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November 21, 2021

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2021-090

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

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Other issues:

Criminal Interference Agency:

Guaido is finished:

Covid-19:

Alastair Crooke triplet:

Boeing:

Use as open thread ...

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@ Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 22 2021 0:57 utc | 99

I appreciate your compliment. I just wanted to highlight that the truth has a value in itself, it doesn't depend on the messenger.

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Rest of the world geopolitics:

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David P. Goldman still trying to sell fool's gold to China

The shape of a potential US-China deal: Reduction of Trump-era tariffs on Chinese imports could see Beijing loosen monetary policy and ease runaway inflation in the US

The rate of the Renminbi is considered to be an entirely internal issue by China. It is not negotiable.

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Modi caves on farm laws in major policy defeat

Farmers are what, 95% of India's population?

There's a limit to ideological fanaticism.

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There goes another far-right hero:

It’ll be ‘jab or death’ for anti-vaxxers, Orban predicts

He's ordinary.

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Katyn Forest massacre:

In the Polish forest, desperate migrants and a grave marked by a red light

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A Power Struggle Over Cobalt Rattles the Clean Energy Revolution by Dionne Searcey, Michael Forsythe and Eric Lipton (NYT)

Everybody and their mothers knew this would happen. It is what it is: Congo will feel the impact of the titanic clash between socialism and capitalism.

Posted by: vk | Nov 22 2021 1:12 utc | 101

Mexico's anti-neoliberal movement grows despite US meddling and media smears

https://youtu.be/vp1no7Idbx4

Moderate Rebels - Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton discuss Mexico's progressive President Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) and the left-wing Morena party alliance victory in the June 2021 elections with journalist José Luis Granados Ceja.

USA NED/USAID meddling: funding for the neoliberal opposition and media attacks.

Posted by: Guerrero | Nov 22 2021 1:15 utc | 102

Ideologues are impervious to facts. Ideology will trump facts every single time. They will try bend/invert reality in an attempt to make it conform with their ideology.

Once you have demonstrated that you are an ideologue I simply skip over everything you post as I know that you are willing to invert/bend reality to suit your ideology and therefore everything you post is suspect. Whether your interpretation of events or links that you present (as you will only do so when they conform to your ideology).

The Rittenhouse thread did a masterful job of exposing the ideologues.


Posted by: Down South | Nov 22 2021 1:30 utc | 103

b

RT credits the story "Can a space war be stopped?" to Paul Robinson, not to Scott Ritter (as you do).

Posted by: Sarcophilus | Nov 22 2021 1:55 utc | 104

Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 21 2021 19:33 utc | 40

Mostly agree with this (and would find it sad if you ban vk, that one poster is far from the worst “wall-of-text” commenter, even if I deeply dislike some of his japan crap).

And while I am at it could you do us all a favour? please put the commenter name (the line “posted by:”) first, at the very start of the comment. That would make the comments thread much more inviting and might stimulate more diverse posters to comment. I know you’re argument for the present structure. I often don’t comment because I had to waste too much time figuring out who said what and scroll past a long comment to see the author. Please?

(and thanks in advance)

Posted by: phiw13 | Nov 22 2021 1:56 utc | 105

Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 21 2021 19:33 utc | 40

Mostly agree with this (and would find it sad if you ban vk, that one poster is far from the worst “wall-of-text” commenter, even if I deeply dislike some of his japan crap).

And while I am at it could you do us all a favour? please put the commenter name (the line “posted by:”) first, at the very start of the comment. That would make the comments thread much more inviting and might stimulate more diverse posters to comment. I know you’re argument for the present structure. I often don’t comment because I had to waste too much time figuring out who said what and scroll past a long comment to see the author. Please?

(and thanks in advance)

Posted by: phiw13 | Nov 22 2021 1:56 utc | 106

@Karlof1 96

It is kind of hilarious that the western media and the various officials quoted by the western media pretend (or maybe they really are that stupid) they don't know what Russia's intentions are regarding The Donbass or with the recent troop movements.

I don't think it could be any clearer that if Ukraine invades The Donbass (or Crimea) Russia will respond forcefully, probably very forcefully. I realize much of the spin is to trick western citizens into believing Russia is the aggressor, and to an extent it has worked, but Americans are currently to obsessed by the ongoing societal implosion to really care one way or the other about Russia or China.

Senior Gruff makes a good point in that as far as Russia or China are concerned, opinion from the Anglosphere is becoming largely not relevant.

Posted by: Haassaan | Nov 22 2021 1:58 utc | 107

@Lurk, 81

I disagree with vk on a few things,
mostly because I see him as a wildly biased ideologue who is often just short of an outright bigot. Yet the sources he cites in support of his comments are always interesting, and I find them to be perfectly consistent with the overarching tenor of b's own analysis and commentary: the US empire in decline, US institutions (economics, academics, the press, social-ethnic-economic inequality, etc) are in a steep decline, and the corruption and incompetence of US diplomacy, governance, capitalism, and US aggression abroad are all the key causes of that decline, as well as making it all much more dangerous and worse than it needs to be.

It's only the trolls, here, who disagree with any of that. vk's links always offer corroborative information and analysis in that regard, and if you have a problem with an analytical or news item simply because it comes from RT, Sputnik, or TASS the you, M. Lurk, are one of them.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Nov 22 2021 2:30 utc | 108

The Threat of a Sino-Russian Fleet Circumnavigating Japan: How should Japan respond? by Tetsuo Kotani, The Diplomat

Try to move your island a little bit further to the east, maybe?

No, seriously now: a canal partitioning Honshu in half will suffice.

Posted by: vk | Nov 22 2021 2:34 utc | 109

Anyone knows why Jackrabbit is not posting these days?

Posted by: AB17 | Nov 22 2021 3:12 utc | 110

@Posted by: vk | Nov 22 2021 1:12 utc | 102

"The shape of a potential US-China deal: Reduction of Trump-era tariffs on Chinese imports could see Beijing loosen monetary policy and ease runaway inflation in the US

The rate of the Renminbi is considered to be an entirely internal issue by China. It is not negotiable."

This is exactly the game played with Japan in the late 1980s/early1990s, ending in the massive financial bubble and bust. I can't see the Chinese leadership not knowing this history.

Katyn was the intentional murder of 20,000 Polish POWs, not quite the same as five migrants in a Polish forest. Also, very bad taste.

Posted by: Roger | Nov 22 2021 3:15 utc | 111

@ Posted by: Roger | Nov 22 2021 3:15 utc | 112

Japan's housing bubble came after, not before, the Plaza Accord.

Posted by: vk | Nov 22 2021 3:25 utc | 112

@Pacifica Advocate | Nov 22 2021 2:30 utc | 109

and if you have a problem with an analytical or news item simply because it comes from RT, Sputnik, or TASS the you, M. Lurk, are one of them.

If you learn to read the comments that you reply to, you do not have to valiantly attack strawmen (or perhaps that is what you wanted after all?)

I was responding to Patroklos' claims that vk links would be rare nuggets of information not found elsewhere. I refuted that by pointing out the mundaneness of sources like Sputnik and RT. I never objected to those as sources per se, as you accuse me of.

In other news, vk just spammed links to Washington Post and New York Times articles. More rare nuggets from the obscured and suppressed samizdat press.

And no, I generally don't consider the short blurbs that go along with vk's links "analysis". "Self-congratulatory" is a more apt description. But they do reverberate nicely in some people's echo chambers, that's readily apparent. In my opinion that sort of material is not what makes MoA stand out as an interesting site, real analysis and debate are.

