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November 17, 2021
Open Thread 2021-89
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Odd that the opening of nord stream 2 is being delayed while European natural gas prices reach record levels. Posted by: Cesare | Nov 17 2021 18:30 utc | 1 Recent world events lead many people to wonder if the world is really under the control of forces we cannot see since it all seems so odd. Many scientists also believe exactly that. Through The Quantum Looking Glass or: Buckle your seatbelt Dorothy, ’cause Kansas is going bye-bye Posted by: El | Nov 17 2021 18:35 utc | 2 Port of Vancouver today — all rail access to and from cut off due to flooding. Highway access also damaged by flooding. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Nov 17 2021 18:50 utc | 3 Declassified UK Posted by: arby | Nov 17 2021 19:07 utc | 4 Bruised Northerner @3– Live for now from Ritten house trial. Video questions Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Nov 17 2021 19:16 utc | 6 Posted by: Cesare | Nov 17 2021 18:30 utc | 1 Posted by: Passer by | Nov 17 2021 19:21 utc | 7 Cesare and Passer by – This irrational behavior by EU leaders in terms of their own citizens interest has been going on for a long time. The tolerance for US demands (re the pipeline, NATO expansion, Iran, China and Russia sanctions, etc.) and lockstep behavior in too many areas seem inexplicable. Posted by: Caliman | Nov 17 2021 19:40 utc | 8 @5 Did the Asian suppliers require that their customers pay down their balance owed? Posted by: Guerrero | Nov 17 2021 19:41 utc | 9 “Restraint” is the word. Posted by: Paul | Nov 17 2021 19:58 utc | 10 My previous comments related to Biden’s upcoming democracy summit were on the week in review thread. I wasn’t expecting this article, “Kazakhstan’s ‘golden man’ has a message for America”, to be related, but it is most definetly: @ 11 karlof1 – Amongst other projects, Igor Lopatonok has also done Maidan Massacre – 2014, Ukraine on Fire – 2016, Revealing Ukraine – 2019, and The Everlasting Present – Ukraine: 30 Years if InDependence – 2021. Most definitely not a wannabe Nazi Banderite Ukrainian immigrant. Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 17 2021 20:21 utc | 13 In the Rittenhouse trial, the jurors are deliberating but the judge has yet to rule on the motion described here. Further evidence not reported there but is here says: lex talionis @13– I think it was snake who wanted information on what’s happening in Ethiopia
Ethiopia at a Crossroads: Civil War or Peaceful Settlement? Posted by: Down South | Nov 17 2021 20:46 utc | 16 Press release by the Russian FMinistry, the correspondence between Lavrov, Le Drian and Maas is published, in spite of everybody supporting the Minsk agreement -in theory- in the letter that LeDrien and Maas send to Lavrov they say: Posted by: Paco | Nov 17 2021 20:51 utc | 17 re: lex talionis | Nov 17 2021 20:21 utc | 13 Posted by: tucenz | Nov 17 2021 20:56 utc | 18 Biden is sky high on the soon-to-be implemented infrastructure fiasco in the USA. Well, here is one example of infrastructure build-up for his reference. See if American can do something similar in the Mohave Desert 🙂 Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 17 2021 21:00 utc | 19 @ karlof1 – Maybe you could entice your wife to the political film realm with the masterpiece, Z, by Costa-Gavras. He also directed Missing. Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 17 2021 21:23 utc | 20 @5 Karlof1 thank you for that. I wonder what’s up. Three Amigos in DC today too. I admit, I needed to take a break after posting that above comment. Thank you for your stream of comments today and yesterday. I really appreciate reading all of it. Valuable stuff!! Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Nov 17 2021 21:25 utc | 21 Caliman | Nov 17 2021 19:40 utc | 8 Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 17 2021 21:29 utc | 22 Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 17 2021 20:23 utc | 14 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 17 2021 21:38 utc | 23 My 22 Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 17 2021 21:41 utc | 24 lex talionis @20– El@2 – Somewhat interesting read. It seems to that they are into Hinduism and are trying to prove their beliefs in the veneer of science. Posted by: David F | Nov 17 2021 22:08 utc | 26 There is part truth in most conspiracy theories but the population reduction thing just does not make sense – why cull your slaves? Posted by: Rae | Nov 17 2021 22:31 utc | 27 Curious spin “US, Israel Mulling Short-Term Nuclear Deal With Iran to Extend Time for Talks, Reports Say” Yesterday, a poll I linked to cited the huge drug problem within the Outlaw US Empire as one of several reasons for its great loss of stature overseas. Today, we’re treated to this short note informing us that drug overdose deaths within the Empire passed the 100,000 mark during the April 2020-April 2021 period. Yet another good reason to not emigrate to this failing nation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IRyjNDVv3s