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September 22, 2021
Open Thread 2021-73
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Indian Punchline on Iran’s SCO membership: Posted by: Prof | Sep 22 2021 17:48 utc | 1 The key question is: will Putin’s successor get fed up with Pindo antics and just annihilate Pindostan? Posted by: Albertde | Sep 22 2021 17:52 utc | 2 What is the existing global geopolitical reality? Posted by: Max | Sep 22 2021 17:53 utc | 3 Xi’s UNGA Speech transcript details China’s potent vision. Article explaining Xi’s pledge on stopping coal-fired projects overseas is very extensive. Getting vaccinated will soon be much easier: @ karlof1 | Sep 22 2021 18:03 utc | 4 with the response on other Open Thread…thanks Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 22 2021 18:33 utc | 6 This is F** Up!
You have to keep a watchful eye on the MSM. Posted by: librul | Sep 22 2021 18:37 utc | 7 Pepe Escobar recaps the CSTO/SCO Summits and provides further info and insights. On Afghanistan: @Posted by: librul | Sep 22 2021 18:37 utc | 7 Posted by: librul | Sep 22 2021 18:44 utc | 9 Efficacy vs effectiveness Posted by: librul | Sep 22 2021 18:52 utc | 10 What is the existing reality for Max? Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 22 2021 19:02 utc | 11 librul @Sep22 18:37 #7 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 22 2021 19:15 utc | 12 I had read previously about the “snarl” a type of marching done towards an enemy to let him know just how much you despise him but only recently did I come across a Youtube video of it. Posted by: Down South | Sep 22 2021 19:24 utc | 13 Pepe Escobar has a similar article at Asia Times that needs to be consulted as well as the one at The Cradle. Pepe digs into history to show the roots of our current affairs, somewhat akin to my comment to Gruff about dialectics on another thread. Evergrande is a good opportunity for China to restructure and realign its long term policies. Overall, positive. Posted by: Max | Sep 22 2021 19:34 utc | 15 Evergrande, is a good opportunity for China to restructure and realign its long term policies. Overall, positive. Posted by: Max | Sep 22 2021 19:36 utc | 16 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 22 2021 19:43 utc | 17 Posted by: Paco | Sep 22 2021 19:54 utc | 18 Taliban forms their Suicide Battalion (as per BBC Farsi)in the North East province of Badakhshan (near Tajikistan & China border). Posted by: Afgun | Sep 22 2021 19:54 utc | 19 Release of skin-penetrating nanoparticles and aerosols with “novel chimeric spike proteins” from bat coronaviruses in cave bats: drasticresearch.org/2021/09/21/the-defuse-project-documents/ Posted by: e | Sep 22 2021 20:07 utc | 20 A sniff of scandal. Posted by: Stonebird | Sep 22 2021 20:10 utc | 21 I love the smell of burning Asstrailia in the morning. A new deal with the Empire of Satan, more Coveed brutality at home. What’s not to love about the delusional dying West? Posted by: nook | Sep 22 2021 20:26 utc | 22 @Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 22 2021 19:15 utc | 12
Was the above quote intentionally sneaky or did the reporter just not understand what “effective” means Posted by: librul | Sep 22 2021 20:27 utc | 23 Moderna beats Pfizer.. surprise? Pfizer needs a poster after 6 months. Moderna no.. Posted by: virgile | Sep 22 2021 20:33 utc | 24 Notice the weaselly nature of the assertion. The majority of covid infections lead only to moderate, mild or asymptomatic conditions. The symptoms are so mild that it is impossible to tell in such situations whether the vaccines are doing anything at all for the infected. It is wishful thinking and marketing hype. Pushing vaccines on the young and healthy is like flushing the doses down the toilet…we hope that’s all it is…..but we will only know years down the line. Posted by: nook | Sep 22 2021 20:37 utc | 25 @Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 22 2021 19:25 utc | 14 Posted by: Roger | Sep 22 2021 20:37 utc | 26 Evergrande, the house of cards. Posted by: Paul | Sep 22 2021 20:38 utc | 27 I don’t think I am quite as old as Bernhard, but in the same kind of ball park. I am 68 years old, and after recovering from what may have been COVID, reasonably physically fit, but not as good as I was. As I am the youngest, and all my older brothers and sisters and Mum and Dad are dead, I have some experience with dealing with Funeral Directors. I don’t care what you believe, about anything…but do you reckon this man is telling the truth – or making it up. I don’t know about the Aussie bloke interviewing him, but I am almost certain this man is telling the truth…about the “COVID” Deaths and how it has varied over the last 18 months. Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Sep 22 2021 20:46 utc | 28 While I was researching news about boosters for the Johnson&Johnson Posted by: librul | Sep 22 2021 20:52 utc | 29 snake #127 at last Week in Review Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 22 2021 21:31 utc | 30 Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 22 2021 21:35 utc | 31 Pepe’s been busy. I’d asked him several weeks ago if he could provide an article dealing with Pakistan’s involvement with the Taliban. He explains how this came about: Down South @ 13 Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 22 2021 21:56 utc | 33 karlof1 “but a system of consultation prevalent at all tiers of society, from the realm of the family to the state.” Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2021 21:56 utc | 34 @135 JackRabbit Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Sep 22 2021 21:59 utc | 35 After the AUKUS submarine deal, France withdrew its ambassadors to the USA and Australia. The French ambassador to the UK was allowed to stay, as the UK was only “a junior partner” in the deal. Posted by: Passerby | Sep 22 2021 22:06 utc | 36 I think all the wailing and gnashing of teeth coming from our Aussie friends is just a little disingenious.
