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August 15, 2021
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2021-062

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

Aymenn J Al-Tamimi @ajaltamimi – 13:43 UTC · 15 Aug 2021

Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham's Abu Mariya al-Qahtani congratulates the Taliban for its victory in Afghanistan, claiming it is a 'victory for the Muslims, victory for the Sunnis, victory for all the oppressed.'

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Covid-19:


Source: Oregon’s Weekly Surveillance Summary Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)
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Use as open thread …

Posted by b on August 15, 2021 at 14:37 UTC | Permalink
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Ron Unz, the saker, and you, b, seem dismissive of the fact that tens of housands of westerners have been routinely marching in city streets decrying draconian lockodowns, mandates, and passports. Just yestrday, Montreal saw a massive demonstration.
Nothing from you, of course.
Y’all are engaging in wholesale dismissal of any kind of cost-benefit analysis from the concern of millions in the west who see no proof in these mandates or their government’s narrative re: vaccine uptake curtailing its spread.
It’s unfair, b.
But it points to something more unsettling: that someone could be so right in decrying the forceful spread of “western democracy” abroad and yet so wrong in condoning that same blob’s unfettered powergrip inward on its own people.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 15 2021 15:12 utc | 1

As an Oregonian and having looked at some of the data pertaining to the delta-upsurge in clinical cases, it appears that rural counties are being hit the hardest.
I propose that there are a few reasons for this that show that the vaccinated and indeed endangering the unvaccinated and not vice versa.
Pandemic-era travelling in this summer has picked up immensely and, as Oregonians, we are travelling to every corner of our state moreso that at any point in the pandemic.
What this tells me is that, while rural people have been saying no to the vaccine more often than urban, it was not until recently that the highly-vaccinated urbanites have been bringing themselves to these rural corners and engaging in local activities where rural residents are being exposed to them.
Suffice to say that it may be true that rural unvaccinated are probably more susceptible to the Delta than those urban vaccinated, it is not too far-fetched to say that urbanites are the ones enabling this dangerous spread through breakthrough delta-infections and transmissions to those unvaccinated who, up until very recently, had been very removed from urban tourists.
Once again, the cost-benefit analysis of the poorly-understood vaccine was too rushed and thus it is very reasonable to propose it is doing more harm than good.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 15 2021 15:31 utc | 2

Nemesis, what you say works for France. Each time the gov announced a lockdown (usually 72 hours in advance!), the urban wealthy moved to their countryside datchas and places that had had little cases started to have waves..

Posted by: Mina | Aug 15 2021 15:41 utc | 3

@NemesisCalling | Aug 15 2021 15:12 utc | 1
Thank you. Something is not right here.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 15 2021 15:43 utc | 4

@Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 15 2021 15:31 utc | 2
Using your logic the ruralites should have gotten vaxxed, thats how mass vaccination works. If you don’t shutdown properly, don’t put in effective contact tracing, then don’t vax the population properly this is what you get. Incompetence and ignorance from one end of the US political spectrum to the other (and I agree that the idiot Fauci should have been fired a long time ago) – “Vax is the silver bullet!” at one end to “Vax is a plot against the people” at the other.
My own Canada is not much better between the idiots running British Columbia, Alberta and Ontario, nor my native UK with BoJo the clown. The West is working hard to make the rise of the East as easy as possible.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 15 2021 15:55 utc | 5

thanks b…. nemesis c makes a good point… i don’t know that folks are dismissive, but there is not a lot of talk about the protests and what they mean to a crumbling society in a bigger context.. i think it is relevant… there is a huge divide in most communities over covid with no easy answers…. it is like we are being primed for conflict… maybe that is the plan… everyone unhappy with the other half, or how the other half thinks and acts… it is non stop… good reason to unplug!
here’s some music for anyone interested.. i am playing this song on a gig later today.. Herbie Hancock – Chameleon
congrats taliban! lets see how this works out…

Posted by: james | Aug 15 2021 16:03 utc | 6

Slogging through the Saker’s rant, his endless whining and self-righteousness, I came to this…
My bet is that in 1-2 years the anti-vaxx hysteria will die down again, and that the majority of those who now say “never! never! over my dead body!” will quietly get vaxxed, and the few who won’t will have a self-inflicted and rather shitty life which, of course, is their right
…which I’ll leave without further comment, for posterity.

Posted by: john | Aug 15 2021 16:05 utc | 7

All the antivax talk never mentions a Cuban vaccine, a Russian one, a Chinese…
When Israelis and Iranians, Chinese and Americans are all onboard the vax ship, yeah, something is up.

Posted by: Quo Vax | Aug 15 2021 16:06 utc | 8

Laughable tripe in the comments. Pandemics are not a joke or a secret illuminati lizard people power grab. The western world has been unable to deal with COVID-19 (in the way China has) because the interests of capitalism have demanded an end to lockdowns and every other measure which disrupts the business as usual of this system. As usual, money trumps lives.
Much like the inaction on climate change, and other issues, there is a segment of the population so impressionable, reactionary, and passive in the face of this system that they will fight the half measure fixes before fighting the system. Vaccines are not the magic bullet that governments chose to treat them as (in lieu of more active containment measures, see above), but they are powerful tools against COVID-19, even variants against which they are less effective.

Posted by: Cesare | Aug 15 2021 16:20 utc | 9

Here’s a fantastic 8-minute diatribe in which Vijay Prashad just lays into the West’s (i.e. Anglo-American Empire) treatment of Asia (India, China, etc.) and the Global South in general, tying past and present.
Britain denies its colonial crimes from India to China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImXERL6FOH8
The ‘West’ continues to try to keep the Global South down.
Again, it’s hard not to see the Anglo-American Empire as an organized crime family – UKUSA makes me think yakuza – along with the rest of its Five Eyes gang.

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Aug 15 2021 16:22 utc | 10

@NemesisCalling you contradict yourself. In your first comment you talk about the ‘justified’ protests of the people who are against lockdowns, mask mandates and vaccines. In your second comment you talk about how the travel of one section of the population (vaccinated) to other areas spread the virus more effectively. Which one is it then? I suspect you do not have an answer, this is because of your general muddled thinking along with the right wing hordes that protest all forms of measures to protect against the vaccine. The real answer is what Cesare said, it is Capitalism which has never seriously fought the scourge of this virus and is constantly looking at half measures, in order to not endanger it’s precious profits. We should talk about how the western governments should have done much more to protect the people, including reparations and economic support to small business, teachers and frontline workers in addition to lockdowns, masking and vaccines. Of course such measures would have meant setting aside the interests of the giant corporations, something which is incapable in the Western neo liberal/conservative order.

