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January 16, 2022

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2022-005

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

Best zinger quote:

> Speaking about the possibility of holding a separate dialogue with the EU independently from the United States and NATO, one should ask the United States and NATO whether they will allow the EU to take any independent action. <

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Other issues:

Ukraine:

Russia has declared that it has no interest to go to war in Ukraine.

Meanwhile the U.S. is spewing out obvious bullshit about a Russian war on Ukraine.

Caitlin Johnstone ⏳ @caitoz - 12:19 AM · Jan 16, 2022
Remember kids: false flags are crazy conspiracy theories that only ridiculous crackpots believe in, except when they're reported as fact in anonymously-sourced stories by news outlets who've lied to you about every war.
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Repeating myself here but I expect an Ukrainian military operation against the Donbas rebels starting of February 3/4 when Putin is on his way to Beijing. Russia will watch a day or two to let everyone recognize the Ukrainian attack for what it is. It will then unleash its air force and artillery to destroy the Ukrainian military. It will be over in less than a week.

Mixed stuff:

Use as open thread ...

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So, USA wants to publicly pretend that Ukraine is practically NATO
and that Russia is in big trouble if it steps one foot past the established line?

USA is leaving out some important parts in its narrative.
I won’t go through them, as Wes lol know them.

If I was Putin, I’d do this like he did Crimea.
Force a referendum. However it needs to be done.
Just get it done

This isn’t an anschluss. There is no prelude to ww3.
Putin is not Hitler, and theproposed land isn’t meant to be exploited.
It’s meant to be as stable border as Russia can get.

What is so hard to decipher about this, state dept, MSM and Putin haters?

Posted by: Cadence calls | Jan 17 2022 5:35 utc | 101

@CarlD | Jan 17 2022 1:53 utc | 78

However, seriously, he should be in an asylum as he does nothing to promote peace for his people.

Stoltenberg is Quisling in fear of losing his job when NATO falls apart as it will. Stoltenberg is also in fear of the day when the realities if 22. July 2011 becomes clear.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 17 2022 6:12 utc | 102

@ Jen | Jan 17 2022 5:21 utc | 100 with the ethno-nationalist compendium.....nice

Thanks for that.

I may be a dreamer but I am not the only one....and I dream in reality rather than obfuscatory myths. I credit my year spent in college with a cultural anthropologist studying the future for my reality/myth bias.

Our species has potential if we can separate and relegate myth and reality to the proper perspective and value in society.

Patriarchal centered society stabilized about the same time that patriarchal monotheism took root in the ME.....Sumerian era.

My study of the history of money/finance tells me that Hand, the Invisible and the God of Mammon religion were born in the same era. I posit that Hand, the Invisible has never been an individual, per se, even in cases where religions were creating coinage/money. Instead, Hand was those (initially governments) that facilitated whatever the current flavor of the next step up from barter looked like at the time (clay tablets, coinage, tally sticks, precious metals, paper, etc.

At some point the traders between countries, private individuals, became the modern day BIS between countries where, for example, the gold/silver price ratio in one part of the world was different than in another and taken advantage of for over a thousand years by the traders.

Those "traders" are who backed the European kings wars and started the whole banking system we have now.....and exist now behind the scenes moving the various levers of international finance while us lesser beings spew textual white noise like this on international blogs.....

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 17 2022 6:13 utc | 103

@Kiza | Jan 17 2022 0:43 utc | 73

Thank you, much appreciated information!

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 17 2022 6:13 utc | 104

@Jen | Jan 17 2022 2:01 utc | 82

One irony must surely be that Novak Djokovic is the first major sports athlete to be banned from competing in an international sports tournament because he won't take a drug that may cause problems in the short term for him as an athlete (because tennis is as much an endurance sport as it is a sport dependent on athleticism) and likely to have long-term consequences for people of his generation and younger who take it.

You know that the Russians are banned from and/not allowed to display their flag in international sports events because they are accused (without real evidence) of taking drugs. This is collective punishment and applies also to athletes that are not even among the accused.

So now you have the opposite, Djocovic is banned from Australia Open for not taking drugs!

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 17 2022 6:27 utc | 105

Below is the latest Xinhuanet posting about Russia/USA

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MOSCOW, Jan. 16 (Xinhua) -- Russia will station troops on its own territory near the Ukrainian border due to tensions with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Sunday.

"We find it necessary to keep those troops due to a very tense situation and very unfriendly environment," Peskov said in an interview with U.S. broadcaster CNN.

Russia has to take measures of precaution in response to NATO military build-up, drills and frequent flights of fighter jets and reconnaissance planes near the Russian borders, he said.

However, Russia is not considering a military action even if negotiations with the United States and NATO on security guarantees fail, Peskov stressed.

Nevertheless, Russia is "ready to take countermeasures" if both sides cannot reach a consensus, he said.

Earlier this week, Russian diplomats held talks with the United States in Geneva, with the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe in Vienna, and then with NATO in Brussels. They all ended without any breakthrough.

Peskov told CNN that NATO is reluctant to promise that it will not grant Ukraine membership or deploy offensive weapons on the Ukrainian territory, which are part of Russia's red lines.
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Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 17 2022 6:39 utc | 106

Wouldn't it be a laugh if Russia could fly one of it's Tupolev-160's directly over the White House and Congress at supersonic speed, dropping a sack of potatoes over each, and protected by a squad of Su-57's and electronic warfare measures. The relevant security personnel on the US would be shitting in their pants.

Posted by: BM | Jan 17 2022 7:02 utc | 107

Rio Tinto, a martian* looking place in Huelva, southern Spain, the origin of that company's name. Tinto refers to red wine and to the color of that river, tinged in English but it also shares the root with tainted, and tainted they left Huelva province, the most contaminated place in Andalusia. All those corporations have pedigree. I've not been following the Djokovich saga but if he is against that corporation business in Serbia I'm all on his side.

https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200903-the-spanish-acidic-river-teaching-us-about-mars

Posted by: Paco | Jan 17 2022 7:15 utc | 108

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 17 2022 6:12 utc | 102
Hey Norweigan what would Stoltenberg's life be like when he retires from NATO? Would he go back to Norway? Does he have friends there? Are there gated communities in Norway? Do most Norweigans have an opinion of him?
Just curious. Wayinorway care to weigh in? I value both of you.

Posted by: migueljose | Jan 17 2022 11:18 utc | 109

correction to above waynorinorway.

Posted by: migueljose | Jan 17 2022 11:19 utc | 110

Posted by: migueljose | Jan 17 2022 11:18 utc | 109
"Wayinorway care to weigh in? I value both of you."

Heh, Weigh in or Wayin, doesn't matter.
I'll let Norwegian carry this one mostly except to pass on another good Pepe-ism from his
interview with Max blumenthal. Pepe had previously referred to Jens as 'spectacularly mediocre'.
Now he has come up with 'Jens Stultifyingberg'. I think he should be referred to just by his initials JQ (Jens Quisling).

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 17 2022 11:35 utc | 111

Posted by: Jen | Jan 17 2022 5:21 utc | 100

Like Foundations are not primarily for tax evasion schemes, right?

I wouldn't give a rat's ass about someone who works with a slave-driving company like UNIQLO...

Posted by: v | Jan 17 2022 11:40 utc | 112

Re Indy, why do to write it like an acronym as all caps if it isn't?

Re rest of this thread, I think the Russians are used to dealing with border raids etc for many centuries now thanks to tatars and the like, so if an insurgent movement is started they could no doubt handle this, but, I'd suggest that this would be more used to build sympathy in western publics ala muhajadeen, Rambo 3, especially if Russ retaliated by striking the command centres of such ops in Slovakia, Poland, however it might be questioned how do the elected governments of these countries not care about being dragged into such a conflict that would increasingly put their own populations at risk for the sake of further Anglo adventurism at little to no benefit to themselves, the doormat quality of the relationship could become all too emphatic.

