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September 9, 2021
Open Thread 2021-69
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https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1436076088820649986 Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Sep 10 2021 16:41 utc | 101 The Jacobson decision depends upon the states’ having police power. The federal government does not have police power. That’s why a constitutional amendment was needed for federal prohibition of alcohol. Posted by: Lysias | Sep 10 2021 16:44 utc | 102 The Jacobson decision depends upon the states’ having police power. The federal government does not have police power. That’s why a constitutional amendment was needed for federal prohibition of alcohol. Posted by: Lysias | Sep 10 2021 16:44 utc | 103 Pacifica Advocate @78– Jackrabbit @ 11 So err… without attributing it to you… I uh… just posted it as breaking news here and there. The link is at the end. Lol. Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 10 2021 16:58 utc | 105 “It turned out to be herring farts. For 15 years Sweden thought enemy submarines were invading its territory” – urblintz @ 23 Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 10 2021 17:25 utc | 106 Freudian slip?
Aussie Public Health Chief Says COVID Contact Tracing is Part of “New World Order” Posted by: Down South | Sep 10 2021 17:36 utc | 107 @86 jinn Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 10 2021 17:42 utc | 108 these open threads get eaten up with a focus on covid and it does get tiring for many, but not all of us…. cheers and thank you for providing this valuable platform for discussion and learning… Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 10 2021 17:43 utc | 109 What does this mean in plain language please? Posted by: BM | Sep 10 2021 17:46 utc | 110 Does anyone still believe in Lee Harvey Osama? – gottlieb @ 31 Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 10 2021 17:58 utc | 111 Here’s the transcript of today’s meeting of the Russian Pobeda (Victory) Organising Committee where I learned of another post WW2 War Crime Trial I’d not know about before, the 1949 Khabarovsk War Crime Trials. Posted by: BM | Sep 10 2021 18:09 utc | 112 “The waters have been so muddied, that I dont think anyone is going to know the truth about anything for a long, long time if ever. You pick a topic, I can almost guarantee that there are opposing sides to it, and there is literally no way to discern the truth. LITERALLY NO WAY TO DISCERN THE TRUTH ABOUT ALMOST EVERYTHING.” – David F @ 34 Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 10 2021 18:14 utc | 113 @ 57 The ‘war crime against humanity’ usually promoted by the winners over the losers is only a cruel joke because war is itself a crime, especially against its noncombatants. Posted by: BM | Sep 10 2021 18:22 utc | 114 “@36 Jackrabbit Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 10 2021 18:30 utc | 115 Nord stream 2 is now complete.. That happens when diddling powers try to blackmail bigger ones without having trump cards, they get ignored and both Poland and Ukraine created this situation by trying to punch far above their weight and just making a general nuisance of themselves. Posted by: Nick | Sep 10 2021 18:39 utc | 116 ” If I could speak with Giraldi, I’d tell him his narrative completely contradicts his conclusion. The CIA continuously violates the US Constitution and is thus a rogue agency in need of disbanding, as are other agencies of the federal government. But as a former spook, I guess he just can’t get up enough nerve to write what needs to be written. Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 10 2021 18:45 utc | 117 BM @113– @93 Posted by: Oldhippie | Sep 10 2021 18:55 utc | 119 “9. A fundamental requirement <= the audience must accept the (premise of the )fiction.." - snake @ 68 I would say they often recognize the fiction and agree to conspire. Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 10 2021 18:59 utc | 120 I’ve clearly fallen behind in my monitoring of Lavrov’s activities as shown by my comment @119. Here’s another commemoration address made by Lavrov celebrating “the Heroes of the Last World War II Battle campaign, September 3, 2021”: the report of the minister’s courageous action where extreme conditions had caused the photographer’s calamity. Greater love hath no man than this… Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 10 2021 19:26 utc | 122 Yes, they are that crazy & stupid: “Moscow summons US ambassador over ‘meddling’ in Russian elections, accuses Americans of being ‘detached from reality’ in reaction”: Thank you, Paco @ 97. That is very sad, but what a beautiful place! God bless and keep them both. Posted by: juliania | Sep 10 2021 19:39 utc | 124 He really did say it: “We’re going to protect vaccinated workers against unvaccinated workers.” Posted by: BM | Sep 10 2021 19:58 utc | 125 Hi Karloff1. Another question relates to how financially strapped their administration is becoming. Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 10 2021 19:59 utc | 126 According to data from the Scottish government, covid-19 hospital admissions for the over 60’s have tripled, despite this age group being virtually 100% vaccinated. Posted by: BM | Sep 10 2021 20:07 utc | 127 I found this comment on Dr Malcom Kendrick’s site:
Posted by: BM | Sep 10 2021 20:11 utc | 128 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucfm9LCzLFM Posted by: Tom2 | Sep 10 2021 20:50 utc | 129 BM @128– Why we must and will still have to talk about Covid-19 and calm down
Notice: vaccine = singular, issues = plural
And we have collectively succumbed.