Posted by: Lurk | Nov 22 2021 3:26 utc | 113

After his performance in the Rittenhouse threads, any of you who think that VK offers anything other than than dishonest and incompetent partisan goal-shifting ("analysis") reveal yourselves to be hopelessly credulous, at the least.

Posted by: Herr Ringbone | Nov 22 2021 4:05 utc | 114

@ all 1
I remember him.
He’s the dirtbag who gunned down a guy, ambush style, on the Portland streets.
He ran, became a fugitive, and engaged in a gunfight with Fed law enforcement.
Thus, his miserable, murdering life was ended.
I remember that guy (spit)

Posted by: Ackman419 | Nov 22 2021 4:16 utc | 115

Multiple dead, 20+ injured after SUV plows into Christmas parade in Wisconsin

Posted by: vk | Nov 22 2021 4:44 utc | 117

I hope the perpetrator weren't of the left. Violence would be spiraling out of control if they are.

Posted by: Lucci | Nov 22 2021 5:04 utc | 117

What you say is true but the central problem is more profound and historical. US power historically has maintained a tradition of killing non-White people, or credibly threatening to kill them, to dominate them to steal their property and power. The killing began in the 17th century with the three century genocide of Indigenous Americans accompanied by the
the enslavement of African Americans, who were survivers of the wars, raids and lethal transportation.

The wars since world war 2 have all been against non-White powers and peoples, the vast majority of the world's people being non-White. The American people have been influenced by this history, largely unconsciously, with the young kids like Rittenhouse activating on it. It is a geo-cultural problem not a legal problem, the US legal system being perverted by the geo-culture.

Posted by: Mathew | Nov 22 2021 5:12 utc | 118

@118

I don't know their political affiliation, but at least one perpetrator is black. Violence in the USA is going to spin out of control one way or the other, but this will likely hasten it. Good news for Russia, China and much of the rest of the world, but things aren't going to be much fun here in the States. Oh well, sometimes you gotta take one for the team.

Posted by: ArthurDent | Nov 22 2021 5:18 utc | 119

Vk 117
The parade was clearly, from the video, marching away from the perp.
So your attempt at humor falls flat.
Mine is much better.


Anyways, the perp is a criminal thug, just like the kind of people that attacked Mr. Rittenhouse.

Posted by: Culture War | Nov 22 2021 5:39 utc | 120

@117 vk

You made an utterly disgusting comment.

Posted by: Grieved | Nov 22 2021 5:44 utc | 121

I enjoy vk's posts. and they are in well-formed paragraphs so I find them easy to visually scan and mentally filter, even when they are long.

Posted by: mastameta | Nov 22 2021 6:07 utc | 122

vk is an obvious Neocon troll, not sure how anyone at this site thinks he is here in good faith.

Posted by: J-Dogg | Nov 22 2021 6:10 utc | 123

b

Thank you for the Guaido is finished:

The Three-Act Tragicomedy of the Venezuelan Opposition - Venezuela Analysis

THAT was a mighty gratifying read.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 22 2021 7:17 utc | 124

jayc #73

interview with Daniel Lazare
https://eraoflight.com/2021/11/19/us-blacklists-strategic-culture-foundation-in-attack-on-independent-journalism-and-political-dissent/

If it helps; Daniele Lazare's recent report is available at the UK Weekly Workers site.

Clearly the Communist Party of Great Britain has a fine appreciation for good journalism. The criminal rogue empire will be pleading with Boris the Menace to ban them next.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 22 2021 7:38 utc | 125

A TeenVogue article about Iran-Contra??

Yeah, right! Why not just read the one who's done the most on this topic - Robert Parry?

Posted by: v | Nov 22 2021 7:43 utc | 126

William Gruff #101

Russia will lose the narrative war, but I am starting to wonder if that is even important anymore. Does it really matter what the western public thinks anymore, and is there anything the Russians could do about it in any case?

Thank you for that. Perhaps Russia will lose the narrative war in the west but I sense they will win the narrative war within the UN and their homeland. The believability of the US thieving rogue empire declines daily among diplomats across the spectrum. They only win friends by purchasing them - such was Xerxes decline too. Certainly the year ahead will be a time to remember and with luck much of it will be assessed, poked, inverted and its entrails examined here in MoA.

Once Russia completes the administrative niceties via the parliamentary process I expect there will be a rapid maneuver or two.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 22 2021 7:48 utc | 127

vk #117

Self defense!

Multiple dead, 20+ injured after SUV plows into Christmas parade in Wisconsin

vk please report to the IT service desk. Your AI rom needs an replacement. Your cpu is not up to date either it seems. Be advised that your Texas Instruments 'sense of humour' rom will be replaced with a new SMIC 'sense of dignity' version.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 22 2021 7:55 utc | 128

Russian reactions?

After Donbass, what happens? The Russians are now patrolling close to the East Syrian-US enclave. Expect more close contacts, nothing that a bit of judo pressure using weak spots won't help to straighten things out, but I doubt that it is a friendly get-together.

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Note that the US also steals Yemeni Oil as well as Syrian. There was a brief report (non- confirmed) that Russia was sending a "fleet" of tankers to the US to help out - at Bidens request. Curious, when taken with many discrete movements of large military aircraft in the direction of Djibouti (Type globemaster, destination not confirmed).

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 22 2021 8:18 utc | 129

The Dutch people are getting a taste of what they dished out to the Indonesians all those centuries ago. The Hague is burning.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 22 2021 8:23 utc | 130

Found object in revolver

Epstein was not the end of the system and he may have a potential successor in Whitefish Montana.

Whitefish, Mont., is known for fly fishing and hiking trails studded with yellow Aspen trees. But after Silicon Valley billionaire Michael Goguen took up residence in the Rocky Mountain town several years ago, he transformed it into his private fiefdom: a dark banana republic where he allegedly controls local law enforcement — and a “harem” of young women.

The bombshell allegations, which also include claims of Goguen ordering his security chief to kill detractors, are contained in a lengthy civil complaint recently filed in United States District Court for the District of Montana.

According to the court papers, Goguen, 57, employs hundreds of residents in companies he controls, and owns a series of luxury “safe houses” where he takes dozens of young women for sex. He has a spreadsheet documenting his sexual encounters with 5,000 women, and even outfitted a local bar he owns with a basement “boom boom” room, which features a stripper pole. The underground enclave is allegedly used “to maintain women for the purpose of committing illicit sexual activity.”

One gets the impression that the USA is an oligarchs play pen rather than a nation. But it seems it is the links to tech business that is the most interesting.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 22 2021 8:36 utc | 131

@all -

I have banned "vK" for:
a. repeatedly posting screenspace wasting comments with links to ordinary yahoo level news stories of no interest despite having been warned to not do such.
b. general bad faith trolling of the MoA community (see @117 for an example).

Posted by: b | Nov 22 2021 8:43 utc | 132

No reason to visit MoA again then. Good riddance.

Posted by: Hangar | Nov 22 2021 9:02 utc | 133

@133
Bad move IMO. VK provides important Marxist commentary on this fine forum. You ought to repeal the ban after a week.

Posted by: isu152 | Nov 22 2021 9:05 utc | 134

Include me out.

Posted by: Walt | Nov 22 2021 9:19 utc | 135

I think I'll just add that, as a relatively recent and avid follower, I was shocked by the Rittenhouse column and most of the comments under it. I am no longer comfortable with the company I have been keeping, and this decision makes it easy to depart. I guess it shows the cultural chasm between the USA and the rest of the world that it thinks the answer to gun violence is more guns. Over and out.