Posted by: Lozhnaya | Jan 17 2022 12:53 utc | 113

Posted by: v | Jan 17 2022 11:40 utc | 112

Yes, I guess rabid ethno-nationalists know how to hire accountants who can advise on good tax breaks that deliver prime PR. Bill Gates has a foundation too. Doesn't make him a friend to humanity. Djokovic could be Mother Theresa for all I care. What I do know is that he paid to get three judges to listen to his appeal two days after the revocation of his visa. Some poor bastards on Nauru are still waiting for their Refugee Reviews 6 years later. Maybe he could have got a couple of them a quicker hearing while he was there. A nothing burger news story about a stoush between a corrupt incompetent government and a rich guy famous for hitting a ball somewhat accurately a good proportion of the time. MSM misdirection but mostly a cure for insomnia, like the tennis.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 17 2022 12:53 utc | 114

@migueljose | Jan 17 2022 11:18 utc | 109

Hey Norweigan what would Stoltenberg's life be like when he retires from NATO? Would he go back to Norway? Does he have friends there? Are there gated communities in Norway? Do most Norweigans have an opinion of him?
Just curious. Wayinorway care to weigh in? I value both of you.

Hi migueljose, I value your posts as well. I have to say that I am so upset with what has happened in my country the last few years, that I have stopped following local news. It really is not good for the health. Therefore I am not too well informed about recent local opinion on this issue. But my guess is he returns to Norway and pretends to be the charming guy who had a "successful top career in NATO" and will now return to manage Norges Bank (Norway's central bank). I know this has been suggested, but I am not sure what the status is. It would not be good...

Jens Stolteberg is the son of former Foreign Minister Thorvald Stoltenberg who was seen as a trusted non-corrupt person (I am not saying it is true). Jens started as leader of the Norwegian Labour Party youth (arbeidernes ungdomsfylking - AUF) in the 1980s. At that time his image was an explicit opponent to Norwegian NATO membership (yes!). He later became Energy Minister and also Prime Minister 2005-2013.

He was Prime Minister during the attacks 22. july 2011 at Utøya outside Oslo, a traditional place for AUF and the Labour party proper to convene during the summer weeks. Most of the youth opposition (who wanted to boycott Israel btw.) in the party was there and was wiped out that day. Jens Stoltenberg was the favourite successor to former PM Gro Harlem Brundtland (known for "we have other methods" when Norway voted 'no' to become EU member in 1994). Gro Harlem Brundtland later became head of the World Health Organisation (WHO) ...

Gated communities? Not really. We are supposed to be a small country (we are) where everything is rosy. In my childhood this was kind of true, I remember seeing then PM Trygve Bratteli almost every day walking to his office outside my home in Oslo. This does not happen anymore.

In my opinion, most Norwegians are very naive and do not want to question things around them. There are also many good and creative people, but we have a national psyche from the time when the world was much simpler and Norwegians were known for cross country skiing and exploring the Arctic and Antarctic.

The behaviour of Stoltenberg is in my opinion very much counter to the Norwegian official image of peace maker (even if that may be a false image). His nervousness in my opinion reflects that he is being pressured to do what he does, perhaps his masters in Washington knows something about him.

I agree with waynorinorway @111, I think history will look back at Stoltenberg and indeed compare him to Vidkun Quisling. In this image you see him at left together with Heinrich Himmler and Josef Terboven, the Reichskommissar for Norway during the Nazi occupation. Terboven blew himself up using 50kg of dynamite in a bunker (not too far from where I live) on the day of liberation May 8, 1945.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 17 2022 13:00 utc | 115

Sorry the Quisling image didn't work properly, here it is: Qusling with Himmler and Terboven

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 17 2022 13:07 utc | 116

Posted by: Jen | Jan 17 2022 5:21 utc | 100

I can't tell if you are being ironic or serious. Are these actions those of a 'humanitarian'? I was in Northern Greece in 1995 when the events at Srebrenica took place. At the time it was inconceivable and terrifying to me that Einsatzgruppen could return from the nightmare of history only a few hundred kms to my west to murder 8000 men and boys and rape god only knows how many women and girls. The perpetrators are Djokovic's mates. A few fund-raisers and contributing tax-write offs to charity can't conceal that kind of politics and it ain't pretty.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 17 2022 13:11 utc | 117

Go to the pdf text of the Cell article cited in top post. You will see the heading ‘Abstract’ and then the heading ‘Main text’. Read the third sentence of the first paragraph of main text. And understand that what you are reading is a Pfizer advertisement.

The article is supported by NIH, Bill Gates, and Evergrande. Strictly commercial speech. Why would this article need to be supported? No research was done. Any technical writer could have produced this text to spec in an hour.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 17 2022 14:04 utc | 118

I can't tell if you are being ironic or serious. Are these actions those of a 'humanitarian'? I was in Northern Greece in 1995 when the events at Srebrenica took place. At the time it was inconceivable and terrifying to me that Einsatzgruppen could return from the nightmare of history only a few hundred kms to my west to murder 8000 men and boys and rape god only knows how many women and girls. The perpetrators are Djokovic's mates. A few fund-raisers and contributing tax-write offs to charity can't conceal that kind of politics and it ain't pretty.

The events at Shebrenica that you claim above, never happened. Instead muslims killed, and drove Serbs from that place, as they did in Sarajevo, as the Croats did in Republika Serbska...

NATO was used by Germany to get even with the Serbs, for their acts during both world wars.

Events back then have led to the current situation.

Problem was Russia did not have sufficient resources/partners to confront NATO until now.

Medvedev asked for the back move 14 years ago, was laughed out of the room then. NATO is not
laughing now...

INDY

Posted by: George W Oprisko | Jan 17 2022 14:11 utc | 119

Got Covid? Be Happy.

The New York Times has a cheery piece of cherry pie for you to read.

The title of the NYT article reminds me of a novel title:
"Been down so long it looks like up to me"

You can read the NYT article here, if you have a subscription:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/14/nyregion/covid-test-lines-nyc.html
or read the archive:
https://archive.fo/nvzba

The title of the NYT piece is this:
"Lonely? Get in Line. A Covid Test Line."
subtitle:"Tales of New Yorkers singing together, getting impromptu architecture lessons and making new friends."

Perhaps you don't like cherry pie, for you the title may remind you of this one:
"Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"

Posted by: librul | Jan 17 2022 14:26 utc | 120

Thank you Norweigan and Waynorinorway. It's hard to imagine how some people-- Stoltenberg in this case-- leave their home area, go off and make a mess of things, and then return.

Posted by: migueljose | Jan 17 2022 14:33 utc | 121

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 16 2022 17:43 utc | 24

Apparently, bicycle saddles for female dolphins require a very careful design. Then we can have bicycling dolphins in sea themed amusement parks, and other applications too (dolphins trained to operate vehicles for a military?).

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 17 2022 14:39 utc | 122

The best article is the one on dolphins. Nice change of pace.

Posted by: Jose Garcia | Jan 17 2022 14:49 utc | 123

The US military used to include waterboarding in their SERE program (Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape)
but they decided in 2007 to remove waterboarding from the program (or so they tell us). I believe the intent was to train
military personnel to withstand waterboarding. I am assuming there was a logic to it.

Waterboarding is what came to mind when I saw this video:
I suggest you turn the audio off for this one:
https://twitter.com/prof_freedom/status/1482019804177391625

Posted by: librul | Jan 17 2022 14:55 utc | 124

Kiza: Did you know that the name "Scott" of the Australian PM Scott Morisson is a natural homonym of "dirty bastard" in the Serbian language

I doubt it. In Russian, "skot" means cattle (and skotina is an individual that either belong to cattle or shares intellectual characteristics), and to my surprise, "bydlo", a Polish word for cattle, is used as an invective as well. The insult is directed at intelligence and morality rather than parentage.

Luckily, Scots, a noble nation, have a different name in those languages so there is no improper inference.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 17 2022 14:56 utc | 125

@Patroklos #117

Srebrenica – a Genocide Narrative That Is Running Out of Steam (Strategic Culture Foundation, Stephen Karganovic, July 9, 2021)

Posted by: S | Jan 17 2022 15:00 utc | 126

@Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 17 2022 14:56 utc | 125

Speaking of homonyms...

"Did you know that the bat has traditionally been a lucky animal in China? The word for “bat” and “good fortune” are pronounced the same (“fu”). Due to their inherent auspiciousness, bats were often incorporated in tapestries, clothing, dishes, sculptures, paintings and even the imperial throne."

Lucky for us
someone thought it would be a good idea to inoculate bats against the coronavirus.
That experiment, apparently, was one experiment happening in a lab in Wuhan.
Lucky for us
nothing went wrong.

That was one experiment how many jillian other experiments are being done around the world.
Do you feel "fu"?

