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February 25, 2022
Disarming Ukraine – Day 2

The Russian operations in the Ukraine continue at a moderate pace. Some more troops were committed today. In all the Russian military may have now introduced some 20-40% of its prepared forces.

The Ukrainian military is not so much holding a line but concentrating in and around its bigger cities. It has destroyed some bridges north of Kiev to make an approach more difficult. That will slow down the Russian moves but will not prevent them. Russia's military is famously good at setting up combat bridges.

So far the Russians have used their artillery sparsely. An exception was last night near Kharkiv in the northeast of Ukraine where a strike by multiple launcher artillery systems (MLRS) hit some area target with yet unknown results.

A 13 minutes long video from a highway drive near Kherson, a city north of Crimea, shows nearly 100 destroyed Ukrainian trucks and tanks. These are likely victims of air attacks.

If this map from a Turkish think tank source is correct the Russian troops did not attempt much deeper strikes today but mostly consolidated their frontline.


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This map from Janes shows less progress. But it also has not marked the Donbas area in the southeast which is held by pro-Russian forces.



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Russia's President has called on the Ukrainian military to overthrow its government. I do not think he believes that will happen but it is a possibility so why not call for it.

Facebook now allows to praise Ukrainian Nazi groups like the Azov battalion. This was prohibited with Azov previously being in the same category as ISIS. Now these are 'our guys'.

There are a lot of discussions of sanctions against Russia and every western country is trying to get as much exemptions for its industries as possible . The U.S. has for example exempted everything that has to do with hydrocarbons from its own sanction package. It will still buy Russian oil and will continue to sell drilling equipment to Russia.

The EU countries are still negotiating with themselves. They should be careful with what they do.

Britain has had the stupidity of sanctioning the Russian air carrier Aeroflot. In a counter move Russia prohibited British Airways from flying over Russian territory. Normally all flights from Britain to the Far East cross Russian airspace. These will now have to be redirected to other routes which will significantly increase their flight time and fuel burn.

Russia has threatened 'inconvenient' counter-sanctions to those who sanction it. Overflight rights are only one of the tools it can use.

NATO has said it will continue to deliver weapons, including air defenses, to the Ukraine. NATO does not have any weapons but some NATO countries seem to strive for a larger war. The U.S. seem willing to sacrifice the Ukraine to create a quagmire for Russia.

Syria was also supposed to become a quagmire for Russia when Russia came to its help. It didn't turn out that way.

Comments

Roger at #81
The Nation? Right now, the Nation is publishing articles like this.
Putin’s Not the “Genius”—Russia’s Anti-War Protesters Are
and
I Am Russian. I Stand With Ukraine.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Feb 25 2022 22:45 utc | 101

@ Inkan1969 | Feb 25 2022 22:45 utc | 100… no comment on those links rogers provides @ 81?

Posted by: james | Feb 25 2022 22:51 utc | 102

i guess that is your comment.. the propaganda changes as the need arises…

Posted by: james | Feb 25 2022 22:52 utc | 103

amending my post #86 it was not an airforce attack it was a ballistic missile (Tochka).
Search for: Millerovo air base attack.

Posted by: Gehennah | Feb 25 2022 22:53 utc | 104

The Chinese defining their position.
Global Times.
A nice sample of carefully taking sides by calling for diplomacy:
“The Xi-Putin conversation amid the rapidly escalating Ukraine crisis sent strong signals to the world that the relations and trust between China and Russia is tangible and firm despite US-led Western attempts to sow discord between them.”
“It is important to reject the Cold War mentality, take seriously and respect the reasonable security concerns of all countries, and reach a balanced, effective and sustainable security mechanism in Europe, Xi said. Xi said China supports Russia in solving the issue through negotiations with Ukraine.”
“And it’s possible that the pro-West government of Ukraine will step down and be replaced with a pro-Russia government, indicating that Russia, Ukraine and Belarus will form a historical, cultural and spiritual union led by Russia, Li Haidong, a professor at the Institute of International Relations of China Foreign Affairs University, told the Global Times.”
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202202/1253213.shtml

Posted by: njet | Feb 25 2022 22:56 utc | 105

@NoWar(34).
Nazi’s hate Jews, the president of Ukraine is a Jew, therefore the president cannot be a Nazi. QED.

Posted by: Neville | Feb 25 2022 22:57 utc | 106

What is being ignored is Ukraine is the same size if not slightly bigger than France.
That is a heck of chunk of territory to occupy with 150k troops even if it’s concentrated on military and logistically important site’s.

Posted by: Jpc | Feb 25 2022 22:57 utc | 107

In response to Roger@99,
Zhirinovsky has a strange relationship with everything, on account of his being strange himself. Pretty sure he’s pro-Israel these days, in addition to being pro-Ottoman, so I wouldn’t call him anti-zionist. However, certainly not an anti-semite. According to the chatter on ru-net, he predicted this military operation in a speech to the duma a year ago, right to the day and off only by 6 hours or so.
The anti-semitic scandal with Navalny iirc, because there were a few in the past, had something to do with a Kristallnacht-related quip, familiar hand-gestures done for a laugh and maybe some Nazi uniform costume party — the usual insensitive adolescent crap. I don’t think he’s an anti-semite either; just your typical egoist/sociopath who’s incapable of caring about others. I believe that people like him don’t have the capacity for an ideology, outside of their own immediate self-interest.
Also, thanks to cmplxgal@97 for the additional sources.

Posted by: Skiffer | Feb 25 2022 22:59 utc | 108

Russia banned from Eurovision song contest. OUCH!
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-60530513

Posted by: Gareth | Feb 25 2022 23:03 utc | 109

@Posted by: Sushi | Feb 25 2022 22:15 utc | 92
Yep, this is a very different environment to the mid-2010s when oil prices had crashed and the US shale boom was in full flow. Then, sanctions could be placed on oil exporters such as Venezuela and Iran, and Libya destroyed, because there was over-supply in the markets. Since then the shale boom has lessened (maybe the sweet spots are being depleted and the investors and CEOs remembering they lost money last time), low prices restricted exploration, and China’s needs have grown even more.
I think that one of the reasons that the US seems to be getting nicer to the Iranians with respect to reinstating the JCPOA is that they want Iran’s full export capability entering world markets. The Iranians are helping Venezuela increase their oil production though, which may be a problem for the agreement. Venezuela is too close to home for the US to let upon their ongoing economic war. Yes, another sanctions blowback – an Iran, Venezuela alliance. Probably Russia and China linking up with Venezuela (and Nicaragua) soon too.
EVs will not reduce oil demand until late into this decade, with the reductions probably being offset by petrochemicals (the penetration of plastics in China and other countries is quite low). So a tight oil market may be with us for quite a while, short of a major recession. With questionable longer term prospects for oil there is little incentive to develop deposits dependent on acceptable prices ($60/barrel or higher) over a multi-decadal period. With depletion then not fully offset, the supply side may slowly diminish.
EVs won’t reduce CO2 emissions until into the 2030s.
https://rogerboyd.substack.com/p/why-bevs-wont-reduce-global-co2-emissions?utm_source=url
https://rogerboyd.substack.com/p/three-very-different-car-markets?utm_source=url

Posted by: Roger | Feb 25 2022 23:07 utc | 110

@Posted by: Inkan1969 | Feb 25 2022 22:45 utc | 100
Once the war machine gets rolling all of the media tend to fall inline, also the Nation has a set of heterogeneous writers. The author of the piece is not following the US war machine line, Lev Golinkin:
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/blinken-holocaust-ukraine/
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/stephen-cohen-ukraine/
Great personal memoir:
https://www.amazon.com/Backpack-Bear-Eight-Crates-Vodka-ebook/dp/B00KAFVPFY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=14A6AUQQBUJOT&keywords=lev+golinkin&qid=1645830834&sprefix=lev+golinkin%2Caps%2C75&sr=8-1

Posted by: Roger | Feb 25 2022 23:15 utc | 112

CNN reported earlier today that a convoy of trucks came from Poland to resupply Ukrainian armed forces with weapons and ammunition. I have no idea if this is true, seems implausible to me. Did anyone else hear this?

