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November 05, 2021

U.S. Acknowledges The Tri-polar World

Andrei Martyanov has pointed to remarkable remarks the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley, has recently made at the Aspen Security Forum 2021.

Milley is, to my knowledge, the first U.S. official who proclaims that we are entering a trilateral world where the U.S. Russia and China are somewhat equal great powers.

Martyanov quotes RT which quotes Milley:

"We're entering into a tri-polar world with the US, Russia and China being all great powers. Just by introducing three vs two you get increased complexity."

After the second world war the cold war saw two superpowers, each leading a block of states, who held each other in balance while engaging in various small proxy conflicts around the world. In the late 1980s the Soviet Union ended the cold war by dissolving itself. The U.S. then had its 'unilateral moment' which it, in contradiction international law, abused to mess up the Balkan and the Middle East. The end of the 'unilateral moment' came into sight when in 2007 the Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that Russia would no longer endure the creeping expansion of NATO to its borders.

While the U.S. was bogged down in Middle East conflicts Russia rearmed with new weapons and China silently extended its capabilities. In 2015 Russia reentered the Middle East by coming to the help of the Syrian state which the U.S. was trying to eliminate. The 'unilateral moment' was over. China finally joined the club when it finished off the color revolution nonsense the U.S. was trying in Hong Kong. That rejection of U.S. hegemony on its doorsteps made it, in the eyes of Washington DC, into an 'enemy'.

Milley understanding of all this is still a bit fazed:

China's aspiration is to challenge the United States globally, Milley said. "They've been very clear about that. They have a China dream, and they want to challenge the so-called liberal, rules-based order that went into effect in 1945 at the end of World War II. They want to revise it. So, we have a … country that is becoming extraordinarily powerful that wants to revise the international order to their advantage. That's going to be a real challenge over the coming 10 to 20 years, [and it's] going to be really significant."

The 'the so-called liberal, rules-based order' did not go into effect in 1945 but in the early 1990 when the U.S. used its 'unilateral moment' to reject international law and to replace it with a self defined 'rules-based order' that it made up and unilaterally changed whenever that was convenient. The U.S. defined 'rules-based order' is now becoming irrelevant as Russia and China insist on the rule of international law.

As Milley is the first U.S. official to publicly acknowledge the existence of the tripolar world. It will likely take some time for others, especially in the State Department and in the Senate, to accept that position. Those who see the U.S. as exceptional will continue to have difficulties to adopt to the new world order.

A sign of this can be seen in the Defense Department writeup of Milley's talk in which the above Milley quote from the RT report is misrepresented:


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Calling the Cold War a bipolar war between the Soviet Union and the United States, Milley said the nation is entering into a tripolar war with the United States, Russia and China all as great powers. And adding in all the technologies that are coming at us very quickly, he said, we're entering into a world that is potentially much more strategically unstable than the last 40 to 70 years.

At 14:38 into the video of the talk at the DoD site one can clearly hear that Milley speaks of a "bipolar world" and a "tri-polar world", not of "war".

But that may just have been a bit too much realism and too little warmongering for the DoD's media department.

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Australia's "great and powerful 'friend' and strange bedfellows."

"What a relief to know that the US has our back in our trade dispute with China!

The front page of yesterday’s Global Times in China carried the following story

“China, US ink largest long-term LNG deal, in clear progress for phase 1 deal..."

https://johnmenadue.com/john-menadue-china-us-sign-a-mega-lng-deal-at-australias-expense/

The real tragedy is Australia's retarded duopoly leadership will neither remember, learn or acknowledge their mistakes from this outcome.

Posted by: Paul | Nov 6 2021 21:29 utc | 101

@46 Don Bacon, asking what reasons qualify Russia as a pole?

Answer: weapons.
Grieved | Nov 6 2021 4:38 utc | 51

Also: Energy. Europe and China need Russia.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 6 2021 20:45 utc | 97


Plus basic dignity and common sense, diplomatic skills. Needed by the west.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 6 2021 22:04 utc | 102

@100 No worries mate. We'll stop the LNG ships with our new nuclear subs.

