”
It was an email from Prof Brenner – he maintains a list of people to whom sends his thoughts. I believe anyone can subscribe.
His site is:
https://sites.pitt.edu/~mbren/Welcome.htm
On this site he gives his email as mbren@pitt.edu I am sure you can contact him using that email.

Posted by: Housedoc | Feb 26 2022 18:28 utc | 413

Peter AU1 @345–
Thanks for your blunt words used in your reply!! Many have read Saker’s analysis of the military situation as of yesterday evening and have some grasp of the methods being employed. The difference with NATO tactics of smashing cities and civilians is extremely stark and mirrors its behavior in Syria. As for the countersanctions, the lady Senator I cited yesterday essentially said we know where their weaknesses are and will target them. I cited current fuel costs and inflation level on the open thread as a reference marker. Here’s the link to fuel data that’s updated daily.
The map function shows the vast differences in key states from the national average. Average diesel in California for example is already at $5.057/gal and cessation of Russian imports will quickly drive it over $8/gal and make the still existing logistics SNAFU even worse. Consumer inflation could easily go to 20% or higher by June or even earlier. Independent truckers will just stop working as they’ll lose money, and all land freight costs will explode. Farmers use lots of diesel, so food costs will also explode. The resulting level of political blowback is currently hard to judge, but there will be a lot. How the Fascists react is also a guess currently, but IMO it’s likely to be very ugly.
Bottom line, as I wrote yesterday, I see Russia’s invoking Article 51 of the UN Charter in its self-defense against NATO aggression as also providing self-defense for the world by finally stopping the aggression of the Outlaw US Empire, which is now a clearly Fascist entity that will need to be written about further given the feedback I received.
I should answer Cadence Calls replies by saying I’m pleased to see you’re learning; and although your learning curve is steep at present, just keep climbing. Just digesting Hudson’s 3rd edition of Super Imperialism will help you climb much faster.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2022 18:42 utc | 414

The Saker has a new thread up day 3.
In which it looks like the Ukrainian Nazis are now surrounded by Russian forces, (maps) and its just a case of tightening the nets around them.
https://thesaker.is/day-3-of-the-russian-operation-in-the-ukraine-open-thread/?inmoderation

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 26 2022 18:51 utc | 415

Just when I thought I was out…
https://youtu.be/YOvbUu0OlbQ
…they pull me back in!
I can always tell I hit a nerve when someone presumes to know me by projecting the worst of themselves. Yes, I’m looking at you c1ue. I had the misfortune of mistakenly going back to Day 1 thread and noticed the trash-talk hitjob left behind. Good thing misotheist was there to acknowledge the truth in my 419, above and beyond your bias.
You have no c1ue what I stand for.
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@345 Peter AU1
I agree, but it’s Billions not Millions.
@commandante
Since you’re a concerned, informed armchair commandante; have you looked up Hannibal and studied how he put the fear of God in the Roman Empire?
All’s well, Russia has resumed fiercely today.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 26 2022 18:52 utc | 416

vice President of Russia Medvedev this morning:
Larchmonter445 & Yandex translation from Russian https://vk.com/wall53083705_54485
Here, sanctions were imposed against all members of the Russian Security Council. Here I write this text almost in a panic. Hurtful. And what are we going to do now? But for the sake of history, I want to note the following.
1. First, about the main thing. These wonderful prohibitions, of course, will not change anything. Even the ignorant people at the State Department can understand that. Including the decision to conduct a military operation to protect the Donbass. It will be carried out in full, until all the results mentioned by the Russian President are achieved. No more and no less. As, by the way, it was in a similar situation in 2008.
2. I believe that it is obvious to all smart people: sanctions are a myth, a fiction, a figure of speech. I am deeply indifferent to these widely advertised restrictions on rights abroad. You can say more strictly, but I will refrain😂. I am a Russian citizen. And that says it all.
Well, sanctions are being taken for an obvious reason. From political impotence, which arose on the basis of the inability to change the course of Russia. And also-in the hope of justifying shameful decisions, such as cowardly flight from Afghanistan.
In general, our partners in the United States and the EU are doing great – nothing consolidates the power, management elites and, to a large extent, citizens of our country more than love for Americans and Europeans. So-wait!
By the way, for reference. Neither I nor my family members had and do not have any foreign accounts or any property abroad.
3. There is some good news. Sanctions can be an excellent reason for a final review of all relations with those states that have imposed them. Including for interrupting the dialogue on strategic stability. After all, you can basically abandon everything, including the START-3 Treaty, which I concluded with Barack Obama and extended by Vladimir Putin with the current head of the United States. Why do we need it now, in such conditions, especially if it is signed by sanctioned persons? It doesn’t look very good. Yes, and diplomatic relations in principle are not particularly necessary. It’s time to close embassies with barn locks. And to continue contacts, considering each other not otherwise than in binoculars and weapon optics.
4. Now we are being chased from everywhere, punished, and scared, but we are not afraid again (almost like Leo Tolstoy in a certain situation). The Council of Europe and PACE have already suspended Russia’s membership. A wild injustice. Although it’s a good excuse to finally slam the door and forget about these pointless almshouses forever. And they foolishly joined once. Because of my youth. In addition, it is also a good opportunity to restore a number of important institutions for the prevention of particularly serious crimes in the country. Such as the death penalty for the most dangerous criminals, which, by the way, is actively used in the United States and China.
Exclusion from the OECD is also an insanely scary thing. I don’t know what to do now. Although they didn’t want to see us there for almost eight years already. And again they don’t want to. Well, you won’t be nice by force…
Further on, exceptions “from everywhere” in the form of punishment-according to the list. Inevitably, you will only think about the time spent in these structures in vain.
5. They also threaten to seize money of Russian citizens and Russian companies abroad. Just everyone, without any sanctions. Solid. Like out of spite. But this will have to be answered quite symmetrically. Seizure of funds of foreigners and foreign companies in Russia on a country-by-country basis. And maybe-and nationalization of the property of those persons who are registered in unfriendly jurisdictions. Such as the United States, EU states and a number of singing countries of the Anglo-Saxon world that will take part in this. Fortunately, we have a rich experience and a law on this topic. Strict. So all the fun is just beginning…