Posted by: internationalistx | Aug 15 2021 16:39 utc | 11

I can’t help noting that the Sunday reading in my little chapel today is Matthew 14:14-22. I’ll just give in my own words the highlights for me: it’s late and there’s a big crowd collected near the lake. The disciples say to Jesus that he should send everyone back to the city so they can get themselves some food. But Jesus says to them, “You feed them!”
Those are the highlights to me: not the miracle of feeding the five thousand with two loaves and five fish (or was it two fish and five loaves?) Just that darkness and huge crowds – (men, women and children Matthew says) by a lake, away from the city; and a few helpers being told: “You feed them!”
As said here in previous comments, it is always darkest ‘fore the dawn. But the dawn comes to all.
It’s coming.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 15 2021 16:44 utc | 12

Suffice to say that it may be true that rural unvaccinated are probably more susceptible to the Delta than those urban vaccinated, it is not too far-fetched to say that urbanites are the ones enabling this dangerous spread through breakthrough delta-infections and transmissions to those unvaccinated who, up until very recently, had been very removed from urban tourists.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 15 2021 15:31 utc | 2
My impression is that it is more that the “vaccinated”* are more prone to the delta than the non-vaccinated. There seems to be increasing evidence that the mRNA, especially, increases the risk of infection – and the seriousness of the infection – relative to no jab. (* It is not a real vaccine anyway, as my understanding is that most of the jabs in the US are the mRNA which is not a vaccine).
You have to look carefully because, not surprisingly, the evidence is being covered up. But there are more and more signs leaking out; most tellingly the high ratio of “vaccinated” to unvaccinated amongst new infections in Israel, and the high ratios of hospital admissions and ICU admissions “vaccinated” to unvaccinated. Those data are incompatible with the mRNA scam providing protection. As Dr Peter McCullough claims, it seems the mRNA jab is the real deadly bioweapon not the SARS-Cov-2 virus.

Posted by: BM | Aug 15 2021 16:44 utc | 13

Coming up: the new Hollywood blockbuster in Afghanistan, “Bloodhawk Down”:
Tom Cruise (it’s always Tom Cruise) is Major Bloodhawk, a brave helicopter pilot evacuating Americans from the embassy. Suddenly he gets a call from his old mate Quislinguddin in Kandahar! A girl threatened with marriage to an Evil Talib Commander needs rescuing! Tom pilots his Chinook – against official orders – to Kandahar, uses the rotor blades to break open the Taliban commander’s dastardly fortified residence, fights off the entire Taliban contingent with the help of his trusty door gunner…played by the guy in Jurassic World…and rescues the girl! Unfortunately Quislinguddin is killed by the Taliban commander just as the helicopter lifts off. Tom weeps bitter tears over Quislinguddin’s corpse, but the girl lays a comforting hand on his shoulder. He looks up at her and smiles. End credits.
Oscar material, yo.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 15 2021 16:48 utc | 14

Jim Smith is Chairman of Thomson Reuters, He also sits on the board of Pfizer.
Politifact is funded via Poynter by Gates foundation, US gov, Facebook, google and NED.
Seems a bit like the fox fact checking the number of chickens.

Posted by: Andy | Aug 15 2021 17:20 utc | 15

A thought:
What happens if a third force in Kabul decides to shoot down any of the evacuating aircraft taking NATO staff out of Afghanistan in order to perpetrate a false flag attack ?
This may be the last chance for some forces to trigger a US retaliation on the Afghan people, perhaps a desperate attempt at re-occupation …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 15 2021 17:23 utc | 16

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 15 2021 16:48 utc | 15
Hope they include the scene about the prenup, those Afghan girls are more hardcore than they look …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 15 2021 17:25 utc | 17

Speaking of the US/NATO retreat from Afghanistan, and related to the Vijay Prashad clip I shared @11, here’s a short post by Helena Cobban that also ties past and present.
The hubris of the long-distance empire
https://justworldnews.org/2021/08/15/the-hubris-of-the-long-distance-empire/
Related to her Project 500 Years – about the past 500 years of Western European domination of the world – that b brought to our attention in the first MOA Week in Review of 2021.

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Aug 15 2021 17:26 utc | 18

One more for the Capitalist International (Capintern) archive:
Soros Accuses Chinese President of ‘Turning Himself Into a Dictator’
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Goldman Sachs hiring ex-MI6 chief highlights dark alliance between business and intelligence that’s bordering on criminal
Many Westerners have this erroneous picture of shadow banking as some obscure facility in some tax heaven in the Caribbean or some shady Third World shithole, surrounded by an army of Welcome to the Jungle-like mercenaries armed to the teeth.
The reality is very much different: shadow banking is just another floor in the Western big banks’ towering buildings in London, New York, etc. It’s managed by lily-white Oxbridge, Ivy League graduates in impeccable suits.
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Putin posthumously awards military killed in Be-200 plane crash in Turkey
Time for the Russian Federation to start taking care of their planes and pilots. They’re losing too much planes and pilots.
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At the finish line of the elections in Germany, the SPD bypassed the Greens for the first time in a year
Looks like Armin Laschet backfired on the Christian Conservatives. Meanwhile, it turns out the German people really wants cheap gas, so the Greens are also eroding.
The SPD is a comfortable instrument at the disposal of the German people. It will be always there for them no matter how much it is humiliated by them, like a loyal dog. It is guaranteed to maintain the status quo while maintaining a humane façade to the system. Last but not least, it is guaranteed to keep Germany as a pro-West/West oriented nation (as it has been doing since its very foundation).

Posted by: vk | Aug 15 2021 17:39 utc | 19

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 15 2021 15:12 utc | 1
Amen brother.
You are not the only one that have noticed.