Posted by: dh | Nov 6 2021 22:25 utc | 103

EI #5

Thank you for that interesting report 'War of the Worlds' by Pam Ho. I appreciated her description of the US elite but her fear mongering about Iran was amusing rather than informed.

There is a persistent theme across media to dismiss or demean Iran and ignore its achievement as the fourth pole in a multipolar world. The EU would like to get there too but they are chained to the US tumbrel for now.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 6 2021 22:39 utc | 104

Posted by: MagdaTam | Nov 6 2021 18:45 utc | 85

GEE THANKS, i AM GLAD I FINALLY KNOW WHAT i AM..

Posted by: snake | Nov 6 2021 22:57 utc | 105

A comment on laser weapons. With limited commands on physics (arrested at high school level, but with good grades), I do not fully comprehend the idea. That said, application against hypersonic weapons is a tough one. The idea of hypersonic weapons is that upon entering denser layers of atmosphere they maneuver using the same principle as glider. The difficulty in making such weapons is huge heat caused by friction with air at high speeds, so they must be highly heat resistant, hence, they may be "laser resistant".

Secondly, to operate as glider, hypersonic have quite a bit of surface, making them easier to hit, but harder to disable (perhaps changing a course, say, instead of annihilating one part of NYC, annihilating the adjacent one, especially if your beam is narrow. But if it is wider, it is not that hot.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 6 2021 23:22 utc | 106

Posted by: Paul | Nov 6 2021 21:29 utc | 100

Seems that Australia will manage, no thanks to USA. But EU is s...d: not just Gasprom, Americans also prefer long term contracts, Algieria dislikes piping gas through Morocco (should they be condemned for blackmail), Russia through Ukraine ... EU frowns upon North Stream, at least oil trade works well with spot market so they are not totally s...d.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 6 2021 23:30 utc | 107

Posted by: snake | Nov 6 2021 22:57 utc | 104

Don't take any notice of the nasty rhetoric from that word salad, it like to be quarrelsome.

Posted by: Paul | Nov 6 2021 23:31 utc | 108

@ Norwegian 101
what reasons qualify Russia as a pole? . . . weapons.

The US has been defeated in various places over the years because of weapons like fertilizer buried in the road. With all the latest weapons, the US hasn't been successful anywhere. Iran has beaten the well-armed "all options on the table" US by absorbing sanctions and getting even for some strikes, and absorbing some without payback. The US claims it has fifth-generation stealth fighters and they don't scare anybody, nor should they. IOW "weapons" are over-rated. The future is in low-budget drones, missiles and cyber which disarms the most complex weapons. Iran has shown the appointed enemies of the well-armed US that they too can set their own agenda, and need not cower before the big spender, poor results, Pentagon.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 6 2021 23:46 utc | 109

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 6 2021 23:30 utc | 106

Thanks Piotr, I agree with your point.

Australia was gamed into antagonising and insulting China at the tail end of the Trump administration.

Two former foreign ministers, Bishop & Downer, launched consecutive scripted anti China tirades on national TV echoing Trump's call for 'investigations' with 'weapons inspectors powers' and 'no WHO involvement' into the origin of the virus.

The unspoken corollary was the echo of Trumps demand the day before, for consequent 'big time reparations' and the 'cancellation of the US national debt'. [Trump knew the outcome of his hand picked 'investigators']. Sovereign immunity didn't come into his calculations.

The result was predictable.

No doubt the dupes Bishop & Downer received their scripts from the same people laughing now in Washington now.

The economic damage to Australia caused by these obsequious ideological idiots hasn't been fully calculated yet.

