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January 13, 2022
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Interesting read by Engdahl
There is a great paradox in the increasingly aggressive US and NATO military stance towards Russia, and China, when measured against the clearly suicidal national Green Agenda economic policies of the USA as well as the EU NATO states. An astonishing transformation of the economies of the world’s most advanced industrial economies is underway and gaining momentum. The heart of the transformation is energy, and the absurd demand for “zero carbon” energy by 2050 or before.
To eliminate carbon from the energy industry is not at this time, or perhaps ever, possible. But the push for it will mean tearing apart the world’s most productive economies. Without a viable industrial energy base, NATO countries become a military joke. We cannot speak of “renewable” energy for solar, wind and battery storage. We must speak of Unreliable Energy. It is one of the most colossal scientific delusions in history.
Why Do NATO States Commit Energy Hara Kiri ?
Posted by: Down South | Jan 13 2022 13:33 utc | 1
rubbish.
in the 1940’s/50’s the USA used about one third of the energy it does today and lived very comfortable life styles.
we don’t need vehicles with hundreds of horsepower to move around, we used to manage quite well with one horse.
We squander Energy and kill our planet doing it.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 14:06 utc | 2
If you go to antiwar.com today and read the headlines it appears the U.S. government is about ready to lose its collective mind. The thing that stands out (to me at least) is the U.S. is threatening to go sanctions crazy. They are looking to sanction lots of folks – Iran again (what’s left to sanction), Russia of course, as well as any nation that normalizes relations with Assad in Syria. There’s probably more but those were the ones that jumped out.
Some in the U.S. government (Republican congressional Reps) want the administration to pull entirely out of indirect talks with Iran (great idea). They (both sides) want the U.S. to impose penalties on Russia for invading Ukraine (hasn’t happened). And the Syria thing is just plain evil at work in the bowels of DC.
I can’t help but feel the issues of Ukraine and Taiwan have made people in Washington (and elsewhere) extremely nervous because of how it distracts from what they perceive as the real immediate need/objective – neutering Iran.
How can the threat of Iran be eliminated if the U.S. has to simultaneously confront Russia over Ukraine on its left flank and China/Taiwan on its right?
It simply cannot happen. Even alone, any one of these three, shall I call them hotspots, would be enough of a strategic mistake to take the empire down. Collectively, I smell surrender.
It’s just that it’s extremely humbling and difficult to face this reality, so folks in the U.S. government continue to live their lives is a pseudo dream world, with access to lots of money and no worries (provided they stay true to the course and vote like they are told to).
It’s all for show. Someone said awhile back, the elected representatives in the U.S. are good at one thing: getting themselves elected. Everything else is worrisome.
Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Jan 13 2022 14:16 utc | 3
A few days ago I made a remark about Blair having been caught out at the summer 2000 EU summit. Unfortunately I was acting from memory.
I’ve now found the instrument to which I was referring. It wasn’t in France. It was in Portugal. Anyway, here is that instrument:
. C/ Eusebio Navarro, 12
Rt. Hon Anthony Blair MP 35003 Las Palmas de GranCanaria
“Prime Minister” of the UK Spain
.14 June 2000
Queens Bench 1994-C-2024
J P Cleary v Anglia Television
Dear Mr Blair,
I write further to our long history of correspondences on this fraud, going all the way back to 27 May 1994. The day your good friend Clive Hollick marched into Norwich with his marauding army and ripped the guts out of Anglia Television. And gave us a foretaste of the Blair vision for social policy in Europe.
Between yourself and Queen Elizabeth II you exercise the Royal Prerogative. Two persons in secret coalition. Which is responsible, morally and in law, for the exercise of those powers? For there is safety in uncertainty (or plausible deniability) as I have found.
It is my conviction and belief that, like Malcolm Wall, you are deliberately defective in your appointment; that you exercise your powers because everyone “knows” you are Prime Minister, but that in law you are acting ultra vires; and that you can be disowned by the Sovereign as she uses and discards so many others. All the way back to Crawfie.
Prove you are acting in good faith and with the authority of the Sovereign. Or cede your right to vote in Portugal.
Yours sincerely
John P Cleary BSc MA MBA
cc The President of the Council of Ministers (Portugal)
Posted by: John Cleary | Jan 13 2022 14:16 utc | 4
– Syria joins BRI, joining neighbors Iraq, Lebanon, Turkey. Slowly but inevitably the wheels turn…
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-01-13/Syria-joins-Belt-and-Road-Initiative-infrastructure-development-plan-16NaWUBtJ5K/index.html
– another resource to check out on Russia-US relations – English language analyst/pundit Andrew Korybko, seems came out of diplomat school a few years ago. New to me, not sure how to place his biases yet. Quite prolific of late, connects to a variety of obscure sites in the “alt-media” format, that seem to have newly popped up.
https://mobile.twitter.com/akorybko
– Elijah Magnier on RU/NATO
https://ejmagnier.com/2022/01/12/russias-meeting-with-nato-on-ukraine-the-us-behind-the-curtains/
Also highly encourage following his coverage of post election coalition negotiations over Iraq’s new government
Posted by: ptb | Jan 13 2022 14:18 utc | 5
@Down South | Jan 13 2022 13:33 utc | 1
We cannot speak of “renewable” energy for solar, wind and battery storage. We must speak of Unreliable Energy. It is one of the most colossal scientific delusions in history.
Thank you for speaking truth. The core strategy of the “elite” war on societies and average people in general is to remove access to affordable energy. The “zero carbon” idea is based on a pseudoscientific lie, it is a lie to claim that it can be achieved and it is a lie to claim that it is a good idea.
The same people that push “zero carbon” are the same ones ones behind Covert-1984.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 14:20 utc | 6
Sorry. That went through before I was ready. The formatting is all wrong. But it is comprehensible.
That document was sent to (amongst many others) the Germans.
It was then used by Joska Fischer to prevent Blair from exercising the UK veto in Portugal. I know this because I saw Blair’s stunned expression in the aftermath. I’ll never forget it.
Posted by: John Cleary | Jan 13 2022 14:21 utc | 7
Andrew Korybko, … New to me, not sure how to place his biases yet.
Posted by: ptb | Jan 13 2022 14:18 utc | 5
I’d recommend holding your nose with Karybko and reading at arms length. Seems to be a neolib proxy.
Posted by: BM | Jan 13 2022 15:03 utc | 8
ptb | 5
Korybko.
https://orientalreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Color-Revolution-Template-Briefing-Note-by-Andrew-Korybko.pdf
Here’s his research paper on color revolutions.
