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January 26, 2022
Open Thread 2022-08

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Yesterday I watched part of a TV debate regarding the sabre-rattling around Ukraine.
Surprisingly, there was one guy holding a “german admiral” position + questioning NATO, even more surprisingly they also summoned the tele-presence of an actual russian, some Sputnik journalist.
Unsurprisingly, though, everybody failed to mention that the Kiev regime’s largest livestock industry consists of free-range Nazis, which is a key point.
A key point because it gives a 2nd or 3rd reason for Germany not having anything to do with this shitshow; because it demonstrates the nefarious political alignment of NATO…
…and in general because History has already proven without a shred of doubt that nobody has an obligation to suffer Nazis to live.
It’s a bastard quote, but a worthy quote still:
“Don’t forget, Nazis are human beings with emotions and aspirations, who can feel both joy and suffering like you and me – and still they deserve to be killed.”

Posted by: Misotheist | Jan 27 2022 9:37 utc | 101

Posted by: james | Jan 27 2022 6:54 utc | 89
I love flute music, classical concerts and jazz. A long long time ago I kind of played Telemann fantasies, but I abandoned since jack of all trades…
Check out Jorge Pardo’s music, I’m sure you’ll enjoy it. He played for many years with Paco de Lucía’s sextet and if you do a search in the tube you’ll find many impressive performances.
I chose this clip in particular for the percussion, it was Paco de Lucía who made the “cajón” a standard instrument in flamenco and jazz music, he picked it up in Perú where it is popular among the afro Peruvian community, he realized it is a lot less intruding and more malleable than the bongos he used in his first and best known hit “Entre dos Aguas”. Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJJ0aikRdrI
Let’s make music, not war.

Posted by: Paco | Jan 27 2022 9:47 utc | 102

@lex talionis | Jan 27 2022 9:31 utc | 100
The nice thing about open source (open source operating systems included) is that they are free. Here, “free” does not only mean free as in “free beer” but more importantly free as in “free speech”. You can use it without any restriction, you can inspect the source code if you so wish, and you can modify it if you want to. Many do, and that is why there are many Linux distros available.
Ubuntu derivatives are nice because there is a lot of information on the net if you have a question. Debian is the origin of Ubuntu which is the origin of Kubuntu, and there are many, many other distros. I like Kubuntu because it uses the KDE desktop. A Windows user would be right at home with KDE.
Installation of e.g. Kubuntu is very easy these days, but make sure you do it on a computer where you don’t run the risk of deleting important files. Once you are familiar with it you can back up your files and wave goodbye to Windows 🙂 Take your time.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 27 2022 9:52 utc | 103

(B, if I may post an English translation of a “tagesschau” item, instead of just the link to the original? They don’t provide anything in English. Thought it might not be fair to just leave your readers with the German original.)
Regarding Ukraine and the West’s war on Russia, some barflies have wondered about the German stance, especially government-wise and MSM-wise.
Here’s what I’d like to offer, an item from today’s news by our number-one public broadcaster.

Sanctions the only way forward
In the Ukraine crisis, NATO is challenged like rarely before. Secretary General Stoltenberg’s proposal points in the right direction. And Germany? Should provide a more impactful contribution instead of helmets.
Commentary by Helga Schmidt, ARD studio Brussels
Twenty years ago, at the height of detente between East and West, NATO plunged into a crisis of identity. Why maintain the highly armed defense alliance? The issue was seriously debated as one Warsaw-Pact country after another joined NATO, leaving behind a weakened and self-absorbed Russia. Surrounded only by a few last satellites.
Democracy seemed to be on the rise, and unstoppably so, in the form of rule of law and market economy. And one day, even that didn’t seem at all illusory at the time, one day Russia might become a part of it all.
Today, twenty years on, NATO is challenged like rarely before in its history. There is a serious threat of war in Europe, and from what we hear from the military experts, it is a very real risk.
NATO invites Russia to talks
In this situation, the long-awaited response from NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg to the Kremlin’s demands came yesterday evening. It’s a level-headed one. “We are ready to listen to Russia’s concerns and have a real discussion,” Stoltenberg said.
Putin might take this seriously if there were anything else on his radar besides conquering Ukraine. He could take up the offer of talks and negotiate with the West about a new security architecture in Europe. NATO invites Russia to do so and at the same time is unequivocal with a clear “No” when it comes to demands for withdrawal from Eastern Europe.
German arms deliveries would not change the picture
Putin himself knows best that this demand from his wish list was completely unrealistic. Now the question arises whether the “No” only provides him with the desired pretext for an attack. Nobody can say for sure at the moment – but it is relatively certain that potential German arms deliveries, which have just been the subject of heated debate, would change absolutely nothing.
Even the massive American military aid couldn’t change the picture for Ukraine. Arms worth more than $2.5 billion have gone there in just the last few years. The country’s security has not been improved by this in any significant way. Ukraine cannot stand up to the Russian army.
Serious economic sanctions expected
No one can seriously believe that German arms deliveries would change this imbalance. But what the partners rightly expect from the federal government is a clear commitment to serious economic sanctions.
Immediately aborting any commissioning of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline is part of this – not just as a measure of last resort, as Chancellor Scholz admitted far too hesitantly. Because in an emergency, it’s too late. And a clear “Yes” to Russia’s expulsion from international payment transactions – even if that would hit the German economy more than any other country in Europe.
Germany will just have to pay this price, because a trade freeze is the weapon that would really hit Russia’s elites and Putin’s treasury. In contrast, 5000 helmets and a few rusty howitzers from NVA stocks would rather not.

Does this speak for itself?

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Jan 27 2022 9:56 utc | 104

Western media is parroting the new narrative of “Russia attacking Ukraine on the beginning of Olympics, “because it did so in the past”. Oh boy…
Not that I think headlines have any effect on what will/can happen. It all depends what Ukros can arrange.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 27 2022 10:00 utc | 105

Norwegian #96
YES Ubuntu is great. I had not heard of Kubuntu but use Mint or Cinnamon here. I will check that one out.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 27 2022 10:11 utc | 106

Posted by: phiw13 | Jan 27 2022 9:10 utc | 99
GREAT. This is why I love MoA. Thank you.
There is no genocide without ideology.

Posted by: Jan | Jan 27 2022 10:13 utc | 107

@Norwegian 88

He already did, this was his original post
The Coronavirus – No Need To Panic
More interestingly is why the need for panic after all

Last I checked, the narrative at MoA was that ‘vaccines’ and boosters are great and work. Perhaps I missed something. In which case, good.
The larger and more important (to the masters) game in town is coming to the fore. It is the fight over the monetary system whose meltdown is fast approaching https://tomluongo.me/2022/01/25/whos-afraid-of-jerome-powell/.
Europe is looking like it wants to become a fully-fledged commy territory. I guess everyone forgot what it was like in the USSR.
Still this insanity of COVID continues…and whaddayaknow we have a new bogey man, its ridiculous. Wuhan scientists again are making wild claims: https://www.rt.com/news/547487-new-coronavirus-strain-found/
I am now almost certain COVID is and always was a distraction, something everyone could agree on (because health is important, right). We fight the death shots while the masters bleed us dry. This is how it always was.
Ooops, we will be told, COVID is no longer scary, we can go ‘back’ to the New Normal: no money, no freedom, please show us you lovely certificate.

Posted by: Idiocrates | Jan 27 2022 10:28 utc | 108

Paco #102

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJJ0aikRdrI
Let’s make music, not war.

YES – Magnificent music. Thank you.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 27 2022 10:29 utc | 109

@uncle tungsten 30

Whilst I appreciate Reiner Fuellmich has good intentions, I doubt he has good implementation.

Fair enough, but your doubts about implementation are still a mystery 🙂 Don’t get me wrong: I am no legal expert, far from it, but if you have valid points to make perhaps you should send them to Mr Fuellmich directly. Every little helps.
We all know about ‘good intentions’ and their worth. I am sure that this will be *precisely* the defense’s (if it comes to that) line used to justify the plandemic, death shots and everything else. They will say: we were following advice from experts and their and our intentions are good. Oh lord please don’t let me be misunderstood.

Posted by: Idiocrates | Jan 27 2022 10:53 utc | 110

Scotch Bingeington #104

Does this speak for itself?