Posted by: Paul | Nov 7 2021 0:18 utc | 110

Perhaps someone has said it earlier, but of course it will be a unipolar world, not soon, it will take a while, but China knows patience. . . .and unlike most of the stuff we buy, this opinion was not made in China.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 7 2021 2:08 utc | 111

@58 robin

Yeah I get that! However, the CIA, Exxon, Haliburton, Israel, Turkey & Proxy Militias shifting oil & grain around the region to keep this boondoggle faux war on DAESH afloat, SAA & the Resistance would best destroy now to rebuild later and thereby send a message of intent. Otherwise these cockroaches will still be there long after we're all gone.

Posted by: WTFUD | Nov 7 2021 2:59 utc | 112

Funny how 3 little decades can change so much. 3 decades ago, the US had just won the Cold War. They were on the top of the world. It was the End of History. China was next to nothing. They were barely out of the Tienanmen mess. As for Russia, I can still remember jokes like this one:

What's the difference between a dollar and a ruble?
(answer: a dollar)

What has the world come to? Not even the smartest prophet could have predicted the world we're in now. Yet, the worm was already firmly in the fruit. Nothing can survive Neoliberalism. It's only a question of time.

Posted by: Robert Macaire | Nov 7 2021 3:10 utc | 113

@108 Don Bacon

What you say is true, but it doesn't scale up to MAD. When all nations under heaven could fight each other, and the reach of their dominion was limited to horseback and sailing fleets, heaven still remained untouched, and nations could do as they wished without destroying the world.

Nuclear weaponry changed that, and MAD became the fragile balance that held the earth under heaven in some kind of stability. MAD is still the stability that allows lesser weapons to be deployed in lesser fields - but all these deployments cast an eye on their potential effect on MAD. MAD is the very reason that a few US troops in Syria, wielding almost no heavy weaponry and stealing oil in a direct act of plunder, cannot be touched by local and national armies that possess vastly greater firepower.

That balance of MAD is what provides the umbrella under which the lesser fights can take place. And Russia has changed MAD with its new weapons. It's a huge change that the Pentagon is still trying to come to grips with - literally world scale, literally global change.

Mutually assured destruction has been replaced with certain destruction from Russia and potential destruction from the US, but very soon the defenses of Russia might even prevent or significantly diminish that threat from the US. The US can only pivot around that fact. It cannot ignore it, for it actually impacts the US like strong hands clamping on its shoulders.

This new Russian weaponry sets the pivot point, and cannot be gainsaid.

Posted by: Grieved | Nov 7 2021 5:04 utc | 114

The economic damage to Australia caused by these obsequious ideological idiots hasn't been fully calculated yet. Posted by: Paul | Nov 7 2021 0:18 utc | 109

I thought the Australian wines on Chinese supermarket shelves would dry up by now but they are still full. Don't know what's happening there.

Posted by: Walt | Nov 7 2021 5:26 utc | 115

@109 - Paul | Nov 7 2021 0:18 utc

China is Australia's biggest customer of raw material and supplier of finished goods. They simply re-assigned their Australian import quotas (wine, wheat, ...) to the USA market in order to accommodate the Trump bullying (at little or no pain) etc. Imo, the Americans and Chinese knew this was the most likely outcome. Therefore the US was quite happy to 'steal' the playlunch from their QUAD colony downunder. Nothing much new here (just followed London's play book) -- but the brazen level of it in broad daylight was a new development. And they just repeated it with the French submarines. The idiot "man from marketing" pretending to run the show in Canberra is a babbling Pentecostalist (and I understand there are several more from the cult whispering into the Cabinet level process).

From China's perspective, the scale of the Australian market (of 25 million) is about one city's worth and on par with Sri Lanka's national population size. Iron ore from South America (e.g. Brazil with a population market of 214-million) might be more expensive to ship but there is a large consumer in which to trade/barter the finished Chinese goods.