Color Revolutions: A Briefing of the Core Theoretical Mechanics
I Model
Color Revolutions are formed through a complex interaction of many factors, however, they can be subdivided into several primary infrastructural categories:
• Ideology
• Finance
• Social
• Training
• Information • Media
These factors interact with one another in a specific way in a five-tiered hierarchy:
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 13 2022 15:15 utc | 9
“Russia, Russia, Russia!”
https://summit.news/2022/01/13/ft-says-anti-vax-sentiment-in-the-west-being-fueled-by-russia-china/
The West’s psyops against their own citizens are good,
everything contrary to the West’s message is…wait for it…
“Russian”.
Posted by: librul | Jan 13 2022 15:18 utc | 10
Language homicide
Look at how ‘replenish’ is slavishly inserted into this story. We get visions of the U.S. unloading crates of new missiles to protect civilians against the next terror attack. Btw I will never dismiss anyone’s suffering, Israeli, Gazan, or anyone else. I am only calling out this absurd narrative.
The U.S. is just writing checks to an Israeli defense contractor, Rafael, to build new missiles without it coming out of their own budget. I bet Iron Dome is already re-stocked.
Pro-Israel groups urge US Senate to approve $1bn funding for Iron Dome
Republican Senator Rand Paul has repeatedly blocked the legislation, arguing that funds must come from aid the government has set aside for Afghanistan
“In September, the House of Representatives approved a stand-alone bill to provide Israel with $1bn for replenishing the anti-missile system.”
Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jan 13 2022 15:20 utc | 11
2016: event-
History and Future of Pandemics
New York Academy of Medicine
In his own words
Here’s video of Peter Daszak, Eco Health Alliance, explaining how his colleagues in China are conducting gain of function research into spike proteins in corona viruses.
https://twitter.com/BeverlyCrusher_/status/1465378532826095619
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 13 2022 15:21 utc | 12
Here is more evidence of the “success” of the German Energiewende:
German household electricity prices paid
Note that German household electricity prices have doubled from 2002 to 2021: 16 euro cents per kWh to over 32 euro cents per kWh.
Note also the present share of “green” electricity is 42% – it actually dropped last year from 46%.
To the German (and other European) readers: how affordable is your electricity bill these days? Is this all just fine and dandy?
Note the household electricity cost doesn’t include the Energiewende spending; Wiki says Energiewende cost 160 billion euro from 2014 to 2019
Germany has around 30 million households. The over 5000 euro spent, per household, on Energiewende has yielded Germany nearly the highest electricity prices in all of Europe. (only Denmark and its wind farms is higher).
In comparison, France household electricity prices have gone nearly as high as 18 euro cents per kWh but are under 13 euro cents per kWh at present.
“Green” energy policies have failed to achieve energy independence for Germany – they’re importing more Russian natural gas than ever.
Where is the success here?
Posted by: c1ue | Jan 13 2022 15:22 utc | 13
Further too Norwegian and Down South….
The IPCC made it’s first report on the dangers of Mankind induced Climate damage in 1990.
CO2 emissions have gone up sixty per cent since then.
There is a movement underway now amongst scientidtd noe
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 15:25 utc | 14
@ Down South | Jan 13 2022 | 1
Bullshit. The human foundations of life and those of all higher life in general are being permanently damaged by the fossilocrats, to which you and Engdahl obviously also belong.
It is already late, much is already broken, or will be broken, without anything being able to be done about it. The melting of the ice sheets and permafrost cannot simply be stopped. But with every further emission of climate-altering gases, it becomes more serious, and the remaining lifespan of humankind becomes shorter.
You are an advocate of nihilism.
Posted by: Pnyx | Jan 13 2022 15:26 utc | 15
Sorry, accidentally posted incomplete comment…
There is a movement underway amongst scientists to cease any further work on IPCC because it’s pointless, they just get told to go off and do more research. Nothing effective is done.
Meanwhile the planets sixths great mass extinction is well underway.
Climate D on the dcale
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 15:31 utc | 16
Damn, it happened again.. too continue….
Climate Damage on the current Scale will result in a catastrophe we can’t correct and will destroy human civilization as we understand it now, and it will happen in the life time of some of us alive today.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 15:37 utc | 17
Rand Paul delivers an ouchie to Fauci
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1481006723586473996
Fauci attacks, obfuscates because he doesn’t have a leg to stand on. Read the emails @CNN @MSNBC won’t report on.
I asked Fauci about an email in which Dr. Collins wrote to him calling doctors from Harvard, Stanford, and Oxford “fringe epidemiologists” calling for a “quick and devastating published take down.”
Fauci refused to stand up to this “take down” attempt.
In fact, screenshots of that email show that Fauci was encouraged by the idea and even conspired to further the attack by debunking those scientists… with a political hit piece in a liberal magazine instead of facts in a medical journal.
And this wasn’t the only time Fauci used his perch as the highest paid government official to silence dissent.
He’s conspired with Peter Daszak and others who’ve even called discussions about the origin of COVID “conspiracy theories.”
Dr. Fauci, I am not distorting anything. I am laying out the facts as they have been reported.
You have used your position, and the power of our government, to promote attacks against dissenters – American citizens. No amount of obfuscating on your part will change that.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 13 2022 15:38 utc | 18
@DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 15:31 utc | 16
There is a movement underway amongst scientists to cease any further work on IPCC because it’s pointless, they just get told to go off and do more research. Nothing effective is done.
The IPCC works in the following way:
First, “Summary for policy makers” is created, a political document written by policy makers.
Second, the IPCC “scientists” are told to provide the “research” in support of the preconceived conclusions written by the policy makers.
This has nothing to do with science, it is a process designed to make energy very expensive for common people and destroy modern society.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 15:42 utc | 19
I will not debate with you on this subject Norwegian.
You are a citizen of a country that has made vast sums selling fossil fuels to everyone else and would like that to continue.
Posted by: DaveGoodtetet | Jan 13 2022 15:57 utc | 20
@1 19 Down South and Norwegian
Since you both believe that it’s both utterly unnecessary and probably impossible for any country to create a zero carbon infrastructure, I wonder what you think of China’s plans to spend the equivalent of 75 trillion dollars to do so?
https://asiatimes.com/2022/01/china-projects-75-trillion-in-carbon-neutrality-investment/
Posted by: Fnord13 | Jan 13 2022 15:59 utc | 21
@DaveGoodtetet | Jan 13 2022 15:57 utc | 20
I will not debate with you on this subject Norwegian.
Well, you are.
You are a citizen of a country that has made vast sums selling fossil fuels to everyone else and would like that to continue.
Please focus on your own objectives, and let me describe mine, especially when you are not debating me.
Please check with the Russians or anyone else whether hydrocarbons are “fossil” or not. If you come to the conclusion they are, please explain how life expired on Saturns moon Titan, where there are vast lakes of methane and a thick atmosphere of Methane. The point is that not all hydrocarbons are created from living matter, it is a lie that it is limited in supply, it is being constantly recreated in the earth. All you need is carbon, hydrogen and high pressure/temperature. All of this is present in abundance in the Earth.
