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November 14, 2021
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2021-088

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Posted by b on November 14, 2021 at 12:38 UTC | Permalink
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we have not heard much about the war in Yemen.. seems the Yemeni have made significant progress in recent weeks.. anyone able to update the situation there?

Posted by: snake | Nov 14 2021 12:49 utc | 1

In Austria we have the first lockdown for the unvaccinated,
In Greece they are talking about rapid tests in order for the unvaccinated to get into s super market.
In Australia they are building camps for the unvaccinated
This has nothing to do with public health.
This is about imposing a world wide tyranny

Posted by: DG | Nov 14 2021 13:01 utc | 2

Posted by: snake | Nov 14 2021 12:49 utc | 1
News is sparse and I’m not paying that much attention, but
1.) It appears the Saudis withdrew from Hodeida and all or most of the province is now Houthi. May or may not still be fighting.
2.) Maarib is surrounded and about to fall.
3.) They’ve been shooting missiles and drones at Saudi Barbaria too.
4.) Usual bombing and other futility.
5.) Much alarm from Western side, exercises and so on.
I get the feeling things may be coming to a head there.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 14 2021 13:24 utc | 3

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04186-8_reference.pdf
Summary: This article discusses the mechanisms and chemistry of how T-cells clear covid infections. Which can be so quick and effective that there is no antibody response whatever.
Oldhippie gloss: It has been known at least since the Diamond Princess that most of the population is immune to covid. The usual number given, including from CDC, is that only 20% of us are susceptible. This article discusses how the 80% who are functionally immune do it. It is not about antibodies.
If one believes this virus is infectious and also believes in arithmetic the entire population has long been exposed and infected. By simple arithmetic there should be no naive population for the virus to infect. Yet the pandemic continues to find hosts. How can that be? This commenter would suggest there is a factor that is cancelling native innate immunity. Only visible candidate for that factor would be the vaccines.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 14 2021 13:30 utc | 4

So is this MOA guy still a virus panicker? I haven’t been back for a while because he lost all credibility for me when he went over to the Deep State dark side and started promoting their obvious lies.

Posted by: Freemon Sandlewould | Nov 14 2021 13:59 utc | 5

Unvaccinated should be put in concentration camps. If they don’t want social responsibility they deserve nothing back from society. In fact, the concentration camps should be left entirely to their own devices. Nothing in, nothing out. It’s that simple. It’s not tyranny. It’s getting rid of human capitalist scum who lack social conscience.

Posted by: Prof | Nov 14 2021 14:15 utc | 6

Posted by: Prof | Nov 14 2021 14:15 utc | 7
Nice sarcasm 🙂
Certainly, I would like to see concentration camps for .01%, Bezos, Gates, Dimon, Zuck, et. al. They certainly have earned it.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Nov 14 2021 14:20 utc | 7

Blue Dotterel @ 8
It’s not sarcasm.
He’s merely re-iterating the Chomsky option, named after Noam Chomsky

Philosopher Noam Chomsky argued that those who remain unvaccinated should be segregated, saying that obtaining food after they had “the decency to remove themselves from the community” was “their problem.”
After the left-wing linguist was asked what separation of the unvaccinated would look like on a practical level, Chomsky said the unvaccinated should remove themselves from the community for the safety of others and make arrangements to get food without coming into contact with others.
“How can we get food to them?” Chomsky told YouTube’s Primo Radical on Sunday. “Well, that’s actually their problem.”

Noam Chomsky: Unvaccinated should ‘remove themselves from the community,’ access to food ‘their problem’

Posted by: Down South | Nov 14 2021 14:35 utc | 8

Unvaccinated should be put in concentration camps. If they don’t want social responsibility they deserve nothing back from society. In fact, the concentration camps should be left entirely to their own devices. Nothing in, nothing out. It’s that simple. It’s not tyranny. It’s getting rid of human capitalist scum who lack social conscience.
Posted by: Prof | Nov 14 2021 14:15 utc | 7
I see the Nazis have arrived and are giving this blogpost some attention

Posted by: YourMom | Nov 14 2021 14:44 utc | 9

Nope, not sarcasm. Heard daily. Although the “capitalist scum” diversion and the Deep State non sequitur in the preceding post tell me these are likely trolls.
Family are telling me I should go ahead and get vexed because I will be killed if I don’t. That retribution will be visited on the unclean is becoming a default assumption. Of course those who will do the rounding up and patrol the camp perimeter are ‘socially responsible’. They are not to be considered as killers.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 14 2021 14:44 utc | 10

Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 14 2021 14:44 utc | 11
Sounds like Homo Sacer. From sacred to damned just one step.

Posted by: Paco | Nov 14 2021 14:58 utc | 11

It’s funny to read the comments in the nyt article: it’s all about Trump

Posted by: Platero | Nov 14 2021 15:03 utc | 12

Posted by: Down South | Nov 14 2021 14:35 utc | 9
Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 14 2021 14:44 utc | 11
I was being sarcastic :). I’ve read previous posts by the “prof”.
No doubt those patrolling the perimeters will be spreading the virus (and getting it) even though vaccinated.
Bezos has a dream to put everyone in concentration camps/work camps in space while the chosen few can live on a “saved” planet.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Nov 14 2021 15:11 utc | 13

Freemon Sandlewould | Nov 14 2021 13:59 utc | 6
Yes, he does so please piss off again

Posted by: ld | Nov 14 2021 15:19 utc | 14

I wouldn’t mind a concentration camp as Prof describes. As long as it is sufficiently large and has the resources to sustain an independent parallel society. Then, in good American fashion we can compete, unvaxxed society vs vaxed society, and see which sustains better.
@ Oldhippie 4
Those of us who have studied Immunology know that antibodies are just one part of an immune response. Sometimes they work in triggering a cellular (T, B cell) response and sometimes they don’t, just as some pathogens have ways of evading them or using them advantageously. Other systems, such as complement, nonspecific cellular responses (neutrophils, eosinophils, etc), and direct cellular (NK cells, sometimes T cells, monocytes, etc) also exist. Those individuals who focus exclusively or preferentially on antibodies have no idea what they are talking about.
Even if the entire population has been exposed, not everyone is exposed at the same time. Conventional thinking is that as the infectious agent travels through, it either dies out or mutates and reinfects people again, just like a seasonal cold, some of which belong to the Coronavirus family.

Posted by: Justi | Nov 14 2021 15:42 utc | 15

Link to Wikileaks
Link to Wikileaks
Link to Wikileaks
Link to Wikileaks
China’s crackdown on education, property leave wealthy in crisis mode, and some are looking for an escape route by He Huifeng, for the SCMP
The problem is that the situation was unsustainable. Inequality in China was ballooning. The CPC would collapse if it let the Chinese capitalists have carte blanche, something had to be done.
Besides, the CPC had the advantage of learning from the others’ mistakes. They see what happens when the capitalists are allowed to roam freely, mainly in the USA, but also the rest of the First World. It’s a world of brutality, ignorance, imbecility, disease and perpetual stagnation.
Also, nobody cares about the capitalists’ feelings. They can suffer in silence for all I care.
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Lukashenko: West will never forgive Belarus for surviving its pressure
That’s why the man has 99% of the vote.
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US Inflation more horrible than Washington admits: Shelter inflation is running at 10%-15% a year, not the reported 3.4%, and that’s a third of household budgets
This kind of discrepancy is normal in capitalist nation-states. The reason for this is that inflation data is compiled and sculpted by the State in order to reflect and privilege the lifestyle of its middle class, not the working class majority.
But there is data segmented according to “class” (actually, salaries). Inflation is always much higher for the poor. Taxes also hurt the poor more: the reason for that are the regressive taxes, mainly VAT. It is a myth the middle class pay more tax than everybody else: that is a MSM fabrication, which likes to associate tax with income tax (as if they were synonymous) in their articles (which invariably have a middle class readership).
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Capintern:
Former Japanese Princess Mako moves to New York with husband
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‘Utter betrayal’: civil society groups furious at Cop26 outcome
Say what!? The Western Left has made another lamentable display of it inoffensiveness and irrelevance!? No way!
I’m going to make a bold prediction: I think this Cop26 will be remembered by future historians as the Western Left’s last appearance in a stage with some remembrance of worldwide political relevance. After that, they will silently disappear from History.
That Greta Thunberg, by the way, is a fraud. Just the same old green slogans and narratives wrapped up in a new disguise. The Jordan Peterson of the Left.
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Illusions of grandeur:
After going dark on climate stage, U.S. reclaims leadership role at COP26 by Steven Mufson and Michael Birnbaum, for the WaPo
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The propaganda is getting more and more ridiculous as the American Empire degenerates:
In Cuba, Desires for Food and Freedom May Spark a Rare Day of Protest

Young dissidents who rely on the internet to spread their ideas are calling for a protest on Monday, a bold move with little precedent in Cuba.