Posted by: Walt | Nov 22 2021 9:26 utc | 136

The mighty heroes of Vietnam's liberation from USA colonialism pass by. Vietnamese National Hero, Colonel Đặng Văn Việt, Who Helped Vietnam End Its Colonial Scourge, Dies at Age 102

This report from Covert Action Magazine promptly segues to General Võ Nguyên Giáp.

A few weeks ago, an extraordinary Vietnamese war hero and a great friend of mine passed away at the age of 102. I used to play tennis with him until he was about 90 years old. Unsurprisingly, as a former tennis champion of Vietnam of the late eighties, the much older Đặng Văn Việt often beat me.

Long before I was born he became the youngest colonel in the Việt Minh (now People’s Army of Vietnam) and served under the legendary general Võ Nguyên Giáp whom I also was honored to meet.

As a young man, Giáp had worked in his peasant family’s rice fields to make enough money for his education; this helped him earn a bachelor’s degree in law. In 1941 Hồ Chí Minh and his close comrades, including Giáp, an early member of the Communist Party, set up the Vietnamese Independence Movement (“Việt Minh”) in Vietnam which was then a French colony.

Three years later Giáp gathered together a tiny group of 31 men and 3 women armed with flintlock rifles as the armed wing of the Việt Minh, which he turned within a few years into a formidable guerilla force and then into a successful unconventional conventional army.

Under his command the Vietnamese military defeated both the French and the invading U.S. armies. Giáp, who was remembered by his fellow university students as a highly intelligent individual, had thoroughly studied countless writings on warfare, from Sun Tze to Napoleon including the teachings from brilliant Vietnamese military leaders of the past.

Giáp was also the military mentor and coach of my friend Đặng Văn Việt who stemmed from a prestigious family of mandarins. His ancestors were generals from the Trần dynasty which defeated the Mongolians in the 13th century.

Family members were scholars and ministers during different dynasties. His father was appointed minister by President Hồ Chí Minh in his first government. As a fierce patriot, Đặng Văn Việt gave up his studies at the faculty of medicine in Hanoi to join the Việt Minh in 1943 at the age of 23 in order to fight the foreign intruders and he quickly became the Việt Minh’s youngest colonel.

General Võ Nguyên Giáp entrusted him with some of the most difficult military tasks. Colonel Việt was put in charge of the regiment that inflicted the first great defeat in 1950 on the French colonial army (according to Yves Gras’s “Histoire de la guerre d’Indochine”, Denoël 1992) along the colonial number four highway at the Chinese border.

This worth the few minutes to read if for no other reason than to refresh the reason why the outlaw US empire is a failed state. I searched nhan dan to see if there were any obits worthy of mention but came away empty handed.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 22 2021 9:51 utc | 137

Posted by: Walt | Nov 22 2021 9:26 utc | 137

Lol yeah me too. Have a good one.

Posted by: Lucci | Nov 22 2021 10:01 utc | 138

I am uncertain whether this report by laodan has been posted here but it provides an informative analysis of Michael Hudson's interpretation of history and economy over millennia.

The following is an extract from the "Volume 2. Modernity" of my series "From Modernity to After-Modernity" that I'm presently editing.

I give this extract as a blog post because it is adding some more substance to the post "Michael Hudson Asks Naked Capitalism's readers... " that I published on 2021-04-15.

laodan writes well and I can recommend barflies visit periodically to enjoy the text and thinking.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 22 2021 10:01 utc | 139

Good morning all (and absent trollers returning home without any fish today - suicide by censor ?)

@ Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 22 2021 7:55 utc | 129, I was planning to state that AI flying blue monkey army drone troll bots are deployed beyond their capability - its a Atlantic Council/ Bellends/integrity initiative thing... but Bernhards intervention just above has addressed the issue (the ‘guy’ was begging for it...lol having lost all credibility) watch as the rest of the flock bleats about MoA and tries to dislodge its greater significance in a world desperate for independent analysis and thought and away from controlled narratives.

A bit like when Off-G rotterweillers were unleashed on b and masterfully slapped down by him. The troll bots can returning to that controlled breeding ground.

So let’s just concentrate on what’s the big doody today?

Donbass- the Uke and nato freak dumbasses are planning on declaring a victory when Russia’s battalions don’t stroll into protect the antinazi People’s of that area - because it is unnecessary and would be a very easy stroll - as even the most brain dead supremacists of Benderist Ukrainians know - they expect nato boots on the ground! Fuckwits and just like the proxy mercenaries of Afghanistan they would fold like the house of cards they are. The only face saving that the retreating Empire can achieve is a claim that the Force of their abject failure did not lead to Russian troops ‘invading’ i.e. protecting their home and borderlands from an ever more deranged Nato expansion away from the North Atlantic, where it needs to get back to so that it can fool itself it is a big fish! float around in its little pond.

I really have no idea of what they think the two little coastguard boats being shipped to Ukrainians on a larger boat are going to do except be used in that absurd narrative.

Next - The Worms are turning everywhere- it appears Iraqi locals have had enough as have Syrian locals and Yemeni locals and even Lebanese and Jordanian locals - tribal elders all over have finally realised the Empires troopers aren’t really their great friends - even if they are charming and speak the language like a native - they aren’t going to be bought off as their camel driving fathers and grandfathers were. As far as I understand the deadline is 31st December than ALL the nato nazi troops will be fired upon - yay even their pretty specials. Maybe b has more insight?

What else is there? A digital ID for every human in the ever decreasing circle of the Dominate Empire? With Covid passports as the excuse? I doubt if instinctive humans will accept that curtailment of freedom, the modern Bread and Circuses are designed to keep the populace busy as the Empire tries to get us to ignore the grand retreat.

There is and has only ever been one enemy of humanity and the Planet - a very tiny subset that set itself apart as the OWNERS of us all and their paid mercenaries - every single narrative ever created and accepted over centuries has been to protect them and keep us fighting between ourselves instead.

Except for oasis’s of truth seekers such as this.

Posted by: D.G. | Nov 22 2021 10:06 utc | 140

Posted by: Walt | Nov 22 2021 9:26 utc | 137

I appreciated the Rittenhouse column for the valuable insight into the bitterly divided US psyche.

As I commented earlier "I blame the police", but I am not an American. I understand the 2nd amendment and the crazy legal complexities of self defence.

I remember taking my .303 SMLE home on the bus from school as a teenager in cadet uniform. It would cause a sensation today.

My problem, back in those distant days, was I could not legally shoot on a Sunday because of the Sunday Observance Act. I have grown up since then, guns are not a big part of my life now.

Posted by: Paul | Nov 22 2021 10:10 utc | 141

@Geroman retweets "Extremely cold in Alaska right now. The first -40°C of the winter has been recorded.

This is about 2 weeks earlier than average."


If it is f'ing cold early in Alaska then it is likely to get hysterisch gefrieren if they can't get that gas problem sorted. The German government is so entirely craven and ridiculous over this game of bluff that they deserve to freeze. But give the German people a break you morons. My guess is that Berlin will end up in flames just so people can stay warm and to hell with covid lockdowns and wimpy stuff. Reichstag feuersbrunst 2 is coming.