B. replied to me, to make it clear that there was a lack of understanding.
But it was already too late.
For today I want to bring calm and just some “affectionate teasing”, I offer you three musical links. Posted by: Odenwälder | Sep 10 2021 21:56 utc | 131 A very big step towards the reality of the Union State was accomplished today. Here’re Putin and Lukashenko’s statements and media’s Q&A. There’s lots of excellent info to glean but I chose the following Q&A because of what is conveys about the entire process and why it’s taken so long to consummate: John Helmer of Dances With Bears has obtained evidence that a) the emergency medical team that rushed to Navalny’s aid was deployed a full day before Navalny fell ill, and b) some pertinent physical evidence in the case seems to have miraculously vanished. Posted by: nwwoods | Sep 10 2021 22:14 utc | 133 Hello karlof1. How ya doin?
Ooof!
“You’re either with us or you’re against us.” Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 10 2021 22:22 utc | 134 A random thought. Posted by: Paul | Sep 10 2021 22:29 utc | 135 Update:
The Chinese know. They know. For more on the ABC [PEP] Doogue dog and her credibility, see the resource on Middle East Reality Check: Posted by: Paul | Sep 10 2021 23:12 utc | 137 John Cleary @134– You wanna new laptop, fine…. Posted by: polecat | Sep 11 2021 0:14 utc | 139 @John Cleary | Sep 10 2021 22:22 utc | 134 Posted by: Lurk | Sep 11 2021 0:42 utc | 140 BM #128 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2021 1:16 utc | 141 @ David G Horsman | Sep 10 2021 17:43 utc | 109… what do you plan on doing about it?? thanks.. Posted by: james | Sep 11 2021 1:19 utc | 142 @ BM | Sep 10 2021 20:11 utc | 128… i shared the scottish doctors article a few days ago here at moa… it seemed like no one picked up on it, so i am glad it is now making the wider rounds at moa… Posted by: james | Sep 11 2021 1:20 utc | 143 karlof1 @ 138, I haven’t yet read your links but to say “от лукавого” is for Russians very strong indeed — those are the final words of the Lord’s Prayer in Russian, translated as “…but deliver us from the evil one.” Posted by: juliania | Sep 11 2021 1:40 utc | 144 BM #110 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2021 1:57 utc | 145 Two infrastructure corridors completed. Posted by: Paul | Sep 11 2021 2:04 utc | 146 Thanks again karlof1, and also John Cleary for the link to Lavrov’s interview. Reading in context without hearing how it was said, I’m guessing using such a reference was meant lightly but meaningfully to point out there was no substance to the statement about Russia’s relationship with the Taliban. Posted by: juliania | Sep 11 2021 2:08 utc | 147 Good TED talk on money vs resources by Stephanie Kelton. Posted by: financial matters | Sep 11 2021 2:34 utc | 148 Muslim Brotherhood gets dumped out in Moroccan elections.