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 26 2022 19:16 utc | 417

karlof1 | 414

Average diesel in California for example is already at $5.057/gal and cessation of Russian imports will quickly drive it over $8/gal

Someone here posted a video of UK volunteers fighting with the Ukes. The youtube comments were all “Go, Ukraine, Go!”, but I didn’t see anyone volunteering themselves (or their kids) to fight for NATO expansion. I wonder if they would even volunteer to pay $8 for gasoline.
The TV coverage is bizarre. Anyone expecting “Shock and Awe” fireworks is disappointed. The managed to find a woman who said she heard shooting in the streets overnight.
I expect Canada will get a new batch of immigrants, and find them cushy jobs like for Chrystia’s grandpa.

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 26 2022 19:24 utc | 418

Circe 416
billions it is. just another of my many typos and blank spots.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 26 2022 19:25 utc | 419

Arioch 417
This has got steam coming out mild Medvedev’s ears. It’s good to see him writing like that.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 26 2022 19:44 utc | 420

Arioch @417–
Thanks for providing that. Some people will need to modify their opinions of Medvedev.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2022 19:44 utc | 421

@Arioch

well done, idiot

Hahahahaha…. It’s sad but true. When “clowns” are in charge you have yourself a circus.

Posted by: InnerCynic | Feb 26 2022 19:59 utc | 422

B is doing somethign weird with comments.
Usually when he removes garbage comments numeration shrins, but now it expands instead.
300 became 301, 305 ==> 306, 391 ==> 393, 394 ==> 396, etc
Anomaly O_o

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 26 2022 20:28 utc | 423

Posted by: Olivier | Feb 26 2022 12:47 utc | 292
“The troll army is moving inside Alabama!”
De-trollification operation:
1) Approach and try to gain peaceful surrender;
2) Suppress main trolling positions;
3) Surround them, allowing special corridors for innocent non-trolls to evacuate;
4) Hold position while reconnoitering outer troll lines;
5) Conduct reconnaissance into their positions;
6) After noncombatants have evacuated, address entrenched trolls with historical and factual artillery, air strikes and missiles;
7) Once resistance suppressed, post-by-post mop up with specialized forces.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Feb 26 2022 20:37 utc | 424

“Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 26 2022 15:22 utc | 341”
Supplement on US bioweapon labs:
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/02/24/us-bioweapons-labs-in-ukraine-what-will-russia-find-in-the-labs/

Posted by: Olivier | Feb 26 2022 21:02 utc | 425

“Posted by: Vintage Red | Feb 26 2022 20:37 utc | 424”
Yep, the Chechens and Daghestani will do the mop up.

Posted by: Olivier | Feb 26 2022 21:05 utc | 426

@ Arioch | Feb 26 2022 20:28 utc | 423 who seems somewhat new to the MoA bar
The numbers go up when b releases comments from pending status and the numbers go down when b deletes existing comments

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 26 2022 21:19 utc | 427

Proposition: to call the clown playing the fictitious role of the president as: the Zek.