Posted by: spudski | Feb 25 2022 23:21 utc | 113

It will be interesting find out how effective the Turkish drones have been, when up against a competent enemy and Russias array of SAMs and EWs.

Posted by: RC213V | Feb 25 2022 23:23 utc | 114

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 25 2022 20:32 utc | 32
I agree with most of your points.
The video b posted shows a column of 70 plus Ukie vehicles:
3 T64/T80, 4 BRDM, 2 BMP, 16+ truck transports, 4 4×4 APC, 2 BM-21, 2 command vehicles, 1 Ambulance, 3 Amphibious (Soviet DUKW), and more.
While some show sign of damage, the majority appear untouched and abandoned. My interpretation is that this convoy was fleeing from the border of Crimea when it came under air attack. Some vehicles were destroyed but relatively few, the majority being abandoned by their crews. The crews cannot be faulted. Wikileaks released a US military video which shows the capacity of chain gun cannon fire – all that is solid melts into air. The crews likely fled into the forest and are hopefully returning safely home.
Reporting pre-conflict indicated extremely low morale in the armed forces most of whom are conscripts and may not have much loyalty toward the regime. It was also reported that the hard-core groups such as Azov and Right Sektor were stationed behind the main line of resistance for the purpose of capturing/arresting/shooting any troops in the forward line who left their positions.
In sum the Ukie military is poorly trained and fragile such that the majority of the force structure will melt away before facing combat. If this proves true then it is unlikely there will be much in the way of any urban resistance.

Posted by: Sushi | Feb 25 2022 23:26 utc | 115

NATO has one last change to end Russia’s War on Ukraine
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/02/nato-has-one-last-change-to-end-russias-war-on-ukraine/

Posted by: Virgile | Feb 25 2022 23:28 utc | 117

Posted by: bjd | Feb 25 2022 20:44 utc | 36
The case about being 12 year old appears unrealistic, too optimistic.
It’s more like 8 year old, IMHO.
I had no clue they recruited trolls that young.
Anyway.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Feb 25 2022 23:32 utc | 118

Reportedly at noon about 20K of SMG and other weapons were just put into the street in wooden crates for everyone to take. Volkstrum a la Ukrainian, grab the gun and go somewhere.
Hipsters were trendy with new accessories ( #4 photo https://t.me/boris_rozhin/22856?single )
Tonight shooting all over Kiev, from shooting for fun, to robbery, to shooting each other over “russian diversants” paranoia.
https://t.me/swodki/25055
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/22849
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/22871
Capital in the heart of Europe or a bad ‘hood?

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 25 2022 23:33 utc | 119

That is a heck of chunk of territory to occupy with 150k troops even if it’s concentrated on military and logistically important site’s.
Posted by: Jpc | Feb 25 2022 22:57 utc | 106
Add to this 45k DNR army, plus western Ukraine won’t be touched.

Posted by: Passer by | Feb 25 2022 23:35 utc | 120

Googling around, this 12 or so US-Biolabs-in-Ukraine-Story does not seem to have much evidence. What are we talking about here?

Posted by: njet | Feb 25 2022 23:35 utc | 121

@Caliman 89
All very good points, clearly articulated.
However, as Szamuely suggested, whether or not Russia still/again has Great Power status was precisely the proposition that was to be proven, especially after Russia was “played” by the West exactly as Putin described in his masterfully bitter February 24th speech. In a realpolitik geopolitical world of might makes right, one’s only hope is to be mighty — or to benefit from a diversity of power centers.
The week has made absolutely clear that the world is no longer unipolar. This is a good in and of itself, and not just for Russia. Meanwhile, it is not at all obvious to me — is it to anyone? — that Russia’s real and reasonable security concerns would have been fully resolved by securing only the Donbass.
On the other hand, of course, maybe Russia’s security is even more endangered now, with an entire nation to subdue — a nation with NATO members as neighbors. Not to mention the damage to their international reputation.
I don’t know the answer to any of the questions raised by this military invasion and I don’t think anybody does. In an uncertain situation, Putin made a calculated decision that an assertion of indisputable power was the sine qua non. Maybe he was wrong, for all kinds of reasons. But as someone committed to non-violence, I’m still not sure that even on the question of morality — in a world where an unimpeded U.S. has been allowed to go on a bloody rampage around the globe for decades, with no relief in sight — that it is as obviously black and white in the way many want to see it, or that less bloodshed lay ahead on that path not taken. After all, we are where we are today because tools of the West’s military-industrial-complex governments foolishly imagined that “peacefully” expanding a threat like NATO was cost free.

Posted by: Emily Dickinson | Feb 25 2022 23:40 utc | 122

#119
“plus western Ukraine won’t be touched”
It won’t be left to Nato, no point in doing that now.

Posted by: Tito | Feb 25 2022 23:41 utc | 123

USNATO is activating a response force for the first time in history. This means absolutely squat!
What worries me are false flags and crazies in the U.S. and Ukraine calling for a no fly over Ukraine. F#CK them!

Posted by: Circe | Feb 25 2022 23:50 utc | 125

An excellent editorial recap of the situation up to yesterday’s intervention that’s just matter-0f-factm ma’am concludes:
“Russia has for years warned that U.S. and NATO aggression was posing a critical danger to international security and had to stop. The revoking of arms control treaties by the U.S. (the ABM, INF, Open Skies Treaty) and the expansion of missile threats near Russia’s borders were no longer tolerable. Ukraine is really just one element of the bigger picture. But this week, Russia has moved finally to stop the aggression. It is a historic watershed.
“Moscow says that its aim is to deNazify and demilitarize an illegitimate NATO-backed regime in Kiev. It says it has no intention to occupy Ukraine. As of this writing, Moscow has indicated it is open to negotiating as it always has been. What Russia is seeking is a more comprehensive security agreement with the U.S. and NATO for Europe.
“More widely, the United States must also end its belligerent ideological view of Russia and China as enemies. The U.S. has to come to terms with a multipolar world order in which its unilateral diktat is no longer tenable, legally, politically, or morally. That is the ultimate challenge for international peace and security.”
Most revealing and extremely important are the three mentions of the complicit nature of Western media:
“The United States-backed coup d’état in Ukraine in 2014 – assisted by NATO and the European Union – was just one link in a long chain of aggression. But a link that was particularly unacceptable to Russia given the proximity. The coup regime installed in Kiev was animated by extreme anti-Russia and Neo-Nazi politics, facts that are omitted by Western media. This was not an accident. The purpose of the coup was to make Ukraine a catspaw against Russia. The flaunting of possible NATO membership and the prospective installation of American missiles in Ukraine on Russia’s border was a red line for Moscow.
For eight years, the U.S. and NATO-sponsored Kiev regime has waged a genocidal war against the Russian population in the Donbass region of southeast Ukraine. Again, Western media ignored this appalling reality. The hatred and barbarity of Kiev’s ‘anti-terror operation’ were unleashed by Vice President Joe Biden in 2014 during the Obama administration when he was the point man for Washington to Ukraine. By the way, during many visits to that country, Biden also made a lot of profitable shady business for his son on the side….
“Western media have systematically concealed the global problem of U.S. and NATO aggression. The misinformation and disinformation are manifest with claims that Russia is embarked on ‘a barbaric venture’ and ‘unprovoked war’. To claim ‘unprovoked’ betrays extreme ignorance of the situation.”
IMO, every western media CEO and board of directors are accomplices to the criminal activities noted above and the many that aren’t and ought to be hunted down globally, arrested, tried for their crimes and convicted when found guilty. And of course, the same goes for the whole slew of western politicians and NATO officials. They differ in no ways from Hitler’s WW2 cabal.
And that brings me to the most odious task, and that’s to qualify the Outlaw US Empire as Fascist. IMO, no other conclusion’s possible.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2022 23:54 utc | 126

RC213V | Feb 25 2022 23:23 utc | 113
There was a report earlier in the week that the undercarriage of the TB-2 drone was not very strong and needed a good quality runway. Unfortunately there were few of then in Ukraine. Following the onslaught on UaAF airfielsd thaere are now probably none. Also the Russians targeted the locations of the TB-2s. It is therefore, as one would have expected, unlikely that the drones had any effect at all as they were up against a proper adversary. On the other hand Russia has deployed a lot of drones.

