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October 24, 2021

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2021-082

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Wonder who will write the history
of the Covid Syndrome ?

Posted by: librul | Oct 24 2021 13:50 utc | 1

Or should I have said
Covid Stockholm Syndrome?

Posted by: librul | Oct 24 2021 13:57 utc | 2

A deleted government report exploring how to make the public alter its behavior to accept the new ‘green economy’ reveals how COVID-19 restrictions have created a population with a “deep set reverence” for authority and a “powerful tendency to conform.”

Do Tell /sarcasm

Add reverence for authority and a tendency to conform
together with fear and abuse
and one should not be surprised to witness a wide (!) scale
Covid Stockholm Syndrome.

Posted by: librul | Oct 24 2021 14:05 utc | 3


This new report seems designed to throw fire on the partisan flame.

1) The astro-turfed libertarian mob have been screaming about people's submission to government for over a year.

2) If the government secretly wants to test the power of conforming then they are doing it all wrong. Vaccine and mask mandates disrupt any such testing.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 24 2021 14:18 utc | 4


Link to Wikileaks

This is not possible in a non-socialist nation:

China to pilot levying property tax in selected cities


First joint naval patrol by China, Russia in West Pacific is ‘of vital significance’: military experts

Japan should never feed itself the illusion it will come out as anything else than a radioactive wasteland if it ever dares to participate in a war for Taiwan.


The advantages of having a fucking huge domestic consumer market:

HarmonyOS ‘is a success’, embedded to 150 million devices, appliances: Huawei

China's middle class is what, 120% the population of the whole European Union?


China’s loss can be the rest of Asia’s gain

Even if that does happen at any significant scale (spoiler: it will not and is not), it wouldn't change the fact that you're still in a zero-sum game scenario: capitalism would still have the same crappy profit rate (profitability). Just changing the place of the factory doesn't raise one's profit rate, that's simply not how capitalism works.


Very interesting article commemorating 65 years anniversary of the crushing of the Hungarian counter-revolution of 1956:

Bloody czardas [sic?]: how the Hungarians staged the first "color revolution": The rebels killed the communists and supporters of the USSR, by Arseny Zamostyanov, for Izvestia


Joke of the week:

China fast-tracks access to rebellious Xinjiang: Newly finished Hotan-Ruoqiang rail line completes the circle around the huge Taklamakan Desert on the old Silk Road



True green policies are red:

Xi urges notable progress in ecological protection, high-quality development of Yellow River basin


U.S. budget deficit hits 2.77 trln USD in FY 2021


China's Xi vows to bolster ties with North Korea in letter to Kim

Posted by: vk | Oct 24 2021 14:27 utc | 5

Thanks to MOA for the continued coverage of important issues, and the dialogue it engenders. Always appreciate the different perspectives presented so intelligently.

Posted by: gottlieb | Oct 24 2021 14:49 utc | 6

“Sultan Qaboos let a company run by an ex-CIA officer build much of the peninsula’s infrastructure.” From Declassified UK article

About that Foreign Office and Imperial Britain… b once again gives a link to revealing documents showing Britain’s crimes, in the name of imperialism. I can’t believe that I am actually defending Britain, but — it is curious that in this exposé of British crimes in Musandam, Oman in the1970’s (just prior to the petrodollar era), there is this singular reference to a significant CIA connection. The article opens with a suggestion that the UK is an illegitimate permanent member of the UN Security Council, hinting at a possible agenda for this article.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 24 2021 15:17 utc | 7

Does it bother anyone else when human beings are referred to as 'aliens'? Especially 'illegal aliens'? Let's go with migrants, refugees, exiles, but please not aliens. Humans are not alien and boundaries are arbitrary. Let's reserve the word 'alien' for our brothers, sisters, and gender-fluid beings from off world who await our awakening to a level of intelligence that precludes self-extinction.

Posted by: gottlieb | Oct 24 2021 15:23 utc | 8

Hello all. Interested in information on the Chinese social credit system. All sides accepted. So any links/personal experience/knowledge would be greatly appreciated. I ask for my son who has an interest, and what better place to find a multitude of oppinions and info that right here at my fave bar. Thanks in advance

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 24 2021 15:28 utc | 9

any idea what the difference is between reporting on pseudo-events that appeal to conscious decision and propaganda that makes those decisions for you ? READ ALL ABOUT IT IN THIS BOOK
P. 34 -40 FOR STARTERS..
a reporter's duty is to lie? "

In my opinion, if the world were were told the truth, there would be no more wars.. Propaganda is the cuprite that polarizes the people of the world and the nation state system differentiates the people of the world from each other..

Want a world with no war, a world that makes every human on earth into a part of the team that everyone willingly contributes to.. make it illegal a major crime, to knowingly produce a lie into a content that appears on the media..<=fixing the world is that simple.. I think.

Posted by: snake | Oct 24 2021 15:36 utc | 10

@librul | Oct 24 2021 13:50 utc | 1

It's the story of mass psychosis. It has happened many times before, but not on this scale.

Characteristic Symptoms of Pathological Science

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 24 2021 15:38 utc | 11

@ Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 24 2021 15:28 utc | 9

It is what it is. Go to the Global Times, and in the search engine type "social credit system". You'll find all the information there.

Posted by: vk | Oct 24 2021 16:12 utc | 12

thanks vk

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 24 2021 16:28 utc | 13

I can only speak to conditions here in the U$A, but, we now live in a nation where the majority of people are unable to discern reality from propganda because of willful ignorance, and the pursuit
of status, and hedonism.
The U$A has become one big advertising and marketing scheme, conducted by, and for, the uber-rich.

Ayn Rand would be ecstatic.

Posted by: vetinLA | Oct 24 2021 17:28 utc | 14

b sites usually reliable Caitlin Johnstone, but don't be fooled! The prescription of aluminum for hat could not be less reliable. Ears, nostrils mouth are unprotected, and a mild breeze can blow it away. Yes, one can do it in emergency, but it is not, I repeat NOT, the grade appropriate for military and diplomatic personel.

Amazon offers a solid solution that can be augmented by a metal coif covering the neck and shoulders. Metal mesh is also creating an antiradiation effect. (A note: this solution has a vulnerability: war hammers. But Do not use it without padding, and select the size with that in mind.)

There are some risk, you can find yourself shouting now and then, especially "Deus Vult!", but this is a rather minor effect.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 24 2021 18:14 utc | 15

@ snake 10
a reporter's duty is to lie?
Yes, or he/she becomes an ex-reporter.

Two excellent sources:
>"Media Control, The Spectacular Achievements of Propaganda," by Nam Chomsky
>"War Made Easy -- How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death," by Norman Solomon

...from the latter....
Dan Rather, an iconic US journalist: "Look I'm an American. I never tried to kid anybody that I'm some internationalist or something. And when my country is at war, I want my country to win, whatever the definition of 'win' might be. Now, I can't and don't argue that that is coverage without prejudice. About that I am prejudiced." So Dan brought us through the criminal war against Vietnam and the Nixon presidency.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2021 18:41 utc | 16

Posted by: gottlieb | Oct 24 2021 15:23 utc | 8

Personally, I am a Resident Alien (not to be confused with Resident Evil).

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 24 2021 19:32 utc | 17

When Joe Biden comes out of the basement every once in a while and says something, like "The US will protect Taiwan from China" there is usually an immediate correction, issued by "The White House".
What is this "White House"?
Remember when Trump got in and the NY Times was quick to assure us, via editorial, that there were "adults in charge", so no prospect of him making any decisions that the "adults" didn't approve?
But now they are pretending that Joe Biden is in charge, making decisions all day long, and only occasionally needing correction, but not by "adults", by "the White House".
Is the "White House" the same "adults" that were in charge before?

Posted by: wagelaborer | Oct 24 2021 19:32 utc | 18


The "White House" is the US subsidiary of "The Palace".

Posted by: John Cleary | Oct 24 2021 19:42 utc | 19

thanks b for all the content... i echo @ 6 gottliebs viewpoint as well... thanks everyone.

@ 9 tannenhouser... good question.. they way it is being portrayed in the western media is it is really a bad thing... my friend in taiwan says the same.. i don't know much about it.. basically it supports and encourages conformity and penalizes the basic idea that if a person should "break a law" - jaywalk for example - they are really bad people.. if that is it, i am happy we don't have something like this here... rules and laws are written by those in power... right away i have a problem with that! but - i don't live in china, so i don't know how it works and it is mostly none of my business... maybe someone in china can comment... i suspect we might wake up william gruff here, lol.. no bunny jokes william!

what i am listening to at the moment - Clifford Jordan Quartet Night Of The Mark Vll

Posted by: james | Oct 24 2021 20:03 utc | 20

"Woke (/woʊk/ wohk) is a term originating in the United States that originally meant to be alert to racial prejudice and discrimination. Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader a —

Posted by: Laurence | Oct 24 2021 20:09 utc | 21

Posted by: John Cleary | Oct 24 2021 19:42 utc | 19

Are you sure it is not the other way around :)

Posted by: Bluedotterel | Oct 24 2021 20:34 utc | 22

by: Don Bacon @16 you want your country to win, everybody does, that is the result of being born to a particular set of experiences. Each persons nation state differentiates their personality, their belief system, their psychic and adjusts their understanding to a world view seen most favorably thru the propaganda and educationally filtered lens the nation states want each governed person to see about the world.

The propaganda, education and culture in which you engage experience dictates for you, who and what is good and who and what is bad..

Hypothetically, forced to choose which would it be: your home town, your family, your county, your religion, your state, your America, etc. Its possible someday a different government will govern America or a different constitution will define a different government to rule Americans in different way?

The history of the world shows, many people in the same place have been governed by different governments; some people have experienced change in government many times within their own lifetimes?

Which side will you take then? What I am trying to say, is that our personality, beliefs and psychology are fine turned and made a part of our biology from conception to death. These changes happen as we each, are allowed to engage experience and as a result of our capacity ( sensory, mental and physiological systems) to capture, decode and understand the meanings derived from our experiences.

