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October 20, 2021
Open Thread 2021-81
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Colombia Reports Colombia’s increasingly authoritarian President Ivan Duque is set to suspend electoral guarantees in his regime’s latest and most blatant attack on democracy. Duque’s expressed intention to suspend the “Guarantees Law” makes fair elections unlikely as the initiative throws the door wide open for fraud. Posted by: Maracatu | Oct 20 2021 18:24 utc | 2 The “moon of alabama” header grafic only wks on the main page. It’s nice, so I report this. Salud. Posted by: El gato loco | Oct 20 2021 18:24 utc | 3 Sometimes doing nothing is the best strategy of all. Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 20 2021 18:25 utc | 4 Facebook is moving to the ‘metaverse’. That is all. Posted by: gottlieb | Oct 20 2021 18:25 utc | 5 Try this one Posted by: Loubnan | Oct 20 2021 18:26 utc | 6 And for some morning shits and giggles here is latest on the “Havana Syndrome”. Hospitals are full. Where have I heard that lie before? My question is, if anyone dies, will HS be penciled in as cause or COVID? Decisions decisions. North Korean press have more credentials that MSM. Posted by: Tom | Oct 20 2021 18:34 utc | 7 my brother who follows the covid dairies more closely shared this with me.. some of my american friends might find it interesting… Posted by: james | Oct 20 2021 18:40 utc | 8 Ramin Mazaheri is back! Posted by: Tom | Oct 20 2021 18:42 utc | 10 “Now it is not uncommon for liberals to say “free speech is bad.” They say: “conservatives can use free speech to convince people to implement policies that are bad for you.” That is how irrational most liberals and even many so-called progressive leftists have become. They want a dictatorship in the name of liberalism and progressivism. They have gone nuts for tyranny.” Tulsi Gabbard Has Not Changed — Her Critics Have Posted by: Kali | Oct 20 2021 19:00 utc | 12 @ 11 tom… i see that… it comes up via the wayback machine here.. Posted by: james | Oct 20 2021 19:19 utc | 13 Posted by: Tom | Oct 20 2021 18:34 utc | 7 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 20 2021 19:21 utc | 14 How’s that US “democracy” thing working out? . .Not so well. Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 20 2021 19:21 utc | 15 trying that yet again.. oh well.. Posted by: james | Oct 20 2021 19:22 utc | 16 https://ago.nebraska.gov/sites/ago.nebraska.gov/files/docs/opinions/21-017_0.pdf Posted by: james | Oct 20 2021 19:25 utc | 18 Afghan Withdrawal: Sunday With the Military Industrial Complex Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 20 2021 19:30 utc | 19 It has just been discovered that the Facebook Covid vaccine Fat-Checkers are funded by vaccine companies from RT Posted by: Tom | Oct 20 2021 19:32 utc | 20 Some may find Putin’s meeting with the State Council Presidium and its discussion about Russia’s “transport strategy until 2030, and forecast until 2035” very instructive dealing as it does with the ongoing development of Russia that still has a rather long way to go thanks to its continental extent. Putin admits to problems in relying on private interests in developing what are a series of natural monopolies that must be owned and run by the public at either the local, regional or national level. Some of the stats are eye-opening. As with many other nations, Russia finances its road network via fuel taxes which have served well so far: @ Maracatu 2 Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 20 2021 19:43 utc | 22 Non stop Russia Russia Russia, Trump’s fault. Putin making us look like fools. Posted by: Tom | Oct 20 2021 19:51 utc | 23 I hear you, b. But it’s not because you’ve got nothing. It’s a reflex of an empty, banal and repetitive world where the grifters and carpetbaggers rule. You’re feeling like Sisyphus… Psychohistorian always signs off “the shitshow continues until it doesn’t…”: we’re all waiting for that moment like characters in a Beckett play. vk has all the conviction of a preacher proclaiming “the end of capitalism is a-comin!” but capitalism seems to go instead from strength to strength. Karlof has faith in the Russians and rails agains the Outlaw Empire, but where’s a Sheriff when you need him and who would bring that Outlaw to justice if there was one? Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 20 2021 20:01 utc | 24 Michael Hudson on how the US extracts wealth from other nations who wish to participate in the us dollar economy. All nations are strongly encouraged to participate or else. The US in indebted to majority of these countries and has no plans to pay these countries back. All the funds stolen from these other countries are funneled into military imperialism. God forbid any should be used to help it’s citizens. Posted by: Joe | Oct 20 2021 20:03 utc | 25 The Jesuits are revolting – still. And now in China. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 20 2021 20:04 utc | 26 Russia MFA has released the joint statement from today’s meeting. Of the nine points, IMO the final two are the most important: Enjoy Posted by: Dogon Priest | Oct 20 2021 20:33 utc | 28 To that final point, I say good luck getting one copper penny from any of them, especially the Outlaw US Empire Posted by: Tom | Oct 20 2021 20:46 utc | 29 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 20 2021 20:04 utc | 26