Posted by: JohninMK | Feb 26 2022 0:00 utc | 127

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/mapviewer/index.html?webmap=e9f441cc2bd94344a94fdb1f565a42ba
Mapping the conflict

Posted by: D0ng | Feb 26 2022 0:00 utc | 128

Jpc @106
Yes. I said about the same @64. Putin’s stated goals are demilitarization and denazification. He does not want to occupy.
In ordinary political science if 1% of the population flat refuses to comply consent of the governed collapses. In a military situation you would need more than that. If there are even 100,000 residents in Kiev ready to fight the Russian offensive will stall out. A million in the country and it will be a slow war. Putin knows that much. He surely remembers the Chechen wars. One third of Chechnya’s population was killed. That happened with full support of the other 2/3, who had figured out they would all die if the Wahhabi nut jobs were not eliminated. Nothing that extreme is desired, it will not happen. But sure, if there are more true believer Nazis than anticipated and they are ready to die ….
Looking at who is showing up to collect the carbines and ammo being passed out to civilians it does look like the Nazis are very westernized professional managerial class types. Their kids are the ones in Azov. Neither group is going to fight. When the Chechens do the door to door in Kiev – that is the plan – a small few will shoot through the door. Most will only hope they hid the gun well enough.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 26 2022 0:01 utc | 129

Vladimir Pozner: How the United States Created Vladimir Putin.
Worth every minute to listen to this detailed and objective lecture about how relationship between Russia/Putin and US evolved since the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

Posted by: lulu | Feb 26 2022 0:04 utc | 130

In the ongoing sesion of the UNSC, statments by Russian representative Nebenzia are not heard on simultaneous translation, one constitutes a real novelty in the UN.
Is it a boicot by the UN seat on the Russian part to not be heard by the pople in the world
BTW, the representative of Ukraine made a total show on palying the victim, calling for the Hague to judge Russia and to all the organizations in the world including the Council of Europe to expel the Russians. Crying wolf on the number of people being killed.
It is a joke, when this government came as a result of a violent coup and have alughtered so afr some deozens of thousand of its own citizens in the Eastern regions.
We are assisting at the end of International Law, from here the deluge….

Posted by: Givi | Feb 26 2022 0:05 utc | 131

One wonders why this show was not put in place by the Russians every time the US invaded a country.
Now the representative on the US giving lessons on international law and respect for the UN chart.
This woman whose country overthrew the legitimate government of Ukraine…and before a unumbered of others

Posted by: Givi | Feb 26 2022 0:10 utc | 132

…there is no need for haste.
Posted by: too scents | Feb 25 2022 19:02 utc | 3
every second they are there is an extreme risk. i am a 1 out of 10 barfly at best but that seems very obvious?!
it is hard for me to understand exactly what occurs in the following clips – please be aware that people die in this footage and keep this in mind if you choose to comment
this looks bad: https://emalm.com/?v=s2A3I
alt view with bit more context: https://emalm.com/?v=wk9Ga
https://emalm.com/?vid is one of very few sites that is quick and allows anonymous uploads without any registration

Posted by: Rae | Feb 26 2022 0:10 utc | 133

Sure. I’ve already seen video of one case where a family in a jeep was shot up by armed civilians, because they suspected that these were Russian saboteurs. They of course filmed the event themselves, congratulating each other for a job well done over their dead bodies.
Posted by: Skiffer | Feb 25 2022 21:06 utc | 51
The addiction of contemporary wannabe (and actual) terrorist to make selfies etc. is tragic on one hand, but in the longer term, makes it relatively easy to get rid of them.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 26 2022 0:14 utc | 134

After the representative of the US ended the presser, loud laughing were heard, along with sounding verbiage, as if for these people trying to throw out a country amongst those who have most respected International Law would be a matter of a pub conversation and not a serious issue of which any sane honest person would show at least somehow somber…even when not in agreement with the Russians on this issue…
It is obvious that Russia really does not pertain to this “distinguished club”…
It is obvious also that we are in deep trouble in the West, watching who is in charge, it was like the school bully and very tiny cowardly people surrounding her, all, including the representative of Ukraine ( which for the manners must be gay..) showed to be as insignificant as the countries they represent…All there, so close, with their masks on, sweating the hell out, trying to appear in the photo…

Posted by: Givi | Feb 26 2022 0:20 utc | 135

@ lulu #129
That lecture is classic! I refer to it very often nowadays when people call me a “putin versteher” (smear meaning putin understander). He is a very rational and cold and calculating man. People should not underestimate him.
I prefer this lecture by John Mearsheimer: Best Advice to Solve the Russia-Ukraine Crisis by John J. Mearsheimer
@ Virgile # 116
Thanks for the link. Seems spot on.
Here’s Scott Ritter giving his thoughts on what’s happening and what may happen: NATO Too Weak to Face Russia: Scott Ritter on Russian Offensive

Posted by: Gehennah | Feb 26 2022 0:24 utc | 136

@ Oriental Voice 90
If you see this event as an unprovoked invasion of a country, you’re . . .
Anyone who is a slave to the MSM sees it that way. . . google “unprovoked invasion” and see that it came from the US warmongers . .of course if they say it, the opposite is true . . the invasion was of course provoked by the US and its NATO puppets by wanting to extend NATO into Russia’s bailiwick.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 26 2022 0:29 utc | 137

@ lulu | Feb 25 2022 23:27 utc | 115… thanks for the link.. everyone ought to consider it..
@ Virgile | Feb 25 2022 23:28 utc | 116 thanks for sharing… i have a problem with this line – War wasn’t forced on Putin. – i suppose it is a matter of speaking.. i suppose russia could have waited a few years for the shit to hit the fan… to me it is like watching a train wreck about to take place… is it wrong for someone to try to stop it?
Gehennah | Feb 26 2022 0:24 utc | 135 – first link sums up my view on this…. i think war was indeed forced on putin.. the west – usa-nato – have been intent on it for many years, but especially the last few…. was was indeed forced on putin as i see it.. it was only a matter of time and putin didn’t wait…

Posted by: james | Feb 26 2022 0:32 utc | 138

Emily Dickinson #121 –
I agree that we have no idea what the final outcome of this effort is going to be. And I completely accept and appreciate the concept of re-establishing deterrence. Putin did make clear that this is not something he wanted to do; this is something he felt he had to.
But there’s too much of the “sacrificing the child for the greater good” in all this. To commit an immoral act, which initiating a war of aggression is after all, can’t be justified by the greater good argument, at least I feel. I was never one for utilitarian arguments. And, btw, I fully take your and others’s point that the western side of the equation is completely hypocritical and has done the same and much much worse repeatedly over the past decades from Korea and Vietnam to Iraq and Syria and Libya and the former Yugoslavia. But just because they are hypocrites does not mean Russia is right.
Finally, I just feel very bad for the common Ukrainian citizens who will be hurt and killed and whose livelihoods will be destroyed. Living next to global powers is no picnic, that’s for sure.

Posted by: Caliman | Feb 26 2022 0:37 utc | 139

All those javelins and toys will end up in the EU at a latter date. Poland, Lithuania and company will regret sending NATO weapons to Ukraine because it will most likely be used against them with Russia saying its not us, ‘see the weapons used were yours’.

