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October 31, 2021

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2021-084

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U.S. 'Democracy'




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Posted by: Dogon Priest | Oct 31 2021 13:44 utc | 1

Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine proves highly safe, effective, Putin says


Official points to Latin American countires' demand for Russian air defense systems


Unashamed fake news by The Asia Times:

Japan voting public wants LDP tough on defense, China

The only source used to corroborate the headline is a poll (from an NHK article) that states most Japanese view China "unfavourably". There's an abyss of distance between seeing another country unfavourably and actually wanting your government to be on a military collision course against it.

China doesn't give a fuck about what the Japanese people think of them. As long as the Japanese suffer in silence with their bitterness and hatred, all is good on the Heavens and Earth.

Here's a poll that actually exists:

Survey shows most Japanese don't want Tokyo to take sides in China-US rivalry

In fact, if you actually read the article of the first link, the only argument the author has to infer the Japanese people wants Japan to confront China militarily (i.e. be "tougher") is the fact that the LDP continues to win elections (when, in fact, there are a lot of factors that lead to a scenario where one party wins elections every time, that go way beyond just the existence of a communist threat). And even then the author dismisses the headline, right in the sub-headline, when he wonders why the LDP leadership doesn't want to be as tough on China as the Japanese people (apparently) want them to be.

The obvious explanation is that the Japanese people doesn't want it.


More fake news on The Asia Times:

How will US respond to China’s hypersonic threat? China's hypersonic vehicle test showed it can deliver a nuclear weapon from space in violation of its 1967 Outer Space Treaty commitments

How? Simple: by doing nothing - you don't have to respond to an imaginary weapon.

Even if the weapon was real, and even if it really did violate some random treaty from 70 years ago, let's be frank: in a MAD war, the legal aspects of the whole enterprise are not a priority, to put it mildly.


To tax billionaires, democrats should keep it simple: Make death a taxable event, meaning dying would be the same as selling assets

Some American here in this blog please confirm this to me: the author of this article is joking, right?

In what manner is taxing billionaires more challenging than taxing the working class? The State doesn't seem to have any problem in erecting a giant infrastructure to deduct taxes from wages automatically from hundreds of millions of workers each month, plus forcing each of them filling a plethora of forms each year, and in contabilizing (and deducting) each of them.

Yes, billionaires make more transactions - but they're also far fewer in numbers (circa 780 in the USA, last time I checked, although with this crisis I wouldn't be surprised the number to have been doubled or even tripled - even then it would be an insignificant number of people to tax monthly, let alone yearly). I never heard the Government complaining about having to spy on too much people when it founded, and then modernized the NSA. When something needs to be done on a social level, it is done - that's the essence of History.

If billionaires deserve to be taxed only after their deaths, then the workers also deserve to be so. There's absolutely no economic basis for the author's argument.


Deciphering Biden's remarks on defending Taiwan

I'm sorry. Is the POTUS Jesus Christ now?

There's no "deciphering" of what a POTUS states. Either he committed a gaffe or he didn't, in which case the meaning is exactly what he said. To state a POTUS speaks in mysterious ways to the masses in the age of the nuclear weapons and space exploration is simply nonsense. What happened is that, when Biden committed his gaffe, The Japan Times jumped the gun and commemorated it prematurely in its home page; when his staff and the Pentagon clarified that he was wrong, the newspaper was caught red-handed. This is now the newspaper's save face.


Johnson Says French Threats 'Unjustified' as Macron Calls Fishing Row a 'Test' of UK's Credibility

Nobody is accusing France of being "authoritarian" or "totalitarian", even though Macron used an extremely aggressive and bellicose language against the UK (the whole country and people, not Boris Johnson personally), which made the Chinese warnings against Taiwan's DPP look like diplomatese.

But what can I say, double standards is the West's middle name.


Joke of the week:

Now is the time to look much more closely at The Great Reset, a fake Utopia being sold to us by charlatans

There is no "The Great Reset". This is an imaginary friend journalists created in order to sell clicks, patreons and newspapers.

Reality is much simpler: capitalism is in tatters and the capitalist class is trying to desperately sell the working classes a bunch of uncoordinated and improvised magical solutions.


Recommended read of the day:

Japan general election: the ‘new capitalism’

Wow, Fumio Kishida has already decreed the death of capitalism? And they call me the communist...

Jokes aside, there's a very interesting fact on the ascension of Kishida to power in Japan: he's a banker.

That means Kishida is the newest addition to what seems to be the new trend in the West, i.e. the nomination of bankers to govern Western Democracies (liberal democracies).

I think this trend will continue, as capitalism deteriorates further. Expect more bankers to get elected in the West (and even some key Third World countries) throughout the next decades; my guess is this will be a trademark of the historical period the Democratic Socialists (USA) call "Late Capitalism". Rome saw a growing rise of immediately powerful military leaders (magister militum) to the office of Emperor as it decayed, until it found its logical end (at least in the West) with the rise of the puppet children emperors (including the very last one, Romulus Augustulus) - it wouldn't be that weird to think something similar would happen with the capitalist civilization, as the bankers are pretty much the capitalist equivalent of the military leader in Antiquity (in terms of where true power rests). The only curiosity (which I will never know, as I will be long dead by then) is who will be the capitalist equivalent of the children puppet emperor.

Posted by: vk | Oct 31 2021 13:53 utc | 2

One particularly useful item I picked up this week from the comments here at MoA
is the video of Dr. Robert Malone who invented the mRNA technology that's now being used in the COVID-19 vaccine.

[useful hint: you can change the speed of the playback without loss of understanding]

Posted by: librul | Oct 31 2021 13:54 utc | 3

Soro's "Good Information" vs. Trump's "Truth": Partisan fact-checking in the Public Interest (What could go wrong?)

Billionaire CIA-linked “overt operative” George Soros teams up on a shady media venture with tech billionaire Reid Hoffman


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 31 2021 14:35 utc | 4

Readers should take special note that the opposition to Trump is now explicitly termed "CIA-linked".

This continues and deepens the positioning of Trump and his most ardent followers as HEROS fighting a corrupt Deep State.

A big dollop of skepticism about that positioning is certainly warranted.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 31 2021 14:45 utc | 5

...from pharma!
Business interests are emerging as winners in President Biden’s social spending and climate plan unveiled Thursday.
The White House proposal to invest in clean energy, child care, education, housing and other Democratic priorities has sparked an unprecedented lobbying blitz from corporate America and other advocates.
Across industries, business groups successfully pushed lawmakers to make significant changes to key sections of the original $3.5 trillion bill. Their lobbying efforts revolved around Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), who ultimately sided with the business community on several issues.
...The initial framework does not include Democrats’ bill to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices, a key measure that many Democratic lawmakers campaigned on in 2018 and 2020. The pharmaceutical industry went all-out to defeat the proposal, airing multiple seven-figure ad campaigns and spending nearly $263 million on lobbying through the first three quarters of 2021, a record high. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 31 2021 15:26 utc | 6

For those interested in the subject of "what's next after capitalism", there's a few posts on the 2nd page of the "how Poland tried to win, but lost the gas game" thread that are "worth it". Post numbers 125 - 127.

I asked W. Gruff to posit his alternative to capitalism. He made some great points, we had a good exchange. And that exchange, IMHO, is good enough as to merit a review by other commentators, many of whom have excellent econ and policy background.

I'd be a shame to let this good work fall into the bit-bucket. And it makes for excellent Sunday entertainment.


Posted by: Tom Pfotzerf | Oct 31 2021 15:55 utc | 7

A non-technical person can read this. It does not take years of training. Does not require massive intelligence. Only needs patience.

Note that it will make no difference if the spike protein comes from disease or from the vax.

Summary: Diminished immune response. Autoimmune disease. Cancer.

Just saw there are again large airline flight cancellations this weekend. Geo-political hoo-hah will matter less and less as there is no staffing available to accomplish anything.

Note that the courtesy car fleet at COP26 is being recharged by diesel generators. What happens when support staff is clueless or absent. And when no one gives a flying **** about the small details.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Oct 31 2021 15:56 utc | 8

@vk #3
Re: death tax
There may be fewer billionaires, but they have more politicians and lawyers in their pocket.
It is these people that matter. I wish I were being sarcastic.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2021 16:11 utc | 9

@librul #4
As I noted in the previous Open Thread: while I have personal concerns about both the long term effects of mRNA and the "fake" nucleotide in said mRNA in human bodies, the reality is also that Malone was frozen out of the riches arising from the deployment of this tech and is suing.
He therefore also has an agenda.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2021 16:13 utc | 10

@JackRabbit #6
Trump's statements are hyperbolic as usual, but they also often contain some germ of truth.
The parade of Brennan et al on cable news seems to me that his statements concerning "CIA-linked" opposition aren't 100% false.
I would read up on Ray McGovern's comments on Brennan. As I recall, McGovern had said that Brennan's rise in the CIA was due to his (and his clique's) willingness to subsume intel opinions over intel facts when it suited political master's goals. And since Brennan got to be head of the CIA, it is impossible for me to believe that said clique didn't get much more prevalent within that organization.

I also would recommend reading the unauthorized Obama biography - the links there to American intel agencies are quite stunning. Note Brennan's CIA directorship was during Obama's 2nd term...

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2021 16:18 utc | 11

@Tom Pfotzer #8
Nice to see people discussing openly.
I would still point out that this is irrelevant. Failures of American policies worldwide are not due to the ideas being all bad - they are due to naivete and arrogance:
Naivete in not taking into account where/what the people that are displaced in power are going to do (or would be displaced).
Arrogance in thinking that some American intellectual's often NGO-paid-for blathering will ever take precedence over messy reality.
MoA discussions over capitalism or post capitalism or marxism or whatever are irrelevant when the people in power today are so clearly divorced from reality to begin with, much less willing and/or able to consider outside opinions in direct conflict with their existing ones.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2021 16:23 utc | 12

@Oldhippie #9
What I have been hearing is that the airline problems are significantly due to anti-vax mandates being actively fought by large parts of their staff: pilots, baggage handlers etc. Also air traffic controllers.
It isn't clear to me how true this is, but the ongoing non-weather related issues would seem to indicate there is at least some substance.
We will know in a few months whether all these incidents are just normal stuff or are not atypical (any) mandate related posturing over-hyped by anti-Biden media.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2021 16:27 utc | 13

c1ue @Oct31 16:18 #12

Both Republicans and Democrats have Deep State/CIA connections. That is widely recognized.

