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August 22, 2021
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2021-064

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

It was a week where the U.S. retreat from Afghanistan overshadowed everything else. That is okay as huge consequneces will flow from these events.

sayed salahuddin @sayedsalahuddin – 11:59 UTC · 22 Aug 2021

Almost all parts of Afghanistan enjoying peace for a week now after over 42 years of war, but Kabul airport has become the most violent part.

Some haggling seems to continue today but the outcome is assured.

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Other issues:

Lebanon:

Covid-19:

Science:

Vaccination / Breakthroughs:


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Big question:

Use as open thread ….

Posted by b on August 22, 2021 at 13:47 UTC | Permalink
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Yes, the pre-planned Clusterfuck in Kabul, or Bay of Pigs 2.0, or whatever shook the world as victims of 20 years of lies and death reasserted a modicum of control over their situation.
The outrage and howling from the CIA-controlled media and the Establishment over Biden’s correct decision is hilarious.
keep up the good work.

Posted by: gottlieb | Aug 22 2021 14:11 utc | 1

‘We Will Get You Home’, Biden Tells Americans In Kabul And Vows To Help Afghan Allies
vs.
American mom trapped by Taliban describes horrific violence, pleads for Biden to solve evacuation crisis

FIRST ON FOX: An American mom trapped in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan is worried she’ll never see her kids again and in hiding with family members and Afghan allies – unable to reach Kabul’s U.S.-held airport for a chance at an evacuation, she said Saturday.
“I really have given up hope, given up on the hope of going to the airport,” the woman, whose identity is being withheld due to concerns for her safety, told Fox News. “It’s just not possible to make it through all those people.”
She said there are as many as 20 Taliban checkpoints between her and the airport – and she’s one of an uncertain number of American citizens trapped behind enemy lines. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 22 2021 14:12 utc | 2

When will other occupied suzerainties ask Imperialist forces to leave?
The Taliban has been fighting the Imperial forces since their occupation started. However, people in Germany, Japan, South Korea,… that have been occupied by the Imperialists over many decades do nothing. Aren’t they democracy? What does it tell about these SUZERAINTIES? What percentage of their transactions are in Imperialist’s currencies? Are you okay with imperialism? Imperialists go back!
Name a democracy that isn’t a suzerainty.
Will Afghanistan’s fiasco create any wave of change?

Posted by: Max | Aug 22 2021 14:23 utc | 3

Bringing the discussion here from the collapse-thread:
Bidens ‘at least we got Bin Laden’ justification for the war; does it work? Does any one care? I mean it was ten years ago…