Second you must address the lie that somehow CO2 which is only a trace gas in the atmosphere (400 ppm) is somehow causing the end of the world. This claim has no scientific basis, and the variation of CO2 in the atmosphere is an effect of temperature variations by outgassing from the oceans. So the cause and effect has been turned on its head in order to achieve political goals.
Please continue not debating.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 16:09 utc | 23
@ Peter AU
Sorry to hear about your health difficulties. If you have autoimmune difficulties, you should definitely not touch Covid “vaccines” AT ANY COST. My advice would be to treat covid vaccines in the same way you would treat the risk of a house fire while you are in the house. If the court require your presence, tell them it is their responsibility either have to provide a way of getting there without vaccination, or provide a video link, or postpone the hearing until the vaccination requirement no longer applies. Hold your ground. They are acting in contempt of your legal right to protect your health, which transcends the importance of contempt of court because your life and safety is at stake.
I sympathise with your disgust with western medicine. Western medicine is dead. It is a rotting corpse, dolled up in suit and tie, pumped full of formalin and painted with cosmetics, to hide the fact that it is dead.
Why is it dead? Because the corruption and degeneration of western medicine is so advanced that it can no longer operate as a medical discipline. There have been peer-reviewed research papers – which have been replicated several times in different years and in different countries – which show that when medical workers go on strike the death rate goes down; and that when cancer is not treated by western medicine, life expectancy is significantly increased. Both are reliable, replicable and significant effects. Former editors of several major medical journals including the Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine, among others, have published statements that the industry is so corrupt that they cannot believe any medical research published, because of the ability of Big Pharma to pervert published data and control what is or is not accepted for publication. The overwhelming majority of scientific research today – and especially medical research – is funded by business and conforms to the requirements and desires of business. Western medicine is profoundly corrupt at every single level from pharmaceuticals to university research to medical school policy to government research grant funding to scientific journal publishing to hospital management to general practice and every other level without exception. It is founded on corruption, using methods of corruption, worshiping corruption, for the benefit of corruption.
It is dead because it cannot ever come back to life. The whole Covid-19 saga is the perfect illustration of the fact that western medicine is dead. We need a new medicine, a medicine based on science and morality, not pseudoscience propped up by corruption.
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In any case, western approaches to medicine are unproductive with respect to autoimmune problems, for which you will find much better solutions in phytomedicine, Ayurveda, Chinese Traditional Medicine, etc. I would encourage you to rely on yourself and on your own research. Seek out good practicioners in a variety of different non-western medical disciplines – regardless of which discipline, the quality of the practicioner is of prime importance and varies all the way from top to bottom.
Take full responsibility for your own healing – never rely on any doctor or practicioner (irrespective of the discipline) to perform the cure for you – by that very act you will immeasurably enhance the power of your own immune system. (Note: western medicine says the exact opposite – most doctors, except the best, require you to give up that responsibility to the doctor and his infinite wisdom; animal research has proved that giving up self responsibility for your healing necessarily degrades or even switches off the immune system!)
There are many many natural plants that can help deal with autoimmune problems. Without knowing anything specific about your health problems (which are your privacy), I’ll give just one example that might conceivably be relevant for you: Ocimum sanctum, known under various names such as holy basil, tulsi etc. There are many beneficial plants. Do your own research. And good luck.
Once again – STAND YOUR GROUND, don’t let them act in contempt of your health and safety.
By the way for information on risks of covid vaccines on immune related problems you could look at VAERS Analysis which is an excellent independent site. If you look at the tab on validating that website, they also give copious tips on how to search the VAERS website itself. Bear in ming that VAERS is only the tip of the iceberg and only shows around 1/40th to 1/100th of all vaccine adverse events. Covid vaccines are an exceptional risk for autoimmune problems.
Posted by: BM | Jan 13 2022 16:16 utc | 24
@Fnord13 #21
China has a severe energy problem: their increasingly wealthy population is using more energy every single year.
China has very little fossil fuel resources of its own – some coal but not a whole lot of anything else.
Lastly, China is the largest supplier of solar PV panels these days and a major resource supplier for resources needed for wind turbines as well as production of wind turbines themselves.
So in this context: Xi JinPing has announced national goals for “carbon neutral” energy: peak emissions by 2030 and “neutral” 2050 or whatever – nobody expects this to happen even on paper. China needs energy of all forms – they are now the largest importer of oil in the world, for example.
China is building coal plants: 41 GW of coal generated electricity capacity in 2020 and 43 GW additional new capacity in the near future
China is building nuclear plants: China planning 150 new nuclear power plants
To put this in perspective: China has around 50 nuclear plants now
Green energy wannabes see Xi’s pledges plus large solar and wind installs as evidence of their own desires.
Coal plants and oil imports show that this is a fantasy – China’s need is for more energy and they’ll do everything to achieve that.
If China meets its public emissions goals, it will be because they will have built more nuclear power plants than anyone; in particular, they will have increased the total number of nuclear power plants in the entire world by 1/3 – there are about 440 nuclear power plants operating worldwide today.
Posted by: c1ue | Jan 13 2022 16:17 utc | 25
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 14:06 utc | 2
You’re possibly not young enough to remember outhouses and newspaper for wiping. Not to mention trudging outdoors to use the bathroom. Or getting up and making a fire in your cooking stove. Or bringing your water indoors from the well. Or chasing bears out of the potato field with Roman Candles or banging pots and pans together. Or having tamped dirt floors. Or shaking the sheets out before bed so the scorpions fall out. No television or internet. No Starbucks. No doctors. No going to the hospital except to die. Typhoid in the bath water. People riding through the night wearing white sheets. Government assassinations of public figures. Local government assassinations of anyone who opened their mouths. Children working before and after school. Kerosene lamps for light. Oh yeah, we were very comfortable. Not sharing hairdressers with Bozo. Good times. LOL>
Posted by: Bo Robinson | Jan 13 2022 16:21 utc | 26
About origin of petro referenced above @ Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 16:09 utc | 23 (Indeed, fairly simple chemistry, and primordial, not fossil)
see> “Synthesis of Complex Hydrocarbon Systems
at Temperatures and Pressures Corresponding
to the Earth’s Upper Mantle Conditions
V. G. Kutcherov, A. Yu. Kolesnikov, T. I. Dyuzheva, L. F. Kulikova,
N. N. Nikolaev, O. A. Sazanova, and V. V. Braghkin
Posted by: Walter | Jan 13 2022 16:22 utc | 27
I want to stress this last point: The decommissioning of nuclear reactors in the US and Europe, and Japan (the last is ?), means net Western democracy nuclear installs is flat to down for the foreseeable future.
It means that: if China succeeds in carrying out its construction of 150 new nuclear plants – and there’s no evidence that this part is all yakety – China will have more than 1/3 of all of the nuclear power plants on Earth.