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 20 2021 20:47 utc | 30 When your world has turned asunder Posted by: ld | Oct 20 2021 20:52 utc | 31 If you want to see what the ruling class in Australia think about the poor, check this out: it’s not a joke Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 20 2021 20:56 utc | 32 karlof1 #27 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 20 2021 21:11 utc | 33 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 20 2021 20:47 utc | 30 Posted by: no_really | Oct 20 2021 22:15 utc | 34 Various reports of drone attack on Americans at al Tanf in Syria. Posted by: Ghost Ship | Oct 20 2021 22:15 utc | 35 Just came out yesterday, from the European Journal of Epidemiology (Harvard contributed to the study as well, re the US data): Increases in Covid -19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination in 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States. In fact the higher the percentage of fully vaccinated, the more COVID cases there are. Posted by: Peter Schmidt | Oct 20 2021 22:21 utc | 36 Posted by: no_really | Oct 20 2021 22:15 utc | 33 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 20 2021 22:27 utc | 37 Posted by: no_really | Oct 20 2021 22:15 utc | 33 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 20 2021 22:31 utc | 38 @ ut 26 Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 20 2021 22:40 utc | 39 If you want to see what the ruling class in Australia think about the poor, check this out: it’s not a joke Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 20 2021 22:43 utc | 40 re: John Kennedy
Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 20 2021 22:50 utc | 41 @ ld 31 Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 20 2021 22:56 utc | 42 To all MoA readers in Australia, Posted by: Jen | Oct 20 2021 23:02 utc | 43 Don Bacon @41– I gave up buying into covid debates long ago as the level of bulldust on either side became insurmountable, however in the interest of full disclosure I own to having taken the vaccination prior to travelling as it doesn’t seem to matter how much I exercise & manage my tucker, my blood pressure sits at around 190 over 100. Hypertension rules. I’m just not into this getting old bizzo – weird aches ‘n pains etc suck!
I always doubted the true efficacy of the vaxes, that they wouldn’t stop infection or transmission but for some reason I believed the claim that getting vaccinated would prevent hospitalisation, now it seems that is a crock. 99.7% of Waterford Co’s adult population is fully vaccinated but their hospitals are so overcrowded with covid patients that admissions for all other treatments have been suspended. Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 21 2021 0:23 utc | 45 Just talked to a guy I worked with, not long ago. Focuses on medtech startups. Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2021 0:48 utc | 46 Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 20 2021 20:56 utc | 32 Posted by: Tom | Oct 21 2021 1:04 utc | 47 Debs Posted by: suzan | Oct 21 2021 1:05 utc | 48 Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 20 2021 20:56 utc | 32 Posted by: Tom | Oct 21 2021 1:08 utc | 49 c1ue: “Even people who are asymptomatic have around 20% lung capacity loss. This lung capacity loss affects the level of oxygenation, including oxygen to the brain in turn meaning people end up feeling depressed/tired for many months.” Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 21 2021 1:10 utc | 50 I hadn’t seen this posted yet. It’s at antiwar.com, a pretty reliable source, IMHO so it probably has some merit. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 21 2021 1:15 utc | 51 More from FBI raid on Deripaska Posted by: Tom | Oct 21 2021 1:16 utc | 52 @51 Poor Deripaska. So now he has discovered the US not an earthly paradise for Russian billionaires he wants to go back to Russia with his stolen money. If Putin will take him. He should probably settle for a nice bit of beachfront in the Cayman Islands. Posted by: dh | Oct 21 2021 1:50 utc | 53 Here’s something interesting… a recent report from George Washington University’s Institute for European, Russian and Eurasian Studies reveals that NATO has been training far-right Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 21 2021 2:37 utc | 54 @ Suzan #47 The article I linked to dated september 23 quotes stats as of 15 September that in Waterford Co 99.7% had at least one jab and (Ireland wide) 90% had both jabs. Six weeks have passed since then and given that 90% of the population had copped both jabs then, it would be fair to assume that most of the 9.7% on a single jab at sept 15 will have grabbed their second in the intervening period so that the figure of those infected between October 5 and October 18, when Waterford recorded 1185 cases of Covid will in the vast majority be humans who had received both jabs and many will have been infected during the period we are told that the vax provides maximum protection. Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 21 2021 3:05 utc | 55 U.S. readies plan to vaccinate kids ages 5-11 against COVID-19 Posted by: librul | Oct 21 2021 3:19 utc | 56 @TQC 50 Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2021 3:41 utc | 57 @ karlof 43 Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2021 3:59 utc | 58 more covid dairies Posted by: james | Oct 21 2021 4:00 utc | 59 @ 54 debs… good to see you back! i agree with the last paragraph in your post @ 54.. it seems there is no way to put the brakes on all of this madness.. Posted by: james | Oct 21 2021 4:05 utc | 60 global public-private-partnership recommended article. Highly descriptive and useful contribution to the literature that studies why no person or no local group, in any one nation state <=can accomplish a successful reverse direction activity. The hypothesis under debate is that the political processes traditionally found within each of the different 256 nation states has been removed from the local nation state to the vastly bigger, global political space. Voters and their elected politicians <=no longer have real input to the politics that determine the fate of those who are the governed. National decisions are no longer the political result of national voting processes; no longer subject to the anger and outrage found in peaceful demonstration and private court actions. instead all important decisions are made in the global