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“What Happens When China Becomes Number One?”
Kishore Mahbubani is an experienced Singaporean civil servant. He later became Dean and Professor in the Practice of Public Policy at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy at the National University of Singapore.
In 2015 he gave a talk at the Harvard Kennedy School's Institute of Politics under the title "What Happens When China Becomes Number One?"
The video of the talk was uploaded earlier this year. The interesting part starts at 28:00 min where he begins to show a proverbial mirror to the audience.
He ends his talk with this:
Would the United States be comfortable living in a world where China behaves just like America did when it was the sole superpower?
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Unfortunately U.S. President Joe Biden did not reflect on that question. In his speech today, before the United Nations General Assembly, he again displayed an unnecessary aggressive posture towards China:
Mr. Biden said the world faced a choice between the democratic values espoused by the West and the disregard for them by China and other authoritarian governments.
“The future belongs to those who give their people the ability to breathe free, not those who seek to suffocate their people with an iron hand authoritarianism,” he said. “The authoritarians of the world, they seek to proclaim the end of the age of democracy, but they’re wrong.”
But the president vowed not to pursue a new era of sustained conflict with countries like China, saying that the United States would “compete vigorously and lead with our values and our strength to stand up for our allies and our friends.”
“We’re not seeking — say it again, we are not seeking — a new Cold War or a world divided into rigid blocks,” he said.
To which Blake Hounshell correctly replies:
Blake News @blakehounshell – 14:55 UTC · Sep 21, 2021
Nobody ever says,
“I am seeking a new Cold War.”
I would also add that 650,000 people in the U.S. have lost their "ability to breathe free" over the last eighteen months while China has successfully suppressed the pandemic. Are 'democratic' or 'authoritarian' the right criteria for judging that difference?
In an answer to a question after his talk Mahbubani, who believes that China will soon be number one, he explains (58:00 min):
Unlike the United States of America the Chinese do not believe in proselytizing their beliefs. … So in a sense we will have a very different world when the world's number one power is no longer a missionary power.
I for one hope for that.
h/t agitpapa
noLiberals_noBougies @ 5. and max @ 7 & 32 goldhoarder @ 36 james @ 44 Karlof1 @ 54 gulag @ 71 denk @ 88
Oriental Voice @ 96
The west’s ‘sound institutions’ don’t produce wealth, they are predicated upon wealth gained from raping continents, first by exploiting slaves then by exploiting oil..
<= Royal families and influential insiders in Dutch-land, Spain, France and England used national governments to Rape continents <=these imperialisms were private ventures, blamed in history, on the national governments. Royal families and powerful insiders would outfit privateers (ships) to engage in continent rape-ing activities. The government's navy and armies would escort, protect and facilitate these privateering continent rape-ing ventures. Often slaves were imported to do the work in far away colonies that returned profits to the private Oligarch investors. The use of public government for privateering activities allows private parties to cash-in on the fruits of colonial enslavement.
When profits from colonial activities slowed about 1860's, the game changed, imperialist (investment bankers, slavers, shipping interests, and oil men, etc.) moved from using slavery to " $gating-consumer access to private oligarch owned and controlled "vital resources". <=access to these resources was denied but after all resistance was eliminated the resources would be priced to extort national wealth into the hands of the privateer imperialist.
Private imperialism [using a host government to make a profit from a foreign place] became the business of Oligarch owned corporations, the British pound became the reserve capital of the world, and many colonies became vassal states of (or colonies of) the governments that supported and hosted the imperialist.
The imperialist divided the spoils of WWI, and bulcanized the nations into Vassal states, IOT keep the populations in chaos.. Whole peoples became slaves to the governments private party imperialist established in their land of the slaves. (the governed sheep were moved by treaty negotiated by the victors into cell block "X" X= 1 of 256 different cell blocks <=the nation state system)
WWII made technology and [oil and gas] energy <=global necessities. Those who owned the technology and the oil and gas could $gate them for profit. National governments protected private ownership of oil and gas and technology, by military and diplomatic means. Transportation shifted from carrying the spoils from the colonies to carrying the oil and gas to those who could pay. . By 1970s, access to technology for defense and manufacturing had become such a necessity it was even more valuable than gas and oil. So gas, oil and technology (GOT). The M. E. Oil fields were acquired and copy write monopoly and patent monopoly laws were scope extended, made numerous, and internationalized by treaties, the governmental powers that protected the game of imperialism became the rule of law.