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Aug 22 2021 14:25 utc | 4

The ‘Global Elites’ project of ‘Global Governance’ has been discussed, on an on-going basis on Moon of Alabama, both in posts and in comments, including many of my own comments. To recall, the ‘Global Elites’, (the core group of which are the powers behind such organizations as the Bilderberg Group, the Council On Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, Tavistock Institute, the IMF, the BIS, World Bank, the UN, etc.) are trying to create a ‘Global Empire’ based on governance through Global Institutions. ‘Full Spectrum Dominance’, the Middle-East Wars, Color Revolutions, the Climate Crisis and now the ‘Great Reset’ are all elements of this project. One must remember that the core objective of this project is to subordinate all nation-states to these ‘Global Institutions’ (and indeed degrade the very idea of a ‘nation-state’), which are largely based in Europe. Opposing this project have been the ‘Multi-Polar World Order’ led by Russia and China, and nationalists and populists in Western countries, such as Trump, Orban, Yellow-Vests, Brexiteers, etc.
It looks to me that there has now been a split in the ranks of the ‘Global Elites’ themselves. It appears that a section of the American financial elite, whose business is primarily U.S.-centric but who supported the Global Empire project under the illusion that this would be an American Empire, have finally understood that the ‘Global Empire’ project was something different and that the U.S. was destined to be just another colony of this Global Empire, whose sovereignty and wealth would be stripped away by the ‘Global Elites’.
It appears that the split came this spring when it was realized that the ‘Global Elites’, in pursuit of their goals, were willing to sacrifice the U.S. by drawing it into a war against Russia that it could not win. It also appears that, as Tom Luongo explains, the ‘Global Elites’ were at the same time moving to transfer control over the global financial system from the U.S. Federal Reserve to global institutions based in Europe.
A key date that demonstrates this split was June 16. This was the day that Biden met Putin in Geneva, and, according to Luongo (https://tomluongo.me/2021/08/20/the-fed-says-let-me-squeeze-your-dollars-5-basis-points-at-a-time/), ‘While that was happening the FOMC met and reversed the flow of dollars globally’.
The Biden/Putin summit appeared, at the time, to be completely out of character for the ‘Global Elites’ and their operatives (the U.S. Deep State including the State Department, CIA, parts of the military leadership, NATO, the EU) of whom it was assumed that Biden was a puppet. And indeed, these ‘Globalist’ elements have been trying to sabotage the results of the summit ever since.
Biden’s decision to pull the U.S. military out of Afghanistan, appears to have a similar character to the summit, i.e. out of character for the ‘Global Elites’ and opposed by their operatives including the U.S. Deep State, NATO, the EU, Britain. A split in the ranks of the ‘Global Elites’, as discussed above, would explain the anarchic situation on the ground in Afghanistan and the seeming incapability of the US to deal with it. The fact that CNN is now turning on Biden also supports the thesis of such a split.
It looks like the position of these US-centric financial elites is moving closer to what Trump’s position was, i.e.: abandon the idea of global empire, prevent, if possible, the economic and societal collapse of the U.S., and prevent the U.S.’ main competitor, China, from achieving global preeminence.
But how did these US-centric financial elites manage to flip Biden? One can only assume that they made him an offer that he couldn’t refuse.

Posted by: dh-mtl | Aug 22 2021 14:28 utc | 5

As an American it is difficult to feel sorry for other Americans “stuck” in Afghanistan. They are either military, contractors or government of some stripe. In all cases they were paid well for the risk they knew they were taking on.Nobody ended up there by accident.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Aug 22 2021 14:29 utc | 6

I tried to post this today at NC.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/08/afghanistan-the-new-northern-alliance-resistance-has-already-fallen-apart.html
The site won’t allow it. They have a strange cents of news.

Posted by: jo6pac | Aug 22 2021 14:35 utc | 7

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Aug 22 2021 14:25 utc | 4
My two cents – if there had ever been any evidence of:
1. Osama’s involvement in 911
2. Osama’s death as the US described it
then perhaps the ‘war’ was justified. But as those two things have never materialized we can only assume, much like Pandemic 2020, 911 was/is a mass psychological warfare operation to advance the dated imperial agenda outlined then at the Project for a New American Century, and now the ‘new normal’ of the World Economic Forum.

Posted by: gottlieb | Aug 22 2021 14:35 utc | 8

As a civil war in Lebanon looks more and more likely, I think it’s important to note that this was kicked off by the explosion in Beriut’s port which I have always contended was SABOTAGE (not bomb, missile, or accident).
Hezebollah has warned the West not to interfere with the Iranian shipment of oil. What happens if Lebanon authorities try to seize the Iranian oil (for any number of reasons)?
Just now: Lebanon raises fuel prices by 66% as it tries to ease shortages
!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 22 2021 14:54 utc | 9

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 22 2021 14:54 utc | 10
I dunno about a civil war in Lebanon. Who’s going to fight who for what? As long as the West insists upon a solution which is Israel-friendly, nobody is going anywhere. The country is not free to choose.

