Open Thread 2021-73
News & views ...
Posted by b on September 22, 2021 at 17:27 UTC | Permalink
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Posted by: Prof | Sep 22 2021 17:48 utc | 1
The key question is: will Putin's successor get fed up with Pindo antics and just annihilate Pindostan?
Posted by: Albertde | Sep 22 2021 17:52 utc | 2
What is the existing global geopolitical reality?
There are “private imperialistic global Oligarch.”
What is a better way to refer to them? Imperialist CLANS, Imperialist Private Clans, Imperialist Families, Imperialist Private Oligarchy, Private Global Syndicate,... ? Will really appreciate ideas from barflies, so we have consistency in referring to them.
Similarly, what is a better way to refer to the global empire? Financial Empire, Global Private Empire, Global Financial Empire.... ?
Central Banks – Private Monetary System
One way to validate this group of Imperialist Private Clans (IPC) is by following the creation of central banks, private monetary system, and nations in our world, starting around 1609 or even before that. There are many who are exposing this network of clans. FSB-Russia refers to them as clans.
This interest-yielding private monetary system didn’t appear by itself. It didn’t become the dominant paradigm by itself. Who has been driving its global adoption? Why is this bad monetary system spreading in the world? Who is spreading? Why is the functioning of this bad monetary system not a subject of public debates? Also, it is not an election topic in any of the electoral campaigns?
"The true equation is ‘democracy’ = government by world financiers.”
– J.R.R. Tolkien
"Democracy" is a temporary phase of history which allows the IPC to take control from the earlier generation of dominant power players: the monarchies.
What fractal emerges when one analysis the formation of democracies?
Here is one:
– Create a revolution/civil war & steal a region (UK, U$A, France, India, ... )
– Create a Private Central Bank (BoE-1694, First Bank of the USA-1791, BoF-1800, RBI-1935)
– Fund & control new rich individuals (Kleptocrats)
– Fund & control political parties & media
– Nationalize the central bank (BoE-1946, Fed-1914, BoF-1946, RBI-1949)
What is the history of the Financial Empire up to now?
The Imperialist Private Clans have been pursuing global imperialism over centuries. These Clans do include royal families such as Windsor, Hapsburg, Black Nobilities...? With extensive planning and good execution from the FIRST central bank in 1609, the IPC’s private monetary system has been installed in various regions, nations captured and transformed to democracies, and a global empire constructed. The Financial Empire has moved from contraction and expansion cycles to become a global Financial Empire. It has moved in phases. It has a hierarchy in a nation and internationally.
China and Russia
The Financial Empire has moved in phases and its wars have never ended. What was it pursuing in 1990s?
The Empire tried to capture China and Russia in 1989. It failed to capture the former. It has sought to capture China, since then. It viewed China as an opponent in 1995, as stated in the 1995 Bilderberg meeting notes. The Empire has a strategic construct for its global vision and tried to mold nations accordingly, including China. The governed in the West are lost in their theatrics.
In 1990s, Russia’s economy, financial and monetary system were completely distorted. This situation was made worse by Yeltsin gang which was controlled by the Clans and Russia’s traitors. A private neoliberal socioeconomic system was installed and the Clans focused on launching war to capture Eastern European countries. Vladimir Putin and his confidants were a game changer in 1998. In 2001, Putin and his team decided to first reconfigure and reconstruct Russia’s internal sphere to achieve stability. In the first two terms Putin focused on this stability phase and after achieving them finally declared Russia’s independence at Munich in 2007. The Financial Empire immediately attacked Russia in 2008 (Georgia 08-08-08)) and started challenging it in the external sphere. After fooling Russia with a reset under Medvedev, the Empire pursued the ME by attacking Libya & Syria. Putin was back in 2012, and the Empire decided to capture Ukraine (2013), followed by Crimea sanctions (2014). Putin decided to challenge the Empire in Crimea and Syria (2015). The Empire has continued to attack Russia’s borders, Belarus (2020) and supply chain, (Nord Stream 2 - 2019).
💲Bloc vs Non-$ Bloc
One of the overarching themes from the geopolitical developments is that it is a conflict between 💲Bloc and Non-$ Bloc. The former includes US$, £, €, ¥, Western and its vassals currencies. The Non-$ Bloc comprises of nations that want to be sovereign and define their destiny such as China and Russia. These two blocs are involved in information, currency, trade, energy and proxy warfares.
The governed populace just elects, funds and serves the Phony Ponzi Puppets & Privateers Powerful preside over the populace through politicians, priests, press, prosecutors, police,...
Now, Powers, Puppets, Privateers, Populace are perturbed.
Posted by: Max | Sep 22 2021 17:53 utc | 3
Xi's UNGA Speech transcript details China's potent vision. Article explaining Xi's pledge on stopping coal-fired projects overseas is very extensive. Getting vaccinated will soon be much easier:
"The world's first aerosolized inhalable adenovirus type-5 vector-based COVID-19 vaccine (Ad5-nCoV) is progressing well toward obtaining emergency-use approval, and it is expected to be in wide use soon thereafter with proven safety, more robust immune responses, and better effects as a booster, the Global Times learned from the vaccine developer and an industry insider on Wednesday."
@ karlof1 | Sep 22 2021 18:03 utc | 4 with the response on other Open Thread...thanks
I am buried with house stuff...plumbing inspection today and did read your VK piece...# 3 reader I think
Yes, China is playing big game against empire...just warming up I think in the finance sector
Thanks for your efforts here
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 22 2021 18:33 utc | 6
This is F** Up!
For headline readers:
Headline:
Two dose version of Johnson & Johnson vaccine 94% effective against Covid-19, study finds
For those that read to *and* understand the first paragraph:
"A two-dose version of Johnson & Johnson’s coronavirus vaccine provides 94% protection against symptomatic infection, the company said Tuesday"
Got that?
"**against symptomatic infection**"
And for those that read till paragraph 7:
"94% protection against moderate to severe Covid-19 in the United States"
Got that?
Not 94% protection - per the headline
and
Not 94% protection against symptomatic infection - per the first paragraph
But rather, 94% protection against moderate to severe Covid-19, per the 7th paragraph.
And...paragraph 7 notes that that is for the United States.
Then it says, "Globally, the two-dose regimen provided 75% protection against moderate-to-severe Covid-19, the company said."
It gets more complicated. The above figures were from a study of people receiving the booster after only 56 days.
For those that are getting the booster after 6 months, well...J&J does not appear to say (why not?)
but we do have *conjecture*:
A second study showed people given a booster shot six months or longer after their first dose had a 12-fold increase in antibodies — compared to a four-fold increase for people who got a second dose at two months. So protection should be stronger if people get boosters later, Dr. Dan Barouch, head of Beth Israel Deaconess’ Center for Virology and Vaccine Research, told CNN.“If you wait longer and have boost at six months or later then you likely will have better boost,” said Barouch.
You have to keep a watchful eye on the MSM.
There are also accidental telephone-game like errors.
Efficacy and effectiveness are two words that mean different things to a virologist.
Do reporters know this when they repeat information they are gathering?
And then there is the word "protection" to watch out for.