It is pretty safe to say that China is a “nuclear power” at that point.
Is nuclear power “green”? Depends on who you talk to – although the majority of “green” parties in the US and Europe say no.
Posted by: c1ue | Jan 13 2022 16:23 utc | 28
Hmm…
Well, if there ever was life on Titan, the “Vast Lakes” and “Thick atmosphere” took care of that.
The Abiotic theory of hydrocarbon fuel formation on Earth is discredited because no one, despite trillions spent searching out any source of hydrocarbons, anywhere has every seen it.
What we do know is that planetary temperature and CO2 atmospheric levels have always moved in lock step throughout Geological history.
What you dismiss as “only a trace gas” is more then enough to have kicked off the Mass Extinction Event currently underway. Just as it did in Earths Geological past.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 16:30 utc | 29
@7 : Lovely, thanks.
@6 : Re “unreliable” … https://www.reddit.com/r/Shortages/
Posted by: too scents | Jan 13 2022 16:33 utc | 31
And as for the CO2 outgassing from the Oceans, that’s a result of Ocean heating. Warmer water can’t hold onto as much CO2.
It’s a vicious, positive feedback loop. Probably unstoppable now.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 16:34 utc | 32
Posted by: Pnyx | Jan 13 2022 15:26 utc | 15
@ Down South | Jan 13 2022 | 1
“You are an advocate of nihilism.”
You act like it’s his fault. This must be your pet peeve, being beyond the tipping point and nothing we can do about it and all. Try mindfulness and loving kindness. You family, in these last days and end times, will love you for it. Even if the rest of us are tittering in the garden. Nihilism? God IS dead.
Posted by: Benedict Arnold Palm | Jan 13 2022 16:34 utc | 33
human civilization as we understand it now, and it will happen in the lifetime of some of us alive today.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 15:37 utc | 17
“human civ” lol. That would have been a good idea – Gandhiji
“Don’t cry like a woman for that which you wouldn’t defend as a man” – Last Sigh Of The Moor
Posted by: Ru-Paul Simon LeGree | Jan 13 2022 16:37 utc | 34
The Abiotic theory of hydrocarbon fuel formation on Earth is discredited because no one, despite trillions spent searching out any source of hydrocarbons, anywhere has every seen it.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 16:30 utc | 29
Ha ha ha, what a clown! Do some research Dave, instead of regurgitating other people’s arguments.
Posted by: BM | Jan 13 2022 16:40 utc | 35
BM…
Can you point to any Coalition, Gas, or Oil field that is NOT linked to Sedimentary Basins?
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 16:44 utc | 36
Posted by: DaveGoodtitties | Jan 13 2022 15:57 utc | 20
I wonder who sustainably 100% organically urinated in your cheerios today. It wasn’t us. Frankly, I come to hear the opinions and thoughts of the people you’re harassing. I think there are groups for angry incel climate crisis virtue signallers who bludgeon others on Discord.
Posted by: Bo Robinson | Jan 13 2022 16:44 utc | 37
Hmmm….
this is an open thread Bo, Down South chose to start the thread on the topic of Fossil Fuels.
Back in the Seventies the big fear, based on Milkhanovic orbital cycles,was a return of the Ice Age.
That Science wasn’t wrong, Human released Greenhouse gases over rode it.
The best brains, and the most powerful computers we have both say the burning of fossil fuels will induce Climate Change on a scale the human race can’t cope with.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 16:56 utc | 38
@DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 16:30 utc | 29
Well, if there ever was life on Titan, the “Vast Lakes” and “Thick atmosphere” took care of that.
Do you know there are hydrocarbons on Titan? Or “fossil fuel” in your terminology?
If not: A sea full of liquid methane is found on Titan
Scientists have found a sea full of liquid methane on Saturn’s moon, Titan, thanks to data collected from the Cassini Radar.
Titan is one of the few explored moons in the solar system that has similarities to Earth since it possesses a dense atmosphere and liquid reservoirs just like planet Earth. That’s why scientists have become so interested in the Saturn’s moon.
Where did those hydrocarbons come from? If you believe all hydrocarbons are created from dead animals or plants, what kind of life existed on Titan and why did it die (we know there is no life there today)?
How did the thick atmosphere “take care” of the life if the methane was created from the life it supposedly killed? Please describe the life that once existed on Titan according to your claim. By the way, if 1 bar killed the life on Titan, how come we are discussing this under the same 1 bar pressure?
The Abiotic theory of hydrocarbon fuel formation on Earth is discredited because no one, despite trillions spent searching out any source of hydrocarbons, anywhere has every seen it.
There’s none so blind as those who will not see. Btw, see Walter | Jan 13 2022 16:22 utc | 27
What we do know is that planetary temperature and CO2 atmospheric levels have always moved in lock step throughout Geological history.
Yes, first temperature changes, followed by CO2 levels. It is a result from outgassing of CO2 from the oceans.
Take half a litre of beer (or a pint if you are so inclined) on a hot summer day and watch it go flat, because warm beer cannot dissolve the same amount of CO2 as cold beer.
What you dismiss as “only a trace gas” is more then enough to have kicked off the Mass Extinction Event currently underway. Just as it did in Earths Geological past.
400 ppm is a trace gas, it is four hundred parts per million. Now compare that with the atmosphere of Mars which has 96% CO2 in the atmosphere, but where the diurnal temperature variation is larger than the seasonal temperature variation. If CO2 acted the way you think it would not be possibe. The claim that CO2 is a “greenhouse gas” is completely bogus, except in actual greenhouses made of glass where CO2 is pumped in to increase photosynthesis and make groceries grow faster. The Earths natural atmosphere is starved of CO2 and limits photosynthesis.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 16:57 utc | 39
@DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 16:44 utc | 36
Can you point to any Coalition, Gas, or Oil field that is NOT linked to Sedimentary Basins?
Bach Ho field, Vietnam.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 17:00 utc | 40
@ Bo Robinson | Jan 13 2022 16:21 utc | 26…i’m not that old, but i remember a lot of that, lol!
Posted by: james | Jan 13 2022 17:06 utc | 41
the davegood open thread today, lol…. why am i skipping over daveys posts?
Posted by: james | Jan 13 2022 17:07 utc | 42
@DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 16:56 utc | 38
Back in the Seventies the big fear, based on Milkhanovic orbital cycles,was a return of the Ice Age.
That Science wasn’t wrong,
The spelling is Milankovitch cycles, it is an effect of gravity in the Solar System where the other planets cause the shape of Earths orbit and the angle of the Earths axis with respect to the orbital plane to change cyclically over time. It is indeed a cause of ice ages. The last ice age ended 11700 years ago after it began 2.5 million years ago. We are living in a short interglacial and the future is more ice age.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 17:11 utc | 43
I think someone needs to make the point that recent events in Kazahkstan have strengthened Russia’s geopolitical position. They responded quickly and dramatically – unlike NATO vassals. Russia showed its reliability as an ally. It showed that the CSTO has teeth.