Posted by: bricks | Feb 26 2022 0:37 utc | 140

@NoWar | Feb 25 2022 20:34 utc | 34
NoWar, your name is an expression of my lifelong pacifism, but I side with Putin in this struggle against Nazism. I agree with those who believe he was forced into this decision by the increased attacks against the Donbas, the refusal to fulfill the Minsk agreement as signed, and the threat to acquire nuclear weapons as spoken this week by Zelensky, whose announcement to take back Crimea and Donbas by force last Spring started this crisis. A Nazi military with nukes is an unacceptable prospect.
Putin clearly stated that his concern was about the 5-7 minutes that it would take for nuclear-armed missiles to reach his country’s capitol if launched from Ukraine. It is too short a time in which to make a responsible decision whether to launch mutually assured destruction, as he explained, and therefore it endangers everyone on earth.
U.S. leadership appears to believe he would not respond that quickly and that the U.S. would acquire Russia, restoring a Yeltsin in waiting. But the Russian government has stated they would launch MAD in response to such an attack. I agree with Putin that this brinkmanship endangers all life on earth.
As to whether the Nazi military forces in Ukraine are a joke or the real thing, I believe reports of their oppression and ethnic cleansing of Russian Ukrainians, their violence, and their rhetoric as published online.
You are not the only person who wonders about the willingness of purportedly Jewish people to fund, arm, train, and consort with Nazi military forces. As an American, I am permanently stunned by the fact that, not only the leadership of the State Dept., but my whole Federal government is comfortable with it! But then, they are willing to risk MAD as well.
As for Putin being anti-gay, Obama and Biden both said they were uncomfortable with gay marriage (Obama said it was “a stretch” for him, and Biden blamed it on his Church,) but they both said they would support whatever the Supreme Court decided. Fortunately the Court decided for gay marriage, but if it hadn’t, they would have supported that too.
And as for political prisoners, we have Julian Assange.
Putin’s logic makes sense to me, and I know my own country’s history of plundering Russia during our proudly named Shock Doctrine period. I hate that this is happening, but I understand why Putin has had to do it.

Posted by: Linda Wood | Feb 26 2022 0:40 utc | 141

Either Ukie military or local authorities have distributed weapons willy-nilly to long lines of civilians in Kiev without asking for permits to carry or identification. So criminals, and radicals can end up carrying. Looting and attacks on persons considered Russian sympathizers have already started with law enforcement missing in action.
This uncontrolled lawlessness is going to turn Kiev into the wild, wild west. When the Russians enter there will be a chaotic situation where they will be targeted by civilians with weapons that are killing other civilians and will be blamed for civilian deaths.
I hope they have a strategy to deal with this.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 26 2022 0:40 utc | 142

@karlof1 95
The car industry is particularly vulnerable to export restrictions and any further problems for chip manufacture’.”
Yes, take Ford, for example, which is already suffering from semiconducter shortages. Ford is not taking any more orders (many unfilled) until August for its new Maverick, truck of the year, because of these shortages especially in its hybrid version. Ford said they were shifting over to solely manufacturing its more profitable trucks, like the F-150 pickup. . . And now today comes the bad news from Ford Kansas City: “Chip shortage shuts down Ford’s F-150 line at Claycomo” . .they ain’t seen nuthin’ yet, perhaps.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 26 2022 0:41 utc | 143

I’d have gone in fast, blitzkrieg style, double tap anything military and related, take no prisoners, lay down your arms let you walk home, if not, die in battle. go straight for for top, the juggler Zelensky and his enablers, the Neo Nazi’s, the war criminals, the bio labs.

Posted by: Hannibal | Feb 26 2022 0:47 utc | 144

In response to Circe@141,
According to the Saker, the Russian strategy will be not to enter any cities, but to let anyone who wants to leave to do so and negotiate with anyone left who wants to organize police action. Sounds like a sound plan in theory, but hardly quick.

Posted by: Skiffer | Feb 26 2022 0:47 utc | 145

The position the Ukrainian military takes is extremely important. The only thing that might redeem what I see as an incredibly stupid invasion would be a pre-negotiated agreement with elements of the Ukie military to support a neutral position for the country after the current military operation is largely complete. The thing that distinguishes successful regime change is establishing a reliable, accommodating, government with local support which has firm control over a loyal and competent local military/security apparatus. This is the nexus around which long term success or failure turns. Alliance with a competent proxy local military is essential after victory. Foreign forces will not do. This was the downfall in Iraq and Afghanistan. This sort of alliance with local proxy forces typically requires years to develop. I’m hoping the Russians have done this, and have Ukie generals and formations lined up to step in when the dust settles. Otherwise, the Russians are going to have a serious mess on their hands. I trust they have thought thru…”And then what?…” Zircons are not a relevant answer.

Posted by: Rodrigo | Feb 26 2022 0:50 utc | 146

@ Linda Wood 140
Yes, right on regarding the Russia’s need to do something because of US actions.
On “As an American, I am permanently stunned by the fact that, not only the leadership of the State Dept., but my whole Federal government is comfortable with . . Nazi military forces” the US will side with any faction which promotes its evil strategies. Washington spawned ISIS in the Middle east, also supported al Qaeda (created by the US in Afghanistan), in Syria, and others.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 26 2022 0:51 utc | 147

@ Caliman | Feb 26 2022 0:37 utc | 138… i am curious how you would have approached this if you were russia? would you have waited, and if so – until when? thanks..

Posted by: james | Feb 26 2022 0:59 utc | 148

Caliman @138
Thank you for your comment. I too feel for the Ukrainian people–which is not to say that I didn’t also feel for the citizens of the LDNR. War is always a tragedy, even if sometimes a necessity. I do not know if this war, at this scale, was truly necessary. I do not know if it is moral. I do understand its rationale; I do believe that the US would ensure this outcome eventually; I believe that Putin and the other Russian leaders understand this and believed that this was their best chance to act. But war is always a tragedy.

Posted by: WJ | Feb 26 2022 1:05 utc | 149

Live Social media mapping applet pulling reporting from within Ukraine.
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/LiveMaps/index.html?appid=b92d26f0f1554fac81940a4cf232839a

Posted by: D0ng | Feb 26 2022 1:07 utc | 150

that was… eerily cinematographic?…
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/22912
that said, a lone helo destroying AD convoy… that’s kind of a shame… AD convoy is what should be hunting helos

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 26 2022 1:12 utc | 151

@Caliman 138
I appreciate your thoughtful comments. Were it that my (American) government shared your concerns for the people in Ukraine. The real error in my own comments was stating that the West’s governments were foolishly imagining that expanding NATO would be cost free — when, in fact, the evidence leaves only one conclusion: A ruthless U.S. was working feverishly to provoke Russia, all the time knowing that they (the U.S.) would cruelly leave Ukraine to suffer its fate alone. Talk about “sacrificing the child for the greater good.” As so often, the cost is being paid by one of America’s hapless wards.

Posted by: Emily Dickinson | Feb 26 2022 1:16 utc | 152

@144 Skiffer
First, how can the Russian military negotiate with those civilians who end up staying to have them organize police action if they don’t enter Kiev city?
When Americans entered Baghdad there was massive uncontrolled looting and lawlessness and for the most part the civilians in Baghdad were not hostile at least at the beginning.
However, the Russian military will face an armed hostile civilian population who are being trained to throw molotov cocktails. They can’t negotiate anything under those conditions.
Of course if the military only occupy government buildings…they won’t have to engage with civilians all that much, but what if civilians occupy the government buildings?
They just mentioned the armed civilians on CNN.
DAMN YOU CNN! Civilians armed with AK’s and molotov cocktails are no longer civilians, they’re a militia!