Both the left and right "populist" Movements are oligarch-backed and Empire-friendly.

Coke and Pepsi.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 31 2021 16:29 utc | 14

Sometimes in the murkiness of our lives comes a light strong enough to shine through.
Start at 2:25

Posted by: dodgy bodger | Oct 31 2021 16:31 utc | 15

thanks b! lots of great articles to read.. i enjoyed the hackernews article...

@ c1ue... you are on a roll this morning!

Posted by: james | Oct 31 2021 16:37 utc | 16

@Jackrabbit #5
Soros and a tech billionaire: who gives a rat's patootie?
The reality is that there is already an enormous woke/limousine liberal/crony capitalist stooge presence in the tech industry.
Twitter's ban of Trump is only a more visible example.
What is far more interesting is that it appears Trump is pushing to have an entire news network of his own. Even the people on Rising - moderate Republican and moderate Democrat - have said that if this happens, this network would crush Fox and become enormously powerful and influential. Those 2 talked about it in concrete terms: if Rogan has 10M+ regular viewers vs. Lemon's 400K (of which 100K matter), a Trump network with a 70M rabid fanbase would be significant.
It would also be significant because the ad rates on CNN etc are high due to the perception that - while the number of viewers is tiny - their viewers are rich and influential.
Fox is a joke and should die (as should CNN and MSDNC) - hard to see how anything else could be worse but anything is possible.
But then again, this is Trump. I still don't see him as having any agenda other than self-promotion, but self-promotion in the interests of 70M+ is still better than the present self-promotion on behalf of the 1% (equals to under 3M) by CNN/MSDNC, in my personal view.
Rogan's popularity is largely because he talks to all kinds of people about all kinds of things, in detail and with nuance and an open mind. A news network can never do this, but one which actually concerns itself with what a visible fraction of Americans concerns itself with - as oppose to dictates to - would be welcome IMO.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2021 16:37 utc | 17

@JackRabbit #15
The intel agencies are highly represented in both mainstream political parties because their members are increasingly of the 1%. So it isn't clear to me that this is a conspiracy so much as a normal distribution due to demographics.
And my point was not that you are incorrect - my point is that the 1% decadently deciding the fate of 99% while being completely divorced from the same economic and societal realities...well.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2021 16:42 utc | 18

@13 c1ue

Great comment. Agree completely.

Go read the remarks I made on prior-thread 127/8. It's foundation-setting for "what actually would work, and who can actually implement it?" ... given the real-world constraints.

Hopefully you'll get involved in that conv. as we wind into it. I think you'd add a lot.


Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 31 2021 16:50 utc | 19

it is easy to get depressed reading any number of these articles too... think i will go for a walk now...

Posted by: james | Oct 31 2021 16:56 utc | 20

Interesting interview with John Stockwell on the CIA’s last days in Vietnam.

The level of corruption and skullduggery was staggering.

You can’t help but notice the parallels with Afghanistan.

Posted by: Down South | Oct 31 2021 17:05 utc | 21

From the last open thread:

Dutch PM supports Canada’s plan to establish NATO centre for climate security
Like in Canada, on Canadian soil? I thought the point of Canada being in NATO was to prevent the conquest-minded of the Europeans from claiming our soil. Someone from the military will have to explain this — I’m stuck in the 1980’s, when we were told that Canada couldn’t leave NATO for concerns of European takeover. Is this a Russia/China thing?
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 30 2021 19:28 utc | 160

Maybe you can try to persuade your compatriates to invoke Article 5? ...

Posted by: BM | Oct 31 2021 17:21 utc | 22

The level of corruption and skullduggery was staggering.
You can’t help but notice the parallels with Afghanistan.
Posted by: Down South | Oct 31 2021 17:05 utc | 22

Just look at what they have in common - the CIA - it fits.

Posted by: BM | Oct 31 2021 17:23 utc | 23

The South African Health Products Regulatory Authority has rejected Sputnik V.

Following the consultation with local and international scientific experts and after considering all the available data, including review of the dossier submitted by Lamar International (Pty) Ltd, SAHPRA resolved that:

1. The Section 21 application for Sputnik V by Lamar international Pty (Ltd) not be approved at this time. SAHPRA is concerned that use of the Sputnik V vaccine in South African, a setting of a high HIV prevalence and incidence, may increase the risk of vaccinated males acquiring HIV.

2. The rolling review of the Sputnik V vaccine will, however, remain open for submission of relevant safety data in support of the application.


Posted by: Down South | Oct 31 2021 17:26 utc | 24

Readers should take special note that the opposition to Trump is now explicitly termed "CIA-linked".
This continues and deepens the positioning of Trump and his most ardent followers as HEROES fighting a corrupt Deep State.
A big dollop of skepticism about that positioning is certainly warranted.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 31 2021 14:45 utc | 6

I'm still a Trump fan. I won a month's worth of pocket money accepting bets with ppl who "knew" he'd lose in 2016. I admit I was disappointed in some of the things he did and didn't do as POTUS. However, his mantra gave him a winning margin because he conveyed the impression that he'd been LISTENING to The People (and no POTUS is ever going to be PERFECT). If he runs again, he'll win again because US Political Candidates are so pompous and full of 1%-pleasing bullshit that they wouldn't demean/cancel themselves by admitting that The People have genuine grievances.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 31 2021 17:28 utc | 25

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 31 2021 16:29 utc | 15

Coke or Pepsi, you touched the nerve, that's freedom according to fries and gas.

When I hear the talk about freedom the imperial way a poem by the great Spanish poet Antonio Machado comes to my mind:

and they know nothing of haste
even on the festive days.
Where there is wine, they drink wine;
where there is no wine, fresh water.

Nope, fresh water we're not allowed to drink, its Pepsi or Coke.

Here a not too bad translation, but to fully translate poetry is an impossible task, hues, music and shades are lost.

Posted by: Paco | Oct 31 2021 17:49 utc | 26

@ Posted by: Down South | Oct 31 2021 17:26 utc | 25

HIV (AIDS) patients cannot take the COVID-19 vaccine, as they don't have functioning immune systems anymore. But that's true for all vaccines (including non-COVID-19 vaccines), not just the Sputnik V.

Chemotherapy patients also cannot take any vaccine, for the same principle (chemo destroys one's immune system, rendering vaccines fatal).

Posted by: vk | Oct 31 2021 17:56 utc | 27

For those interested, my Putin and Xi G-20 Speech Recap is here.

It appears the G-20 was able to produce a vague post-summit communique dealing with carbon emissions. I've yet to find the document or read what contributions Putin and Xi made to today's final session, although the linked article does mention some of Putin's contributions.

Just visited The Kremlin and got Putin's Sunday G-20 Statement. The article and I chose to highlight his closing paragraph:

"Overall, we believe that when implementing climate and environmental initiatives, it is important for the G20 to take the lead in drafting uniform, – and I emphasise – fair and, no less importantly, transparent rules for climate regulation. These rules should be based on mutually recognised verification and monitoring methods for greenhouse gas emissions and absorption." [My Emphasis]

Today's Global Times report is a mish-mash of both days of the G-20 along with COP26 which began today. Xi kept to his theme with these words from today:

"Xi also said on Sunday that environmental protection and economic development must be coordinated and climate change must be addressed while people's wellbeing is ensured, adding that major economies should strengthen cooperation in this regard."

Putting people first instead of last is now the major geopolitical theme thanks to China. And it's about time.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2021 17:56 utc | 28

Iran says Biden can issue 'executive order' if serious about returning to nuclear pact

Now that's clever. The JCPOA (as with some other treaties) was entirely an executive branch operation. The Congress was not involved. The Constitution didn't apply [advice and consent of the senate -- two-thirds of senators present concur]. So the president (Iran suggests) can just override any subsequent (sanction) laws even if he signed them. . .Let's not pretend that the US is a rules-based democracy, Iran is saying.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 31 2021 18:05 utc | 29

Climate change will be used as an excuse to put crushing taxes on Russian and Chinese products.

Also, pledging unconditional support is another way to kindle a war.

In 1939 Great Britain pledged support for Poland. As a result, an emboldened Poland defied Germany. When things got serious, British support was nowhere to be seen, with bad consequences for Poland.

In 2021 the USA pledges support for Taiwan. As a result ...

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 31 2021 18:12 utc | 30

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2021 17:56 utc | 29

Lavrov answers some questions in Rome. Some in english, the rest with subtitles.