Posted by: librul | Sep 22 2021 18:37 utc | 7
Pepe Escobar recaps the CSTO/SCO Summits and provides further info and insights. On Afghanistan:
"Pakistani Foreign Minister Qureshi affirmed: “We are monitoring whether all the groups are included in the government or not.” The heart of the matter is that, from now on, Islamabad coordinates the SCO strategy on Afghanistan, and will broker Taliban negotiations with senior Tajik, Uzbek and Hazara leaders. This will eventually lead the way towards an inclusive government regionally recognized by SCO member-nations....
"As much as it may sound like an impossible dream, this is the unified message of Russia, China, Iran, India, Pakistan and the Central Asian 'stans.' One hopes that Pakistani PM Imran Khan is up to the task and ready for his SCO close-up."
Xi's UNGA speech is an extension of what was accomplished at the SCO Summit. A great turning has begun focusing on developing people instead of profit, although great resistance will be applied by the Outlaw Anglo Empire.
@Posted by: librul | Sep 22 2021 18:37 utc | 7
Sigh, I had spoken of "accidental telephone-game like errors",
and I did it too. Sigh.
I quoted the headline:
Not 94% *protection* - per the headline
but the headline says
94% *effective*
My bad.
Posted by: librul | Sep 22 2021 18:44 utc | 9
Efficacy vs effectiveness
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/what-difference-between-efficacy-and-effectiveness
Posted by: librul | Sep 22 2021 18:52 utc | 10
What is the existing reality for Max?
What weirdness emerges when one analysis [sic] the formation of Max's questions?
What is the history of Max up to now?
Max Bloc or Mental Block?
Click-bait questions, fantasy references, stubbornness, is Max perturbed?
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Max's "eat the rich" message leads nowhere, just like Bernie Sanders. Max offers readers nothing more than a false sense of satisfaction that someone is voicing their frustrations.
Max is against crypto-currencies which offer the only real chance to solve the problem that most concerns him (controls of money).
If Max was really interested in positive change, he wouldn't offend a community like the moa commentariat.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 22 2021 19:02 utc | 11
librul @Sep22 18:37 #7
We see the same sort of games in other areas. I pointed out that the AUKUS agreement includes "missile development". What is unsaid is that that essentially means that Australia has agreed to host missiles.
What kind of missiles? That is unspecified (deliberately). What kind of warheads? That to is unspecified. We are led to believe that it is conventional missiles for the subs. But that is merely an assumption because it seems like this 3-way pact is about subs.
USA could be setting up inter-continental ballistic missile sites and (when that is discovered) Morrison could rightfully insist that the public had been informed.
Informed? The media asks no questions about the missiles - they only talk about the juicy 'back story' of how France was screwed.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 22 2021 19:15 utc | 12
I had read previously about the “snarl” a type of marching done towards an enemy to let him know just how much you despise him but only recently did I come across a Youtube video of it.
Its performed at the Wagah border crossing between Pakistan and India. This video is from the Pakistan side of the ceremony (26:56 minutes long)
Posted by: Down South | Sep 22 2021 19:24 utc | 13
Pepe Escobar has a similar article at Asia Times that needs to be consulted as well as the one at The Cradle. Pepe digs into history to show the roots of our current affairs, somewhat akin to my comment to Gruff about dialectics on another thread.
"By the first century CE, all these Central Asian empires were linked – via long-distance trade – to Iran, India and China. That was the historical basis of the multiple, ancient Silk Roads – which linked China to the West for several centuries until the Age of Discovery configured the fateful Western maritime trade dominance.
"Arguably, even more than a series of interlinked historical phenomena, the denomination 'Silk Road' works best as a metaphor of cross-cultural connectivity. That’s what is at the heart of the Chinese concept of New Silk Roads. And average people across the heartland feel it because that’s imprinted in the collective unconscious in Iran, China and all Central Asian 'stans.'"
In both articles, Pepe touts Glenn Diesen's newest book, which isn't yet available. However, a synopsis paper Diesen wrote for the Journal of Eurasian Studies can be found here and provides lots of info.
Evergrande is a good opportunity for China to restructure and realign its long term policies. Overall, positive.
Easy Conclusions:
It is not a company specific issue but a structural & liquidity issue (property development sector). This will not become systemic. However, the company will manage its default. In summary, it is a manageable situation.
What is the exposer and the key numbers?
– Evergrande Bond Payments:
Onshore bonds: € 30.6 million
Offshore bonds: € 71.2 million
They will do better by paying the onshore bonds first and managing the offshore bonds payment latter.
– Chinese Property Sector
Total loans: 10 trillion renminbis
Loan loss reserve: 5.4 trillion renminbis
Annual turnover: 2 trillion renminbis
Not a systemic risk. No contagion risk.
Big Picture
It’s not a hedge fund with massive leveraged positions or a bank whose financial asset prices are hurtling towards zero. It has assets. The company can finish its development projects, sell them and start paying down debt. No solvency risk, only cash flow challenge.
Property sector is 25% of the gdp. It has become an active area for speculation and dependency for local administration in revenue.China has learned from Japan’s experience and its administration want to take the top off to created affordable housing. They have set target liabilities requirements to reduce leverage and make debt manageable going forward. A good proactive management.
Construction has been a prime driver of Chinese economy for many years. Now it is moving to a dual circulation economy with internal consumption being a key driver. So the administration will slow down the property inflation to direct funds to other growth sectors.
Most media channels are lost in hysteria. Bloomberg, Global Times, SCMP channels have good insights. Speculators use media to drive prices down as well as up, to buy on lows and sell on highs.
What is the best way to understand a challenging situation, such as Evergrande?
A good way to understand the situation is through insightful diagnosis of the key dimensions and questions.
What are the key dimensions to focus for Evergrande? Key numbers, Exposure, risks, players, scale of potential impact,...
What are the key questions:
– What is the diagnosis?
– What are its implications?
– What is the endgame?...
Common Prosperity
China’s government’s words have meanings and they’re reflected in policies.
What structural and systemic changes will happen in China?
Posted by: Max | Sep 22 2021 19:34 utc | 15
Evergrande, is a good opportunity for China to restructure and realign its long term policies. Overall, positive.
Easy Conclusions:
It is not a company specific issue but a structural & liquidity issue (property development sector). This will not become systemic. However, the company will manage its default. In summary, it is a manageable situation.
What is the exposer and the key numbers?
– Evergrande Bond Payments:
Onshore bonds: € 30.6 million
Offshore bonds: € 71.2 million
They will do better by paying the onshore bonds first and managing the offshore bonds payment overtime.
– Chinese Property Sector
Total loans: 10 trillion renminbis
Loan loss reserve: 5.4 trillion renminbis
Annual turnover: 2 trillion renminbis
Not a systemic risk. No contagion risk.
Big Picture
It’s not a hedge fund with massive leveraged positions or a bank whose financial asset prices are hurtling towards zero. It has assets. The company can finish its development projects, sell them and start paying down debt. No solvency risk, only cash flow challenge.
Property sector is 25% of the gdp. It has become an active area for speculation and dependency for local administration in revenue. China has learned from Japan’s experience and the administration want to take the top off to created affordable housing. They have set target liabilities requirements to reduce leverage and make debt manageable going forward. A good proactive management.