Good one Merkel - handing on a flaming torch to her opponents/allies as they form a new government. I guess its the German equivalent of Russiagate but it could all go so terribly wrong given the sane hands of the Lavrov/Vlad team.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 22 2021 10:20 utc | 142

J-Dogg | Nov 22 2021 6:10 utc | 124

VK?
I think just a little rich boy playing at being a marxist.
He likes to paint himself as an impoverished third world victim, broken by the imperialism of the European, railing against the injustices wrought by the white man.
In reality, a privileged upbringing in Brazil where poverty is endemic, expensive school,English language lessons,and regular overseas holidays to hone his English skills.
Maybe independently wealthy, but more likely receiving a generous stipend from mummy and daddy. Being a man of leisure he has ample time to post copious amount of irrelevant material on this blog site, and no doubt many others, this gentleman of leisure is certainly not a one trick pony when he it comes to posting nonsense. With so much time on his hands, Mummy probably pays for the maid and houseboy.
Brief visits to one of daddies factories provides the necessary exposure to further his understanding of Marx's theory of exploitation.

Visit the favelas? no way, not in these Guiseppe Zanotti 'Lewis Special' loafers.

Having said that, I don't think he should be banned. As with any commentators you can ignore, skim over or read with interest.

Posted by: ted001 | Nov 22 2021 10:23 utc | 143

@all -

I have banned "vK" for:
a. repeatedly posting screenspace wasting comments with links to ordinary yahoo level news stories of no interest despite having been warned to not do such.
b. general bad faith trolling of the MoA community (see @117 for an example).

Posted by: b | Nov 22 2021 8:43 utc | 133

Do us a favor and bans these newly arrived trolls as well will you? That KR articles of yours invited them here ruining the board.

Posted by: Lucci | Nov 22 2021 11:12 utc | 144

@25 Passer by
"Look up Argentina (...)"

There is currently spring in Argentina.

Posted by: m | Nov 22 2021 11:22 utc | 145

D.G. | Nov 22 2021 10:06 utc | 141

Donbass.

The US brass are now saying that the Russian buildup is "more thought through" than in April. ie. Now there are 40 Battalions as opposed to 53 earlier. But, there are also twitter scenes where Russian Brass are visiting new barracks being built in Crimea. I reckon they might be planning a permanent larger presence closer to the frontier. So if the Bandies decide to be stupid (which they will probably be), all will be prepared well in advance.

The continued heavy shelling of Gorlovka, signals that they don't have an ounce of brain between them. (or grammes, as they only can count on their fingers)
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I do expect that increased Russsian "activity" will be seen on all NATO/US overseas "fronts", wherever possible. (ie Syria).
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Tribal groups? Excellent, a third way. The equivalent of the popular uprisings in the EU?

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Posted by: Lucci | Nov 22 2021 11:12 utc | 146

I suspect even b was surprised by the vehemence in the rottenhouse thread. Almost as bad as the Biden/Trump bashing bouts.

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 22 2021 11:46 utc | 146

Andrei Martyanov had an interesting analysis of the West’s newly hyped hypersonic missile Dark Eagle

So, whenever I hear such "news" as Dark Eagle's hype, I understand that people are being, as is standard today, lied to in order to allay their concerns and give them some comfort with a notion that at least "something is being done". In reality however, this hype is designed to avoid a disclosure of the scale of the West's loss across the board from economy, to culture to military, not to mention the fact that media everywhere long ago stopped being news organizations and are either pushers of suicidal policies or providers of everyday entertainment in which only hype sells.

"Expertise" Porn. The Case of Dark Eagle.

Posted by: Down South | Nov 22 2021 11:48 utc | 147

There were small children laying all over the road, there were police officers and EMTs doing CPR on multiple members of the parade,” he said

https://news.yahoo.com/joy-turns-horror-suv-speeds-054554688.html

and Lucci's first thought is

I hope the perpetrator weren't of the left.

Posted by: Lucci | Nov 22 2021 5:04 utc | 118

seriously?

Posted by: NotGuilty | Nov 22 2021 12:15 utc | 148

You disappoint me, b. Banning vk over those posts is too much censorship for me, on top of the censoring of criticism against Covid-1984.

vk, please start up your own blog, preferably not on blogspot or other corporate crap. I strongly disagree with your interpretation of the Rittenhouse events but think nobody has a hold on truth. I’ve learned much from people with whom I don’t fully agree. I look for a high “signal to noise” ratio. So while I might disagree with b or you or others from time to time, I’d learn nothing if I ignored people like you. I’d like to continue reading your writing.

Jackrabbit, hope you’re okay, man.

Lurk, you’re an okay fella. Peace.

Posted by: son of spam | Nov 22 2021 12:40 utc | 149

NotGuilty | Nov 22 2021 12:15 utc | 150

Most of the "dancing group" hit in the parade were aged from 9-12.
tragic.

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Down South | Nov 22 2021 11:48 utc | 149

To show how the US technology is outdated, the Russians are planning to use old ICBM's as rocket launchers, for low orbit small satellites. "Waste not, want not" as the saying goes.

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 22 2021 12:45 utc | 150

and Lucci's first thought is

I hope the perpetrator weren't of the left.
Posted by: Lucci | Nov 22 2021 5:04 utc | 118

seriously?

Posted by: NotGuilty | Nov 22 2021 12:15 utc | 150

Of course that's my first thought after how bad it is for all the victims. Because this will harden both camp and ensure civil wars to break out in full. As much as i am happy to see US empire dismantled i just hope they left the World stage as peacefully as USSR.
Their ruling class has tendencies to start up something outside to distract domestic audiences. That's what i fear.

Posted by: Lucci | Nov 22 2021 13:18 utc | 151

To show how the US technology is outdated, the Russians are planning to use old ICBM's as rocket launchers, for low orbit small satellites. "Waste not, want not" as the saying goes.

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 22 2021 12:45 utc | 152

The rocket itself or just their silos?
But i think we're well past the point for US government to think reasonable expenses is what logical choices for them. After all to them the money is 'free'.

Posted by: Lucci | Nov 22 2021 13:23 utc | 152

Their ruling class has tendencies to start up something outside to distract domestic audiences. That's what i fear.

Posted by: Lucci | Nov 22 2021 13:18 utc | 153

That's what worries me too, another attempt to get the fire burning hot. The trial & media circus sure got the wood dry.

I do take some small comfort from knowing that most of these wealthy clowns will go first thing, if they decide to externalize their problems again. The Russians are meticulous.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 22 2021 13:33 utc | 153

@ 96

‘it would have noted the very important decree issued by Putin that amounts to a R2P declaration for the Donbass republics‘

Nicely played. :)

Posted by: financial matters | Nov 22 2021 13:46 utc | 154

Posted by: b | Nov 22 2021 8:43 utc | 133

Bad move b.
1.Vk, who was subject to more unfair personal attacks than anyone here, was one of the best commenters on MoA. Controversial sure, but stimulating even more. The comment @117 was not humor, it was a scathing satirical indictment of the American cesspool of violence and those who expressed faux outrage should focus their attention on the sick state of affairs in the US rather than making vk a scapegoat. I hope all you self-righteous jerks who got off on attacking vk enjoy your pathetic echo chamber now.

2. The 1st Rittenhouse post was ill advised and b should have recognized that when the comments went to hell. The 2nd one was completely unnecessary and that b put it out, knowing what to expect, took the blog right down to twitter level.

TYT, Kyle Kulinksi and now MoA have all lost cred. Sad, b, you had it going for a long time.
C-ya round the campus sometime, maybe.