Posted by: Paco | Oct 31 2021 18:28 utc | 31

Time come for the english part:

Posted by: Paco | Oct 31 2021 18:30 utc | 32

from wsws re Glascow, pointless steps to doing nothing, though the 1st one can't hurt, unlike the other 4, which cannot help under any circumstances:

1. immediately ceasing approvals of all new oil and gas fields and coal mines;
2. more than doubling the share of renewables in electricity to 60 percent;
3. tripling the annual investment in the power sector; retrofitting half of the existing buildings in advanced economies and one-third in developing countries;
4. doubling global battery manufacturing every two years; increasing solar installations five-fold; and
5. transitioning to 50 percent of new passenger cars powered by electricity, up from 2.5 percent in 2019.
none of these things result in decreased pollution. there's only one way, only one, to decrease pollution and that is to decrease pollution. by doing nothing. (at least these trotskyites didn't call for more nuclear energy as they routinely do, which seems to be the savior for so many. 100% of labor that results in profit could be stopped immediately and translated into leisure. 50% of all current human and machine labor could be stopped today. another 50% tomorrow. and another 50% the day after that. and from that point, assess what is necessary labor and what isn't. since there's not profit, 95% of "white collar" labor is unnecessary.)

but that's not gonna happen. so we can all look forward to a real short quick trip back to our mother, for that long rest wherein the dead coral is remade from our bones.

people don't want to hear that. they want more nuclear bullshit, more electric garbage, more "silk" roads (no silk, all asphalt and strip mines), more pipelines (cuz the richest nation in history needs cheaper gas or something), more mountain top removal for bits of crypto, and, as Biden so bluntly states, for the G20 nations, without exception, "environmentalism" is part of their capitalist competition and self-packaging. green fuel to power the ICBM's. As if China needs a bigger middle class! what's Chinese for, "Happiness is more iphones"?

enjoy the hummingbirds. they won't be around much longer.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 31 2021 18:30 utc | 33

Since you linked to Peter Lee's Climate Episode, I've just gone through Martyanov's latest out-of-his-mouth-foaming about "the whole "anthropogenic" climate change fraudulent pseudo-scientific Ponzi scheme in the West" and his view of the "overwhelming data supporting Sun-driven climate change and a minuscule role humanity plays in this process"- rambling.
Well, seems like Mr. Smoothie is a simple-minded contrarian who thinks that just because the usual (neoliberal) suspects try to co-opt climate science in order to profit from it, doesn't mean capitalist exploitation with all its environmental, social consequences isn't a serious issue.

Posted by: v | Oct 31 2021 18:45 utc | 34

as a committed anti-imperialist, I have to say that Schwartz's review of Andrew Cockburn's new book, The spoils of War, is quite good

"....Cockburn suggests that the Pentagon and the corporations that feed off it have generated the largest and most byzantine bureaucracy in human history, filled with innumerable fiefdoms far more focused on besting their internal rivals than outside enemies. Today’s generals and admirals don’t engage in unnecessary activities like trying to win wars, but instead while their days away plotting how to join the board of General Dynamics six hours after their retirement party..."

and I got a good laugh out of that very last part - one of the sure signs of the decay, decadence and wickedness in the West is all the revolving doors between government, think tanks, NGOs, the world bank, the IMF, and most importantly, the Military-Industial complex. It really does sicken one to consider it for any period of time.

but Cockburn seems to me to be more interested in the details of the Pentagon fiasco rather than than in the actual mechanisms and applications of Empire, and how it effectively rules the modern day world - and that's his privilege as a reporter and book writer. Michael Hudson, Chalmers Johnson and Noam Chomsky et. al. are far better on that.

"...Cockburn aptly quotes one Pentagon weapons designer in the 1960s telling new hires that they would be making “weapons that don’t work to meet threats that don’t exist."....."

but the fact is they have enough weapons today to kill all of humanity and prosperity, and destroy the entire Biosphere at least 600 times over.

Still his compendium of American war-mongering greed and folly is impressive

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 31 2021 18:54 utc | 35

@vk, Roger, Gruff, anyone else who has some expertise on the USSR:

If you get a chance (and there's not a paywall) I'd be very interested in your opinions on this latest piece by Yasha Levine re: The affirmative action empire that the Soviets were said to have been trying to create.

Apologies to everyone else, as I think this excerpt is going to be a bit long.

Let me quote a bit from the introduction of the book:

The Soviet Union was the world's first Affirmative Action Empire. Russia's new revolutionary government was the first of the old European multiethnic states to confront the rising tide of nationalism and respond by systematically promoting the national consciousness of its ethnic minorities and establishing for them many of the characteristic institutional forms of the nation-state. The Bolshevik strategy was to assume leadership over what now appeared to be the inevitable process of decolonization and carry it out in a manner that would preserve the territorial integrity of the old Russian empire. To that end, the Soviet state created not just a dozen large national republics, but tens of thousands of national territories scattered across the entire expanse of the Soviet Union. New national elites were trained and promoted to leadership positions in the government, schools, and industrial enterprises of these newly formed territories. In each territory, the national language was declared the official language of government. In dozens of cases, this necessitated the creation of a written language where one did not yet exist. The Soviet state financed the mass production of books, journals, newspapers, movies, operas, museums, folk music ensembles, and other cultural output in the non-Russian languages. Nothing comparable to it had been attempted before, and, with the possible exception of India, no multiethnic state has subsequently matched the scope of Soviet Affirmative Action. This book is devoted to an analysis of this novel and fascinating experiment in governing a multiethnic state.

Why did the Bolsheviks adopt this radical strategy? When they seized power in October 1917, they did not yet possess a coherent. nationalities policy. They had a powerful slogan, which they shared with Woodrow Wilson, of the right of nations to self-determination. This slogan, however, was designed to recruit ethnic support for the revolution, not to provide a model for the governing of a multiethnic state. Although Lenin always took the nationalities question seriously, the unexpected strength of nationalism as a mobilizing force during the revolution and civil war nevertheless greatly surprised and disturbed him. The Bolsheviks expected nationalism in Poland and Finland, but the numerous nationalist movements that sprang up across most ofthe former Russian empire were not expected. The strong nationalist movement in Ukraine was particularly unnerving. This direct confrontation with nationalism compelled the Bolsheviks to formulate a new nationalities policy.

This did not occur without contestation. On the one side were the nation-builders, led by Lenin and Stalin; on the other side were the internationalists, led by Georgii Piatakov and Nikolai Bukharin. At the Eighth Party Congress in March 1919, the two sides clashed over the question of the right of national self-determination. Piatakov argued that "during a sufficiently large and torturous experience in the borderlands, the slogan of the right of nations to self-determination has shown itself in practice, during the social revolution, as a slogan uniting all counterrevolutionary forces." Once the proletariat had seized power, Piatakov maintained, national self-determination became irrelevant: "It's just a diplomatic game, or worse than a game if we take it seriously." Piatakov was supported by Bukharin, who argued that the right to self-determination could only be invested in the proletariat, not in "some fictitious so-called 'national will.'"

Lenin had clashed with Piatakov and others on this issue before and during the revolution? He now answered this renewed challenge with characteristic vigor. Nationalism had united all counterrevolutionary forces, Lenin readily agreed, but it had also attracted the Bolsheviks' class allies. The Finnish bourgeoisie had successfully "deceived the working masses that the Muscovites [Moskvaly], chauvinists, Great Russians want[ed] to oppress the Finns." Arguments such as Piatakov's served to increase that fear and therefore strengthen national resistance. It was only "thanks to our acknowledgement of[the Finns'] right to self-determination, that the process of [class] differentiation was eased there." Nationalism was fueled by historic distrust: "The working masses of other nations are full of distrust [nedoverie] towards Great Russia, as a kulak and oppressor nation." Only the right to self-determination could overcome that distrust, Lenin argued, but Piatakov's policy would instead make the party the heir to Tsarist chauvinism: "Scratch any Communist and you find a Great Russian chauvinist.... He sits in many of us and we must fight him."

The congress supported Lenin and retained a qualified right of national self-determination. Of course, the majority of the former Russian empire's nationalities were forced to exercise that right within the confines of the Soviet Union. The period from 1919 to 1923, therefore, was devoted to working out what exactly non-Russian "national self-determination" could mean in the context of a unitary Soviet state. The final result was the Affirmative Action Empire: a strategy aimed at disarming nationalism by granting what were called the "forms" of nationhood. This policy was based on a diagnosis of nationalism worked out largely by Lenin and Stalin. Lenin had addressed the national question repeatedly from 1912 to 1916, when he formulated and defended the slogan of self-determination, and again from 1919 to 1922, after the alarming success of nationalist movements during the civil war.10 Stalin was the Bolsheviks' acknowledged "master of the nationalities question" : author of the standard prerevolutionary text Marxism and the Nationalities Question, Commissar of Nationalities from 1917 to 1924-, and official spokesman on the national party congresses. Lenin and Stalin were in fundamental agreement on both the logical rationale and the essential aspects of this new policy, although they came into conflict in 1922 over important issues of implementation. Their diagnosis of the nationalities problem rested on the following three premises.

The Marxist Premise

First, the point on which Piatakov and Lenin agreed, nationalism was a uniquely dangerous mobilizing ideology because it had the potential to forge an above-class alliance in pursuit of national goals. Lenin called nationalism a "bourgeois trick" but recognized that, like the hedgehog's, it was a good one. It worked because it presented legitimate social grievances in a national form. At the Twelfth Party Congress in 1923, Bukharin, by then a fervid defender of the party's nationalities policy, noted that "when we tax [the non-Russian peasantry] their discontent takes on a national form, is given a national interpretation, which is then exploited by our opponents." Ernest Gellner has parodied this argument as the "wrong-address theory" of nationalism: "Just as extreme Shi'ite Muslims hold that Archangel Gabriel made a mistake, delivering the Message to Mohammed when it was intended for Ali, so Marxists basically like to think that the spirit of history or human consciousness made a terrible boob. The wakening message was intended for classes, but by some terrible postal error was delivered to nations."

The Bolsheviks viewed nationalism, then, as a masking ideology. Masking metaphors recur again and again in their discourse about nationality. Stalin was particularly fond of them: "The national flag is sewn on only to deceive the masses, as a popular flag, a convenience for covering up [dlia prykrytiia] the counter-revolutionary plans of the national bourgeoisie." "If bourgeois circles attempt to give a national tint [natsionalnaia okraska] to [our] conflicts, then only because it is convenient to hide their battle for power behind a national costume." This interpretation of nationalism as a masking ideology helps explain why the Bolsheviks remained highly suspicious of national self expression, even after they adopted a policy explicitly designed to encourage it. For example, in justifying a wave of national repression carried out in 1933, Stalin characteristically invoked a masking metaphor: "The remnants of capitalism in the people's consciousness are much more dynamic in the sphere of nationality than in any other area. This is because they can mask themselves so well in a national costume."