Construction has been a prime driver of Chinese economy for many years. Now it is moving to a dual circulation economy with internal consumption being a key driver. So the administration will slow down the property inflation to direct funds to other growth sectors.
Most media channels are lost in hysteria. Bloomberg, Global Times, SCMP channels have good insights. Speculators use media to drive prices down as well as up, to buy on lows and sell on highs.
What is the best way to understand a challenging situation, such as Evergrande?
A good way to understand the situation is through insightful diagnosis of the key dimensions and questions.
What are the key dimensions to focus for Evergrande? Key numbers, Exposure, risks, players, scale of potential impact,...
What are the key questions:
– What is the diagnosis?
– What are its implications?
– What is the endgame?...
Common Prosperity
China’s government’s words have meanings and they’re reflected in policies.
What structural and systemic changes will happen in China?
Posted by: Max | Sep 22 2021 19:36 utc | 16
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 22 2021 19:43 utc | 17
That sounds like Escobar "“we all live in an Aussie submarine” gambit (my excuses to Lennon-McCartney)"
Posted by: Paco | Sep 22 2021 19:54 utc | 18
Taliban forms their Suicide Battalion (as per BBC Farsi)in the North East province of Badakhshan (near Tajikistan & China border).
https://www.facebook.com/bbcdari/posts/2549694378508479
Posted by: Afgun | Sep 22 2021 19:54 utc | 19
Release of skin-penetrating nanoparticles and aerosols with "novel chimeric spike proteins" from bat coronaviruses in cave bats: drasticresearch.org/2021/09/21/the-defuse-project-documents/
Posted by: e | Sep 22 2021 20:07 utc | 20
A sniff of scandal.
What is the connection between S*it Keir Starmer, his position as Crown Prosecutor at the time of Assange's incarceration, and a rumoured destruction of eMails from that period?
I will rapidly note that I do not know what is going on - but I would love to find out if anyone can tell me.
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PS. It may already be too late as there could well have been a cover-up.
Posted by: Stonebird | Sep 22 2021 20:10 utc | 21
I love the smell of burning Asstrailia in the morning. A new deal with the Empire of Satan, more Coveed brutality at home. What's not to love about the delusional dying West?
Posted by: nook | Sep 22 2021 20:26 utc | 22
@Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 22 2021 19:15 utc | 12
Thanks Jackrabbit.
More on propaganda from our legacy news services.
The headline said:
Two dose version of Johnson & Johnson vaccine 94% effective against Covid-19, study finds
What it should have said, to be consistent with the body of the article, is
Two dose version of Johnson & Johnson vaccine 75% effective against Covid-19, study finds
The company’s ongoing Phase 2 trial of a two-dose regimen showed giving two doses 56 days apart provided 100% protection against severe Covid-19 and 94% protection against moderate to severe Covid-19 in the United States. Globally, the two-dose regimen provided 75% protection against moderate-to-severe Covid-19, the company said.
Was the above quote intentionally sneaky or did the reporter just not understand what "effective" means
when a virologist uses that word?
You can read about effectiveness vs efficacy from the standpoint of a virologist here:
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/what-difference-between-efficacy-and-effectiveness
The above quote talks about a *trial* done in the United States - that speaks of efficacy, 94% efficacy.
Whereas, in the real world -- "Globally" -- the effectiveness was 75%.
Posted by: librul | Sep 22 2021 20:27 utc | 23
Moderna beats Pfizer.. surprise? Pfizer needs a poster after 6 months. Moderna no..
Posted by: virgile | Sep 22 2021 20:33 utc | 24
Notice the weaselly nature of the assertion. The majority of covid infections lead only to moderate, mild or asymptomatic conditions. The symptoms are so mild that it is impossible to tell in such situations whether the vaccines are doing anything at all for the infected. It is wishful thinking and marketing hype. Pushing vaccines on the young and healthy is like flushing the doses down the toilet...we hope that's all it is.....but we will only know years down the line.
Posted by: nook | Sep 22 2021 20:37 utc | 25
@Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 22 2021 19:25 utc | 14
Thanks for the excellent article! The book is now available:
Posted by: Roger | Sep 22 2021 20:37 utc | 26
I don't think I am quite as old as Bernhard, but in the same kind of ball park. I am 68 years old, and after recovering from what may have been COVID, reasonably physically fit, but not as good as I was. As I am the youngest, and all my older brothers and sisters and Mum and Dad are dead, I have some experience with dealing with Funeral Directors. I don't care what you believe, about anything...but do you reckon this man is telling the truth - or making it up. I don't know about the Aussie bloke interviewing him, but I am almost certain this man is telling the truth...about the "COVID" Deaths and how it has varied over the last 18 months.
I hope he is allowed to continue his job, because he is obviously very good at it.
“FUNERAL DIRECTOR JOHN O’LOONEY INTERVIEWED BY MAX IGAN”
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9D5wVbHqX7Uf/
Tony
Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Sep 22 2021 20:46 utc | 28
While I was researching news about boosters for the Johnson&Johnson
I happened upon something that made my eyes roll.
There is a picture meant to target the Black and Hispanic communities.
The text under the picture says, "Former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa gets COVID-19 vaccination".
The picture is a close-up of the Mayor getting a vaccine jab. Both the Mayor and the person administering the jab
have dark skin. Thus I suggest this picture was targeting certain communities.
****But***, if you pay attention, you will see that the jab is being
***improperly*** administered !!
What a laugh. What a message.
Has Dr Fausti, in all the time he spent speaking to the public, taken just 3 minutes to
get the word out about the proper way to give a vaccine jab.
I really doubt it.
You do not squeeze the arm and make a bulge of skin.
The covid vaccine is supposed to be an intramuscular injection, so you
would pull apart with your fingers, not pinch, the skin to flatten it out.
Let us hope the Mayor's second jab was done by someone else.
Otherwise, the Mayor may soon be listed as a "breakout" case.
Posted by: librul | Sep 22 2021 20:52 utc | 29
snake #127 at last Week in Review
Great words, thank you.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 22 2021 21:31 utc | 30
It's a measure of how craven politics in Australia. Our last true statesman says plainly: "China is not a threat in any existential or other sense". Huge amounts of public revenue flow from sales of resources to China and Chinese students fund our universities. And yet the ALP is falling over itself to lick the shit off Uncle Sam's boot.
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 22 2021 21:35 utc | 31
Pepe's been busy. I'd asked him several weeks ago if he could provide an article dealing with Pakistan's involvement with the Taliban. He explains how this came about:
"After the Taliban named an interim government that was regarded as quite controversial inside Afghanistan and did not exactly please the nation’s Eurasian neighbors, I asked Dr. Ejaz Akram, Professor of Religion & World Politics at the National Defense University in Islamabad, for a detailed analysis. He sent me an astonishing, unique essay that is a must read for both East and West, presented here in a slightly edited version but with its mighty punch intact. Dr. Ejaz carries the necessary authority to not only map the regional chessboard but to suggest to the Taliban the righteous paths to heal Afghanistan after four decades of imposed war."