Posted by: Per/Norway | Aug 15 2021 17:47 utc | 20

Posted by: john | Aug 15 2021 16:05 utc | 7
i have saved that for the future too, and if he believes we are all as unprincipled as he/they are i do not care.
God will judge at the end, but it do mean that i in the future will take any word spoken less seriously and will double check everything to see if it is narrative or analyzes.
We are all human and unfortunately these guys seems to scared little children seeking comfort in the governmental bossom.
It is after all typically murcan and german to believe 2 opposite things at once🤷‍♂️
like:
“my government lied about Iraq and weapons of mass destruction BUT it would never lie about a vaccine/gene therapy”
“we lost ww2 and are born evil and we are NOT occupied by the us BUT merkel would never lie about a vaccine/gene therapy”
Let them live with their cognitive dissonans and in narrative land, one day we might make them see how low they sunk with their strawmen attacks and personal attacks against us that trly followed science and logical arguments.
I bare no ill will but i do not trust any off them especially much anymore..
Lies and narrative will always be breached by truth, give them a chance to overcome their doublemasked fear or let the future show them what they did and betrayed freedom, personal choice and reason.

Posted by: Per/Norway | Aug 15 2021 18:01 utc | 21

“and HOW they betrayed freedom etc”🤦‍♂️

Posted by: Per/Norway | Aug 15 2021 18:04 utc | 22

Covid 19?
Just Darwin sorting things out.
Getting the less genetically fit out of the population.

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Aug 15 2021 18:06 utc | 23

I know barflies are eagerly awaiting the reply I promised c1ue a month ago. It has turned into somewhat of an essay, I’m at about 4000 words, but I’m still working on it. I’ll probably be done in another month or so.
B: if you want to preview it for a possible original posting, send me an e-mail.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Aug 15 2021 18:11 utc | 24

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 15 2021 16:48 utc | 15

A girl threatened with marriage to an Evil Talib Commander needs rescuing! Tom pilots his Chinook – against official orders – to Kandahar…

No! It is the kittens and puppies that need rescuing!

Crucial animal welfare projects under threat in Afghanistan
Tahera Rezaei, 31, is the vice president of Kabul Small Animal Rescue which works in partnership with US charity Puppy Rescue Mission. The organisation had started with a big focus on working with foreign soldiers and military contractors who adopt animals on their bases, but this has shifted now almost all foreign troops have departed from Afghanistan. The facility rescues dogs and cats from all over the country, provides veterinary services, runs neutering and rabies vaccination programmes and rehomes animals overseas.

More money is urgently needed:

The Tinkerpuss @TMollop – August 15, 2021
88 cats & 98 dogs can be got to safety. Need $200k for the cargo plane in 72hrs out of Kabul
Nowzad a charity set up by @PenFarthing a Royal Marine
@BorisJohnson MUST get the vets & nurses to UK. They Will be killed or raped

Follow Nowzad for live updates.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Aug 15 2021 18:15 utc | 25

A year ago if you had said the PTB would introduce vaccine passports that would allow them to control the movement and behaviour of whole population groups you would’ve been derided as a conspiracy theorist,
The principle is simple, do as we tell you and we will allow you certain privileges. Disobey and you will be ostracised and punished.
The key part is to get the system implemented. Once the system is implemented the criteria for being a good citizen can always change, be expanded etc.
For a good example how internal/vaccine passports can be used to control the movement of people one needs only to refer to the pass laws that were used in South Africa

In South Africa, pass laws were a form of internal passport system designed to segregate the population, manage urbanization, and allocate migrant labor.

Pass laws

Posted by: Down South | Aug 15 2021 18:18 utc | 26

https://www.moonofalabama.org/%22https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2021/08/10/report-reaffirms-that-climate-is-the-national-security-threat-of-our-times/
The link doesn’t work.

Posted by: David F | Aug 15 2021 18:25 utc | 27

All the antivax talk never mentions a Cuban vaccine, a Russian one, a Chinese…
When Israelis and Iranians, Chinese and Americans are all onboard the vax ship, yeah, something is up.
Posted by: Quo Vax | Aug 15 2021 16:06 utc | 8
I do not mind taking a vaccine, i just dont care to partake in a gene therapy test.
It is you that put words into other peoples mouth and read our minds, a vaccine that have been tested over 5-10 years with only a few deaths and injuries is safe in my eyes.
The 2 days to develop moderna and the gene therapy shots on the other hand, i would rather die than put that poison into my body.
And i mean that literally, they would have to force on gunpoint and keep me in shackles bc i would ise a knife to open up where they injected me🤷‍♂️
I have nothing or no one in the world too loose anymore and i live without fear, i know God is the ultimate judge and my kingdom is not of this world.
Count how many times “Fear not” is repeated in The Bible😉

Posted by: Per/Norway | Aug 15 2021 18:30 utc | 28

A posting from Clean technica to counterbalance bs pessistic view of our chanses to avoid climate catasthrophe; a view I laregly share.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Aug 15 2021 18:36 utc | 29

Posted by: Per/Norway | Aug 15 2021 18:30 utc | 29
Pretty much sums it up.
Yes, when Americans, Russians and Chinese are all into vaxxing it means something.
Yet, when almost all eastern vaccines are old school (weakened virus) yet almost all western vaccines are experimental mrna that does God knows what (and we have plenty of evidence so far they are poison), it means something too.
Maybe one side wants to preserve its population, and other side want to cull it and make huge bucks in the process.

Posted by: Abe | Aug 15 2021 19:23 utc | 30

Marines Rebuke Def. Sec.: ‘No Mandatory Vaccinations for My Marines’ | 13 Aug 2021 | Marine Corps General David H. Berger on Monday rebuked Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin’s edict requiring all Armed Forces personnel to submit to Covid-19 vaccinations under threat of court martial or discharge, said a source in Gen. Berger’s office who overheard a heated conversation between them. Gen. Berger telephoned the defense secretary minutes after he said in a press conference that the Covid-19 vaccination is needed to maintain military readiness and that he would enforce the mandatary vaccination policy regardless of FDA approval status. “There will be no mandatory vaccinations for my Marines,” Gen. Berger said. In a transcript of the call reviewed by Real Raw News, Gen. Berger lambasted Austin and branded him a traitor. “Under no circumstances will Marines be compelled to take a potentially hazardous vaccination that the FDA won’t even fully endorse,” Gen. Berger told Austin. “You are a coward and a traitor, manipulated by people pushing bad policy on the men and women who provide security to our nation. Neither you nor your puppet president has authority to enforce such a policy.”
https://realrawnews.com/2021/08/marines-rebuke-def-sec-no-mandatory-vaccinations-for-my-marines/