This understanding of nationalism led Piatakov to support the only apparently logical response: attack nationalism as a counterrevolutionary ideology and nationality itself as a reactionary remnant of the capitalist era. Lenin and Stalin, however, drew the exact opposite conclusion. They reasoned as follows. By granting the forms of nationhood, the Soviet state could split the above-class national alliance for statehood. Class divisions, then, would naturally emerge, which would allow the Soviet government to recruit proletarian and peasant support for their socialist agenda. Lenin argued that Finnish independence had intensified, not reduced, class conflict. National self-determination would have the same consequences within the Soviet Union. Likewise, Stalin insisted it was "necessary to 'take' autonomy away from [the national bourgeoisie], having first cleansed it of its bourgeois filth and transformed it from bourgeois into Soviet autonomy." A belief gradually emerged, then, that the above-class appeal of nationalism could be disarmed by granting the forms of nationhood. This was the Marxist premise.

That’s a great and clear way of putting it. We'll see how the rest of the book turns out.

—Yasha Levine

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2021 18:58 utc | 36

Posted by: v | Oct 31 2021 18:45 utc | 35

The interesting part of the Martyanov's post is the Roskosmos video where the designer of a satellite for arctic monitoring explains the significance of the Arctic, and some technical aspects of climate and solar influence on earth. Makes a lot of sense, a lot more than the green fever crowd.

Posted by: Paco | Oct 31 2021 18:58 utc | 37

Forgive me for not having read every post on this thread as yet - I really wish to respond to the following, which Piotr Berman has posted on the previous thread ( I reproduce it in full):

Posted by: blues | Oct 30 2021 23:51 utc | 49

It is somewhat quaint that blues refers to "Pseudo-Israel". I do not know what is the intention, but there is some genuine issue here. Kingdoms of Judah and Israel were historical, unlike the preceding "united monarchy" of David and Solomon. Judah was a combination of two tribes, Benjamin being a junior partner, and Israel of ten tribes.

As a result, there were two variants of the Mosaic religion, with important distinction being the main sanctuary uniting all believers, Jerusalem Temple for Judah, Mount Gezirim for Israel (near Nablus in the West Bank). At some point, Babylonian kingdom made short work of both.

There is some agreement that inhabitants of Judah spent. a period in "Babylonian exile". But Jewish version is that the 10 tribes of Israel got lost, while Samaritan version is that they survived to form their nation without any kingdom of their own to protect them. Jewish version is that Samaritans are not of Israel blood but people resettled to the area by Babylonians or Assyrians and who adopted the local cult. In any case, Jews, descendants of Judah and Benjamin, have very, very hazy connection to Israel, contrary to the often repeated version of 3 thousand years of history in the area. Basically, by their own standards, Jews should get Jerusalem and Hebron and return everything else. And surely they are not connected, in Biblical terms, to Israel.

Of course, the narrative of Jews is ridiculous, by restoring status quo 2000 years ago, Saxons should go back to Saxony, Angles to Angle (Holstein?) and England should be given to Welch diaspora. Poland should belong to Goths and Vandals. It is hard to find Goths and Vandals, but the Welch are still around.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 31 2021 1:39 utc | 59

In order not to get too lengthy here, I'll respond in my next post.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 31 2021 19:02 utc | 38

"Climate change will be used as an excuse to put crushing taxes on Russian and Chinese products"

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 31 2021 18:12 utc | 31

Won't work with China since they already lead the world in the adoption of NEVs with Europe as the runner up. Take a guess who's the laggard?

Posted by: One Too Many | Oct 31 2021 19:12 utc | 39

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 31 2021 16:11 utc | 10 (and your other posts today)

Excellent point. Add the media (literally all of it - anything that's called "media" today from OAN to Fox to CNN to Bloomberg to Facebook - is on the side and on they payroll of the billionaire class. It's a(n often unspoken) job qualification requirement that you don't cut against the prevailing grain. The messaging is pervasive and the propaganda is omnipresent. Americans have become convinced that we're all just down on our luck billionaires waiting for our ships to come in and that meanwhile we can rely on the "trickling down" of wealth from the top. I think that's a paraphrasing of either a Twain or Tocqueville quote juxtaposed with Reagan era mythology.

And speaking of the media The Let's Go Brandon! freakout goes next level.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2021 19:12 utc | 40

@ 3, vk

The thing that characterized the puppet children was immaturity; their ignorance of reality ( the complex nature of their empire) and their incompetence at dealing with it.

The current devotees of wokism, gender fluidity and identity politics are just that. In the current configuration, the tribal powers that be pander the children for approval while pitting the against other players. When it runs out of resilience and money ( putin warned of a food crisis) it collapses.

@21 James
I deeply appreciate your thoughts. A walk in nature is wonderfully restoring. Remember that He who sits in the heavens laughs at and overthrows the schemes and wickedness of those who think they "lead". Guard your saltiness.. May you continue to express it wisely.

Posted by: Les7 | Oct 31 2021 19:24 utc | 41

@v | Oct 31 2021 18:45 utc | 35

So what are your arguments?

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 31 2021 19:26 utc | 42

@9 Savvyhippie ;)

I have read a lot of technical studies, but had not seen this..


Posted by: Les7 | Oct 31 2021 19:31 utc | 43

Galbraith on JFK documents: “No one who remembers 1963 will live to see the US government admit the full truth about Kennedy’s murder.”

That was the explicit intention behind the original classification of these materials to remain secret for 75 years (until the year 2039). Earl Warren said as much in 1964, that the materials would not be available in the lifetimes of the then general public. Concurrently, the American public were assured by the Warren Commission, reinforced repeatedly over the years by the bastions of the mainstream media, that Kennedy’s violent death had no political meaning and was just a random act. Persons who questioned the government findings have consistently been portrayed as simply unable to intellectually accept the randomness (i.e. no political meaning) of the event. The flip side of this, of course, is the classification was designed to prevent or delay a political response by the public to the true facts of a conspiracy to remove an elected and popular president.

The materials which have been declassified since the 1990s prove the coverup, at least. What remain, probably, will indicate or directly confirm a relationship between the purported assassin Oswald and one or more agencies of the US government. Oliver Stone has a new documentary which updates the case with the information declassified to date. It will appear on the Showtime network in mid-November, although finding US distribution had been challenging (Netflix, for example, rejected the film based on the opinion of unnamed “fact-checkers”, even though there is nothing in the film which cannot be sourced or verified). Expect a muted response.

Posted by: jayc | Oct 31 2021 19:33 utc | 44

First, my thanks to Piotr, and I do agree with his post in its entirety, (especially the part about the Welsh as my maternal grandfather was thoroughly from that tribe, even naming his eldest son after Lloyd George.)

It is the references to the Samaritan history that caught my attention, that having been an amateurish quest of my own recently, in order to discover more about the story of the Samaritan woman in John Chapter Four. I will note that in the feast Sundays which come between Easter and Pentecost for Orthodox Christians her story occupies the position of Mid-Feast. Not only that, but it has always intrigued me that the second of the two 'rules' for Christians on which the faith depends - to love our neighbor as we regard our own persons - relates specifically to the story of the good Samaritan. To my mind that signifies that both Christ and his disciple John knew the parallel you are pointing to in your post.

So not only Jews, but Christians as well, ought to be aware of the historical and biblical duality of their faith. While others too can keep these and other complexities to the forefront of links to the past, be they historically or spiritually based.

Thank you, Piotr!

Posted by: juliania | Oct 31 2021 19:34 utc | 45

Alright, I'll say it: LET'S GO, BRANDON! Slogan available in your neighborhood soon.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Oct 31 2021 19:39 utc | 46

Excuse me, my grandfather used the entire name - David Lloyd George. (Not only royalty get to have more than one first name.) Perhaps because his own actual first names were "Percy Tom", not "Percival Thomas".


Posted by: juliania | Oct 31 2021 19:45 utc | 47

Posted by: Paco | Oct 31 2021 18:58 utc | 38

That's the best part of his post. But there's a significant difference whether you say that the climate is associated with the sun, as the elderly gentleman rightfully says, or whether all climate is sun-driven what Martyanov wants his readers to believe. Hey, what about...umm...rain forests?
Also, putting up a straw(woman) like the Greta psyop throughout his post to denounce "Western climate research" is ridiculous beyond belief.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 31 2021 19:26 utc | 43

I don't answer to assholes like you

Posted by: v | Oct 31 2021 19:58 utc | 48

jayc @45, the one fact I cannot get my mind around is a video clip that showed the two secret service agents riding up and behind on the President's vehicle receiving the command to step down and away, long before the car would have increased speed to drive away. And one agent turning to express bewilderment at being so ordered.

2039? It's a stretch, but I'll do my best!

Posted by: juliania | Oct 31 2021 20:06 utc | 49

Posted by: Paco | Oct 31 2021 18:58 utc | 38

The Arctic sea ice is central to the Northern Hemisphere climate, the impacts of a near ice free Arctic (i.e. 1 million square miles) will be colossal for (1) Earth reflectivity, the dark sea sucks in a huge amount more energy than white sea ice (2) Retention of heat in the winter as open sea produces cloud cover (3) Rain (instead of snow) falling on the permafrost, producing water-logged condition that favour methane production (4) collapse of the Polar climate cell ... and many more. Also, a lot of rain will be hitting Greenland.

How close are we to a near ice free Arctic? When looked at in a three dimensional (length/breadth/depth) fashion there is a very tight straight-line correlation down to near ice free (million cube miles), which is not shown in ice area measures as the ice thinning does not show on the surface. Just go to the "Sea Ice Neven Forum" site, "Latest PIOMAS Update" thread,119.3750.html#msg324768

And look for "Reply #3732" for the PIOMAS (arctic sea ice volume) historical graph and correlation line. Near ice free arctic by 2030 for late summer, after that downhill fast.

Posted by: Roger | Oct 31 2021 20:18 utc | 50

C1ue @ 14

Inertia and normalcy bias keep things appearing unchanged long after collapse has occurred. Normalcy bias on this page appears as single biggest factor in the universe. Most will never have even one clue before the power goes out or food is unavailable. Cancelled flights by the thousand are not about ‘normal’ job actions.And strikes are kinda strictly historical n US. Last big strike was UPS. Was that 1998?