So, they’re starving, but at the same time they “rely on the internet”.
Internet is extremely expensive in Cuba, specially mobile internet. You would have to spend up to USD 15,000 per year in order to have 24/7 access to the internet in your phone there. And that’s not even including the price of the phone itself.
If you’re starving (i.e. need food), and you have a smartphone in your hands, what’s the first thing you do? You sell your phone. That’s Economics 101, regardless of the situation you’re in: black market, barter, it doesn’t matter – where there’s hunger, there’s a way.
But not in Cuba, it seems. Those starving people not only are not giving up their smartphones and expensive internet packages, they’re also following the extremely counter-intuitive route of using this equipment to topple their own government! Very complex plan for a starving bunch.

Posted by: vk | Nov 14 2021 15:45 utc | 16

stack ’em up. . .
Bob Enyart, a conservative radio talk show host in Denver who urged listeners to boycott Covid-19 vaccines and vowed never to get a shot, has lost his life after contracting the virus, one of his co-hosts announced earlier this week, in what is but the latest instance of a right-wing radio pundit succumbing to the coronavirus.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 14 2021 15:47 utc | 17

@ Myself 16
I forgot to add some infectious agents go dormant (ie herpes), have an animal reservoir (ie influenza), or get integrated into the host (ie the theory on eukaryotic cells with mitochondrial DNA).

Posted by: Justin | Nov 14 2021 15:58 utc | 18

It would be a good idea to place the unvaccinated ( according to a MIT poll, highly informed people with higer education and good job posts…)for a while into concetration camps and be left to their own, of course, refusing thei usual high taxes and services to the community through their long careers.
First, I bet this strong, non submissive people will for sure manage to sruvive outside the scam capitalist financist economy.
Second, the socially adjusted vaccinated and the authorities they so faithfully serve, will not have anybody else to blame for the sick leaves and multiple health conditions produced by the vaccines they so kamikazely took than themselves, and why the authorities will not do such a thing in the first place, since people living on subsides do not pay taxes as most of the unvaccinated do and have done for decades.
Although could well be the case that the authorities do such a thing in order to get rid of the vaccinated falling sick, by blaming them, instead of the now unavailable unvaccinated, by whatever fault they are able to invent they have incurred, like not taking the last nth shot….
That these now evolved dictatorial authorities will anytime come after you, vaccinated people, through the dictatorial measures you so willingly helped to enforce, once they got rid of the unvaccinated, should be an understatement by whomever who takes two minutes a day to think.
That the requirements to be labeled a “good citizen” will go exponentially growing, to the extent of asking you to go to work for nothing on the never more arriving “back to normal, should also be clear for anybody stopping thinking

Posted by: Black bread | Nov 14 2021 15:58 utc | 19

@Justi
What is the subject of the second sentence of your second para?

Posted by: Platero | Nov 14 2021 16:00 utc | 20

@Oldhippie
There is now a t-cell test: t-detect.com

Posted by: Platero | Nov 14 2021 16:02 utc | 21

Posted by: Black bread | Nov 14 2021 15:58 utc | 20
Actually, if you haven’t had your most recent booster shot (at least in Israel), you are considered to be “unvaccinated”, no matter how many nth shots you have had.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Nov 14 2021 16:05 utc | 22

@Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 14 2021 15:47 utc | 18
Yeah, but for one unvaccinated who falls, how many vaccinated, radio hosts, tv hosts, directors of hospitals, and even heads of cardiological wards, high level sports and young people, even unborn, are falling?
What is in the origins of the ongoing epidemics of “sudden deaths” especially affecting young people like happened past day in a concert in Houston where a requisite to attend was owning a “vaccine pass”?
Bring in the numbers, which authorites in some countries refuse to give and which the mass media will never talk you about.

Posted by: Black bread | Nov 14 2021 16:11 utc | 23

re the ‘vaxed’ lockdown in Austria – let us hope there are riots to bring the government down.
To show how successful is the psychological warfare operation called Pandemic 2020, and the politicization of the ‘disease’ in the USA, Democrats believe that a positive Covid test leads to 50% hospitalization. They believe the unsick can make them sick. It’s insanity that a majority have swallowed hook, line and sinker.

Posted by: gottlieb | Nov 14 2021 16:13 utc | 24

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04186-8_reference.pdf
Summary: This article discusses the mechanisms and chemistry of how T-cells clear covid infections. Which can be so quick and effective that there is no antibody response whatever.
Oldhippie gloss: It has been known at least since the Diamond Princess that most of the population is immune to covid. The usual number given, including from CDC, is that only 20% of us are susceptible. This article discusses how the 80% who are functionally immune do it. It is not about antibodies.
If one believes this virus is infectious and also believes in arithmetic the entire population has long been exposed and infected. By simple arithmetic there should be no naive population for the virus to infect. Yet the pandemic continues to find hosts. How can that be? This commenter would suggest there is a factor that is cancelling native innate immunity. Only visible candidate for that factor would be the vaccines.
Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 14 2021 13:30 utc | 4
Thanks for your link Oldhippie, that is an interesting find.
It is noteworthy that in the SN-HCR group in that paper who had persistent resistence to SARS-CoV2, that resistence seemed – as I understand – to specifically target NSP12. Meanwhile, a component of the herbal medicine Andrographis paniculata – which is very effective both as preventative and curative against Covid-19 – also targets NSP12
https://jgeb.springeropen.com/track/pdf/10.1186/s43141-021-00201-7.pdf
I wonder whether Andrographis paniculata also causes the development of NSP12-targetting T-cells?
Your Yet the pandemic continues to find hosts. How can that be? question:
I am quite sure the “vaccines” that are not vaccines are causing proliferation of the virus, and they certainly seem also to be destroying the immunity to the virus that people had prior to vaccination. However I think there are also at least two other factors: As I understand, having immunity (whether antibodies, T-cells, or whatever) does not absolutely guarantee that we cannot be re-infected. (1) viral load is important. If we are exposed to a low viral load, an immunity which is sufficient to prevent infection may not be sufficient to prevent infection when the viral load is too high. (2) Despite having an immunity, which may prevent infection most of the time, if we are very weak at a particular time (eg trauma, bereavement, nutritional inadequacy, physical injury etc) that immunity may be insufficient. (3) Under a variety of conditions our general immunity may be degraded (immune-compromised). (4) Likewise in old age our immune system is weakened.

Posted by: BM | Nov 14 2021 16:14 utc | 25

Black bread, I couldn’t find the MIT poll you cite.