Posted by: Curious | Nov 17 2021 23:03 utc | 30 As for Russia, it is in pretty strong position right now, and new rail roads are being urgently built towards Asia to meet the huge energy demand there. Posted by: JPC | Nov 17 2021 23:04 utc | 31 There was also a Brady issue in the execution of Timothy McVeigh. The Justice Department admitted they had not timely given to the defense materials required under the Brady doctrine. I thought that should have meant a repeat of at least the penalty phase of the trial, which rested on the extent of McVeigh having the guilt. But no, there was no repeat, and they went ahead quite quickly with the execution. Posted by: lysias | Nov 17 2021 23:19 utc | 32 And a high Justice Department official in the prosecution of McVeigh was none other than Merrick Garland. Posted by: lysias | Nov 17 2021 23:20 utc | 34 @Cesare, Passerby, Caliman Posted by: cirsium | Nov 17 2021 23:50 utc | 35 More on the non-imperial Empire. Pepe Escobar’s latest
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/11/17/frozen-deutschland/ Posted by: cirsium | Nov 17 2021 23:59 utc | 36 Austria rises against “health dictatorship”
Posted by: pogohere | Nov 18 2021 0:09 utc | 37 Parts of the EU and German governing structures are betraying Europeans and Germans as Pepe Escobar reports in “Frozen Deutschland”: cirsium @36– The Supply-Chain Crisis Is a Labor Crisis by Guy Platten, for the NYT I have read the Bhagavad Gita and the Upanishads, but not the Rig Veda (at least not much of it). I think some of their Sanskrit translations are suspect as well. Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Nov 18 2021 0:46 utc | 41 During the creation of bank loans, why is the customers’ collateral seized by the banks, and the customers then issued with bank debt, for when the last of the world’s collateral has been converted into debt, then the banks will announce, ‘the world is ours’! Posted by: Ric G | Nov 18 2021 0:47 utc | 42 Another example to complement my comment @ 40: Oriental Voice @19: Posted by: Donnie | Nov 18 2021 1:18 utc | 44 Interesting news from Spain – the intended leader of the latest “colour revolution” (location: Cuba; colour: white, with rose) Yunior Gaecia, arrived in Madrid on Wednesday. (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/missing-cuban-protest-leader-yunior-garcia-lands-madrid-2021-11-17/) Posted by: Hope | Nov 18 2021 1:20 utc | 45 It is hard not to deduce there is collusion in the cov coverup …no need to list the discrepencies …there are so many, each of us could have our own serious reasons to doubt the official narrative, separate from others own good reasons. The fix is in for big pharma. This is the root of all our suspicions, and evidence. Get over it. The tentacles of the top .01% reach into EVERY part of our capture culture. Posted by: James joseph | Nov 18 2021 1:45 utc | 46 @ Ric G | Nov 18 2021 0:47 utc | 42 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 18 2021 1:48 utc | 47 Forgive this poor translation. Mao spoke the guerilla must swim with the fishes of the people. I take it that means the guerilla hides inside the great schoal of citizens, going about their business. This is required to evade the superior violence capability of the entrenched….evade by not being singled out. Since they depend on digital information about you, you design to manage your digital footprint. Posted by: James joseph | Nov 18 2021 1:57 utc | 48 Cuba- Biden’s color revolution failed: follow up Posted by: migueljose | Nov 18 2021 2:08 utc | 49 Down South @16 Posted by: Cabe | Nov 18 2021 2:21 utc | 50 @18 tusenz – it can be fun to play with words. just don’t ever put a “the” before Ukraine. 😉 Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 18 2021 2:38 utc | 51 Captain Obvious: Bolivia Posted by: migueljose | Nov 18 2021 3:07 utc | 53 @53 migueljose – Luis Arce interview Posted by: ptb | Nov 18 2021 4:14 utc | 54 Re: Nord Stream: The Big Picture Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 18 2021 4:29 utc | 55 @psychohistorian | Nov 18 2021 1:48 utc | 47 Posted by: Ric G | Nov 18 2021 4:54 utc | 56 Some statistics and discussion on coronavirus:
This is a well researched sixteen minute presentation of early 2020. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 18 2021 5:57 utc | 57 “Congress gave a permission to use national parkland near the new school for a new tribal village if the Quileute have to abandon their homes near the coast. It’s a fate shared by tribes from Alaska to Florida.” – Nov. 4, 2021, CBS News, “Climate change forces Native American tribes to relocate” Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Nov 18 2021 5:59 utc | 58 https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/india-to-hold-first-22-with-russia-on-december-6/article37551994.ece Posted by: R | Nov 18 2021 6:00 utc | 59 Color revolutions a stale method. A “dramatist” by the name Yunior -not Spanish nor correct English-, a group by the name of Archipelago with the missing Gulag insinuated, and a rap -in Cuba land of fantastic music- that