Posted by: Oldhippie | Oct 31 2021 20:24 utc | 51

@Posted by: v | Oct 31 2021 18:45 utc | 35

Very well summarized!

Just because a crisis is being used to the advantage of the capitalist elites does not mean that that crisis is not real. I have already dealt with all the anthropogenic climate denier nonsense multiple times on this blog, so will not also grace such stupidity and ignorance with an answer.

I read Martyanov for his good military and geopolitical takes, not his climate idiocy.

Posted by: Roger | Oct 31 2021 20:25 utc | 52

Good answer BM @ 23!!

I think Rutte’s enthusiastic endorsement of this suggests that hydrogen is going to become very profitable, whatever doubts some may have. If we need the NATO police force… we must have some resources, I mean security threats, to guard and protect. Canada may have agreed to this for the same reason we agreed to give the US such a large discount on crude, while agreeing to have so few refineries in Canada.

I again suggest that we need a special guest post by Patrick Armstrong (not about Poland, geez :-) about the special military relationship between Canada, Sweden, Russia and the USA. Which two Western countries host no US military bases? Canada and Sweden. Zakharova mentioned an existing code of rules in her past briefing. Where Canada is concerned, it goes like this: any US troops stationed here permanently will be matched by Russian troops stationed here due to sensitive irreconcilable matters of geography. So who in Europe managed to convince Washington to agree to a NATO centre in Canada?

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 31 2021 20:49 utc | 53

@vk (No. 3)

Not that I'm disagreeing or anything, but at least a week ago RIA Novosti among other Russian news sites would run articles discussing reader comments on Japanese news sites expressing a desire to be tougher on Russia re: the Kuril islands.

Is it considered "yellow journalism" if the opinions of a select number of readers of a single newspaper in a particular nation are passed off as the general opinion of the entire population of said nation?

Certain questions must be asked: Among the readers of the Japanese newspapers, how many wish for a tougher policy on Russia? How many even read (and trust) said newspapers? Are said "sofa warriors" a vocal minority whose interests run counter to those of the silent majority? What is the average opinion of 126 million Japanese?

Then again, with USian influence on Japanese media, one cannot discount the possibility of USian mind-manipulation and brainwashing at play.

Posted by: joey_n | Oct 31 2021 21:26 utc | 54

@ BN 54
another attaboy for Canada --
-- least anti-China on this list concerning South China Sea -- much better than UK, Australia and New Zealand

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 31 2021 21:30 utc | 55

@ Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2021 18:58 utc | 37

I disagree with Yasha Levine, for many reasons:

1) the Russian Empire adopted a different system of colonization from the Western European empires. It adopted a system we call internal colonization, i.e. the colony, instead of getting a completely inferior status to the metropolis, becomes an integral part of the metropolis, with some autonomous rights imposed by necessity (e.g. geographical vastness, which hinders communications with the center). This system was very inferior to the Western typical colonial system and, by the end of the 19th Century, was already showing clear signs of crumbling (the Tsar already having to crush national revolts in the Western frontiers of the Empire). The Bolsheviks were forced to accept national self-determination out of sheer necessity, not by ideological convictions;

2) the Bolsheviks didn't consider Marxism an ideology, but a scientific theory. Nothing they did ever came out of ideological guessing or conviction. Marxism as a religious sect is Western propaganda perpetuated during and after WWII;

3) after October 1917, the Bolsheviks faced a situation where not the entire world was capitalist. They discussed what to do with this concrete, objective situation. They eventually decided (after endless debates) in a doctrine of dual paths: for the Western (European) countries they would fight for an outright communist revolution (in practice, they had eyes in one country only: Germany), for the East (including the ex-Russian provinces) they would incite and fight for a bourgeois-democratic revolution - an intermediary state - which would develop capitalism in the region, paving the way for a proletarian-socialist revolution. This bourgeois-democratic revolution meant, in practice, a nationalist revolution, because the Western European empires were still very alive and kicking. That's why the Bolsheviks, to the ill-informed, look two-faced: they weren't - they always had eyes to the ultimate prize (world communist revolution). This had nothing to do with "affirmative action", but cold calculation based on a sub-optimal situation;

4) Levine mixes two completely different eras of the USSR: the 1920s (Lenin's era) and the 1930s (Stalin's era). By the 1930s, any hopes for revolution in the West were long gone, the nationalities question had a completely different form;

5) the concept of "bourgeois-democratic revolution" was an immense success in Asia. It dealt a serious blow to the British and French Empires. It gave birth to the Eastern variations of Marxism. It gave birth to the Popular Republic of China (and Maoism). The thing here is that, in the countries where capitalism was developed (Japan, USA, Western Europe), the concept of a violent and brutal revolution was not palatable for the working classes - who were entrenched in a very sophisticated system of labor unions and multiparty elections. But for Asia (and the rest of the Third World), where unions, labor rights etc. etc. were non-existent or very insignificant, a brutal and violent revolution was better than keep living as slaves to the colonial empires. That's why, to this date, the USSR still enjoys a much more favorable view in the Third World (specially Asia) than in the First World (where even the leftists hate the USSR and the Bolsheviks).

Posted by: vk | Oct 31 2021 22:31 utc | 56

Came across a paper by Paul Robinson that might interest barflies, "Russia’s Emergence as an International Conservative Power: Russian Conservatism: An Ideology or a Natural Attitude?" published in Russia in Global Affairs, VOL. 18 • No.1 • January–March • 2020. The abstract tells us, "This article seeks to determine what being an 'international conservative power' actually means for Russia." According to Robinson, several problems exist in making such a determination, with the following paragraph illustrating perhaps the one with the most complexity:

"A second problem is that, as Paul Grenier points out, there is no single Russian conservatism. Instead, one needs to think of 'varieties of Russian conservatism' (Grenier, 2015). Grenier lists three types.
Another study identifies seven (Shchipkov, 2014), and yet another nine (Fedulov, 2015). There are substantial differences between, for instance, liberal conservatives and left-wing conservatives, and between ethno-nationalist conservatives and Eurasianist conservatives. It is also important to understand that the conservatism of the Russian state and its leading officials has historically been, and still is, very different from that of conservative philosophers. From the time of Nikolai Karamzin onwards, what one might call 'intellectual conservatism' has to a large extent been an oppositional phenomenon, while the Russian state has tended to sideline conservative intellectuals. Consequently, as Leonid Polyakov comments, 'conservatism in Russia has never turned into a real force, and all Russian conservatives have felt the tragedy of their alienation from power' (Polyakov, 2014, p. 46). When talking about Russia as a 'conservative power' it is therefore necessary to draw a sharp distinction between state policy and the views of conservative philosophers."

I've linked to other discussions about Putin as a Conservative, but we've never had any deep discussion of this topic or its implications at the bar. The essay isn't terribly long at 28 pages, the last 5 pages being Robinson's note on sources.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2021 22:35 utc | 57

The emperor is the emperor. It can't be helped:

‘Very green’: VIDEO of Biden’s massive 85-car motorcade ahead of climate summit leaves critics stunned

Meanwhile, the West continues to humiliate itself:

Activist Greta Thunberg just described China’s coal policy as “out of touch with reality”

It can't be helped.

Posted by: vk | Oct 31 2021 22:52 utc | 58

It's often said that there's no ideological competition between China, Russia, and the Outlaw US Empire/West. I've disputed that idea since appearing here at the bar. This is my latest point of argumentative evidence:

China's announced goal: To build a community of shared future for mankind.

Publicly announced #1 goal of the Outlaw US Empire: To attain full spectrum domination of the planet and its people.

Xi reminds the world of China's goal every chance he gets. In contrast, the Outlaw US Empire has merely published its goal twice, Joint Vision 2010 in 1996 and Joint Vision 2020 in 2000, and never refers to it in public for reasons that ought to be self-evident. The result being the vast majority of the world's ignorant of the Empire's goal despite much graphic evidence belying its public diplomacy--lying. IMO, the main reason why the Outlaw US Empire doesn't articulate its goal as often as Xi is it doesn't want its citizenry to know what drives its actions and what the ultimate use of their tax dollars go towards trying to attain--slavery for the entire planet and themselves.

My question for the bar: Would things be different if the global public was informed of the above? How much backing would the Outlaw US Empire get versus China? These are serious questions, not merely rhetorical.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 31 2021 22:57 utc | 59

@ karlof 60
Publicly announced #1 goal of the Outlaw US Empire: To attain full spectrum domination of the planet and its people.
p. 6, Joint Vision 2020
Full Spectrum Dominance

The ultimate goal of our military force is to accomplish the objectives directed by the National Command Authorities. For the joint force of the future, this goal will be achieved through full spectrum dominance – the ability of US forces, operating unilaterally or in combination with multinational and interagency partners, to defeat any adversary and control any situation across the full range of military operations.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 31 2021 23:30 utc | 60

The debate on Capitalism/Socialism is settled by realizing most working economies rely on this economic system;

Posted by: vetinLA | Oct 31 2021 23:55 utc | 61

And the real goal of Full Spectrum Dominance?

Using the military to dominate COMMERCE around the globe.

This guy said it long ago;

Posted by: vetinLA | Nov 1 2021 0:05 utc | 62

Oh, and finally something positive about Jenny Psaki: Jen Psaki tests positive for COVID-19

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Nov 1 2021 0:09 utc | 63

Looks like the yellow vests are Third straight week of Yellow Vests indicates they’re back to stay

Posted by: arby | Nov 1 2021 0:33 utc | 64

@karlof1 60,

for some years i believed it was merely a matter of the truth surfacing...if only i could produce evidence clearly, nowhere near as powerfully as julian assange bt share some of the obvious lies, deceptions in the emails...after sharing these with friends, friends of family & friends i've come to suspect the delusion is so fully integrated nothing will penetrate to cause the merest moment's pause. our world has become a silly copy of The Prisoner & its gleeful crowd. friends, family that were fully tuned in the 60s/70s now wholly believe putin/xi/nasrallah are demons & that israel is beyond reproach, a victim to be protected @ all costs. better to shun me than question the narrative. as a child/teenager i could not fathom friends or family reporting on a loved one, now i fully expect dearest loved ones are capable of doing so, for my own good o/c.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Nov 1 2021 0:33 utc | 65

If Turkey finally makes a strong move against the Kurds/SDF, I anxiously await news of Israeli air strikes on Turkish force to protect the neoncon's precious Kurds.