Well it does speak “from today’s news by our number-one public broadcaster”. I take it that it is the BBC of Germany and if anything like the BBC has been fully occupied by the CIA tools in the German ‘intelligence’ community with a contribution from Integrity Initiative etc.
But does it speak for Germans and the German government? Of that I have no idea as I am too remote. I can only assume that the stenographer stacking game has been as wholly effective in Germany as it is in Australia, France, USA, UK etc.
We westies are submerged in the swamp of lies with the constant din of drums of war and hate, hate, hate. Germany is much closer to the pointy end of this convergence of ideology and economy.
I can see through it as can many others, so what is the German public perception of the westies pandering to the nazis in Ukraine and the proposal from Russia to all this NATO warmongering militarism?
The public broadcaster is unlikely to be speaking truth to power here.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 27 2022 10:56 utc | 111

English PM Boris Johnson confirms that UK troops could be sent to Estonia if Russia invades Ukraine, Johnson added that UK troops lead the Nato battle group in Estonia.
UK special forces are already in Ukraine training their troops, however Johnson claims UK troops will not be deployed in Ukraine if war breaks out.
The USA’s favourite minion is prepped and ready to go.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/pm-confirms-uk-troops-could-be-sent-to-estonia-if-russia-invades-ukraine/ar-AAT7VTU?ocid=uxbndlbing

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 27 2022 11:00 utc | 112

Q) What is this BBC/UK Govt. court case about?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/26/bbc-spy-story-case-will-not-heard-behind-closed-doors-government/
For the BBC to go to bat for the public interest against their masters is surprising?
The Govt say they are protecting an identity but, could not whatever they want to publish simply reference Spy X ?
Seems like it must be something acutely embarrassing to the FCO ?

Posted by: intp1 | Jan 27 2022 11:03 utc | 113

@Republicofscotland 112

The USA’s favourite minion is prepped and ready to go.

who fucking cares about the Royal Army and what they could do? those that matter (read the Russians) do not and in theory everything is possible. And Estonia? Hahah please, lets be serious. Let’s see what BoJo does next to distract attention from the brown stuff he is deeply into…

Posted by: Idiocrates | Jan 27 2022 11:08 utc | 114

This is funny and I am positively surprised to see ze germans still have a sense of humour: https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-01-26/germany-offers-ukraine-helmets-draws-kyiv-mayors-ire

Posted by: Idiocrates | Jan 27 2022 11:11 utc | 115

Chronicles of Democracy.
The Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs conducts searches at the home of former American diplomat Mark Vogel, who turned out to be a drug courier, in his “Anglo-American school”.
It’s great. Sometimes American diplomats dress up as women, sometimes American diplomats steal railway signs, sometimes they turn out to be drug couriers…
High class diplomacy.

Posted by: alaff | Jan 27 2022 11:15 utc | 116

It’s great. Sometimes American diplomats dress up as women, sometimes American diplomats steal railway signs, sometimes they turn out to be drug couriers…
High class diplomacy.
Posted by: alaff | Jan 27 2022 11:15 utc | 116
We only hire the best, the elites. The military is very fond of acting out overseas too, not just the diplomatic corps and the spooks. If you read Catch-22, for instance, it is important to know he is not inventing it all, just like Vonnegut in “Slaughterhouse 5”, they are speaking from personal experience.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 27 2022 11:26 utc | 117

re Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 27 2022 7:51 utc | 97
I wasn’t gonna say anything more but I appear to have offended you which was not my intention. Yes there is a plandemic separate and irrelevant to the actual pandemic. Whatever point of view one has about the lethality, cause, efficacy of vaxes, there can be little doubt that people of all points of view are getting played. People on all sides of the argument. This is plain from the way discussion of covid has morphed into just the latest branch of the elite driven culture wars, with corporate media driving a certain point of view and established alternative media another, both regardless of scientific developments. The actual truth of the issue if anyone has worked that put yet, is irrelevant to either of these schools of urgers, keeping people divided is what they are getting paid to achieve.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 27 2022 11:42 utc | 118

Does this speak for itself?
Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Jan 27 2022 9:56 utc | 104
Pretty much. The conclusion (we’ve got to punish Russia somehow) does not follow at all from the discussion (all the we meant well and look how reasonable we have been stuff). Disclosure: I only read the excerpt.
Even if she made the case Russia has been bad, that still does not mean attempts at punishment are the right approach, for that to be the right approach, it must have some chance of success, and it does not. Note there is no discussion of what “success” might look like either, when we might know we are done, or anything like that. Just blah blah blah, and then, we’ve got to pay the price to punish Russia, nothing else can work. So it boils down to the “we can’t do nothing” argument, so we must do something that won’t work.
The US “diplomats” are very fond of the parental approach because they think it means they do not have the explain themselves, instant authority, I’m your daddy.
I want to add that “doing nothing” is far and away the best option in many if not most of these situations and should be given a lot more consideration.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 27 2022 11:45 utc | 119

I dunno if this has been posted here recently but I’ve been using John Mersheimer’s 2015 lecture on what/why Ukraine in another forum today because it is particularly apt right now.
It goes without saying that I disagree with Mersheimer’s claim that amerikan democracy spreading is essentially benign, nevertheless he does accurately analyse the causes of this ‘crisis’ and who is at fault for being so damn stupid.
The interesting part is how little has changed in 7 years along with the blockheadedness of an amerika incapable of critically analysing any of their foreign policy.
If you haven’t seen this lately or ever before I strongly suggest a gander.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 27 2022 12:00 utc | 120

Jazz flute? Joseph Jarman & Nikki Mitchell.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 27 2022 12:00 utc | 121

Idiocrates @(114).
I’m not defending the UK the US or Nato, I’m well aware of who the aggressors are here, and of the 2014 coup in Ukraine, as well as Nato’s expansion East. I’m merely pointing out what the English PM says he’s going to do.
I’d have thought by my moniker, that you’d have guessed that I want to see the break up of the UK, specifically Scotland’s withdrawal from it.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 27 2022 12:17 utc | 122

intp1 @(113)
I have removed the paywall for you to read the contents of the story.
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2F2022%2F01%2F26%2Fbbc-spy-story-case-will-not-heard-behind-closed-doors-government%2F

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 27 2022 12:22 utc | 123

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 27 2022 12:00 utc | 121
Jeremy Steig, same list.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 27 2022 12:25 utc | 124

Posted by: Toxik | Jan 26 2022 22:32 utc | 21
Commerce Business Daily or wherever the Borg advertises it’s RFP’s. That is, if they left it up. It _was_ a major embarrassment. Having no sense of humor they probably did.

Posted by: kral | Jan 27 2022 12:27 utc | 125

Posted by: alaff | Jan 27 2022 11:15 utc | 116
Too bad there is not a way to upload screenshots, in that video of the Anglo-American School in Moscow it caught my eye in one of the classrooms a poster with a well picked up image of Fidel and a script in Spanish that says: “Fidel, Cuba does not love you, neither does Venezuela” ( 3:45). I wonder what has Fidel to do in an Anglo-American school in Moscow, they could’ve put a poster of let’s say Mark Twain, or Neil Armstrong, or John Lennon, but Fidel Castro? For things that matter there is no memory in the anglo crowd but boy oh boy, they never forget or forgive whomever stood up to their bullying.
PS. If anybody knows of a quick way to upload images, or a repository to be linked to I’ll be thankful for the tip.

Posted by: Paco | Jan 27 2022 12:28 utc | 126

re: Paul | Jan 27 2022 7:19 utc | 93
Reluctant as I am to get into anything else contentious given that the debate will get chocka with side issues providing much heat no light, unlikely to alter SFA, I cannot let some sort of seemingly self-congratulatory post about Aotearoa’s amerika’s cup campaign go past without pointing out the evil fuckers who are supporting it.
No, I’m not referring to that creep Dalton the ‘team’ (it’s actually a corporation not a team) boss, I’m talking about the UAE who thus far through their emirates airline actually underwrite the fucker which is known as ‘Emirates Team New Zealand’.
UAE is run by a bloke who abducts his children then keeps them drugged out to control them, beats & rapes his wife until she flees, then stalks her when she has run cos he can spend all of his nation’s money on whatever he likes, therefore buying up all the land around her bolthole is a doddle, but that is the least of his crimes as he has been the instigator and major participant in the genocide of the people of Yemen.
Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum the Prime Minister of UAE is Saudi boss MBS’s mentor & has blatantly stolen a big chunk of Yemen terriory to further the interests of UAE’s logistics/ port holding corporations.
If you care about sailing ask yourself why it is that despite the fact that tangata whenua, Aotearoa’s indigenous people are up there with the vikings in terms of being incredible seamen and navigators, there are few if any Maori permitted in Team NZ as this is a team sport for rich Pakeha’s and selected foreign whitefellas.
There is nothing for decent kiwis to celebrate in the amerika’s cup, a fact which has led to kiwis and their government’s reluctance to support it to the point where the ETNZ corporation is trying to hawk its fork to overseas venues, IE “pay us a few hundred million and we’ll hold the Cup at your joint and not in Aotearoa”.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 27 2022 12:41 utc | 127

@Republicofscotland 122
I was not attacking you, just merely being a bit explicit in the lingo. No offence meant.
FWIW I also support the breakup of the UK and Scotland’s departure from it. In any event, if Davos drowns the EU in bullshit and forces death shots upon it, I may have to dust off my UK passport and come back to ol’ blighty…but that is not something I would do willingly.
FYI: I spent part of my youth and student days in Manchester 🙂

Posted by: Idiocrates | Jan 27 2022 12:41 utc | 128

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 27 2022 9:52 utc | 103
Debian has KDE version, the Kubuntu is just a Ubuntu with KDE, better than that is KDE Neon, the problem, with Ubuntu and Ubuntu based distros , they are unstable, and they based on Debian Unstable version, Go to https://distrowatch.com/, MX Linux is based on Debian and is top of chart, By the way you always claim the Norway and Sweden are two different countries, Kristiania was the Capital of Norway-Sweden , it is now called Oslow!