Posted by: librul | Jan 17 2022 15:07 utc | 127

@ Oldhippie

Thanks for bringing my attention to that article. I won’t speak to possible conflicts of interest that you seem to imply, but rather to the conclusions of the article. Although the title says booster begets breadth the articles message is booster may hopefully beget breadth. Here, they propose a mechanism involving b cells. Although they briefly mention that this mechanism ignores the more important role of t cells, they are afraid to take that road, for they would then be forced to admit that natural immunity (built up by years of exposure to coronaviruses) is infinitely superior to the pfizer/moderna drugs.

Posted by: Platero | Jan 17 2022 15:19 utc | 128

Interesting passage in linked Saker:

Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, etc.

I hear a lot of speculations about Russian missiles (or forces) being deployed “Cuban Missile Crisis” -style to either Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua or other friendly nations in Latin America. I would never say never (Putin loves to surprise)
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Russian strategy currently is directed at shaking the Western consensus that relies on control of the media. One should remember that Putin is not only a former intelligence analyst but also judo practitioner. The strategy is to raise tensions in a way that would undermine the confidence of the population in the leadership and the media.

On economic front, increasing commodity-rooted inflation undermines confidence in the leadership. But here much larger forces are at play, Russia merely adds its modest contribution.

On media front, now we have an intense and prolonged stream of "scary Russia" stories, some unwittingly hilarious (three Russian ships entered Baltic and Sweden "preventatively" send few companies of troops to Gotland, and an article was featured in Polish media). Crying wolf for a long time is known to decrease credibility.

But relentless hypocrisy of "freedom to expand" for NATO can be nicely exploited by provoking hysterics featured in the media concerning the Caribbean region. That does not require any nukes, just normal military supplies and economic aid -- the governments that cause irrational annoyance in USA have to be stabilized. That requires some budget and Russia is reluctant to do it alone. However, a cooperation of Iran, China and Russia is emerging, and some positive results in Venezuela were reported. Additionally, discussion about nukes in Caribbeans can serve the purpose, another wolf to cry about.

I guess that Russia has a "nuclear option" that is a bit expensive, but would press a vulnerable spot in Western military/media strategies. Beef up air defenses of Syria to the point that Israel cannot do much damage, and give Syrian more ground-ground missiles. Israeli hysterics would rise to the sky, existential danger and all that, and for some reasons, the collective West would be very, very concerned. And shooting down an Israeli plane would do more that taking half of Ukraine in terms of the collective West loosing nerve. Because the reaction may be too dramatic to be beneficial to Russia, I am guessing that it is left for the last resort, but as tension grow step by step, the time for it may come.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 17 2022 15:31 utc | 129

Players @ 128

The discussion of B cells is why I am inclined to think that article was written to spec by a technical writer. And not even a well supervised tech writer. No immunologist would make such a a complete hash of basic immune function.

Not implying anything. It says plainly the article was funded by NIH, by Bill Gates, by Evergrande. What that says to me is that US and China are working this project together still. I cannot claim to understand the long game, can only see that it is there.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 17 2022 15:34 utc | 130

Interesting article on z/h (best geopolitcal analysis is always from financial industry - if they are talking), offered this view:

One Russian source argues this is all a charade initiated by the White House to pressure Ukraine into implementing the Minsk Accords...

At least that would make some sense and I continue to hope that reason is still known in the world if not humanity.

I sense the ground is getting soft under the nazi clown.

That and the point I had been hoping to make: whither eu -have they completely outsourced diplomacy on matters of national interest? Are they in fetal position over pandemic and awaiting next bailout?

Posted by: jared | Jan 17 2022 15:51 utc | 131

@ Piotr Berman | Jan 17 2022 15:31 utc | 129 with the nice summary of Russia and the potential path forward.

I agree that a significant part of this civilization war we are in relates to having imposed one "culture" on another with historical overtones 73+ years ago.

It begs the existential question of believing that some humans are better than others and should be given preferential treatment that is not a negotiated part of the global commons.

We are seeing this at the scale of Occupied Palestine and the scale I keep trying to shine light on, the cult of our species that owns the levers of global private finance. Why should these humans be allowed to exert power over others?

I would hope that this awakening we are hopefully going through will get society to revisit that question of assumed "betterment" that we have built into our current form of social organization in the West.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 17 2022 16:03 utc | 132

Russia, Ukraine, etc. What Next?
By Patrick Armstrong @
https://turcopolier.com/russia-ukraine-et-al-what-next/

Posted by: Prof | Jan 17 2022 16:25 utc | 133

@133 So Patrick Armstrong doesn't know what comes next. We have to wait and see. Perhaps he thinks there is somebody in Washington who can think outside the box. A longshot IMO.

Posted by: dh | Jan 17 2022 17:05 utc | 134

Some may remember that several days ago the Russians warned that NATO is planning a false-flag.
The US recently responded by saying, "no, that is a Russian false-flag that we are planning".
Good counter move by the Americans, don't you think?

If the perpetrators are CIA trained Ukies
then you know they will muck it up.
The CIA needn't worry though as they can
count on the news media to tell it right.

Posted by: librul | Jan 17 2022 17:21 utc | 135

Thank you George W Oprisko ... ate monkey brains ... that is really a high risk practice and I guess it explains all those prions ... that are scattered among your text ;) Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease is a thing. Memory gaps can be actual gaps in the tissue etc., see Joe Biden.

I can only assume..... given you hide behind a pseudonym... that you are a CIA/NSA/FBI/MI6 troll..

As for brains... my dad and all my relatives, including myself, ate brains and scrambled eggs for breakfast for decades...

Which is why we became a family of geniuses.... which a perusal of our website would elaborate...

Exactly.... what have you done??? EVER???

INDY

Posted by: George W Oprisko | Jan 17 2022 17:31 utc | 136

@ 133 prof.. thanks... good article..

@ dh... maybe the fact no one knows is why b speculates there will be a war? see jan 12th and 13th threads...

Posted by: james | Jan 17 2022 17:33 utc | 137

@137 I certainly don't know james. Would that be a big war or a small war? Long or short? Any idea when it will start or who will be doing the fighting?

Posted by: dh | Jan 17 2022 17:38 utc | 138

@ 136 george.... quote from the link in your name.) pri member services - "Executive members are eligible for election to the board of directors, provided their membership of $ 100,000 is paid in full." and "Currently we have a need for a US headquarters, and donation of a property in the US will be considered. We also have need for a 4X4 and donation of such a vehicle is most welcome." weird set up if i do say so myself..

INDY

Posted by: james | Jan 17 2022 17:38 utc | 139

Hello b. I see you had reason to delete me yesterday. I'm not sure whether it was because of the placement, for which I apologise, or because of the content, and you are taking heat. If it is the latter, and you delete me again, I'll take a break.

This is about those legally binding security guarantees demanded by Russia


In that legal challenge to Blair at #4 on the previous open thread I cited Malcom Wall as his role model. Here is the significance of Malcolm Wall.

In order to take over my publicly traded company, Lord Hollick's organization provided certain legally binding promises to the Anglia Television shareholders like myself.

After the deal was finalized an executive was introduced with much fanfare - Malcolm Wall - and we were told he'd been made the new Managing Director. For example it was all over the front page of the Eastern Daily Press, which is the local newspaper owned by Sir Timothy Colman KG (he of the mustard family, a long standing Knight of the Garter and a friend of Queen Elizabeth).

But it was a lie. Malcolm Wall was a fake.

He was not legally appointed until AFTER all of the dirty work had been carried out by him personally. That means that those who appointed him - Mary Archer, David Puttnam, Clive Hollick et al - would not be held personally responsible in law for what Mr. Wall had done beforehand.

Now logic, and the law, would dictate that those acts prior to appointment were invalid, and do not count. However, section 285 of the Companies Act 1985 decrees:

285. Validity of acts of directors. The acts of a director or manager are valid notwithstanding any defect that may afterwards be discovered in his appointment or qualification; and this provision is not excluded by section 292(2) (void resolution to appoint).

See how it works? I say "fraud". Friends of Queen Elizabeth say "defect". Guess who wins in the English Court?

Now Blair also played this same game.

Queen Elizabeth did not grant him his seals of office following the General Election in 1997. She simply allowed the rest of us to continue in our belief that Blair was a bona fide Prime Minister. And in order to provide Blair with cover and protection 24/7 she actually granted royal prerogative powers to Alastair Campbell, Jonathan Powell and Sally Morgan. In addition, in order to protect Blair away from work she made his wife a Queens Counsel on the day that Mr Blair "became prime minister".

A "Prime Minister" who can be simply repudiated at any time. A man of straw.