There aught to be an "Economic Treason" law on the books and a few of these Canberra sychophant subaltern satrapy 'public servants' should be hung for their crimes against national interest. I note in today's media that New Zealand (pop. 5-million) is standing firm on their middle way between China and USA. The female prime minister in NZ has more brains and balls than all the eunuchs collected in Canberra counted together!

Posted by: imo | Nov 7 2021 9:09 utc | 116

RE: Posted by: Black bread | Nov 6 2021 19:48 utc | 93

“They aspire to predict ...”

and consistently fail as a function of methodologies.

“Through the current live exercise they are testing how many and which people will go willingly to the slaughterhouse or will accept factual slavery if conditioned and scared enough on grounds of apocalyptical predictions and promises of "common good"... “

Perhaps replacement of “current” with “ongoing” would illuminate more and catalyse the question of why?

“ they were people well edcuated, read, and reserached, which considered and were able to differentiate objective data from plain propaganda”

“Educated” has different definitions describing different methodologies in/by different social relations but I realise your conditioning by usage of “were”.

These definitions have been subject to ongoing lateral interaction/change, whose facilitations included but were/are not restricted to a reduction of “which considered science an evolutionary (co-operative) process” thereby facilitating a reduction of “ability to differentiate objective data from plain propaganda”, rendering them increasingly “totalitarian institution where no debate is possible... “ encouraging some to create parallel relations in preparation, including but not limited to “brain drains”.

1971 was a very interesting time of changing/diverging vectors which facilitated the above with the complicity of “them”, and became a component part of why some did not attend COP26 in Glasgow, but were engaged elsewhere.

Posted by: MagdaTam | Nov 7 2021 9:36 utc | 117

Anyone else see this story?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59175317

Oddly, no Novichoks or deadly poisons that never actually kill anyone. So no psyop angle, this was hushed by both BBC and Russia's RT, who printed a 12 line article, and both reporting it over 2 weeks after the fact:

https://www.rt.com/russia/539446-diplomat-dead-in-berlin/

The fact his body was allegedly outside the Russian embassy could indicate perhaps a message is being sent to the Russians, perhaps someone dumping his body there, but that whole area is extremely well guarded. No car or person can drive past there without being tracked and risk being followed.

Or did he actually really 'fall' from the Embassy building, in which case, most of the building is set back from the street and surrounded by garden and walls making it also very unlikely, though that is in fact how both sources are reporting it, and 2 building wings do indeed face over Unter den Linden. So, a suicide, or a forced 'suicide'? Why there onto the street, and not over the internal courtyard instead? Very strange indeed, particularly since the Western media has oddly chosen not to make a bigger fuss about it.

Posted by: Et Tu | Nov 7 2021 10:06 utc | 118

In my undergrad days I had a notion to invent and market a convenient laser tool to cut holes in the ice to fish through. I spent a lot of time in the stacks at the engineering library and found some published Army research that was done in Antarctica around cutting ice with lasers. It turns out, the water generated during cutting refracts the laser and it loses all of its efficacy. The heft of a tool with the power to perform the task, and the potential for cutting my toes off, negated the whole idea.
My buddy had his own good idea to link up all your fire alarms with RF transmitters so a fire anywhere in your house sets off all of them. He sold it to Kidde for millions. There is a moral in here: the physics of the possible beats silly ideas every time.

Posted by: UnionHorse | Nov 7 2021 11:12 utc | 119

Piotr Berman @ 105

No, that is not the principle of hypersonics. Yes, the Russians have some hypersonics that operate somewhat as you imagine. All of the Russian strategic missiles of recent vintage maneuver and cannot be hit by anything in US arsenal, present or planned. Some of the Russian tactical missiles can maneuver. I could talk about plasma stealth but the exceptionalists here would be deaf.

The Iskander missiles were operational and deployed in 2005. That older and slower missile outperforms what US missiles in early development hope to do. US is minimum of twenty years behind. Probably more like twenty-five years behind with zero prospect of ever catching up. From US perspective Russia already has super weapons.