Posted by: schmoe | Nov 1 2021 0:45 utc | 66

Oldhippie #9

A non-technical person can read this. It does not take years of training. Does not require massive intelligence. Only needs patience.

Note that it will make no difference if the spike protein comes from disease or from the vax.

Summary: Diminished immune response. Autoimmune disease. Cancer.


This statement in Discussion could have been specific but then publishing or not is the question:

In contrast, our data provide valuable details on the involvement of spike protein subunits in DNA damage repair, indicating that full–length spike–based vaccines may inhibit the recombination of V(D)J in B cells, which is also consistent with a recent study that a full–length spike–based vaccine induced lower antibody titers compared to the RBD–based vaccine [28]. This suggests that the use of antigenic epitopes of the spike as a SARS–CoV–2 vaccine might be safer and more efficacious than the full–length spike.

After some time researching the difference between full–length spike–based vaccine and the RBD–based vaccine, I am not much more certain but it appears that the pfizer products fall into the full length category and eastern products are sometimes RBD. Can any barflies clarify with a link perhaps?

This is continuing to resemble a malfeasance led blunder of immense proportions.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 1 2021 1:02 utc | 67

And look for "Reply #3732" for the PIOMAS (arctic sea ice volume) historical graph and correlation line. Near ice free arctic by 2030 for late summer, after that downhill fast.

Posted by: Roger | Oct 31 2021 20:18 utc | 51


Shameless charlatans have been shamelessly making loud and false predictions of an ice-free Arctic for quite some time now.

So far, (obviously!) all of them have been proven wrong.

Doesn't stop them just pushing the date further down the road and repeat the whole idiotic prediction process all over again, exactly as before, like the shameless charlatans they so obviously are.

In the last 20 years such claims about 'Ice free Summers' have been made many times, though curiously the date by which this is 'predicted' to occur always seems to change.

So far I have heard that statement made in relation to the year 2010, 2013, 2015, 2020, 2030 etc etc ad nauseum.

For example:

When each predicted date approaches and the prediction is shown to be nothing but hysterical alarmist nonsense, a great palaver is convened and "hey, presto!" a new date, far off into the future, is conjured out of thin air, (or out of some spseudo-"scientist's"/shameless charlatan's rear-end, most likely)

Posted by: Ursus | Nov 1 2021 1:22 utc | 68

Shameless Scaremongering Charlatans are of course not a recent phenomenon - we've always been plagued by them.....

Nov 2 1922 - Headline: "Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt"

A Washington, D.C. resident John Lockwood was conducting research at the Library of Congress and came across an intriguing headline in the Nov. 2, 1922 edition of The Washington Post: "Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt. - November 2nd, 1922.

The article mentions “great masses of ice have now been replaced by moraines of earth and stones,” and “at many points well-known glaciers have entirely disappeared.”

The original source of the story resurfacing recently was a Washington Post article from August 14th, 2007.

The newspaper article was located in the Library of Congress archives by James Lockwood.

Here is the text of the Washington Post (Associated Press) article:

The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway. -

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone.

Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. -

- Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.

Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. -

Posted by: Ursus | Nov 1 2021 1:34 utc | 69

In Re: China's Current Domestic Policy Moves:

Came across this article via link in another blog and it offers an interesting take on current developments in China

I am unfamiliar with the author and platform but in any case the ideas are interesting. The author states that Wang Huning and his theories are the eminence grise behind the current domestic moves in China. He mentions that Wang spent some six months in the USA as a visiting scholar in the early '90s and wrote a book based on his experiences titled America Against America. Wang's view of the USA was bleak even then and his concern today is that the move towards individual entreprenurial business and ownership in China over the past few decades have imported many of these problems into China.
After bit of a sensationalist opener and a section on Wang's educational and intellectual development he gets to some of the thoughts about the USA and China.

A few quotes about the USA:

"Eventually, he concludes that America faces an “unstoppable undercurrent of crisis” produced by its societal contradictions, including between rich and poor, white and black, democratic and oligarchic power, egalitarianism and class privilege, individual rights and collective responsibilities, cultural traditions and the solvent of liquid modernity."

"But while Americans can, he says, perceive that they are faced with “intricate social and cultural problems,” they “tend to think of them as scientific and technological problems” to be solved separately. This gets them nowhere, he argues, because their problems are in fact all inextricably interlinked and have the same root cause: a radical, nihilistic individualism at the heart of modern American liberalism."

“The real cell of society in the United States is the individual,” he finds. This is so because the cell most foundational (per Aristotle) to society, “the family, has disintegrated.” Meanwhile, in the American system, “everything has a dual nature, and the glamour of high commodification abounds. Human flesh, sex, knowledge, politics, power, and law can all become the target of commodification.” This “commodification, in many ways, corrupts society and leads to a number of serious social problems.” In the end, “the American economic system has created human loneliness” as its foremost product, along with spectacular inequality. As a result, “nihilism has become the American way, which is a fatal shock to cultural development and the American spirit.”

"he notes a growing tension between Enlightenment liberal rationalism and a “younger generation [that] is ignorant of traditional Western values” and actively rejects its cultural inheritance. “If the value system collapses,” he wonders, “how can the social system be sustained?”

Quotes from the article regarding Wang's fears for China:

"...his worst fear has become reality: the “unstoppable undercurrent of crisis” he identified in America seems to have successfully jumped the Pacific. Despite all his and Xi’s success in draconian suppression of political liberalism, many of the same problems Wang observed in America have nonetheless emerged to ravage China over the last decade as the country progressively embraced a more neoliberal capitalist economic model.

“Socialism with Chinese Characteristics” has rapidly transformed China into one of the most economically unequal societies on earth. It now boasts a Gini Coefficient of, officially, around 0.47, worse than the U.S.’s 0.41. The wealthiest 1% of the population now holds around 31% of the country’s wealth (not far behind the 35% in the U.S.). But most people in China remain relatively poor: some 600 million still subsist on a monthly income of less than 1,000 yuan ($155) a month.

"Meanwhile, Chinese tech giants have established monopoly positions even more robust than their U.S. counterparts, often with market shares nearing 90%. Corporate employment frequently features an exhausting “996” (9am to 9pm, 6 days a week) schedule. Others labor among struggling legions trapped by up-front debts in the vast system of modern-day indentured servitude that is the Chinese “gig economy.” Up to 400 million Chinese are forecast to enjoy the liberation of such “self-employment” by 2036, according to Alibaba."

"The job market for China’s ever-expanding pool of university graduates is so competitive that “graduation equals unemployment” is a societal meme (the two words share a common Chinese character). And as young people have flocked to urban metropoles to search for employment, rural regions have been drained and left to decay, while centuries of communal extended family life have been upended in a generation, leaving the elderly to rely on the state for marginal care. In the cities, young people have been priced out of the property market by a red-hot asset bubble."

"Feeling alone and unable to get ahead in a ruthlessly consumerist society, Chinese youth increasingly describe existing in a state of nihilistic despair encapsulated by the online slang term neijuan (“involution”), which describes a “turning inward” by individuals and society due to a prevalent sense of being stuck in a draining rat race where everyone inevitably loses. This despair has manifested itself in a movement known as tangping, or “lying flat,” in which people attempt to escape that rat race by doing the absolute bare minimum amount of work required to live, becoming modern ascetics."

"It’s true that China never remotely liberalized—if you consider liberalism to be all about democratic elections, a free press, and respect for human rights. But many political thinkers would argue there is more to a comprehensive definition of modern liberalism than that. Instead, they would identify liberalism’s essential telos as being the liberation of the individual from all limiting ties of place, tradition, religion, associations, and relationships, along with all the material limits of nature, in pursuit of the radical autonomy of the modern “consumer.”

From this perspective, China has been thoroughly liberalized, and the picture of what’s happening to Chinese society begins to look far more like Wang’s nightmare of a liberal culture consumed by nihilistic individualism and commodification."

The article then goes on to place China's current domestic moves in the context of a reaction to the social distress wrought by the economic liberalization policies of the recent past.

Knowing that a lot of you are more conversent than I regarding both general socialist/Marxist theory and Chinese policy, I am curious if you know of Wang and whether you do or not, what thoughts you have on the ideas in this article.

Link to a machine translation of Wang's America Against America:

Posted by: lone plateau | Nov 1 2021 1:35 utc | 70

@Posted by: Ursus | Nov 1 2021 1:34 utc | 70

So another bullshitting ignorant jerk (or one of the same with multiple screen names) who doesn't engage with the actual data presented, but instead throws as much shit as possible to redirect. As I have committed to not engage with ignoramuses such as yourself, I will not any further.

Posted by: Roger | Nov 1 2021 2:59 utc | 71

@ Les7 | Oct 31 2021 19:24 utc | 42

thanks les.. sometimes the info available is overwhelming... i guess we all have to pace ourselves...

@ 9 oldhippie / @68 uncle tungsten... keep us posted on those developments.. thanks...

Posted by: james | Nov 1 2021 3:38 utc | 72

"Get Smart About What Really Happened in the 2020 Election"

The CTCL took "ZuckBucks" and with extreme, strategic precision, re-granted it to thousands of government election officials to "help" them conduct the 2020 election.

Posted by: Antonym | Nov 1 2021 3:55 utc | 73

Hi, been a keen daily reader of MoA.. Sorry if I'm being selfish here.. Need some career advice.. Been teaching engineering most of my life, and fed up now, it's a hollow life.. decided to do something else.. yet to find out that 'something'.. Will learning Python and becoming a developer be a good option? Age-wise, nearing 50.. Thank you..