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 15 2021 19:32 utc | 31

Given all the excitement this weekend I wonder how the financial markets will respond?
Is the unraveling of Afghanistan enough of an incitement for a crash?
How many more tax payer dollars will be used to prop up the private financial cult?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 15 2021 19:38 utc | 32

thank you in advance Barflies for your forebearance
This is the last iteration of this poem. I will drop it here as no one else will publish it and for that I am in b’s debt.
12 Batshit Monkeys
Monkeys came to the games
with a virus in their veins
giving All their Crown of Strains
…. A present from Fort Detrick
Homeward bound contestants
all sickened with the flu
were carrying contagion
deployed by you know who
We must be number one
we must KILL the competition
even if it takes
a biological emission
Once the enemy is ravaged
we’ll sell our vaccination
but not too soon until we prune
our elder population
The Gift that keeps on giving
to the Super Pharma Suits
aiding in the sieving
of the coughers that it loots
The gravy train is slowing
we must keep it going
Let it spread so the dead
can keep the money flowing
Then we’ll point our finger
at the countries we deplore
and blame them for our crimes
like so many times before

Posted by: ld | Aug 15 2021 19:44 utc | 33

Maybe one side wants to preserve its population, and other side want to cull it and make huge bucks in the process.
Posted by: Abe | Aug 15 2021 19:23 utc | 31
The thought have hit me a few times tbh.
I am trying to find out more about the Russian vaccines and perhaps take a trip to Serbia and get a shot before my government forces us to accept western poison or gene therapies.
But that is my reserve plan that will only be executed if it looks like Erna Solberg and her parlament will make the gene therapy mandatory.

Posted by: Per/Norway | Aug 15 2021 19:44 utc | 34

@32 psycho
Absolutely astonishing news. Thx for the share.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 15 2021 19:50 utc | 35

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 15 2021 19:38 utc | 33
Hillary Clinton Hanged at GITMO
Military Arrests Bill Gates
Clinton Military Tribunal: Day 5 CONVICTION!
Delta Force Raids Biden Compound in Ukraine
Those are headlines from the site you linked, how can i take that site seriously as a source?

Posted by: Per/Norway | Aug 15 2021 19:51 utc | 36

Posted by: internationalistx | Aug 15 2021 16:39 utc | 12
We should talk about how the western governments should have done much more to protect the people, including reparations and economic support to small business, teachers and frontline workers in addition to lockdowns, masking and vaccines. Of course such measures would have meant setting aside the interests of the giant corporations, something which is incapable in the Western neo liberal/conservative order.
Thank You.
You are 100% correct.

Posted by: ld | Aug 15 2021 19:58 utc | 37

@12 internationalist
There were non-state-sponsored epidemiologists at the outset who said that lockdowns were a terrifically bad idea and were merely forestalling and making the journey to herd-immunity infinitely worse.
I am not contradicting myself if you follow this line of thought and then add to it what happens if we do indeed lockdown at the outset, release an ineffectual and possibly disease-worsening vaccine, and then release it where it has the effect of amplifying the original form of the virus to a worse degree to those who were not originally exposed at the outset of the pandemic.
I am merely stating that the state-response in conjunction with the vaccine has made the situation worse.
I did not offer any solutions to the present problem of rural disease-affliction. I merely stated that the state had opened Pandora’s Box with their haphazard (planned?) approach.

Posted by: NemesisCallingl | Aug 15 2021 19:58 utc | 38

@32
@36
The linked story is obviously fictional. Astonishing how gullible some skeptics can be when it comes to information that confirms what they already believe.

Posted by: Peltast | Aug 15 2021 20:01 utc | 39

Sounds like the Taliban aren’t waiting around, and are now in Kabul … ZH
A 21-second clip of George W. Bush on April 17, 2002
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4973535/user-clip-george-w-bush-april-17-2002

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Aug 15 2021 20:05 utc | 40

Let us not conflate protests of vaccine passports with anti-maskers and covidiots wanting an end to lockdown measures as they crowd sporting events, theatres and gymnasiums. They are aiding the spread of mutations that escape vaccines. Open borders brining in foreign variants does the rest.
As others have said a self-licking ice cream cone.

Posted by: ld | Aug 15 2021 20:07 utc | 41

@40 peltast
Indeed, I would want it to be true.
I forget that there are absolutely-bonkers news sites out there peddling q-anon and the like – stuff that is most obviously controlled-opposition relief-valves set up to funnel dissenting minds down establishment-preferable avenues.
My grave mistake in not doing my due dilligence. C’mon, Psycho! Don’t be such a tease. 🙂

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 15 2021 20:08 utc | 42

From the ZH article:
In a message to followers Sunday, the Taliban’s leader, Mullah Haibatullah Akhundzada, urged his fighters to treat conquered cities with a benevolent hand. “The victories are coming, do not be arrogant and conceited, do not betray the spoils of war, and treat well those who surrender to you,” he said. “Do your best to avoid civilian casualties.”

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Aug 15 2021 20:09 utc | 43

@ psychohistorian | Aug 15 2021 19:32 utc | 32 who copy/pasted w/o checking because I want to believe it…..
The shit show continues until it doesn’t and I turn 73 next month and am tired of 50+ years of watching the ongoing human genocide for the cult of profit.
And I refuse to get vaccinated. Any who stand with me against Big Pharma and the financialization folks behind them is my friend. I believe the public has been lied to about the virus and the availability of treatment for it (Ivermectin).
I believe that Covid is man made by the same sort of perverts that used two nuclear bombs at the end of WWII.
So, the Afghanistan domino is falling. Does it precipitate more dominos falling? I think so and this is where it gets a bit scary for me thinking about all the war crimes committed by the Western leadership of the past few decades. Those folk have a lot to lose and have been doubling down for some time now. If the curtain in front of the cult of global private finance is ripped down then the current puppets will no longer have the backing they have had and blood may flow.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 15 2021 20:34 utc | 44

It’s announced and official: Canadians elect a new government on Sept. 20.
And it’s Pride Parade day in Montreal.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-pride-lgbtq-parade-festival-1.5251533

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 15 2021 20:36 utc | 45

I have no idea if vaccines work or not. I believe they don’t but maybe I’m wrong.
What I do know is that the pandemic is used as an excuse for an unprecedented curtailing of personal liberties and on that matter our host’s silence is deafening.