What US has is submarines that run aground. The submarine fleet has long been regarded as the most technically advanced and adept item in US inventory. With the best staffing. If the SSN Connecticut is the best we got, we got nothing.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 7 2021 12:09 utc | 120

@ Posted by: imo | Nov 7 2021 9:09 utc | 115

"on par with Sri Lanka's national population size"

That may be true, but your average Sri Lankan is not buying iPhones, SUV's or 4 Star Hotel holidays and Netflix subscriptions, and just as importantly, is not borrowing $1Million AUD from banks just to buy a 2/3 bedroom home... so not all populations #'s are equal. In consumer market terms Australia's small population punches way above its weight and its strategic location close to Asia means it could have more leverage than it thinks when negotiating with its Western 'allies' and China.

Perhaps a less antagonistic version of Turkey is one example of how Australia could benefit by playing both sides against each other: militarily allied to the West, but economically also trading with the East. Turkey has plenty of problems too of course, but in that neighbourhood, good luck to anyone else succeeding... regardless, it worked very well for them for many many centuries up until 100 or so years ago, not a bad run from old Roman times, and still a regional hegemon today.

Israel is another example, friendly with both the USA and Russia, heck, they even manage to get the US to pay for their military, and bomb Russia's allies in Syria with total impunity on a weekly basis!

But, as long as the 10-20k a year schools where Australia's ruling class is educated (believe me, i went to one) is a boys only club of mediocrity and ignorance, focused on status and sports, instead of substance, culture and actual education, morons who don't know the difference from Macchiato and Machiavelli will always be running the Government, and thus the country, into further insignificance.

Posted by: That's not a Knife | Nov 7 2021 12:16 utc | 121

Posted by: Et Tu | Nov 7 2021 10:06 utc | 117

...Very strange indeed, particularly since the Western media has oddly chosen not to make a bigger fuss about it.

Good point. A low hanging fruit if there ever was one. Any which way this story is presented, the takeaway sound bite would be "Russia russia; embassy; forceful fall; russia russia putin putin".

How come the dogs didn't bark? Is the incident too recent?

Posted by: robin | Nov 7 2021 12:27 utc | 122

@ Posted by: That's not a Knife | Nov 7 2021 12:16 utc | 120

IMHO, AUKUS was a 'quid pro quo' for tens of millions of Prizer and Moderna vaccine does suddenly appearing after ScoMo was left with his d1ck in the wind once Covid spread to Aus and no one was vaxxed yet.

There is no such thing as a free shrimp on the barbie ;

Posted by: Et Tu | Nov 7 2021 13:45 utc | 123

Posted by: waynorinorway | Nov 6 2021 20:06 utc | 95

"During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it. "

Martin Luther King popped into my mind as a prime example.

Posted by: arby | Nov 7 2021 14:38 utc | 124

encouraging some to create parallel relations in preparation, including but not limited to “brain drains”.

1971 was a very interesting time of changing/diverging vectors which facilitated the above with the complicity of “them”, and became a component part of why some did not attend COP26 in Glasgow, but were engaged elsewhere.

@Posted by: MagdaTam | Nov 7 2021 9:36 utc | 117

Well, for a time, when things started going really ugly here, I was considering migrating to Russia, buy dissuades me of doing so your joining in with the same totalitarian measures ocntrol...That, added to the difficulty of learning your language, way passed childhood years, completely discourage whomever

That you mssed COP26 and are willing to make a soft trnasition to renevables and clean energy, including nuclear, does not uimply you are not only supporting bu talso encouraging the absurd measure impossed here whi killed the economy and more people than the virus itself...

As the old saying goes, one would be a fool if going from Guatemala to Guatepeor...Only thing in favor of your country right now, to my view, is the access to cheaper energy and resources, which is not few due the look events are taking...