Posted by: Laguerre | Aug 22 2021 15:28 utc | 10

The rise of the alt-right and the death of Western science: the case of Ivermectin amid the COVID-19 pandemic:
Mississippi officials warn against using ivermectin for COVID-19 amid spike in poisonings
FDA warns against using animal parasite medicine as at-home COVID-19 treatment
The scenario is the same as always: alt-right leadership preach for Ivermectin (before it was HCQ) while taking the ultra-expensive Regeneron behind the scenes to treat themselves. It’s like the Confederacy: officially, they were defending the slaveowners; in practice, the big slaveowners were sending the small slaveowners to die for them in the trenches of the Tennessee and Virginia.
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Good news:
Chinese-made vaccines very effective for fully vaccinated people in tackling Delta variant: study
2 shots of Chinese inactivated vaccines effective in curbing Delta: Report co-authored by epidemiologist Zhong Nanshan
China has already inoculated 1.93 billion doses. 1 billion more to go.
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Recommended read for this weekend:
The Jackson Hole dilemma
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Afghans like to deal with China, will never count on ‘evil’ US, says Afghan businessman

“Many of these people have never left Afghanistan and have no idea what the outside world is. They think that the US or Europe are paradises,” he said. “I have been to over 60 countries and regions including the US and Canada. I know they will not be welcomed in these countries. Locals will look down on them and consider them parasites.”

That’s the ugly truth: for First Worlders, Third Worlders are merely vermin to be used to clean their floor. China and Vietnam realized that, and did the right thing.
The rest of the Third World has a clear choice: either rise in a wave of communist revolutions, or be condemned to the status of subhumans for the rest of their and their children’s existence.
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USA throws Germany under the bus with a WaPo journalist:
Germany stumbles in late efforts to rescue Afghan support staff, by Loveday Morris
This came out one day after Germany/EU officially claimed the deadline for evacuation imposed by the USA was “impossible”.
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Bingo:
We [the USA] Weren’t Happy Before the Pandemic, Either
The narrative that misery was born like a Greek goddess when the COVID-19 pandemic started is pure petty bourgeois propaganda.
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The Taliban has a sense of humor:
Ultimate insult? Taliban fighters mock iconic Iwo Jima flag-raising photo, posing in seized US military gear
Fox News was all over the place with this photo, probably to try to induce the USA to go back to Afghanistan. That won’t happen, because the USA was militarily defeated, there was never any withdrawal/pullout.
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Western activists still blame Putin for turning his back on liberal dreams for Russia, but their promises led to nothing but chaos [and misery – but Glenn Diesen left this out because he’s a liberal himself]
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Too much denial:
CBS accused of eco-overreach after claiming CLIMATE CHANGE ‘helped strengthen’ Taliban
I’ve never seen the American people so inconsolable before. If their mothers had died tragically, it wouldn’t be that much grief. Didn’t imagine a defeat in godforsaken Afghanistan would be so devastating.
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August 17th marked the 110th birth of legendary grandmaster Mikhail Botvinnik – USSR’s first great sports achievement. Here’s a photo gallery for the occasion published by RT Russia:
Первый советский чемпион: 110 лет назад родился легендарный шахматист Михаил Ботвинник

Posted by: vk | Aug 22 2021 15:32 utc | 11

@12 vk – re: China vaxx
That is super interesting … per article, single dose vs Delta very low vs symptomatic infection, double dose very high effect.
Since you follow this closely, did you see a recent report of Chinese daily or weekly vaccine and testing numbers? Thanks

Posted by: ptb | Aug 22 2021 15:40 utc | 12

Biden’s MEGA Debacle
What is to be done?
Distraction Time!
Watch out!
What could knock this MEGA Debacle
off the front pages and headline?
The attention span of Americans is as fleeting as a finger-scroll.
Someone somewhere is addressing this issue, planning a distraction.
Watch out!