Posted by: DG | Aug 15 2021 20:54 utc | 46

RE: Unz and The Saker
I know from personal experience, here at MoA. You can’t even mention being vaxxed or your reasons for doing it without being personally attacked and accused of pushing some crazy agenda. Just look at the last discussion in the open thread where “voices” never before heard at MoA appeared out of nowhere to insult me for telling my personal story about why my family got vaxxed even though I wasn’t 100% in favor of it….and am still not….yet. I just don’t happen to believe that the mRNA vaccines have the large scale “toxic” effects nor that they will (and are intended to) kill 2 BILLION people in the coming months? years? It’s tiresome and pointless to argue with them, like whackamole. Once you explain one thing about what you believe, up pops another claim that would take days of reading to fully flesh out.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 15 2021 21:09 utc | 47

It’s the same with the mask “debate.” All I do now in my personal circles when someone wants to argue about masks being an affront to their civil liberties is transcribe their rants wherein I substitute the word “pants” for “masks.” The government (and private businesses) INSIST that I wear PANTS in public or their establishments?!! Time for a protest march!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 15 2021 21:12 utc | 48

b, thanks for the link to LRB’s Boom-Boom Hush-Hush article. I couldn’t believe what I was reading there. Had never heard of Canada’s Camp X. Didn’t know about the Japan bat thing. “His [Donovan’s] most outlandish fantasy called for attacking Japan with bombs strapped to bats, on the false premise that the Japanese were afraid of bats.” Had no idea that prominent CIA figures retired to such positions as manager of the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus, or resurrecting the wine label Blue Nun. “Only later did Wisner learn that Dean was in France laying plans to invade Egypt, depose President Nasser and return the Suez Canal to Anglo-French control.” (no comment) Overall, a depressing read in ways, but an important one.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 15 2021 21:15 utc | 49

Posted by: Peltast | Aug 15 2021 20:01 utc | 40
Yup. Didn’t that claim originate on a site akin to “The Onion” or “Der Postillon”?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 15 2021 21:15 utc | 50

psychohistorian@45, thank you for your summation of the GT’s post. i think you’ve nailed it. over the years i’ve savoured your advice & insights. i’m 74, in my 75th yr, & like you will not be getting vaccinated, i’m sure it was a bioweapon & one of the final plays left to the demented empire, if the axis of resistance fail to keep them from nuking the world. if i had access to the sputnik V i’m would take it, as the research seems solid & i believe the russians were anticipating this play & prepared. today is truly historical. i wish iran, syria, yemen, the levant, & afghanistan peace & prosperity. i hope this is the harbinger of a new world, a world where all can prosper & grow. in my part of the world, victoria canada, we are run by woke green soros washed environmentalists. i concentrate on growing a beautiful garden to share with the neighbours. thank you for your advice regarding health & healing, they’ve been helpful. 🙂

Posted by: emersonreturn | Aug 15 2021 21:16 utc | 51

@Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 15 2021 20:36 utc | 46
Yep, Election Day here soon in what seems to be rapidly becoming the 51st state of the US, and what a choice available to use citizenry!
– A drama teacher who words endless SJW platitudes while aligning our foreign policy with the Evil Empire south of our border, aided by his neoconservative side-kick. We now act as the polite pit-bull for the US Empire and the needs of the Canadian rich – The Lima Group to overthrow Venezuela, accepting the Honduras coup, supplying occupiers for Afghanistan, putting down the popular struggle in Haiti, supporting the Nazis in the Ukraine …,
– Utterly off his rocker leader of the Conservatives, starting the election campaign with one of the dumbest ads ever made. The only good thing about this guy is that he accurately has the word “Tool” in his name. Outright, unconditional support for the Israeli state.
https://twitter.com/CPC_HQ/status/1426242355422765056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1426242355422765056%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftorontosun.com%2Fnews%2Fnational%2Fconservative-party-under-fire-from-own-members-over-tasteless-trudeau-ad
– An NDP leader who spends more time making tick tock videos and admiring himself than anything else, while supporting the Liberal foreign policy
– A Green Party leader who used lawyers to stop herself being voted out by the Party leadership committee as she is awful to work with and has a Zionist sidekick who went full on attack-dog on anyone who raises the Palestinian issue. Also, heavily groomed by the NGO and foundation complex to be a “good” Green, just like the leader of the German Green Party.
This is democracy in Canada, voting for the “least worst” candidate feels like choosing between being hanged or shot. When Trudeau’s dad and Jean Chretien seem wonderful compared to the present choices you know that the current political world is a complete shit-sandwich.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 15 2021 21:24 utc | 52

On 8 July, The New York Times published an article saying how the U.S. would maintain a “shadowy combination of clandestine special operations forces [Navy Seals, Army Rangers and Marines Green Berets — who have been directly involved, and in a big way, in most of what’s been happening in Afghanistan], Pentagon contractors and covert intelligence operations”.
At last count, the number of “Pentagon contractors” (a/k/a mercenaries) was 26,000. That begs the question of what’s happening to them in the mad scramble to get out.
The article also spoke of 650 troops to protect the U.S. embassy, since increased to we don’t know how many now. And we don’t know if the U.S. will even be able to maintain an embassy there because we don’t know if it will recognize the new government and agree to carry on diplomatic relations with it — nor if the new Afghan government will want diplomatic relations with the U.S. after what the U.S. has done to Afghanistan.
The far eastern strip of Afghan territory, the Wakhan Corridor, ends at Xinjiang, home of the Turkmen Muslim Uyghurs whom the U.S. has been filtering out of China to train as head choppers in the madrasas of Afghanistan (and filtering them back in, where they have been ending up in re-education camps). Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, a major geo-strategist and Colin Powell’s former chief of staff, figures the number of Uyghurs in Idlib, the last holdout of the headchoppers in Syria, to be +/-20,000. The chances of their ever going back to China (which could happen only through clandestine re-entry through to Corridor) has just shrunk to a negligible quantity.
The loss of control of Afghanistan will result in the loss of control of the Wakhan Corridor, hence the loss of access to western China through what has been the U.S.’s best surreptitious port of entry. There remains, then, only Hong Kong…