Posted by: Grishka | Jan 27 2022 12:47 utc | 129

Its interesting to note that both France and Germany refused the UK the right to fly over its airspace on their way to deliver plane loads of weapons to Ukraine. Macron has already spoken of easing the pressure on Russia, and Germany would have much to lose (Russian gas) if it continued to pressurise Moscow.
One would think that already Moscow and Beijing are in full planning mode to counter the removal of SWIFT.
Is Russia’s redline aimed at Nato, a wake up call for the bullyboy club, that they cannot keep swaggering around the globe as gun for hire, and if Germany and France, the two big EU hitters cool on the plan to remove Putin, does that signal the end of Nato, and hopefully along with it the Atlanticists grip on Europe, I can only hope so, or we could be in for another lengthy cold war.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/01/25/patrick-lawrence-russias-red-line/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 27 2022 12:53 utc | 130

@Posted by: Paco | Jan 27 2022 12:28 utc | 126
https://imgur.com/upload
No Registration required

Posted by: awaiting approval | Jan 27 2022 12:55 utc | 131

Posted by: awaiting approval | Jan 27 2022 12:55 utc | 131
Thanks a lot, handy tool.
https://imgur.com/a/CmjRPjf
@OldHippie
Is that Nikki this Nicole? Sounds good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdson8DIdGs

Posted by: Paco | Jan 27 2022 13:09 utc | 132

Perfect weather for crash landing an F-35C
https://i.redd.it/fiigc99r17e81.jpg

Posted by: too scents | Jan 27 2022 13:10 utc | 133

@Idiocrates | Jan 27 2022 10:28 utc | 108
Look at the date pf that post (2020) and the kind of change that occurred.
It was a change in the wrong direction.
You didn’t miss anything that happened recently.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 27 2022 13:17 utc | 134

@Paco | Jan 27 2022 12:28 utc | 126

PS. If anybody knows of a quick way to upload images, or a repository to be linked to I’ll be thankful for the tip.

Try https://postimages.org/
No registration required, just use it

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 27 2022 13:23 utc | 135

@Grishka | Jan 27 2022 12:47 utc | 129

Debian has KDE version, the Kubuntu is just a Ubuntu with KDE, better than that is KDE Neon, the problem, with Ubuntu and Ubuntu based distros , they are unstable,

Kubuntu 20.04 LTS that I use is super stable. But use whatever you prefer, that is the whole idea.

By the way you always claim the Norway and Sweden are two different countries, Kristiania was the Capital of Norway-Sweden , it is now called Oslow!

What kind of nonsense is this? You have it mostly wrong. After 1905, The union between Norway and Sweden was dissolved. Before and after that the capitals were separate, Stockholm in Sweden and Kristiania in Norway. Kristiania was renamed in 1924 to Oslo, not what you suggest.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 27 2022 13:36 utc | 136

Good morning to the bar, from sunny and cold Montréal. Wild Canada for today —
“There’s this massive groundswell of investment into the space,” said Sarah Keyes, CEO of ESG Global Advisors. “It’s moved quickly, and it’s become like a wild west.” According to the Responsible Investment Association (RIA), the value of “sustainable funds” in Canada reached $18 billion at the end of the first quarter in 2021, representing a 160 per cent increase from 2020.”
http://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/wild-west-disclosure-guidance-for-esg-investing-leaves-investors-baffled-1.1712191
Brutal deaths of 4 people including infant trying to cross into the US recently —
“ “I do think it’s a warning shot,” said Friedman, who remarked about the enduring appeal life in the U.S. seems to hold for people all around the world.”
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/border-tragedy-warns-of-new-unfamiliar-immigration-wrinkle-for-canada-u-s-1.5750915
More on illegal immigration from Canada to US
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/it-s-about-money-not-people-immigration-experts-describe-human-smuggling-business-1.5756486
Thousands of decaying pig carcasses
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/net-zero-waste-pig-carcass-princeton-1.6329158
Omicron + spike in adoptions during lockdowns = lots of pressure on veterinarians
https://www.lapresse.ca/societe/animaux/2022-01-26/les-veterinaires-sous-pression-appellent-a-la-prevention.php

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jan 27 2022 13:45 utc | 137

Paco 132
Yes, that is her. Personally never heard her in that sort of world music mode, her range has always been huge.
Before she got the UCLA appointment used to see her very often. Usually AACM bop derived music. The de facto AACM big band would form at many gigs, she became the leader. Took a while for the guys to accept that a pale skinned young woman would be the one leading the band. She was always inside the music, always inventive, it went her way because she was just that good. Miss her. Tomeka Reid, on cello in that vid, is gaining prominence. Hamid on drums is becoming an elder and revered. The rest of the band not Chicago, dunno.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 27 2022 13:53 utc | 138

Paco @ 126 said; “For things that matter there is no memory in the anglo crowd but boy oh boy, they never forget or forgive whomever stood up to their bullying.”
Nailed it Paco…..

Posted by: vetinLA | Jan 27 2022 14:00 utc | 139

Forgive me for using Google Translator here, but my written English is just weak.
Because the topic came up and as an inmate in Germany and an active reader of the system media, I would like to describe my observation to those who are interested.
The media:
In the publicly funded media, similar to the BBC, basically the Pure Nato position is represented.
It also doesn’t matter if the nonsense has actually been refuted for a long time. It also doesn’t matter if the nonsense is simply illogical. The narrative is served.
The big private media are even worse.
Der Spiegel, a journalism institution 30 years ago, has become a single Pentagon/CIA/MI6 PR department.
Bild, the traditionally largest daily newspaper (much more 10 pages of lies, hate and shit) is Russophobic to such an extent that even the Guardian can learn a lesson, as they say in Germany.
The other publications (SZ, FAZ, Focus, Stern) put it a little prettier, but not differently.
When it comes to RU, CHN, IRN, you can market every stupid lie as a sure truth without consequences. Talk shows are always cast by the same people, everyone thinks they agree.
Intellectual group masturbation.
Sometimes it’s difficult to tell if the media drives politics or if it’s the other way around. Most likely a self-reinforcing loop.
In short: The average German lives in a matrix that has little to do with reality. On the one hand, politics contributes to this, on the other hand, it is caught in its own false narrative.

Posted by: Kartoschka | Jan 27 2022 14:07 utc | 140

Because Boeing, Frank Zappa, and “moon hoax” have been topics on MOA, I post this news:
The Federal Trade Commission announced Tuesday that it sued to block Lockheed’s $4.4 billion acquisition of Aerojet Rocketdyne (AJRD).
“The agency’s complaint alleges that if the deal is allowed to proceed, Lockheed will use its control of Aerojet to harm rival defense contractors and further consolidate multiple markets critical to national security and defense,” the FTC said.
Rocketdyne is the Canoga Park company that built the engines for all the big rockets in the 60s. They were owned by Boeing from about 1995 to about 2005. It would be “funny” to find tha Boeing lobbyists are blocking this deal.

Posted by: Platero | Jan 27 2022 14:09 utc | 141

@Eighthman #71
You said

Some sources say ASML is getting scared of China progress (as they should). Payback to the US and EU is going to be a b**ch once China gets those foundries flying past them.