Watch out for your shipping port Moroccans, someone might have parked a stash of ‘fertiliser’ there. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2021 2:37 utc | 149 @ financial matters | Sep 11 2021 2:34 utc | 148 with the TED talk on money vs resources by Stephanie Kelton links Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 11 2021 3:03 utc | 150 uncle tungsten 149 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 11 2021 3:18 utc | 151 Peter AU1 #151
In addition the Nordic Monitor reports Turkish Imams are getting ecstasy release after the Taliban defeat of the USA in Afghanistan. Caution: This is from a site that seems to HATE Erdoghan with intense ferocity – maybe they are democrat Turks or even Gulenists in exile but they sure do hate nerdy.
[my emphasis] Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2021 3:46 utc | 152 Lebanon from GEROMAN Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2021 4:03 utc | 153 There’s something odd here uncle tungsten. Erdo though I don’t like him much has proved himself a strategic player. He will play Russia against US and so forth but mostly I think has his eye set on the multi-polar world. There is a circle that is Qatar, Turkey (erdo), Iran – the common denominator among them is anti Israel. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 11 2021 4:07 utc | 154 uncle tungsten @Sep11 2:37 #149: Watch out for your shipping port Moroccans … Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 11 2021 4:32 utc | 155 Peter AU1 @Sep11 4:07 #154:
Then why does he anger the Russians who are so steadfast against Islamic terrorism (see my comment @Sep10 3:07 #67)? Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 11 2021 4:52 utc | 156 Also recall that Hillary’s assistant (Huma Abedin) has MB ties. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 11 2021 4:54 utc | 157 I just read on Reuters that Prince Andrew has been served papers in the sex scandal and am not sure how that fits with the John McCleary (sp?) version of what is happening with the ascension to the throne plans of the face of British empire??? Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 11 2021 4:59 utc | 158 FUKUS [UK, US] never left their war booty behind without booby trapping it , cue India, HK….
Empire watch rule 1 Posted by: denk | Sep 11 2021 5:06 utc | 159 Silent ongoing US withdrawal from Iraq and Syria?
Syria:
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 11 2021 5:25 utc | 160 @uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2021 2:37 utc | 149
+100 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 11 2021 5:29 utc | 161 Posted by: juliania | Sep 11 2021 2:08 utc | 147 Posted by: Paco | Sep 11 2021 5:31 utc | 162 A picture is worth a thousand words! Posted by: ? | Sep 11 2021 6:02 utc | 163 @57&118 Karlof1 Posted by: m | Sep 11 2021 6:36 utc | 164 Peter AU1
This link will take you directly to Leo Strauss “Thoughts on Machiavelli”. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2021 6:44 utc | 165 Norwegian #160 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2021 7:06 utc | 166 Silk Road Briefing informs of the commencement of traffic through Myanmar to China:
This is a serious game changer and enables a broader dimension to trade than I had thought.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2021 7:11 utc | 167 @ BM | Sep 10 2021 17:46 utc | 110 Posted by: DG | Sep 11 2021 7:31 utc | 168 Posted by: Paco | Sep 10 2021 16:17 utc | 97
Beautiful photos. But it is easy to get killed here. Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 11 2021 7:54 utc | 169 Paco @ 162, good morning to you as well! (2a.m. here) It’s interesting that you say the phrase is common like ‘don’t you fool me’ — I was thinking to say it was very like the English phrase “The devil you say!” often found in novels as well. Posted by: juliania | Sep 11 2021 8:34 utc | 170 It’s a small world, uncle tungsten @ 165. The liberal arts college of my youth had a tenuous (for me) connection to Leo Strauss, in that the founders of its program came from U of Chicago, and respecting Strauss my understanding is that his teaching stressed a tension between Jerusalem and Athens, philosophically speaking. Which my