Posted by: RJPJR | Aug 15 2021 21:27 utc | 53

DG @ 47
it is tedious to keep refuting the lockdown issue if one ignores the haphazzard application of them; designed to fail at containment. Instead measures are designed to perpetuate and morph this disease in perpetuity.
One of the many reasons I avoid the jab is the deliberate confusion, lack of cohesion and supression of the science, not to mention past heinous acts performed on civilians by the USA in living memory leaves me chilled at the swiftness of the current attacks on freedom. What’s to trust?
If they approve a real vaccine and throw the patents for the ones they have into the garbage, I will be first in line, other than that I will be forced at gunpoint (or deprived of my income lol).
I went to my doctor to see if I should take Ivermectin and unfortunately I am not a candidate due to severe allergies so I am stuck with Vitamin D/Zinc/teas and other home remedies. Thanks to all for your contributions.
Passports are coming whether we like it or not.

Posted by: ld | Aug 15 2021 21:28 utc | 54

Posted by: juliania | Aug 15 2021 16:44 utc | 13
Greetings Juliana, I’m so glad you chose that segment from the scriptures, you know very well that I do not practice any religion but I read the whole Bible in my youth, and I’m always touched by its positive, even magical parts, and terrified by its vengeful and menacing ones. There is a poem by a famous Spanish writer in which he claims that his poem is for the Christ that walked the waters, not the one with blood in His hands.
Here you have Machado’s poem song by Serrat.
https://youtu.be/YqpNfZ1fzI8

Posted by: Paco | Aug 15 2021 21:35 utc | 55

Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 15 2021 21:12 utc | 49
Pants for masks
Sure would make the protests a lot more fun.
Thanks for the laugh
Perhaps the people promoting their mask theories should advocate surgical teams dispense with this unhealthy practice. Then we could feel the freedumb of their smiles.

Posted by: ld | Aug 15 2021 21:36 utc | 56

Why would the entire world respond to a bioweapon unleashed? Gosh, I don’t know. Must mean that everything the media tells you is true, I guess.
Why would people not get vaxed in order to stop the spread when it is already proven that it doesn’t stop the spread? Gosh, I don’t know. Must be Trumpian idiots, unable to interpret data in the same way as the media tells them. It’ll be great when they are all dead.
Why would people not cover their airways with masks everywhere they go, including outside, alone, in the sun and wind? Gosh, I don’t know. Must be complete imbeciles. Omigod, the women of Afghanistan are going to have to cover their heads, on command of the evil government!! We should invade and overthrow such an oppressive government.
Why would people oppose carrying around digital ID that has their identifying data on it, including their medical history and goddess only knows what else? Gosh, I don’t know. Must not care about the common good, or something.
Why would a “variant” of a bioweapon show up in sparsely populated areas, (known for resisting the topdown decrees), in the middle of summer nowhere around cold and flu season? Gosh, I don’t know. Must be a totally natural mutation that just happens to be more virulent, more transmissable, able to spread during summer months, and somehow mutated to target those sullen resistors who refuse to listen and submit to their betters.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 15 2021 21:40 utc | 57

@Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 15 2021 21:15 utc | 50
“Lawrence in Arabia: War, Deceit, Imperial Folly and the Making of the Modern Middle East” by the same author (Scott Anderson) gives an excellent background to the making of the current Middle East.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 15 2021 21:44 utc | 58

@ Roger 53
Now that I live in Montreal, I feel obligated to mention that you forgot to include the Bloc Québécois. Have no idea who I will vote for this round.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 15 2021 21:46 utc | 59

Divided We Fall
Don’t hide amongst the Heard
Don’t look the other way
and don’t believe a single word
of what they have to say
You better speak out while you can
better formulate a plan
Cuz this may be your final chance
to stand against The Man
They are silencing our voice
they control our every move
So much fuckery is happening
but there’s nothing we can prove
We can feel the velvet chains
grow shorter every day
and as of late they take less pains
to hide their power play
We must put antipathy aside
if we hope to change the course
we must cross the great divide
and join each other as one force
It’s time to oppose
those upon the throne
and take away their power
because they wish to own
the souls of those who meekly stand
divided and alone
Won’t you stand with me Brother
Won’t you join me in the Fight
Shoulder to shoulder
It’s time to set things right
Together we can do it
Together we are strong
Together we will shift the tide
The Battle has begun.

Posted by: ld | Aug 15 2021 21:49 utc | 60

The problem with discussing covid19 is that the context is a complex system, and lots of people are unwilling to delve into the subject to understand the nuance and subtlety. Too many people are addicted to the emotional satisfaction of outrage against an imagined opponent. Its very unfortunate.
Examples of subtle issues or nuance that gets simplified away into a partisan position:
1. Antibody-dependent Enhancement (ADE)
A 2015 study demonstrated how it works. It was something we definitely had to look out for, because it had the potential to make vaccinated people *much* more susceptible to infection by a variant. We have *not* seen that happen yet, and we likely would have if it was going to be a problem. This means several things:
– it was entirely reasonable to be wary of the covid vaccinations until we had more data
– ADE appears not to be a problem (and we can all be glad of it!)
Some partisans will not like one or other of those conclusions, but facts are facts until we know more.
For more info, please see the 3-hour interview of Robert Malone by Brett Weinstein
2. Vaccination before an epidemic is good, during an epidemic is bad
This is very subtle and understanding it relies on quite a bit of detail that Brett Weinstein helps Geert Vanden Bossche explain in a 1.5 hour interview (Dark Horse podcast). I won’t try to explain it here. It is a really good example of something complex – too complex and subtle to allow for outrage against a terrible, bad, morally-defective opponent.
3. Accumulation in bone marrow and ovaries
The Pfizer, Moderna, AZ all deliver a spike protein into cells (2 use mRNA, AZ uses nanolipids, they are just different delivery methods). The shot is supposed to stay in the shoulder – it doesn’t. That is a surprise. That’s not how it is supposed to work.
Unfortunately, the spike protein spreads all over the body in 8 hours, and by 48 hours it shows accumulation in bone marrow and ovaries. Now at this stage, we do not know if that is a real problem, but we should be careful.
If we do *not* see an increase in birth defects, ovulation problems, infertility, etc in the next year or so then maybe we can relax a bit. Unfortunately ovarian cancer would not be expected to show up for maybe 3-9 years.
We also need to monitor for marrow-related problems: low platelet count, low white blood cell count, leukemia, etc. If we do *not* see that in a few years then we can relax.
This is not an anti-vax screed – its just essential knowledge for informed consent.
4. Ivermectin debate
The facts have not been at all clear. SWPRS has an article link
We have fraudulent pro- studies and fraudulent anti- studies and, since the SWPRS article a review has been published by Tess Lawrie of 38 studies which might reduce uncertainty.
And Merck has been muddying the water:
– Merck says Ivermectin is no good
– Merck has a covid19 vaccine in the pipeline, but cannot get it approved (EUA) if Ivermectin works
PS. I won’t take offense to anyone calling me names due to this post. It will simply underscore my point. So many people don’t have the will to deal with the complexity of life and prefer the simplicity of two minutes of hate.