My personal, direct experience is that the capability to produce chips at leading edge geometries is far more than just the actual foundry equipment. ASML, for example, is only one supplier of foundry equipment: photolithography.
The way a silicon wafer is processed to produce chips is that a series of planar operations is performed to form one layer, then the next layer is grown.
For each layer on the wafer, this process is performed many times: A layer of photoresist is put down, then the substance in question – whether metal for interconnect lines or doping for transistors or whatever is deposited. The photoresist is then etched away.
Photolithography is the equipment to do the removal of the photoresist.
But even that process isn’t straightforward. Even back in the early 2000s, the geometries were starting to get small enough that shapes put in photoresist would not result in sufficently correct shapes on silicon for the layer put down, because of the quantum nature of light. For much the same reason as the classic double slit experiment, light was blurring particularly around corners such that the resulting shape looked more like a blob than a corner. This is problematic because the processes are tuned to minimum width of metal – which are then often violated by these quantum effect caused mis-shapes. Hence the developed of OPC: optical proximity correction: the introduction into the layout – the physical representation of the design – modifications which enable the actual photoresist laid down to execute into the deposited layers, sufficient margin such that the final actual layer performs to minimum process requirements. I managed the Cadence/TSMC relationship when OPC was first introduced at TSMC, because of a company Cadence had acquired.
So back to ASML: they’re known primarily for not just lithography, but deep ultraviolet lithography because previous regular light lithography also becomes an issue as you get into low double digit/single digit nanometer processes. Or in other words, they’re a vital part of the production process but not the only one by any means.
But the above is just the physical production part of the foundry.
In reality, even if China re-creates ASML tech – will they be able to recreate the entire foundry value package?
As you can perhaps see from above – the interaction between a foundry, EDA and a customer isn’t so simple.
30 years ago, a customer could just give a foundry the layout and the chip would probably work just fine.
To create the layout, the foundry would provide its Spice deck (to enable the customer to run simulations of transistor and other device performance on their designed circuits), a DRC deck – design rules – to enable the customer to actually both implement their design into layout reality while meeting the requirements of the process, and an LVS deck – layout vs. schematic, basically a 2nd DRC type deck but which enabled a customer to verify that the physical layout would perform to the designed schematic.
When a customer handed off to the foundry, the foundry would run a DRC check; a fail meant the foundry would not make the chip – of if they did, they would take zero responsibility for functional failure.
Spice+DRC+LVS from foundry –> circuit design + layout –> foundry handoff.
However, even back in the early 2000s, the above wasn’t actually quite enough. You needed parasitic data, reliability data, etc etc.
By 45 nm, OPC was required.
All of these electrical and physical effects had to be incorporated into the EDA (electronic design automation) tools used to design chips. I’m sure there’s plenty more that’s been added since.
My point is: Can China replicate the support processes necessary for any customer to be able to successfully design into a new single digit nm foundry, even if they can produce the geometries? It isn’t just making LVS/DRC/Spice files anymore. Will the EDA companies support Chinese foundries? Or does China have to also recreate their own EDA tools?
As should be obvious from the above, the relationship between customer and foundry is far more intertwined than it used to be – and gets exponentially worse as the customer increases in size or pushes the process’ limits. I know this for a fact because as the EDA representative mediating between Cray and TSMC, for example, I was intimately involved in such processes.
I personally don’t see China being able to do this very quickly at all.
Nothing is impossible given enough money and time but short circuiting this is extremely difficult.
So let’s look at what China (or any other country) would need to do in order to ramp up a leading edge fab:
1) Construction: Siting, electricity, water, massive materials shipments in and out, HVAC, employees etc. 100% doable
2) Equipment: ASML, Applied Materials etc. Doable but those companies already employ some of the smartest and most experienced people from the entire world. Not so trivial to recreate, especially without significant time.
3) Process line tuning: SMIC has been doing this for years at far trailing edge geometries but had a lot of outside help. Presumably they’ve gotten better at it, so let’s say they can do it.
4) LVS/DRC/Spice/other deck production. This is rocket science at leading edge geometries and also requires a lot of experience and EDA as well as customer interaction.
I’ve been in shouting match meetings where TSMC and a customer were fighting over literally a minimum size square of metal. TSMC prohibited it because these were “unreliably manufacturable, more specifically the shape could not be reliably created hence the electrical performance could vary as much as 50%” even though they technically met the design rules (DRC above).
The customer didn’t care – they were creating analog circuits and just needed the blob to provide non-zero resistance so a 50% variance was fine.
I’ve also been in other meetings where customers pointed out to TSMC that their DRC or LVS or Spice decks were deficient in material ways.
Net net: it is highly speculative that any new leading edge China foundry is going to be able to replicate TSMC’s capabilities quickly.
I personally highly doubt it.
This isn’t to say China couldn’t create leading edge chips – they could do what AMD was doing back in the late 90s (where I worked): tuning the process/support setup even as the chips are being designed. Huawei, for example, is big enough that this could be economic. But AMD had a serious yield problem – we were getting 60% yield when Intel’s comparable processes were yielding 85%+; even disregarding Intel’s double digit fabs vs. AMD’s one, that is a serious business problem.
But it would be extremely difficult if the US government prohibits customer companies and/or EDA from doing business with this prospective China fab.
An EDA ban would cut them off from the tools outside customers use – this largely ends any possibility of outside customers for said fab except maybe Apple.
A customer ban would be more serious – even Apple would think about it before openly defying the US government.
The customer ban would also cut off this China foundry from the collective experience of the customer base – as I illustrated above, it matters a lot.
So in summary: China could probably relatively quickly produce leading edge chips if they are basically just building the foundries for Huawei or some similarly large scale customer. The yields and performance are likely to be sub-par vs. TSMC, but not really clear how much this matters from a top level business perspective. This would probably take 2-4 years if all of the equipment, supply, software etc were already in place. MUCH MUCH longer if not.
To re-create TSMC’s leading edge process capabilities as a fab – i.e. manufacturer for any/all customers around the world, this would take far, far longer even assuming the US doesn’t extend its ban-hammer.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 14:15 utc | 142

I previously posted a link by a European metals association noting silicon production was way down due to soaring electricity prices in Europe.
Soaring silicon prices mean higher costs of silicon products…like solar PV
The Era of Cheap Renewable Grinds To A Halt

Raw material shortages, notably in metals and minerals and polysilicon are impacting the renewable energy industry
The cost of solar panels, wind turbines, and EV batteries is climbing after years of declines
Solar panel prices had surged by more than 50 percent in the past 12 months alone. The price of wind turbines is up 13 percent and battery prices are rising for the first time ever

And as I write this, oil prices have breached $88 with no end in sight.
Natural gas in the US is $4.3x.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 14:20 utc | 143

I have a headache. On a lighter note – Kosovo has the Clintons, Canada has Ryan Reynolds
Ryan Reynolds Way coming to Ottawa
https://twitter.com/CBCTheNational/status/1486677873633095682?s=20
News from Kosovo, just for entertainment
https://www.google.ca/search?q=kosovo+news&client=safari&hl=en-ca&prmd=nvsxi&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjTjLzkj9L1AhXonGoFHRi2AI4Q_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=667&bih=325&dpr=2

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jan 27 2022 14:24 utc | 144

@Norwegian #96
Agree that there is no requirement to use Apple or Microsoft OS’s, don’t agree there is no need.
Linux has a lot of potential issues at scale. In particular, it is extremely subject to supply chain attacks because of its open source nature.
The bigger problem is applications. I haven’t monkeyed with MS Office wannabe copies like Libra or whatever for quite some time, but they were just awful before and I doubt they encompass the cross-Office app functionality that even 2007 era MS Office had.
And yes, you can use Google’s online versions – which are pretty good – but at the price of giving Google anything and everything you put on them.
All things considered, I’d recommend people just use what they have now rather than bother switching to some Linux based Windows or Apple OS projection.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 14:27 utc | 145

Agree that there is no requirement to use Apple or Microsoft OS’s
Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 14:27 utc | 144

Microsoft controls the root signing certificate required to authenticate any OS that runs on the ‘PC’ platform.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 27 2022 14:42 utc | 146

Here is the same kind of report claiming “Russia cuts gas supplies to Europe”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/26/australia-could-send-extra-gas-to-europe-as-russia-cuts-supplies-due-to-ukraine-tensions
I’d be interested in b’s take on this. This ‘Europe-will-not-be-blackmailed’ crap and faux solidarity with Germany from US, Australia, UK, etc seems like one last ditch attempt to stop NATO from heading into the dustbin of history.

There is only one small….. teeny…. itsy…. problem with this plan….
Australia’s gas fields… stolen from TimorEste…. are declining rapidly…..
https://crudeoilpeak.info/australia-is-exporting-itself-gas-poor-plans-lng-import-terminals
Given Aus is planning to import LNG… exactly how is it going to export LNG???
INDY

Posted by: George W Oprisko | Jan 27 2022 14:43 utc | 147

The good news(?): The Fed didn’t do what clearly some in the markets thought – they didn’t back off their inflation fighting stance.
“monetary policy will become significantly less accommodative”
[The Fed will] “move over time to a policy that is not accommodative”
“A significant threat to the labor market is high inflation”
This is good news though, because this is basically what they said in December.
The bad news:
[The Fed plans] “for significantly reducing” its balance sheet, and that in the longer run, it intends to shed its holdings of mortgage-backed securities (MBS) entirely. The Committee members voted unanimously for this plan.
The balance sheet reduction would take place “in a predictable manner”
This is new.
The real bad news: It is far from clear that the Fed’s present plan – rate hike in March followed by likely 2,3 more rate hikes – is going to have any effect whatsoever on inflation. Barring a 0.5% or 1%+ rate hike, 3 or 4 hikes will raise the interest rate 1% vs. the 7%-ish inflation going on now.
Recall Volcker raised interest rates to 20% peak in order to tame comparable inflation in the 1980s.
10%+ Fed prime rates dropped inflation in half (from 11%) in 1974 but that lasted only 2 years – after which kicked off the spiral that ended with the Volcker spike.
A comparable increase today vs. 1974 would require an increase in prime rate of 7.5%.
A comparable increase today vs. the Volcker spike would require an increase in prime rate of 13.75%
Oh, and of course 1973-1974 also saw an epic bear market: The Dow Jones Industrial average dropped 45%.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 14:58 utc | 148

Russia on the other hand wisely went in the opposite direction to develop their own “national operating system” based on Linux around the same time as when the Chinese-Microsoft deal was made. No idea on when it’s expected to roll out.
The OS has been out for years……
It is freely downloadable….
INDY

Posted by: George W Oprisko | Jan 27 2022 14:59 utc | 149

@146 “Given Aus is planning to import LNG… exactly how is it going to export LNG???”
With their new nuclear submarines of course.