Posted by: librul | Aug 22 2021 15:59 utc | 13

gottlieb @9:
What I meant was: regardless of what actually happened; the propaganda stunt of trying to claim success by pointing to an execution ten years ago — can it work? To me it seems far fetched.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Aug 22 2021 16:00 utc | 14

“A Big Money Funneling Operation” — Afghanistan Vet Reflects On Withdrawal Of US Forces (Michael Tracey, July 13, 2021)

Posted by: S | Aug 22 2021 16:06 utc | 15

Very good question:
Remember Mao’s famine, forget Churchill’s racism: how the West colonised Asian minds
And to make things even worse, the Great Leap Forward wasn’t even Mao’s decision, but a wrong assessment by the Politburo over the excess of confidence of the Chinese peasantry after the great recovery of agricultural output since the foundation of the PRC. And the result was unexpected (because, had the peasantry been able to keep up, it would be a monumental success, therefore it was a “high risk, high reward” situation from a game theory point of view).
Churchill’s genocide was entirely on his own, the result entirely predicted and intended. It’s his signature there, for everybody to see. He killed, cold blooded, 4.3 million Bengali.

Posted by: vk | Aug 22 2021 16:08 utc | 16

@dh-mtl | Aug 22 2021 14:28 utc | 5
100% Agree

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 22 2021 16:11 utc | 17

@Posted by: librul | Aug 22 2021 15:59 utc | 14
Not the Onion
They could “discover” an old Bin Laden communication:
“Bin Laden discussed a Nuclear Weapon”
(or dirty bomb as plan B)
Something! With the imminent 20th anniversary of 9/11 they have to distract the American people with something.

Posted by: librul | Aug 22 2021 16:13 utc | 18

@Norwegian | Aug 22 2021 16:11 utc | 18
Sorry, my mistake, I meant to agree 100% with
@gottlieb | Aug 22 2021 14:35 utc | 9
However, dh-mtl | Aug 22 2021 14:28 utc | 5 provides very interesting thoughts as well!

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 22 2021 16:14 utc | 19

@Jörgen Hassler | Aug 22 2021 16:00 utc | 15
The population will believe anything without evidence, the last year has shown it.
However, even if many believe fact-less lies, it does not become the truth.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 22 2021 16:17 utc | 20

Has the Dollar Empire given up the dream of a global empire?
Haven’t seen strong signals to conclude “yes.”
What is the national hierarchy in the Financial Empire?
The Financial Empire is a global debt based financial system administered by the City of London and Wall Street, and enabled by NATO & Six Eyes (Five Eyes [USA+UK+Aus+Can+NZ] + Israel)?
The Global Financial Empire’s hierarchical structure looks like the following:
– Core: SIX Eyes – English Union, huge debt generators, negative trade balance (U$A, UK)
– Conquered: EU/Germany,.., Saudi Arabia, Japan, South Korea – Debt distributors, positive trade balance (supporting the US$)
– Capital Rich: Russia, China, Brazil, Africa, Iran, ME – (Resource/Asset rich)
– Circumference countries: ROW
The U$A is the top management layer, CEO/CFO. It has a board seat. Why is it creating lots of IOUs?
Please look at the Dollar Empire’s key players in the treasury bond market.
Who are the sophisticated investors that are buying NEGATIVE “real” yields?
Who bought the $5 Trillion piled on the Monstrous U$A National Debt in 15 Months?
The Financial Titanic (Dollar Empire) is taking water (Debt) at an exponential rate. This is UNSUSTAINABLE. Are Americans sleeping or having fun while music is playing?
The average age of a global reserve currency is 94 years (80-110). It is said the US$ started on its reserve trajectory in 1921.
When will this Financial Titanic break?

Posted by: Max | Aug 22 2021 16:18 utc | 21

Many thanks to b for the coverage he has provided this week of Afghanistan concerns, and for this Sunday tabulation of readings. His first link to the Responsible Statecraft site is a must read. The map is very helpful, having states and cities in an unusual configuration, very interesting that, especially (for me) the location of Islamabad. And this description of the importance of Pakistan in the overall new adjustments that will be forthcoming:

… Pakistan’s western neighbor — India — poses the greatest strategic threat to Islamabad. Pakistan cannot tolerate unfriendly powers on both borders. It will do whatever it takes to maintain decent working relations with Kabul. And, of course, China has Pakistan’s back as a key link in the Eurasian Belt and Road Initiative. Pakistan must also be attentive to the Pashtun character of the Taliban movement; after all, there are more Pashtuns in eastern Pakistan than there are in Afghanistan itself…

[When I was in highschool in New Zealand, my father took off for a tour of duty with the UN, monitoring the then ongoing separations between Pakistani and Indian families in the Kashmir region. We children at home knew nothing of the agony and disruptions happening back then, only that Srinagar was an amazingly beautiful place.]