Change the experience and you have changed the biology, psychology, and the expectations of that person from the instant of the new experience for the duration of that persons life.

The important thing: is to understand things from the world view and to avoid being confined by one system and one set of life experiences. Humanity everywhere is the same. the physical being of Humanity is manufactured from the human genome and a life time of experience .

Posted by: snake | Oct 24 2021 20:45 utc | 23

Laurence @21--

Yes, that's quite close. Earlier this year I had the opportunity while visiting Georgia and Alabama to talk about the term Woke with multigenerational whites and blacks living there. They said the term Woke was utilized by Black slaves during the 19th Century as a shorthanded term acknowledging their plight and continued to mean the same after the Civil War Reconstruction Era ceased with the rise of Jim Crow. Woke also had connotations in coal mining company towns and amongst sharecroppers from the South to Midwest. Some of the proletarian literature I've read written during the Depression also seeks to awaken. The Class component lurks large within that concept. Although they didn't use the term, the best purveyors of the notion of Woke as a sign of class solidarity were the Prairie Populists who spread out of North Texas in the late 1870s and almost overcame the Capitalist Oligarchy of those times. When you go back further in time to the 1500s in Europe as Enclosure began to get very ugly, it's possible to see the awakening of the poor to the dire threat to their existence as articulated in their religious tracts, which by the time of the English Civil War had become very sophisticated in naming The Enemy--the Royalists and their allies--as not just enemies of Humanity but also of God.

If the Wokeness Narrative could be shifted to The Class War, it has the potential to become very powerful. Do take note how that's not being allowed to occur.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2021 20:45 utc | 24

Tannenhouser @9 Hello, I know a few people from China who live in the UK. They come from an extended family, & make frequent trips back home. I hadn't seen 1 of them for at least a year, & was told it's because she left a financial debt behind in China, so her travel privileges were amended. No flights or high speed train journeys for her, only normal "slow" trains. Her case will be reviewed, at some point, & a decision will be made on whether she has "reformed". No fixed dates, but that is part of the punishment.

Posted by: boon | Oct 24 2021 20:54 utc | 25

i notice max has disappeared..

Posted by: james | Oct 24 2021 21:29 utc | 26

Hard to say if this sets a new standard forGlobal Times editorials concerning the Outlaw US Empire: "US will humiliate itself challenging UN Resolution 2758, undermining one-China principle."

"The resolution was approved on October 25, 1971. It clearly states that 'the representatives of the Government of the People's Republic of China are the only lawful representatives of China to the United Nations.' It 'decides to expel forthwith the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek from the place which they unlawfully occupy at the United Nations and in all the organizations related to it.' Though the resolution did not mention 'Taiwan' or 'the Republic of China,' there were no doubts about who Chiang Kai-shek's representatives were at that time. The UN's comprehensive boycott against Taiwan authorities based on this resolution was never questioned. Even Taiwan's secessionist forces who manipulated the issue of making the island a member of the UN had to fabricate other excuses rather than challenging Resolution 2758. Finding fault with Resolution 2758 is completely a new trick of the island of Taiwan and the US this year.' [My Emphasis]

A history of UN Resolution 2758 is here. The Outlaw US Empire did what it could to keep the ROC as China, but the world said otherwise. In the next paragraph, the editor declares:

"The US has turned itself into a complete political hooligan, which has been an eye-opener for the world."

But that behavior hasn't stopped since the UN's inception, and should have become an "eye-opener" many decades ago. For much more on that behavior, I highly suggest watching or reading the discussion Dr. Hudson has with the Moderate Rebels, which is just one composite of many similar "eye-openers" like Disaster Capitalism or Confessions of an Economic Hitman, just two of several hundred compilations. Back to the editorial which poses some basic questions:

"Assembly and various organizations affiliated to the UN, they complained many times. What did the US do back then? Chen Shui-bian, former regional leader of Taiwan, tried to push for the island's entry into the UN and asked to participate in various assemblies organized by UN-affiliated organizations. What did the US do? How come the US has suddenly realized it has misunderstood Resolution 2758 due to China's so-called misuse over recent years? There have been many US administrations since the Nixon administration, are they all too muddle-headed to understand a few lines in a UN resolution?"

The editor provides an answer to his question then elaborates on the fruitless nature of the Outlaw US Empire's attempt to deter China:

"The current US government is the most incapable and degenerate in the country's history. The US' national strength has greatly lost its relative advantage, so the cards of trade and human rights Washington plays to counter China have almost no effect at all. Meanwhile, the military deterrence from the Chinese mainland is also containing the Taiwan card the US plays. The US then has come to this cheap shot as a 'new weapon' to launch an alternative offensive against China.

"Washington's new move is very abrupt. The US is challenging the commonsense perceptions of the international community while pretending to be earnest and unbiased. This is the ultimate shamelessness. If it wants to pick on China, it should at least find a good excuse. But the US is challenging the entire world's understanding of a UN resolution passed 50 years ago, distorting the truth deliberately, and humiliating the world's memory and discernment.

"It is important to note that the US is not so powerful that whatever it says will be effectively enforced. Nor can it arbitrarily define UN resolutions that involve the core interests of other major powers. The vast majority of countries in the world clearly understand what the one-China principle is and whether the island of Taiwan is qualified to seek an equal presence with sovereign states in the UN. Although the US has influence, it can manipulate only some of its allies, not the UN.

"There is no way that the US can pull Taiwan into the UN, or any UN-affiliated organizations or agencies only a sovereign country is qualified to join. China and most peace-loving countries which stick to true rules will have enough strength to resist the shameless manipulation of the US and not let the US and Taiwan achieve their ulterior motives." [My Emphasis]

BidenCo is more "incapable and degenerate" than Trump, Obama, or BushCo? IMO, the editor's 100% correct that on this issue the Outlaw US Empire is confronting the world and it will fail miserably. Notice his framing that "peace-loving countries" will follow China's line and reject the Empire and its attempt to prompt a war. IMO, the editor must get more forceful in his truthful allegations aimed at the Empire:

"The US will become a historic sinner that further undermines world unity. But one thing is for sure: No matter how badly it tries, Taiwan will not be able to enter the UN. The bigger the farce the US makes, the more disgraceful it is." [My Emphasis]

For example, the bolded language above is too passive and must include the fact that the USA is an Outlaw nation of the worst sort and really doesn't belong in the UN. I'm really confounded by the fact that nations refuse to use the Outlaw US Empire's behavior to denounce it to the world, particularly Russia and China who are at the brunt of its accusations and many of its illegalities. Don't just describe reality halfway. Tell the world like it is, that the USA is an International Outlaw that must be arrested so peace can prevail on the planet.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2021 21:57 utc | 27

Thanks boon thanks James

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 24 2021 22:21 utc | 28

Biden becomes most disappointing American president since World War II, poll reveals

This was bound to happen. Biden has all the markings of a weak emperor.

Posted by: vk | Oct 24 2021 23:01 utc | 29

The status of Taiwan mostly effects . .the people that live there! And currently the status is "stateless" when these people travel. Imagine that! Who wants to be "stateless" when in another part of the world. They're aliens without official status. A man without a country. They're nobody, like aliens from another planet.

At home, officially the Republic of China, it gets more complex. They must be Chinese living in the ROC, and in fact most of them ethnically are Han Chinese, and they're all Chinese more than anything else, even the products of the fifty-year Japanese occupation. But some of them say they are "Taiwanese." which has no swagger at all. That's like: 'I am a Floridian.' . .So what. We're talking nations here.

Anyhow that's a long-winded way to say that one of the cards that Beijung will play is . .think about it, right now you're nobody internationally and you could be Chinese, with a passport. . .That's already on their minds in Taiwan, and is one reason why they are not participating in much preparation to defend Taiwan against the mainland. From an article in a recent SCMP article: Taiwan must fight stigma of military service if it’s to fend off invasion - Many young people on the island lack enthusiasm for military service - Taiwan’s active-duty military has shrunk to 165,000 from 275,000 three years ago . .here. . .plus all that US military/naval showmanship tell them that the US will fight a war if there is to be one.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2021 23:09 utc | 30

@ vk 29
Biden has all the markings of a weak emperor.

Who wants an emperor?

US Constitution: The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. The President is responsible for implementing and enforcing the laws written by Congress and, to that end, appoints the heads of the federal agencies, including the Cabinet. The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States. He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur.

That's what the president is supposed to do, but in the non-democratic US with a bought-and-paid for Congress, which has always had a lower approval then the president, citizens expect the resident to do more. Do what? Who knows, this is not a a democracy where the people govern through their representatives. Not by a long shot.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2021 23:24 utc | 31

Interesting video I found on Youtube just now:

Gravitas: Revealed: How Pfizer blackmails countries for [COVID-19] shots

I should add that the WION (World is One News) channel is based in India and has an anti-Chinese bias so the reporter constantly refers to the SARS-CoV-2 virus as the "Wuhan virus".

However even some mainstream news sources such as The Guardian and Al Jazeera have reported on Pfizer's heavy-handed bullying tactics and astonishing demands in its negotiations with countries like Argentina and Brazil wanting to buy Pfizer shots.

... But now there are also reports that mistreatment of developing nations is coming from pharmaceutical companies.

“Everyone we spoke to mentioned this one company [Pfizer] as the worst one to work with and the most bullish,” Davies said. “They said that Pfizer went even further – they asked them to put up their sovereign assets.”

Davies said Latin American countries were asked to put up federal bank reserves, embassy buildings or military bases as a guarantee against the cost of future legal cases stemming from unlikely adverse effects.

Under this arrangement, the government rather than the company would shoulder those legal costs.

“That was really shocking to me,” Davies said adding that this account was corroborated by multiple lawyers who said “this is not typical” and “is an abuse of power”...