Posted by: dh | Jan 27 2022 15:05 utc | 150

Omicron deaths exceed Delta peak
Omicron deaths in US exceed Delta peak in WSJ
So given we have roughly 2.5x the number of infections as during the Delta peak, does that mean the vaccines only provide 60% protection? Or less as we’re not at peak yet?
It will be interesting to see the final numbers in 2,3 months…

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 15:05 utc | 151

Over at Saker auslander wrote a comment about Crimea:

Here’s what really happened
The coup d’eta in Kiev in ’13-early ’14, which my tax dollars (I still paid US taxes back then, I don’t now as all my business ain’t there anymore) paid 5 BILLIONS for, had one goal and one goal only, which was to make this huge village of Sevastopol the base for the American Black Sea Fleet, pure and simple.
American Navy and Marine officers were already in Sevastopol and in Feodosya on the south coast for several years and had mapped out where the US Black Sea Fleet HQ would be (at the west terminus of Ulitsiya Bogdanova, the main drag on North Side) and had actually started renovations on the two main schools, Gymnasium #5 and School #40, off Ulitsiya Simonok (Simonka).
The entire west end of North Side was to be Little America, going from Rahdio Gorka (Radio Hill) district on the north side of the harbor mouth all the way north to the village of Lubimovka along the main north/south road and all the way down to The Sea and the best beaches in this village.
All the locals were to be put out (including us).
School #5 (entirely different location from Gymnasium #5) at the west end of Bogdanova was to be the location of the actual HQ and the large Spetznaz Base next to it was to be flattened for additional buildings for HQ.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 27 2022 15:10 utc | 152

@George W Oprisko 146

There is only one small….. teeny…. itsy…. problem with this plan….
Australia’s gas fields… stolen from TimorEste…. are declining rapidly….

I think there is another BIG problem with this: it is all clearly BS.
Alexander Mercouris discusses this in his latest analysis.

Posted by: Idiocrates | Jan 27 2022 15:10 utc | 153

Reply to 141: Thank you for your input. The details testify to how extremely difficult this technology is to build out.
Micron is leaving China ( DRAM) in part because they say China is poaching its people with higher salaries, stock options. They will buy or steal whatever is needed.
https://developingtelecoms.com/telecom-business/partner-spotlight/11567-china-gets-serious-about-microchips.html
We should witness solid progress on this front within this year, perhaps enough to make any sanctions irrelevant. China doesn’t have to dominate, just get by for now.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 27 2022 15:11 utc | 154

Debian has KDE version, the Kubuntu is just a Ubuntu with KDE, better than that is KDE Neon, the problem, with Ubuntu and Ubuntu based distros , they are unstable, and they based on Debian Unstable version, Go to https://distrowatch.com/, MX Linux is based on Debian and is top of chart,
I use MxLinux. It’s medium weight, has a KDE version, is well supported, and is compatible with the Debian libraries…
I recommend MxLinux…
INDY

Posted by: George W Oprisko | Jan 27 2022 15:12 utc | 155

My point is: Can China replicate the support processes necessary for any customer to be able to successfully design into a new single digit nm foundry, even if they can produce the geometries? It isn’t just making LVS/DRC/Spice files anymore. Will the EDA companies support Chinese foundries? Or does China have to also recreate their own EDA tools?
China is already competent in the entire FAB chain…
China has a very deep pool of motivated high quality engineering talent.
SMIC is producing 7nm wafers in small batches…. NOW!
INDY

Posted by: George W Oprisko | Jan 27 2022 15:14 utc | 156

They will buy or steal whatever is needed.
Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 27 2022 15:11 utc | 153

What is China stealing by having different IP philosophy than the West?

Posted by: too scents | Jan 27 2022 15:24 utc | 157

@too scents #145
Incorrect. Microsoft controls the root certificate to certify Windows on any PC platform.
They DO NOT control any certificate for PC hardware.
You can install Linux or whatever.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 15:32 utc | 158

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 15:32 utc | 157

By controlling the root cert Microsoft controls revocation.
It is important to understand how the chain of trust works if you car about your security.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 27 2022 15:36 utc | 159

@Eighthman #153
China has been poaching from TSMC and other companies for decades – this isn’t new.
For that matter, they recently got Chiang Shang Yi to work in SMIC. Shang Yi is a legend at TSMC.
The problem is still that the full semiconductor supply chain is highly intertwined, as I attempted to demonstrate above.
Stealing the people to make the fabs is still a far cry from replicating what a leading edge foundry does. Even uprooting the entire TSMC design support team (the guys who deal with customers and issue the DRC/LVS/spice etc) wouldn’t solve the problem because the data and processes would have to go with them too.
But as I said, we will see.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 15:36 utc | 160

@George W Oprisko #155
You can create a 7nm chip in a lab. So what.
You clearly didn’t read what I posted – actually fabbing chips is a lot more complex than slapping out the silicon.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 15:38 utc | 161

@c1ue | Jan 27 2022 14:27 utc | 144

Agree that there is no requirement to use Apple or Microsoft OS’s, don’t agree there is no need.

This is decided by individuals. If you think there is a need, there is a need. But my main point is that Linux is just as capable as the two others, and in fact more so.

Linux has a lot of potential issues at scale. In particular, it is extremely subject to supply chain attacks because of its open source nature.

This I fundamentally disagree with. Open source means that every change in the code is reviewed by many people in a very formal process. So the chance of malicious attach is far less than in closed systems like Windows where no-one outside MS get to see the code changes. And NSA and the like can agree with MS to install some spyware withou anyone knowing. Therefore Windows is much more dangerous for end users.

The bigger problem is applications. I haven’t monkeyed with MS Office wannabe copies like Libra or whatever for quite some time, but they were just awful before and I doubt they encompass the cross-Office app functionality that even 2007 era MS Office had.

It is a strategy for MS to bind users to their applications, like MS Office so you have a harder time changing OS. I am deliberately not a proficient MS Office user (I hate Excel 🙂 ) and Run Libre Office on both Linux and Windows. To me, it does the job just fine, but I don’t use office applications much.
But in other areas there is just an enormous amount of applications available for Linux, most of them are excellent.

And yes, you can use Google’s online versions – which are pretty good – but at the price of giving Google anything and everything you put on them.

Indeed, that I would never consider for that exact reason.

All things considered, I’d recommend people just use what they have now rather than bother switching to some Linux based Windows or Apple OS projection.

Sure, if it works don’t fix it. But If you want to try, go ahead.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 27 2022 15:38 utc | 162

@Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 26 2022 23:00 utc | 31
@Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 26 2022 23:00 utc | 31
Let me ask if I understand correctly:
You are saying that, in the period of three weeks, on at least three occasions, you came in the contact with otherwise healthy people and after that they all came sick?
About month ago, my wife and I were at the gatherings of mixed, vaxxed and unvaxxed people. One person came with “cold” but tested negative an hour before the gathering. All people get sick after that regardless of their vaccination status. It took me about ten days to recover. My wife hardly had any symptoms (and she is immune compromised).
Neither of us is vaccinated.
I personally know only one unvaccinated person that went to the hospital and two that had tough time but never went to hospital. That is all for the two years of pandemic.

Posted by: Haman’s 10th Son | Jan 27 2022 15:39 utc | 163

@too scents #158
You continue to confuse software and hardware.
Hardware is a motherboard and CPU.
The motherboards have NO internet facing software; bioses are generally burned into EPROMs.
The CPUs also have NO internet facing software. The newer ones do have hooks with a software program can access but the CPUs are Intel, not Microsoft.
You need a peripheral to supply access to the internet.
None of these hardware devices have ANYTHING to do with Microsoft.
For that matter, Microsoft OS resides on the hard drive, which itself is a peripheral on the motherboard. Erase the hard drive, no more Microsoft.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 15:42 utc | 164

@Norwegian #161
Re Security:
Your notion of open source software being secure is out of date and wrong.
Paul Vixie – an icon of the open source world, was one of the 2 people who originally said that open source software was more secure publicly more than a decade ago. Paul Vixie Wiki
I was in the same room with him when he retracted that statement 5 years ago.
The reason he said it originally was that, at the time, there were millions of lines of code but thousands of open source contributors. The likelihood of any one line of code having been reviewed by one or more people besides the creator was very high.
However, today there are tens of billions of lines of open source code but the contributor pool is about the same. The likelihood of any line of open source code having been reviewed by even 1 person is nil.
Nor is Paul Vixie the only one. Bruce Schneier, another legend but in the cyber security space, published this late last year
Open Source Does Not Equal Secure

On average, vulnerabilities in their libraries go four years before being detected.