Posted by: juliania | Aug 22 2021 16:33 utc | 22

Jörgen Hassler @15
gotcha – sorry if my first response seemed a knee-jerk thingy – so to answer your question in the spirit it’s asked:
agree with you 100%. Most folks moved on from Afghanistan in disgust BEFORE Osama was allegedly taken out, so I don’t see how pointing to “See, see it was all worth cuz we got the bad guy” can possibly resonate with anyone under 85. peace.

Posted by: gottlieb | Aug 22 2021 16:33 utc | 23

The largest man made megalith in the world is found in Yangshan in China, weighing more than 16 thousand tons. It has clear similarities with megaliths in Petra/Jordan, Baalbek/Lebanon and similar sites in India and Italy. Most interestingly, there are toolmarks in all these sites that closely resemble toolmarks from modern mining machines.
Video in English from China
Tool Marks on Yangshan Monument Match Modern Machine Marks
It is very difficult to avoid the idea that the ancient toolmarks resulted from machinery similar to our modern machinery, and by implication an ancient advanced civilization must have existed long before the start of our civilization ~4000 BC.
Yangshan is not the only incredible megalithic site in China, there is also the Longyou caves, which was discovered in 1992, and required removal of 1 million cubic metres of stone. It has extensive regular toolmarks which look like toolmarks from machinery:
Longyou Caves: Created by a Lost Ancient Civilization with Machines?

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 22 2021 16:43 utc | 24

vk @ 12
I like the idea that the Chinese are not using Mnra and are using an inactivated virus but why would I believe the party’s organ? It is sort of like me believing WAPO or the NYT.
Of course, the NYT says the opposite. I would tend to believe their vaccine has less side effects and it is a real vaccine not a medical treatment like the Wests shots.
When everyone is not to be believed what should one do? Stand back and watch the show, stay healthy, and let this thing blow over.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 22 2021 16:45 utc | 25

@Posted by: gottlieb | Aug 22 2021 16:33 utc | 24
You asked:

” I don’t see how pointing to “See, see it was all worth cuz we got the bad guy” can possibly resonate with anyone under 85″

Perhaps we should ask, How can they get it to resonate?
They want to, for sure, no doubt. Will they act? Likely. What will they do?
See my @14 and @19

Posted by: librul | Aug 22 2021 16:46 utc | 26

Russia has been betrayed by the U$A in 1917, 1947, 1991, 2008, 2012, 2013, 2018, 2020…? “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.”
What evidence/signals supports the viewpoint of a thaw in relationship between Russia and the U$A?
The following developments invalid the “thaw” viewpoint and expose it as a ruse & propaganda:
– Russia has de-dollarized its long term holdings after the summit
– It is leading and trading in Non-$ currencies
– It is strengthening its relationships with China and the EU
– Biden administration continues its sanctions against Russia policies
– Biden administration introduced stringent requirements on Nord Stream 2 in its agreement with Germany
– The Empire is still pursuing regime change in Belarus and Russia’s neighborhood
“Russia won’t tolerate the post-Cold War global system dominated by a single leader. That type of world order has never been acceptable for Russia. Maybe someone likes it and wants to live under a pseudo-occupation, but we won’t put up with it.”
– Vladimir Putin
One can’t fool all the people all the time.

Posted by: Max | Aug 22 2021 16:47 utc | 27

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 22 2021 16:43 utc | 25
Indeed, Humans, as we are constituted, go back a couple hundred thousand years. But we only made civilization a few thousand years ago? Please. Who knows how many times we’ve been destroyed by the cometary cosmos, planetary belches, or ourselves?
Thanks for the interesting topic.