No one could compete economically with the private Oligarch and the technology his private corporations owned<= these corporations were growing bigger than most governments that were supposed to be regulating them. The laws of copyright and patent monopolies (CPMs) were the new implements of imperialism. CPMs allowed the imperialist to develop or to acquire exclusive rights in the technologies as they came available. Hence imperialist were now capitalist, and they were in control of the production, distribution and supply of all of the needs of the governed classes. In the more backward nations the Imperialist only needed to deny access to oil. gas, food and potable water until the target state gave in.. Everyone was punished by the imperial corporate power. CPMs forced foreign nations to be the slaves of the imperialist but invasion was no longer necessary as CPMs are transparent to national boundaries.
As imperialist learned more about the nation state system, they realized the nation state governed its citizens as if the citizens were prisoners, and the politicians were like prison guards, they followed imperial orders, and could be depended on to report back (spy on) those who are the governed. The nation state improved private hidden imperial control over governed masses like no military ever could. Imperialist developed and owned the media and soon discovered the media could distribute propaganda that could control the masses with greater precision than rule of law. So the nation state became the vassal of the Imperialist, and the imperialist used that power to differentiate and indoctrinate everyone inside each of the nation states from birth to death.
The divide and conquer principle guided whole populations into chaos. Chaos reduces the power of the masses to resist any imperial desire to near zero. and that condition exploit because the power of the people of the nation state to resist was minimal. .. the private imperialist (oligarch and their corporations) discovered rule of law generated monopoly powers could be used to deny access to anyone at any place to anything the imperialist owned. States needed technology just to defend themselves, and the people needed the consumables that make life modern and the imperialist were in complete control. State after state surrendered to allow the Imperialist to use their monopolies to extract from the governed of that state the entirety of its public and private wealth.
The East rose to the challenge.. ownership of the CPMs and the experience of new technology development is flowing into the hands of those who were the prior victims of the western Imperialist. The victim nations are becoming the owners of the newer and better technologies. Aside: for a long time China did not need oil and gas as they were backward but China's growth, has forced them to find access around the gate controlled oil and gas scarcities imposed by the private oligarch hidden deep inside of the western nation states. . and energy itself has changed, wind and sun are transparent to oligarch controlled nation state authority. Hence a new access to energy has destabilized the i own the oil and gas condition.
SCO and other Eastern institutions are on par with NATO and other western institutions. Further the new game on the street <= control over the financial instruments that represent derivatives underlying producing economies is failing. China is driving <=on the ground productive economics, that seems to be more than hot thin wall street blows.
Little control over things the oligarchs of the West once had, remains? Even the various western prisons [nation state system] are mostly in domestic chaos. In other words, the Oligarch cannot use the armed strength of nation states and the private ownership of intangible assets to control the use of, or access to energy, commodities, patented or copyright technologies in some one else's nation any more. <=Exception: international treaties remain, which claim all knowledge which enables human thoughts to be made into working objects belongs, exclusively to imperial Oligarch and their leg breaker corporations.
Acknowledgement. The result produced by the nation state system is a direct result of those who control it. When oligarchs and their corporations control, the nation state is used for imperialistic purposes, when the governed are in control the nation states is used to better mankinds life on this earth. If the West fails to remove these internationalized monopoly powers, and to open all gates protecting information from use by those they govern, and if the west does not shut-down financial imperialistic manipulations, the west is likely to fail and likely to become a vassal of the emerging, more productive Eastern world. Why? Because there is a difference between owning and restricting the use of technology in order to profit from its use, and allowing movers and shakers to use it to efficiently produce goods and services.
War, starvation, nation state might, rule of law, energy starvation, and financial wizardry show an across the board pattern of weakening. Options once easily available to the private imperial oligarch are dwindling. The balance shows, control of resources by any means, is tipping to the East.
Most know it is the private oligarch who benefit from the copyright and patent laws, everyone understands it is the private oligarch <= not the nation state and nor the people governed by the nation state; the beneficiaries are the private Oligarch who manipulate the nation state system.. Everyone knows the banks and wall street conduct private for profit parties to which none but the Oligarch are invited. Everyone understands the privately owned MSM is the support which keeps the Oligarch hidden behind the nation state actors, and that keeps the conduct of public officials in check, and that keeps the governed in the blissful dark.
Everyone knows that private imperialistic owners of MSM control, by the content they distribute, the minds of nation state governed mankind. Everyone knows the MSM distribute propaganda designed to limit or terminate the options available to the leaders of the various nation states. In today's world everything you see or hear is engineered to control someone's mind. Whole nations are mislead by private imperialist Oligarchs who none can see.
The beliefs of those who are governed subjects of the nation state are different from facts, that constitute the real world, but the MSM informed governed do not know the difference because they are in an information controlled environment. The private imperialistic global Oligarch and their global corporations are not the same class of people as those who governed the nation state as politicians and those who govern are not the same class of people as those who are the governed. . No one in America agreed it was a good idea to shut down the industries in America and to move them to the East, but the global Oligarch would have the nation states do nothing but..