And now, just two weeks ago, she finally appoints him Knight of the Garter.

See how it works?

Now this same game is coming to the surface in these Russia - United States negotiations.

Claim: NATO promised Russia it would not expand after the Cold War

Fact: NATO Allies take decisions by consensus and these are recorded. There is no record of any such decision taken by NATO. Personal assurances from individual leaders cannot replace Alliance consensus and do not constitute formal NATO agreement.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_111767.htm#c203

James Baker in 1990; Warren Christopher in 1993; Malcolm Wall in 1994; Anthony Blair from 1997. It is all the very same deception

My advice to Sergey Lavrov: do not take ANYTHING for granted or at face value, and do not underestimate the malevolence with which you are faced.

The instrument that nailed Blair

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/01/open-thread-2022-04.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02788065b16a200d#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02788065b16a200d

Posted by: John Cleary | Jan 17 2022 17:39 utc | 140

@ dh... i am on the side that thinks no war is going to happen... just a slow decay into irrelevance.... but if i am wrong and something happens in the nature of war, i suspect it will be very short lived... i can and have been wrong in the past of course!

Posted by: james | Jan 17 2022 17:40 utc | 141

@ John Cleary | Jan 17 2022 17:39 utc | 140... i read your post yesterday down to the bottom @1 and thought it was quite interesting.. but probably most people didn't make it to the punch line at the bottom.. cheers james

Posted by: james | Jan 17 2022 17:42 utc | 142

I haven't seen much mention of this, but I would suspect the magnitude of that Tongan volcanic eruption is enough to significantly alter the upper atmosphere's clarity for seasons to come as photos have indicated this wasn't your ordinary plume of ash. We may have a kinder summer going forward.

It beats teensy contrails for sure.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 17 2022 17:48 utc | 143

The West bears a significant amount of responsibility for the context surrounding the situation in the Ukraine. Joining NATO is enshrined in the constitution of Ukraine now and Russia doesn't want to see the seeds of democracy on their doorstep. The area is geographically speaking a muddy quagmire most of the year leaving only a small window where a ground invasion would be feasible once the ground freezes and the odds of a fullscale Russian invasion seem to be decreasing over time. Putin wants the fruits of war with out having to pay the price.

Posted by: D0ng | Jan 17 2022 17:50 utc | 144

[category: Humor]

Does anyone else see the physical resemblance between the coronavirus and
the Holy Handgrenade of Antioch?

HHA: https://vimeo.com/292290173

Compare the HHA to this street art:
https://twitter.com/LeighWolf/status/1482408194957889537/photo/3

(latter is panel 3 of 4 panels recently put up in downtown Washington DC, and subsequently ravaged by someone that prefers
peace and normalcy Washington-style)

Posted by: librul | Jan 17 2022 17:53 utc | 145

This is a very informative article concerning my previous post @143:

https://nypost.com/2022/01/16/
photos-show-tonga-volcano-collapsing-just-before-eruption/

Pictures are amazing, and point out why there is a confusion as to whether the volcano was 'undersea' or island based. Reminds me of Mt. Saint Helen, which collapsed as one side of the mountain blew away.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 17 2022 18:01 utc | 146

@141 I would agree with that james.. The spring is wound up tight and the tension has to be released somehow.

Interesting theory presented by jared @131 that the White House is pressuring Ukraine into implementing the Minsk Accords.

That would suggest somebody in the Whitehouse can think outside the box. One can hope.

Posted by: dh | Jan 17 2022 18:02 utc | 147

Regarding the guy who chases balls, Novak Djokovic.

Seven Seconds - I Hate Sports

Hope everyone is cool. Monday, Monday.


Posted by: lex talionis | Jan 17 2022 18:07 utc | 148

Posted by: migueljose | Jan 17 2022 14:33 utc | 121 & 109
It's hard to imagine how some people-- Stoltenberg in this case-- leave their home area,
go off and make a mess of things, and then return.

Re: CarlD | Jan 17 2022 1:53 utc | 78 & Norwegian | Jan 17 2022 13:00 utc | 115 &102
Thanks CarlD and Norwegian for your comments, and Migueljose as well for your interest.

Stoltenberg is both a yap dog and a lap dog. For a few pocket treats he has sold his soul.
But it is not correct to say that he has made a mess of things. He has performed exactly as he was hired to do.
Ander Fogh Rasmussen is very proud of him. He was not picked as NATO Sec/Gen for any other reasons than
he could be bought and not only affirm NATO’s message but solidify Norway’s place in NATO. Our location is
as strategic now as it was in pre WWII days and NATO knows it well. That’s amplified with the ice melting and
the opening of the NE passage.

Does he have friends? No more than any other sociopath at his level of politics.
What will his life be like on return? If things do not fall apart his rep will likely be twisted into that of a successful peacemaker.
If things explode it will be hard to ignore the provocative position he has taken. Then I would hope accountability would kick in.
Are there gated communities here? Only for farm animals. We roam far and wide here in the north with only reindeer
fences to deal with other than natural terrain.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 17 2022 18:15 utc | 149

@juliania | Jan 17 2022 17:48 utc | 143

I haven't seen much mention of this, but I would suspect the magnitude of that Tongan volcanic eruption is enough to significantly alter the upper atmosphere's clarity for seasons to come as photos have indicated this wasn't your ordinary plume of ash. We may have a kinder summer going forward.

It beats teensy contrails for sure.


Although it was a decent bang, you need much more than that to significantly alter the atmosphere for more than a short time. The Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai volcano in Tonga was entertaining though and had an entertaining name as well. Here are some details
Hunga Tonga Volcano Eruption Update; Large Tsunami Occurs; Powerful Explosive Eruption

The most significant part of it was the underwater landslide causing a tsunami.

PS:
Why should you never kick a volcano?
Because you might Krakatoa.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 17 2022 18:16 utc | 150

Posted by: George W Oprisko | Jan 16 2022 18:33 utc | 37
Posted by: George W Oprisko | Jan 16 2022 20:53 utc | 46
Posted by: George W Oprisko | Jan 16 2022 21:04 utc | 48
Posted by: George W Oprisko | Jan 17 2022 14:11 utc | 119
Posted by: George W Oprisko | Jan 17 2022 17:31 utc | 136

George, you continue to refer to other posters and not give any reference to them.
There's 5 examples in this thread alone but it is characteristic of you.
It's totally disrespectful and if you can't learn to give a date stamp and a post number
when quoting others or referring to their message please stfu or just piss off.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 17 2022 18:27 utc | 151

150 Norwegian - Your joke made me laugh! I will remember it! So far no seismic sea waves in Los Angeles.

Posted by: lex talioinis | Jan 17 2022 18:29 utc | 152

Posted by: Jen @ 82 :

"..I hear rumours of people leaving the Liberal Party in droves and joining the United Australia Party..."

Membership of political parties is at an all time low in Australia the last time I looked. I can't imagine anyone willingly signing up to any of the discredited and tarnished criminal syndicates, unless they were looking for a safe seat and a parliamentary pension for life.

The only MP I have any respect for is Andrew Wilkie, [Independent].

The parties have to resort to branch stacking to fill the ranks. If voting wasn't compulsory few would bother turning up.

Posted by: Paul | Jan 17 2022 18:35 utc | 153

"...when the realities if 22. July 2011 becomes clear."

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 17 2022 6:12 utc | 102

The Andre(?) Breivik massacre?

Posted by: Mann Friedmann | Jan 17 2022 18:41 utc | 154

@Mann Friedmann | Jan 17 2022 18:41 utc | 154

Breivik massacre?
That's what you are supposed to believe.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 17 2022 18:48 utc | 155

Are you listening, George?

@Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 17 2022 18:27 utc | 151

We know you aren't *trying* to be annoying, George.

Posted by: librul | Jan 17 2022 18:59 utc | 156

John Cleary @140--

Thanks again John for continuing to reveal what are genuine and vital insights! It seems very similar to the non denial denial fraud. As in the USA when the president signed treaties with Native Americans, they weren't actual treaties because never ratified by Senate and thus never really broken since they were never treaties. El Muy Grade Problemo comes with the ratification of the UN Charter that made it the law of the land, which the USA violates daily.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 17 2022 19:13 utc | 157

This is quite curious, "Omicron cases in Beijing, Shenzhen suspected of links to packages from North America":

"Virologists warned of the high risk of packages from overseas causing domestic COVID-19 flare-ups, when the epidemic overseas is running high, as contaminated packages from epidemic-rampant countries may spread the virus to people with weak immunity through viral particles floating in the air, or people without proper protective gear.