Posted by: Michael Weddington | Nov 14 2021 16:20 utc | 26

Posted by: BM | Nov 14 2021 16:14 utc | 26
It seems that COVID-19 acts in very straightforward way, weaker immune system gives higher resistance and smaller symptoms and vice versa. Some pathogens “highjack” immune system to produce reverse results, thus children gets more dangerous cases than adults, and “healthier” adults have more dangerous course of the disease.
One consequence can be that intuitively healthy living helps (unlike for those “reverse” pathogens), so measures to decrease infections that prevent healthy activities like strolling may backfire.
The other aspect is the “healthy immune system” is not 100% reliable, so vaccine-acquired immunity is not 100% reliable. Ideally, 100% vaccination rate could increase the percentage of non-susceptible people from 80% to, say, 95%, with adverse reactions being many times less frequent that avoided lethal or otherwise severe infections. One problem is that the statistics for the realistically ideal cases are not 100% reliable, and when you collect and slice data in different ways you get different results. One can correct raw data in many ways, some subtly wrong, some obviously wrong…

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 14 2021 16:43 utc | 27

Something written in 1981 to pay attention to in 2021 for a minute or so:
“In the future it will be about finding a way to reduce the population. We will start with the old, because as soon as he is over 60-65 years of age, man lives longer than he produces and costs society dearly. Then the weak and then the useless who do nothing for society because there will be more and more of them, and especially finally the stupid ones.”
“Euthanasia targeting these groups; euthanasia will have to be an essential instrument of our future societies, in all cases. Of course, we cannot execute people or set up camps. We will get rid of it by making them believe it is for their own good. Too large a population, and for the most part unnecessary, is something economically too expensive.”
“Socially, it is also much better for the human machine to come to a screeching halt rather than gradually deteriorating. We won’t be able to give intelligence tests to millions and millions of people, you can imagine!”
“We will find something or cause it, a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the big, it doesn’t matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated.”
“We will have taken care to have planned the treatment, a treatment that will be the solution. The selection of idiots will thus be done by themselves: they will go to the slaughterhouse on their own. “
“The future of life” – Jacques Attali, 1981, interview with Michel Salomon.
I read that the bad alchemists are working on genetically modified vegetables to deliver your daily dose of spike proteins in that are so necessary to defeat Corona-19.No wonder B.Gates buys agricultural surface.

Posted by: jonas | Nov 14 2021 16:51 utc | 28

Covid19 news from India
The covid cases have stabilised around 12-13000 per day for whole of country with Kerala state still having around half of total daily cases. The daily jabs are around 5 million and there does not appear to be any further wave unless the govt goes ahead with indiscriminate jabbing even in places where there is no/less no of cases. All most all activities are open including travel, leisure and entertainment.
Now a hypothesis why we donot have a covid wave : may be the overall jabbed % is still around 28-30 and is diffused. People have already been exposed to virus and have got immunity or a good % of people are naturally immune to this virus. Unless this equilibrium is disturbed by indiscriminate jabbing the same state may continue. This is purely my conjuncture and everybody is free to agree/disagree or agree to disagree.
R M Rao

Posted by: R M Rao | Nov 14 2021 17:00 utc | 29

BM @ 28
All of your comment is largely correct. However.
Early on the Chinese established that survivors of SARS-Covid1 were fully immune to covid2. That would be immunity from 2003 lasting until 2020. All the doctors I read keep repeating the durable and robust immunity line for natural infections. Coronaviruses and rhinoviruses do continue to give us all colds even if we have been infected before. Partly they can do that because they are always mutating. Moreso they can do that because there are just a lot of them. No one ever knows which rhino- or corona- got them. Many people will get an influenza virus and call it a cold. There are about 200 such viruses always circulating. Having been exposed to dozens over a lifetime gives some cross-reactive immunity, it will be tested.
Viral load is a real factor. Those who live with or share a bed with a corona patient may be assumed to have had a full load of exposure. In those cases the 80/20 ratio still applies
There are large numbers of breakthrough infections for the vaccinated. Repeat natural infections are not documented.
Viral shedding from the infected peaks on day five and is largely over by day seven. The most fearful agree that it is all over by day 14 (end quarantine). It has been two years. If this virus has an R above 1.15 everyone on the planet has been infected at least once. All have been exposed many times. My feeling (yes, just a feeling) is that the R is likely 1.2 or 1.3 and everyone had been infected before a single vaccine was used. CDC is still saying R of 2 except when they claim 2.5. Were this thing that virulent we were all infected by March or April of 2020.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 14 2021 17:11 utc | 30

gottlieb 25
Let’s pray Aussies band together. I have my doubts any revolt will be successful. The ‘soldiers’ doing the enforcing are pitiless militants and will not hesitate to kill rioters. Perhaps that would be a catalyst for unity. I believe it will come to that.
The machine is not going to give in on this no matter what evidence to the contrary is presented.
Many in my family have had the vaccine and are regretting their decision.
This talk of starving and imprisoning the unvaxed is not gaining traction with anyone I know. Most of my vaxed friends think it is ‘creepy and evil’ and many are unwilling to take a booster.
This strong-arming may be just what is needed to expose their disgusting agenda. I also think there will be bloodshed.
The media wants us to think the rest of society favours apartheid.
They don’t. I am not saying there is not that faction but they are a very small minority that the powers focus our attention on for their fear mongering.
Chomsky has lost his mind and should be put out to pasture but they will use him as a poster boy no matter it destroys his image as the greatest living intellectual.They couldn’t stand him for his entire career now he’s the word. Sad.

Posted by: ld | Nov 14 2021 17:23 utc | 31

Hodaydah has been liberated by andarallah and blockade enforcement isnt possible anymore

Posted by: Poshpotdllr | Nov 14 2021 17:23 utc | 32

@ Platero 21
Oldhippie wrote @4:

By simple arithmetic there should be no naive population for the virus to infect. Yet the pandemic continues to find hosts. How can that be?

My second paragraph was how a virus can continue circulating in a population. I added extra @16. In short: No population is infected all at once. During the course of transmission through a population, a virus may die out, mutate, go dormant in the host, have an animal reservoir, get assimilated into the host, or persist in the environment (added the lasted one). This could continue indefinitely in cycles.

Posted by: Justin | Nov 14 2021 17:24 utc | 33

@ Platero 21
And those are assuming perfect immunity and health which doesn’t exist in a population. There are always the old, young, and infirm.

Posted by: Justin | Nov 14 2021 17:27 utc | 34

thanks b….
@ snake and bemildred – i see b has posted an article -Why Marib’s liberation will break the Saudis and shake West Asia -i haven’t read it yet, but that is yemen coverage.. right??
@ all… clearly folks want to talk covid and all related… i really believe b is better off making a permanent link for those who want to talk about covid on a separate covid thread… otherwise it takes over these open threads and is all some of the regular posters seem to want to talk about…

Posted by: james | Nov 14 2021 17:32 utc | 35

Chomsky was the single greatest influence on my academic career. I went from linguistics student to mass media and political science after one lecture.
He exploded all notions I had about power and the world.

Posted by: ld | Nov 14 2021 17:34 utc | 36

Piotr Berman @ 28
Sterilizing vaccines give 100% immunity. That is basically all vaccines except for covid vaccines. Leaky vaccines drive mutations.
It is ridiculous and ahistorical to claim such high rates of vaccination are necessary. When the WHO eradicated polio many countries told them “We don’t have a polio problem. If we do this we are doing this for you.” WHO could truthfully respond they were also bringing clean water and polio would follow. But many countries were half-hearted and vax rates were not high. With an effective vax the rates do not need to be high. It is not much effort to do the numbers. Policy makers are entirely immune to arithmetic.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 14 2021 17:39 utc | 37

=> Down South | Nov 14 2021 14:35 utc | 9
Noam Chomsky, a real ethnic cleanser:
Noam Chomsky on Vaccine Mandates
(At 8 minutes in.)
https://youtu.be/Cc_neyVp-rI

Posted by: blues | Nov 14 2021 17:42 utc | 38

@ snake and bemildred – i see b has posted an article -Why Marib’s liberation will break the Saudis and shake West Asia -i haven’t read it yet, but that is yemen coverage.. right??
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Posted by: james | Nov 14 2021 17:32 utc | 36
Yes, the part with the oil as I understand it. The Houthis have been working on Maarib for some months now.
Most of the information coming out is one side or another’s propaganda, so I try not to spend too much time on details, but it’s clear now the Houthis have made some big gains.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 14 2021 17:42 utc | 39

excerpt from the link b provided that i mention @ 36…
“At the other end of the Arabian peninsula, Ansarallah will also be controlling the strait of Bab al Mandab which leads directly to the straits of Suez. This gives them geopolitical and geoeconomic clout over Egypt, historically the ‘mother’ of the Arab world, and a country which itself has launched a failed war against Yemen.
Ansarallah controlling access to the Suez Canal will be a nightmare for the Israelis – Tel Aviv and Zionism are the mortal enemy of the Houthis, and no ship heading for Israel will be allowed to cross this strait.
China and Iran will be big winners in the ensuing geopolitical shuffle. Iran will gain its first diehard ally in the Arabian Peninsula – one that has oil, produces its own weapons, and can defend itself without costing Tehran money, manpower or resources.”
i never thought of that and had to look at the map again..