Public Citizen also confirms the claims made in the WION video and provides PDF links to the contracts or draft contracts between Pfizer and various governments for the acquisition of Pfizer's COVID-19 mRNA shots.

Posted by: Jen | Oct 24 2021 23:30 utc | 32

Awhile ago there was a short discussion/debate about Russian ASW abilities. I suggest those interested read Martyanov's latest entry. Oh, and it stands as an excellent example of why basic math and calculus is crucial when it comes to warfare.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2021 23:33 utc | 33

Don Bacon @31--

You outline the basic reason why IMO it's 100% counter-productive to have the regulatory agencies within the executive despite its being charged with law enforcement.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2021 23:36 utc | 34

@ 33
from NATO
German Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer has been one of the most active backers of NATO's new master plan to counter Russia in case a military conflict breaks out between the sides. The strategy, which was agreed on Thursday, envisages the military alliance’s troops fighting Russian forces in the Baltic region and across the Black Sea, while also calling for non-conventional warfare, including nuclear weapons, cyber-attacks, and space military technology, to be employed.

from Reuters
NATO defence ministers agreed a new master plan on Thursday to defend against any potential Russian attack on multiple fronts, reaffirming the alliance's core goal of deterring Moscow despite a growing focus on China. The confidential strategy aims to prepare for any simultaneous attack in the Baltic and Black Sea regions that could include nuclear weapons, hacking of computer networks and assaults from space.

So the strategy is confidential, i.e. classified, as it should be (or has Putin seen it?). Kind of like the strategy for NATO to win in Afghanistan.

Posted by: d | Oct 24 2021 23:50 utc | 35

I found this interview quite interesting for its historical revelations and recollections, particularly having lived through that series of events:

"Interpreter recalls PRC delegation’s debut at UN Assembly in 1971 after restoration of lawful rights. In an exclusive interview with Global Times reporters Hu Yuwei and Zhao Juecheng (GT), Tang, who had served as an English interpreter for Chairman Mao Zedong and the PRC's first premier Zhou Enlai, recalled her experiences attending the 26th UNGA 50 years ago."

As you read, she's one of those unique insiders we never hear from. Ah, but this time it's different. An example:

"And so, on October 25, 1971, the "important issue" draft proposed by the United States which would require a 2/3 vote to expel a UN member was defeated and the No.2758 (XXVI) resolution titled 'Restoration of the lawful rights of the People's Republic of China in the United Nations' was adopted by a resounding majority of 76 in favor, 35 against, 17 abstaining and three absent. It was reported in the foreign press that upon its adoption, delegates laughed out loud, sang, shouted and pounded on the tables.

"When this news arrived in Beijing, most of us were taken by surprise but still overjoyed. I was standing behind Marshal Ye Jianying on the tarmac of the Beijing Capital Airport watching Dr. Kissinger's plane vanish into the clouds after his second visit to China (this time not secret), when someone rushed over to say that the Foreign Ministry had just received the news. Marshal Ye recalled that during the ride to the airport, Dr. Kissinger had mentioned that we would have to wait another year for that to happen." [My Emphasis]

That the Outlaw US Empire's efforts were so soundly defeated at a time when it had greater international control certainly caused jubilation given the destruction and death it was causing in Southeast Asia.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2021 23:51 utc | 36

@ karlof 34
it's 100% counter-productive to have the regulatory agencies within the executive
There are only three branches, and why is regulation not an executive function?

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2021 23:54 utc | 37

Don Bacon @37--

The executive is so easily corrupted. I suppose there isn't a good solution given the amazingly incredible levels of corruption aside from a complete rebooting of the culture to emphasize truth and morality above all else. Then we might actually see good governance.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 25 2021 0:12 utc | 38

For John Cleary or any other barfly with in depth knowledge of British history: Would you be so kind as to read and comment on this historical essay: "The Great Coup of 1916, 4: The Monday Night Cabal."

Thanks very much in advance!

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 25 2021 0:15 utc | 39

very interesting situation in N. Syria..

what do you think will be the outcome of this matter ?

Posted by: snake | Oct 25 2021 0:32 utc | 40

@29 Unfortunately that article doesn't say who is disappointed in Biden or why. Are they Trump voters who disliked Biden before he even started? People who think the US should still be in Afghanistan? People trying to get more immigrants across the border? People who want the police defunded?

Posted by: dh | Oct 25 2021 1:20 utc | 41

Thank you b for a feast of reading in the 'other issues' this week.

John Helmer has a couple of interesting pieces, leading with this from Marios Evriviades a resident of Cyprus. Evriviades is scathing in criticism of Pablo Escobar interview with Hasan Unal and takes his Asia Times report to task. There are some interesting asides here too:

What can one say about Hasan Unal? In a state where university professors are expelled, persecuted, imprisoned, exiled by the hundreds, even murdered, Unal lives and reigns in the city and is a co-worker of renowned journalists. He “excelled” as a Kemalo-careerist professor in Ankara. In his old age he went to Istanbul to devote himself, he says, to reading and to his students. Although he criticizes Erdogan’s Islamists – he accuses them of “losing” Egypt by giving it to the Greeks and Israelis – yet he keeps his immunity from Erdogan’s Islamists. What is the explanaion? It is because he is a kemalo-fascist and protégé of the Grey Wolves gang of Devlet Bahcheli, the fascist ally of Erdogan. In the script with Escobar the reader gets to understand the links there are between Unal, Bahcheli and Erdogan. All three are promoters of pan-Turkism.

But don't let the criticism of Escobar deter you as there are some interesting details within.

I was particularly intrigued by Helmer's lead cartoon of Putin and Peskov with an odd caption that could reference the story or in typical Helmer style reference some other current circumstance.

Then there is another expose on hapless author Catherine Belton (a protege of Rupert Murdoch) who's publisher is being sued in UK courts by more Russians than can fit into a Bentley. See here.

Computer programmes used in universities to detect student plagiarism, along with semantic, style, and cognitive tests, reveal that Putin’s People, a book published by HarperCollins and bylined Catherine Belton, has another author or authors.

Comparison testing of the vocabulary of Belton’s book and of transcripts of podcasts when Belton has been interviewed by Russia experts show that her vocabulary shrinks by more than half – 56.2% — when she is asked to explain her story to the experts. The testing also reveals that when requested for evidence and examples from her book, she hesitates, filling the gap with three phrases repeated many times over — “sort of”, “kind of”, “you know”.

The machine testing also reveals that Belton fails to pronounce the name of Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the Russian oligarch Belton met, interviewed and reported more than any other during her fourteen years in Moscow, with a linguistic consistency which the transcription programme recognised in more than 24% of her mentions. For three-quarters of the time Belton’s pronunciation of Khodorkovsky is transcribed by the programme as “Otto Karski”, “Photo Kowski”, and several other variants.

Lawsuits are currently underway in London’s High Court; these charge Belton and her book publisher, Rupert Murdoch’s HarperCollins, with fabricating facts and libelling the Russian oligarchs Roman Abramovich and Igor Sechin, and the Rosneft oil company, which Sechin runs.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 25 2021 1:25 utc | 42

karlof1@36, thank you, fabulously interesting time capsule. much gratitude for all you do: links, perspectives, avenues needing to be considered. maestro, thank you.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Oct 25 2021 1:48 utc | 43

Posted by Karlof1 @ 39

It looks like your information was originally taken from Professor Caroll Quigley, either 'Tragedy & Hope' and 'The Anglo American Establishment.' Either way I regard Quigley as very tame as WJ Clinton is reportedly a fan.

My information is that Asquith opposed diverting the army to the 'sideshow' in the Middle East as advised by his stalwart Chief of the Imperial General Staff, Sir William Robertson, it made no military sense.

Whereas Balfour, Lloyd George, Churchill et al were committed Zionists and wanted to divide the Ottoman Empire in order to amend the title deeds to Palestine, see below;

And the Arab natives who had been conned by British promises of independence? Lord Balfour wasn't talking through his top hat when he wrote:

"Do we mean, in the case of Syria, to consult principally the wishes of the inhabitants? We mean nothing of the kind... The contradiction between the letter of the Covenant and the policy of the Allies is even more flagrant in the case of the 'independent nation' of Palestine than in that of the 'independent nation' of Syria. For in Palestine we do not propose even to go through the form of consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants of the country... The Four Great Powers are committed to Zionism. And Zionism, be it right or wrong, good or bad, is rooted in age-long tradition, in present needs, in future hopes, of far profounder import than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land... In short, so far as Palestine is concerned, the Powers have made no statement of fact which is not admittedly wrong, and no declaration of policy which, at least in the letter, they have not always intended to violate."

(Quoted in David Hirst, The Gun & the Olive Branch: The Roots of Violence in the Middle East

A better account see Controversy of Zion, chapter 30, The Decisive Battle,

Posted by: Paul | Oct 25 2021 2:02 utc | 44

The cricket so called world Cup is going on in Dubai and before the start of the India versus Pakistan match last night the entire Indian team "took a knee" in support of, wait for it, Black Lives Marter in Amerikastan. The same Indian team is deafening in its silence about the crimes of the gibbering globetrotting genocidal Gujarati gangster government of Narendrabhai Damodardasbhai Modi: the Muslim labourers lynched, students jailed for "sedition" (looking an anti Modi Fakebook post is reason enough for imprisonment for sedition), protesting farmers run over by regime SUVs, Kashmiris
blinded with pellet guns and used as human shields, etc.

(Pakistan hammered India, by the way, absolutely steamrollered it. Excellent.)

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 25 2021 2:06 utc | 45



Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 25 2021 2:06 utc | 46

@ Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 25 2021 2:06 utc | 45

Rome's shadow is vast. You have to pay your respects to it, no matter where you are or from where you're from.

Posted by: vk | Oct 25 2021 2:14 utc | 47


gimme TSMC trade secrets now or else...


no worry man, i am always open for
my pardner, what are fren for eh ?