Posted by: R | Nov 1 2021 3:59 utc | 74

Below is the first part of a Xinhuanet piece about what Foreign Minister Wang Yi said to US Secretary of State Antony Blinken

ROME, Oct. 31 (Xinhua) -- Bilateral relations between China and the United States in the past few years have suffered an all-round impact due to the wrong China policy pursued by the United States, Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi said here on Sunday during his meeting with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

The United States has wantonly interfered with China's internal affairs, Wang stressed, noting that the current U.S. Congress has introduced more than 300 anti-China bills, and the United States has included more than 900 Chinese entities and individuals in various unilateral sanctions lists, which severely disrupted the normal bilateral exchanges.

Moreover, the United States is also patching up various small circles to suppress China on a global scale, and even exerting pressure on many small and medium-sized countries, Wang said, adding that these practices are not in line with the interests of the peoples of the two countries, not in line with the expectations of the international community, not in line with the development trend of the times, and hence China voices its clear opposition.

The important experience accumulated over the past four decades since the establishment of diplomatic relations between the two countries is that both China and the United States stand to gain from cooperation and lose from confrontation, Wang said, adding that the two sides have learned from contacts in Anchorage, Tianjin and Zurich that they must respect each other and treat each other equally.

Taiwan is rightfully a hot button for China and empire wants to keep stirring the pot in hopes something good comes their way....only it ain't happening and the hole being dug gets deeper and deeper.

Desperation says something will be tried with a ghost of a chance of "success" in consolidating empire resources in an effective standoff against the growing China/Russia axis.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 1 2021 4:03 utc | 75

@ lone plateau 71
Speaking for myself, I couldn't care less how China is governed. Why should I care? I know China has a policy of dealing with any country in a win-win strategy, with no meddling in that country's politics. That's a great policy IMO. There's a couple hundred countries on the planet, all different. Our concern ought to be about our own countries, not somebody else's.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 1 2021 4:16 utc | 76

@ R | Nov 1 2021 3:59 utc | 76 with the request for career opinions

Given your engineering background I think that computer networking may be a better fit for you than competing with a much larger and likely younger competition group in the web development world.

It depends what you really want to do to make money versus have a career. Find a niche and fill it.....or do something you love and expect the money to follow.

This 73 year old techie with 50+ years of techie fun's $0.02.....YMMV

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 1 2021 4:19 utc | 77

Thanks to karlof1 for the link to a long essay on Russian Conservatism - the passage about Solzhenitsyn was interesting, he having spent some time in the US before returning to his homeland.

Orthodox Christianity is only one of the threads of conservatism from the historic cultural mix, but as it is the one with which I am most familiar, I will add an excerpt from a small book I have of three essays written on the eve of the revolution that focuses on that thread:

"...Such are the dimensions of the struggle we are waging. [the horrors of war approaching in 1915] Not only our own territorial integrity and independence are at stake, but the salvation of everything that is human in man, the preservation of the very meaning of human life in face of the threatening chaos and meaninglessness. The spiritual struggle that lies ahead for us is immeasurably harder and more important than the armed struggle that is now bleeding us white. Man can no longer remain merely a man: he must rise above himself or fall into the abyss, become godlike or become a beast. At this moment in history mankind stands at the crossroads. It must definitely decide which way it will take, that of a zoological culture or that of the 'loving heart' aflame with love for all creatures. Which will it be? Is the world destined to become a zoo -- or a church?..." Eugene N. Trubetskoi "A World View in Painting" 1915

Posted by: juliania | Nov 1 2021 5:25 utc | 78

psychohistorian #77

Taiwan is rightfully a hot button for China and empire wants to keep stirring the pot in hopes something good comes their way....only it ain't happening and the hole being dug gets deeper and deeper.

Desperation says something will be tried with a ghost of a chance of "success" in consolidating empire resources in an effective standoff against the growing China/Russia axis.

The outlaw US empire does disabling interference with every nation that rejects being a vassal state. I figure they will cause provocation wherever possible in every neighbour bordering on China.

Just ask Russia if the western neighbours are being hospitable and sincere.

I expect the US will definitely get totally provocative via Japan as this is a twofer in terms of upset value. So Japan will do increasingly pathetic annoyances perhaps even 'nuke' linked with joint naval provocations alongside US warships.

Pakistan will be driven mad by perpetual annoyances because they neighbour Afghanistan and China and refuse to kiss the US rs plus they are a 'democracy so the US gets to play nasty at election time. This will just go on and on and if it looks like quietening down then some sleeper cell somewhere will blow up a Chinese bus in Baluchistan.

All of the friends of Russia and China and Iran are in for a tough time of sabotage and aggravation. See Israel and the persistent annoyance of Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and you get the picture. If the Saudis seriously stray over the next months and years then they too will suddenly find themselves under serious sabotage, probably blamed on Yemen or Iran but everyone will get the message.

I hope for a better world but it is not yet on the horizon and the next US president is unlikely to buck the system of global pillage and death wherever possible.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 1 2021 5:45 utc | 79

@R | Nov 1 2021 3:59 utc | 76

As Psychohistorian said, comp net is a better fit for engineer. However, it usually comes with a lot of traveling from site to site. It can also rapidly become rather mundane.

However, many things in the computer industry are suited to an engineering mind. I don't know anything about the industry availability in your area or if you prefer self employment to standard job.

Python, Java or C family languages are all modern, fast and well supported.

I'm gonna throw you a wobbly here though. If you look into modern game engines they usually have node based programming available. Specifically Unity and Unreal engine. With these and a small bit of C family programming, you can program games and small phone apps. (Unreal uses C++ and Unity use C#).

They are both free to download and practice on and you can figure out if you like the idea and can see a future in it for yourself. Also, there is a great deal of youtube tutorials and howtos on Unity and less so on unreal. This route is more for self employment. You can make games large and small and sell them via Steam.

Although I did do programming much earlier in life, it was limited with a multi decade gap (The languages I knew are literally dead languages now), I started using this much later than a young whippersnapper like yourself.

Posted by: JustAnotherAussie | Nov 1 2021 5:56 utc | 80

Posted by: schmoe | Nov 1 2021 0:45 utc | 67

"If Turkey finally makes a strong move against the Kurds/SDF, I anxiously await news of Israeli air strikes on Turkish force to protect the neoncon's precious Kurds."
Israel supports Al Nusra, ISIS, against Assad, and also Turkey for that matter, not really the SDF, so any effort by the Turks against the SDF will not lead to a response by Israel. Any serious Turkish push against the PYD will be negotiated with the US. They are all against Assad.

In any case, Israel primarily works with the Barzani Kurds in Iraq, as has Turkey.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Nov 1 2021 7:34 utc | 81

Not that long ago MoA published a piece on China consisting of a link to annual predictions of her collapse since (?) 2000, could please someone help me to locate the piece? Many thanks

Posted by: Baron | Nov 1 2021 7:58 utc | 82

Uncle tungsten @68

Your query is answered here:

First hit first search. This is not difficult.

Yes, Pfizer is full length. Sub-unit vaccines are prospective unless someone approved Novavax while I wasn’t looking. Only takes a couple memos and a phone call to approve a vax these days. Suppose I could search and find out for you but why? The fix is in and Pfizer owns the market.

The discussion section, indeed the whole paper cited in my first post, reads as it does because stating the facts too baldly would not be published.

Neither malfeasance nor a blunder. You can only say that because at some level you still basically trust your owners. I don’t know how to talk to people who trust the boot kicking their face.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 1 2021 8:07 utc | 83

Thank you psychohistorian and JustAnotherAussie for your very precious comments. Thanks a million..

Posted by: R | Nov 1 2021 8:17 utc | 84

Reducing "fossil" fuel consumption.

Aside from climate change, just regular air polution from burning carbon based fuels or even renewables, like wood, kill about 9 million people a year globally, making COVID seem rather tame.

Much of that is caused by the by-products of "fossil" fuel burning. That is before any consideration of anthropomorphic climate change contributions.

And one of the biggest contributors of this pollution are militaries, particularly the Pentagon, as the largest global military, out pollution at least 47 countries, some say 140 countries.

Then there is the Oxfam study:

So, do you really think, it is necessary for the 90% or even 99% to drastically alter their lifestyles to combat climate change? Clearly, reducing militaries and reducing the wealthy "technocrats" like Schwab and Gates would go a long way to "saving the planet". If they "owned nothing", I am sure the 90% would be happier and healthier.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Nov 1 2021 8:23 utc | 85

Thanks b for providing these open threads. Your intros are great and the comments provide education and entertainnment. Plus it’s nice to have the freedom to just present whatever rather than staying ‘on topic’.

So I have some comments on some comments.

Thanks to vk for the continued analysis of the Bolshevik’s revolution. I’ve read a good deal of Lenin, some of Trotsky and others but your overall scope of that history really helps clarify events and set them into a framework. Your post @57 is an example of that. I couldn’t really make much sense out of what Yasha Levine wrote in #37 without a lot of drudgery, but after reading your comments I was able to take it on with a better understanding. And, to repeat myself, I think you would appreciate Samir Amin.

And kudos to karlof1 as well. You spend a lot of time and energy bringing info to the bar and even though it appears to be a labor of love for you, you should know that is appreciated. In b’s previous post of Oct. 30 about the Iran deal, your post # 51 was indeed a nice referral to some much needed background to keep up to speed and avoid repetition. (I also learned that we share some geographical links. I was packing my duffel bag at Mather on my way to Vietnam while you were handing out flyers for RFK and I spent many years in Sacratomato/ R. Cordova. Also an Oregon native from Canby, heh.) And btw, Don Bacon’s post # 48 on the previous OT-83 was a very nice piece of work, as well, providing good info on the US sanctions v. Iran.