The preamble is quite logical if lengthy:
"Imagine if the French revolutionaries were asked to retain the elements of the kingdom of Louis XVI while forming the new republic to keep it all ‘inclusive’.
"Imagine that the American revolutionaries were asked to keep the British loyalists as a part of the new American republic to keep it all inclusive.
"Imagine that the Bolsheviks were asked to keep the Czarist loyalists in the government to keep it all inclusive....
"If all of the above cannot be, then what logic is the so-called international community practicing when asking the Taliban to keep those who aided and abetted the utterly unjustified foreign occupation as a part of their government to keep things all inclusive?
"What happened in Afghanistan was not a mere change of government. A puppet state responsible for killing their own people and spreading subversion in the region was overthrown. Any talk of government comes after the state formation is complete. To keep the elements of the Ancien Regime is to keep the fifth columnists alive who can undo their half-century long struggle to keep foreign rule out. It is like asking a surgeon not to remove all the cancerous tissue from a cancer patient as it might come in handy later." [My Emphasis]
The second bolded sentence is one rarely read even here, but that's clearly the fact of the matter. Everything flows from the facts of the matter as you'll discover as you read further. I'd like to read some arguments trying to counter what follows:
"Keep in mind that the Taliban took control of the entire country without a fight. The so-called Afghan National Army disbanded so easily and hugged the Taliban fighters and many even joined them. If public opinion is not behind a resistance movement, it can never succeed.
"This is the proof of Taliban’s inclusion. Unlike the Bolsheviks, the French revolutionaries, the American revolutionaries, the Saudis, the Iranians and many others who butchered their opponents on their path to power, the Taliban gave general amnesty to all. Who has more mercy in their hearts, the progenitors of the modern republics or the Taliban? We have never seen such a spectacle in recent human history. If this is not inclusion, then what is?"
Yes, Dr. Akram makes some powerful if controversial points; but then, I asked for Pakistan's POV, and I'm quite pleased to read it. Here's some very important points on Islamic government formation:
"Once the state is consolidated, a government should be formed in accordance to Islamic principles. Islam is neutral to the form of government. It only insists that regardless of the form of the government, the outcome must be justice. Whether it is a kingdom, a city-state, a democracy or any other form, the outcome must be justice.
"The Quran also suggests that justice is not equality. Equality is giving everyone the same; justice is giving whomever their due. Quran is kitab-al-insaf (book of justice) and not kitab-al-masawat (book of equality)."
I find the assumption that drives the following very curious:
"After the period of state consolidation, government formation should be achieved on the principle of meritocracy, and not multi-party democracy, in which global capitalists will turn democrats into their prostitutes and rip off the people. Honest and competent people from all ethnic backgrounds should be chosen, then trained and then run the government." [My Emphasis]
The assumption being that all democrats are corrupt at their roots and will succumb to the bribes; what is to stop the "honest and competent people" from similar behavior? A note on word usage. The term millat is used in place of nation. The good doctor's advice to the Taliban is multifaceted of which the following is key:
"The last big wave of Western oppression came to Afghanistan after 9/11. This wave will take about 2-4 more years to finally wane and subside permanently. When it wanes, like a tsunami it will take many unwanted bad things from your neighborhood also. Even though you do not want to transform your neighbors, many of us are already beginning to be transformed by your victory. The Kashmiri movement, the Khalistan independence movement, the Palestine movement, and the movement against corruption in Pakistan are already drawing inspiration from your victory against forces of oppression.
"Islam does not accommodate secular liberal political philosophy, from the womb of which the modern democratic fraud was born. Steer clear of it. Modernist Muslims will tell you that the concept of Shura is democracy. It is not. Shura is not Western style democracy, but a system of consultation prevalent at all tiers of society, from the realm of the family to the state. Use that at every level, as you have during your resistance years."
Some will recognize Shura to be similar to China's version of Democratic Centralism and governing systems devised by First Peoples. In his closing advice, the doctor suggests the sort of Union State relationship Belarus and Russia are forging because of how the colonial histories of the two nations contorted what was once natural:
"You say that Pakistan is your second home. If you form your government according to Islamic principles, it will eventually become a part of your first home. Afghanistan is not a nation. It is a territory that comprises many nations. Pakistan is not a nation either. It is a union of four big nationalities and a few smaller ones. It too came about in the name of Islamic values but its corrupt and westernized elites forgot the original mission. So many Pashtuns, Hazaras and Tajiks came to Pakistan successively through various wars and made it their home. You can too, not as a refugee, but as confederated citizen.
"Both Afghanistan and Pakistan have learnt that on matters of defense and foreign policy, both need to be on the same page, or else there will always be trouble. If we do integrate defense and foreign policy, the economic control of your resources can remain in the Afghan hands just as the economic control of Pakistani resources may remain in the Pakistani hands."
I hope the Taliban read this letter with great seriousness. As time passes and modern Eurasia matures, lines between all its nations will likely blur as the first genuine Human Nation emerges after 4-5 generations.
Down South @ 13
Watched your vid link, Brilliant choreography. No idea at all what the cultural context or references are, doesn’t matter. Spectacular.
Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 22 2021 21:56 utc | 33
karlof1 "but a system of consultation prevalent at all tiers of society, from the realm of the family to the state."
That I believe is the original human social structure. I saw it in the Aboriginal people I spent time with and from what I read looks to be present in China's social/governance structure.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2021 21:56 utc | 34
@135 JackRabbit
JackRabbit said:
Oligarchs are going to do what oligarchs do (they are power sponges).
The real problem is that the people don't demand democratic governance (and the accountability that that brings). Instead, they fall for divide and conquer tactics like hyper-partisanship and succumb to incessant propaganda that tells them who they are and what they want.
Huffing and puffing about banks and old families is just a diversion.
Tom: Yes. This is why I - and many others - are trying to blow the smoke off the whole "who is Empire" thing.
The problem is certainly "them" (Empire operations, oligarchs, et. al), but the big problem, and the big problem that we can actually _solve_, is us.
MOA readers excepted, most people (including me) don't read and think enough, and so have a partial or defective situational awareness.
And because we don't understand our situation, we can't do a good job of understanding what our interests are, and what action(s) to take - within our own purview/areas of influence - to get ourselves into a better place. We're really easy to manipulate.
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And, while I'm at it, Snake @127 previous thread, that was a great rant. Good summary.
I agree with JackRabbit's remarks to you about intellectual property. Innovation is a pain in the butt; hard, slow, expensive, risky, annoying. Got to pay those people well, or it won't happen. I think patents expire after 17 years, generally. Abuses do happen; Disney comes to mind.
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Sep 22 2021 21:59 utc | 35
After the AUKUS submarine deal, France withdrew its ambassadors to the USA and Australia. The French ambassador to the UK was allowed to stay, as the UK was only "a junior partner" in the deal.
Neither NATO nor EU are going to outlive us.
Posted by: Passerby | Sep 22 2021 22:06 utc | 36
I think all the wailing and gnashing of teeth coming from our Aussie friends is just a little disingenious.
The truth is out there, as they say.
Peter, why do you think I Stressed the basis on which Australia "went to war" in Iraq?
The fact that there had been no vote in Parliament to authorise the attack?