Posted by: denk | Oct 25 2021 2:18 utc | 48

@ BP 45
India (like the US) is called a "democracy" but the population of 1.3 billion includes several hundred million 'untouchable' dalit castes, and a couple hundred million Muslims who are are increasingly marginalized.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 25 2021 2:38 utc | 49

@ denk 48
China already beat em to it.
Aug 12, 2020
TAIPEI -- Two Chinese government-backed chip projects have together hired more than 100 veteran engineers and managers from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., the world's leading chipmaker, since last year, multiple sources have told the Nikkei Asian Review.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 25 2021 2:42 utc | 50

from Taipei
UN must not bow to PRC on Resolution 2758: MOFA
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA) yesterday urged the UN not to yield to China, stressing that UN Resolution 2758 does not say that the People’s Republic of China (PRC) can represent Taiwan.

from Washington
Beijing has inaccurately interpreted a UN resolution adopted in 1971 to exclude Taiwan from the international organization and its affiliates, a US Department of State official said on Thursday.
“The People’s Republic of China [PRC] has misused Resolution 2758 to prevent Taiwan’s meaningful participation,” said Rick Waters, deputy assistant secretary of state in the department’s Bureau of East Asia and Pacific Affairs, during a virtual talk hosted by the Washington-based German Marshall Fund.

Resolution 2758 (XXVI) - Oct 25, 1971
Recalling the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
Considering the restoration of the lawful rights of the People's Republic of China is essential both for the protection of the Charter of the United Nations and for the cause that the United Nations must serve under the Charter.
Recognizing that the representatives of the Government of the People's Republic of China are the only lawful representatives of China to the United Nations and that the People's Republic of China is one of the five permanent members of the Security Council.
Decides to restore all its rights to the People's Republic of China and to recognize the representatives of its Government as the only legitimate representatives of China to the United Nations, and to expel forthwith the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek from the place which they unlawfully occupy at the United Nations and in all the organizations related to it.

Notice that the US and Taipei usually (or always) say "UN" and not "united nations" b/c Taiwan is definitely not a nation.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 25 2021 2:57 utc | 51

Don Bacon 50

FUS is trying to force TSMC latest 5nm/3nm fab to US in order to control the chip supply chain.

Without govn backing, TSMC has already capitulated in trade data sharing.
Once you accede to FUS demand, there's no end to it, thats what they did to Toshiba in the 80, breaking jap dominance in chip tech over night.

What'r fren for eh ?

Posted by: denk | Oct 25 2021 3:38 utc | 52

publisher is being sued in UK courts by more Russians than can fit into a Bentley <-- When Fiat 600 was popular in Poland, a family could go for a camping vacation with four members plus all necessary equipment packed inside. And they could even breath! However, when you enter a Bentley, you instantly expect a considerable personal space, so I am truly lost, how many people can be "packed" inside. Two plus the driver?

(Pakistan hammered India, by the way, absolutely steamrollered it. Excellent.)

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 25 2021 2:06 utc | 45

A tragedy of democracy. A vast country where everybody understands how profoundly important cricket is, and yet they elect a government lacking cricket stars. Pakistani's have a better focus in the most essential matters.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 25 2021 3:55 utc | 53

very interesting situation in N. Syria..

Posted by: snake | Oct 25 2021 0:32 utc | 40

Quite uninteresting. Basically an Erdogan-hating article. The Israelis have had their claws into the Kurds (mainly Erbil, but evidently more) for years and years. The article isn't necessarily about Syria, more likely Turkey.

Posted by: Laguerre | Oct 25 2021 5:48 utc | 54

Why all PRC's neighbors are at risk: (CCP) communists have no national sense. Borders are just lines on maps between regional parts of the proletariat & bourgeoisie.
More in common with globalist MNC CEOs than any nation's nationalists.
National cultures are of little importance for them - see the "Cultural revolution": at most to attract tourists.

Posted by: Antonym | Oct 25 2021 6:01 utc | 55

Would you be so kind as to read and comment on this historical essay: "The Great Coup of 1916, 4: The Monday Night Cabal."

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 25 2021 0:15 utc | 39

The only thing about that article is its conspiratorial talk of coups, cabals, and Secret Elite. Stripped of the language, it's the standard way British conservative politics works. Thatcher was done in much the same way. In any case, if it was a coup, it didn't succeed, as Lloyd George was the winner. Lloyd George was no tool of a cabal, but a grand manipulator.

Posted by: Laguerre | Oct 25 2021 6:01 utc | 56

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 24 2021 15:28 utc | 9

These two twitter thread from 2021 and 2018 is a good place to start

Posted by: Hangar | Oct 25 2021 6:53 utc | 57

karlof1 @ 27, thanks so much for your examination of the UN situation with the US government making a fool of itself over the attempt to include Taiwan, not as part of China but on its own merits. As you say, the rest of the world can see what is going on here, and it shames this country.

That was a very helpful post, but I'd just like to remind you with respect to your final paragraph that the United States isn't just its government, so to suggest that it be indeed outlawed from the UN, deserved as that may seem, is a bridge too far. I don't think even Russia and China would want that to happen.

I am remembering some other outrageous suggestions being made at the UN, one, when Kruschev banged his shoe on the podium and shouted "We will bury you!", and another when George Bush created the fumes of hell as he strongarmed support for the invasion of Iraq. Both shameful occasions, but in a way both self-defeating. The strength of the UN is consensus, and sometimes it seems a weak way to do business. But shame is perhaps stronger than propaganda, especially when power is shifting, and a Titanic is listing...

I look forward to the day when a true representative of the American people returns to the UN. Maybe it'll be my two year old grandson; he's got the name for it: Theodore.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 25 2021 7:11 utc | 58

Even the NYT had to admit that PCR tests are useless for epi/pandemics, in 2007:

Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasn’t

Or same here:

Posted by: Antonym | Oct 25 2021 7:16 utc | 59

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 25 2021 1:25 utc | 42

The Helmer piece is amusing. Of course, Turks would like this sort of quid pro quo, so why not get the Greeks goat over it. After all, it was the Greeks who refused to reunite Cyprus via the Annan plan referendum, not the Turks. And it was the Europeans who rewarded the Greeks by admitting them into the EU, but not the Turkish Cypriots. The hypocrisy here is usual.

I do not think the Turks, even Unal, really thought the Russians would agree to something like this, but it does say a lot about the Greeks and their paranoia that they feel they cannot trust the Russians. Maybe a bit of projection, eh.

Posted by: Bluedotterel | Oct 25 2021 8:32 utc | 60

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 25 2021 1:25 utc | 42

I should also say that the two situations are not all that different, so the Crimea Cyprus reciprocal recognition are not unreasonable, so maybe that is what frightens the Greeks. After all, Crimea had long been a part of the Russian/USSR empire, while Cyprus had long been a part of the Ottoman empire.

If anything the Turks have a greater right to Cyprus than the Russians to Ukraine. The Cyprus convention, allowing the British to administer Cyprus while the Ottomans retained sovereignty, was broken by the British when they annexed Cyprus in WWI without Ottoman consent, of course. The USSR however, consented to give Crimea to the Ukraine.

In both cases, an intervention was required when the respective Russian and Turkish populations of the two countries were attacked and threatened with extermination. The Turks even had international law on their side through the Tripartite agreement with Britain, and Greece to conduct an intervention.

So, if anything, Turkish Cypriots have a greater right to be recognized as a separate nation state, than Crimea has to be recognized as a part of Russia. Turkey has not annexed the TRNC.

Posted by: Bluedotterel | Oct 25 2021 8:57 utc | 61

What a boondoggle for the beleaguered and under paid shareholders of Australia's Telstra, this telco $billion entity was originally paid for by the taxpayer and then 'sold' by the government, a monumental taxpayer rip off:

"Telstra’s $2.1b Digicel deal skirts the line between foreign policy and business
For about $360 million, Telstra is getting a mobile phone network stretching across six of Australia’s closest and most vulnerable neighbours. For $2.1 billion more, the Australian government is getting a strategic buffer against Beijing.

The $2.1 billion deal for Telstra to buy Digicel Pacific makes good commercial sense, chief executive Andy Penn says, and Trade and Investment Minister Dan Tehan agrees. Neither mentioned the government’s unstated objective of keeping the troubled South Pacific telco out of Chinese hands.

"The deal represents a totemic shift among Western nations that weaponises corporate power to counter China’s creeping influence in the region, economics editor John Kehoe writes. Chanticleer columnist James Thomson calls it the most extraordinary deal in a generation." [AFR]

Now the government throws taxpayer money at Telstra to keep the South Pacific Telco out of the hands of China.

What no 5 Eyes backdoors is the problem? It now seems the actual 'free market' is the problem.

Posted by: Paul | Oct 25 2021 9:36 utc | 62

Breaking: Multiple reports of an apparent coup in Sudan, just a day after Jeffrey Feltman, US Special Envoy for the Horn of Africa region, met with Gens. Hemedti and Burhan to urge committment to the civilian-led political transition.

A "civilian-led political transition" indeed! I would not trust a single word that comes out of Jeffrey Feltman's mouth - a fanatic and rabid Zionist - and former State Department head kicker in the Middle East.

What we don't see reported in the MSM is that the US is responsible for a decades old war that started in Dafur and expanded covertly to all of Sudan and her vast mineral resources, including petroleum, copper, gold, uranium, fertile plantation lands for sugar and gum Arabic (essential to Coke, Pepsi and Ben & Jerry’s ice cream).

The US covert war has revolved mainly around ‘humanitarian’ operations" that provided and still provides cover for clandestine destabilizing activities and interventions.

Posted by: Menz | Oct 25 2021 9:59 utc | 63

Posted by: Paul | Oct 25 2021 9:36 utc | 62

If only the Anglos were willing to openly admit their lack of respect for "free market principles", then no problem. Such an admission of course won't be forthcoming, just more rules for thee but not for me.