I was leading him towards sovereignty residing in Queen Elizabeth and he cussed me out. Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 22 2021 22:08 utc | 37 I believe this guy! He’s the only one I strongly agree with at this time: @ JR Posted by: oglalla | Sep 22 2021 22:18 utc | 39 Noticed that there are quite a bit of interests here at MOA regarding the Evergrande saga. I just read a news report (Hong Kong Commercial Daily, in Chinese): Posted by: Oriental Voice | Sep 22 2021 22:37 utc | 40 I posted this elsewhere it deserves to be re-posted. Former Australian PM, Kevin Rudd on the submarines, Le Monde: Posted by: Paul | Sep 22 2021 22:38 utc | 41 Cleary Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2021 22:49 utc | 42 John Cleary @Sep22 22:08 #37 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 22 2021 22:51 utc | 44 I have been the one most often bringing up the anglosphere and the anglosphere deep state. You are starting to look like you are somebodies minder Cleary. Just here to keep an eye on things. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2021 22:57 utc | 45 @Posted by: Paul | Sep 22 2021 22:38 utc | 40 Posted by: Roger | Sep 22 2021 23:03 utc | 46 The elected representatives in the US not forgetting Israel during the pivot on China Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2021 23:14 utc | 47 @ JR Posted by: oglalla | Sep 22 2021 23:26 utc | 48 US refusing visas for Russian officials traveling to the UN. Again. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2021 23:33 utc | 49 blues @ 38 Posted by: ReconFire | Sep 22 2021 23:47 utc | 50 My thoughts on China’s position at the moment. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 0:09 utc | 51 Invading China through Tibet is a fantasy. It would be logistically impossible. Posted by: Lysias | Sep 23 2021 0:17 utc | 52 Lysias 51 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 0:30 utc | 53 Jackrabbit, Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 23 2021 0:36 utc | 54 Posted by: Lysias | Sep 23 2021 0:17 utc | 51 Posted by: Grishka | Sep 23 2021 0:43 utc | 55 John Cleary Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 0:46 utc | 56 Librul @ 29: Posted by: Jen | Sep 23 2021 0:50 utc | 57 @ John Cleary (#37) & oglalla (#39), thanks for your kind words. Appreciate it! Posted by: Max | Sep 23 2021 0:58 utc | 58 Anglosphere/five-eyes… tangibles and intangibles. Tangibles are the various legal documents. Intangibles – S.H. a big money man taking a riding crop to his stockman/groomsman who picked up a hankerchief that turned out to be a gift from the queen to wipe the blood from his bosses spurs off the the horse, the cocky living in the faded glory of what his grandfather had built, photo of father with some royals taking pride of place on the mantle piece. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 1:27 utc | 59 Lysias @ 51, Grishka @ 54: Posted by: Jen | Sep 23 2021 1:32 utc | 60 John Cleary @Sep23 0:36 #53: Ok?