Why do you think I Stressed the Royal Prerogative as the probable legal basis?
But you didn't want to know, did you? You cussed me out for my efforts. Your prerogative, of course.
But now you can avoid it no longer.
Australians are SUBJECTS of Her Majesty under the laws of Australia (as interpreted).
Let me put it another way. WHY does the United States NEED the United Kingdom for this operation?
Why not just partner with Australia?
@Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 22 2021 19:02 utc | 11
That is the third or fourth time you have cross referred to that remark by Max. I think you have overplayed your hand.
The fact is that Peter DID jump into a discussion between us with the completely banal remark that he did (from memory).
"The Queen is only ceremonial"
The fact is that Peter HAS done EXACTLY what Max said he'd done.
You have called down such "interference" by pretending that you didn't insult Peter. @Sep19 19:55 #60, you wrote:@ Peter AU1 (#57), how long have you and Australians been hiding the reality of Australia, it not being sovereign? Very rarely Australians talk about their oath of allegiance... Light is shining on lies and myths!
I was leading him towards sovereignty residing in Queen Elizabeth and he cussed me out.
So a bit less of the "insult" bollocks, eh?
Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 22 2021 22:08 utc | 37
I believe this guy! He's the only one I strongly agree with at this time:
(Real URL is blocked here. Must think it is 'conservative'.)
@ JR
Over the past month, I’ve changed my mind about Max. Max sounds genuine to me. And not a troll. I think I’ve learned something from him/her. So, please don’t pick a fight.
I just read, in the other thread you link to, your defense of Peter Au. That’s fine. But, let’s not make a mountain out of a molehill. If, for comparison, someone were to berate me for something stupid my rulers do, I’d point out that I disagree with them and move on.
As for solutions, few of us have any.
You got more interesting stuff to write about, JR. I, for one, look forward to it. :-)
Posted by: oglalla | Sep 22 2021 22:18 utc | 39
Noticed that there are quite a bit of interests here at MOA regarding the Evergrande saga. I just read a news report (Hong Kong Commercial Daily, in Chinese):
http://www.hkcd.com/hkcdweb/content/2021/09/22/content_1295390.html
Link here for those who are interested and read Chinese. For those who don't, article basically says a white knight has yet to emerge, but the Real Estate branch of Evergrande has just concluded payment of 232 million Yuan as interest on domestic issued debt through off-market conduit. It is believed off-market conduit means likely payment in installments as well as perhaps reduced interest rate. The payment is for debt of 4000 million Yuan. Article also indicated the company is likely to be broken up into 4 pieces: Real Estate Development; Financial Services; Electric Vehicles; Other Commercial Activities.
Looks like it may survive.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Sep 22 2021 22:37 utc | 40
I posted this elsewhere it deserves to be re-posted. Former Australian PM, Kevin Rudd on the submarines, Le Monde:
Rudd, a Chinese speaking former diplomat, is harsh on China too.
Posted by: Paul | Sep 22 2021 22:38 utc | 41
Cleary
I don't give a shit what you want to call it and I don't bother with the legal eagle academic terminologies. We are tied to Uk withe the english monarch as our head of state, but the more insidious tie is to both the US and uk through the five-eyes agreement. I read our constitution, read what is publicly available on the five-eyes agreement and watch events.
You are basically arguing over me using legally correct terminology.
You attacked me on that before I had any interaction with you, and got offended when I told you to fuck off.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2021 22:49 utc | 42
John Cleary @Sep22 22:08 #37
OK, then.
oglalla @Sep22 22:18 #39
Your wisdom is very much appreciated. As well as the encouragement toward a kinder path.
!!
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 22 2021 22:51 utc | 44
I have been the one most often bringing up the anglosphere and the anglosphere deep state. You are starting to look like you are somebodies minder Cleary. Just here to keep an eye on things.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2021 22:57 utc | 45
@Posted by: Paul | Sep 22 2021 22:38 utc | 40
"Rudd, a Chinese speaking former diplomat, is harsh on China too."
I read the whole article, there is only one sentence referencing China and it is simply saying that the Aussies provided excellent propaganda for the Chinese - not harsh at all.
Posted by: Roger | Sep 22 2021 23:03 utc | 46
The elected representatives in the US not forgetting Israel during the pivot on China
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bill-provide-1-billion-israel-iron-dome-system-introduced-us-congress-2021-09-22/
"The leader of the U.S. House of Representatives Appropriations Committee introduced legislation on Wednesday to provide $1 billion to Israel to replenish its "Iron Dome" missile-defense system, a day after the funding was removed from a broader spending bill."
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2021 23:14 utc | 47
@ JR
Thanks, JR, for interpreting in the positive manner intended!
Posted by: oglalla | Sep 22 2021 23:26 utc | 48
US refusing visas for Russian officials traveling to the UN. Again.
https://tass.com/politics/1341169
Russia and China wish to retain the UN, but at some point in this reset that is occurring, The UN venue will have to be on territory that no country has sovereignty of. Chopping New York off the US and making it international territory would be a good thing.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2021 23:33 utc | 49
blues @ 38
Thanks for the link. I looked up his credentials, he seems legit, and downloaded the AAPS "Guide To Home Based COVID Treatment".
C:/Users/sam39/OneDrive/Documents/aaps-Guide-to-Home-Based-Covid-Treatment.pdf
Wondering if you saw the potentially explosive link provided by denk | Sep 17 2021 4:07 utc | 148
No conformation from another source, but it also looks legit.
Posted by: ReconFire | Sep 22 2021 23:47 utc | 50
My thoughts on China's position at the moment.
It is under threat of both conventional and nuclear attack - from the sea, and land based missiles in Japan and Australia. Under threat of a naval siege. US has ensured Japan is very hostile, causing trouble in Taiwan, nuclear armed India would like nothing better than to invade through Tibet and all this under conditions of quarantine due to the threat of biological war and possible disease outbreak...
Not a good place to be.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 0:09 utc | 51
Invading China through Tibet is a fantasy. It would be logistically impossible.
Posted by: Lysias | Sep 23 2021 0:17 utc | 52
Lysias 51
If Modi believes US will fight as well rather than 'leading from behind' the idiot Indians will attack. It is a threat China must always be prepared for along with everything else it must be prepared for. Even without any form of attack taking place, having to constantly be prepared for this multitude of very real threats will make China's trade and domestic advancement much more difficult. A huge amount of resources now have to go into defense.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 0:30 utc | 53
Jackrabbit,
Thank you.
I didn't pick you up on it the first time, nor the second.
Ok?
Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 23 2021 0:36 utc | 54
Posted by: Lysias | Sep 23 2021 0:17 utc | 51
Invading China through Tibet is a fantasy. It would be logistically impossible.
Waste of time answering moronic posts, Invading China via Mount Everest! Brilliant idea.
What one expect from some one that grew up reading Mudgee's Bodgie Chronicle.
Posted by: Grishka | Sep 23 2021 0:43 utc | 55
John Cleary
I suspect we are looking at the same thing from different angles. We can do a rest or if wish to come across high and mighty you will get 'cussed' as you call it.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 0:46 utc | 56
Librul @ 29:
I looked at that photo in the link. We can't even be sure that the photo is indeed a photo of the mayor being inoculated with the COVID-19 jab or just a generic photo of someone receiving an injection. I looked up photo images of Antonio Villaraigosa on Google and he does not look especially dark.