Karlof1, hope you keep your VK space filled. I’ll be there.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Nov 22 2021 13:59 utc | 155

Lucci | Nov 22 2021 13:23 utc | 154

The rockets themselves. They paint them bright yellow first, but still on mobile launchers. Silos are so..... brandon.

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 22 2021 14:00 utc | 156

Posted by: waynorinorway | Nov 22 2021 13:59 utc | 157

His post at @117 is typical bait. I wouldn't blame him too much seeing KR threads regressing into something you would only see at far right forum like Zerohedge. I even suspect posters from there is the one drowning everyone else in cesspool of childish insults and name calling.

Permanent ban shouldn't be in order but if that is what it is @b should be fair and do his clean up of those newly arrived trolls that's even worse than him.

Posted by: Lucci | Nov 22 2021 14:13 utc | 157

The things that some people say shouldn't be discussed are the very things that need to be discussed.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 22 2021 14:31 utc | 158

https://english.pravda.ru/news/world/149689-usa_turkey_russia_bosphorus/

US and Turkey discuss closing the Bosphorus to Russian warships. Carrot for Turkey is deal on North Syria.

Posted by: Keith | Nov 22 2021 14:34 utc | 159

Lucci @159

Posting the same lies repeatedly despite those lies repeatedly being debunked is 100% troll behavior. Such trolls should consider themselves lucky to be allowed to continue their trolling.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 22 2021 14:35 utc | 160

I wouldn't be surprised that several convoys are getting ready to enter Donbass. The Duma ought to have made the required adjustments to Russian law Putin's decree required and the R2P operation ought to begin soon.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 22 2021 0:41 utc | 96

Actually, an "operation" is ongoing for months, and there was another decree, to equalize the important indicators of the level of leaving between Donbass and the adjacent Russian Rostov region (oblast'). Very soon after, the wages in the budget sphere were equalized, roughly doubling them. Concerning the private sector, the main enterprises of Donbass were barely alive, with reduced staff and many thousands of workers being owed months of salaries. The management was given to a Russian entrepreneur with Ukrainian (Donbass?) roots, and the actions were swift. Full steel making cycle, spread between several big factories, is restored, all back wages paid, laid off workers are rehired, maintenance and modernization resumed, and there was a report of a shortage of raw materials (a bit unclear to me, seems that unlike before, Donbass needs more metallurgic coal than it produces). With the current steel shortage on the world market, Russia surely can use few extra millions of tons.

The other part of the decree was to equalize the status of certificates of origin between (free) Donbass and Russia, which allows to freely sell products in Russia, and explicitly, to government purchasers as well. As energy crises hinders the industry on the other side of the line of control, and coal mines are getting closed or barely working, free Donbass will show benefits of staying with Russia.

The question arises: why only now? There are several reasons, but unspoken reason is that Putin is almost maniacal in balancing the budget -- part of "economical fortress" strategy. Heavy subsidies to Donbass in lean years would divert limited resources, and raise gripes within Russia. Now oil and gas get prices well above the "break even point", and export taxes allow to invest across Russia, including the "social sphere". The other aspect is the strategic decision not to "give face" to Germany, France etc. -- rather pointless as each of them has at least two faces already.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 22 2021 14:40 utc | 161

Posted by: Keith | Nov 22 2021 14:34 utc | 161

https://english.pravda.ru/news/world/149689-usa_turkey_russia_bosphorus/

Wow that's a Masterstroke from Erdogan if he manage to make such imbalanced deal. US basically offered Kurdish rebels heads in exchange of something that Turkey can reverse anytime it wanted to.

Posted by: Lucci | Nov 22 2021 14:45 utc | 162


Not sure if I can post lefty good news like this anymore.

The United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV) candidates hold leads in 20 out of 23 states for the governor's race.

Posted by: arby | Nov 22 2021 15:00 utc | 163

I think I'll just add that: as a very old follower since more than 15yrs, I wasn't shocked at all by b's Rittenhouse column and most of the comments under it. I am since very long absolutely not comfortable with the company I have been keeping, antisemites, racists, brutal rightwing weapon fanatics. they would still kill runaway slaves today bcs it's "american" and their constitutional right. all supported by the host in Hamburg. vk is the clearest and most educated commenter on this blog, keep on! this decision makes it easy to depart. I guess it shows the cultural chasm between the USA and the rest of the world that it thinks the answer to gun violence is more guns. Over and out. Greetings from Buenos Aires!

Posted by: thomas | Nov 22 2021 15:04 utc | 164

vk threatened me with death on at least two occasions and I will not miss him. Those were also the only two times he ever behaved as if he were a real live person. Think of all his voluminous scribbling. How much do any of us know about vk the person? Nothing. The simplest explanation for that would be he is not a person.

vk fanboys proclaiming their allegiance - goodbye. Hard to know if any of you are real either.

There was another poster here whose name is thankfully forgotten. The supposed computer genius living in an SRO in San Francisco. Posted even more sheer volume than vk. He threatened me with death half a dozen times. And threatened others regularly. He too had a legion of fanboys. All of them equally suspect.

Online personas are not necessarily real.

vk entirely quit responding to me after I caught him a few times on Marx minutiae. I am no Marxist scholar. Did spend some decades in those halls and picked up a few things. vk does not know beans about Marxism. Reminds me of all those I knew who read Monthly Review or even Progressive Labor and could spit it out, being correct and current while having no understanding of anything. Any who are impressed by the vk style of fake erudition should really put down the keyboard and read a few books. Would only take a few to know more than vk and start laughing at him.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 22 2021 15:13 utc | 165

You people are confused.
vk was warned about violating b's explicit requests to keep posts short.
This has never been about what vk posts, it has to do with him refusing the owner and operator of MoA's reasonable request.

Note that I, for all that I utterly disrespect vk's capability and posts, have never called for a ban.

Ultimately I think everyone has the right to speech and that the marketplace of ideas must always be populated with all views - no matter how idiotic.

And this is despite very clear evidence that vk uses alternate identities to astroturf.

So this isn't about content - it is about an individual who refuses reasonable requests to keep the comments section accessible to everyone.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 15:20 utc | 166

@Patroklos #74
No, vk dumps enormous amounts of material - little of which is of any interest to anyone who does any amount of light reading on the internet.
I can recall a handful of links that were of interest and otherwise not known out of literally thousands.
But that's fine - no one must post interesting comments all the time.

However, I would note that this type of behavior is most typically associated with people trying to hijack a site.

If vk really has so many fans and is such a wonderful thinker and internet data curator - he/she/it should go off and make their own blog.

From my view - I have seen little to no positive contribution from vk, since I do not grade on volume, and I have seen a LOT of nonsense from same.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 15:25 utc | 167

Yeah, where's JackRabbit? Hope all's OK.

On the subject of censorship of vk: b sets the rules, and vk didn't use feedback, which was timely (in advance of sanctions) and specific.

I also will miss vk, but...MoA is a privilege and not a right.

Keep it going, MoA commenters. Let's recover from the losses, honor the great contributions, and move the parade forward.

====

@161 Keith:

Thanks for that link. I interpret that as leverage-building by Turkey .vs. Russia; it's a gambit in the never-ending jockeying for power and resources. Erdogan is quite the accomplished poker player in a region of the world unsurpassed in poker-playing.

That said, Turkey is currently being shredded economically by the Western capitalists, and Erdogan isn't in love with them much. Turkey's economic future may very well lie to the East, and the East has loooong memories. China and Iran aren't going to be much-pleased with this move, and won't be shy about communicating that fact to Turkey.