B thanks for this great article.
aLietzu @ 14 "China's only real crime against US business men is threatening to out perform them in the global system that was supposed to be rigged so they always win. " <= seemingly the truth..
canadian Cents @ 16 ""The future belongs to those who give their people the ability to breathe free, not those who seek to suffocate their people ..." <= agree. copyrights and patents dampen all productive activity and must be eliminated .. the world must learn to organize the people of the world so they can use new inventions and learn to work together to make life on earth better for everyone. Claims by anyone to intangible property rights should be off limits because ownership of products of thinking should belong to everyone.
Expression ( ideas produced into something useful) of the mind of one, belongs to all of the people living today, and all of the people in civilizations that follow. All humans have a immediate stake (public right) in that which is invented<=generics should be allowed immediately <= no private interest should be able to keep others from using the expressions of someone's mind? All knowledge is the public property of mankind. Nation states have no business making knowledge into private property.
Everyone should compete for profit or gain on the basis of efficiency, but no one should be denied the right o use the knowledge that enables competition. The should be the most efficient producer, not the richest owner of intangible property rights.
ak74 @ 17 "democratic values" vs "democracy" when nation states coin themselves Republics, only the rich and powerful are entitled to practice democracy, when populations claim themselves democracies the government responds to the people.
Karlof1 @ 19 "United States is the main instigators of disorder in the world"<== No no no no, often repeated mistake winners make, each time a peace is achieved or a crisis ending in surrender occurs.
In nearly every case, history shows, it is the same global private imperialistic Oligarch and the same global monopoly powered corporation, family or group of imperialistic Oligarchs that are the responsible parties, yet punishment is never directed at them? Its the Oligarch that have used the nation states to inflict global mayhem and to destroy the domestic cultures and lifestyles of those in imperial victim nation state that should bear the brunt of punishment by the winners. Leave the nation state system in place, but modify it to protect it from being used for imperialistic purposes.
These monopoly powered corporations and the oligarch that own the nation states today, are more powerful than the nation state they own. You punish either the nation state, including its prior or current leadership, or those it governs and you have achieved nothing. It is the private imperialist Oligarch and his or her privately controlled public global corporation that should be made to answer both for domestic (such as America, UK, France, etc) and foreign nation state destruction. . and .. for the mayhem such private person Oligarch and privately owned entities may have have imposed on the world.
The nation state cannot act, cannot think, does not breath, and is in fact nothing but a node constructed structure. Armies and political actors man the activities at every node in the structure.. The imperialist oligarch owns or controls these node Actors. Responsibility should reach to the oligarch, the CEOs and officers and directors of these stock financed entities including investment bankersters and advertisers who operate and support the the oligarch owned, imperialistic dirty deed propaganda distributing MSM. The guilty clearly are not the nation state leaders, clearly are not the governed masses, but instead the guilty are the private parties who lay deeply hidden behind the nation state.
for centuries global winners have punished the nation states and the people they govern for global abuses.
Such has not changed a thing. Never have the winners and losers together collectively punished the Oligarch and their global corporations <=why is that? And until the winners quit targeting for blame the government or the people governed by that government as responsible parties, and instead target the private Oligarch and his ill founded instruments of imperialism, nothing in the world will ever change. War after war will continue until the governed people, have the unrestricted power, to audit and punish the people who are in positions to govern.
Break the monopolies up and deny private ownership of, or restricted use of, expressions of the human mind to anyone for any reason. Establish some version of my 2nd government idea, so private party abuse of humanity cannot find ways to use governance as a means to disturb or capture the progress of mankind on our earth. Distribute the collective private wealth of the oligarch and his corporate entities, to repair the damage.. but do not punish the private persons, not the man in the street, nor the greedy corrupt politican <= the Oligarch engineered into positions of national power. Instead, punish the private fat cat oligarch, separate him from his wealth, terminate the charters of his privately owned tangibles and intangibles and patented and copyrighted empires. If the winners of the world are mature enough to do that (which Gulag @ 51 does not believe they are), the right of self determination will return to the people who are the governed and the cycles of repeating wars should end.
Robert Macaire @ 47 This [Russian-China] alliance is the only thing standing between us and world domination by Neoliberalism". <=that's a shame, where are the governed peoples of those two nation states?
augusto @ 59.. "CLEARLY the Protestant Reform and the French Revolution. " account for the individualism that keeps moving western civilization. <=but monopoly powers vested in a select few, is stopping individualism dead in its tracts. and individualism recognized as part of a team effort is promoting China to higher levels..