Otherwise yes I think you are correct that the skin should not be squeezed as there is a risk of the vaccine going into a blood vessel and perhaps causing a blood clot.
Posted by: Jen | Sep 23 2021 0:50 utc | 57
@ John Cleary (#37) & oglalla (#39), thanks for your kind words. Appreciate it!
Have a pleasant evening!
Posted by: Max | Sep 23 2021 0:58 utc | 58
Anglosphere/five-eyes... tangibles and intangibles. Tangibles are the various legal documents. Intangibles - S.H. a big money man taking a riding crop to his stockman/groomsman who picked up a hankerchief that turned out to be a gift from the queen to wipe the blood from his bosses spurs off the the horse, the cocky living in the faded glory of what his grandfather had built, photo of father with some royals taking pride of place on the mantle piece.
Legalities- lip service for the peasants and fools. Ask Meng, Assange, agent K and Collery. Lip service only required if the personalities are public.
Approach the anglosphere abyss away from the public eye and even the lip service to law is dispensed with.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 1:27 utc | 59
Lysias @ 51, Grishka @ 54:
So, um, what was all the fighting in Galwan River Valley in June last year, that resulted in 20 Indian soldiers dead (mostly from falling into the river itself or from exposure to sub-zero temperatures), about then?
Narendra Modi's government was moronic to think it could send soldiers into an environment hostile and dangerous enough as it is let alone encounter enemy forces better equipped to withstand sub-zero temperatures and altitude sickness, and with better knowledge of the physical terrain that they could use to their advantage.
Posted by: Jen | Sep 23 2021 1:32 utc | 60
John Cleary @Sep23 0:36 #53: Ok?
Yeah, we're ok.
I accepted what you said because I was already mostly convinced by oglalla. But I did wonder why, if what you wrote is true, Max didn't simply explain it as you have. He had the opportunity to do so multiple times (as you acknowledged).
Let's talk about YOUR choices.You lied and made a 'choice' to flip-off moa.
Max just waived this away with bullsh*t:
@ Jackrabbit (# 60), no digression or distraction. God is watching US! “In God We Trust.”
Why run away from such an inquiry if you have an easy explanation?
Also, while Peter may have insulted you, Max had gone further, calling into question Peter's integrity.
In any case, oglalla's wise words made me consider the situation the world now faces. The AUKUS pact indicates that war may be closer than we think. Maybe we shouldn't be warring amongst ourselves as a grave crisis draws near.
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You're question about why UK was needed is a very good one. We have previously discussed how all powers are reserved for the Sovereign save what is explicitly given Parliament. I expect that holds wherever the Queen is sovereign.
The phrase "working hand in glove" has been used to describe AUKUS. This implies a temporary accommodation by the 'glove' (Australia) for the needs of the hand (US) by the owner/sovereign of the 'glove' (UK).
Australia would have to approve any purchase, but there is no purchase at this time only an 18-month period in which to negotiate a purchase.
!!
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 23 2021 1:52 utc | 61
=> Max | Sep 22 2021 17:53 utc | 3
What is the existing global geopolitical reality?
It is actually the Pervasive Shadow Dictatorship (PSD).
This is the proper terminology.
Coming up next:
(+) Hedge Ranked Voting. Grant 5, or 4 votes to each of as many contenders as you prefer! with no more machine vote balloting nor tabulation.
(+) Abolition of patents, copyrights, and feudalistic 'intellectual property'.
(+) Freedom to do, make, and say all what we please.
(+) And no more murderous 'techno-progress'.
(+) No new nuclear or viral weapons.
--- Dance and love in real true freedom at last!
karlof1 @ 4
"The world's first aerosolized inhalable adenovirus type-5 vector-based COVID-19 vaccine (Ad5-nCoV) is progressing well toward obtaining emergency-use approval...
Pfizer is coming out with a covid treatment in pill form. I did some digging out of curiosity and found this...
Materials & methods: Interaction of ivermectin against the key proteins involved in SARS-CoV-2 pathogenesis were investigated through molecular docking and molecular dynamic simulation. Results: Ivermectin was found as a blocker of viral replicase, protease and human TMPRSS2, which could be the biophysical basis behind its antiviral efficiency. The antiviral action and ADMET profile of ivermectin was on par with the currently used anticorona drugs such as hydroxychloroquine and remdesivir. Conclusion: Our study enlightens the candidature of ivermectin as an effective drug for treating COVID-19.
And then further down this...
In this context, recent studies on the use of hydroxychloroquine (an antimalarial drug) in combination with the antibiotic azithromycin [11] and antiretroviral drugs like remdesivir, EIDD-2801 or favipiravir have shown effectiveness against SARS-CoV-2 [12]. Based on this, ivermectin has been recently reported as the most active agent against COVID-19 among the US FDA-approved drugs in vitro trial
Exploring the binding efficacy of ivermectin against the key proteins of SARS-CoV-2 pathogenesis: an in silico approach
This is an National Institute of Health study. Note the date, previous to the study they knew that hydroxychloroquine was effective.
Note the date again. The next day Pfizer come out with its pill press release on start of phase one clinical trials.
Pfizer Initiates Phase 1 Study of Novel Oral Antiviral Therapeutic Agent Against SARS-CoV-2
It sounds like they know it works but they do not know why. They also forbid its use with ridicule and their police powers to punish doctors. It appears to me that the new Pfizer pill is based on hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.
Did we just witness genocide by failure to treat a virus with antivirals? Calling Covid idiot to covid genocidal maniacs.
Posted by: circumspect | Sep 23 2021 2:36 utc | 63
circumspect 62
It is interesting US big phama have put that out. Ivermectin is now a generic drug so it is a bit odd Russia and China have not put out anything on its effectiveness as an anti viral
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 2:48 utc | 65
Power versus law? Pervasive Shadow Dictatorships (PSD) have won, 95% of the time. They have the daggers. Money can only buy the weak. (Which there are always plenty of.)
There will be no "world wars", only threats of such, to frighten the herd animals most have become.
Instead, the malignant oligarchs will keep gathering power and influence, until they've achieved their goal, "the new global feudalism".
And, through the workers willful ignorance and inaction, will deserve it all.....
Posted by: vetinLA | Sep 23 2021 3:09 utc | 67
Discussion by economist R. Wolff on Evergrande.
https://dl.thomhartmann.com/private/podcasts/2021_0922_thp-092221-hour3.mp3
Posted by: vetinLA | Sep 23 2021 3:16 utc | 68
@38 blues
Thanks for the link to Dr. Peter McCullough. I'm very pleased to see him looking so collected and authoritative. I worry about all these doctors who have had to parse a tremendous amount of corruption theory in a very short time - and all while treating countless real patients through life and death.
One day we will look back and realize how thankful we can be that the ones who spoke up during this pandemic and called out the corrupt medical sham of the west for what it is, were also the most renowned, most published, most cited and most highly qualified in their fields of medicine and science. Their credentials were hard to put down, although plenty of shit mainstream publications tried to cast them as "fringe".