Posted by: J D | Oct 25 2021 10:37 utc | 64

Posted by: Menz | Oct 25 2021 9:59 utc | 63

Thanks for your postand welcome here, you have reminded me of something my old Palestinian friend told me years ago, 'gum Arabic', my friend was a food technologist. I'll look it up.

Additionally, you are right about the Sudan, it was low hanging fruit for the Zionists to divide according to the Yinnon Plan with US support, so the oil rich south could be separated from the Arab, Palestine supporting north.

Such criminal 'humanitarianism' is abounding.

Posted by: Paul | Oct 25 2021 10:42 utc | 65

Hello all. Interested in information on the Chinese social credit system. All sides accepted. So any links/personal experience/knowledge would be greatly appreciated. I ask for my son who has an interest, and what better place to find a multitude of oppinions and info that right here at my fave bar. Thanks in advance

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 24 2021 15:28 utc | 9

In January, Beijing passed laws seeking to ban all VPNs that are not approved by state regulators. Approved VPNs must use state network infrastructure.

In a statement on Sunday, an Apple spokeswoman confirmed it will remove apps that don’t comply with the law from its China App Store, including services based outside the country.


China’s Skynet Project finds people in minutes |
The whole test took only seven minutes.

A key component of the Skynet Project is a real-time pedestrian detection and recognition system, which can identify the age, gender and clothing of pedestrians through surveillance cameras on the streets. The technology can also identify vehicles.

In addition, the system can show the match level of an individual's image with specified personal information in the database on a real-time basis.


The whole test took only seven minutes.

A key component of the Skynet Project is a real-time pedestrian detection and recognition system, which can identify the age, gender and clothing of pedestrians through surveillance cameras on the streets. The technology can also identify vehicles.

In addition, the system can show the match level of an individual's image with specified personal information in the database on a real-time basis.

China's first intelligent security robot starts work at Shenzhen Airport
(People's Daily Online) 14:09, September 22, 2016
China's first intelligent security robot starts work at Shenzhen Airport
AnBot, China's first intelligent security robot, starts work at Shenzhen airport. (Photo/IC)
AnBot, the first intelligent robot in China trained to carry out security checks, recently started work at the Shenzhen airport. The robot will conduct around-the-clock independent patrol in the departure hall of Terminal 3.

Four high-definition digital cameras help the robot to effectively uphold civil aviation security and take advantage of its mobile face recognition. Images will be passed along to behind-the-scenes security stations, where they will be analyzed. The robot is designed with four major capabilities: independent patrol, face recognition, intelligent service and emergency response.


Police and epidemic control units in China can now screen out potential coronavirus carriers with the help of futuristic-looking smart helmets. Shenzhen-based Kuang-Chi Technology introduced police smart helmets that can quickly measure body temperature in crowds. The infrared cameras attached to the N901 helmets enable wearers to measure temperature from up to five meters away. They can scan QR codes and have facial recognition, according to the company.

In addition to including AR glasses, the helmets are also equipped with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and 5G connectivity, the company said when it introduced the product last November. The helmets are already being used in Shanghai and some other Chinese cities. The company says its helmets are light, too, thanks to its specially engineered metamaterials that it’s been developing with the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology


China is ahead in 5G tech because they realised early on that 4G simply couldn't handle all the simultaneous data streams required to carry all that real-time full-spectrum citizen-surveillance data they were planning back then and have now put in place. So China decided they needed to develop higher-bandwidth systems hence 5G.

Posted by: Triden | Oct 25 2021 10:51 utc | 66

Problem solving brainstorm: Exchange willing populations of Cuba and Taiwan This places friendly giants near each island, and relieves Taiwan’s population problem.

Posted by: nurse.comic | Oct 25 2021 11:40 utc | 67

@ Posted by: Antonym | Oct 25 2021 6:01 utc | 55

Sure thing dude. I'm sure today's India is identical to Ancient India. English is actually an ancient Indian language, for sure...

Also, there are ancient inscriptions that prove Bollywood is more than 2,000 years old, that Pryianka Chopra is a traditional Indian musician, that cricket is actually an ancient Indian sport (they played a game against Alexander the Great once), etc. etc.

By the way, speaking of cultural extermination, I think the European should abolish Christianity and adopt Greco-Roman religion. Christianism is an Asiatic (Semitic) cultural colonization, spread by a network of underground propagandists (euphemistically called "proselytizers") throughout the Roman Empire. They usurped the Roman State after it fell during the Crisis of the Third Century.

Posted by: vk | Oct 25 2021 11:49 utc | 68


Good point! Well - in the Canadian political class, the big dogs are running. So what? Canada is not the US or Europe; plenty of political machinations happen outside public view. These guys have no need to reveal themselves to open scrutiny. And when they do so, it tends to be because of either an election or because of an issue that threatens the continent of North America and/or the Anglosphere. It appears to be the latter. The topic is inflation and monetary policy.

First, there was John Manley, whose interview I posted in a previous thread and will repost here:

Former PM’s Conservative Brian Mulroney and Liberal Jean Chrétien:

Finally, today we have two advisors to the above mentioned corner PMs giving an interview. I’d suggest that they key messages start at about 9 minutes in.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 25 2021 11:49 utc | 69

@ Posted by: nurse.comic | Oct 25 2021 11:40 utc | 67

And people say the Cold War isn't back.

Posted by: vk | Oct 25 2021 11:50 utc | 70

karlof1 39 Ask us to read and comment on the linked historical essay:
"The Great Coup of 1916, 4: The Monday Night Cabal."

I want to thank karlof1 for the link to The Monday Night Cabal. It links the Bolshevik [<= Acknowledges a person's membership ie Russian Social-Democratic Workers' Party led by Vladimir Lenin] Revolution came about[<= the BR overthrew and murdered the centuries old Prussian [Hitler was Prussian] Czar Christian management of the Russian government.
The BR murdered 32 million Christians, was conducted from NYC (contributions by extremely wealthy persons ae group of 192 persons who journeyed from NYC through Canada into October Russia to take possession and control oe important Bolshevik government positions) and London and Switzerland. The Great coup of 1916, gives exposes new names, players, exposes hidden intrigue and clandestine private actor intent, and provides a welcome confirmation to explain the known transport of people and the money<= elsewhere known to help explain the external support of the 1917 Bolshevik revolution in Russia.
There is just too much to add more to this post. But thanks Karlov1.

Posted by: snake | Oct 25 2021 12:21 utc | 71

Here’s an interesting exercise. Go to Scroll down, down until the World section. Then click on “Russia and Israel seek to strengthen dialogue, commercial ties”

When I do this, the article appears on the left half of my screen with the next article on the right half of my screen. So you have a photo of President Putin and PM Bennett on the left side. And a photo of President Ivan Duque shaking hands with SoS Blinken on the right side. The following article is “Blinken’s visit to Columbia is part of an assault on Venezuela” Coincidence?

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 25 2021 12:46 utc | 72

@triden 66

china pushing 5G is not about surveillance per se. that sounds like the whole 'china authoritarian' narrative.

surveillance is just one feature enabled by the platform. and china's protection of data privacy and regulation of corporate data mining is more robust then the US’, in which google is basically part of the state surveillance apparatus.

the main impetus for china's 5G is to get on the next industrial revolution, with all that entails for upgrades in productivity and national strength. it also dovetails with the connectivity that is at the heart of thr BRI vision

Posted by: mastameta | Oct 25 2021 13:10 utc | 73

80% of housing and communal services enterprises still use technologies from the times of the USSR

What will happen to the Russian Federation when the remaining Soviet infrastructure is gone? They surely won't build another one because of capitalism's law of the tendency of the profit rate to fall, which states that labor power (i.e. people, workers) devalue over time, thus making investment in stuff that helps the Average Joe unprofitable.

That's why I think Putin is a transition leader. Yeltsin was more transitory than him, but that doesn't make him not transitory. Transitions in History may spam through many leaders.


Yesterday's was Orjonikidze's 135 anniversary:

[PHOTO GALLERY] "Straight, firm, courageous": 135 years ago, Grigory Ordzhonikidze was born


I know what you're thinking, American. Sorry, you're wrong - here's why (recommended read of the day):

Stocks, profit margins and the economy

Posted by: vk | Oct 25 2021 14:03 utc | 74

Been on both sides of the strait of Taiwan since late 80s......if you want to see what taiwan has become just look up Kimberly Chan's new music video....(maybe watch her older ones?)

When taiwan is losing population. Supporting lgbt. Broke if not for a couple of exports........ With properties inflated by fake money. I wonder is kimberly or namewee going to really fight for Taiwan? What you are watching is a slow color revolution.....

What the empire doesnt realize is they achieved their own fears of domino effect. Dont worry about taiwan or this silly girl, no one will fight for taiwan other than sing a song or two and hope for a color revolution. What is important is if they really think people will fight for these clowns, Korea will unite immediately by war as well.

And that means guam. Midway. Oki. Australia will unite in eating radioactive sushi together.

Posted by: Jason | Oct 25 2021 14:24 utc | 75

Why all PRC's neighbors are at risk: (CCP) communists have no national sense. Borders are just lines on maps between regional parts of the proletariat & bourgeoisie. More in common with globalist MNC CEOs than any nation's nationalists.

There's no putting globalization back in the bag. Nor would that be desirable. You can either get local autonomy through an international proletarian dictatorship, or let your nationalist leaders swindle you all the way to the one world government they'll be privileged members of no matter what.

Posted by: fnord | Oct 25 2021 14:51 utc | 76

Thanks for the replies to my request for comments on the 1916 Coup. I'd like to get further input. Here again is the article. Thanks much in advance!

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 25 2021 16:52 utc | 77

File under "oh-so convenient"

It appears that the speculation that Jan. 6th "insurrection" was stage-managed is become more certain.

'Fed-Protected' Man Identified As Mystery Instigator Of J6 Capitol Breach

The populist conservative Movement has been claiming for a long time that the Deep State supports the Democratic Party. Sometimes they also mention Republican 'moderates' a part of that unholy alliance.