"A patient from Shenzhen, who was confirmed to be infected with Omicron on Sunday, is likely to have contracted it after being exposed to contaminated goods from overseas, Shenzhen's health authorities said at Monday's press conference.

"The patient, whose work involved handling overseas frozen reagents for collection and delivery, had touched and opened packages from North America without using personal protective gear, according to the press conference, adding that the virus' origin is still under probe.

"On the same day, Beijing health authorities revealed that a patient from Beijing who was found to have Omicron on Saturday had received a piece of international mail on January 11, which was sent from Toronto, Canada on January 7 and then transferred via the US and the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region to Beijing. The Omicron variant was detected on the outer package, internal surface and paper of the mail." [My Emphasis]

It's been awhile since we heard news of Covid spread via frozen food supply chains and other vectors. The above paragraph implies the virus has the ability to stay alive much longer even when not frozen. We just had a discussion last night about what to do with paper dollars potentially holding virus given to us by my wife's son for us to deposit. We decided to soak them in alcohol overnight then let the bills air-dry. Yes, after two years working in the "front lines" he finally tested positive although he was vaccinated. We provided him with the tools to combat it and he was free of symptoms in three days.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 17 2022 19:27 utc | 158

Greetings to the bar from snowed-in Montréal! I thought I’d pass along a few highlights from the news here (as per CTV News and La Presse.)

This morning there were 1,000 trucks out in the city to plough snow, put down salt or gravel. Even so Canada Post issued a red delivery service alert: no mail will be delivered today. Maybe for the best! Beijing reports today that Omicron was delivered to them in mail from Canada.

Another teen, shot and killed recently.17 year old Amir Benayad.

Speaking of snow, have you heard of the snowy owl that’s shown up in Washington, DC, completely out if it’s normal range? Check out the one minute video in this La Presse article for the proof. Best wishes to all on this January day!

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/insolite/2022-01-17/a-washington-on-se-passionne-pour-un-harfang-des-neiges.php

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jan 17 2022 19:29 utc | 159

Alastair Crooke has a new essay out dealing with the Geneva "negotiations," "Dialogue of the Deaf in Geneva", which opens thusly:

"A curious event occurred on Monday in Geneva. It seems that the only substantive outcome from the U.S.–Russia talks is that the U.S. has promised to provide a formal response to the earlier Russian demand for security guarantees within a week. The Russian counterparts outlined their own position unambiguously, and in full detail. This, however, was wholly disdained by the Biden Team, who, according to the Russians, were 'diehard/stubborn'. The Russian delegation was told that its key request of ‘no more NATO eastward expansion’ was simply 'a non-starter'.

"It plainly was not then ‘a negotiation’. The U.S. is discussing only missile deployment issues and mutual limitations on military exercises, but avoiding the crux of Russian demands (the roll-back of NATO from its near abroad, to be achieved either through diplomacy or a by ‘a strategy of tension’, i.e. escalating pain). And the U.S. has neither a negotiating strategy tied to realisable objectives, nor real options, beyond the symbolical assertion of NATO ‘openness’.

"NATO’s door must remain ‘open’ is the U.S.’ meme-narrative – yet it is an assertion that lacks substance. Washington has already conceded that neither it, nor NATO, will fight (at least overtly), over Ukraine – whereas Russia has said that it will so do, were Ukraine to be subsumed into NATO." [My Emphasis]

Discussion of the "non-negotiations" has mostly disappeared from the bar while we await the Outlaw US Empire's "detailed response," although it seems clear the foot-dragging Lavrov warned of publicly on several occasions will be the substance of the reply.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 17 2022 19:46 utc | 160

Hi karlof1 and everyone else. Does anyone have any ideas what is going on in Kazkhstan? I read some stupid thing in the Guardian. It is still quite a mystery to me. karlof1 said that Mr.Putin told him (nn) to keep his head down. I hope that is the case. He did a lot for his country. It would be a shame to see things go down in flames. A real shame.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jan 17 2022 20:03 utc | 161

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 17 2022 15:31 utc | 129

...I guess that Russia has a "nuclear option" that is a bit expensive, but would press a vulnerable spot in Western military/media strategies. Beef up air defenses of Syria to the point that Israel cannot do much damage, and give Syrian more ground-ground missiles. Israeli hysterics would rise to the sky, existential danger and all that, and for some reasons, the collective West would be very, very concerned...

Well I'm not going to hold my breath on this one either.

For a scenario like yours to occur, we would first expect an incremental series of Russian reactions which we just aren't seeing at this point.

For starters, Russia could verbally acknowledge the recurrent Israeli belligerence. I mean, we're talking about attacks every week, everywhere. Missiles flying just overhead, over and over, targeting civilian and military infrastructure and killing, you know, allies. And yet I can't say I ever heard a mere acknowledgement of the incidents. Now, it certainly could be that I just haven't been listening very well. But maybe our media-judoka could make more of an effort to get the word across? It would make a big difference.

The next step, of course, would be to condemn these acts of war. That would have an even greater impact.

On the diplomatic field, there are many more steps that Russia could take. An obvious action could be to summon the ambassador, followed by a presser explaining why you just summoned the ambassador. This sort of thing is done all the time for petty stuff, so why not consider it when an international airport has been struck?

And then Rusia could cut diplomatic ties and break off other relations in the fields of commerce, sports, academia, etc. Things would begin to hurt at this point.

Posted by: robin | Jan 17 2022 20:04 utc | 162

Posted by: robin | Jan 17 2022 20:04 utc | 162

Indeed you are right that Russian policy on Syria seems way too cautious and stingy, and they could start with internal information space that Israel would notice quite quickly. On the other hand, Russian government sticks to a narrow range of priorities, NATO expansion is at the front now. When they start issuing threats, even the vague ones, they take care of domestic support. One reason why they maintain much higher credibility at home than the West.

Chinese style is the same in the outline if not in details, so the differences in international posture are gradual. But when they happen, Washington and the rest of collective West will have few levers to change it without concessions (why the hell exclude the return of Taiwan being independent de-facto only and more-or-less neutral? Taiwanese would live more comfortably, and negotiators would work on reconciling Chinese economic needs with American need for re-industrialization etc., with pragmatic compromises.)

Back to Israel. Any perceived threat raises a hysteria that is transmitted to American Congress, British Parliament etc. So far, it gives Israel a stack of "a Get Out of Jail Free" cards. And Israel has an impressive pile of high tech planes, missiles and anti-aircraft weapons, so altering the balance of forces there is not cheap.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 17 2022 20:34 utc | 163

Why hasn't the US and its lackeys responded to Russia? One reason is that the lengthy Lavrov Russian position papers are snoozers, while the US uses sound bites to dominate the news. It's a hundred thousand troops on the border, preparations for a false flag, and a Russian attack is imminent.
The busy world is repeatedly fed these US sound-bites which then dominate the world press. There's no repeated Russia talk about a US Kyev coup nor uki-Nazis nor UN resolution violations. They may have been mentioned in some lengthy Russian document but that's doesn't qualify them for any attention.
And if Lavrov knew it wouldn't work, with the foot-dragging he warned of publicly, then why did he do it?

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 17 2022 20:49 utc | 165

Don Bacon @165--

Why did the Colonists write that overly long and dreary Declaration of Independence? For the same reasons why the Russians painstakingly spelled out their positions--because it's the Correct and Lawful thing to do. That you and too many others attention spans are truncated isn't the Russian's fault. Rather, that's a product of the Bernaisification/Lippmanification of the West's ability to follow a logical discourse or argument. Then of course, there's the Establishment's BigLie Narrative that's echoed by the global media that CIA/MI-6 essentially control, which will studiously avoid telling any aspect of the Truth to the plebs they control. Remember Reagan's DCI saying (paraphrased), We'll know our propaganda system is perfect when nobody doubts what we publish. Although public polling about trusting the media doesn't give that answer yet, that hasn't stopped them from doing their damnedest to control minds globally.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 17 2022 21:06 utc | 166

The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Mark Milley, is isolating himself and working remotely from a location where he can perform all his duties. The Marine Corps said its commandant, Gen. David Berger, also has COVID-19. . .In other news, the top USArmy enlistment bonus has been increased to $50,000 but the candidate must enter immediately. . . .and the Pentagon is operating on a continuing resolution, in essence last year's budget, because an appropriations bill hasn't been passed and may not be any time soon (the government fiscal year begins October first).