Posted by: Circe | Feb 26 2022 1:27 utc | 153

@NoWar
This suburban morality you’re scolding us with is either naive or ctrl-x straight from the Guardian. Your reduction of human behaviour to a series of Manichean rational-actor choices makes me think you studied history at LucasFilm U. History has no morality, just groups of human beings pursuing interests within the limits of conditions which are determined largely outside them (climate, geography, culture, context, etc). Of course we’re all anti-war; but we also know that our regional ambitions are not advanced by finger-wagging alone. One need only read Nietzsche’s Genealogy of Morals, First Essay, to grasp that ‘evil’ (and its synonyms) is the accusation of the resentful who would otherwise respond with equal force if they could. In other words, the weak are hypocrites: if you assault and rob me my trauma will be that I could not resist you. My aim is revenge and never to permit this to happen again. If I rant against you for being evil and bad a large part of this is really just my resentment against the fact that I was unable to prevent it. Putin has read Nietzsche; in fact, Putin has a deep grasp of the tradition of German philosophy from which Nietzsche descends including Marx. He knows one can doesn’t ‘hope for the best’, one finds better weapons. He knows that resentment is hypocrisy and that Russia was becoming guiltier of this by the year as NATO encroached on its old territories. At some point, my friend, you have to catch the punch, turn it back on the thrower and say ‘no, you don’t get to hurt me’.
This is what Putin is doing. It’s neither right nor wrong, just necessity and survival. We rarely do what we want only what we must. If it were the West we would not even be debating this. The arm-flapping, hair-pulling , chest-beating and wailing from NATO and the Western MSM is a metric only for their impotence and resentment at being unable to resist. They have to suck it up.
As to the question of neo-nazism in Ukraine, well, I have two words: Azov Battalion. The Black Sun is a white supremacist symbol, although, contrary to what some think, the Black Sun was never used as a symbol in the Third Reich (happy to be disproved though if someone knows). The Wolfsangel, however, definitely comes from Das Reich (2nd Waffen SS Division—not a Dutch Freiwillige outfit as someone suggested), a military unit well-known to the allies in France and Holland in 1944, and, I believe, was part of the vanguard at Kursk in ’43. They responsible for the massacre at Oradour-sur-Glane—it staggers me that the French would support a government whose paramilitaries bore the insignia of a unit who machine-gunned and burned alive 642 French villagers in June 1944. Finally, Azov members draw SS-runes and swastikas on their helmets and at gatherings revere the memory of the 14th SS-Freiwilligen Division “Galizien”. Let us not forget that many Ukies were happy to work as KZ guards and facilitated the grisly work of Operation Reinhard.
So NoWar, respectfully, grow up.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 26 2022 1:31 utc | 154

James – With my very imperfect knowledge of what’s possible, what I may have attempted from last week was to move a significant force into the recognized republics. Then announce in no uncertain terms that if there was any further action into the protected zones, a cordon sanitare would be created in Ukraine to eliminate threats and Ukraines offensive ability degraded. But I would attempt my best to keep to defense.
How realistic this would be, I admit that I have no idea. But at least attempting this would have been the more defensible plan?

Posted by: Caliman | Feb 26 2022 1:34 utc | 155

Obviously, Russians made a deliberate decision to minimize Ukrainian casualties, and that will inevitably slow their advance by few days. It should still be a lightning-fast campaign.
In the meantime, the West continues its self-immolation. One can easily see that the decision-making there is predominantly feminine in nature – as almost all levers of power are by now ceded to women – and is therefore too vindictive, emotional and irrational. Logic and cold calculus are gone. This can, and will, only end in disaster, especially for the EU. Without access to Russian market and Russian energy subsidy, Europe’s trade fundamentals will deteriorate markedly, and with it the ability of the European core to hold its periphery together. Germany – the most trade dependent of them all – is in particular peril. It will atrophy quickly.
For Russia, isolation is a blessing in disguise. It fixes a lot of errors committed in the process of WTO entry, fires up the kindling of real economic growth based on import substitution, and eviscerates the last vestiges of the “Dutch disease”.
What would surely kill Russia is its full integration into the global economy (as it would eventually reduce it to the raw
materials appendage of the West). Sanctions nip that possibility in the bud. Life in Russia is about to get harder, but a lot more rewarding. As they might say in Amex commercial, national pride is priceless.

Posted by: Venom | Feb 26 2022 1:35 utc | 156

I just finished publishing an article based on today’s Strategic Culture editorial, which I commented about @125 above, and one of my previous articles that asked the question, is the Outlaw US Empire Fascist or does it Merely Promote Fascism. The conclusion I draw is Russia’s invoking Article 51 to defend itself against the crossing of its Red Lines is ultimately a defense of humanity from a Fascist Outlaw US Empire. The next chapter in the Global Anti-Fascist War has commenced. It appears my conclusion’s confirmed by the events at today’s UNSC meeting if Givi’s reports @130, 131 and 134 are accurate.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2022 1:46 utc | 157

How Finland became neighbors with North Korea

  1. NATO ignores Russia’s security interest, wages economic war on Russia.
  2. Putin gets pissed. Decides to establish a New Soviet Union with Belorussia, “puppet” Ukraine and Kazakhstan.
  3. NATO starts a New Cold War against the New Soviet Union.
  4. North Korea decides to join the New Soviet Union.
  5. Putin retires. Kim Jong-un becomes his successor.

The lessons:

  • Security is mutual and indivisible.
  • Do not poke the bear.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Feb 26 2022 1:49 utc | 158

I hear a lot of people saying Putin is a dictator and tyrant and it’s his decision to attack Ukraine. It is Russia’s decision to do this. All the essential groups of the state agree. The Russian public has been horrified by the events of the last 8 years. Mr Putin has faced relentless pressure from the public, the press, and the Duma. But the time had to be right and that is Mr. Putin’s decision, after input from all the appropriate angencies. Once everything is ready Russia acts. Ukraine and the West were given the choice of talking to Mr. Lavrov or Mr. Shoigu. and they chose Mr. Shoigu. Wrong answer!!!. I know Russia is ready, I don’t think the west is.

Posted by: viking3 | Feb 26 2022 1:50 utc | 159

@154 Caliman | Feb 26 2022 1:34 utc – “attempting this would have been the more defensible plan?”
Honestly, I believe that if you will read President Putin’s address to his nation on Feb 24, describing the existential situation here with Ukraine as a NATO spearhead aiming for Russia’s heart, you will learn the dire situation Russia was in. And that situation was hiding behind the bodies of the civilians of Ukraine as human shields – the Ukrainians have been in a dire situation since 2014 when the Nazis took over.
If you will read Putin’s speech with an open heart and mind, I believe you will be completely answered as to the best tactics to employ here:
Address by the President of the Russian Federation – February 24, 2022
I hope you will see from reading this that there simply was no room left to maneuver, no way simply to support the republics without going out into the rest of Ukraine to de-nazify and disarm the existential threat that loomed insanely close, against Russia, against the republics, and against the entire, long suffering population of all of Ukraine.

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 26 2022 1:54 utc | 160

In response to Circe@152,
I don’t think the idea is to negotiate with civilians, but with whatever government, military or self-appointed structures that are interested in bringing order and preserving lives. There is no need to enter, occupy or conduct mopping up operations in city centers to do that. Radio, flyers, text messages, Internet services and all other methods of communication remain open, as are the main transit lanes for exiting out of the cities.
I vividly remember what the Saker was referring to in regard to Chechnya-II, when Russia at most lent support to local militias in conducting mop-up operations of their own cities — wide-spread banditism and chaos actually lends to such a strategy, since it is in the interest of all rational people to bring an end to it. As said, it takes time to organize, but other than that it is a sound tactic. I would at least not discount the possibility that Russia will push to negotiate without entering any city where they are likely to meet resistance.
An armed and even hostile civilian population is unlikely to even attempt to break the encirclement. At most we might, God forbid, expect acts of terrorism with the primary victims being other civilians.