Posted by: gottlieb | Aug 22 2021 16:51 utc | 28

thanks b…. the focus on afganistan has been great and warranted…. i wonder if laguerre will contribute to moa now? lol…
i want to highlight @ dh-mtl | Aug 22 2021 14:28 utc | 5 post… while it is hard to know and speculative, i think there is some merit to his speculation… in fact, if one reads @patrick armstrongs article at the bottom of b’s post, one could conclude just how important and central finance is to all of this… and yes @ max addresses this too… it is hard to discuss it in the specifics as the specifics have been intentionally left out and / or obfuscated… it is like talking about a shadow some see, but no one can put their hands on the one casting the shadow… and this does go into the topic of covid and the lockdowns as well in so far as one wonders how much of this is about financial repositioning or a game of really high stakes on the open seas where they are figuring out how to screw the little people royally… and of course there is the royal family – uk and uk having pulled out of the european project…. finances seem so central to all of this…

Posted by: james | Aug 22 2021 16:59 utc | 29

@ Posted by: circumspect | Aug 22 2021 16:45 utc | 26
mRNA was never really a thing. It requires -70°C (and that’s the limit, ideally, it should be -90°C or even lower than that) freezers to adequately storage – something only the top hospitals of the world have – and they require 50lbs dry ice per container to transport (export). There was never any perspective for Pfizer, Moderna et al to ever conquer the entire market for the COVID-19 vaccine, it was never realistically considered by the Third World countries.
What I think happened was that, since Dr. Fauci is a major stakeholder of Moderna, there was a push for the technology in the USA. Also, since the mRNA technology is still experimental, it is easier to patent and thus to extract monopoly rent from its commercialization.
My bet is that Pfizer and Moderna have the perspective to monopolize the First World markets only (specially the USA one, by far the biggest), while the Third World will essentially take the normal, Chinese vaccines. For that, the main enemy of Pfizer and Moderna is AstraZeneca, not Gamaleya or Sinopharm and Sinovac.
The elites from some pro-USA Third World countries tried to defame the Chinese and Russian vaccines while propping up the American ones, but, eventually, reality imposed itself on their delusions and the Chinese vaccines took over.

Posted by: vk | Aug 22 2021 17:00 utc | 30

I would also recommend the link to the Indian punchline site for a brief analysis of the Putin/Merkel press conference on Friday, along with that of Biden on Saturday. (I hope to be able to visit both soon). Here is a quote:

…Putin refused to discuss the US’ defeat in the war, saying, “concentrating on it for too long, emphasising this failure does not serve our interests.” Putin sounded cautiously optimistic about western opinion leaning toward dealings with Taliban-led Islamic Emirate. Russia probably senses that the US-Taliban direct contacts are assuming a constructive spirit…

Happy Sunday, everyone!

Posted by: juliania | Aug 22 2021 17:10 utc | 31

Some are astonished that the Russian ambassador to Afghanistan is stating that negotiating with the new at powr there is going on easier than with the previous adminsitration…
Well, according to the images at hand, the multitidinary crowded encounters enjoy quite more order, respect in keeping silent while listening to others, and lack of usual unpoliteness than any of our Western parliaments where the unwillingness and inability for doing anything on behalf of the good for the people is compensated by a lot of name calling, hysteric outburt and performances, and empty noise, so as to keep the population shocked and confused enough so that they do not stop thinking to realize it is all theater to cover the fact they are all doing nothing with their taxes except conspiring to crush them ans use them as canon fodder on behalf of foreign powers who always remain safe at the other side of the Atlantic…
https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1429049951766687759