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 17 2022 21:09 utc | 167

U.S., EU Drop Idea of Removing Russia From Swift: Report

"The U.S. and the European Union are no longer considering the option of unplugging Russia from the Swift international payments system if it attacks Ukraine, Handelsblatt reported, citing unidentified people familiar with the issue.

Nations involved believe that excluding Russia could destabilize financial markets in the short term and would help develop an alternative, non-Western dominated infrastructure, the German newspaper said.

Instead, Washington and Brussels are weighing targeted penalties against major Russian banks after an aggression. Germany is seeking exceptions from penalties to ensure that oil and gas payments remain possible, the paper said.

All options are still on the table, a U.S. National Security Council spokeswoman said, adding that consultations with European counterparts continue.

Many countries are opposed to cutting Russia off from the Swift system, but the option is not yet completely off the table, according to an EU diplomat who declined to be named Monday discussing confidential talks. Russian banks will, however, very likely be targeted after an attack against Ukraine, the diplomat added.


Read more: U.S. Pushes Europe Over Sanctions With Wary Eye on Putin

Bloomberg previously reported that cutting Russia off from Swift was seen as a red line by some major western European countries. The U.S. and its European allies have been discussing targeting several Russian banks with sanctions should Russia invade Ukraine. A number of those same European governments have also proposed carve-outs for some banks and transactions, as well as introducing some financial measures gradually.

The bulk of any EU-wide response would have to be unanimously agreed by all 27 member states.

(Updates with comment from U.S. National Security Council in fourth paragraph)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-17/u-s-eu-drop-idea-of-removing-russia-from-swift-paper-reports

Posted by: daffyDuct | Jan 17 2022 21:10 utc | 168

karlof1 | Jan 17 2022 19:27 utc | 158

Two tweets that show that the Russian/US situation could blow up in everyone's faces without warning.

Note that there is a NATO build-up in Poland and around Belarus/Kalingrad. Sweden is sensitive as any US/NATO blockade would have to use it's territory. If the US thinks it will be able to attack Lukashenko at the same time as a projected Russian action?. The "radiation and chemical defense brigade", can also be used if a weaponised version of a virus - in frozen goods, is used in Belarus. As it may be in China at the moment. The possibility is being taken seriously, and who wouldn't.

"Conflict Intelligence Team @CITeam_en found out that the military equipment of the Russian Federation, seen today in Kolodishchi, belongs to the 16th Radiation, Chemical and Biological Defense brigade, which is located 9,000 km from Belarus.
**
Russian forces arriving in Belarus should have implications for folks' perception of the size/scope of the operation. First time ever Eastern Mil District forces in Belarus. If you think its not a bluff, great. If you think its not going to be large-scale...I suggest a rethink
.
(My emphasis).

Both the UK (Three transport planes of arms. Boeing C-17A Globemaster III), and Canada (SF forces) are sending forces. Said to be small, but how many mercenaries are also being sent?

Posted by: Stonebird | Jan 17 2022 21:15 utc | 169

@165 Don Bacon

I( consider it a dixi et salvavi animam meam attitude, or in other words: we told you.

Posted by: aquadraht | Jan 17 2022 21:15 utc | 170

lex talionis @161--

The majority of deployed CSTO troops are already back at their barracks, and the internal investigation continues. Kazakhstan now must confront the internal reasons for the ease of the revolt, which is economic disparity caused by very unequal development and its outcomes. As I wrote at the time, all the Central Asian Stans must get with the program of people-centered development championed by Xi, Putin, and their governments. As noted by several analysts, too many former Soviet nations instituted policies that aimed at two different vectors--the West and the East--neither of which was even close to satisfactory, with the Western vector loaded with danger as we've seen so many times. The West's goal was never to become partners with any of the former Soviet states; rather, the goal is to become the owners of their physical assets and governments to the point where the citizens are essentially enserfed, much like their Western counterparts.

Kazakhstan took a major step toward solving its internal issues by starting the process of becoming a Union State with Russia and Belarus, but lots of work remains to be done.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 17 2022 21:22 utc | 171

daffyDuct | Jan 17 2022 21:10 utc | 168

They have probably only just realised that they would lose "secret" information about Russian finances and deals. Plus as Swift would no longer be the major system for transactions, then it's utility for the US would be correspondingly reduced. Nominally it is a System based in Brussels.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jan 17 2022 21:23 utc | 172

@171 - Thank you for you response. I am getting kind of freaked out about what is going on in the world. Places like MoA and commenters like you help me figure out what is up.
Thank you and thanks to b and everyone else.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jan 17 2022 21:39 utc | 173

"Some may remember that several days ago the Russians warned that NATO is planning a false-flag.
The US recently responded by saying, "no, that is a Russian false-flag that we are planning". - librul @135

Good one!!

Posted by: spudski | Jan 17 2022 21:58 utc | 174

daffyDuct @168--

The hubris-addled Westerners finally realized that by killing SWIFT they kill themselves via the blowback.

Stonebird @169--

Thanks for your reply. The recent theme in my comments is soundly echoed by Xi in his address to Davos today, the transcript of which is here. Here's the segment of Xi's speech I'm referring to:

"Fourth, we need to discard Cold War mentality and seek peaceful coexistence and win-win outcomes. Our world today is far from being tranquil; rhetorics that stoke hatred and prejudice abound. Acts of containment, suppression or confrontation arising thereof do all harm, not the least good, to world peace and security. History has proved time and again that confrontation does not solve problems; it only invites catastrophic consequences. Protectionism and unilateralism can protect no one; they ultimately hurt the interests of others as well as one’s own. Even worse are the practices of hegemony and bullying, which run counter to the tide of history. Naturally, countries have divergences and disagreements between them. Yet a zero-sum approach that enlarges one’s own gain at the expense of others will not help. Acts of single-mindedly building 'exclusive yards with high walls' or 'parallel systems', of enthusiastically putting together exclusive small circles or blocs that polarize the world, of overstretching the concept of national security to hold back economic and technological advances of other countries, and of fanning ideological antagonism and politicizing or weaponizing economic, scientific and technological issues, will gravely undercut international efforts to tackle common challenges.

"The right way forward for humanity is peaceful development and win-win cooperation. Different countries and civilizations may prosper together on the basis of respect for each other, and seek common ground and win-win outcomes by setting aside differences.

"We should follow the trend of history, work for a stable international order, advocate common values of humanity, and build a community with a shared future for mankind. We should choose dialogue over confrontation, inclusiveness over exclusion, and stand against all forms of unilateralism, protectionism, hegemony or power politics." [My Emphasis]

Xi's speech was very similar to last year's. And like last year's, this speech will also fall on deaf ears and empty brains stupified by hubris and the Anglo prejudice toward all but their own small elite circle. I expect the Outlaw Anglo Empire to go for broke hoping that something unforeseen will occur like the so-called Protestant Wind of 1588 or Hitlerian oversight of not having any landing craft in 1940.

Xi wants a big ship, but all I see is a small fleet of Argos.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 17 2022 22:01 utc | 175

@168 See what they can achieve when they use their brains constructively. Now they need to come to the same realization about Nordstream 2

Posted by: dh | Jan 17 2022 22:03 utc | 176

If you didn’t already know how the two parties have long been joined at the CIA hip in the USA
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/01/03/there-is-absolutely-no-reason-in-the-world-to-believe-that-bill-clinton-is-a-cia-asset-except-for-all-the-evidence/

Posted by: D.G. | Jan 17 2022 22:03 utc | 177

Yet another excellent example of Putin's Russia employing the same policy from the USSR wherein large corporations implement extensive social programs in the regions where they operate, which is a policy no student of Russia's political-economy can ignore.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 17 2022 22:12 utc | 178

George W Oprisko #136

George, re prions and monkey brains etc, it was said in jest.

So pardon my black humour.

And yes I have done many things of great benefit to many people.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 17 2022 22:14 utc | 179

librul #145

Compare the HHA to this street art:
https://twitter.com/LeighWolf/status/1482408194957889537/photo/3

(latter is panel 3 of 4 panels recently put up in downtown Washington DC, and subsequently ravaged by someone that prefers peace and normalcy Washington-style)

Thank you for that link to great street art. Methinks it better than the Holy Handgrenade of Antioc and I appreciate the juxtaposition.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 17 2022 23:18 utc | 180

Posted by: james | Jan 17 2022 17:42 utc | 142

Thank you james for that invaluable feedback.
It never crossed my mind that
a) it was too long
b) the end was a punchline, with all that it means.