If evidence emerges (as appears to be occurring now) that Jan 6th protesters were set-up, it will give a big boast to the 'populist conservatives' (aka pro-Trumpers).

Once again: IMO the coming move to the right is not happenstance. It is orchestrated.

PS re-posted from "Some Musings On Wokeness" Thread, which has pretty much run its course.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 25 2021 16:57 utc | 78

@ Triden | Oct 25 2021 10:51 utc | 66... thanks.. that is interesting..

@ mastameta | Oct 25 2021 13:10 utc | 73.. i never read triden post as you imply in your first line.. i read it more like what you conclude later in your post..

@ Jason | Oct 25 2021 14:24 utc | 75.. interesting comment.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Oct 25 2021 17:00 utc | 79

Why all PRC's neighbors are at risk: (CCP) communists have no national sense. Borders are just lines on maps between regional parts of the proletariat & bourgeoisie.
More in common with globalist MNC CEOs than any nation's nationalists.
National cultures are of little importance for them - see the "Cultural revolution": at most to attract tourists.

What brand of Kool-Aid did you drink??



Posted by: George W Oprisko | Oct 25 2021 17:09 utc | 80

IMO, this is an extremely important article, "The US is turning the heat up in tech war with China by trying to control the entire global supply of computer chips", and puts a whole new twist on the Taiwan issue that exposes the real issues involved, which have zero, zip, nada to do with Taiwan independence as it's clearly a slave to the Outlaw US Empire.

The following explains the crux of the issue:

"America’s latest move to try to contain Beijing is to weaponise an entire industry. By leveraging its patents and licences for semiconductor manufacture, it is attempting to deny China access to crucial technology.

"Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp (TSMC) is the world’s leading chip manufacturer and the shining star of the island’s economy. But it has a problem – it’s located right in the middle of one of the world’s geopolitical flashpoints, with the future of Taiwan itself at the heart of that.

"Geography and access to markets matter, of course, and one of its main customers is the very nation sitting on the other side of the strait, China. But its biggest provider of patents in the supply-chain process is the United States, which now appears to be determined to forcibly weaponise the entire industry for its own political gain against Beijing.

"The Biden administration is demanding that TSMC hand over sensitive data on all of its customers to the US government, for the unstated yet obvious reason that it wants to see who in China the firm is selling to.

"It’s a blatant coercive violation of national sovereignty and corporate privacy, but Taiwan has absolutely no leverage over the US, because politically it has aligned itself completely with Washington. America has effectively learned it can leverage the entire semiconductor supply chain to do what it wants, with an eye to global domination of it.

"And so it was no surprise when it was widely reported in late October that TSMC is prepared to capitulate and agree to the move, which speaks volumes about the environment we are now in.

"The semiconductor has emerged as one of the most strategic commodities in the world, or least that’s how Washington sees it. These tiny components are required to power high-end technology and military devices – a crucial factor in the global balance of power." [My Emphasis]

The USA did a similar thing to Japan in the late 1930s-early 1940s to Japan over petroleum and its products which led to the Pacific Theatre of WW2. IMO, this is every bit as crucial, although any embargo China can defeat by brainpower and engineering, which it's already attempting. With its actions finally coming to global public attention, the world can now gain a better appreciation of the Outlaw US Empire's despicable nature and the need to make it obey its own and international law.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 25 2021 17:16 utc | 81

This China update written at The Saker blog is highly recommended as this excerpt shows:

"What is the difference between Putin’s Optimistic Reasonable Conservatism and Xi’s Human Community with a Shared Future and moderately prosperous society? I cannot see too big of a difference as the qualitative values expressed are similar although the civilizational socialization is different. As Putin expressed his non-acceptance of woke ‘values’ in his Valdai speech, so China in the last few months took real action. They threw the feminine men out of their television programs. The feminine men is an inheritance from Japan to a lesser degree and Korea, to a larger degree. China does not want girly men to become role models for their children. They pulled the rug out from underneath expensive additional schools, acting as funnels to expensive university programs, and tutoring that basically burdened the Chinese children. They have strengthened the Chinese schools to offer all additional education necessary, in order to have consistent educational standards. They simply stopped computer games for younger children and limited this to no more than 3 hours per week. They increased physical programs and education to get the kids out and about with healthy activities. And in stark contrast to the western sphere who wants to control the kids, China just put the responsibility by law, properly and correctly in the parents’ hands. 'On Saturday, the National People’s Congress Standing Committee adopted a new law stating that China’s parents are responsible for family education.'" [Emphasis Original]

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 25 2021 17:41 utc | 82

@Posted by: Antonym | Oct 25 2021 6:01 utc | 55

"Why all PRC's neighbors are at risk: (CCP) communists have no national sense. Borders are just lines on maps between regional parts of the proletariat & bourgeoisie.
More in common with globalist MNC CEOs than any nation's nationalists.
National cultures are of little importance for them - see the "Cultural revolution": at most to attract tourists."

This has to be one of the most absurd comments that I have read on this blog.

@Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 25 2021 16:57 utc | 78

It looks more to me that we have a fight between class fractions (The Dems and "moderate" Repubs being the elite globalists, Trump representing the more nationally oriented fossil fuel, real estate etc. interests). The Capitol set up looks like the classic FBI entrapment attempt (their fingers are all over so many other "domestic terrorist" incidents) but the sheep didn't properly act their part, taking selfies rather than shooting cops and politicians. If they had properly carried out their role, the wave of MSM/Deep State/Establishment condemnation and propaganda spewing would have allowed for the cover up of the FBI sheep dog, but instead the truth is slowly dripping out. Unlike the burying of all the inconsistencies from the 1993 Twin Towers bombing, to Waco, to the Alfred P. Murray building, to 9/11 etc.

With open bribery of politicians now being legal, it is easy for part fo the rich to forestall any legislation they find objectionable - blocking any Roosevelt-type "grand bargain", as we are seeing right now with the Sinema Judas. As others have noted, there are many such Judas's waiting in the wings to be bribed if needed (i.e. if the Dems had a bigger majority). With the grand-bargain blocked the only other way is authoritarianism, as we are seeing - the Dems Inverted Totalitarianism (see Wolin) or the populist/fascist Trump (or some other more competent personality) project. That's the only two options open for the US, any hint of social democracy was thrown away by the Dems in the 1970s and 1980s (when Carter beat Kennedy and national health care was defeated) and then buried deep by Clinton.

What does stun me is the sheer incompetence if he US elite, on both sides. "Failing up" (i.e. "failing" at a given task whole serving elite interests), ideological alignment, and ass licking now seem to be the only qualification for getting to the top (Kamala being the perfect example, also Blinken and his brain-dead coterie). Feels a lot like the wasting Communist elite of the USSR, with Trump and Biden filling the role of the old codgers vying for who will die/lose his mind in office. All we are waiting for is a Gorbachev to really get the downhill turn going.

@Posted by: vk | Oct 25 2021 14:03 utc | 74

Yep, Yeltsin helped destroy and Putin just stabilized with the help of high fossil fuel prices. I see Russia as the China's Mexico, in the next ten years it becomes the site of Chinese factories as its wages fall far behind China (in US$ then PPP terms) while its workforce is well educated. China needs a stable Russia on its northern borders, as well as helping to keep stable Central Asia and playing the honest broker with India. Also, as a major supplier of fossil fuels, food and natural resources, and transport networks that cannot be interdicted by the West. I cannot see the Chinese being stupid enough to throw away the wonderful gift that the idiot West gave to them.

Posted by: Roger | Oct 25 2021 17:57 utc | 83

Xi Jinping's speech on the 50th anniversary of entry to United Nations via UN Resolution 2758. His preamble:

"Fifty years ago today, the 26th Session of the General Assembly of the United Nations adopted, with an overwhelming majority, Resolution 2758, and the decision was made to restore all rights of the People's Republic of China in the United Nations and to recognize the representatives of the Government of the People's Republic of China as the only legitimate representatives of China to the United Nations. It was a victory for the Chinese people and a victory for people of the world.

"Today, on this special date, we are here to review the past history and look to the future, and that makes our gathering all the more significant.

"The restoration of New China's lawful seat in the United Nations was a momentous event for the world and the United Nations. It came as the result of joint efforts of all peace-loving countries that stood up for justice in the world. It marked the return of the Chinese people, or one-fourth of the world's population, back to the UN stage. The importance was significant and far-reaching for both China and the wider world.

"On this occasion, I wish to express, on behalf of the Chinese government and the Chinese people, heartfelt gratitude to all countries that co-sponsored and supported UN General Assembly Resolution 2758, and to pay high tribute to all countries and people that stand on the side of justice." [My Emphasis]

While reading Xi's words, you'll see how he places China on the side of Humanity and creates a gap between China and Humanity on one side with unnamed forces attempting to deter their progress on the other--a point I've been trying to make over my years of commenting--there are the Anti-human Outlaws versus humanity and those aiming to complete FDR's WW2 aim of establishing the Four Freedoms. No POTUS could ever make Xi's speech as the words would all be lies. Xi's concluding remarks:

"A review of the past can light the way forward. Standing at a new historical starting point, China will stay committed to the path of peaceful development and always be a builder of world peace. China will stay committed to the path of reform and opening-up and always be a contributor to global development. China will stay committed to the path of multilateralism and always be a defender of the international order.