Posted by: Black bread | Nov 7 2021 15:40 utc | 125

The Idea of superpower is outdated in an increasingly interconnected world. If the US bombs China it bombs it's own industrial base. Even a limited war would completely disrupt supply chains. Basically people in the US and China would run out of food if there was even a limited war and most of our infrastructure would stop working for lack of parts. The United States and China cannot produce enough to cover thier own needs in key areas. Even limited ditect War between Super powers is obsolete.

Posted by: ATM | Nov 7 2021 20:48 utc | 126

Thanks, karlof1 @ 11 for posting the Chinese response to the US "tri-polar" statement. I like very much the Chinese phrasing of "a community of human destiny" as that allows the mind to escape divisions and focus positively on our universal problems and achievements. We are otherwise left with continual hierarchical divisions that only serve to raise negative and combative issues, in a time when, to mangle an historical meme, if we don't work together we will all face annihilation separately.

The Russian and Chinese mantras are that each nation can be individual in its spiritual formation whilst immersed in a larger whole - but even the large nations are vulnerable in the long run if others do not add momentum, large or small. That's a cohesive understanding the US government doesn't seem able to aspire to. In that it is very small indeed.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 7 2021 21:46 utc | 127

ATM @126

Finally a sensible comment. Methinks many here spent too much time as boys reading Popular Mechanics.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 7 2021 23:30 utc | 128

Gen. Milley's comments indirectly reflect the panic that America's Pentagon psychopaths and propagandists in general are experiencing as America's ambitions for world domination (or "Full Spectrum Dominance" to use Pentagon DoubleSpeak) are running up against reality.

Grab your popcorn and buckle your seatbelts.

America and its allies will descend even further into psychosis and madness, as their other delusions--such as national lies about their fake values like "Freedom and Democracy"--also will unravel.

The collapse of the capitalist financial system--particularly the Ponzi Scheme better known as the American economy and the quadrillion dollar Derivatives Bubble--draw nigh.

Posted by: ak74 | Nov 8 2021 6:55 utc | 129

russia will makes its move in n.ukraine under cover of heavy winter weather when satellite coverage will be useless

Posted by: mcohen | Nov 8 2021 8:37 utc | 130

RE: Posted by: Black bread | Nov 7 2021 15:40 utc | 125

“I was considering migrating to Russia, buy dissuades me of doing so your joining in with the same totalitarian measures ocntrol...That, added to the difficulty of learning your language, way passed childhood years, completely discourage whomever “

Totalitarianism – totalitarian measures control.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historikerstreit”

“The Historikerstreit (German: [hɪsˈtoːʁɪkɐˌʃtʁaɪt], "historians' dispute")[1] was a dispute in the late 1980s in West Germany between conservative and left-of-center academics and other intellectuals about how to incorporate Nazi Germany and the Holocaust into German historiography, and more generally into the German people's view of themselves.[2]
…....

Nolte argued that there was no moral difference between the crimes of the Soviet Union and those of Nazi Germany.”

This is an example of Wikipedia's utility in facilitating misrepresentation by "the new" overwriting "the old".

The primary misrepresentations include but are not limited to:

The subjects (plural) of "the dispute"

The post-war roles and productions of Mr. Ernst Nolte https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Nolte which also contains misrepresentations.

Some consequences/trajectories of the meeting of the Imperial General Staff with participation of “allies” excluding “The Soviet Union” in London during March 1943, one month after the “Axis” surrenger at Stalingrad

The contingent agreement reached between Mr. Allan Dulles and Mr. Karl Wolff for the SD on 4th May 1945 near Bolzano.

The subjects,durations, half-lives,outcomes and scopes of the Nurenberg trials.

The “whitewashing partly by differentiation” of the SD/SS to facilitate the BND (West German intelligence” titularly created in April 1956 but de facto created in 1943 as the “Gehlen Organisation”)

The "whitewashing" of the Wehrmacht to create NATO.

The "whitewashing" of the co-operation by Switzerland and the economies of the “Greater Reich” and "The United States of America" to facilitate/finance both the "Greater Reich" and the later Wirtschaftswunder in co-operation/integration with “Western economies”.