Posted by: Olivier | Feb 26 2022 22:14 utc | 428

Together with our allies in Europe and North America. @Federal Chancellor Scholz today adopted further tough punitive measures. Russian banks to be excluded from #SWIFT, assets to be frozen, end to Golden Passport. https://twitter.com/RegSprecher/status/1497695421510012928

Posted by: Passerby | Feb 26 2022 22:28 utc | 429

psychohistorian | 427
Do the links associated to the posts change, or still point to the same content?
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/02/disarming-ukraine-day-2.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef0278806da21a200d#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef0278806da21a200d

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 26 2022 22:59 utc | 430

Thank you B and all regular of MoA for constant update on the situation
i remembered during and after 2014 and continued to russian intervention in syria , reading MoA , Saker and Smoothie for constant updates .. i still remembered how many sites that was pro russia in 2014 like zerohedge now become empire mouthpieceand co opted by the empire to become their “alternate but still supporting empire” site..
Very glad to see MoA , Saker , Smoothie , PA and few more still hold true against the empire of lies media juggernaut..
again thank you B and all of you regular barflies here , cheers to (but not limited to) james the brave canadian , peter AU, karlof , oriental voice and many more here too many to name ..

Posted by: DVA | Feb 27 2022 1:13 utc | 431

Am i (as looooong time lurker in MoA) the only one who noticed the similar Infowar narrative messaging all over the comment section here ( also in saker and smoothie site )
it seem the trolls / astroturfer / sock puppeter tried to push these narrative :
– Russian invasion falters , Russia weaker than expected , Ukraine defender strong and brave , Russian casualties mount and putin is in trouble…
– Trolls who cry for no war in ukraine and concerned for ukraine civilian ( but conveniently forgot the murders of donbass civilians for years )
– Trolls who pretend to be pro peace and condemn russian action as crimimal or evil while conveniently brush off the insane provocation and weaponizatioj of ukraine by the empire of lies
– Trolls who accuse the people as putin lover and insult the site moderator for being prorussian , all without even bothering to act civilized to other posters
my hats off to people here who still have patience to the obvious trolls , the new influx of new people who come here to post empire narraritve and spreading FUD..
Wish the best for B and the regular barflies

Posted by: DVA | Feb 27 2022 1:21 utc | 432

@ dva.. thanks.. post more frequently if you feel like it..

Posted by: james | Feb 27 2022 3:23 utc | 433

Posted by: Vintage Red | Feb 26 2022 20:37 utc | 424
That deserves a comment, Vintage Red — well done!
I needed that. 🙂

Posted by: juliania | Feb 27 2022 4:15 utc | 434

Posted by: Vintage Red | Feb 26 2022 20:37 utc | 424
I particularly appreciate:
3) Surround them, allowing special corridors for innocent non-trolls to evacuate..
That’s me! Thank you, Vintage Red! Could that corridor stretch all the way to Russia? There’s a place not far from Yasnaya Polya on the Olga I’d like to settle down…grow some veggies… 😉

Posted by: juliania | Feb 27 2022 4:25 utc | 435

Woops, that should have been ‘Yasnaya Polyana’ – I knew there was a syllable missing!
Never mind, the caravan has moved on, after all.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 27 2022 4:30 utc | 436

yeah vintage red.. i liked that too! thank you!

Posted by: james | Feb 27 2022 4:48 utc | 437

Once again, a lot of facile and shallow newbie trolling that fails to understand we are barely into day 3. The Russians have a plan and no one here knows exactly what it is and what are their final objectives. It could be a 5 day plan or a 5 week plan. We don’t know. The initial indications seem to indicate that they’re somewhat following the Syria playbook in that they’re trying to keep the civilian casualty count down to a minimum and also where possible to negotiate with non-Nazi UAF units. They aren’t working on some kind of a blitzkrieg timetable.
And here’s a comparison many seem to forget. This is how the West invades a country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CowOdkKNb0A
I’ve been sending this link to people I know who have been ranting about “the savage and barbaric Russian hordes”.

Posted by: thermobarbaric | Feb 27 2022 5:31 utc | 438

thermobarbaric | 437
And they specifically say Russia is attacking Ukraine’s cities, but then go to Kiev live video and it’s crickets. I guess they are just reading from an old playbook.

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 27 2022 5:45 utc | 439

@ Vintage Red | Feb 26 2022 20:37 utc | 424
LOL!! What a great post!
Also thanks to juliania from the future who made me look at this post 🙂

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 27 2022 9:02 utc | 440

We are currently at the Ukraine -Poland border.
Their Police and Army refused to let Africans cross they only allow Ukrainian.
https://twitter.com/nzekiev/status/1497805019311218689
The Ukrainian boarder is closed for certain races ==> https://twitter.com/Damilare_arah/status/1497654141350522880

Posted by: too scents | Feb 27 2022 9:13 utc | 441

@Olivier, juliana, james, Norwegian and all
Thank you *all*, it is my pleasure. And
@juliana
Yes, here’s to corridors to beauty and peace around the world!

Posted by: Vintage Red | Feb 27 2022 19:34 utc | 442