Lastly, how much military-ship transit does Russia conduct through the Bosphorus? Having those ships "bottled up" in the Black sea...keeps those ships right where Russia wants them...in the Black sea. Can others comment on the actual impact to Russia's Black sea military operations of Turkey's potential Bosphorus closing?

Most of Russia's power projection throughout SW Asia and Mediterranean is done via commercial freighter, it seems to me.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Nov 22 2021 15:27 utc | 168

@Oldhipper #167
I know exactly what you mean.
That idiot, and I don't use that term lightly in this case, had literally no idea of reality or scholarship.
I busted his chops so many times on his outright bullshit.
I hope he is fine physically, but I don't miss those posts at all due to their utter lack of either useful or interesting content.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 15:28 utc | 169

@waynorinorway #157
Goodbye and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 15:30 utc | 170

@131 uncle tungsten - The Hague is burning

I note this flowed from anti-lockdown protests.

And I recall a few weeks ago seeing a copy of the report that 65,000 packages incoming from India to Holland - almost all for individuals, and all containing ivermectin - were impounded by Dutch customs as prohibited substances.

What a rotten trick, to pull that hard-fought gain away from beleaguered individuals simply trying to survive. Let the fucking Hague burn.

Posted by: Grieved | Nov 22 2021 15:41 utc | 171

@Stonebird #148
I don't know why b would be surprised.
A lot of reasonable people I know thought that Rittenhouse was some hothead who rushed to Kenosha to shoot random black people.
The videos and trial evidence show clearly this is not the case: that the New York Times, MSDNC, CNN and all the other liberal rags have been pushing a bullshit story for well over a year.

These reasonable people who have better things to do than read twitter all day long, take their news from trusted sources like the above and naturally came to the completely wrong conclusion.

Most of the "negative" comments - i.e. the ones whining/complaining/bemoaning the outcome of the Rittenhouse trial are clearly based on either:
a) anti-gun agenda. No gun, no killing
This is not untrue but is also irrelevant. These people think it is apparently fine for Rittenhouse to have been beaten up by multiple grown men - men who instigated the incidents. In the United States, people have a right to self defense and this includes guns.
In other countries, this may not be true but applying other nation's laws and mores to the United States is as idiotic as Americans applying their laws and mores to other countries.
b) Rittenhouse shouldn't have been there
I absolutely agree that going into a riot area isn't the safest or smartest strategy, but I also understand why many people including Rittenhouse didn't want to stand by and watch their town burn.
But this is irrelevant. Even if Rittenhouse had gone there to get into rioters' faces - it doesn't change the facts of self-defense.
3) Utter ignorance of the law and of the burden of proof.
If the prosecution had charged him with 3rd degree manslaughter, the outcome would very possibly have been different.
However, whether it was due to political pressure or idiocy or something else, the prosecution went for 1st degree charges.
1st degree charges pretty much always require intent, and the videos and evidence are abundantly clear that Rittenhouse did not have any such intent.

What is absolutely clear is that almost all of the whiners/complainers/bemoaners don't actually understand the law, care about the evidence or consider what happens when justice is served under Twitter induced mania as opposed to hundreds of years of judicial precedent.

I don't agree with b on a number of things, but I always respect his integrity and attention to detail.

All these commenters attacking b because he doesn't conform to their prejudices can fuck off.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 15:45 utc | 172

Goodbye and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 15:30 utc | 172

Touché my clever fellow, touché.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Nov 22 2021 15:49 utc | 173

@Tom Pfotzer #170
The reason Russia needs a warm water port is because that nation is so laterally large but has very little year-round access to the sea outside of its eastern coast - where very few people and very little commerce exists.
The Crimea and Black Sea fleet is there because Russia has military, economic and strategic interests in the Middle East, Africa, Indian Ocean and Atlantic. The Baltic ports are not reliably navigable year round and furthermore are a major bottleneck due to constriction and water depth.
The cat and mouse game played by American subs and Russian boomers, for example, largely occurs because said subs have to go into port sometime. Having a single, shallow, narrow area to traverse isn't the greatest when trying to either openly or stealthily enter or exit.
The Baltic Sea average depth is less than 200 feet vs. the draught of a Typhoon class sub (Akula) being 40 feet, for example.
All of this is due to MacKinder - bottling up Russia is precisely a MacKinderian strategy. Yes, the advent of hypersonic and cruise missiles changes the destructive reach from the Russian mainland or the Black Sea, but there are still numerous reasons why Russia would want to be able to send its fleet from the Black Sea. For example, Russia sent supplies and arms by ship to Syria multiple times during the peak of the civil war there.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 15:54 utc | 174

"The United States has been added to an annual list of “backsliding” democracies for the first time, a downward trend that began in 2019 and has deteriorated since, an intergovernmental body said in its new report.

The Stockholm-based International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance (IDEA) uses 50 years of democratic indicators for its flagship report on the state of democracy in the world.

“This year we coded the United States as backsliding for the first time, but our data suggest that the backsliding episode began at least in 2019,” said the report, Global State of Democracy 2021, which was released on Monday.

The report pointed to the growing polarization in America, as well as voting laws that “disproportionately” affect minorities in a negative way.

Posted by: arby | Nov 22 2021 15:55 utc | 175

vk @52, Thank you for linking to the presentation to Bishop Kiril. I am not sure why you think it is a lamentable scene, particularly given the quote below:

... "Undoubtedly, the church has known different times yet today its voice again has gained an enormous significance, it is being listened to, it is trusted. And this is in many ways the result of your personal efforts and tireless ministerial labors, the sincere care to instill in people’s hearts the ideals of peace, kindness, justice, love and mutual understanding," the head of state said.

"Your Holiness, it is a great, enormous honor for me to mark your achievements, your labors for the benefit of the Motherland and present you with Russia’s highest award - the Order of St. Andrew the Apostle the First-Called, a particularly honored illuminator and a preacher of the Christian faith," the president emphasized.

Actually, vk, I do understand your lament. You follow the Western calendar, so have begun the Nativity fast a few weeks early - please rejoice in the upcoming American Thanksgiving day - Old calendar begins the fast on the 28th of November!

Posted by: juliania | Nov 22 2021 15:57 utc | 176

vk @52, Thank you for linking to the presentation to Bishop Kiril. I am not sure why you think it is a lamentable scene, particularly given the quote below:

... "Undoubtedly, the church has known different times yet today its voice again has gained an enormous significance, it is being listened to, it is trusted. And this is in many ways the result of your personal efforts and tireless ministerial labors, the sincere care to instill in people’s hearts the ideals of peace, kindness, justice, love and mutual understanding," the head of state said.

"Your Holiness, it is a great, enormous honor for me to mark your achievements, your labors for the benefit of the Motherland and present you with Russia’s highest award - the Order of St. Andrew the Apostle the First-Called, a particularly honored illuminator and a preacher of the Christian faith," the president emphasized.

Actually, vk, I do understand your lament. You follow the Western calendar, so have begun the Nativity fast a few weeks early - please rejoice in the upcoming American Thanksgiving day - Old calendar begins the fast on the 28th of November!