Posted by: Asha K. | Aug 22 2021 17:15 utc | 32

About “The European Dilemma”.
The problem with Europe is that the endgame of the whole European project was to create a superpower that could compete on equal terms against the USA after the creation of the Euro. The European elites theorized that the Euro would quickly rise and supplant the USD, thus resulting into some kind of “prodigal son” scenario, where Western Civilization (and, with it, Western supremacy) would peacefully come back to its homeland from exile in North America. I remember this debate vividly, because that’s one of the first subjects I followed carefully when I started to get interested in politics.
Obviously, that’s not what happened. The Euro never came close to being a competitor against the USD. Most of Euro international transactions still only happen between the EU members, i.e. the Euro never really internationalized. To make things worse, the EU suffered even more than the USA with the financial crisis of 2008. It was clear that the USA was the ceiling for the West. Nowadays, the EU is essentially japanified, i.e. mired in perpetual stagnation, interrupted by some double-dip recessions here and there. It is in a “waiting for Godot” mode. Godot will come sooner.
My expectations is that Europe will continue to slowly degenerate, to the point where it will become, geopolitically, the western version of SE Asia (although it will still have more prestige than SE Asia because it has two nuclear powers – UK and France). They will try to survive until China (i.e. communism) collapses, I think that’s the “strategy”.

Posted by: vk | Aug 22 2021 17:15 utc | 33

@gottlieb | Aug 22 2021 16:51 utc | 29
Yes, it is becoming clear that at least once before an advanced human civilization existed with world wide reach, the megalithic sites found in increasing numbers around the world is telling us that. But current cultural traits such as “US exceptionalism” stand in the way of mainstream acceptance, as the current dogma can’t accept anyone to be as advanced as the “west”, now or in the past.
I believe it is almost established that the civilization before our own was destroyed by the comet impact that hit North America ~12800 years ago (more precisely the Laurentide ice sheet over present day Michigan), as witnessed by the Carolina Bays on the US east coast (secondary ice boulder impacts). This caused extinction of the megafauna in the US and in my opinion caused unimaginable large tsunamis across the Atlantic wiping out civilization there. We have only a faded memory of this in the form of the biblical floods.
Could there have been several prior civilizations interrupted by extinction events? I think that is indeed possible, but I prefer to focus on the hard evidence that there was at least one civilization before us, and such evidence is massive and growing. It also has implications for the present times.
I don’t know, but it would not be surprising if the Buddhas of Bamiyan that the Taliban blew up in 2001 turns out to be much older than the 600 AD as claimed by conventional historians using carbon dating (there is no way to carbon date stone).

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 22 2021 17:22 utc | 34

After reading that transcript from the Taliban’s press conference, I have to disagree with everyone who claims that the Taliban are being state-managed by Russia and China. Only another follower of Islam could have that kind of influence over this group. Yes, they do appear to be carefully scripted by someone with international PR and diplomatic saavy, but it has to be someone who is Muslim. In that GrayZone interview with Pepe Escobar, posted by migueljose, Escobar claims the Taliban are under the influence of Mohammed bin Zayed, who is the mentor of Mohammed bin Salman.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 22 2021 17:25 utc | 35

Babylon Bee made a hilarious video on supposedly hateful white men
https://youtu.be/zfP_y4XVPqE

Posted by: Down South | Aug 22 2021 17:25 utc | 36

VK @31:
I think the vast sums of money thrown at Moderna and the buying of Biontechs variant also was an attempt to become leader in a cutting edge technology, something the US of olden days used to be.
If other vaccines turn out to be just as effective, it will be a great loss of prestige. And probably money to, as they are a lot cheaper, and ‘the sky is the limit’ pricing for pharmaceuticals only works in the US.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Aug 22 2021 17:36 utc | 37

Reading Magnier, the position of Israel and its western backers is that sanctions relief and renewal of the nuclear deal with Iran is not currently possible as “lifting the maximum pressure means that all the previous US efforts to curb Iran’s will and progress are due to fail just when the results of these sanctions are turning in favour of the US in Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon.” But this has always been the thinking – that the opponents need just one further kick and they will collapse – and it has been consistently wrong and has consistently resulted in the “Axis of Resistance” widening its influence and expanding its military deterrent. Leaving aside the long-term viability of the criminal US policy of enforcing economic sieges on Iran, Syria, and Lebanon, the developing game of “chicken” regarding the Iranian fuel vessel steaming to a Syrian port looks like a flash point and crisis enabler waiting to blow.