"As an ancient Chinese poem reads, 'Green hills immerse in the same cloud and rain. The same moon lights up towns however far away.' Let us join hands, stand on the right side of history and the side of human progress, and work tirelessly for the lasting and peaceful development of the world and for building a community with a shared future for mankind!" [My Emphasis]

People need to raise their voices and ask why the Outlaw US Empire is against "building a community with a shared future for mankind" for that's precisely what its been trying to prevent since WW2's end. As we look back at history, it becomes clear that the tide turned 50 years ago with PRC's inclusion into the UN and particularly the UNSC. The time of keeping a low profile espoused by Deng has now ended with Xi projecting China as the world leader it ought to be. And the stakes outlined above and articulated by Xi in his speech are what this so-called New Cold War is all about. It's about finally doing away with Colonialism and its kin Feudalism and levelling the global geopolitical situation to what was aimed at in 1945.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 25 2021 18:07 utc | 84

@Roger 83 "I see Russia as the China's Mexico"

More like China's Canada. A reliable and strategically important neighbor with a much smaller (1/10 in each case) population that is a cold and somewhat expensive place to do business but provides energy and other commodities, and has pockets of technology excellence (such as aerospace) where cooperation makes sense. I see China wanting to locate high end R&D facilities and design houses in Russia to take advantage of Russian smarts. Probably some commodity processing factories as well since land and energy are relatively cheap.

China has all of ASEAN to draw upon for low wages and moderate skill. Perhaps India too, if they want to play ball. Their companies will be competing in Russia against Germany and other EU countries and the US, and eventually probably India.

By implementing collective security Russia will be able to devote more resources to her populace, especially now that the less productive (in some cases, parasitic) borderlands have been offloaded, and raise their overall standard of living to at least average European standards (they currently fall short by about 30% using PPP). There is nothing but win-win in maintaining a friendly relationship.

Posted by: Billb | Oct 25 2021 18:56 utc | 85

Roger @Oct25 17:57 #83

Perhaps you missed my earlier comments that make the case that the Left's failures - largely via over-reaching (alienating conservatives) and over-promising (alienating progressives) - are too numerous to be anything but deliberate.

In that context, the FBI setting up the Jan 6 protestors is not really to crush the movement as it is to boost it as "the truth" is later revealed.

People will forget Trump's claims of a "stolen election" (I'm not saying that it was or wasn't) and focus on the Left's crackdown on peaceful protest and free speech.

Media-hyped hyper-partisanship creates a smokescreen for political manipulation.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 25 2021 19:00 utc | 86

Thanks, mustameta @17. And thanks to karlof1 for excerpts from Xi's UN address.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 25 2021 20:04 utc | 87

Sorry, correction - that was mastameta @ 73, correcting the information on China's 5G program; thanks.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 25 2021 20:06 utc | 88

For those that prefer the source rather than the cut and paste idiocy at zh.

revolver has the full report of the FBI provocateur leading the Jan 6 visit to the Capitol Building.

Here is detail that you don't read at zh:

If you want to see what this walking philosophical paradox looks like in action, here’s a clip of Epps patrolling the very front police lines of the Capitol’s Western Plaza at approximately 3:15 p.m at the height of the day’s mania — nearly two and a half hours after Epps and his “breach team” appeared to coordinate the toppling of the Capitol’s East-side police barricades. This was also nearly a full hour after the US Capitol building itself had already been breached. With Epps’s stated mission of breaching the Capitol accomplished, and hundreds of Trump supporters already inside, Epps’s mission magically switched to calming the crowd down, assuring them “We already made our point,” and ensuring that no more of his apparently fellow officers got hurt that afternoon:

The FBI and its deep state agenda is unhappy that this provocateur planted in the maga crowd has been outed. The US real left has been outing him consistently since the 6 January although you might miss that if you get sidetracked to the zh piece. Epps was already on the infiltrator list of the left well before 6 January.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 25 2021 20:31 utc | 89

Michael Hudson's posted another recent interview on his website, "The Tight Fist of Special Interests", dealing with Outlaw US Empire's domestic politics. Here's Michael's description of the Empire's governmental system:

"So in order to get the Democratic National Committee to designate you as a candidate, you have to outpoll all of your rivals and who can get the most money from the special corporate interests that you are committed to represent. So what you have in the situation in Congress and politics is very different from what you would have in law. If this were a court case to decide what policy they have, if a judge owned stock in a huge coal company, he would have to recuse himself from writing that. But in Democratic politics, the reason that Manchin wouldn’t recuse himself and the recipients of pharmaceutical money won’t recuse themselves is that’s why they get the money because they don’t have it.

Paul Jay

"The thing is, if senators had to recuse themselves because of conflict of interest, you might have only three or four senators left to vote on anything.

Michael Hudson

"That’s the problem right there. So the question is, do we live in a democracy, or do we live in an oligarchy? We live in an oligarchy where it’s sort of pay-to-play, and the largest campaign contributors get to designate who are going to write the laws in their own interest. So that’s what’s paralyzing Biden’s plan. The problem is if you have politicians elected by who can raise the most money from the special interests, how on earth can they get voters to vote for them?

"Well, the job of a politician is to deliver a given segment of voters to the campaign contributors so that they can win over other politicians who don’t get the money from these campaign contributors because they wouldn’t give them all of the special interest favours that politicians are able to get them. So corruption— this used to be considered corruption, but now it’s built into the system as part of the basic system. And that’s not how democracies are supposed to work. [My Emphasis]

Well, none of that's really surprising to barflies. Here's Hudson on why Biden's domestic fix-it plan won't get enacted:

"So that’s the whole problem: short-termism and long-termism. So Biden’s program, it’s as if it’s a party platform. His three and a half trillion dollar program that remember began as a six and a half trillion dollar program and is way down. The party platform isn’t really what’s achievable. So now you bring in Manchin.

"Well, I think Bernie Sanders made a very good point the other day. He said, well, look what we have right now in the Senate is 48 senators in favour of it. Two against it. When you have 48 to 2, you don’t compromise 50/50. And yet, that’s what they want. They want 50/50. They want no climate controls. They don’t even want to close the loophole on carried interest, which is a huge financial giveaway to Wall Street. And they don’t even want, the senators who receive pharmaceutical funding won’t even let Medicare bargain over drug prices with the pharmaceutical companies. So obviously, there’s no way in which the corporate special interests are going to ally themselves with the Democratic voters. And what can Biden say?

"All he can say is, well, we can go to the people and say, well, I’m sorry, we have these two senators. We don’t have a big enough majority to win. But let’s say he gets an even bigger Senate majority. The question, then they’ll get seven senators, ten senators playing the role of five. The Democratic Party has a whole slew of senators just waiting in line between Sinema and Manchin to block really any kind of serious agenda that would serve the overall economy, help serve the world avoid global warming, but will not make money for the companies that are making money on the fact that they’re polluting the atmosphere." [My Emphasis]

In so many ways, we're having a repeat of the Catfood Commission, which deals with the fact that Ds aren't Ds at all but Rs wearing donkey heads--what was the moniker of that troll? If Hudson and Sanders can see what's happening, then a whole slew of voters can too. Continuing, we get to the main accusation against Biden:

"Biden has made sure to take steps to make sure that there’s no way in which his program can possibly be accepted. He’s killed it at the beginning by appointing special lobbyists in charge of the Democratic National Committee. So he said, look, let me go to the people. I can have this wonderful program, but I’ve made sure that I’ve put the controllers in the Democratic National Committee so that nothing in my program will ever be done. That’s the trick in the full game." [My Emphasis]

As I wrote above, it's the Catfood Commission all over again. But it's not just D voters that need help; it's all voters, and IMO that's the big pitfall Ds will face in 2022. After dealing with the irrationality of capitalism and its current dysfunction, Hudson makes this very powerful statement that should be read within the context of current geopolitics:

"So this assumption that whatever the market produces is rational and functional is the bedrock of Western economies. And it’s wrong. And it negates the fact that you really need some government power strong enough to override the special interests. And that takes a very strong government, which is why the free market people have always opposed strong government and why their economic models don’t give any acknowledgement for government investment in infrastructure that Biden wants or any government activity that is able to override that of the rentier class, the financial class, the property-owning class and the corporate monopolists. That’s the problem we have. [My Emphasis]

It ought to be very clear that the domestic situation within the Outlaw US Empire is decidedly Anti-people, Anti-Human, Anti-Development--Pro-Profits only, and only short term profits at that. It's 100% dysfunctional for ALL voters, well excepting those who are profiting from the current dysfunction. And the obvious question is the one Paul Jay asks next:

"So, what should people do about it?"

Hudson extrapolates on his answer but it all boils down to this one sentence:

"I don’t see how it [the political-economy] can be changed without a change in the system [lock, stock, and barrel--structure and the laws underpinning it all]."

Which as he's said before given the reality within the Outlaw US Empire now requires a revolution. IMO, Hudson is absolutely correct in essentially saying Biden is an R at heart and enabling the radical arm of the Rs, and that the only genuinely Pro-People Ds are what're derisively called The Squad, even here by many who don't know any better. Paul Jay then advocates for resurrecting what never really existed--A Countervailing Power based on Unions-- not that he's wrong about the need, which is an absolute must. Jay isn't completely naïve:

"From what I’ve seen, if there was a real increase in the number of people that vote, you actually probably could overcome at least much of the gerrymandering. But you’d have to have a really massive increase. There would have to be a real serious campaign to register poor people who, to a large extent, have given up on elections. [My Emphasis]

And just where's the activism going to come to power such a movement? And as we're discussing, those new voters need to vote for non-Duopoly candidates as Ds and Rs are essentially one and the same and IMO the vast majority know that. And that's the basis many of us use to justify our reasoning that what must be accomplished change-wise cannot be done via electoral politics within our current oligarchy. I wrote this before reading what Hudson said next:

"Here’s the problem. The Democratic leaders and local leaders of the States which are in charge of redistricting are almost all actually Republicans." [My Emphasis]

Hudson reviews yet again why he arrives at this conclusion:

"[I]t would take a political revolution, or at least it would take a new Constitution to do it [Alter the electoral and representational systems].