Instead of weakening Russia, events boomeranged on the CIA/MI6. Unless insanity prevails within the Deep State ( not impossible), they may be waking up to their own impotence. The US can’t attack any one of the 3 nations – Russia, China and Iran- without possibly triggering a humiliating outcome in either of the remaining two.
Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 13 2022 17:38 utc | 44
@ Bo Robinson | Jan 13 2022 16:21 utc | 26…i’m not that old, but i remember a lot of that, lol!
Posted by: james | Jan 13 2022 17:06 utc | 41
the davegood open thread today, lol…. why am i skipping over daveys posts?
Posted by: james | Jan 13 2022 17:07 utc | 42
As a boy I used to ride a blind horse a couple of miles to the mailbox. He would never go any further, but he liked that ride. You’re right James. We don’t have to be that old. There are still houses in the south side of Chicago with no indoor toilets. At least the outhouse is indoors, but it all goes under the house. If you’ve watched Airplane, you know that the end of any of those posts is “Then the Arabs came and bought Mercedes Benzs’. I’m giving Good Tatas posts a miss too.
Posted by: Bo Robinson | Jan 13 2022 17:40 utc | 45
@25 clue
fwiw, by 2030 China us projected to have more wind/solar generation than EU and US combined at that point, and they’ll have manufactured most of the world’s solar and a good chunk of wind too.
Posted by: ptb | Jan 13 2022 17:40 utc | 46
@ BM 24
health advice – “Take full responsibility for your own healing”
yes, and for me, three rules to help my body function properly and fight disease:
1. be happy or at least content — mind-body connection (good ref: Norman Cousins)
2. mind what you eat, for me it’s balanced nutrition vegetarian
3. active exercise – aerobic conditioning gets needed oxygen to further body cells, also ties in with #1
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 13 2022 17:42 utc | 47
Oh dear, and just when most needed against the Russians 🙂
Britain’s Prince Andrew loses military titles
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 17:43 utc | 48
Of course I knew it Norwegian,
Planetary science and Astrophysics are amongst my interests. But if you want to start claiming what happens on other planets happens here, take a look at Venus and it’s CO2 rich atmosphere.
the source of fossil fuels on this plant is a distraction to steer the topic away from something you sre uncomfortable with anyway.
the source of Hydrocarbons is not the topic, what happens when you burn them is.
As for your arguement 400 ppm is just a ” “trace”and can be safely ignored, 100 milligrams of arsenic would be far less then 400 ppm in the human body but will certainly kill you.
And thank you for correcting my spelling of Milankovitch cycles. I am well aware of what they are, what causes them and thier effects on our planet.
As for the impact of Mars Atmosphere, it barely has one, as you know.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 17:46 utc | 49
Norwegian,
Bach Ho Oil is sourced from the Sedimentary Lacustrine Shales in which it is embedded. It’s not Abiotic.
To confirm that, google it.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 17:52 utc | 50
US embassy’s anti rocket system C-RAM in Baghdad activated a few seconds ago
video ==> https://twitter.com/nafisehkBBC/status/1481668167957110785
Posted by: too scents | Jan 13 2022 17:54 utc | 51
@DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 17:46 utc | 49
Planetary science and Astrophysics are amongst my interests. But if you want to start claiming what happens on other planets happens here, take a look at Venus and it’s CO2 rich atmosphere.
The reason for the high temperature on Venus (460 °C) is because of the high atmospheric pressure (9.3 MPa)
The reason for the low temperature on Mars (−63 °C) is because of the low atmospheric pressure (0.0005 MPa)
Both have an atmosphere of ~96% CO2
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 18:01 utc | 52
Fire and Ice
Robert Frost – 1874-1963
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To know that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
Posted by: juliania | Jan 13 2022 18:02 utc | 53
@too scents | Jan 13 2022 17:54 utc | 51
maybe they are just celebrating the Russian New Year?
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 18:04 utc | 54
About petro. Synthesis is primarily abiotic, and simple. Please read the above cited paper. Once the CHx is synthesized it may enter atmosphere or accumulate in various geo formations and reside there long enough to become “fossilized”…as we see in some rare vertical (not lateral)”coal” deposits. Then there is real coal, which is probably mostly actually biological in origin, although coal and CHx obviously coexist in formations. We don’t want to conflate coal and petro. Petro primary source is essentially slow outgassing through the mantle with the chemical synthesis outlined in the cited paper. Process is slow. Drilling and accelerating the outgassing may or may not exceed the synthesis rate.
In the other bit, the CO2… I saved a paper on the climate change – which demonstrates that the driver is solar variability. I’ll see if I can find it. Water vapor is primary greenhouse gas. BTW burning the CHx forms a lot of water vapor and its delta T is poor compared to burning carbon alone – so the gas powered power stations use more fuel that a coal station – assuming good engineering. Then of course the gas comes from a pipe…while coal can be stockpiled…redundancy and reliability are poor when the turbines rely on a long pipe…
Blaming (and taxing) the people and or processes that did not do it is key to confidence racket, and “politics”. Regards & signing off. W
Posted by: Walter | Jan 13 2022 18:19 utc | 55
well Norwegian,
We are not going to agree..You say dumping 40+ Billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year is trivial and cannot possibly be responsible for any heating of the planet currently observed.
I disagree. But It was an honour to debate with you.
There will be topics we do agree on.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 18:23 utc | 56
Protesters in Bulgaria storm Parliament
Rather nervous scenes from inside the Parliament at the end.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 18:31 utc | 57
@DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 18:23 utc | 56
We are not going to agree..
I didn’t state any opinions, only facts.
BLOCKQUOTE>There will be topics we do agree on.
Good, lets focus on those.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 18:38 utc | 58
Hmmm…
Mars being cold and Venus hot is because of thier Atmospheric Pressure? that’s not a fact, if it was Mercury would be frozen and Jupiter as hot as the sun.
Bac Ho oil field is not biotic, it’s just a bog standard sedimentary oilfield whose oil has move sideways into a fractured granite outcrop.
That Ocean’s release CO2 because something heated them up, ( but whatever that something was, it was definitely not CO2 atmospheric build up, dear me no).
That is an opinion.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 18:50 utc | 59
@DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 18:50 utc | 59
That Ocean’s release CO2 because something heated them up, ( but whatever that something was, it was definitely not CO2 atmospheric build up, dear me no).
Which star is closest to Earth?
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 18:52 utc | 60
Do you mean the Sun?
The one that had not grown noticeably brighter, hotter, bigger or closer since observations began?
That star?