Open source means that the code is available for security evaluation, not that it necessarily has been evaluated by anyone. This is an important distinction.[Github research]

Re: MS Office
I agree totally about the MS strategy, but that is irrelevant.
It is a better product, plain and simple.
The reality is that most people use their computers to almost exclusively read email, surf the web and play games. You can do the first 2 with anything – Linux, a 2004 era Pentium 4 computer (my mother was using one since 2004 until I replaced it with a $95 used i3, Windows 10 machine last weekend), MacOS, iOS, whatever.
Games – not so much. You could still play them with a sufficiently powerful machine that runs an emulator though – VM or otherwise.
But now we’re firmly in the area where you have to be a semi-serious techie to get it working and keep it working.
Most people just don’t want the bother.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 15:55 utc | 165

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 15:32 utc | 157

You have a number of naive fundamental misunderstandings about how things work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preboot_Execution_Environment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine
http://i.blackhat.com/us-18/Thu-August-9/us-18-Domas-God-Mode-Unlocked-Hardware-Backdoors-In-x86-CPUs-wp.pdf
All trust on ‘PC’ platforms is subordinate to Microsoft.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 27 2022 16:02 utc | 166

Re: Post #147
I should have also added notes on relative inflation.
Inflation of 11% in 1974 is very different than 7% inflation today.
For one thing, the “prime rate” matters. The prime rate prior to 1974 was around 5%-6% – thus “real” inflation was 5% to 6% (actual inflation minus risk free money growth i.e. prime rate).
The prime rate today is 3.25%, thus “real” inflation is only 3.75%.
Similarly, for Volcker’s Big Bang inflation attack, prime rates were 9% to 11% in the few years leading up to the Big Bang, so “real” inflation in 1979 or 1980, for examples, was actually negative.
There are plenty of arguments over whether the “real” inflation impact is linear or not – I’d bet not – but the key point is that Volcker’s Big Bang worked by imposing massive negative “real” inflation. And he did it in no small part because imposing small negative “real” inflation didn’t work in the multiple years prior to the 20% prime rate in 1980 – which saw a negative “real” inflation of -6.45%.
The point being: if the Fed raises rates to 7% to create zero “real” inflation, all they’re doing is replicating what the Fed did in the early to mid-70s – which didn’t work.
If they fail to raise rates to 7% (or of course, if inflation goes down on its own), thus leaving positive “real” inflation, then why exactly would it do a damn thing?

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 16:12 utc | 167

@too scents #165
No, you are just too stupid for words.
The Pre-Boot Execution Environment is the BIOS I already referenced – and NONE of the bios companies are Microsoft.
The other 2 links are INTEL not MICROSOFT.
You clearly don’t seem to understand that these are 2 different companies.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 16:16 utc | 168

And to add to the above:
too scents is so stupid he may not even realize that Apple used Intel CPUs for 15 years before starting to make its own.
So you could format an Apple and make it Windows, and vice versa.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 16:18 utc | 169

too scents is right.

Posted by: bjd | Jan 27 2022 16:21 utc | 170

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 16:16 utc | 167

What was the quid pro quo Gates agreed with Bush Jr. after CIA man Clinton had MS convicted of monopoly anti-trust? What was Clinton’s motivation?
Qui bono?

Posted by: too scents | Jan 27 2022 16:22 utc | 171

Posted by: Jan | Jan 27 2022 0:28 utc
If you speak Russian, Jan, go to u-tube find Anatolij Sharij blog, outstanding, accurate and almost up to the hour.

Posted by: Baro | Jan 27 2022 16:40 utc | 172

Gruesome images
Ukrainian soldier shot 10 Ukrainian soldiers and fled with weapons
The situation in the Ukrainian army seems chaotic

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 27 2022 16:47 utc | 173

DeFi = much scamming
Mark Cuban’s Crypto Lesson on Business Insider

Back when the token crashed, Cuban told Bloomberg he was “rugged,” a reference to a crypto scam called a rug pull, but added that it was his fault for “being lazy.”

A rug pull refers to a scam in which the makers of a token cash out their gains after launching the crypto project. As the market for cryptocurrencies has soared, so has the number of scams. Rug pulls, which are mainly related to DeFi tokens, cost investors nearly $3 billion in 2021, according to one estimate.

$3 billion seems too high – probably referencing the maximum “paper” gains affected or maybe the peak value of bitcoins or whatever converted to said DeFi scammer token.
But the actual number is probably pretty significant still.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 16:48 utc | 174

Microsoft equals CIA, full stop
Snowden revealed that Microsoft had opened up backdoors in some of their software
for the benefit of the CIA/NSA/FBI.
Bill Gates made Mike Howard…
[In Mike Howard’s words: “former” member of the
“Directorate of Operations or DO as we called it back then.
It was the clandestine arm of the CIA and where the espionage activities took place.”]
…head of security for all infrastructure at Microsoft.
Bill Gates gave away the keys to the store to a member of the “clandestine arm of the CIA”.
*Head of security for all infrastructure at Microsoft* was CIA.
You know this could continue. There is more about out there regarding
the ties between the CIA and Microsoft.

Posted by: librul | Jan 27 2022 16:57 utc | 175

Baro 171, Shari is worth his weight in gold. Go to his site, sometimes English subs appear although it’s far from often. My wife listens to him every day and his breadth and insight is right up there. She of course tells me all.
Auslander

Posted by: Auslander | Jan 27 2022 17:00 utc | 176

@too scents #170
Wow, piling stupidity on top of stupidity.
Once again: relate to me how Microsoft influences Intel’s CPU design or the many companies that create BIOS’ and make motherboards.
Better yet, detail how exactly Microsoft’s “root certificate” means jack shit for a PC.
Where exactly does the “Microsoft root certificate” get checked in the bootup process?
By who or what?
Where does the certificate reside?
Show an example of this signing process in operation, and also an example of a fail.
I have created non-Microsoft booting capabilities – ways to circumvent default MS, Linux, MacOS and other storage based operating systems as part of a forensic data capture system – so I have hands-on direct experience working in and on the bootup process. I have even used (I didn’t create it) software which circumvented the majority of the BIOS systems such that I could enable 2020 era peripherals in 2006 era hardware – by booting into a temporary OS from CD and/or floppy/3.5″ disk.
So I have not only extensive experience booting non-MS operating systems on PCs, I also have extensive experience writing and operating custom operating systems (based on Linux) on said PCs including reaching all the way back to the 2nd stage BIOS operations (1st stage is system check, 2nd stage is input peripheral check – basically the DVD/CD/disk peripherals).

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 17:03 utc | 177

Michael Hudson interview at Saker:
The Saker interviews Michael Hudson

Posted by: spudski | Jan 27 2022 17:10 utc | 178

At the instigation of the Outlaw US Empire, China’s Wang Yi told Blinken to adhere to promises previously made, and to obey International Law relative to Ukraine:
“At the request of the US, Wang had a phone call with Blinken on Thursday to discuss bilateral relations and the Ukraine crisis, according to a news release by the Chinese Foreign Ministry.
“Wang warned during the conversation that the US should implement the positive response made by US President Joe Biden in the previous China-US virtual summit in November, and stop interrupting the Beijing 2022 Winter Olympic Games and stop playing with fire on the Taiwan question and creating various anti-China ‘cliques.’
“During the virtual summit in November, Chinese President Xi Jinping put forward the three principles of mutual respect, peaceful coexistence and win-win cooperation, Wang said to Blinken.
“‘President Biden responded positively, saying that the US does not seek a ‘new Cold War,’ does not seek to change China’s system, does not seek to act against China by revitalizing its alliances, does not support ‘Taiwan independence,’ and has no intention to have a conflict or confrontation with China, thus sending a positive message in contrast to the previous administration,’ Wang remarked.
“‘However, what the world has seen is that there has been no substantive change in the keynote of the US side’s China policy and President Biden’s stated position has not been fully implemented. The US side is still sticking with erroneous words and deeds related to China,’ he stressed.” [My Emphasis]
So, as we saw with Trump, Biden’s attempts to blaze a different path regarding China are also blocked. IMO, that has important bearing on the response made to Russia and a major reason why the request to keep it private.
On Ukraine, Wang said the Outlaw US Empire must obey the UNSC Resolution 2202 which is the Minsk Agreement:
“The new Minsk agreement, endorsed by the UN Security Council, is a basic political document recognized by all parties and should be implemented earnestly. China will support any effort that conforms to the direction and spirit of this agreement, Wang noted.
“‘The reason why the Ukraine situation has become intense again is that the US is trying to violate the new Minsk agreement as it’s supplying weapons to Ukraine and trying to deploy more weapons in the region, and even seeking an expansion of NATO, so these will surely cause a reaction from Russia,’ said Yang Jin, an associate research fellow at the Institute of Russian, Eastern European and Central Asian Studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.
“Wang said ‘At the same time, we call on all parties to remain calm and refrain from inflaming tensions or hyping up the crisis. The security of one country should not be at the expense of the security of others, and regional security should not be guaranteed by strengthening or even expanding military blocs.'” [My Emphasis]
Note Wang’s quoting the basis of Russia’s security demands. I very much doubt that
“Blinken also [honestly] briefed Wang Yi on the US position on the Ukrainian issue” since he lies about it constantly.
The upshot is China has Russia’s back 100%+ and is very aware of the ongoing duplicity in policy toward it while diplomatically demanding it stop. However, I think it’s quite clear to China that the Outlaw US Empire has zero honor. Wang stressed his desire there be no repetition of 2008 with Ukraine playing Georgia’s role.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 27 2022 17:11 utc | 179