Max just waived this away with bullsh*t:
Why run away from such an inquiry if you have an easy explanation? Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 23 2021 1:52 utc | 61 => Max | Sep 22 2021 17:53 utc | 3 karlof1 @ 4 Posted by: circumspect | Sep 23 2021 2:36 utc | 63 circumspect 62 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 2:48 utc | 65 Power versus law? Pervasive Shadow Dictatorships (PSD) have won, 95% of the time. They have the daggers. Money can only buy the weak. (Which there are always plenty of.) There will be no “world wars”, only threats of such, to frighten the herd animals most have become. Posted by: vetinLA | Sep 23 2021 3:09 utc | 67 Discussion by economist R. Wolff on Evergrande. Posted by: vetinLA | Sep 23 2021 3:16 utc | 68 @38 blues Posted by: Grieved | Sep 23 2021 3:21 utc | 69 first day of fall or autumn.. beautiful day here on the westcoast too… in the ‘no news is good news’ dept, lol… Posted by: james | Sep 23 2021 3:23 utc | 70 Note well: always copy before posting – because the censor has no mercy (I posted and it was grabbed for moderation – sorry b, more work for you in the morning) Posted by: Grieved | Sep 23 2021 3:27 utc | 72 @71 – oops Posted by: Grieved | Sep 23 2021 3:30 utc | 73 vetinLA “frighten the herd animals most have become” Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 3:33 utc | 74 @ 63 peter au… it is power that makes the laws… Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 3:42 utc | 75 @Posted by: Jen | Sep 23 2021 0:50 utc | 56 Posted by: librul | Sep 23 2021 3:46 utc | 76 James Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 3:47 utc | 77 peter – apparently not! money buys power too, so there is that as well… fact is those in power have always written the laws.. it is naive to think any different.. Posted by: james | Sep 23 2021 3:51 utc | 78 This is an excellent opportunity for China to scrap the nine-dash-line line and start talking military alliance with ASEAN. Posted by: Smith | Sep 23 2021 3:51 utc | 79 Peter AU1 @ 64 Posted by: circumspect | Sep 23 2021 3:52 utc | 80 @ circumspect Posted by: Smith | Sep 23 2021 3:56 utc | 81 You look into exact legal definition of the terminology of laws made by the abyss, contact others who are looking into it receive an unofficial visit, you begin to understand the difference between law and power. Especially so if you have a family. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 3:56 utc | 82 sinophobia in five liars land is bottom up, bi partisan and gender neutral.
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How about anglos white aryan cousins.. ?
Last but not least…
Those damned asian jews, so very crude,. Posted by: denk | Sep 23 2021 4:02 utc | 83 @ Smith 78 Posted by: Antonym | Sep 23 2021 4:08 utc | 84 circumspect 79 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 4:10 utc | 85 james 77 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 4:18 utc | 86 George W. Bush is now an icon of the left?
It fits though. The CIA/FBI and the rest of the totalitarian tribe of security agencies Posted by: librul | Sep 23 2021 4:20 utc | 87 @ Antonym Posted by: Smith | Sep 23 2021 4:23 utc | 88 Brought up as we are in the west, we look at things in a very materialistic way james, yet intangibles are a big force. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 4:26 utc | 89 Antonym & smith Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 4:31 utc | 90 Smith @ 80 Posted by: circumspect | Sep 23 2021 4:32 utc | 91 denk @ 82 Posted by: circumspect | Sep 23 2021 4:39 utc | 92 “The assumption being that all democrats are corrupt at their roots and will succumb to the bribes; what is to stop the “honest and competent people”” – karlof @ 33 Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 23 2021 4:46 utc | 93 @ Peter AU1 Posted by: Smith | Sep 23 2021 4:48 utc | 94 @ circumspect Posted by: Smith | Sep 23 2021 4:49 utc | 95 Smith 93 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2021 4:57 utc | 96 @ Peter AU1 Posted by: Smith | Sep 23 2021 4:59 utc | 97 circumspect 91
Remember how bush/clintons/obama/trump/biden etc etc tried to outdo each other on China bashing to garner votes? Posted by: denk | Sep 23 2021 5:05 utc | 98 peter – i don’t disagree with anything you say to me… depends on the person i suppose.. i try to understand what drives people.. money isn’t the only thing.. ideology is also a driving force.. Posted by: james | Sep 23 2021 5:06 utc | 99 Below is a quote from a Glen Greewald posting about the Hunter Biden emails in the news Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 23 2021 5:15 utc | 100 |
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