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 18:58 utc | 61
aveGood | Jan 13 2022 18:50 utc | 59
Mars being cold and Venus hot is because of thier Atmospheric Pressure? that’s not a fact, if it was Mercury would be frozen and Jupiter as hot as the sun.
You are unaware of the ice on Mercury?
Ice on Mercury
“The local day on the surface of Mercury is 176 earth-days, so the surface is slowly rotating under a relentless assault from the Sun. Nonetheless, Earth-based radar imaging of Mercury has revealed areas of high radar reflectivity near the north and south poles, which could be indicative of the presence of ice in these regions (1-3). There appear to be dozens of these areas with generally circular shapes. Presumably, the ice is located within permanently shadowed craters near the poles, where it may be cold enough for ice to exist over long periods of time.”
Neither the Sun nor Jupiter have solid surfaces. The sun is a fusion bomb and Jupiter is a gas blob.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 19:06 utc | 63
I am aware of it Norwegian,
Were I you I’d stop now. mercury is a tidally locked planet and it’s temperature at any point on it is simple physics since it doesn’t have anything worth calling an atmosphere.
You presented an arguement that the difference in temperature between Mars and Venus was due to atmospheric pressure. It’s not.
Your arguements are increasingly thin
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 19:15 utc | 64
@DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 18:58 utc | 61
The one that had not grown noticeably brighter, hotter, bigger or closer since observations began?
That star?
Bingo, you got the star right. But you are arguing against a strawman, because nobody said anything about solar variability in this thread (yes it is a variable star, now I said it).
But lets presume the Sun is constant (it isn’t), what astronomical effect could cause the oceans to receive variable solar energy anyway? Hint: the answer is in this thread.
By the way, professional solar observations are only a couple of hundred years old, the first amateur was Galileo who drew sunspots in 1600. Since then the Sun was somewhat less active from ~1650 to ~1715, Maunder Minimum causing cold climate on Earth. We are possibly entering a similar phase now (Eddy Minimum), we are in solar cycle 25 which behaves different from the high activity cycles in the late 20th century https://wwwbis.sidc.be/silso/spotless
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 19:25 utc | 65
I highly suggest barflies click this link to read the Hudson-Norton interview dealing with the revelations published by Pam Martens. IMO, this is just as important as the failed talks. Parts of Marten’s story were known but now the dots are connected, and a financial crime of huge proportions has occurred such that Russia probably won’t need to attack the Outlaw Anglo Empire as it seems about to drown itself in Red Ink.
@DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 19:15 utc | 64
mercury is a tidally locked planet and it’s temperature at any point on it is simple physics since it doesn’t have anything worth calling an atmosphere.
Mercury isn’t tidally locked, it is in a 3:2 orbital resonance. It rotates 3 times around its own axis every 2 times in orbits the sun showing different sides towards the Sun at different times. This is different from e.g. the Moon which is tidally locked, showing the same face towards earth at all times (ignoring the effect of libration).
You said “Mercury would be frozen” and I showed you it has ice on its surface, and it has.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 19:36 utc | 67
Stop being a tease, Norwegian,
if someone in this thread says the Oceans have started to soak up more solar radiation jn the last two hundred years, and it’s not global warming melting sea ice raising it’s albedo, point to it.
No scientific institution on the planet knows anything about it so a discovery that big is Nobel prize winning event.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 19:43 utc | 68
Oops.
Sorry, you are right about Mercury, it is tidally locked, but the 3 to 2 resonance does expose all surfaces. I’d forgotten about that, Well spotted.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 19:57 utc | 70
Thanks, karlof1 @ 66 – it’s very readable so far, even for a non-economist — big thanks to Pam Marten also.
Posted by: juliania | Jan 13 2022 19:59 utc | 71
Here’s the Wall Street on Parade website main page, where the first item in this series is this article, “The Fed Is About to Reveal Which Wall Street Banks Needed $4.5 Trillion in Repo Loans in Q4 2019,” which you’ll find as you scroll down the main page’s left side. The rest all come afterwards as you scroll toward the top. Here’re the opening paragraphs to that first article:
“The conventional wisdom is that the Fed’s recent emergency lending facilities to Wall Street were caused by the COVID-19 crisis. The above chart, which uses the New York Fed’s own Excel spreadsheet repo loan data, shows the conventional wisdom is dangerously wrong.
“In the last quarter of 2019 – before there was any news of COVID-19 in the U.S., and months before the World Health Organization declared COVID-19 a pandemic – the Fed pumped $4.5 trillion in cumulative repo loans to unnamed trading houses on Wall Street – its so-called ‘primary dealers.’
“The collateral that the Fed accepted for the cumulative $4.5 trillion in loans consisted of $3.497 trillion in U.S. Treasury securities; $988.3 billion in agency Mortgage-Backed Securities (MBS); and $15.839 billion in agency debt.
“The Fed’s emergency repo loan operations began on September 17, 2019. From September 17, 2019 through the last acknowledged operation on July 2, 2020, the Fed’s repo loans cumulatively totaled $11.23 trillion, made up of the following pledged collateral: $7.137 trillion in U.S. Treasury securities; $4 trillion in agency Mortgage-Backed Securities (MBS) and $91.525 billion in agency debt.”
There’s a very useful chart above the print. It’s no wonder then that Trump instituted his Covid-19 Do Nothing Policy because he needed a major crisis to erupt that would act as cover for the already huge financial crisis that began in the last quarter of 2019. Hundreds of thousands died to aide that cover-up.
Oh dear, and just when most needed against the Russians 🙂
Britain’s Prince Andrew loses military titles
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 17:43 utc | 48
Oh dear! It also says
“The Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending this case as a private citizen.”
Trouble is that when he “did” her he was a royal. Apparently the most favoured royal.
Which reminds me. Given what we now know about Andrew and his pal Epstein in Manhatten circa 2000, and his elder brother Charles and his pal Savile in Glencoe around the same time. Do you think they ever got together and had some fun with underage corpses?