Posted by: Deltaeus | Aug 15 2021 22:00 utc | 61

Former MI-6 Chief hired to “advise” Goldman Sachs, thus providing further evidence of the linkage between secret government policy makers and Corrupt Bankers ongoing since the formation of the Bank of England. The late Mike Ruppert was very hot on that topic and had quite a lot of evidence complied at his copvcia website. Do recall the main reason for 911–the destruction of evidence linking Corrupt Banks with other corrupt government entities. Kit Klarenberg has uncovered a lot of filth over the last 3-4 years, although it seems too few are actively paying attention. For example, our bloodhound Max ought to be all over this material and writing essays that further connect the dots. To his credit, b has featured some of Kit’s work in his articles. Perhaps with this latest link, we’ll get to see deeper into the cesspool that’s Imperial Banking.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 15 2021 22:19 utc | 62

@Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 15 2021 21:46 utc | 60
My apologies, from South West Ontario, the land of the mad hatter Ford who takes his advice from a cartoon aardvark called Arthur. Yes, there is the Bloc Quebecois (just in Quebec of course). In my dreams there would be a Bloc Canada party, a truly nationalist party focused on the well being of the average Canadian and competent enough to win and make things happen. Oh well, dreams ….
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/who-is-arthur-how-a-boy-from-etobicoke-helped-the-ontario-premier-with-education-policy

Posted by: Roger | Aug 15 2021 22:26 utc | 63

To all those questioning the benefits of lockdowns I see none dealing with the incredible success of the Chinese lockdowns (short and sharp!), combined with an excellent contact tracing process and ongoing public health measures. This is what actual competence combined with a true sense of community and societal responsibility looks like. No “silver bullet” attitudes or anti-vaxxers, just saving the problem.
“In China, you have a combination of a population that takes respiratory infections seriously and is willing to adopt non-pharmaceutical interventions, with a government that can put bigger constraints on individual freedoms than would be considered acceptable in most Western countries”, adds Poland. “Commitment to the greater good is engrained in the culture; there is not the hyper-individualism that characterises parts of the USA, and has driven most of the resistance to the countermeasures against the coronavirus.” Poland noted that the Chinese accept the notion that disease control is a matter of science. “China does not have the kind of raucous anti-vaccine, anti-science movement that is trying to derail the fight against COVID-19 in the USA”, he said.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30800-8/fulltext

Posted by: Roger | Aug 15 2021 22:34 utc | 64

Although not yet official, Iran’s full SCO membership has cleared its final hurdles as “Tajikistan and Uzbekistan agreed to drop their objections.”
“The secretary of the SCO’s Supreme National Security Council stated, ‘Fortunately, the political obstacles to Iran’s membership in the Shanghai agreement have been removed and Iran’s membership will be finalized through technical formalities.'”
I expect a formal announcement to occur once the Afghanistan news retreats from the headlines by month’s end.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 15 2021 22:49 utc | 65

This from a couple of weeks ago –
Public Health England Technical Briefing 19 – Sars-Cov-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England
Public Health England Technical Briefing 19
Table 5 page 19 – Attendance to emergency care and deaths by vaccination status…genotyped Delta cases. 1/2/21 – 19/7/21
Unvaccinated – 165
Fully vaccinated (2 doses)- 224
Partial vaccinated (1 dose)- 65
Its seems to be pretty clear that 289 people that have been vaccinated have died compared to 165 unvaccinated.
If I am missing something here can someone please enlighten me.
Are the statistics lying?

Posted by: Bolsover | Aug 15 2021 23:08 utc | 66

Roger @65 makes a very good observation. The Chinese reacted to the release of the bioweapon in their country with strong and effective measures. Not only did they lock down the city, stop inter-city travel and cancel Chinese New Year, they managed to build new hospitals to treat the sick in only weeks.
Their measures did eradicate the virus within a month, as I recall, at which time they reopened, even hosting a water party with thousands of people frolicking, that made the US/NATO media scream with anger.
Compare and contrast to the ridiculous “lockdown” the US imposed, a scattered shutdown focused on small businesses, telling workers to stay home with no stipend to keep their bills paid and food obtained, which lasted many months. The only travel ban Trump instituted, from China, was met with screams of “racism” from the media and the Democrats. New York and Washington, the epicenters in the US, ignored the covid treatment hospitals the Feds provided, preferring to send covid infected patients to nursing homes instead.
Treatments were outlawed and official US policy was to tell sick people to stay home until their lips turned blue (a policy still in effect).
The entire US policy was NOT focused on controlling or eradicating the disease, the way that China did, nor on treating it, but on making the population so miserable that they would line up for their experimental jabs, with the promise dangled in front of them of “Do you want your lives back?”
But now they are going after the kids, so the whole promise is retracted, unless people push their children into the volcano also.
China still has a policy of complete eradication. The US and satellites have a police of complete vaccination and universal registration and tracking, with apartheid for the recalcitrant.
Anyone who watched WW2 movies and wondered how they would react now knows if they are actually smart enough to recognize a totalitarian police state in the making, or if they are Good Germans, willing to go with the flow.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 15 2021 23:13 utc | 67

There has been an update
Technical Briefing 20
1/2/2021 – 2/8/2021 Table 5 page 19
Total deaths = 742
1 dose = (10+69) 79
2 dose = 402
unvaccinated = 253
Can anybody explain these numbers?