For the first time since I began to follow this site, I could not post a link to an interview with a relevant economist, one who is often linked here.
Is there a list of sites which are banned here, for the purposes of posting links, that I should know about?

Posted by: spudski | Jan 27 2022 17:19 utc | 180

Wang stressed his desire there be no repetition of 2008 with Ukraine playing Georgia’s role.
that’s exactly what’s going on.

Posted by: annie | Jan 27 2022 17:26 utc | 181

Apologies, my submission was posted. Must have been awaiting moderation – first time for that for me. Sorry!!

Posted by: spudski | Jan 27 2022 17:29 utc | 182

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 17:03 utc | 176

Rather than insult me, perhaps give Mathew Garrett a follow. He has been dealing with UEFI secure boot for a decade now.
Notice his employment issues.
https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/

Posted by: too scents | Jan 27 2022 17:32 utc | 183

Debsisdead | Jan 27 2022 2:45 utc &. Tom_Q_Collins
There is a lot of truth to what you say, debsisdead —
1 that most people have taken a position about what to believe
2 that these opinions are based on incomplete or faulty information
3 that any further discussion should, if one is sincere about the betterment of ordinary peoples’ lives, consider first if one’s covid comments aid and abet the interests and power of the ruling elites (whichever ‘side’ they advocate) or not.
One problem is that your assessment automatically assumes decisions are being made solely based on emotion rather than logic because of the inferior information available. It is not an either or process imo.
If one has decided that this may be GOF 21st century viral pandemic (so there exist systemic unknowns), regardless of the endless media hysteria or endless Great Barrington media-related assurances, and if one has a cautious disposition, then skepticism and caution is a logical response, not a purely emotional response. (Although why cling to life so dearly?)
Similarly if one doesn’t care that the virus has moderate to high probability of originating from a lab escape, or believes it unlikely, and one has a less cautious disposition, then he or she will exhibit different behavior.
Both are logical positions for the individuals involved who have very different dispositions. While emotions can be ‘purified’ — that is, rid of delusions and illusions, they still remain intertwined with logic universe of cause and result.
~~
Some time ago james suggested having a covid thread. That would allow people to ask questions and receive some guidance and clarification without cluttering up the core threads. I did not respond earlier, not wanting to clutter the thread. But now that I am here doing just that,
I respond to Tom: Data is now available from CA and NY comparing the immunity status of people and their disease experiences from omicron.
Those
1 completely naive
2 the vaxxed x2
3 the vaxxed with booster
4 with natural immunity
5 with natural immunity and vaxxed
Are compared. The chart of hospitalization for these groups from both states are similar. The top line of the graph looks like a mountain and is of people with naive immunity, that is no previous exposure and no vaccination.
The other four lines run along the bottom of the graph, along the bottom of the mountain like a river, in relatively straight lines, in descending order but closely clustered, showing people with both natural immunity and vax have experienced the best protection against severe disease from omicron. Of course varies with individuals as well.

Posted by: suzan | Jan 27 2022 17:40 utc | 184

Posted by: jinn | Jan 27 2022 3:25 utc who wrote:
“So unless TPTB have suddenly become attracted to shooting themselves in the foot, I can’t see how covid would be their creation. “
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Bio lab escape would not take more than incompetence, neglect and misfortune. Covering it up would take more, like arrogance etc. it’s the cover up that usually shoots in the foot.

Posted by: suzan | Jan 27 2022 17:41 utc | 185

Lavrov made several appearances before the media over the last two days I haven’t seen reported. First is this very short Q&A following Government Hour at the State Duma of the Federal Assembly yesterday that generated a few soundbites that were posted:
“Question: Do we link the threats of more sanctions coming our way that we heard from the United States and the EU yesterday to the talks on security guarantees?
“Sergey Lavrov: What we see is that all our Western colleagues, without exception, are caught up in a ‘military’ frenzy of sorts. “We will punish you,’ ‘you will attack,’ ‘we will punish you and save Ukraine,’ ‘you’ll get more than you bargained for’ and so on, is all you hear from them. You read the dramatic language that the West uses to state its positions. We are ready for all scenarios. We didn’t attack anyone. We have always been attacked in the past. Those who did so invariably got what they deserved. So, I will not speculate about what our Western partners may pull next. Clearly, they are befuddled and not really sure how to get out of the corner they have painted themselves into. We are prepared to reliably defend the interests and security of our country, as well as the security of our citizens [Most Donbass residents are Russian citizens].
“Question: Regarding Andrey Turchak’s remarks about the need to supply aid to the DPR and LPR in the form of certain types of weapons. Will there be such supplies? Will we send our military there?
“Sergey Lavrov: We support the unconditional implementation of the Minsk agreements, which Ukraine is currently sabotaging. The Western handlers of the Ukrainian regime, including the Americans during President Putin’s meeting with President Biden in Geneva in June 2021, assured us that they will push for Kiev to fulfil its obligations under the Package of Measures signed in Minsk in 2015 in terms of ensuring a special status for Donbass. I believe this obligation lies with the West which must ensure that Kiev honours the Minsk agreements. Then, there will be no more questions. I really hope that this is how things will turn out….
“Question: What can you say about Jens Stoltenberg’s latest statement that NATO is considering the possibility of scaling up its military presence on the eastern flank?
“Sergey Lavrov: I stopped considering his statements a long time ago. I think he lost touch with reality.” [My Emphasis]
Here’s Lavrov’s full reply to the “what next” question after getting the Outlaw US Empire’s answer. What follows is IMO the most important parts of his reply:
“Sergey Lavrov: I believe that the general public will know the essence of this document soon. As our American colleagues have said, although they would like to keep this document confidential so as to provide space for confidential talks, they have coordinated it with their allies and with Ukraine. Are they sure that it will not be leaked very soon?
“As for the essence of the document, the responses offer grounds for serious talks only on matters of secondary importance. There is no positive response to the main issue, which is our clear stand on the continued NATO enlargement towards the east and the deployment of strike weapons that can pose a threat to the territory of the Russian Federation, which we consider unacceptable. This stand did not appear out of the blue. As you may know, the issue of NATO’s non-enlargement or enlargement, however you put it, has a long history. In the early 1990s, or more precisely in 1990, when Germany was reunified and the issue of European security was raised, they solemnly promised that NATO would not expand even an inch eastward beyond the Oder River. These facts are well known and have been included in many memoirs by British, US and German officials. But now that this issue has become a matter of fierce debates, we have been told that the promises were only verbal. When we mentioned the memoirs, our Western partners responded that they were not serious and that their words were misinterpreted. They chose a rather immature way to explain the reckless expansion of the alliance.
But now that we have cited the promises made not in word but in the form of documents signed by the leaders of all OSCE states, including the US President (the 1999 Istanbul Declaration and the 2010 Astana Declaration), our Western partners have to find a way out of a very serious situation. The point is that both declarations set out the participating states’ commitment to the principle of indivisible security and their pledge to honour it without fail. This principle was formulated very clearly. It includes two interconnected approaches. The first is the freedom of states to choose military alliances. The second is the obligation not to strengthen their security at the expense of the security of other states. In other words, the freedom to choose security arrangements is conditioned by the pledge to respect the security interests of any other OSCE state, including the Russian Federation.
“It is indicative that now when we propose coordinating legally binding security guarantees in the Euro-Atlantic region, our Western colleagues respond by urging us to respect the coordinated principles of security guarantees in that region. After saying this, they add that this means that NATO has a right to expand, and nobody can prohibit it from considering any country’s request for joining the alliance. The principle according to which no state may strengthen their security at the expense of the security of other states is being deliberately ignored. Our Western partners make no mention of the Istanbul or the Astana declarations during the ongoing discussions on European security. They are keeping away from this matter. We cannot accept this. They explained their failure to honour the non-enlargement promises in the 1990s by the absence of written obligations, but such promises were given in writing later. They have been reaffirmed within the OSCE framework several times, including at the top level. We will now focus on getting clarity regarding this hypocritical position of our Western partners.” [My Emphasis]
Here is a doozie!
“During my talks with Antony Blinken in Geneva, I asked him to explain why they regard the obligations made within the OSCE as a menu from which they are free to choose the dishes that taste good to them, and why they are disregarding or talking round their pledge to honour the interests of other countries. Mr Blinken did not reply to my question. He only shrugged his shoulders, and that’s it.” [My Emphasis]
Lavrov’s reply to such insolence and utter lack of professionalism:
“I told him, just as I have told our other colleagues, that we would shortly send them an official request for an explanation why they choose only one of their commitments and disregard the other commitments on which its implementation depends. It will be an official request sent to all countries whose leaders signed the Istanbul and Astana declarations. I hope that it will not take them long to explain the Western position.”
The crooks have been caught red-handed and their attempts at alibis have failed. I’ve linked to the documents in question on several occasions, and they’re available at my VK Space and easily found online. It’s unfortunate that those involved can’t simply be sent to the Principle’s Office and made to perform detention or perform community service or something like that since they’re acting like juveniles. Here in Oregon, we have a special school for such miscreants, but these adults deserve Nuremburg since their actions are murderous.
Lavrov closes by telling us what’s now happening:
“We are analysing these two documents as a package, because they have been provided in response to the draft treaty and draft agreement we proposed in December 2021. After an inter-agency coordination of our conclusions, we will submit them to President Vladimir Putin, who will make a decision on our further actions.”
And so we get to wait some more!