Posted by: james | Nov 14 2021 17:45 utc | 40

@ 40 bemildred… yes… we have been following this for many years.. i am happy to see the houthis gaining any upper hand in all of this… it is generally off the news and i rarely read any coverage of what is going on in yemen, so i am always curious given the coverage from the past… i wish these people well and the foreign invaders can rot in hell..

Posted by: james | Nov 14 2021 17:47 utc | 41

james @36 – re covid discussion…. The reason people want to talk about it is because talking about it civilly and rationally is prohibited in so many forums. It is THE issue of our time because of how the response to it (honest or not) has radically changed the whole of western society apparently in service to the Billionaire Class that so wants to be Lords of the Universe.
We know ‘they’ have been wet-dreaming and gaming this scenario for years. The project to inject the population with irrational fear has been largely successful. The future is here and it is surely dystopic.
cheers.

Posted by: gottlieb | Nov 14 2021 17:51 utc | 42

This video explains why you need to get vaccinated in very simple terms, using basic high school biology:
Doctor Reacts to Aaron Rodgers Vaccine Controversy – The Basics of Immune Response
A must watch for those proposing alternative medicine here in this forum.

Posted by: vk | Nov 14 2021 17:51 utc | 43

I wonder why the Barflies haven’t manifested about this yet?
Michael Flynn tonight: “If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God, and one religion under God.”
It’s not like this blog isn’t infested by closeted Christian fundamentalists or anything like that…

Posted by: vk | Nov 14 2021 17:52 utc | 44

I can’t access the Marib article, my browser draws a blank. Is it currently working for others?

Posted by: donten | Nov 14 2021 17:58 utc | 45

Gottlieb 25
oops. I thought you said Australia, Not Austria. lol
gray moment

Posted by: ld | Nov 14 2021 18:10 utc | 46

vk | Nov 14 2021 17:52 utc | 45
Comments like Flynn’s are self-isolating…On the order of “Me, against the world!” They are produced by ignorance.

Posted by: donten | Nov 14 2021 18:11 utc | 47

RE Flynn’s ‘official religion’ comments, it obviously shows a breathtaking ignorance of the 1st Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Yet we shouldn’t laugh off religious extremists like Flynn, Pompeo, Pence et al who’d be perfectly happy for a totalitarian theocracy. Indeed about 85% of “Americans” claim Christianity as their religion. Christianity is a religion for slaves. So it is no wonder the USA is an authoritarian corporate oligarchy marching toward a totalitarian technological state of Matrix pods called a Metaverse that worships at the altar of ‘science.’ The yearning of ol’ timey religion makes perfect sense in an equal and opposite way.

Posted by: gottlieb | Nov 14 2021 18:21 utc | 48

Sterilizing vaccines give 100% immunity. That is basically all vaccines except for covid vaccines. Leaky vaccines drive mutations.
Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 14 2021 17:39 utc | 38
I just got my second shot of shingles vaccine. The informational materials claim 90% effectiveness. It is “recombination adjuvant” vaccine, whatever it means, the only one approved. One aspect is that the is no issue of being “infected”, a large percentage is infected, myself included, but the issue is to avoid a “dangerous outbreak”. What is relevant to our discussion is that there were post-marketing studies with millions of vaccinated retired folks and reports about them, so 90% effectiveness and 6 per million dangerous related events are reliable (to some extend at least).
Personally, I think that solid science is impossible for a disease that was not around for at least few years, but in my age the “boost shot” of COVID-19 vaccine is a good idea. Given still hazy science, the decision of Austrian government seems not good, for social perspective. But that depends on the docility (or the lack of it) of Austrians. In Russia, the general population is highly skeptical to authorities, so the government applies “light hand”. The nature of skepticism in Russia is an interesting topic in itself.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 14 2021 18:23 utc | 49

Another ‘simulation’ for your dystopian future
Climate, hunger, civil unrest and spiking food prices came together at the Food Chain Reaction game in Washington DC this week. Cooperation mostly won the day.
https://www.cargill.com/story/food-chain-reaction-simulation-ends-with-global-carbon-tax

Posted by: ld | Nov 14 2021 18:27 utc | 50

I wonder why the Barflies haven’t manifested about this yet?
Michael Flynn tonight: “If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God, and one religion under God.”
Posted by: vk | Nov 14 2021 17:52 utc | 45
For myself, I have no idea what the quoted though of Michael Flynn means (e.g. what is “under God” and what is not?, vague abstractions at best), and I find checking facts about Sperm Whales and undersea cables much more informative and interesting.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 14 2021 18:32 utc | 51

Eventhough the mass media will not tell you about it, you can do a compilation on the strange surge of high level sports people suffering sudden heart attacks and deadly strokes….
https://twitter.com/Kukicat7/status/1459253795846868995
But it is that even the German newspaper Berliner Zeitung has compiled a census of the unusually high number of professional and amateur footballers who have recently collapsed on the grass after getting vaccinated….
https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/news/raetselhafte-herzerkrankungen-im-fussball-li.193554
Should not be the EMA, FDA, and WHO doing a research on the probable relation of all these deaths, inhabilites for life for sports and other jobs amongst the common people and its highly likely relation with the mandatory vaccines?
Well, if they do not move, as the ethics of their high posts would ask, may be the lawyers of some of these wealthy people will do…Just read Kun Agüero will probably sue the WHO on vaccine damage…It is just what is needed, that the at least one idol from the working masses´ favourite enterntainment takes the lead in unveiling what is going on here…
But you could even ignore the flagrant facts on the match grounds and sport press, and simply hear this former socialist minister on the worrying case of Singapur…and how it is doing…with already full vaccinated 85%…when previously has had only 100 deaths from Covid-19….
https://twitter.com/i/status/1459491149350150149
The case of Gibraltar, on verge of suspending Christmas meetings and celebrations with its 99% vaccinated population is also astonishing…and quite telling for the one not bribed by the big pharma corps involved who want to see…
https://twitter.com/Devils_Iawyer/status/1459530954360467457
Understand why the “experts” who adviced the governments during the whole pandemic and whose existence the governments denied as long as the missmanagement of the pandemic started to show evident, claim for crucifying the “unvaccinated”…Are you going to trust these people who have always lied to you on mass murdering conflitcs they pushed you to support from their well remunerated and safe posts? Are you to believe this kind of people who populate the corporations´ boards through revolving doors on that they worry in the least about you?
https://twitter.com/javiersolana/status/1459537664944873473
Finally, someone telling the truth…Bayer manager admits that “the Covid shot is not a vaccine, but gene therapy. “If they sold it as such, 95% of people would refuse to be injected”.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1458854938524725257
Dedicated to the slaves greateful for being so…
https://twitter.com/Agenda2030_/status/1459933181445038086/photo/1

Posted by: Black bread | Nov 14 2021 18:53 utc | 52

@james
This is an open thread, right? In an open thread anyone can talk about anything they want.
Maybe our host should create a thread about “things that James wants to talk about”
Would that be ok with you?

Posted by: DG | Nov 14 2021 18:54 utc | 53

I did ‘receive’ the two Pfizer shots. I’m not sure that was so smart at this point.
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Dr. Robert Malone, the architect of the mRNA platform used by the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, and organizing co-signer of a recent public declaration in defense of early treatments, promoted the presentation, tweeting, “I’ll say it again. Watch the speech from Dr. Peter McCullough. He is on fire. And he is spot on. He [sic] summary of the data are [sic] precise and detailed. Please take the time to watch that video. And get outraged.”
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I STRONGLY recommend that people scroll down to see the video of his lecture (it is 1hr, 5min, but worth every minute):
https://tinyurl.com/5xsmmrux
(Real URL is blocked here. Must think it is ‘conservative’.)