I see it now. How would you shorten it?


Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 17 2022 19:13 utc | 157

Thank you Karl.

Yeah, it all comes down to enforcement, doesn't it.
They have both positioned themselves as islands, they can hit you but you cannot hit them. Pirates.
That is why they undermine the United Nations at every turn. No UN, nobody to stop them.

You're doing yeoman work, but some of the material you are having to work with is dreadful.

So turgid. It will be very easy to sell Xi to the Murcan people as a Soviet tractor production bureaucrat.

A thought. Do you remember a few weeks ago a poster here, Oriental Voice I think, took some article in Chinese and gave us not a word-for-word translation, but rather he conveyed the substance in a comfortable vernacular?

That is what we need.
This war is being fought at the emotional level, time after time after time.

The Chinese have to market to Western publics. They have to start to understand.

An example of what I mean.
I never get involved in any of the financial stuff.
It's just too big for ordinary people. They cannot visualise these numbers, so they shut them out.
The subject never becomes personal, therefore never emotional, therefore no effect.

The biggest financial scandal in the UK was over trifling sums of money.
It was the scandal over the expenses claimed by Members of Parliament.

It became a scandal because ordinary people very much could see themselves doing the same thing.
So why should this bastard get away with it?
It was emotional.

Another example.
Boris Johnson has been Mr Teflon. He has got away with so much, never been punished.
But as long as he was a bit of a laugh people would not look too closely.

Now he's in the shit.
He was having a party while telling others to isolate.
Ordinary people would have loved to have a party.
So why should this bastard get away with it?
It is emotional.


I think it is related, at some level, to the "Big Lie" approach.

Just to be clear, by this I mean the proposition that if you lie, you must lie big.
The lie must be so big that ordinary people could not possibly think of making such a big lie for themselves. It goes against everything that they have been taught.

"The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous."
Joseph Goebbels, 12 January 1941. Die Zeit ohne Beispiel. Munich


The essential English leadership secret

I wonder what that might be?

ps does this speculation make me a Nazi?

Posted by: John Cleary | Jan 17 2022 23:30 utc | 181

Patroklos @ 117:

I'm sure the BBC, Radio Free Europe and all the other news media and NGO sites based in Washington DC, Los Angeles, the UK, the Netherlands and funded directly or indirectly by the US government or its agencies, or by Open Society Foundations, would know how many Bosnian Muslim women and girls were raped by Serbian forces after 25 years of documenting these crimes. Especially as they know how many Bosnian Muslim men and boys were killed by these forces. One would think evidence of rape is less difficult to find and to document than evidence of mass murder when bodies may be hard to find due to decomposition or other deterioration.

I'm not sure that linking to an article about Novak Djokovic's associations with extremists and "hoaxers" at Global Voices, an organisation founded by a former Open Society Foundations fellow and another previously associated with OSF will help to convince many MoA barflies about Djokovic's past and maybe present affiliations.

I am not too sure also about Mirza Hota and his association with organisations like the Institute for Research of Genocide Canada which appears to be a political lobby group. One might think an organisation calling itself such would concern itself more generally also with the war in Bosnia i Hercegovina and other parts of the former Yugoslavia, and with atrocities committed by all sides and their allies (including foreign allies and supporters), not just atrocities committed by Serbs.

Posted by: Jen | Jan 17 2022 23:48 utc | 182

Thanks, karlof1 for again providing the link to Alistair Crooke's article about the Geneva confrontation. He makes a good point that there was no strategy to the US preparation, and I think his analysis on that point is sound. I would disagree, however with what is his view of the US public in general and the interpretation he gives of indifference to what is happening with respect to Ukraine. While indeed the public is fully involved in domestic inadequacies and how to cope with those, it seems to me there is an increasing awareness of a similar lack of leadership on the international stage -- the US government isn't playing its hand in order to win support from the populace. It has long ago taken a different road entirely. It pleases those who control the purse strings; lesser folk be damned.

Here is Crooke:

"...It is pretty evident that the U.S. team arrived at Geneva strategy-less. It is also about the more recent trend for the U.S. to lose strategically (even militarily), in order to win politically – which is to say about a supposed, largely symbolic, ‘win’ prompting a favourable, albeit short-term, unconscious emotional reaction – amongst American voters, even at the expense America’s longer-term strategic decline.
[my bold]

It's a good essay - I just wish Crooke had been more aware of what it really means nowadays in the US to win politically. He should come here and read a bit of psychohistorian's message! And also, not mistake the public's quiet as inattention. We are all waiting for something, anything to happen to change the shameful course the US onetrack minds seem determined to take us on. Meanwhile, like populations before us, doing our best to keep loved ones and the good earth ongoing.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 17 2022 23:55 utc | 183

My post at 183 is in response to karlof1 @ 160, sorry if that wasn't clear.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 18 2022 0:00 utc | 184

@ Jen

Chinese army invading Australia and singing to Patroklos

Posted by: Platero | Jan 18 2022 1:12 utc | 185

@ John Cleary | Jan 17 2022 23:30 utc | 181... hi john.. i enjoy your posts and appreciate them! one idea might be to give a quick summary at the beginning... that is about all i can think of.. otherwise people need to read your posts from beginning to end.... it is unfortunate b deleted your post at the top of the thread, but not completely surprising.. in your post here @ 181 you make very good observations that are very relevant to what is happening on a grand scale.. that you mostly focus thru the prism of uk politics and etc also makes sense given your background.. cheers james

Posted by: james | Jan 18 2022 2:23 utc | 186

@ Jen

OK, I get it. I'm not welcome here anymore. Djokovic is a saint, no one was raped or murdered in Bosnia except Serbs, everyone is in a echo chamber: "the sites you quote are crap, the ones I cite are God's truth, etc", tennis is thrilling, ad nauseam.

@b

I will still read your posts but I can't post anymore without being scolded by 'real barflies' with a grudge. It feels too much like work.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 18 2022 2:59 utc | 187

Platero @ 185:

Thanks! ... I'll get my violin for Patroklos.

Posted by: Jen | Jan 18 2022 3:49 utc | 188

Below is a link to a posting by Charles Hugh Smith writing about US politics

Politics Is Dead, Here's What Killed It

The take away quote
"
Politics might have had a fighting chance but three forces betrayed the nation and its citizenry.

1. The Federal Reserve transferred trillions of dollars of unearned wealth into the feeding troughs of the super-wealthy and corporations, vastly increasing the wealth the top 0.01% had to buy elections and favors. The Federal Reserve cloaked its treachery with jargon-- quantitative easing, stimulus, etc.--and then stabbed the nation's representational democracy in the back.

2. The Supreme Court betrayed the nation's representative democracy by labeling corporations buying elections and political favors a form of "free speech." (Please don't hurt yourself laughing too hard.) The Supreme Court's equating wealth buying elections and favors with individual citizens' sacrosanct right of free speech was a knife in the back of the nation and its citizenry.

3. The two political parties betrayed their traditional voter bases to kneel at the altar of corporate / elite wealth, wealth which bought elections and political favors. The Democrats, traditional champions of the workforce in the 20th century, abandoned workers in favor of serving their corporate masters, masking their betrayal with fine-sounding phrases.
"

That sums it up fairly well to me.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 18 2022 4:10 utc | 189

Below is a Substack link that shows the Covid underground at work...../s

Rogue street art appears overnight in D.C., mocks Biden & Fauci's COVID regime

One of them says

“Mandate! Segregate! Subjugate!”

Check it out....Covid is forcing us to look at ourselves in ways we really need to, IMO

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 18 2022 4:19 utc | 190

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 18 2022 4:19 utc | 190

Brilliant!
I'd say thanks a million psychohistorian, but there's no reason to support
inflationary trends so I'll just give you the customary Norwegian appreciation
currency and offer 'tusen takk' (1,000 thanks).

That was a refreshing way to start my day. The messaging of art is so much more effective
than all the words that nobody reads - or heeds.

We need more Banksys and fewer banksters!

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 18 2022 5:00 utc | 191

@ waynorinorway | Jan 18 2022 5:00 utc | 191 who wrote
"
We need more Banksys and fewer banksters!
"

Agreed....at least the private ones...fewer/zero private banksters for me!

I hope we see more of that sort of art messaging.