political space .. by un_elected and un_seen persons, global organizations, global public private partnerships and global infighting among the private imperial global oligarchs. In short, the global monsters, the PIGOs and their independent think tank organizations and their ownership of the control of digital platforms operating on digital networks has advanced the reach of mind control technology and subjected the mass of humanity in the world to one world control. The persons and entities who control things are generally invisible to the governed and their elected politicians within each of the different nation states. All of this non nation state decision control is financially supported by privately owned corporate powerhouse advertising expenditures made by mostly private owners to the MSM, operating inside of the public media space within each local nation state. The nation is now a political subdivision of the global. And I predict the next true revolution will find the global nation state governed humans rising against the global monsters operating inside to the global control and decision space. The digital platform has enhanced the continuous expansion of the scope and reach of mind control powers. The classification of nation state global activity as secret and the nation to nation integration of the intelligence apparatus in each nation state with the global political space, the use of monopoly powers which allows those external to the internal nation state space, to extract the wealth still remaining within the citizens of the local nation state, and the classification of nation state activities as in guarded state secrets have removed awareness and knowledge of the activities of the globalist involving government and the view of the 8 billion citizens governed by the nation state system. Posted by: snake | Oct 21 2021 4:33 utc | 61 karlof1 and others, I like that idea of keeping the soul healthy, a need for everyone. In the spirit of that I investigated my longheld “Sacred Horses” book, and will do so with other elements of my oddly unsorted stacks and shelves – it beats staring at a tiny screen trying to find answers to life’s questions. I now know more about the unknown saga of the Turkmen horses (It’s okay “men” in turkmenese means “I am”, nothing adversely politically incorrect about that.)I enjoyed the re-read, then spent much time following up on what had happened since it was written. Not a happy tale, this second one. Posted by: juliania | Oct 21 2021 4:40 utc | 62 my brother who follows the covid dairies more closely shared this with me.. some of my american friends might find it interesting… Posted by: snake | Oct 21 2021 4:43 utc | 63 @ snake – read further down to my post @ 18 where the link is given without trying to make it cell phone friendly thru use of the html tags.. Posted by: james | Oct 21 2021 5:11 utc | 64 https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00392-3/fulltext Posted by: Sushi | Oct 21 2021 5:21 utc | 65 Below is a quote from a ZH piece that originated at a site called American Greatness Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2021 5:31 utc | 66 Below is a Xinhuanet posting with some interesting statistics about the finance sector and other details about current/ongoing regulation Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2021 6:04 utc | 67 An interesting article on Zerohedge has a bit that describes how the health care system works in prevent ivermectin from being approved by the FDA. Posted by: Bluedotterel | Oct 21 2021 6:17 utc | 68 Below is another Xinhuanet posting with this focus on housing investment Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2021 6:21 utc | 69 Typepad ate my post about the Glass Bead Game, a mind changing story about culture, preservation of knowledge and one man’s life within that. Posted by: jonku | Oct 21 2021 7:00 utc | 70 I think we need to and are moving toward a COVID treatment vs. prevention model. Posted by: jonku | Oct 21 2021 7:13 utc | 71 Jen@42 Posted by: Dim sim | Oct 21 2021 7:17 utc | 72 Does anybody know anything about what seems to be happening in eSwatini (formerly Swaziland)? I gather that the King there is a horrid dictator who probably should be overthrown, working closely together with the big business interests which turned Swaziland into an immense sweat-shop during the apartheid era. But here in South Africa we are being bombarded with anti-Swazi propaganda bigging up the “Swazi resistance” which all seems to be based in South Africa with plentiful access to Western media, and currently the claim is that the repressive forces in eSwatini are all Equatorial Guinean mercenaries, which sounds a bit implausible since most countries can manage to shoot protesters all on their own. This makes me wonder whether this is not some sort of colour revolution in the making which nobody has noticed because nobody gives a damn about Southern Africa and the South African media are all controlled by Western interests anyway. Or can it be that those corrupt Western-controlled media have suddenly and uniquely developed altruistic interest in democracy with respect to eSwatini and nowhere else? Does anyone know what Western country might have an interest in installing a puppet government in eSwatini? Posted by: MFB | Oct 21 2021 7:42 utc | 73 From the sounds of things, pressure is being applied to the Al Tanf area occupied by the US. Posted by: Tom | Oct 21 2021 8:18 utc | 74 Posted by: jonku | Oct 21 2021 7:13 utc | 70 Posted by: Bluedotterel | Oct 21 2021 8:44 utc | 75 To Dim sim @72 Posted by: Hope | Oct 21 2021 8:49 utc | 76 Also to Jen @42: Is there any way to know how many people have signed the petition? Posted by: Hope | Oct 21 2021 9:08 utc | 77 The CIA has nothing either, just fear and loathing in abundance. These clowns have just established their China Mission Centre to get one step ahead (or is that behind) the US military.