Posted by: Skiffer | Feb 26 2022 1:56 utc | 161

Posted by: Circe | Feb 26 2022 0:40 utc | 141
reportedly politicians in Kiev still trying to score points on “brevely resisting invcasion”
new idea is said to be making and distributing Molotov cocktails
Molotov cocktails are surely best defense against cruise missiles
panopticon, asylum run by patients…
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/22925

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 26 2022 1:56 utc | 162

If I rant against you for being evil and bad a large part of this is really just my resentment against the fact that I was unable to prevent it
Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 26 2022 1:31 utc | 153
No, there are more to it.
It is also signal to peers.
Maybe for collective defense (cattle against lions/panthers, sealions against polar bears).
If not – then to hide or flee.
your rant makes a lot of sense, for the population, for the evolution.
But then you are currect that Russia’s rant largely fallen on deaf ear, with few exceptions. So was Gaddafi’s rant in UN.
And then we have a joke about “1001-st Chineese final warning” stemming from 1960-s. Our ranting could be much closer to reenacting that bitter joke ourselves.

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 26 2022 2:03 utc | 163

Patrick Armstrong, Canada’s most reliable Russia analyst has started looking at the situation in Ukraine. As always he is very good:
https://patrickarmstrong.ca/
His blog ends: “The new new world order was born two days ago.”

Posted by: bevin | Feb 26 2022 2:06 utc | 164

@ Caliman
I understand the rational (Minsk2 was delayed, NATO in Ukraine) for the invasion, but were all other means exhausted, before taking the decision to invade Ukraine? Russia could have made clear to obliterate the Ukrainian frontline from Russia, let LDNR go for the entire oblasts or put its soldiers at the frontline as peacekeepers (tripwire). Economically, Russia could have applied pressure on Germany by demanding to use the Russian SWIFT alternative for gas payments. Or Russia could have banned gas deliveries, if Germany hadnt pushed Ukraine to execute Minsk2. Putin could have told Macron and Scholz: “Guys, take care of Z or I will do 1, 2 and 3.” Russia could have kept moving military equipment around to make Western MSM go crazy. If Russia had dialed up her actions step after step, it would have been clear that all other options were exhausted. Why did the circle around Putin go for the sledgehammer and not the scalpel?

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Feb 26 2022 2:10 utc | 165

some idiot, maybe addict or psycho, waving arms. In the dead black night.
watchful Kiev citizens call authorities to come and dispatch the “air bombing corrector”
https://t.me/OpenUkraine/6851
i know, many westerners deem us Russian all paranoid, but this…

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 26 2022 2:13 utc | 166

farm ecologist @ 75 said:;
“I hate violence and consider myself a pacifist, but not to the extent that I think self-defence is immoral.”
“The US and its allies have been responsible for more death and destruction than perhaps anybody else in human history, and they won’t stop unless somebody stands up to them. The Ukraine Government has allowed itself to be led into an extremely stupid and dangerous situation, transforming the country into a US proxy state. I feel sorry for most of the people who live there.”
Couldn’t agree more, well-stated.

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 26 2022 2:14 utc | 167

People haven’t cared for eight years and the relentless propaganda is shallow by necessity which means if people actually begin to care now (which is unlikely) they’ll soon discover all kinds of problems with the narrative.
If all they do is to look at the last eight years of MSM nonsense they’ll find it won’t fit together. If they do more it all falls apart.
– – –
Isn’t it peculiar that it seems people in general nearly twenty years ago cared more about Saddam/Iraq or at least a potential WWIII than they do about Ukraine (and/or DPR and LPR or Russia or China or Iran or Venezuela or Syria or Cyprus or any of all the other countries mistreated) and now an arguably much more likely WWIII/US nuclear suicide?
Maybe whether or not they would ever admit it people simply trust Russia to be able to smack down the US if necessary? Hmm no, I don’t think most have any clue at all about any of that stuff.
So the stark difference remains an open question.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 26 2022 2:14 utc | 168

Okay, the Saker answered most of my concerns. His article is long, but worth the time and every word. I consider it top to bottom a must read at this time.
russian operation
The UKIE/USNATO propaganda machine will be running on all cylinders tomorrow and so will my bullshet meter. I will try to find time to crush their deception in my own humble way and so should everyone who has faith that Putin will succeed because this is not the lesser evil; facing up to USNATO once and for all is the greater good.
(Skiffer, Thanks for mentioning the Saker earlier. I just noticed your reply now. Will read and reply later if necessary.)

Posted by: Circe | Feb 26 2022 2:15 utc | 169

Putin could have told Macron and Scholz: “Guys, take care of Z or I will do 1, 2 and 3.”
Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Feb 26 2022 2:10 utc | 164
Adnd they would say “yes, we would work hard to convince him, but he is stubborn and it would take time” – then they would use that time to build defences for Ze that would make 1m2 and 3 impossible.
This game west played since EuroMaidan
Remenber even the treaty Poland, Germany and France made with Yanukobich, i think it was 20th deb 2014
They negotiated Yanukovich removes police, and they would remove aremd protesters.
However they actually used that time to organize armed assault at now defenseless Yanukovich.

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 26 2022 2:25 utc | 170

@ Caliman | Feb 26 2022 1:34 utc | 154…. thank you… i hear what you are saying and on the surface, i agree with you comments on this topic.. however as @ 159 grieved points out, the speech from putin on feb 24th appears to suggest that putin sees where this is going and is not content with half measures… it would be much worse then using a sledgehammer in a few years as i understand it… putin could have tried what @ 164 arne hartmann suggests and perhaps it might have worked.. however, my impression is that russia has been very patient since the dynamic of 2014 and recognized for some time the minsk agreement was completely dead..
but they had a few other wake up calls very recently with zelensky talking of acquiring nuclear weapons and neither the usa-uk or anyone saying anything to that.. perhaps it is the difference in taking a short range, verses a long range view… i don’t know if a scalpel would have worked after 2014 either… the west has been intent on using ukraine, as mearsheimer notes in the video that was linked by Gehennah | Feb 26 2022 0:24 utc | 135… mearsheimer made those comments in the video in sept 2015 – 6 and 1/2 years ago.. it is worth considering… if we have been traveling on this road for some time.. it has been going in a specific direction that serves the wests interests, but at the same time sacrifices russias security interests.. thanks for the conversation…
i share and appreciate @ Linda Wood | Feb 26 2022 0:40 utc | 140 post at this point..

Posted by: james | Feb 26 2022 2:28 utc | 171

Circe@168,
I defer to Saker for any future response, since I was paraphrasing his thoughts on the matter anyway. 😉 It’s not a bad take on what we might expect will take place, with precedent in Chechnya and, to some extent, also in Syria. However, to repeat myself, it’s not the sort of blitz-krieg over-by-Sunday strategy that many, myself included, would like to see. I readily admit that, at least in my case, it’s a desire primarily driven by emotions, since the situation makes me uncomfortable, and doing things the right way, by the numbers, addresses more important objectives than calming someone’s nerves.

Posted by: Skiffer | Feb 26 2022 2:32 utc | 172

Grieved #159 – Yes, Putin laid out his case well. And do not get me wrong that the primary issue here was the US/NATO refusal to grant Russia what she is due as a responsible global power. But even so, the case for war, right now, seems debatable at least, if not weak.
I think Arne Hartmann #164 says it perfectly. It just seems to me that the step by step procedure, while more expensive for Russia probably (potentially in lives and certainly in effort) would have been the moral and also propaganda effective way to go.
Offensive war against a nation that has not attacked us, while common by the US/UK/NATO bunch, is still as per Nuremberg a supreme crime … a crime against peace. If things turn out well, I’ll be glad to tell you all I was wrong. But I’m worried that many thousands will die and Ukraine will be wrecked and that this will play into NATO’s hands, reviving a moribund organization that should be on its last legs.