Posted by: blues | Nov 14 2021 18:54 utc | 54

Marib article works for me.

Posted by: arby | Nov 14 2021 19:07 utc | 55

It’s not like this blog isn’t infested by closeted Christian fundamentalists or anything like that…
Posted by: vk | Nov 14 2021 17:52 utc | 45
… and the odd silly SOBOK or 2 with their ‘scientific’ materialism..
ld – yeah Chomsky is showing himself to be an old humbug. A lot of people fear death.

Posted by: tucenz | Nov 14 2021 19:09 utc | 56

Old hippie at #38
“all vaccines” except for Coronovirus are sterilizing vaccines give 100% immunity.
That is a false claim. The influenza vaccines most certainly DO NOT. There are also vaccines for many bacterial infections (if memory serves, some Staphylococcus come to mind).
I spent most of my career working in university microbiology departments and I can only think of two vaccines that provide 100% immunity and those are polio and small pox.
As you probably know small pox has been universally irradicated. Polio almost so, except for a region along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. (Of course we all know that vaccination campaign failed because the CIA infiltrated the irradication program to collect blood samples in their hunt for Osama Bin laden and the local people no longer trust public health officials. If there was any justice in this world. those officials should have been indicted by the ICC many years ago)

Posted by: ToivoS | Nov 14 2021 19:18 utc | 57

@ gottlieb | Nov 14 2021 17:51 utc | 43 / DG | Nov 14 2021 18:54 utc | 54
gottlieb.. i agree…. dg – poor sense of humour on your part.. i already noted it is an open thread…
what i do find interesting though is how @ Freemon Sandlewould | Nov 14 2021 13:59 utc | 6 reflects an open hostility directly towards b which further exacerbates the dynamic or impression that some have of those who are opposed to covid vaccines and etc, as being very unfriendly or worse… now, maybe it is just a fluke and most people don’t have to shit on the host to make a point.. but that is now the case in this person… it would be better if people were free to voice there viewpoint without attacking others… and yes – i continue to believe it’s an important topic and would be better given its own special area were those who want to discuss it regaularly, can discuss it in a focused and ongoing manner…

Posted by: james | Nov 14 2021 19:23 utc | 58

@Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 14 2021 13:24 utc | 3
To your accurate list on recent news on the War on Yemen I would add…
6.- Al Qaeda has admitted having fought along the Saudi coalition agsint the Houthi resistance and yemeni people.
Well, not a secret for anybody frecuenting this blog, but now in the media…
It is a if as long as they get out with the Great Reset through mass control exerted through sanitary dictatorship, with half the population consent, they are losing any remaining reserve in openly admitting even the most criminal activity they engage into…

Posted by: Black bread | Nov 14 2021 19:26 utc | 59

@58
Well of course there are no influenza vaccines if you define vaccines in the traditional way – to cause ‘prevention’ of a disease, which was changed to ‘immunity’ in 2015, then changed again to ‘protection’ in 2020/2021… indeed the latest definition change to the word ‘vaccine’ was adopted (via a leaked/released email) to reflect ‘protection’ as the definition because “right wingers” were pointing out that the Covid jabs were not providing ‘immunity’ and did not meet the CDC’s own vaccine definition. Orwell anyone?

Posted by: gottlieb | Nov 14 2021 19:31 utc | 60

jonas | Nov 14 2021 16:51 utc | 29
Your alleged quote:
Read the entire interview from translated transcript.
I do NOT find the quote!
It does NOT appear to be in THIS interview… perhaps another??

Posted by: Doesitreallymatter | Nov 14 2021 19:36 utc | 61

Re. Marib
There is heavy fighting, but Ansar Allah are steadily getting the upper hand. However, what happened on the Western Coast is curious to say the least. The Saudi Coalition withdrew southwards – 70 km. in one go!
Naturally the “experts” don’t know why. Could be the result of negotiations.
One suggestion is that after the withdrawal of the Sudanese, the Saudis are using their trained and experienced forces, ie the best troops, to defend Marib. The others don’t meet the grade. Then there are the missiles…..
Althought the Houthis should end up holding all the west coast of Yemen, (even Aden) the large quantity of other countries holding strategic positions, (US, UK, Djibouti was once French. China. The new planned Russian base further towards Suez, and the Emirates holding two offshore islands right on the corner, plus Israeli “influence” on Socotra etc.) we can be sure that they will all be watching each other for potential weaknesses, like a pack of hyenas.
*****
You have to hand it to the Houthis, while carrying on a major battle for Marib, they are also advancing in the west, while continuing to attack the Saudis in their southwest districts with “suicide” drones.

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 14 2021 19:46 utc | 62

gottlieb #61
Your comment does not in any way contradict what I said #58.
Your comment shows how over time the protective effect of various vaccines are evaluated. It illustrates that this ideal of “sterilizing” vaccines is very rarely attained (as I mentioned small pox has and hopefully polio can be). But for the most part vaccines do not irradicate the diseases, but, those that are approved, do attenuate symptoms in individuals and disease spread in the population.

Posted by: ToivoS | Nov 14 2021 20:03 utc | 63

@ all… clearly folks want to talk covid and all related… i really believe b is better off making a permanent link for those who want to talk about covid on a separate covid thread… otherwise it takes over these open threads and is all some of the regular posters seem to want to talk about…
Posted by: james | Nov 14 2021 17:32 utc | 36
It’s hardly any more irritating than listening to your frequently incoherent mumblings on ideas and concepts you seem barely able to pronounce, let alone comprehend, James.
Guess you’ll just have to learn to develop a level of tolerance which many of the rest of us have had to develop in relation to your mostly irrelevant and uninteresting contributions.

Posted by: T8000 | Nov 14 2021 20:16 utc | 64

Has anyone wondered why 190 countries all followed exactly the same script to treat Covid? Masks, Lockdowns, isolation, Testing and Vaccination Passports?
One guy; “The German economist, journalist, and author Ernst Wolff has revealed some facts about Schwab’s “Young Global Leaders” school that are relevant for understanding world events during the pandemic.”
The list of Alumini is impressive and somewhat surprising.
Some are listed below. (My emphasis). There are 1’300 more somewhere.

In 1992 Schwab established a parallel institution, the Global Leaders for Tomorrow school, which was re-established as Young Global Leaders in 2004. Attendees at the school must apply for admission and are then subjected to a rigorous selection process. Members of the school’s very first class in 1992 already included many who went on to become important liberal political figures, such as Angela Merkel, Nicolas Sarkozy, and Tony Blair. There are currently about 1,300 graduates of this school, and the list of alumni includes several names of those who went on to become leaders of the health institutions of their respective nations. Four of them are former and current health ministers for Germany, including Jens Spahn, who has been Federal Minister of Health since 2018. Philipp Rösler, who was Minister of Health from 2009 until 2011, was appointed the WEF’s Managing Director by Schwab in 2014.
Other notable names on the school’s roster are Jacinda Ardern, the Prime Minister of New Zealand whose stringent lockdown measures have been praised by global health authorities; Emmanuel Macron, the President of France; Sebastian Kurz, who was until recently the Chancellor of Austria; Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary; Jean-Claude Juncker, former Prime Minister of Luxembourg and President of the European Commission; and Annalena Baerbock, the leader of the German Greens who was the party’s first candidate for Chancellor in this year’s federal election, and who is still in the running to be Merkel’s successor. We also find California Governor Gavin Newsom on the list, who was selected for the class of 2005, as well as former presidential candidate and current US Secretary of Transportation Peter Buttigieg, who is a very recent alumnus, having been selected for the class of 2019. All of these politicians who were in office during the past two years have favored harsh responses to the COVID-19 pandemic, and which also happened to considerably increase their respective governments’ power.

Included should be Bezos and Gates, Branson and Chelsea Clinton as they are also mentioned as part of Schwabs acquired assets.
This is part of the financial side of the “GreasyReset”. Covid is also a factor.
https://rairfoundation.com/exposed-klaus-schwabs-school-for-covid-dictators-plan-for-great-reset-videos/
****
Could explain a lot : They all went to the same school….WEF
*****
There is a back-up group, bigger than the above, which is used to cement influence with the “leaders of tomorrow”.