own favorite teacher disagreed with, and that did become my conviction also. I hadn’t known of the Machiavellian connection, so thanks for that. Posted by: juliania | Sep 11 2021 8:54 utc | 171 U.S. pulls missile defenses in Saudi Arabia amid Yemen attacks : https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/us-pulls-missile-defenses-in-saudi-arabia-amid-yemen-attacks/article36398497.ece Posted by: Antonym | Sep 11 2021 9:28 utc | 172 Richard Medhurst has just posted an >a href=”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbrpkTznMYU”>excellent interview with Dr Wahab on the current Afghanistan situation with a long look at ISIS-K, its origin and agenda. Nineteen minutes utoob. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2021 9:50 utc | 173 Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 11 2021 7:54 utc | 169 Posted by: Paco | Sep 11 2021 11:13 utc | 175 No 9/11 commemorations in sight. Last thing they want is a replay of their cheesy primitive efforts at CGI video. Kids who weren’t born yet when it happened, who are without the emotional investment, watch the old videos and just can’t believe what suckers we all were. Posted by: Oldhippie | Sep 11 2021 12:30 utc | 176 Two Decades After 9/11 the Biggest Casualty is U.S. Empire
Posted by: BM | Sep 11 2021 13:14 utc | 177 Next time an Islamic terrorist attack happens in France, let the French people know why the terrorist flew under the radar of the French intelligence: BM @ 177 Posted by: financial matters | Sep 11 2021 13:39 utc | 179 Two infrastructure corridors completed. Posted by: BM | Sep 11 2021 14:21 utc | 180 The tragedy of 9-11
The resources wasted on these senseless wars could have been used in ways that make USA/West stronger and more secure: to help the Russians as they transitioned to a market economy; to improve infrastructure and education. Instead, among other things, we made enemies of Russia and much of the Middle East and fell behind China which we helped to become powerful. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 11 2021 14:33 utc | 181 Ideal woman under Taliban 2.0 Posted by: Afgun | Sep 11 2021 14:37 utc | 182 Conclusion of the event: ‘The notion that hijab should be personal and affects only the person is wrong. Lack of hijab is like a virus that would make the whole society sick.’ Posted by: Afgun | Sep 11 2021 14:41 utc | 183 The Psychology of Totalitarianism: 4 things need to be in place (and they are). Posted by: imo | Sep 11 2021 14:54 utc | 184 SO I AM CITING AN OFFICIAL SOURCE AND SCIENTISTS. Posted by: BM | Sep 11 2021 15:25 utc | 185 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 11 2021 14:33 utc | 181 Posted by: Paco | Sep 11 2021 15:26 utc | 186 Too busy playing video games but it seems it has been a slow-burn weekend. Posted by: Smith | Sep 11 2021 15:48 utc | 187 @snake #68 @Don Bacon #70 Posted by: c1ue | Sep 11 2021 15:51 utc | 188 @Jackrabbit | Sep 11 2021 14:33 utc | 181
Yes, they weaponized catching a cold. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 11 2021 15:55 utc | 189 @Don Bacon #90 Posted by: c1ue | Sep 11 2021 15:56 utc | 190 @vk #136 Posted by: c1ue | Sep 11 2021 16:01 utc | 191 @Peter AU1 #154 Posted by: c1ue | Sep 11 2021 16:04 utc | 192 don Bacon @ 100 Posted by: snake | Sep 11 2021 16:21 utc | 193 Posted by: imo | Sep 11 2021 14:54 utc | 184 Posted by: BM | Sep 11 2021 16:27 utc | 194 Ladies and gentlemen the intrepid Josh Friedman: Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 11 2021 16:37 utc | 195 Paco @Sep11 15:26 #186
Inadvertant truth-telling? A country doesn’t attack another country when the ‘threat’ is from within. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 11 2021 16:53 utc | 196 109… what do you plan on doing about it?? thanks.. Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 11 2021 16:56 utc | 197 Posted by: BM | Sep 11 2021 15:25 utc | 185 Posted by: DG | Sep 11 2021 16:57 utc | 198 Norwegian @Sep11 15:55 #190 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 11 2021 16:59 utc | 199 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 11 2021 16:53 utc | 197 Posted by: Paco | Sep 11 2021 17:18 utc | 200 |
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