Posted by: Caliman | Feb 26 2022 2:34 utc | 173

Patroklos the black sun symbol was used by the nazi Thule society/cult and set in stone as a large floor mosaic in the SS Wewelsburg castle marking the supposed center of not only this world but also the center of connection to their mystic world and at least symbolically bringing the two together (so that they could gain cosmic power and alien help and blah blah blah lol).
The stonework is from the early 1940ies at the latest so it was likely created years before that. It is still there in the floor as far as I know.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 26 2022 2:36 utc | 174

CBC live report from Kiev – it is very quiet. They actually say “You could hear a pin drop.”
Remember this from Feb 6, 2022 ?:
Up to 50,000 civilian casualties and Ukraine’s capital, Kyiv, could fall in days if Russia mounts a full-scale invasion, report says
The UN has the actual numbers:
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/02/1112732
BTW, this UN article about the Russian intervention is illustrated by a photo captioned “A man stands in a school that was damaged by constant shelling in Oleksandrivka, near Donetsk, Ukraine.” which is in the Donetsk republic. I guess the UN could not find any images of damage caused by Russia.

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 26 2022 2:38 utc | 175

@ Circe 152
When Americans entered Baghdad there was massive uncontrolled looting and lawlessness and for the most part the civilians in Baghdad were not hostile at least at the beginning.
Then they were. It took the US Army, the ‘finest in the world,’ three years to pacify Baghdad.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 26 2022 2:54 utc | 176

the west is / was happy to wreck ukraine… that much i think it fairly certain, in spite of the natural desire to view the west in a favourable manner… please consider watching the link to John Mearsheimer @ 135…

Posted by: james | Feb 26 2022 2:56 utc | 177

RAE 132
who posted this video:
https://emalm.com/?v=wk9Ga
The two military vehicles shown in the video are members of an AD unit. The truck carries a two barreled AA whose gunner was killed after jumping from the rear. Apparently the driver was killed before the bend in the road and the truck takes an unguided course straight ahead.
The armored vehicle that runs over a civilian car is a Strela-10, an AD in use by the Ukraine but nor by Russia.
Some western “reporter” described it as a Russian armored vehicle mercilessly running over a civilian car with people inside.
The original video stated that Hohols (cossack therefore Ukrainian) were running over their Kin.

Posted by: CarlD | Feb 26 2022 2:56 utc | 178

“We are deploying elements of the NATO response force on land, at sea and in the air.”
Posted by: too scents | Feb 25 2022 19:48 utc | 16
Let’s be clear: “We are deploying on land, at sea and in the air” says nothing about deploying in Ukraine – that is not for NATO Chicken Forces. Instead, the relevant NATO forces have been ordered to go home and deploy in the safety of their living rooms since Stoltenberg doesn’t want his Chicken Bases to be targetted by the Russians.

Posted by: BM | Feb 26 2022 2:57 utc | 179

The internet is awash with numerous examples of false information that is suggesting or appearing to show footage of damaged or destroyed Ru Army equipment that is actually Ukr Army equipment. The Western MSM has a long history of falsifying the ground truth & I have one such perfect example to illustrate this for you here.
The ITN News clip begins with some sort of chaotic exchange of fire allegedly somewhere in Kiev. We are firstly shown an individual who is allegedly the ‘Commander’ (bereft of any kind of communications device of course with which to control his sub-unit??) who makes the comment that they are being engaged by a ‘sniper’. The sniper must be armed with a PKM or an AK type of weapon judging by the amount of fire in the background.
Then we are shown footage of a disorganised bunch of what I can only describe as civilians in paramilitary uniforms scurrying about like headless chickens on a bridge with some non-effective small arms fire in the background.
This then cuts to footage of an MTLB SA13 GOPHER TELAR vehicle careering though what we are told is a Kiev Street. We see it collide with a civilian car. Luckily the cars occupant survives the collision.
ITN of course makes the assessment that this vehicle IS Russian.
Finally, we are shown a long distance shot of allegedly dead Russian soldiers?? We know not who these poor souls are do we?
https://youtu.be/r87RmlyB3ks
Comment:
It carries none of the Tactical Recognition Markings being used by the Ru Armed Forces who are conducting the Special Operation inside the Ukraine today. The MTLB SA13 GOPHER TELAR was/is a Regimental level AAA Defence platform that in the Ru Army has been LARGELY REPLACED in frontline service by the 2K22 Tunguska/SA-19 GRISON platform which has been sighted within Ru Army formations operating inside the Ukraine.
Some pertinent questions for you to ask yourself…
1. Why, if this vehicle were an Ru Army AAA vehicle from a Regimental AAA Unit would it be speeding madly through an urban area not yet fully secured by Ru Forces? It is very lightly protected with just one medium machine gun for personal protection, it is not designed to travel away from the main body of a larger mechanised group on some lone suicide mission.
2. Why would an AAA vehicle be placed into a dense, urban area with high buildings which render its surveillance & tracking radar ineffective?
I present to you Exhibit A, an oblique view of the same incident:
https://youtu.be/3nG9yBX7MwI
Before the collision incident you will observe what looks like a speeding URAL Truck come under effective small arms fire from what look like individuals in what appears to be a Ukrainian Uniform. One of these individuals firing on the URAL Truck can be observed standing next to a white van. On the back of the URAL Truck is a ZSU23/2 double barrel AAA Gun. They type of which is common place in the Middle East on the back of ‘Technical’ type vehicles. The URAL Truck clearly sustains some damage as it receives fire & the driver most likely is injured/incapacitated/killed.
One individual in what appears to be a Ukrainian Uniform the back of the truck also receives direct fire & appears to be seriously injured as he falls to the ground on the right side of the URAL Truck. A few seconds later he is engaged by a further volley of lethal small arms fire.
The individual standing next to the white van then moves his position & covers the dead individual on the ground by the URAL Truck.
At the top of the frame we see a fleeting image of an MTLB chassis speeding past from left to right. Then the camera pans out & we are shown an oblique view of the same incident as shown by the ITN News clip.
Comment:
I suspect this is footage of a fleeing/deserting Ukrainian Army Unit (possibly of AAA origin & therefore not a frontline combat unit?). They are ambushed/engaged & prevented from fleeing – well some of them are by a Ukrainian SBU Unit/Ukrainian Army/Militia.
Just a small example of the massive pile of lies the Western Mainstream Media perpetuate on a daily basis.
Finally….
The UK SoS For Defence Ben Wallace. A former Capt in The Foot Guards. One day, soon, I hope somebody somewhere remembers these ridiculous comments & he is publicly called out because of them….
https://youtu.be/jnc6Dp70xnA
https://youtu.be/zJy2Tgtsn5M
Comment:
I personally never liked working with Officers from the Household Division. I found them incredibly arrogant, tactically inept poor field soldiers, scruffy whilst on camp whom were legends in their own NAAAFI Break.

Posted by: Per Terram | Feb 26 2022 3:03 utc | 180

@Arne Hartmann 64
Why did the circle around Putin go for the sledgehammer and not the scalpel?
Because the real problem is the people who control Ukraine, the anti-Russia neo-Nazis. They are embedded and wouldn’t come to the border and accept punishment. By invading, Russia can kill these US allies. And Victoria Nuland won’t be there handing out cookies this time.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 26 2022 3:05 utc | 181

Who are these ‘Dudes?’
https://youtu.be/ZcYlnXii3fE
I wonder???

Posted by: Per Terram | Feb 26 2022 3:07 utc | 182

I would recommend to everyone to listen to the interview that Richard Medhurst had with Scott Ritter, who made a very accurate assessment of what is going on now. He was one of the first to call this an invasion when many of “us” were still thinking this was a false flag by the Americans. So, he called like it is while most of us were still scratching our heads being caught off guard.
Anyway, he also recognized that, even though it is strictly speaking an illegal invasion, there was not much that Putin could do given that NATO operates outside of the framework of international law. I’m no legal expert by any means, so I don’t know if this is true, but it seems to me that if it is, he has a very good point. We all know that the U.S., a signatory of the UN charter and, therefore, bound to follow international law, constantly breaks that law, and this makes it an outlaw state. But, what about NATO? Is NATO itself subject to international law? I don’t mean its constituent members; they are indeed subject. I mean the military alliance itself, as an entity over and above its constituent members—is it bound by international law? Because if not, how do you deal with a menace that cannot be coerced by the rules? Saying that Putin should not have broken the peace and instead followed the strict letter of the law begs the question: what do you do when your enemy functions outside of that framework?