In 2012, Schwab and the WEF founded yet another institution, the “Global Shapers Community,” which brings together those identified by them as having leadership potential from around the world who are under 30. Approximately 10,000 participants have passed through this program to date, and they regularly hold meetings in 400 cities. Wolff believes that it is yet another proving ground where future political leaders are being selected, vetted, and groomed before being positioned in the world’s political apparatus.

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 14 2021 20:22 utc | 65

Posted by: Black bread | Nov 14 2021 19:26 utc | 60
Al Qaeda: Yes, it is interesting, I didn’t know they were admitting it. They’ve been on the maps there for years.
@james & COVID: seems to be a polarizing issue. Since is having big effect on people’s lives, regardless of “objective” danger, this is no surprise. Very badly handled in the West, which exposes them to the claims of ill intent. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
I bet myself the gun thread was going to hit 500, and I see it is there now. COVID can do that too. It is funny the things that bring people out and the things that don’t.
I have a deep disinclination to engagement with the health care system here, but I may have to suck it up somewhere in here if things don’t lighten up.
@james & Yemen: Yes if you look at a map and consider global trade flows, it is easy to see what all the greedy and ambitions are getting bases in Djibouti and fooling around there. I hear the Sauds, UAE, US, and Israel have all been messing around in Socotra. Ethiopia and the Horn of Africa looks to be one of the next big geopolitical footballs. Lucky them.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 14 2021 20:24 utc | 66

james #36
It does seem appropriate for those of us who think about covid to use the open thread express our views. I like your contributions in general and really appreciate a good discussion of Marxist-Leninist principles that you clearly articulate. In my youth I spent some time on that topic but after 40 working in public health issues I also have some insights into this covid thing that has descended on us. It seems like a very appropriate topic for one of b’s open threads.

Posted by: ToivoS | Nov 14 2021 20:36 utc | 67

@ 68 toivos – thanks!

Posted by: james | Nov 14 2021 20:42 utc | 68

snake #1
Yemen news.
The city of Marib is the only precinct not liberated by the Ansarallah (Houthi)patriotic fighters. There may be a negotiated withdrawal of the Saudis and their puppets but my guess is that the Saudis will insist on carnage to save the face of Bone Sawman.
@Geroman reports fierce battles at the foot of the southern range.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 14 2021 20:47 utc | 69

Aaron Maté reports:
…On March 18, 2019, amid a battle with Islamic State fighters, the US Air Force bombed a crowd of civilians taking shelter near the town of Baghuz, Syria, killing a reported 70 people. The attacks occurred within a 5-minute span: an initial strike, and then another with heavier bombs as survivors fled. The Times’ Dave Philipps and Eric Schmitt report:
“Without warning, an American F-15E attack jet… dropped a 500-pound bomb on the crowd, swallowing it in a shuddering blast. As the smoke cleared, a few people stumbled away in search of cover. Then a jet tracking them dropped one 2,000-pound bomb, then another, killing most of the survivors.”
US military personnel in Qatar watched the attack in real time via a surveillance drone at the scene. The high-definition footage showed that only two or three armed men were near the crowd, and were not engaging in any kind of combat activity that would have justified a defensive military strike.
“‘Who dropped that?’ a confused analyst typed on a secure chat system being used by those monitoring the drone, two people who reviewed the chat log recalled. Another responded, ‘We just dropped on 50 women and children.’ An initial battle damage assessment quickly found that the number of dead was actually about 70.
Instead of accountability, “at nearly every step, the military made moves that concealed the catastrophic strike,” Philipps and Schmitt write. The site of the bombing was bulldozed; the unit that conducted the strike vindicated itself; key evidence was buried; military logs were altered; and investigations were stalled and subverted. Although the Pentagon’s independent inspector general managed to launch a probe, “the report containing its findings was stalled and stripped of any mention of the strike.”
The bombing was called in by a classified special operations unit, Task Force 9, which led US ground operations in Syria. Two months after the March 2019 massacre, the task force completed a civilian casualty report on the strike that claimed that only four civilians were killed. It also determined that the strike was lawfully conducted in self-defense…
https://mate.substack.com/p/syrias-my-lai-us-massacred-70-civilians

Posted by: suzan | Nov 14 2021 21:10 utc | 70

Posted by: james | Nov 14 2021 20:42 utc | 69
My suggestion james, if you find thevsubjects discussed here so irritating, would be for you to establish your own blog and that way you could ensure that you and you alone dictate the subject matters allowed to be discussed there.
I would suggest giving it a catchy name, one that truly captures your unique style.
Something like “FreeForm Inane Mumblings” might do the trick…..

Posted by: T8000 | Nov 14 2021 21:12 utc | 71

Posted by: james | Nov 14 2021 20:42 utc | 69
My suggestion james, if you find thevsubjects discussed here so irritating, would be for you to establish your own blog and that way you could ensure that you and you alone dictate the subject matters allowed to be discussed there.
I would suggest giving it a catchy name, one that truly captures your unique style.
Something like “FreeForm Inane Mumblings” might do the trick…..

Posted by: T8000 | Nov 14 2021 21:12 utc | 72

BM #26
Thank you for that post. Andrographis is a powerfully bitter herb and may be unpalatable for some. Certainly more bitter than Wormwood. It should definitely be taken with food if in capsules but some will throw up.
It is easy to obtain seed and grow where climate permits. Chewing the leaf from time to time is a good approach.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 14 2021 21:20 utc | 73

62,you are right in posing the question.
The quote is absent in the available editions if one can find one.Has been debunked in 2018 by french journal Libération factchecker CheckNews as not occurring in the book although frequently quoted in extreme-right conspirationist sites.But then those sites oppose by stating it was in the original edition of 1981 and left out in later editions.The 1981 edition cannot be found.
Here is the english translation of the whole interview.I found the quote but not the last chapter.Anyways read all of it and you understand he might very well have stated that as well.Jack Attali is the guy who made Macron,he was counsellor to Mitterand,friend to Sarkozy,mentor to Hollande and Macron.He is a notorious world government promoter and whenever he wishes he has airtime just like BHL.
https://ataltarte.wordpress.com/2021/05/12/full-interview-between-jacques-attali-and-michel-salomon-from-the-future-of-life-editions-seghers-1981/
A French lady on her blog wrote an interesting piece on Attali.
https://www.margueriterothe.com/2021/04/essai-l-avenir-de-la-vie-de-michel-salomon-avec-des-pages-scannees-de-l-edition-originale-comportant-l-entretien-avec-jacques-attali
To me he is a psychopath .
Interestingly in a weekly radioshow on France Culture just this morning media economist Daniel Cohen pleaded for a world government to solve climat and economy crisis.Approved by others at the table as a logical solution.

Posted by: jonas | Nov 14 2021 21:22 utc | 74

I am vaccinated; talked to my MD, got the shot. My choice, my problem.
But when the government imposes new COVID measures – are we willing to give the government those powers just like that? Are these powers limited in time and place or is this “forever”?
And if the government today can block a non-vaccinated person to enter a restaurant – could government tomorrow use the same laws to block a woman from entering an ice cream shop because she is fat?
In a democracy we ought to be able to peacefully discuss this and come up with something reasonable.

Posted by: Passerby | Nov 14 2021 21:54 utc | 75

Posted by: james | Nov 14 2021 17:45 utc | 41

Ansarallah controlling access to the Suez Canal will be a nightmare for the Israelis – Tel Aviv and Zionism are the mortal enemy of the Houthis, and no ship heading for Israel will be allowed to cross this strait.

Are you suggesting Ansarallah would blockade Israel out of the blue just by virtue of being enemies? After a near decade of being on the receiving end of a brutal war, economic strangulation and embargo, I doubt anyone would have the heart, let alone the means, to provoke a war against a major Western power like Israel.
I have a different take on this conflict. If the aggressor nations were to defeat the Yemeni defense, the resulting state collapse and chaos could be conducive to a new cluster of piracy similar to what was observed in Somalia. In turn, this piracy could be a real threat to Chinese, Iranian and many other nations’ shipping.
Piracy as a geopolitical tool could very well make a comeback.