I guess they are beginning to suffer from the shortage of opium and are exploring delirium with a dash of coke. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 21 2021 10:02 utc | 78 From gas we grow food, well from the nitrogen fertilizers that is. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 21 2021 10:12 utc | 79 Tom | Oct 21 2021 8:18 utc | 73
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Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 21 2021 10:19 utc | 80 Debsisdead @44: “It is almost certain that none of us moa-ites is gonna be around if/when the entire ugly structure finally crashes…” Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 21 2021 10:21 utc | 81 Hope @ 76: Posted by: Jen | Oct 21 2021 10:51 utc | 82 @William Gruff | Oct 21 2021 10:21 utc | 80 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 21 2021 11:31 utc | 83 In US now they are talking broadly about mixing and matching vaccines and boosters. Seems the sciene has gone out the window and the clown troupe is running things. They dont even want to tell you what booster is recommended for what vaccine. “Dont matter. Mizmx n match. Just get booster” this doesnt sound like “following the science” much. I have no problem with 65+ year olds boosting at will. But the younger healthier people should have enough protection from original vaccine to not need this at all. Posted by: Comandante | Oct 21 2021 12:41 utc | 84 WG @ 80. agree Posted by: financial matters | Oct 21 2021 12:51 utc | 85 Posted by: james | Oct 20 2021 19:25 utc | 18 Posted by: migueljose | Oct 21 2021 12:56 utc | 86 The Orchestrated Conservative “Awakening”
!! Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 21 2021 12:57 utc | 87 Gruff and tungsten, good to see you’re both in fine form, Gruff’s train wreck and Tungsten’s coked up opiated cocktail, I would buy a comic book version if you ever come out with one. Posted by: migueljose | Oct 21 2021 13:06 utc | 88 Quote from article: Posted by: BM | Oct 21 2021 13:11 utc | 89 A bit of European culture: A ‘Skald’ is an old Norse poet – a storyteller. Interestingly, an entirely French band calls itself SKÁLD and sings in Old Norse! Norðrljós means ‘Northern Lights’. Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 21 2021 13:28 utc | 90 Helmer has new piece up on Ms Nudelmann’s visit to Moscow: Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 21 2021 13:29 utc | 91 More energy fun: Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2021 13:34 utc | 92 It just makes no sense this urge to keep shooting up the population. Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 21 2021 13:41 utc | 93 LA cargo ship backlog worsens to historic highs:
See note above on CARB regulatory impact on CA big rig carrying capacity. Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2021 13:48 utc | 94 This meeting today with an extensive panel of government members discusses the pandemic.
It is indeed strange – my understanding was that Putin got his vaccination right at the start, during the clinical trials, before even the full roll-out. And indeed, I would expect him to be one of the first. What gives? Posted by: BM | Oct 21 2021 13:51 utc | 95 @Tom_Q_Collins #49 Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2021 13:54 utc | 96 RE #90, that’s from April, my mistake. Need to read things first. Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 21 2021 13:58 utc | 97 Continuing from my comment @Oct21 12:57 #86
!! Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 21 2021 13:58 utc | 98 Sushi @ 64 Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 21 2021 13:58 utc | 99 A polemic on energy use: The true feasibility of moving away from fossil fuels Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2021 14:19 utc | 100 |
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