Posted by: juliania | Nov 22 2021 15:57 utc | 177

@thomas #156
You're supposedly an old follower - yet clearly you don't understand the difference between ideology and reason.
And equally clearly, you don't understand that there are reasonable people who have different views than you.
For example - I am no doubt a right wing gun nut in your mind.
I could respond that you are clearly a woke and naive tree hugger.
But I don't bother because I don't give a shit who or what you are. What I care about is fact and reason.
Every time I hear a call for deus ex machina regulation of opposing views, I immediately disrespect the person doing so.
I don't care if they're doing it because they're stupid, lazy, angry, whatever - they're doing it because they clearly don't think their ideas can survive without outside interference.
If all you do is read b's articles to pander to your own prejudices, then you've missed what I believe to be the entire point of MoA.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 16:01 utc | 178

c1ue @174

The jury were allowed to consider lesser charges. This is probably one of the reasons deliberation took so long. I don't happen to know what lesser charges were allowed, but for sure 2nd degree at least.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 22 2021 16:03 utc | 179

Katyn was the intentional murder of 20,000 Polish POWs, not quite the same as five migrants in a Polish forest. Also, very bad taste.

By the Germans/Ukrainians wasn't it???

INDY

Posted by: George W Oprisko | Nov 22 2021 16:03 utc | 180

@Posted by: George W Oprisko | Nov 22 2021 16:03 utc | 181

"By the Germans/Ukrainians wasn't it???" [About Katyn massacre]

Even Russia accepts that this was ordered by Stalin. From a geopolitical sense it actually had some logic, as it was the cream of the Polish aristocracy that hated Russia with a passion and would have been a thorn in the side if Russia took back Poland - the conflict between the two nations goes back many centuries. So please go away with your denialist crap.

"Russian leaders have publicly expressed regret for the massacre and this year saw the official online publication, by order of Mr Medvedev, of key documents proving the guilt of Stalin and his secret police chief Lavrenty Beria."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11845315

Posted by: Roger | Nov 22 2021 16:15 utc | 181

It appears that this comment sections is going to be leaning further right that is already is.

Posted by: Michael Weddington | Nov 22 2021 16:15 utc | 182

I lost some significant amount of respect for Stephanie Kelton due to this interview:

Michael Moore interviews Stephanie Kelton on Rumble

Michael Moore is what he is. I respect him for being willing to call bullshit on anything but he has his own prejudices (as do we all).

Kelton here sounds exactly like a political party hack. No data of any kind, but a "believe me everything will be fine" echo chamber.

Maybe it was just the format, but making a bold statement like "the supply chain is the cause of inflation and it will all go away" is exactly what the Federal Reserve has been saying.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 16:20 utc | 183

Taking MoA off my bookmark lists for censorship.

Bye

Posted by: furies | Nov 22 2021 16:28 utc | 184

Apologies for my previous post, b. I was responding as I read this morning. Hadn't reached the 117 entry. Feel free to delete both that and this. And Happy our Thanksgiving to you and yours.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 22 2021 16:28 utc | 185

@Posted by: arby | Nov 22 2021 15:55 utc | 177

"The United States has been added to an annual list of “backsliding” democracies for the first time, a downward trend that began in 2019 and has deteriorated since, an intergovernmental body said in its new report."

LMFAO, so not in 2000 when the Supreme Court stole it for Bush, not in 2004 with all the chicanery in Ohio, not after Citizens United rules the US an oligarchy ruled by money in 2010, not in 2017 when a court ruled that the DNC is a private business that has a right to rig primaries ....

Looking into them a bit, they look like a classic R2P propaganda outfit. Its members include India, where the RSS is attempting to install Hindutva and rob Moslems of their citizenship, the "very democratic" South Africa, Brazil (law fare coup), Canada (never saw a right wing autocracy that it didn't like) etc. Maybe they had to say something about the US with the changes to the leadership in Mexico and Peru and Europe feeling badly treated by their master.

Posted by: Roger | Nov 22 2021 16:29 utc | 186

Every popular site must have reasonable rules of conduct to facilitate exchange of ideas. MoA has been quite liberal in this regard, given the sites "barfly" ethos. However people who try to hijack conversations consistently through nonsensical spamming are like the drunk guy at the bar barging into every conversation with the same crap. They detract from the quality of the conversation and can very reasonably be banned.

Btw, expect to see a bunch of comments from random sign-ons lamenting a "drift to the right", "authoritarianism" or somesuch claptrap. It's very easy to set up multiple signons and spam that way too, especially for someone with endless time.

Posted by: Caliman | Nov 22 2021 16:29 utc | 187

Posted by: m | Nov 22 2021 11:22 utc | 147

Several countries mentioned, not just Argentina. If you were not lazy, you would notice plenty of european countries having a new Covid wave even in the summer.

Posted by: Passer by | Nov 22 2021 16:36 utc | 188

This is interesting but the correlation is unlikely, whatever John Burns thinks:
John Burns on crypto impact on housing

First of all, any twitter based query is going to be disproportionately skewed towards the techno - of which crypto entirely overlaps. It is like asking on twitter if anyone owns smartphone.

Secondly, he says that the crypto bubble is spilling over into housing - this is wrong. The everything bubble has puffed up everything and sectors will reinforce each other. Nor is his view very likely given the relative numbers.

The Census tallies new houses sold every month. In September of 2021 alone, 800000 new houses were sold with a median price of $408,800.

Existing house sales for the past year was 6.34 million = 528000 per month average.

So around 1.3M to 1.4M houses sold per month.

And let's say the used houses are cheaper, so we use $300K as an average sales price.

And furthermore, let's say people put 10% down on a house. I'll also use 5% for giggles sake.

1.3M houses @ $300k with 10% down payment means $39 billion put up as down payments.

The inflows into all of crypto for the past year are well under $10B: ~$8B for bitcoin, ~$1.3B for ether and ~$500M for all the rest.

How likely is it that even 5% of the $39B came from crypto sales?

Overall crypto market cap has increased from ~$500B in December 2020 to ~2.5 trillion now, so $1 put into crypto in December 2020 would, on average, be $5 now.

But only ~$10B of cash has gone in meaning, again on average, only $50B has been made of this cash.

I think we can safely exclude cryptocurrency founders as a statistically significant part of the population.

5% of $39B is $2b; 10% is $3.9B - vs. the $50B maximum that the entire market has made on invested funds.

Seems pretty damn unlikely to me. I'm sure there are some, but that crypto investors are behind the rise in housing prices - no f'ing way.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 16:39 utc | 189

@William Gruff #180
You need to read more detail.
If juries are allowed to consider lesser charges - it isn't open season on anything and everything.
In all cases, the lesser charges are ones which the prosecution must elect to bring. In Rittenhouse's case, the lesser charges were 2nd degree - which also require intent.
It is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to prove Rittenhouse had the intent to hurt or kill anyone given that he was literally running away from every single incident, and that every single incident was clearly initiated by the "victims".

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 16:48 utc | 190

It appears that this comment sections is going to be leaning further right that is already is.

@Posted by: Michael Weddington | Nov 22 2021 16:15 utc | 183

VK was literally asking to be banned with some of his recent postings, the murder of children is nothing to be made fun of no matter who does it, nor his shitty Katyn comment - pure trolling. I am left-wing and agree that Rittenhouse was not guilty, and that there was extensive prosecutorial misconduct (as does Taibbi, Dore, Greenwald, Mate, and other non-TDS'd and actual left-wingers as against "progressives"). The same with the extreme end of "Woke" which is so being used as a tool of division by the ruling class.

The Republicrats represent the capitalist ruling class, with slight variations due to different fractions. They utilize culture wars (abortion, racism and racist anti-racism, extreme gender ideology etc.) to divide up the rest of the population that vastly outnumber them and to redirect conversation to anything but class. They can play this game all day long, as it is relatively cheap to buy the politicians, the MSM, and the NGO-complex, and they will until things run out of control and they bring in the truly authoritarian regime that they have been working on (Patriot Act, banning/censoring of alternative voices etc.).