"The problems are now inherent in the Constitution, as are implemented by the Supreme Court justices who are in place, and they’re going to be in place for quite a long time. So we have a constitutional problem, just like Rome had a constitutional problem. Where you couldn’t have any reform by Julius Caesar or the other reformers, that’s the problem we have today. We’re stuck, and we’re unable to act. And this is what is letting other countries pull ahead of us that don’t have this paralysis problem that America now has politically." [My Emphasis]

And so we see Hudson framing the constitutional problem as being a Patriotic problem too. IMO, that's the right tactic to use to get the fed-up voting base to act together for instilling such change is for We the People's benefit, which is why Trump's MAGA got the backing it did even though he didn't really do anything to implement his program. The program was all domestic, no mention of China or Russia, although Europe and the Romans did get some notice.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 25 2021 20:33 utc | 90

@ karlof 90
Hudson: So the question is, do we live in a democracy, or do we live in an oligarchy?

The answer is obvious (oligarchy) and the situation is nothing new.
. . .from a 2014 BBC opinion piece:

Analyses of U.S. politics centered on economic elites go back at least to Charles Beard, who maintained that a chief aim of the framers of the U.S. Constitution was to protect private property, favoring the economic interests of wealthy merchants and plantation owners rather than the interests of the then-majority small farmers, laborers, and craft workers. A landmark work in this tradition is G. William Domhoff’s detailed account of how elites (working through foundations, think-tanks, and an “opinion-shaping apparatus,” as well as through the lobbyists and politicians they finance) may dominate key issues in U.S. policy making despite the existence of democratic elections. . .here

And so we have a huge military that domestically brings dollars into states with military bases, and into countries with bases where the dollars must be used to buy treasury bonds. Also we have expensive military junk acquisition programs like the F-35 "fighter." It's a jobs program for Lockheed-Martin which goes into many states where the F-35 mistake-jet's 50,000 parts are manufactured with part of the profits going to elected congressional "representatives." Congressional fat-cats have recently demanded that more untested, crappy F-35's be budgeted for that even the Pentagon doesn't want! Wow, the Pentagon doesn't want them. . . .It's all about the money!
...from Lockheed
Powering Job Creation for America and its Allies
The F-35 is delivering more than just air dominance[sic], it's simultaneously delivering tens of thousands of high paying, high quality jobs to American workers across the country, and around the world.
According to standard industry accepted economic forecasting, the F-35 is responsible for more than 254,000+ direct and indirect U.S. jobs.
Equally impressive to the program's job creation prowess is the sheer size of its economic footprint. The Lockheed Martin F-35 program teams with nearly 1,800 domestic suppliers in 45 states and Puerto Rico to produce thousands of components from highly sophisticated radar sensors to the aircraft's mid fuselage. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 25 2021 21:25 utc | 91

A follow on comment from the revolver story linked at #89 above. Given the inexorable rise of the right wing militia based state in the USA, one must anticipate that the extent of FBI manipulation and mobilisation of the citizenry is matched by the same level of ideological activity within the military only 'managed' by different means given the culture.

The closing paragraphs of the revolver report are challenging especially after considering the highly detailed content. One must ask how the USA can recover its sanity and governance given the extent of the embedded right wing managed nation. Here are the closing paragraphs but I do urge barflies to read this very long report.

And yet, tying it all back to AG Merrick Garland, it all makes sense. The 1/6 prosecutions are not the first time Garland oversaw high profile militia prosecutions from a lofty perch in the DOJ. More specifically, Merrick Garland oversaw the Oklahoma City Bombing prosecutions, which are riddled with so many disturbing unanswered questions that it would be outside the scope of this report to address them. Suffice it to say here that Merrick Garland was the top domestic extremism prosecutor for the Justice Department, who worked with the FBI on several key right-wing militia cases, right as the Justice Department was kicking its militia infiltration operations into high gear. The first such infiltration operation was known formally as “Patcon”:

Starting in April 1991, three FBI agents posed as members of an invented racist militia group called the Veterans Aryan Movement. According to their cover story, VAM members robbed armored cars, using the proceeds to buy weapons and support racist extremism. The lead agent was a Vietnam veteran with a background in narcotics, using the alias Dave Rossi.

Code-named PATCON, for “Patriot-conspiracy,” the investigation would last more than two years, crossing state and organizational lines in search of intelligence on the so-called Patriot movement, the label applied to a wildly diverse collection of racist, ultra-libertarian, right-wing and/or pro-gun activists and extremists who, over the years, have found common cause in their suspicion and fear of the federal government.

It is interesting to note that the Feds’ lead agent was a military man and Vietnam vet, especially given Epps’ similar pedigree. A careful study of the history of Fed infiltration into militia groups reveals a pattern of using ex-military personnel to conduct such operations.

What’s still more interesting, however, is how mainstream “domestic extremism” expert JM Berger describes the nature of the PatCon operations, and associated infiltration operations in the 90s that would have taken place under Merrick Garland’s tutelage:

In 1990, the FBI began picking up on rumors about an effort to reconstitute a notorious terrorist-criminal gang known as The Order.

To prevent the rise of a “Second Order,” FBI undercover agents would become it.

Very interesting. To prevent the rise of a dangerous domestic terrorist group, the FBI would have to become one, hence the establishment of the honey-pot militia organization “Veterans Aryan Movement” and dozens of other spin-off honeypot Fed militia groups.

Given the damning evidence in this and previous Revolver reports, there is increasingly little doubt that key agencies in the federal government — and key figures such as AG Merrick Garland — take the same approach to infiltration operations today as they did in the 90s. In order to defeat the boogeyman of right-wing “patriot” militia groups, the government has to become them. In order to preempt the fictional possibility of a right-wing insurrection, then, we might say the feds had to become that insurrection.

In light of the overwhelming weight of evidence, this damning conclusion seems unavoidable. We don’t expect a straight answer from AG Garland or FBI Director Wray on this matter just yet, and neither should you. Such answers only come with sufficient pressure, and such pressure only arises from repeated exposure.

If the USA is this deranged at home then one can see how vulnerable the planet is to this terrorist mindset when it is let loose on the rest of the world. No wonder other major nations are slowly awakening ... well I hope they are.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 25 2021 21:40 utc | 92

Posted by: John Cleary | Oct 24 2021 19:42 utc | 19

Are you sure it is not the other way around :)

Posted by: Bluedotterel | Oct 24 2021 20:34 utc | 22

Hello Bluedotterel.

You are saying the same as William Gruff. The USA is a far more powerful country, ergo the USA is in control.

That is the accepted position. To my mind that is an erroneous perception.

You have to divide countries as between the people and the leadership.

When organisms ally, or even merge, then the elite deals with the elite, and the masses deal with the masses.

You don't have the leaders of the USA dealing with the common people in the UK. No. The USA leadership deals with the UK leadership.

And that is why it is important to note that the elite in the UK is far more powerful than the elite in the USA.
For many reasons.

The context of my exchange with William was the atrocity in Indonesia in 1965/1966. The "Year of Living Dangerously". My point to him was that those then USA leaders are nowhere today. Whereas the UK leadership today is exactly as it was in 1965. He did not reply, and the only comment I received was to the effect that the reason was that they had been operating for a millenium, versus only two hundred years for the Americans.

So no real disagreement.

Let me put it another way.

How many American heads of state have been assassinated?
How many British heads of state have been assassinated?

Posted by: John Cleary | Oct 25 2021 21:45 utc | 93

@93 john cleary quote - "And that is why it is important to note that the elite in the UK is far more powerful than the elite in the USA. For many reasons." thanks john.. that is my impression as well, although i have nothing to back it up...

Posted by: james | Oct 25 2021 21:52 utc | 94

For what it is worth, this is what I think has happened.

In the "West" the permanent bureaucracy has taken power for itself.
The pinnacle of the permanent bureaucracy are the monarchies. They are more bureaucratic than senior civil servants, and have no forced retirement age.

Mandarins, par excellence.

And the Uber Mandarin, whose service is sworn by all other Mandarins, is Queen Elizabeth II.

As regards the USA, wasn't it Woodrow Wilson who first complained of the insidious pervading atmosphere that he detected?

And who exactly was it that decided to raise the statue of a Confederate General in Washington DC?

Posted by: John Cleary | Oct 25 2021 22:01 utc | 95

Hi james. We crossed.

You say you have nothing to back it up.
That's hardly surprising is it. There's not much analysis out there in the real world.

The only reason I'm in a position to keep bashing away at them is because they came after me.
They tried to kill me, and they failed.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

I know the truth about them.

Posted by: John Cleary | Oct 25 2021 22:08 utc | 96

Glenn Greenwald goes on a supermax rant.

and tears the oligarchs a new one

Title: Pierre Omidyar's Financing of the Facebook "Whistleblower" Campaign Reveals a Great Deal
Subtext: The internet is the last remaining instrument for dissent and free discourse to thrive outside state and oligarchical control. This campaign aims to put an end to that.

alternate url:

Posted by: librul | Oct 25 2021 22:10 utc | 97

@Posted by: Billb | Oct 25 2021 18:56 utc | 85

Canada has certainly been de-industrialized over the past few decades, and that is continuing. And it does have some pockets of higher-tech (IT in Waterloo, biotech in Toronto) together with its habit of digging/drilling holes and handing over the contents for other to do the value-added processing. The country is also run by oligarchs, the Canadian elite are just a lot smoother at hiding themselves and taking longer to overcome the social democratic instincts of its population (e.g. healthcare and an actual safety net).

BUT Russia is much more neoliberalized than Canada, inequality significantly greater, the political system more brutalized (and less resilient), and the income differentials between Russia/China and Canada/USA will become much greater for the former over the next decade for the average person (as against the 100 billionaires). Also, Russia and China do not share the level of cultural affinity that the two Anglo-dominated states do. So maybe somewhat of a mix between the Canada and Mexico roles.

Posted by: Roger | Oct 25 2021 22:12 utc | 98

@ john clearly... well keep on posting your insights on this.. i appreciate it..

@ librul.. thanks.. will take a look!

Posted by: james | Oct 25 2021 22:13 utc | 99

johncleary@93...wasn't there a charles? joking aside, i enjoy your posts, esp. the care & concern for craig murray (blessings be upon him) & o/c julian...may the extradition implode in their faces.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Oct 25 2021 23:13 utc | 100

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