Posted by: John Cleary | Jan 13 2022 20:05 utc | 73
Grand Theft Country, is just for starters:
“With criminals moving online, fraud is now Israel’s top illicit cash crop, ministry”
By Simona Weinglass,
It’s what they do best:
“Fraud, especially the type perpetrated online, has become the most significant source of dirty money for Israeli criminals, according to a new report from the Justice Ministry’s anti-money laundering unit.In its 2021 National Risk Assessment, released in late November, Israeli law enforcement agencies concluded that internet fraud poses the country’s biggest money-laundering risk, in terms of the prevalence of the crime and amount of money generated measured against law enforcement’s capability of thwarting it…”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-criminals-moving-online-fraud-now-israels-top-illicit-cash-crop/
But wait, there’s more:
“ISRAEL’S PRIMARY EXTERNAL INTELLIGENCE agency, the Mossad, was likely behind a series of mysterious bombings in 1981, which targeted German and Swiss engineering firms believed to be aiding the Pakistani nuclear program, according to new exposé by a leading Swiss newspaper. Several bomb attacks targeted a number of engineering firms in Switzerland and what was then West Germany in 1981. Alongside these attacks, there were threatening telephone calls that targeted West German and Swiss engineers.A previously unknown militant group calling itself the Organization for the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons in South Asia took responsibility for these actions. Its members mailed a number of political manifestos to the German and Swiss press, and repeatedly issue proclamations via telephone in broken German or English, according to contemporary accounts. Interestingly, the Organization for the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons in South Asia has never been heard of since….”
https://intelnews.org/2022/01/05/01-3132/
Posted by: Paul | Jan 13 2022 20:06 utc | 74
…
Rt. Hon Anthony Blair MP 35003 Las Palmas de GranCanaria
“Prime Minister” of the UK Spain
.14 June 2000
Queens Bench 1994-C-2024
J P Cleary v Anglia Television
Dear Mr Blair,
I write further to our long history of correspondences on this fraud, going all the way back to 27 May 1994. The day your good friend Clive Hollick marched into Norwich with his marauding army and ripped the guts out of Anglia Television. And gave us a foretaste of the Blair vision for social policy in Europe.
Between yourself and Queen Elizabeth II you exercise the Royal Prerogative. Two persons in secret coalition. Which is responsible, morally and in law, for the exercise of those powers? For there is safety in uncertainty (or plausible deniability) as I have found.
It is my conviction and belief that, like Malcolm Wall, you are deliberately defective in your appointment; that you exercise your powers because everyone “knows” you are Prime Minister, but that in law you are acting ultra vires; and that you can be disowned by the Sovereign as she uses and discards so many others. All the way back to Crawfie.
Prove you are acting in good faith and with the authority of the Sovereign. Or cede your right to vote in Portugal.
Yours sincerely
John P Cleary BSc MA MBA
cc The President of the Council of Ministers (Portugal)
Posted by: John Cleary | Jan 13 2022 14:16 utc | 4
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Fascinating. What reply(s) did you receive?
Posted by: tucenz | Jan 13 2022 20:18 utc | 75
Norwegian,
My position is this,
There is an old Joke people tell about taking a watch and hitting it with a hammer.
There is an infinitesimally small chance you might improve things and that the watch might run better.
But no one is going to give thier watch to someone with a hammer.
We are hitting this planet with a forty plus billion ton,CO2 hammer, every year now.
Stuff is breaking, droughts, storms,floods that used to be 100 year events are coming round every few years now. It’s imperative we stop.
I tried to withdraw gracefully earlier in the thread. We are boring people.
I will not post again on this topic in this thread.
Good fortune to you.
Posted by: DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 20:52 utc | 76
@DaveGood | Jan 13 2022 20:52 utc | 76
Stuff is breaking, droughts, storms,floods that used to be 100 year events are coming round every few years now. It’s imperative we stop.
That is a confession of faith, it disagrees with observations. Feynman – The Key to Science
I will not post again on this topic in this thread.
You began by saying you didn’t want to debate me, so this is no different.
All the best.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 13 2022 21:16 utc | 77
“ The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday blocked President Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate for large businesses but said a similar one may continue while challenges to the rules move through lower courts.”
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20220113/scotus-vaccine-mandate
First good. Second not so but one can only hope, no?
Posted by: DG | Jan 13 2022 21:43 utc | 78
Fascinating. What reply(s) did you receive?
Posted by: tucenz | Jan 13 2022 20:18 utc | 75
None at all, tucenz.
Sir Anthony of Kazakhstan knows of me just as well as Prince Andrew knows of Virginia Giufre.
Not at all.
Posted by: John Cleary | Jan 13 2022 21:53 utc | 79
Is it just me or has RT taken a turn for the worse? Recently there was a change to the site layout, and since then it seems to be littered with deliberately vague headlines. Sometimes one may hover over the link and find the missing information hinted at in the URL, other times not. Has RT set out to become ‘clickbait’?
Posted by: rockstar | Jan 13 2022 21:59 utc | 80
@ c1ue | Jan 13 2022 15:22 utc | 13
I lived 30 years in France [5 last years in a 100 square meter house, built in 2012]
and since 3 years in Germany [140 square meter, built in 1980]
Electricity is inexpensive in France, most of houses are heated with nuclear electricity but my bill was 2000€/years in 2017
In Germany, better housing, better insulation [expensive energy is a good intensive] and using very affordable Russian gas [ 6 cts /kWh]
My 2021 energy bill was 2000€. For a really bigger house.
French “cheap nuclear electricity” is a trap. EDF need 140 billion for the old nuclear plant to be fixed and probably 200 more to built the next 10.
FLAMANVILLE EPR don’t work after 12 billions and 15 years.
Posted by: Bastille | Jan 13 2022 22:23 utc | 81
Interesting bio chip breakthrough:
“…Archer is progressing its ‘lab-on-a-chip’ technology (biochip) that would allow droplets of biological specimens to be analyzed and processed using graphene-based sensors.
The biochip requires graphene materials in electronic circuits (i.e. the micro- and nano-fabrication of graphene-based transistors), that would form miniaturized devices that act as ultrasensitive sensors for detecting and analyzing biochemical targets, for example, to identify viruses or bacteria…
https://www.proactiveinvestors.com.au/companies/news/971050/archer-materials-shares-surge-after-integrating-single-atom-thick-graphene-on-a-silicon-wafer-971050.html
Posted by: Paul | Jan 13 2022 22:38 utc | 82
rockstar | Jan 13 2022 21:59 utc | 80
RT was always sort of clickbait
Posted by: DG | Jan 13 2022 22:47 utc | 83
About the matter of solar input and so forth. This is not the paper I wanted, but it’s relevant. RAA 2021 Vol. 21 No. 6, 131(68pp) doi: 10.1088/1674-4527/21/6/131
2021 National Astronomical Observatories, CAS and IOP Publishing Ltd.
How much has the Sun influenced Northern Hemisphere temperature trends?An ongoing debate
see pdf @>
https://www.raa-journal.org/docs/papers_accepted/2020-0449.pdf
My own view is that there are several drivers of climate, like duh! Some are feedbacks, some are not. And it’s best to take things rationally, be frugal, govern for the common good…don’t waste stuff, make sure everybody has what they need, peace and moderate prosperity…and then the climate will take care of itself. Just my opinion.
Back to stacking wood…
Posted by: Walter | Jan 13 2022 22:52 utc | 84
Turn on to stop the Virus:
“Researchers from Oregon State University’s Global Hemp Innovation Center have found hemp compounds can prevent the virus that causes COVID-19 from entering human cells.