Good morning to you ; I am off to sleep soon being on the other side of our spaceship.
Are you a sauna owner/user? I am a regular sauna user for pain management and have built four in my lifetime.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 18 2022 5:19 utc | 192

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 18 2022 5:19 utc | 192
"Are you a sauna owner/user? I am a regular sauna user for pain management and have built four in my lifetime."

I don't have one. Do you make deliveries? The closest I come to that is bathing in cold lakes or streams here
after a long day of backpacking in the Arctic wilderness. It's tough to get in but the muscles are appreciative.
You might do well in that business here. Many norskies have cabins and sauna's are very popular. Sleep well and greet
everyone in Canby for me.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 18 2022 5:43 utc | 193

I was surprised to see this video (on a Google News feed) claiming that China has destroyed a major Buddha statue in Tibet and is punishing monks in various cruel ways. The website is owned by India's Zee News.

https://youtu.be/tBhAwFIO8DA

Posted by: sarz | Jan 18 2022 5:43 utc | 194

China's Xi has given a speech to the WEF and below is a quote from it that I thought was informative in its detail

"
China will stay committed to reform and opening-up. For China, reform and opening-up is always a work in process. Whatever change in the international landscape, China will always hold high the banner of reform and opening-up. China will continue to let the market play a decisive role in resource allocation, and see to it that the government better plays its role. We will be steadfast in consolidating and developing the public sector, just as we are steadfast in encouraging, supporting and guiding the development of the non-public sector. We will build a unified, open, competitive and orderly market system, where all businesses enjoy equal status before the law and have equal opportunities in the marketplace. All types of capital are welcome to operate in China in compliance with laws and regulations, and play a positive role for the development of the country. China will continue to expand high-standard opening-up, steadily advance institutional opening-up that covers rules, management and standards, deliver national treatment for foreign businesses, and promote high-quality Belt and Road cooperation.
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 18 2022 5:43 utc | 195

@ waynorinorway | Jan 18 2022 5:43 utc | 193 who is trying to find me work

I am 73 and trying to retire but thanks. I have enjoyed building them and remodeling houses as a balance to my computer career.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 18 2022 5:54 utc | 196

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 18 2022 2:59 utc | 187

I agree with you about there being 'real barflies', heavy on the quotes. But chippy arrogance abounds in this social media age
and should be treated like a paper napkin at a watermelon feed. I recommend Richard Feynman's
What Do You Care What Other People Think. If Feynman could run around with Vegas showgirls and play bongos
in Rio, so can you and me.
(BTW, Rocket Rod Laver is the GOAT and I'll take on all challengers, including Novakians.)

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 18 2022 5:59 utc | 197

Canada Deploys Special Forces to Ukraine Amid Rising Tensions With Ukraine

https://globalnews.ca/news/8517110/canada-special-forces-ukraine-russia/

Canadian special forces operators have been deployed to Ukraine amid rising tensions between the NATO military alliance and Russia, Global News has learned."

Because Chrystia Freeland.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jan 18 2022 6:25 utc | 198

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 18 2022 5:59 utc | 197

Thanks my friend. You're right. I'd forgotten about Feynman! I'll hunt out that book. Cheers.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 18 2022 6:37 utc | 199

karlof1 | Jan 17 2022 22:12 utc | 178

The following from John Helmer back in 2017 goes some ways into how the Russians have chosen to establish their national security: treat oligarchs as boyars and cheat/beat the west at its own game. But . . . the price gets paid domestically, eh? Quite the departure from the Chinese, who I infer were close competitors of the Russians in Central Asia and still are.



WHEN CORRUPTION IS STATE STRATEGY IN RUSSIA’S NEAR-ABROAD, THE US LEADS, RUSSIA PLAYS CATCH-UP

3-28-17

Russia’s relative success at applying corruption as a foreign policy tool is plain. Less than twenty years after the break-up of the Soviet Union and the independence of its member states, and less than a decade after Russia was virtually bankrupt, in default on its treasury bonds, several Russian oligarchs had managed to establish themselves on the controlling heights of the economies of what in Russia is called the Near-Abroad (ближнее зарубежье). That is a Russian political term, not just a geographical one. It’s much bigger than the term Ukraine, which a thousand years ago meant the land on the border, as it still does.

map

The Near-Abroad also includes the former Soviet states of the Caucasus (Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia), as well as Belarus. In Russian “Central Asia” is a fraction of the bigger term; it refers to Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, but not Kazakhstan. As a term used outside Russia, Central Asia is restricted geographically, including Kazakhstan but excluding the Caucasus. “Turkestan” is a 19th century term which included the collapsing Ottoman Empire, now Turkey. The “Eurasian Balkans” has been another term used by Americans for strategic comprehensiveness to include all of what Russia means by the Near-Abroad except for Belarus. Zbigniew Bzezinski, the one-time national security advisor in the Carter Administration and wannabe Russia warfighter ever since, also included Afghanistan in his map of Russia’s Near-Abroad, as he devised methods for shrinking the map on the Russian side.

Russia’s Near-Abroad is equivalent to the zone of Washington’s influence first spelled out by President James Monroe in 1823. Territorially, the latter was much, much bigger – hemispheric, in fact. At its inception, though, the Monroe Doctrine was agreed with Russia and Great Britain, which already had colonies over the northern border of the US, and intended to keep them. Monroe’s targets were south of the American border.

When the USSR collapsed in 1991, the Kremlin’s administrative resources to preserve the Near-Abroad evaporated. Preoccupied with saving himself, then enriching his retainers, President Boris Yeltsin was obliged to accept the dictates of a group of boyars, as the medieval tsar’s cronies, financiers and potential rivals were known.


Once President Vladimir Putin felt secure enough domestically, the boyars were turned into an oligarch system. The boyars were unhorsed and disarmed, then institutionalized around the Kremlin palace table for an annual Christmastide celebration.

Putin turned them to account for Russian security strategy abroad. They tried but failed in the Americas and in Europe. They succeeded in the Near-Abroad.

By 2010, the Russian oligarchs owned the major metal and mining companies of Tajikistan and Georgia; they managed the purse-strings of the ruling Karimov family in Uzbekistan through mobile telecommunications and other concessions. They did this despite intense competition from Russia’s much richer western adversaries – the US, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), the European Union (EU). But the Russians couldn’t manage this by themselves. Without record high prices for oil, minerals and gold, the bribes of the Russian oligarchs would have been a pittance beside the rewards on offer from Washington, London and Brussels. As Cooley and Heathershaw document, the Russians also needed help from the courts, banks, financial regulators, and PR companies in those capitals. They grew rich, too.

Instead of the military, administrative and financial controls of the Soviet-era system, the Kremlin has used the oligarchs to restore a significant measure of its previous influence. Not as directly nor as obviously potent as the Communist Party, KGB security, Gosbank rouble, and the Red Army commands had been before 1991. Notwithstanding, the oligarchs have been effective in restoring personal influence with the Central Asian governing elites, obtaining thereby unique means to anticipate and neutralize such threats to Russian state interests as may have been in contemplation by the Americans. The Russians were able to do this by paying cash — at a minuscule fraction of the old Soviet price.
In the Anglo-American power centres, intent on establishing their own sway in the Central Asian states, the Russian payments have been, still are, regularly exposed and denounced as corruption and criminal fraud. From the Kremlin’s point of view, it was, still is, pure expedience, as Lenin had once explained: “A scoundrel may be of use to us just because he is a scoundrel.”

. . .

In Putin’s scheme of influence, Russian oligarchs have been granted licences to build lucrative cross-border businesses by doing what they had done inside Russia during the Yeltsin period. By individual bribery, by corrupting the administrative mechanisms of state asset privatization, and by schemes of offshore trading and capital transfer, these Russians acquired control of cashflows which were strategic for the countries concerned. These cashflows were transferred abroad, and shared with the ruling elites at home. The latter became thereby billionaire proprietors at their countries’ expense; and retainers in the Russian influence system.

. . .

The role of the Russian oligarchs will have run its course and served Kremlin strategy when or if – a big if — that union, and its executive, the Eurasian Economic Commission, will have become a bulwark of the Russian foreign trading system against anti-Russian moves by the EU. Until then – the time required may be longer than hoped for, the short term is especially unpredictable – the role of the Russian oligarchs reinforces Russian state objectives. Too, the Russian oligarch role serves as strategic insurance in a variety of Central Asian political succession races when, as in Ukraine at present, there is a fierce contest between “eastern” and “western” orientations, between Russia, the US, and the EU.


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