Posted by: AnalyticMind | Feb 26 2022 3:10 utc | 183

@Patroklos 153
Wasn’t the “Black Sun” symbol drawn in one of the rooms of the Wewelsburg castle, which was supposedly chosen by Himmler as “The center of the new world”?

Posted by: Secan | Feb 26 2022 3:11 utc | 184

Life is too short to be taken seriously, I say.
A resolution calling to kick Russia off the U.N. Security Council for its invasion of Ukraine — which has virtually no chance of being enforced — is circulating among House members from both parties, Axios has learned. . . Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.), who sits on the House Armed Services Committee, told Axios in an interview he supports the resolution.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 26 2022 3:13 utc | 185

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 26 2022 2:36 utc | 173
Well there you go. Wow. I’ve checked out Wewelsburg before and know how significant it was to Himmler’s Jesuit-style vision for the SS, but I had not noticed the Black Sun on the floor before! Thanks for this indeed! We can therefore add this to the charge sheet against Azov. I hope Putin burns them out root and branch.
But also let me restate my last point more straightforwardly:
* The insignia of the Azov Battalion is the Wolfsangel, Black Sun and (significantly smaller) the Ukrainian trident:
* The insignia of 2nd Waffen-SS Division “Das Reich” was the Wolfsangel
* A company of the 2nd Waffen-SS Division “Das Reich” was responsible for the massacre at Oradour-sur-Glane.
* The village of Oradour has been preserved as a memorial to the event, one of the countless atrocities committed by these units.
* It is a source of complete mystery to me why Macron would not insist on the denunciation of these psychos as a condition of French support, and cite this massacre as a reason.
* The activities of these units were especially brutal and widespread on the Ostfront (as we all know but conveniently forget here) as famously depicted in the late-Soviet era film “Come and See” (1985), which is based on the anti-partisan actions of the Dirlewanger Brigade in Belarus, not more than a few hundred kms north of Kiev (or Kyiv, or whatever these ethnic fanatics want to call it).
* I put the Azov Battalion in exactly the same category of this outfit of criminals, sadists, child-rapists and sociopaths.
* The scumbag who murdered scores in NZ was a sympathizer.
I’m not going to continue because I’m largely preaching to the converted here. But a few seem to think these Ukrainians are all innocent victims of aggression.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 26 2022 3:17 utc | 186

Embedding links is fiddly and boring, but in the above just delete the ‘/’ at the end of the URL to get them. Not sure why I bother though. The anti-Russians will find facts inconvenient and ignore this any way…

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 26 2022 3:23 utc | 187

to RC213V at #113
“It will be interesting find out how effective the Turkish drones have been, when up against a competent enemy and Russias array of SAMs and EWs.”
don’t hold your breath.
they and their airfield whatever were all destroyed the first day

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 26 2022 3:25 utc | 188

D @ 121 said;”After all, we are where we are today because tools of the West’s military-industrial-complex governments foolishly imagined that “peacefully” expanding a threat like NATO was cost free.”
karlof1 @ 125 said;”The coup regime installed in Kiev was animated by extreme anti-Russia and Neo-Nazi politics, facts that are omitted by Western media. This was not an accident. The purpose of the coup was to make Ukraine a catspaw against Russia. The flaunting of possible NATO membership and the prospective installation of American missiles in Ukraine on Russia’s border was a red line for Moscow.”
I know some things stated here are redundant, but sometimes, truthful statements need repetition..

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 26 2022 3:27 utc | 189

I think there are bigger long term issues here that almost no one perceives.
The US is addicted to war as shown by nearly every year of its history – and it’s gotten worse. They’ve gone from the nobility of fighting fascism and communism to the Iraq war based on a hoax – and then worse than that by destroying Libya for no particular reason.
There is no painless way to stop this. The Military Industrial Complex won’t allow it.
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/ukraine-demands-transatlantic-course-correction-200818
As above, a few sane people are getting frightened by ‘experts’ who suggest triggering nuclear war by behaving as “hyper emotional juveniles” !
The Ukraine people deserve better lives than this mess. OTOH, I see this as a necessary sacrifice to bring US/NATO militarism to an end. It’s not that Russia or China are ‘nice’, it’s that global balance needs to be established – to save the human race from hair trigger hostility from a “wounded cornered tiger” superpower. God Speed to Putin, get it over with as painlessly as possible.

Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 26 2022 3:28 utc | 190

Rep. Smith is going to introduce legislation to arm the Neonazi in Ukraine with more weapons.
These clowns are incompetent.
It seems to me that they are pushing for a world war.
B, I would like to get your analysis on what you think might happen if the US continues with its provocations.
Seems the US gov enjoys arming and funding terrorists for their proxy wars
But something tells me that this is NOT what Russia will tolerate on its border.
Also I’m seeing reports of Nazis using Ukrainians as human shields. Russia seems to be aware of this and maybe that is the reason they are not going balls to the wall in getting Ukie nazis dead or out of Ukraine.
Love your updates!

Posted by: Kay | Feb 26 2022 3:36 utc | 191

@ AnalyticMind 182
it is strictly speaking an illegal invasion
Really? What law, and has it applied to any other country, say the US, for example.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 26 2022 3:41 utc | 192

AnalyticMind | Feb 26 2022 3:10 utc | 182 “, even though it is strictly speaking an illegal invasion,”
Best you read the UN charter and various other stuff at the UN, also take not of moves by Russia to recognise DPR and LPR as independent states. Everything is in accordance with the UN charter and international law. Look up right of self determination. It is a big part of UN charter. This is not even R2P bullshit which US used to destroy Yugoslavia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 26 2022 3:41 utc | 193

@ Kay 190
Rep. Smith is going to introduce legislation . .
Let’s not get carried away, that’s one out of 435 House members.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 26 2022 3:44 utc | 194

Serious international disputes should be referred to the UN for help in peaceful resolution, but of course that is never done, especially by the US. In this case the discussions were international, US and Russia. Russia got nowhere with it.
NATO document, October 2021
Myth 3: Ukraine cannot join NATO
Fact: NATO Allies welcome Ukraine’s aspirations to join NATO and they stand by the decision made at the 2008 Bucharest Summit that Ukraine will become a member of the Alliance.
Decisions regarding NATO membership are up to each individual applicant and the 30 NATO Allies. Russia has no right to intervene and cannot veto such a process.
We reject any idea of spheres of influence in Europe – they are part of history and should remain part of history. Like every country, Ukraine has the sovereign right to choose its own security arrangements. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 26 2022 3:49 utc | 195

Posted by: AnalyticMind | Feb 26 2022 3:10 utc | 182
“The framework of international law” LMAO – Since when has the US and its “rules based order” cared about actual international law?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 26 2022 3:56 utc | 196

@Don Bacon 191
@Peter AU1 192
Just to clarify, I am not saying that it IS an illegal invasion. That is Scott Ritter’s assessment. As I said, I’m not a legal expert, so I don’t know about the legality of the Russian operation. My point is that it’s not possible to follow the rules to a t when you face an opponent that is not only an open outlaw (US) but also cannot be coerced by law (NATO).

Posted by: AnalyticMind | Feb 26 2022 3:57 utc | 197

tip: good info on Ukraine Nazis at the Ukraine open thread.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 26 2022 4:14 utc | 198

MKB goes hard on Germany:
Germany Can No Longer Be Put Down

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 26 2022 4:23 utc | 199

@ Per Terram 179 and @ AnalyticMind 182… thanks for your posts… interesting questions about nato and etc.. i don’t actually know..

Posted by: james | Feb 26 2022 4:29 utc | 200