The “whitewashing” of the complicities/motivations/perceptions/roles of the general populations of the former “Greater Reich” during the period from 1923 until 1945.

all in order to facilitate, in parallel with activities elsewhere in the vicinity, the “American sphere of influence in Europe” primarily through four vectors:

The Marshall Plan

The “creation/integration” of the economy of “Western Europe”

The “creation/integration” of The Federal Republic of Germany

The “creation/integration” of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO)

Except as a tool in facilitating Mr. Ben Gurion's successes during the 1950's in “persuading” the Federal Republic of Germany to pay repararations to The State of Israel, the Holocaust was not assigned significance even in Israel until 1961, but became of increased utility from 1967 onwards.

This is also reflected in the World Jewish Congress' “translation” of Pastor Neimoller's observation in rendering the original version of:

“First they came for the communists, but I was not a communist”

into

“First they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew”.

This also renders the misrepresentation by Wikipedia of the subjects of “historian's debate” which was never only restricted to historians or to 1986, as being a “plausible belief” to some.

Totalitarianism has many definitions and alleged examples often predicated on the conflation of attempt with achievement.

Derivates/synonyms of totalitarianism in some definitions include but are not limited to:

Full spectrum dominance

Hegemony

The “German” trajctories outlined above were necessitated by the realisation that “totalitarianism” would be useful but not attained, with which Mr. Malley and others agree, hence his recent illogical statement, conditioned by hope that “totalitarianism” can be restricted to three (an oxymoron) predicated on projection.

There are no totalitarian states, no totalitarian measures, and no hegemons, except in the imaginations of some spectators included in the consistently fearful, who often are “We the people (who) hold these truths to be self-evident....” - there have been/are attempts at such which were not are not achieved.

There were/are observers from The Peolpe's Republic of China and The Russian Federation whilst in respect of The Russian Federation the leadership (plural) attented to other more productive matters.

So I ponder, which “totalitarian measures control”,do you mean in “your contribution”.?

Posted by: MagdaTam | Nov 9 2021 11:17 utc | 131

@Posted by: MagdaTam | Nov 9 2021 11:17 utc | 131

I am meaning totalitarian measures related to basic human rights, like freedom of movement, freedom of travelling, right to work to make a living, right to buy and sell, right to culture and leisure, which the imposition of vaccine passports undermine, thus, which makes the vaccination with to date experimental meds de facto mandatory which is a breaking of the UN Charter on Human Rights, Nuremberg L Legislation, national Constitutions, Basic Sanitary Law, and Basic Law on Autonomy of the Patient, and so on...

That you ask at the G20 for the mutual recognition of this "Sanitary pass", plus the fact that you imposse it to workers, travellers, and even Duma deputies, equates de oppressive conditions currently in force in the West....

With regard the historical notes you give on the reality about the mimetizing and reset of the III Reich into the EU/NATO/The West, although not so in detail, I am fully aware thanks to a blog and account of a former citizen of the DDR...I use to follow time ago...

BTW, yesterday they broadcast again "Atomic Blonde"... May be self encouraging themselves....

https://youtu.be/cYtGJGp-9hA

Posted by: Black bread | Nov 9 2021 23:14 utc | 132

RE: Posted by: Black bread | Nov 9 2021 23:14 utc | 132

Thank your clarifying somne of the illusions of, encouraged by/within, the coercive social relations self-designated as "The United States of America".

Perhaps like Mr. Milley you start to recognise that the ongoing "cold war" is not between "nation states" but between the culture of "I" and the culture of "we", as has been the case since at least 1922 in the opinion of Mr. Suslov, the COP26 conference being in large part saturated by the culture of "I" as many start to recognise, akin to the "currency reset" in 1971.

Posted by: MagdaTam | Nov 10 2021 11:58 utc | 133

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