Posted by: jayc | Aug 22 2021 17:40 utc | 38

Ah, the Western center-left and its incurable Orientalism Syndrome:
Labour says PPE contracts must not go to Xinjiang firms that use forced workers

Posted by: vk | Aug 22 2021 17:43 utc | 39

Interesting interview with Dmitry Orlov on collapse both USSR and US
01:01:34 long.
KunstlerCast 348 Revisiting “Reinventing Collapse” with Dmitry Orlov

Posted by: Down South | Aug 22 2021 18:04 utc | 40

@35 The statues were partially made from organic material, wood and straw. They were dated using organic evidence found in the rubble.

Posted by: dh | Aug 22 2021 18:13 utc | 41

dh-mtl @ 5 says: The core objective of Global Governance has been to subordinate all nation-states to ‘Global Institutions’ Opposing Global Governance has been the ‘Multi-Polar World Order’ led by Russia, China, nationalists and populists in Western countries, such as Trump, Orban, Yellow-Vests, Brexiteers, etc.
max @ 22 asks: has the Dollar Empire given up the dream of a global empire?
Constitutional Federalism (“we the few, own and control everything you the masses will need therefore you must do as we say) reveals it took the British just 12 years to reclaim ownership of America (The new American Democracy was defeated by the wealthy and powerful ex British Aristocrats in 1788).” Regime Change by the ex-British Colonial Aristocracy upended American independence (1788). Regime change replaced the Articles of Confederation with the constitution. Ratification described in Article VII of the Philadelphia constitution reads:
<= "The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the states so ratifying the Same." So ratification was not put to a vote of the People? In fact most of the people did not notice that the Articles of confederation(1776-7) had been replaced by the Constitution of the USA(1788), because the name of both governments was the same. The people's problem with federalism materialized into the southern states (1865) waring against the federalist constitutional government. In that war Lincoln proved scrip can serve as the reserve currency and that any attempt to challenge the global money cabal carries with it the death penalty. Tsarist Russia saved the Union from the British bankers supporting the confederacy, The Tzar ordered war ships to be anchored offshore on both East and West ends of America to deny British War ships. So my answer Max; the nation state system stabilizes the foot hold of the globalist. ALAE people of the world are divided by the nation states, and ruled by the nation state system, the Globalist will never surrender.. by: SwissArmyMan 6 No remorce for those contractors caught in Afghanistan <=Returning Americans t/b rerouted to the Moon? https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202108/1232071.shtml <=China vaccine effective.. https://www.rt.com/russia/532308-kadyrov-us-control-taliban/ Afgan another 9/11

Posted by: snake | Aug 22 2021 18:25 utc | 42

@ snake (#43), thanks for your perspective… well appreciated.
If your conclusion is “the Globalist will never surrender..”, then what are Americans-humanity’s choices? Be ENSLAVED or challenge the imperialism and enslavement?
Human beings need to stop wasting time in propaganda and frivolous issues, and answer the most important question: what kind of world we want? There is no point in living in the darkness. Luck challenges might!
Do you want to remain enslaved in a suzerainty?

Posted by: Max | Aug 22 2021 19:03 utc | 43

Why is MoonofA publishing discredited misinformation regarding the proportion of vaxxed to unvaxxed hospital patients? Anyone who’s been paying even marginal attention would know that they’ve changed their policy and are not testing vaccinated people as a matter of procedure unlike unvaxxed, are running the PCR test at 28 for vaxxed and 35 for unvaxxed, and are counting those vaxxed less than two weeks ago and more than three months ago as unvaxxed. B should issue an immediate retraction of his dangerous conspiracy theory that DARPA-funded experimental mRNA gene therapy non-vaccines are anything but a malignant bioweapon. Does B have any financial commitments to Pfizer that he hasn’t disclosed? A good heuristic for avoiding corona misinformation is appraising the actual scientific peer-reviewed studies and steering clear of drug cartel marketing press release stenography.

Posted by: Normal | Aug 22 2021 19:06 utc | 44

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