Posted by: robin | Nov 14 2021 22:16 utc | 76

Thank you Old Hippie at 4 and onward:- it being Sunday my line for links is a long one here, similar to the containership backlog, so I haven’t yet read any,nor the Nature article you give us. But I’d suggest another answer to the facts you present besides yours as to blaming the vaccines. My answer is that our resistance to covid has a lot to do with how we have made use of Pharma during our lives up to now, and my own case can be answered in one word — seldom. I don’t even take aspirins much, though that would be my first opt should anything off the food spectrum necessitate.
My family also has followed a different course. But unlike yours, they have always thought I was beyond the pale, and long ago decided to love me in spite of my shortcomings. That’s the answer really, to most things.
I will enjoy the links when the internet longshoremen get their trucks outa the way.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 14 2021 22:23 utc | 77

I finally get to see my new PCP in 10 days and will politely demand a test for covid antibodies, although I’m more concerned about a slowly growing red patch of skin on my chest. IMO, Biden and individual company vaccination mandates will be determined to be unconstitutional. Currently, all pro sports mandate vaccines yet each week several players get infected, which is “announced” via the news ticker stream thus providing proof to the millions watching that getting vaccinated doesn’t prevent contracting covid, thus making the mandate 100% useless medically–meaning it only has a political use.
Putin and Zakharova giving the West its due, “Migration crises were created by Western countries themselves – Putin”, “After its role in Iraq War, Britain has no right to lecture others on refugees”–Zakharova. And the extraordinarily rare admission of truth by the NY Times about just one of far too many brazen Outlaw US Empire War Crimes really seals the deal about just who and what is responsible for the global “migrant” and refugee crises with the Outlaw US Empire/NATO as the only names on the list. The words uttered by Liz Truss, supposedly a UK “chief diplomat,” in the second item are enough to make one gag, which prompted an absolutely proper response from Zakharova:
“Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova dismissed Truss’ message, saying it omitted the ‘carefully crafted’ NATO invasion of Iraq in 2003. Britain contributed thousands of troops to the operation, ‘helping the US occupy this nation, kill its citizens and plunder its mineral riches,’ she wrote on social media.
“’Britain has a clear historic responsibility for everything that happened since then in the region, including the deaths of Iraqis, the destruction of Iraq’s statehood, endless streams of refugees, the emergence of [the terrorist group] ISIS, humanitarian disasters in that part of the world.'” [My Emphasis]
And she could have listed much more as we all know.
In light of current events, I urge barflies to read Escobar’s latest, “New Great Game in the Caucasus and Central Asia”, as it further complicates the current context and thus helps fill in the Big Picture.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 14 2021 22:54 utc | 78

Posted by: vk | Nov 14 2021 15:45 utc | 17
What were the 4 links to Wikileaks supposed to show? Each of them just took me straight to their main publications page…

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 14 2021 23:03 utc | 79

Anti-vaxx retards have chosen their fate. Their life is forfeit as far as I am concerned. Just as is the life of any selfish libertarian, or pro-capitalist scum. And obviously of pretty much any billionaire left around on this planet. Thankfully, this century will experience a massive culling of this species, which is in dire need of downsizing. If mankind is to survive, a common and shared basic level of solidarity is to be expected from everyone; the sociopaths will have to be dealt with and wiped out.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Nov 14 2021 23:03 utc | 80

It’s getting rid of human capitalist scum who lack social conscience.
Posted by: Prof | Nov 14 2021 14:15 utc | 7
Simply having to fill out the form certifying “Aryan” ancestry in order to get a government job after April 1933 tightened the knot tying state supervision and individual well-being together. It was a matter of signing up.
Boycott Saturday on Day 61 of the Third Reich served as a crucial step toward the sterilization laws promulgated on July 14, Day 166.

Posted by: FiveGunsWest | Nov 14 2021 23:07 utc | 81

“Seeds of Death”
I just re watched this doc on GMO from 2012
I highly recommend it.
https://s09.eplayvid.com/vids/seeds_of_death_unveiling_the_lies_of_gmos_2012.mp4

Posted by: ld | Nov 14 2021 23:11 utc | 82

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Nov 14 2021 23:03 utc | 81
Unfortunately to your desires, it is the billionaire class and their aristocratic heirs who are best positioned to survive the coming climate and human encroachment derived crises and the rest of us, particularly the global south, are at the mercy of (or under the protection of) whatever solidarity mechanisms we can put in place NOW. Bezos et. al. will simply fly to their islands or Mars once the science of synthetic proteins and other nutrients and space travel are sorted out.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 14 2021 23:13 utc | 83

There was also an attempt to start protests in Cuba on October 11. But nothing happened.
b, you may need to actively moderate the comment sections on your posts about this, if those even prove necessary. Last time some clearly malicious actors jumped on here supporting the “protests.” Yes, even here.

Posted by: Cesare | Nov 14 2021 23:14 utc | 84

Posted by: ld | Nov 14 2021 23:11 utc | 83
Your link took me to a 404 Bad Request error…

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 14 2021 23:14 utc | 85

Chomsky is a linguist, politically he’s always been a stooge, of the refined variety of course.

Posted by: Misotheist | Nov 14 2021 23:18 utc | 86

Sorry, the link I provided doesn’t work and the movie is no longer available except for free streaming sites.
apologies.

Posted by: ld | Nov 14 2021 23:19 utc | 87

Overlooked by many was the APEC Summit last Friday, the 12th. Putin’s contribution was to continue to stress the absolute necessity of genuine Multilateralism and along with Xi to further press the following:
“The pandemic has revealed that it is of paramount importance for all nations to have free and non-discriminatory access to vitally important goods, services, resources and technology.
“Russia opposes protectionism in the global economy and trade and advocates an end to the use of unilateral and politically motivated restrictions for the sake of fighting for markets and removing competitors. We firmly believe that maintaining and enhancing the multilateral trade system, with the World Trade Organisation at its core, is in the interests of the entire international community.” [My Emphasis]
All the above bolded issues and more will be discussed at the upcoming WTO Ministerial at Geneva in 2 weeks where the West is outnumbered by the Eurasian Bloc and the NAM. So, look for even more hysteria from the EU and Outlaw US Empire as we get closer to December.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 14 2021 23:22 utc | 88

Tom Collins
I found it on youtube
Seeds of Death
Very credible documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biQU9RnnGoM

Posted by: ld | Nov 14 2021 23:24 utc | 89

Re Truly Clueless Joe @81
Your charming message: “Anti-vaxx retards have chosen their fate. Their life is forfeit as far as I am concerned. Just as is the life of any selfish libertarian, or pro-capitalist scum. And obviously of pretty much any billionaire left around on this planet. Thankfully, this century will experience a massive culling of this species, which is in dire need of downsizing. ”
One of the ironies of the totalitarian vax mandates appears now to be that those leftwing true-believers who revel in their virtue signaling about their double and triple vaccinations, and who call for the unvaxed to not only be discriminated against but to be eliminated from society, those “woke” people — such as yourself — are the ones who will wind up filling the hospitals with unexpected heart attacks, strokes, neuropathies, myocarditis, autoimmune diseases and dysfunctional immune systems. In other words, the ‘mass culling” you wish for will be taking place among those foolish and unfortunate enough to believe the propaganda of the headline “news”. https://doctors4covidethics.org/the-pfizer-mrna-vaccine-pharmacokinetics-and-toxicity/

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 14 2021 23:27 utc | 90

Uncle Tungsten
Further to our previous conversations on Duboisia hopwoodii [vejeri or pituri]. Did you notice the recent episode of ABC Landline?
https://iview.abc.net.au/video/RF2004Q040S00
Now Duboisia is an ‘industry’ with an export market to India. It looks like big Pharma is vertically integrating and taking over.
Apparently an extract is useful for travel sickness.
My hardcover book ‘The Toxic Plants of Western Australia’ outlines 3 experiments on sheep eg,
“No 1, Experimental sheep, accordingly, were drenched with watery extract from 3 oz. died within 10 minutes.”