As for the little kerfluffle about Martynov in this thread starting with v@35, I think Norwegian @43 had a valid question and did not deserve the vulgar response @49. (I’m not just defending a countryman here, I would take the same stance for a Swede.) The whole conversation about climate, while crucially important, is as pock-marked and suspect as the C19 pandemic info. One need only read John P.A. Ioannidis’ paper Why Most Published Research Papers are False to understand that your opinion is just your opinion. To think that teenage Greta is some kind of savant who has it all figured is wishful. (I’m not critical because she’s a Swede, I’d take the same stance if she was a Norskie.) It’s been almost 40 years since the opening remarks of my Fortran instructor were “garbage in, garbage out”, and the models for climate are subject to that. The model from Imperial College predicting untold death from Covid-19 is another example. Even plate tectonic theory was denied by many at the time I came into being. Having a different opinion doesn’t make anyone an ass and I don’t see that Norwegian was even provocative.

Likewise, I think the comments of Roger, @53 and @73, reflect poorly on the otherwise good opinion I have of him via his input. Were they necessary? If you say you won’t respond, why engage in name-calling. Tch. This is also a consideration in the vapid back and forth between Gruff and JR. It’s just chaff in the barley and degrades the whiskey. This bar is better than that.

I think I’ll follow james’ example and go for a walk now. There’s a woods right behind my home where I’ll find solitude but first I have to cross the road and the night frost makes the asphalt dangerous. No doubt there is global warming but what I need is some local warming. A shot of aquavit when I return should do it. “Barkeep!”

Posted by: waynorinorway | Nov 1 2021 9:59 utc | 87

Posted by: Roger | Nov 1 2021 2:59 utc | 73

Spoken like a truly shameless charalatan.

Kick the table over and indignantly flounce out of the room while declaring "How DARE you!"

Fake indignation being their favourite stock-in-trade.

Well, that and flouncing.

We see exactly the same theatrics from fakes like "Little Greta".


Posted by: Ursus | Nov 1 2021 10:20 utc | 88

karlof1 | Oct 31 2021 22:57 utc | 60

re Would things be different if the global public was informed of the above? How much backing would the Outlaw US Empire get versus China? ...

Diplomacy now includes informing the global public with straight-talk...and we are listening and thinking anew. Continue informing with communicates.

Posted by: chu teh | Nov 1 2021 10:41 utc | 89

It seems the war of words between China vs Taiwan is increasing, not decreasing.
Hope both sides are calm.

Still, I'd support Xi Jinping over the americans.

Posted by: Smith | Nov 1 2021 11:43 utc | 90

=> R | Nov 1 2021 3:59 utc | 76

Somebody said "Python, Java or C family languages are all modern, fast and well supported." Although I don't plan to learn any of these (I have too many other projects), I know they are all incredibly ancient and soon to be obsolete. Better not quit your day job, but learning the new Zig replacement for the C 'language' might put you ahead of the kids. It might be useful to learn C99 along side it, maybe. Find Zig (it's still semi-beta) at:

Essential C:

Due to the inevitable imminent societal decay and the coming Great Age of De-Complexification, you would perhaps be better off learning, say, glassblowing.

Posted by: blues | Nov 1 2021 12:11 utc | 91

waynorinorway @Nov1 9:59 #89:

why engage in name-calling. Tch.

... vapid back and forth between Gruff and JR.

Our back and forth wasn't "vapid". Gruff and I have a long-standing difference of opinion. It got contentious only because he attempted to portray me as a Democratic shill. That appears to have passed (because there's no basis for it).

Your "vapid" characterization does a disservice because IMO there is much good that readers can learn from that conversation. You also neglect my comments in this thread (@5, @6, @15) which perfect the point I was making with Gruff (that we are seeing an orchestrated move to the right): the "populist" movements on both the left and right are contrived. Coke and Pepsi.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 1 2021 12:33 utc | 92

Due to the inevitable imminent societal decay and the coming Great Age of De-Complexification, you would perhaps be better off learning, say, glassblowing.

Posted by: blues | Nov 1 2021 12:11 utc | 93

or maybe something in the plumbing/sanitation sector.....

Posted by: Ursus | Nov 1 2021 12:53 utc | 93

Hi, been a keen daily reader of MoA.. Sorry if I'm being selfish here.. Need some career advice.. Been teaching engineering most of my life, and fed up now, it's a hollow life.. decided to do something else.. yet to find out that 'something'.. Will learning Python and becoming a developer be a good option? Age-wise, nearing 50.. Thank you..

Posted by: R | Nov 1 2021 3:59 utc | 76

The IT business is a collection of fads and rackets these days. What sort of engineering you know is important too. At your age with your background you can do almost anything your want to, I'd look into something low-key, basic, and close to the ground, but skilled, like welding. People who understand electricity should do well too. And materials science. I would NOT try to "compete" in the hot-shit-startup marketplace or anything like that. If you want to stay white-collar the same applies, learn something simple and necessary. I would not chase after the latest IT fad language or whatnot. None of that will last. My 2c.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 1 2021 12:54 utc | 94

To R @ #76:

I'm now 75 and retired. At age 50 I moved from teaching to programming in the UK for banks, insurance companies and building societies . At that time in the UK, not sure about now, it was easy to set up a limited company and take advantage of low taxation of my gross income. I approached agencies with my CV and the agency would find me an interview. It was then up to me to get offered the contract. Usually this would be for an initial 3 months but every time (depending on the project at the clients) I would stay with them for 6 months to 24 months. After 5 years I moved into being an IT business analyst - better money and just as interesting as programming. I retired at age 66 (because I wanted to, I could still be working now?). Having done 16 years of highly paid work I'd made enough money to retire with.

Some final points: (1) I had to work around the UK in many different cities, often staying in B&B during the week but around 50% of the time I could travel from home (2) getting that first contract is the major hurdle, once you get that on your CV it gets progressively easier to find the next contract (3) it might pay you to take a course in Python or C++ (4) my 18 year old grandson is taking an online course (around £200) in PRINCE, which is the UK recognised standard for work as a project manager so in addition to the programming and business analyst routes there is also the project management route (5) I would recommend a database course for MySQL, PostgreSQL, Microsoft SQL Server, Oracle Database or Microsoft Access, do some research into these: whatever the industry, whatever the IT system, they all need a database to store their data and a means of accessing and processing that data (6) other industries also need these various skill sets but they may not pay as much as the banks etc.

Hope this helps, in my case age was not a barrier to reinventing myself...

Good luck R.

Posted by: SoMuchToLearn | Nov 1 2021 13:08 utc | 95

Re: : R | Nov 1 2021 3:59 utc | 76

Sometimes a complete change of career can be quite rewarding. Of course, that depends on your circumstances. If you have to keep the $$ flowing to keep up a lifestyle or support a family, then your choices may be limited to whatever work you can find.
But if you have the means, why not take a few steps back and think about new horizons? Want to get off the grid? Have any skills that allow you to become self-sufficient to some degree? Do you like being outdoors more than indoors, like fresh air and working with your hands? As far as I can tell, you only go around once. Do something you like and are interested in.

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 1 2021 13:49 utc | 96

blues@93, Thank you very much.. Will surely look at Zig.. Ursus@95, thank you..

Bemildred@96, Thanks a lot.. "simple and necessary", will keep that in mind in my quest..

SoMuchToLearn@97, Thanks so much for sharing your story in such detail.. It was very encouraging to read about your journey.. It increased my confidence.. Will keep your precious advice in mind..

This is the strength of the MoA community.. Goodness abounds here.. one among many reasons to pay daily homage here..

Posted by: R | Nov 1 2021 13:58 utc | 97

@Tom Pfotzer #20
My view is that we will not see major change until the economic and social repression is so severe that everyday people will revolt.
And once a revolt occurs, no amount of calm, rational advice is going to matter.
It is like steering a semi on a lake of ice - all you can hope for is to go in the right general direction.
In the meantime, on a personal level, being mentally, financially and socially prepared is far more beneficial.
No, it is not guaranteed that we will have a revolt. FDR, Andrew Jackson before him, Theodore Roosevelt are some examples where egregious abuses were pushed back on. But are they any today of that stature? I can't say I see any evidence of it, whatsoever.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 1 2021 14:12 utc | 98

@Roger #72
How very typical: when faced with adverse information or reactions, you retreat into complaints about abuse.
Real science is about confronting uncomfortable facts - ones which can contradict your own beliefs.
Climate science today has more data than ever but is less able to produce measurable, accurate predictions than the Farmer's Almanac. How is this not a sign that something is amiss?

Furthermore, the reality continues to be that mainstream climate science today is heavily reliant on both computer modeling - which experts of all levels have looked into and found seriously wanting - as well as funded "climate change" research. The latter is even more insidious: will a person who is paid to find climate change, fail to find it?

The reproduction crisis in science is bad overall, but it is orders of magnitude worse in climate science where all manner of outright data manipulation has been uncovered, not to mention emails showing said scientists knew full well what they were doing (i.e. it wasn't just due to statistical incompetence).

And the worst of all: marriage of crappy climate models with even less reliable bullshit from economists. It is like taking 2 forms of garbage and calling it art.

This works in the art world - it doesn't work in the real world.

So again: while I fully agree that climate is changing, that it is getting warmer, and that humans likely do play some role in this - I fully disagree that the above are clearly
a) negative economically
b) able to be averted with either today's technology or the near future's
c) are a greater problem than at least a dozen others in the world today

I also do believe that there is a tremendous coterie of people directly benefiting from all this doomster talk and government largesse ranging from the alternative energy "industry" to many lawyers, subsidized scientists, marketeers and "thought leaders".

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 1 2021 14:31 utc | 99

They simply do not care if NYC burns down. Two hour response time for a fire. Cue Peggy Lee - “Is that all there is to a fire?” James at least should have the reference.

We are at the point where they take the props off the stage, roll up the painted scenery, and we are left looking at the brick wall at the back of the theatre.

The well-indoctrinated will not see the brick wall. They will see the Rockettes. They will see King Lear. They will see anything but the brick wall.

“Then let’s keep dancing. Let’s break out the booze. And have a ball. If that’s all there is.”

Never saw Peggy. Do know Bobby Lewis, her musical director and trumpeter. “Peggy was always about having a good time.”

Posted by: Oldhippie | Nov 1 2021 14:32 utc | 100

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