Essentially a pair of cannabinoid acids bind to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein – the same drug target used in COVID-19 vaccines and antibody therapy – blocking a critical step in the process the virus uses to infect people…”
https://stockhead.com.au/health/weed-week-cannabis-compounds-could-prevent-covid-and-quebecs-no-jab-no-weed-rule-quadruples-vaccinations/
Posted by: Paul | Jan 13 2022 23:11 utc | 85
@ Bo Robinson | Jan 13 2022 17:40 utc | 45… thanks bo… i like the story of your riding the blind horse to the mailbox… nice story! my experiences were self imposed… i lived on the side of the ocean for about 14 years – outhouse, running water – i had to put in myself from the creek immediately below.. i did a gravity feed from about 1200 feet back.. etc. etc.. we all come from different experiences… the book i just finished reading – the dawn of everything – quite a fascinating read) basically questions our use of the word civilization, among other words and preconceived ideas about human history.. it is quite a good book if you are into this sort of thing.. cheers james
Posted by: james | Jan 13 2022 23:26 utc | 86
Novak Djokovic meets Australian bureaucracy, transcript of airport interview conducted at 4AM :
https://fedcourt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/95053/Parties-jointly-agreed-Transcript-of-Interviews-conducted-by-the-ABF.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0dWrPNDM1m3Zyu6H-xzhYYs6_xVM70QePgoYlLa3Stq6NGFR78awfqVOo
Obviously Novak Djokovic is owed an apology.
Meanwhile,The Australian Open has been suspended while the bible banging Minister for Immigration is considering deporting Novak anyway, despite the court ruling. Such arrogance is typical from this mob of sheep.
Posted by: Paul | Jan 14 2022 0:22 utc | 88
Is it just me or has RT taken a turn for the worse? Recently there was a change to the site layout, and since then it seems to be littered with deliberately vague headlines. Sometimes one may hover over the link and find the missing information hinted at in the URL, other times not. Has RT set out to become ‘clickbait’?
Posted by: rockstar | Jan 13 2022 21:59 utc | 80
I would not want to characterized it, but I know what you are talking about, a sudden fondness for teasing headlines. If the idea was to pique peoples interest, its not working.
Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 14 2022 0:33 utc | 89
Paul | Jan 13 2022 23:11 utc | 84
I guess the good folk in Quebec have no idea how to procure/grow marijuana.
We here in Ontario have zero problem going around the government.
A 2×4 tent in my bedroom is sufficient for 2 high yeild plants
Hard to believe resistors would cave over weed.
alcohol on the other hand ….
Posted by: ld | Jan 14 2022 0:41 utc | 90
A good example of the use of public funds. Our Fed both in 2008 and now with the repo crisis is obviously supporting Wall Street and the 1%. It has the power to act otherwise.
‘It was only after such transition costs had been increasingly expressed as large scale social confrontations, threatening political stability , that the central government would, as the principal fund provider, request financial institutions to execute a series of interventional relief policies by the will of the state.’ (mid 2000’s)
Ten Crises ‘The Political Economy of China’s Development (1949-2020)
Posted by: financial matters | Jan 14 2022 0:59 utc | 91
Does anyone have any ideas where Nursultan Nazarbayev is? What hasn’t he made any statements?
Humm.
I detest Victoria Nuland, but I do agree with her sentiment – F the EU
Vicky Nudelman
5Nizza – Soldat
Posted by: lex talionis | Jan 14 2022 1:03 utc | 92
lex talionis @91–
Last info had him in Kazakhstan. Beware the many rumors. IMO, Putin probably advised he keep a low profile.
Thanks karlof1, you always have a good take on things. I think he and Tokayev are just sorting things out about what just went down. And NN is 81 years old, for god’s sake. He built the country and as its best interest at heart, in my opinion.
Thank you for the R. Braithwaite citation. You rule! ( As well as everyone else here. )
Posted by: lex talionis | Jan 14 2022 2:14 utc | 94
I am on West coast of US and cannot connect to Reuters and 5-6 other web sites for over 1/2 hour
Is this cyber warfare?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 14 2022 2:50 utc | 95
Kazakhstan & Latin America
Ben Norton is on fire again with an hour long loaded rant on Kazakhstan with links and quotes from Hunter Biden to Brazil. If you have the time you will pick up some new info although much is already known to barflies. Here are a few highlights:
-provides detailed critique of neolib/neocon color revolution playbook, specifically looks into Carnegie Foundation and how NGOs operate to prepare, trigger and support “regime change”;
-cites Moon of Alabama for impressive reporting and analysis on Kazakhstan;
-mentions ties between Nazerbaev and the Biden family;
-notes Xi’s change and increasingly overt support for Kazakhstan’s security;
-credits a Brazil Wire article that parallels Brazil’s U.S. triggered coup with Kazakhstan’s. This one is new information for many. The Brazil story starts around 42 min. Norton provides the link but I’ll give it too. Brazilwire is the best website on Brazil by far. Norton’s link first…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDVd0SZUigA
the Brazilwire link here
https://www.brasilwire.com/brazil-kazakhstan-and-the-grand-chess-board/
Posted by: migueljose | Jan 14 2022 3:08 utc | 96
Posted by: ld @ 89
Thanks for that information. Perhaps it is to cold in Quebec?
I remember way back in time, a large format book called “The Last Whole Earth Catalogue,” now well out of print. One article particularly took my fancy, it was the Canadian Growhole. Used for growing in cold climates, like a greenhouse but level with the ground. They work well in dry climates because the plastic sheet roof collects condensed water vapour from the air overnight, then, as the day warms up drop the condensed water on the self watering plants. The plants benefit from the heat of the ground. Another great Canadian innovation. Good luck with your turnips in Ontario!
Cough, cough.
Posted by: Paul | Jan 14 2022 6:02 utc | 98
Off all topics but very good reads above from abiotics to color revs.
Did you know how diabetes is created in lab rats?
Exposure to 2g radiation.
Enjoy your 5g folks. (Havanna syndrome etc. Can be alleviated by something as simple as chicken wire around your home.
Or old cooking trays n pans s hooked to wall racks in exposed areas.
Posted by: Janice | Jan 14 2022 6:07 utc | 99
@87.
Suggest you cut off the “?fbclid=IwAR0dWrPNDM1m3Zyu6H-xzhYYs6_xVM70QePgoYlLa3Stq6NGFR78awfqVOo” tail in these links.
All you are doing is feeding Facebook tracking cookies.
Generally, the “?” and everything trailing is not necessary to access these links.
The “fbclid” is a known Facebook cookie — i.e., https://fbclid.com
For example this works just as well: https://fedcourt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/95053/Parties-jointly-agreed-Transcript-of-Interviews-conducted-by-the-ABF.pdf
Posted by: imo | Jan 14 2022 7:03 utc | 100