Posted by: Paul | Nov 14 2021 23:37 utc | 91

From your Andrew Sullivan link:
“The MSM and far left viewed him (Rittenhouse) as a villain…”
There’s a left in Amerikastan, is there? Far or otherwise? You could have fooled me.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 14 2021 23:45 utc | 92

Anti-vaxx retards have chosen their fate. Their life is forfeit as far as I am concerned. Just as is the life of any selfish libertarian, or pro-capitalist scum. And obviously of pretty much any billionaire left around on this planet
Posted by: Clueless Joe | Nov 14 2021 23:03 utc | 81
Clearly the Nazis haven’t yet given up on this thread.
It’s ironic old Clueless there should lump anti-vaxed in with the Billionaires, since it is should be clear be now to any but the most dullwitted of humans that it is the Billionaires behind the push for Vax mandates.
He certainly chose well when deciding to call himself “Clueless”
Personally I suspect that the alleged Attali theory of self selection as quoted by Jonas @29

“We will find something or cause it, a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the big, it doesn’t matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated.”
“We will have taken care to have planned the treatment, a treatment that will be the solution. The selection of idiots will thus be done by themselves: they will go to the slaughterhouse on their own. “
“The future of life” – Jacques Attali, 1981, interview with Michel Salomon.
Posted by: jonas | Nov 14 2021 16:51 utc | 29

is going to be a lot closer to the truth than the psychopathic rambling of old Mr Clueless.

Posted by: YourMom | Nov 14 2021 23:47 utc | 93

Putin is playing a very dangerous game;
the Belarusian people are very restless and are sick of Lukashenko
the West is out to expand NATO further east
and allowing/edging Belarus on to play the ‘Erdogan refugee game’
The above factors might end up costing Russia much more geopolitical influence in Belarus, which has ENORMOUS strategic importance in countering any threat from NATO.
The CIA sponsored “colour revolution” in Ukraine was a gigantic embarrassment for Russia’s intelligence services GRU and SVR who either didn’t see it coming or were completely impotent to stop it.
Putin is risking the very same with Belarus.

Posted by: Nick | Nov 14 2021 23:52 utc | 94

Oldhippie #22
Tdetect partnered with Microsoft
https://golden.com/wiki/Adaptive_Biotechnologies-GE8DA49

Posted by: Gulo | Nov 14 2021 23:53 utc | 95

on all the “derpa derp unvaxxxxed people in camps plz” nonsense: they’ve only just started letting kids get the shots. i guess we should have a camp for wee tykes only? a “dachau day care”? and when the “immunity” wears off – get a booster or get in the ovens? jesus christ westerners and their pussified violence fantasies. it’s like an entire culture of LARPers with daddy issues.
speaking of which: “kenosha erik kartman”, i’m not sure what’s worse: facing jail time when you’re an apple cheeked little fatty or having andrew sullivan come to your defense. both involve sodomy in a way, so…
just more “that guy who just blew an unarmed guy’s brains out totes had a right to self defense, y’all!!!” i guess these dipshits would be 100% okay if john wilkes booth capped a few asses in the crowd chasing him after he sprayed lincoln’s brains all over a theater. and of course the fact that (most of) the MSM didn’t mention the “race” of the guys shot is such a Smoking Gun! i actually expected them to play up rosenbaum’s possible hebrew roots (“oh shit now it’s a hate crime!”), but maybe he was just from some semitically named german stock. for the record, even those establishment outlets had a few “here’s what we know about the vicitims” articles here and there.
greenwald’s twatter feed is full of idiots proclaiming “i didn’t know the guys shot were white! that changes…something i’m sure just give me a minute!” funny because ALL i saw outside of NYT and WaPo coverage were scum right sites blagging on about the guys being white and having criminal records. this from the same types who cheer whenever an iraq war criminal gets off with a slap on the wrist for stabbing/shooting/boiling in oil/etc an arab civilian.
tl;dr – when you shoot someone and then waddle about with the gun still in your hands you forfeit your fucking right to keep breathing. period. end of goddamn sentence. it doesn’t matter that one or more of the guys were antifatards. at all. i hate those white savior suburban twats as much as anyone but that doesn’t excuse gunning a bunch of them down because you wrote checks you can’t cash.

Posted by: the pair | Nov 15 2021 0:03 utc | 96

I see there are some hateful vaccinated comments on this blog directed at the unvaccinated. That is just fascism and you can do what you like, I, for one, am not taking the vaccine.
The unvaccinated do not pose any more or less risk to the vaccinated than other vaccinated people because, as governments and scientists told everyone right from the beginning the “vaccines” do not prevent infection. However, these excess deaths are not being caused by Covid-19.
There is an increase in death in vaccinated countries that can only be explained by the “vaccine” (really, “experimental gene therapies”) itself, and this is becoming more and more apparent. There are also more and more reports on this that are not being censored; I would conclude the decision has been taken to “manage and massage” the bad news into the public sphere.

Posted by: ADKC | Nov 15 2021 0:05 utc | 97

Utopia is a British thriller drama television series that was broadcast on Channel 4 from 15 January 2013 to 12 August 2014.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia_(British_TV_series)
It’s central plot revolves around a conspiracy to depopulate the planet by worldwide promotion of a hoax “Russian flu” pandemic.
The depopulation plan begin in earnest through the release of the “vaccine” produced by the conspirators, which is intended to prevent human procreation.
If it isn’t clear to anyone: the flu pandemic was not real and the “vaccine” was not a “vaccine” but a genetic poison set to be activated at a later date, through the addition of hidden ingredients in processed foods.
In 2020 Amazon released its own version of the series, far inferior to the original, being a US knockoff
The Amazon show was set to run over at least 2 seasons but was immediatley canceled after the whole of the 1st season was blocck-released and people began to notice the events depicted were mirroring current events at the time in a remarkably accurate fashion, certainly a lot more closely than the powers that be would like.

Posted by: YourMom | Nov 15 2021 0:10 utc | 98

Hitler’s homeland initiates total lockdown for unvaccinated. Austria has only 9 million residents and a 65% vaccination rate, but has decided to wage war on those not having been jabbed:
“‘This step was not easy to take, but it is necessary,’ Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said. ‘The risk for the unvaccinated people is much higher. Therefore, we are forced to take this difficult step to reduce the number of contacts.'” [My Emphasis]
The lie as stated above is that the lockdown is to protect the unvaccinated. If Austria is having such a big problem, then it ought to reexamine its covid treatment regime which will do a much better job of taking the pressure off hospital ICUs, which is the actual reason for the lockdown.
In a world where Western vaccines are being proven worthless and effective ones denied certification, where’s the demand for information on treatment? Where are the daily articles in Mass Media telling people how they can try to prevent and mitigate the disease instead of continual jabbering about vaccines? Where’s the big front page above the fold spread in any major newspaper–“How to Treat Covid”–I just Yandexed and Googled the quoted phrase and got zero media reports on the first page of both. Not until page two of the Google search did I get a CNN item about monoclonal antibody use, but still zero for all others.
Why the media silence?!? IMO, that silence is telling us a lot, and none of it’s any good.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 15 2021 0:11 utc | 99

Regardless of the moral take, one thing is certain: all the non-vaccinated people will achieve is accelerate the decline of the Western Civilization vis-a-vis China. That’s the concrete result.
See what’s happening and will continue to happen: the West is losing time in a bizarre struggle against its antivaxxer population while China is rolling with its “zero COVID-19” policy while on pace to achieve herd immunity in its 1.4 billion population. China will then fully reopen before anybody else, and will recover economically before anybody else (as is already happening). The West, meanwhile, will plunge into a sinusoidal cycle of recovery-recession, marked by more and more scarring to its social fabric.
When the whole thing becomes insurmountable, future generations in the West will look back at 2020-2022 and ask: “why didn’t our ancestors simply take the damn the vaccine?” It will be one of those “they shouldn’t have murdered Franz Ferdinand” moments.

Posted by: vk | Nov 15 2021 0:14 utc | 100

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