turns inside out the revolutionary slogan “Patria o Muerte, Venceremos” into Patria o Vida with the missing conclusion: surrender. Posted by: Paco | Nov 18 2021 6:52 utc | 60 The asia market keeps growing and all established countries and millionaires are trying to invest in the following market. because there are many benefits in these markets. Hello, and sorry for some critical comment: Lukashenko these days obviously plays with other peoples’ health & life (refugees at border to Poland). He was worth a long discussion here in the flight-affair some months ago, the general opinion going in his favor. Now, when he appears to be really cruel, all are silent? Forgive me – in case I have overseen comments regarding this topic. My true question would be: What Lukashenko thinks to achieve with this dull action? Was the outcome till today successful for him – or has he now shown his true and primitive face? Regards, Gerhard Posted by: Gerhard | Nov 18 2021 9:02 utc | 63 Jimmy Dore has a very good segment with a Matt Orfalea video compilation of the events that night Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Nov 18 2021 9:06 utc | 64 Paco | Nov 18 2021 6:52 utc | 60 Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 18 2021 9:28 utc | 66 Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 18 2021 4:29 utc | 55 Posted by: Passer by | Nov 18 2021 9:29 utc | 67 Petri Krohn #55 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 18 2021 9:30 utc | 68 The notion of the Germans beeing addicted to NS2 gas before deliveries even start is a bit premature. But I guess that happens if one beliefes ones own propaganda that Germany needs this project more than Russia. Posted by: m | Nov 18 2021 9:39 utc | 69 Cabe #50 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 18 2021 9:39 utc | 70 I am starting to suspect it was not Lukashenko who organized the migration crisis at the border – assuming it was somehow organized. It could as well have been organized by Americans in yet another attempt to stop Nord Stream 2. Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 18 2021 10:19 utc | 71 Posted by: m | Nov 18 2021 9:39 utc | 69 Posted by: Passer by | Nov 18 2021 10:24 utc | 72 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 18 2021 9:30 utc | 68 Posted by: Paco | Nov 18 2021 10:44 utc | 73 Petri Krohn | Nov 18 2021 10:19 utc | 71 Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 18 2021 10:45 utc | 74 @72 Passer by Posted by: m | Nov 18 2021 10:57 utc | 75 Posted by: m | Nov 18 2021 10:57 utc | 75 Posted by: Passer by | Nov 18 2021 11:03 utc | 76 @76 Passer by Posted by: m | Nov 18 2021 11:19 utc | 77 Posted by: m | Nov 18 2021 9:39 utc | 69 Posted by: Grishka | Nov 18 2021 11:43 utc | 78 Posted by: m | Nov 18 2021 11:19 utc | 77 Posted by: Lucci | Nov 18 2021 11:49 utc | 79 Posted by: m | Nov 18 2021 11:19 utc | 77 Posted by: Passer by | Nov 18 2021 12:02 utc | 80 @vk #40 Posted by: c1ue | Nov 18 2021 13:04 utc | 81 @m #69 Posted by: c1ue | Nov 18 2021 13:10 utc | 82 Corruption pays.
Posted by: librul | Nov 18 2021 13:13 utc | 83 @Ric G #42 Posted by: c1ue | Nov 18 2021 13:15 utc | 84 @psychohistorian #47 Posted by: c1ue | Nov 18 2021 13:18 utc | 85 By the way, many of you must be questioning yourselves: why is the owner of Evergrande torching his personal wealth to rescue his company, like if his life depended on it? Posted by: George W Oprisko | Nov 18 2021 13:25 utc | 86 Cesare | Nov 17 2021 18:30 utc | 1 Posted by: Wim | Nov 18 2021 13:30 utc | 87 Its interesting to note the BBC’s lunchtime news programme, devoted a fair bit of it to the possibly that missing Chinese tennis star Peng Shuai could be held by the Chinese authorities. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 18 2021 13:33 utc | 88 There’s a strong case for a weaker yuan: As talk pivots from decoupling to recoupling, a US-China exchange rate accord could work to mutual advantage by William Pesek, for The Asia Times
This one Rittenhouse won’t be able to protect you against, petty bourgeois. @ Posted by: c1ue | Nov 18 2021 13:18 utc | 85 @ Posted by: c1ue | Nov 18 2021 13:04 utc | 81 @76 Passer by Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 18 2021 14:02 utc | 92 @Posted by: librul | Nov 18 2021 13:13 utc | 83
On March 11, 2021 the entry was quite different Wow!:
Posted by: librul | Nov 18 2021 14:16 utc | 93 “What Lukashenko thinks to achieve with this dull action?” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 18 2021 14:17 utc | 94 Sweden has fallen:
https://www.thelocal.se/20211117/analysis-will-sweden-introduce-covid-vaccine-passes/ Posted by: Kaj Jakobsson | Nov 18 2021 14:35 utc | 95 @86 George W Oprisko Posted by: m | Nov 18 2021 14:51 utc | 96 Republicofscotland | Nov 18 2021 14:17 utc | 94 Posted by: Gerhard | Nov 18 2021 14:52 utc | 97 @ Posted by: Gerhard | Nov 18 2021 14:52 utc | 97 @ Posted by: m | Nov 18 2021 14:51 utc | 96 @Kaj Jakobsson | Nov 18 2021 14:35 utc | 95 Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 18 2021 15:36 utc | 100 |
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