I feel this now, and have for some time, how enormously lucky we have been that our best doctors are also the ones who have spoken out against this medical malpractice that underlies the pandemic crisis we find ourselves in. Countless other medical professionals, those without the position that enables them to speak and still keep their jobs, are also immensely grateful. People like McCullough speak for a large constituency of silent fellow travelers.
If you trust McCullough, may I suggest others equally trustworthy: Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Tess Lawrie, Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Mobeen Syed (Dr. Been), Bret Weinstein (Dark Horse Podcast)...and all those others I wish I could remember as I write this.
A good search engine will find all of these for you, although I imagine you're well familiar with them all.
Posted by: Grieved | Sep 23 2021 3:21 utc | 69
first day of fall or autumn.. beautiful day here on the westcoast too... in the 'no news is good news' dept, lol...
Posted by: james | Sep 23 2021 3:23 utc | 70
Note well: always copy before posting - because the censor has no mercy (I posted and it was grabbed for moderation - sorry b, more work for you in the morning)
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@38 blues
Thanks for the link to Dr. Peter McCullough. I'm very pleased to see him looking so collected and authoritative. I worry about all these doctors who have had to parse a tremendous amount of corruption theory in a very short time - and all while treating countless real patients through life and death.
One day we will look back and realize how thankful we can be that the ones who spoke up during this pandemic and called out the corrupt medical sham of the west for what it is, were also the most renowned, most published, most cited and most highly qualified in their fields of medicine and science. Their credentials were hard to put down, although plenty of shit mainstream publications tried to cast them as "fringe".
I feel this now, and have for some time, how enormously lucky we have been that our best doctors are also the ones who have spoken out against this medical malpractice that underlies the pandemic crisis we find ourselves in. Countless other medical professionals, those without the position that enables them to speak and still keep their jobs, are also immensely grateful. People like McCullough speak for a large constituency of silent fellow travelers.
If you trust McCullough, may I suggest others equally trustworthy: [insert redacted names here, that the establishment filter removed, purely on their names, no links] redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted...and all those others I wish I could remember as I write this.
Posted by: Grieved | Sep 23 2021 3:27 utc | 72
@71 - oops
I spoke too soon, and from too much suspicion. The world is nicer than I thought. Sorry for the dupe.
Posted by: Grieved | Sep 23 2021 3:30 utc | 73
vetinLA "frighten the herd animals most have become"
Those who look outside the herd mentality are few. But than having become, it is an intrinsic part of humane nature. Those who go outside that are few - the ferals that don't run with the mob. I get angry at times - lot of the time when I see people going along with whatever the current propaganda happens to be. But always is comes back to what we are as humans. Understanding that is also the understanding that those totally brain washed by a religion or ideology sometimes need extermination, be it the various crowds of US funded jihadis or the 25% voting block of happy clappers who believe the israelites are gods chosen people.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 3:33 utc | 74
@ 63 peter au... it is power that makes the laws...
Posted by: james | Sep 23 2021 3:24 utc | 70
And as such, is there any requirement to follow the laws power have set out for the peasants?
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 3:42 utc | 75
@Posted by: Jen | Sep 23 2021 0:50 utc | 56
You posted:
"We can't even be sure that the photo is indeed a photo of the mayor being inoculated with the COVID-19 jab or just a generic photo of someone receiving an injection."
A quick search shows other angles of the mayor getting the shot.
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/gOJeRU3d_YkBNwMX9xjPEA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTQ2MS41NA--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/WnxciuSOLzIhexFcCLlpWg--~B/aD05ODI7dz0xNTAwO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en/la_times_articles_853/dd754682991f664170a29d80f00e1853">https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/WnxciuSOLzIhexFcCLlpWg--~B/aD05ODI7dz0xNTAwO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en/la_times_articles_853/dd754682991f664170a29d80f00e1853">https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/gOJeRU3d_YkBNwMX9xjPEA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTQ2MS41NA--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/WnxciuSOLzIhexFcCLlpWg--~B/aD05ODI7dz0xNTAwO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en/la_times_articles_853/dd754682991f664170a29d80f00e1853
Here is one article written by his daughter. She should know her dad.
https://news.yahoo.com/column-dad-covid-19-skeptic-140017718.html
Or are you saying that nothing can be absolutely trusted, it could be a body-double or something?
Regardless, the obvious target of the propaganda picture was the Black and Hispanic communities.
Came across his Covid Vaccination Record Card, :
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/former-los-angeles-mayor-antonio-villaraigosa-holds-his-news-photo/1230842993
I know, that is all overkill, way way overkill.
I am glad that you agree that it was a picture of a vaccine jab being improperly administered.
You didn't say whether you agreed or not that it was a propaganda picture targeting the Black and Hispanic communities.
The jab was being administered by:
"Darlene Dickens-Jeffers, right, senior manager of infection prevention at AltaMed Health Services, gives a Moderna COVID-19 vaccination to former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who wants to send a message to encourage other seniors to get their vaccination shots at AltaMed Health Services Medical and Dental Group in Anaheim Thursday, Jan. 28, 2021. (Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times)"
She is a "senior manager" -- oh,oh. Is she a desk jockey?
She wanted to be in the picture with the mayor
instead of letting one of the working nurses do it.
If she hadn't had the picture taken no one would do an internet search on her.
I did but I don't feel comfortable posting what I found.
Posted by: librul | Sep 23 2021 3:46 utc | 76
James
"is there any requirement to follow the laws power have set out"
That should have been is there any requirement for power to follow the laws they have set.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 3:47 utc | 77
peter - apparently not! money buys power too, so there is that as well... fact is those in power have always written the laws.. it is naive to think any different..
Posted by: james | Sep 23 2021 3:51 utc | 78
This is an excellent opportunity for China to scrap the nine-dash-line line and start talking military alliance with ASEAN.
If only they can get away with the nationalist hawks inside the PRC who want to reinforce imperialist claim.
Posted by: Smith | Sep 23 2021 3:51 utc | 79
Peter AU1 @ 64
It is interesting US big phama have put that out. Ivermectin is now a generic drug so it is a bit odd Russia and China have not put out anything on its effectiveness as an anti viral
It is very odd. It appears they are following the same path as the Anglo Americans as far as vaccinations. I believe Japan is now using antivirals and Russia is joining forces with a similar drug.
Russia Approves Generic Version of Avigan for COVID-19 & Purportedly in Talks to Supply Saudi Arabia
Avigan is another name for Favipiravir which is mentioned as effective in the NIH report I linked.
Genocide? I think so.
Posted by: circumspect | Sep 23 2021 3:52 utc | 80
@ circumspect
Japan's Covid situation is actually getting much, much better, I wonder if it has anything to do with that ivermectin or because of vaccinations.
Unfortunately, Vietnam is still stuck in lockdown, I'm surprised CPV hasn't looked into other drugs to cure it. Oh well, but we are getting the Cuban vaccines.
Posted by: Smith | Sep 23 2021 3:56 utc | 81
You look into exact legal definition of the terminology of laws made by the abyss, contact others who are looking into it receive an unofficial visit, you begin to understand the difference between law and power. Especially so if you have a family.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 3:56 utc | 82
sinophobia in five liars land is bottom up, bi partisan and gender neutral.