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 27 2022 18:10 utc | 187

@187 Blinkers sees it as hitting the ball back into Putin’s court. Just a game really.
The short version is “US/NATO will do what it wants. The Europeans won’t complain. What are you going to do about it?”

Posted by: dh | Jan 27 2022 18:25 utc | 188

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutton/2020/08/05/china-builds-surveillance-network-in-international-waters-of-south-china-sea/?sh=d408e4374f3b
I think there could be a way forward in driving the US out of the South China Sea ( and then maybe China regaining Taiwan). I see no reason why China couldn’t electronically surveil the sea so thoroughly that every vessel the size of a private fishing boat and above would be precisely monitored by GPS position. They could build out a “war room” like Dr Strangelove and invite US Navy brass to visit it – and take note of the real time targeting data. Magnetometers, satellites, sonar, etc. They could send out emails or radio warnings with precise details of speed and position. Carrier morale might collapse.
Imagine walking down an alley and having laser dots follow you from waiting snipers.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 27 2022 18:26 utc | 189

I have no idea how accurate this is but a map showing the Russ dialects in the current borders of Ukraine. Number 4 is the dialect the clowns have chosen as the official language as per the second link.
http://languagesoftheworld.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Map_of_Ukrainian_dialects_en.png
https://www.liquisearch.com/ukrainian_language/current_usage/dialects
Most pre 2014 language maps of Ukraine will look something like these.
https://newcoldwar.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Languages-of-Ukraine.png
http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Ukraine-language-map.jpg
What is called Ukrainian on those maps appears to be nothing more than a mishmash of Russ dialects that developed over centuries of Lithuanian/Polish/Austro-hungarian rule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Polen_in_den_Grenzen_vor_1660.jpg

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 27 2022 19:02 utc | 190

More exposure for MOA.
Alexander Mercouris name-checks the “virgin birth” post very strongly in his latest video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB2wYd2_d0U
It’s Bernhard versus William Burns!

Posted by: John Cleary | Jan 27 2022 19:04 utc | 191

Posted by: Kartoschka | Jan 27 2022 14:07 utc | 140:
In short: The average German lives in a matrix that has little to do with reality. On the one hand, politics contributes to this, on the other hand, it is caught in its own false narrative.
Thank you for this piece of revelation. I’ve always wondered why Germany, ostensibly a proud, smart, and intellectually independent nation, has been so submissive to the Empire in the last 2, 3 decades. You have exposed the insidious reason: Germans have been systematically brainwashed during this era.
Now I wonder if the same has not been true of the rest of Europe, especially what is known as western Europe.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jan 27 2022 19:09 utc | 192

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 27 2022 18:10 utc | 187
And how much of that will be reported in the West? Especially the shoulder shrugging?

Posted by: John Cleary | Jan 27 2022 19:12 utc | 193

@too scents #183
So in other words, you don’t know squat and reference someone else’s work.
UEFI secure boot is from 2012.
Prior to that, it did not exist.
UEFI secure boot simply locks down an existing Windows system from booting on other OS’s, if activated.
UEFI, even when new, did not actually prevent people from cracking the secure boot; there were bugs and workarounds, and even a leak of Microsoft keys in 2016.
The Microsoft antitrust trial was decided in 2001; this makes for an 11 year gap. Zero credibility to conspiracy theory.
But thank you for playing the FAIL game so well.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 27 2022 19:17 utc | 194

karlof1
This part should wedge open a few cracks in the EU/NATO setup. “It will be an official request sent to all countries whose leaders signed the Istanbul and Astana declarations.”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 27 2022 19:24 utc | 195

John Cleary @193–
Now you know why I do what I do.
I wrote a long response regarding the issue of Donbass Genocide and appended the following to my article about Lavrov’s replies that appears above @187. IMO, that issue hasn’t been forgotten but remains within the overall issue of security as I explain. I will say the TASS item from last November I linked shows that Putin had already decided that Genocide was occurring in Donbass. Here’s my addition:
I reexamined the issue of Genocide in the Donbass since it again surfaced in discussion at MoA; and as noted above, Lavrov clearly stated, “We are prepared to reliably defend the interests and security of our country, as well as the security of our citizens,” to which I appended the fact that most Donbass residents took advantage of becoming Russian citizens when it was made available. The report given to Putin where he agrees that Genocide is happening in Donbass was made in early last December and is documented in an article I published. So far, that reality hasn’t been used publicly in the recent discussions with the West but can still be invoked since Donbass security is certainly compromised given its being subjected to Genocide. Aside from the initial press reports–one in November, which is important because the Genocide Convention was mentioned as being part of the reason for Putin’s edict, and then the December testimony, the link to which was omitted in my article and is paraphrased in the English version. The testimony also notes similar although not as severe abuse of Russian citizens in the Baltic states. So IMO, the question of Russia’s security now becomes the question of Russian Citizen security in the areas of the former Soviet Union and is a major reason why Russia will refrain from invading Ukraine or the Baltics because to do so escalates the threat to those citizens’s security.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 27 2022 19:32 utc | 196

Peter AU1 @195–
Yes, I thought the same as I read that. Blinken’s depravity shows the utter lack of trusting anything uttered by any Outlaw US Empire source–government, media, or private citizen like myself, although I’d argue I’ve more credibility than the entire federal government. IMO, Blinken and crew, plus those that came before going back far too long merit hard labor attached to a ball with a chain for life.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 27 2022 19:42 utc | 197

karlof1
Don’t forget that the Russian state also sent formal complaints to the ECHR.
Surprise! The ECHR didn’t want to know. Too busy supporting the Yanks in their weaponisation of human rights I suppose.
They did the same to me back in 2004. And then, the proof of bad faith, they changed the rules so that I would never again be able to apply (from my isolated position).
If anybody from China is interested I can give them chapter and verse on the perfidy of the European Court of Human Rights.

Posted by: John Cleary | Jan 27 2022 19:54 utc | 198

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 27 2022 12:41 utc | 127
As this is an open thread, thanks Debs for your comment on the “America’s Cup”. I was in NZ when the last legitimate sailing ship won that race down there, and while it was a very rich project, at least it was a sailing ship and the crew were able to be justly proud of the effort and skill they displayed.
Those mechanized floaters are NOT sailing ships! They look like oil derricks with sails, and the crew has to labor heads down pumping the hydralics that keep the whole meccano set up on toothpicks so it can skid along at mega kilometers per hour — sickening!!! But a fitting companion operation to the mansions from hell in the earlier post, as far as I can see. As are ‘cruise ships’ these days. Begone to them all!
The tiny speck of maori in me agrees with your post. I am very sad at what my native land is turning into. And if covid and climate change together help to make a wreck of the touristy and oligarchy infestations down there, that will be a very good thing. Too much of anything is overkill and that is what it has become.
Sorry, end of rant.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 27 2022 19:58 utc | 199

I’ve been trying to pass around the Mearsheimer video too, but so far it doesn’t seem like anybody has watched it. I have noticed an increase in comments on the Hill (a “centrist” website that promotes a lot of war propaganda) disagreeing with and pushing back against the propaganda.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 27 2022 20:20 utc | 200