In Kenosha the 86% white police stood by whilst a majority white mob destroyed a minority-owned business district. Why would they do that, if not to stoke the divisions in our society? Who told them to? Then a white boy kills 2 and wounds 1 white criminals, in a town that he is a lifeguard at and has many friends and family connections in, and it is labelled a race crime where "he crossed state lines" (the propagandist repeated mantra of the MSM). Who benefits from this? Then extensive prosecutorial misconduct is used in an attempt to railroad him into prison, with media sites censoring opinion and even GoFundME helping remove his ability to fund his defence on bullshit grounds. The elite coordination on this was very tight, no way all that happens by itself.

This is all from the colour revolution, regime change playbook, just brought back to the homeland.

Posted by: Roger | Nov 22 2021 16:49 utc | 191

No reason to visit MoA again then. Good riddance.

Posted by: Hangar | Nov 22 2021 9:02 utc | 134

We surely will miss you [sorry for sounding insincere]

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 22 2021 16:50 utc | 192

The last few days have seen some interesting responses in posts on MOA.

This along with other information shows that there are two main sides here in a war with each other. The individualist and the socialist.

The individualist are generally pro violence when 'there' side is doing it and the socialist tends to be anti violent in most cases.

On a large scale, the pandemic and other things show this stark difference between the USA (pro violence and individualist) vs China (anti violence and socialist)

Site members often fall into the same categories, C1ue and William Gruff fall pretty strongly into the pro violent individualist side and others like Tom Q Collins and the now banned VK fall into the socialist side.

The pandemic showed quite clearly that China places peoples life above the economy and the USA and most of the world has shown that money is worth more than peoples life.

The intense greed and selfishness of the individualist people and nations is not even slightly surprising, but I must admit to being rather shocked just how socialist China really is. Even this week, they jailed 6 zoo administrators for covering up an escape of 3 leopards.

Both sides of this ideological divide have bad, greedy and terrible people, but it is easier to be so in an individualist society. Sociopathy is seen as praiseworthy in the USA and this pandemic has shown just how many people are willing to end their grandparents lives early for some time at a gym and a few parties.

Humans are not nice nor particularly rational. We have certainly not evolved sufficiently yet to qualify as 'humane'.

I admire China for attempting to advance the quality of peoples lives, but I doubt it will last for a century. Eventually human nature will take over. But perhaps we can see the attempt and try again in a few centuries.

Posted by: JustAnotherAussie | Nov 22 2021 16:53 utc | 193

@Roger #192
You said:

In Kenosha the 86% white police stood by whilst a majority white mob destroyed a minority-owned business district. Why would they do that, if not to stoke the divisions in our society? Who told them to?

Trump was against the riots and was telling everyone to crack down.

The Democrats and CNN/MSDNC etc, on the other hand, were screaming incessantly about righteous anger and "mostly peaceful" protests.

The mayor of Kenosha at the time: John Antaramian is Democrat.

The fingers all point in one direction.

So while I fully agree with your "Republikrat" statement, this particular case is entirely TDS/Democrat party nonsense.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 16:55 utc | 194

@176 c1ue:

I agree that Russia has geopolitical interests in the seas/passageways accessed from Black sea thru Bosphorus. But the potential shipping ban is for military vessels, not commercial. Supply ships would probably be exempted, even merchant marine. Is Turkey willing to embargo Russian commercial traffic? How will the neighbors view that development? Them next?

I don't think Black sea theater naval warfare is likely. The Black sea is too small, anything in it is a sitting duck for Russian weapons.

I agree that Russia needs deep- and warm-water naval access, but Bosphorous fails that test for the reasons you specified - too shallow, too narrow, etc. Black sea is a good local shipping route, and not a lot else.

Which is why I posed the question "why does Russia care for Turkey's theatrics?"

Lavrov picks up the phone, calls China, asks "is it time to slow-walk the discussion of BRI transit routes through Turkey?"

China invites Turkey in for tea next time they're in the neighborhood, which is quite often.

"How are you and your capital markets getting along these days?" asks Emperor Xi as the teakettle is heating up, obliquely winding into the discussion at hand.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Nov 22 2021 16:55 utc | 195

If you believe in capitalism then you are not on the left.

Posted by: Michael Weddington | Nov 22 2021 16:57 utc | 196

vk was repeatedly asked not to (as b says) post screen space wasting comments when a simple link would suffice.

It’s downright hilarious watching the completely fake wailing and gnashing of teeth on display here over vk’s banning.

Oldhippie @ 167

Ah yes, Richard Steven Hack or RSH, the self described anarchist who spent all his time defending the status quo.

Posted by: Down South | Nov 22 2021 17:04 utc | 197

c1ue | Nov 22 2021 15:45 utc | 174

I did say "vehemence", (violence) and I should have added "by the quantity". Not the content.
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I have my own (really quite pacifist) thoughts on the RottenHouse case, but they are more or less irrelevant to Americans. So I did not post at all on the subject, and read very little, after the first legal "thoughts" on the subject.

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Oops... I did make one post, that I was happy not to live in the US.

One problem you might like to cogitate on is that the US wants a worldwide "rules" based order, but which ones? Even they can't agree.

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Keith | Nov 22 2021 14:34 utc | 161

Note that Aliev in Azerbaijan shares Erdogan's thoughts on a new Empire/Caliphate or whatever he wants. The present fighting is designed to cut Armenia in half and make a large direct connection across it, to potentially link wannabe parts of the neo-otto empire (which goes up as far as Siberia !). (Aliev dixit)

Russia supports Armenia, so Erdogan could find that they might be tempted to screw his empire ambitions down a hole, if he really meant cutting off the Dardanelles. Apart from that, what is transit for one is controllable at both ends by someone else. You mean Turkey would not be able to send it's own ships through?

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Non-agressive lateral thinking; Both Russia and China are stepping up humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, in spite of ISIS (US) resurgence. In that part of the world, generosity is not forgotten.


Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 22 2021 17:13 utc | 198

@Stonebird #199
I am, in no way, a fan or supporter of US foreign policy.
I think it is entirely a function of the MIC combined with economic imperialism.
I will further add that American "rules based order" is complete bullshit when the rules are constantly changed to be whatever the US wants at the moment. Kosovo vs. Crimea is a perfect case in point.
But that doesn't mean I don't understand why these are happening, or by who.
Which is why I have said, for many year, that the only way anything will substantively change is with a literal Revolution.
The ongoing and deepening divide in the United States has progressed that timeline significantly.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 17:17 utc | 199

@Tom Pfotzer #196
The Black Sea and Bosphorus is not ideal, but there are no ideal setups for Russia given its geographic situation. At least until the Arctic ice permanently melts year round /sarc

But that's not the point. The point is that the Black Sea/Bosphorus is a 2nd entry point into the MacKinderian World Sea which isn't weeks sailing removed from the Russian population centers.

As for your supply ship quote - that was very ill thought out.
How is it wise, in any way, to send a civilian cargo ship filled with weapons to a war zone, unescorted? Fail

Nor is your flip China comment very insightful. Xi is not Putin's bitch; any favors Russia asks from China will be accompanied by demands.

China and Russia are friends for the moment because the US is pushing them together; there are numerous historical conflicts which still exist.

Chinese and Russian soldiers were shooting at each other in living memory on the Amur River border, for example.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 22 2021 17:24 utc | 200

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