Exhibit B
Daisy
Jews are very crude..
Asian jews are even worse.
Other asians are very nice tho
sic
Wonder what constitute a nice Asian ?
'Man' with exquisite manner https://onekoreanetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/US-Antony-Blinken-Lloyd-Austin-Yoshihide-Suga-March-16-2021-e1615981305581-1024x604.jpgThe ATM.
Bush
'Jp is our private ATM
The beauty is ...we dun even need a pin no
hehehehe'The bulldog
Suga
'TW is so near, its our national interest TW is our joint protectorate ,
How about anglos white aryan cousins.. ?
Er, those perennial sepoys ?
Kamala Harris Vows US Will 'Open' South China Sea After It Deals With 'Priority' AfghanistanKamala Harris to Work Against China in Southeast Asia Tour
Kamala Harris ends Asia tour with fresh jab at China
Asia Tour of Kamala Harris All About Smearing China
Kamala Harris blasts China during first trip to Asia as US Vice President
Nikki Haley: US corporations need to shed their China hypocrisy, practice what they preach to Americans [She's asking the gringo to quit China en mass pronto..now]Nikki Haley stokes anger at China to build 2024 election support
Nations That Attend Beijing Olympics Will Give China ‘Propaganda Victory’
Nikki Haley rips Gen. Milley over alleged phone calls to China
Why China Keeps Me Up At Night
https://www.facebook.com/GlennBeck/videos/322805269476061/
Last but not least...
The only nice chinaman is a prostrate chinaman
1901
Genzi compensation
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d6/66/af/d666af4aadd816d8862e033366cd4ff5.jpg
What follows is 120 yr humiliation..
============================
FF
2020
China finally stand up and.....talk back !
https://p2.itc.cn/q_70/images03/20210319/45bd45c8cd2348efa7c3723d1d1c95f3.jpeg
We aint gonna take this shit no more.
Those damned asian jews, so very crude,.
hehehhehe
Posted by: denk | Sep 23 2021 4:02 utc | 83
@ Smith 78
Sure, lets see where you economic/social idol Xi Jinping stands on that "nine-dash-line"!
Who supports these extra territorial claims, some "nationalistic hawks inside the PRC" or Xi himself too?
India, Bhutan and Tajikistan are asking themselves that same question.
Posted by: Antonym | Sep 23 2021 4:08 utc | 84
circumspect 79
There's something going on not visible to the 'general public'. Thanks.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 4:10 utc | 85
james 77
The main driver of power? Money is a tool. The Takfiri suicide bombers don't do it for money. Similar too anglo superiority.
But when it comes down to backs to the wall, rats in a corner, it is this intangible that will drive them, no different to Hitlers Germany not surrendering until the soviet flag was flying on the Reichstag.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 4:18 utc | 86
George W. Bush is now an icon of the left?
I guess I missed that party.
Watch: 'Liberal Media Darling' George W. Bush Confronted By Iraq Veteran
Following a 9/11 memorial speech in which he directly compared supporters of President Trump to Al Qaeda terrorists, Bush is being held up as an icon by the left.
It fits though. The CIA/FBI and the rest of the totalitarian tribe of security agencies
are now favorites of Democrats.
I would say that the world is now upside down
but that would be too mild.
Posted by: librul | Sep 23 2021 4:20 utc | 87
@ Antonym
To be fair, under Xi, the situation is stable at least and they are negotiating the Code of Conduct, but it's taking a long time for some reasons.
Posted by: Smith | Sep 23 2021 4:23 utc | 88
Brought up as we are in the west, we look at things in a very materialistic way james, yet intangibles are a big force.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 4:26 utc | 89
Antonym & smith
Re the 9 dash line. Escobar wrote something about SCS area being a common ground. I see a dash line rather than a solid line and I have the impression that rather than claiming everything as theirs, China is saying it is part of that common area.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 4:31 utc | 90
Smith @ 80
The posts @62 and @79 show that China, Russia, and Japan are following suit with an antiviral. India is another story.
MSN Showcases the Amazing Uttar Pradesh Turnaround—The Ivermectin-based Home Medicine Kits
Posted by: circumspect | Sep 23 2021 4:32 utc | 91
denk @ 82
Kamala Harris and Nikki Haley are reliable script readers. Like peanut butter and jelly, like Bush and Clinton.
librul @ 86
George W. Bush is now an icon of the left?
I guess I missed that party.
See what Trump did to the left? Even Bush looks good to them now. They were mostly there anyway in spirit and action.
Posted by: circumspect | Sep 23 2021 4:39 utc | 92
"The assumption being that all democrats are corrupt at their roots and will succumb to the bribes; what is to stop the "honest and competent people"" - karlof @ 33
That's right karlof, you merely shifted the problem to a different paradigm or level.
I have heard a number of dialectic solutions to corruption here (snake) but am working on a circle of accountability idea.
And that solves a similar problem, but not the root problem of corruption in the broadest sense.
So I mainly speculate about gaming the system. We find it irresistible.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 23 2021 4:46 utc | 93
@ Peter AU1
They are claiming it as "historical grounds", which give them a lot of ambiguity and leeways, and ASEAN won't stand to that.
It's basically the only hurdle between China and ASEAN relationship.
Posted by: Smith | Sep 23 2021 4:48 utc | 94
@ circumspect
When the virus was going in China in 2020, there was a lot of advertisement for certain medicines in China going on in social-media. I suppose one of them did do the tricks and cure Covid.
Posted by: Smith | Sep 23 2021 4:49 utc | 95
Smith 93
China has very old records of claiming sovereignty over the SCS and the various reefs and islands. Vietnam also has several centuries of records claiming sovereignty.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 4:57 utc | 96
@ Peter AU1
Vietnam's current claims actually follows UNGOS, no more. We suggest China to follow UNGOS too, that's all.
Posted by: Smith | Sep 23 2021 4:59 utc | 97
circumspect 91
Nikki Haley stokes anger at China to build 2024 election support
Remember how bush/clintons/obama/trump/biden etc etc tried to outdo each other on China bashing to garner votes?
Works like a charm every time,.
It sure looks like there's a vast market for this yellow peril thingee in five liars's landscape !
hehehhe
Posted by: denk | Sep 23 2021 5:05 utc | 98
peter - i don't disagree with anything you say to me... depends on the person i suppose.. i try to understand what drives people.. money isn't the only thing.. ideology is also a driving force..
Posted by: james | Sep 23 2021 5:06 utc | 99
Below is a quote from a Glen Greewald posting about the Hunter Biden emails in the news
"
A young reporter for Politico, Ben Schreckinger, has published a new book entitled "The Bidens: Inside the First Family’s Fifty-Year Rise to Power.” To his great credit, he spent months investigating the key documents published by The New York Post and found definitive proof that these emails and related documents are indisputably authentic.
"
What will bring down the corrupt duopoly of the money party in the US?
I keep shaking my head and having to say that only externally can this shit show be stopped and it is up to the China axis to make that happen or not.....time will tell
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 23 2021 5:15 utc | 100
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