The government is a dependent of those who are the governors, the governors are the dependent of those who appointed the governors, and the governors are appointed by the oligarch, because the imperial oligarch are more powerful than the government.
Posted by: snake | Sep 22 2021 13:26 utc | 127
@ snake (#127), thank you for your post. Well appreciated. Agree with you on those developments. We are in sync! Humanity is waking up to reality and will address its challenges. Let’s first focus on the “Situation Assessment.” We can then discuss solutions to build better nations and humanity.
There are “private imperialistic global Oligarch.”
What is a better way to refer to them? Imperialist CLANS, Imperialist Private Clans, Imperialist Families, Imperialist Private Oligarchy, Private Global Syndicate,… ? Will really appreciate ideas from barflies, so we have consistency in referring to them.
Similarly, what is a better way to refer to the global empire? Financial Empire, Global Private Empire, Global Financial Empire…. ?
Central Banks – Private Monetary System
One way to validate this group of Imperialist Private Clans (IPC) is by following the creation of central banks, private monetary system, and nations in our world, starting around 1609 or even before that. There are many who are exposing this network of clans. FSB-Russia refers to them as clans.
This interest-yielding private monetary system didn’t appear by itself. It didn’t become the dominant paradigm by itself. Who has been driving its global adoption? Why is this bad monetary system spreading in the world? Who is spreading? Why is the functioning of this bad monetary system not a subject of public debates? Also, it is not an election topic in any of the electoral campaigns?
“The true equation is ‘democracy’ = government by world financiers.”
– J.R.R. Tolkien
“Democracy” is a temporary phase of history which allows the IPC to take control from the earlier generation of dominant power players: the monarchies.
What fractal emerges when one analysis the formation of democracies? Text
Here is one:
– Create a revolution/civil war & steal a region (UK, U$A, France, India, … )
– Create a Private Central Bank (BoE-1694, First Bank of the USA-1791, BoF-1800, RBI-1935)
– Fund & control new rich individuals (Kleptocrats)
– Fund & control political parties & media
– Nationalize the central bank (BoE-1946, Fed-1914, BoF-1946, RBI-1949)
What is the history of the Financial Empire up to now?
The Imperialist Private Clans have been pursuing global imperialism over centuries. These Clans do include royal families such as Windsor, Hapsburg, Black Nobilities…? With extensive planning and good execution from the FIRST central bank in 1609, the IPC’s private monetary system has been installed in various regions, nations captured and transformed to democracies, and a global empire constructed. The Financial Empire has moved from contraction and expansion cycles to become a global Financial Empire. It has moved in phases. It has a hierarchy in a nation and internationally.
China and Russia
The Financial Empire has moved in phases and its wars have never ended. What was it pursuing in 1990s?
The Empire tried to capture China and Russia in 1989. It failed to capture the former. It has sought to capture China, since then. It viewed China as an opponent in 1995, as stated in the 1995 Bilderberg meeting notes. The Empire has a strategic construct for its global vision and tried to mold nations accordingly, including China. The governed in the West are lost in their theatrics.
In 1990s, Russia’s economy, financial and monetary system were completely distorted. This situation was made worse by Yeltsin gang which was controlled by the Clans and Russia’s traitors. A private neoliberal socioeconomic system was installed and the Clans focused on launching war to capture Eastern European countries. Vladimir Putin and his confidants were a game changer in 1998. In 2001, Putin and his team decided to first reconfigure and reconstruct Russia’s internal sphere to achieve stability. In the first two terms Putin focused on this stability phase and after achieving them finally declared Russia’s independence at Munich in 2007. The Financial Empire immediately attacked Russia in 2008 (Georgia 08-08-08)) and started challenging it in the external sphere. After fooling Russia with a reset under Medvedev, the Empire pursued the ME by attacking Libya & Syria. Putin was back in 2012, and the Empire decided to capture Ukraine (2013), followed by Crimea sanctions (2014). Putin decided to challenge the Empire in Crimea and Syria (2015). The Empire has continued to attack Russia’s borders, Belarus (2020) and supply chain, (Nord Stream 2 – 2019).
💲Bloc vs Non-$ Bloc
One of the overarching themes from the geopolitical developments is that it is a conflict between 💲Bloc and Non-$ Bloc. The former includes US$, £, €, ¥, Western and its vassals currencies. The Non-$ Bloc comprises of nations that want to be sovereign and define their destiny such as China and Russia. These two blocs are involved in information, currency, trade, energy and proxy warfares.
The governed populace just elects, funds and serves the Phony Ponzi Puppets & Privateers Powerful preside over the populace through politicians, priests, press, prosecutors, police,…
Now, Puppets, Privateers, Populace are perturbed.
Posted by: Max | Sep 22 2021 17:48 utc | 147
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