Posted by: Bolsover | Aug 15 2021 23:21 utc | 68

Two years after the Soviets left Afghanistan, their empire collapsed (but not Afghanistan). The countdown to the end of the U.S. empire, exceptionalism and everything that goes with it has rounded the final corner and that old grey mare ain’t like she use to be. What will she do as a swan song? Are we going to witness, the chaos of Kabul airport repeated across 800 or so US bases around the world? Are they searcing now for scapegoats and a small shithole country (at least in their own eyes) to throw up against the wall? We are living in interesting times.

Posted by: Tom | Aug 15 2021 23:49 utc | 69

Deltaeus @ 62:

… The Pfizer, Moderna, AZ all deliver a spike protein into cells (2 use mRNA, AZ uses nanolipids, they are just different delivery methods) …

The Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines deliver part of the spike protein coating based on mRNA technology embedded in a nanolipid vector. The Astra Zeneca vaccine delivers the genetic code of part of the spike protein coating in a weakened adenovirus vector that causes common colds in chimpanzees.
Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine uses similar technology as the Astra Zeneca vaccine except that instead of the chimp adenovirus vector, it uses two human adenovirus vectors (one in the first shot, the other in the second shot).

Both the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines utilize mRNA technology. They use mRNA that codes for the spike protein in the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which is embedded in a nanolipid particle—basically a minuscule fat molecule. When injected into the body, cells churn out the spike protein, which causes the body’s immune system to recognize the virus.
The AstraZeneca and University of Oxford’s vaccine uses technology from an Oxford spinout company, Vaccitech. It deploys a replication-deficient chimpanzee viral vector based on a weakened version of a common cold virus (adenovirus) that causes infections in chimpanzees. It contains the genetic materials of the spike protein. After vaccination, the cells produce the spike protein, stimulating the immune system to attack the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Basically, all three vaccines use genetic material to code for the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but both Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna use nanolipid particles as vectors to get the genetic material into the cells, while the AstraZeneca-Oxford group uses an adenovirus vector similar to what is used in gene therapy.

The information in Part 3 of your comment is based on an apparently leaked Pfizer study done on rat obtained under FOI from the Japanese government. Scroll to Page 17 at the link to find the data showing total lipid concentrations and you’ll see a fair bit concentrating in the ovaries – though nothing to suggest that by the time the lipids concentrate in the ovaries (48 hours) they still retain the spike protein coating mRNA.
My comment is not to criticise yours but to add correction and context.

Posted by: Jen | Aug 15 2021 23:53 utc | 70

The second link in my comment @ 73 now doesn’t work so try this one.

Posted by: Jen | Aug 16 2021 0:02 utc | 71

Sigh … both links @ 71 and 72 now don’t work. You’ll just have to Google for the Japanese Pfizer rat study on the mRNA nanolipids … it will come up as a PDF link which might explain why my links keep failing.

Posted by: Jen | Aug 16 2021 0:05 utc | 72

Wagelaborer @ 68:
You make a good point which Roger @ 65 and so many others miss, that the way in which nations have used lockdowns to deal with COVID-19 is important, not the lockdowns themselves.
Roger @ 65 used the Wuhan lockdown chiefly to bash the anti-vaxxer community, many of whom might not have opposed lockdowns if the lockdowns had been used to move resources into building more effective quarantine facilities for people who had even mild symptoms instead of their being forced to stay at home or in places such as nursing homes where they spread the disease to other, more vulnerable people, and then stopped once those facilities had been built and put into action.
I have heard that in the UK, during the lockdowns there, people were dumped into nursing homes from hospitals and many of them given overdoses of midazolam.
Significantly the Lancet article Roger linked to mentions that Chinese authorities in Wuhan and later in Hebei Province acted fast in stationing health check points at public transport hubs (and even stopped public transport) and quickly set up temporary hospitals in stadiums and other large public spaces. It mentions that only 3% of elderly Chinese people live in care homes and most live with their families or close by.

Posted by: Jen | Aug 16 2021 0:22 utc | 73

I happen to possess a copy of the 1933 pamphlet “Bewaffneter Aufstand (Armed Insurrection)” by the Nazi Adolf Ehrt. So the claim that something was an armed insurrection that in fact was not has a history.

Posted by: lysias | Aug 16 2021 0:27 utc | 74

@69 Bolsover
It would appear that, yes, 150,000 unvaxxed clinical symptoms with HUGE under 50 skew with clinical symptoms:
147,000 under 50 delta cases
To 3,000 over 50.
Only 253 deaths out of 150,000 pool of unvaccinated Delta Cases
~50,000 vaxxed delta cases with even split btw 50+ years and under 50.
400 deaths from vaxxed pool of 50,000.
253/150,000 = .0016866666 deathrate for unvaxxed for delta
400/47,000 = .0085555 deathrate for vaxxed for delta
Very significant. Thanks for the share!

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 16 2021 0:34 utc | 75

@ karlof1 (#63), no surprise there. After leaving their chief position, most of the intelligence and military chiefs join the FINANCIAL sector.
I had shared this at MoA, “David Petraeus joined KKR (Bilderberg), George Tenet (Allen & Co), John Deutch (Citi), James Woolsey (Lux Capital), Jonathan Evans -MI5 (HSBC), Tommy Franks (Bank of America) … Which firm did Colin Powell join?”
Do these intelligence or military chiefs work in the best interest of their nations or of the world financiers/Financial Empire? Is the purpose of the U$A military & intelligence agencies to defend the nation & people or act as mercenaries for the Financial Empire? This is one more reason to call it the Financial Empire. It’s a big CLUB.
How about the Masters of Eurozone?

Posted by: Max | Aug 16 2021 0:51 utc | 76

here are lies, damn lies and statistics:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-15/when-politicians-manipulated-employment-data/100368622
By the way, did I forget to congratulate the GOVERNMENT of Afghanistan for taking back their country and throwing out the occupiers?

Posted by: Paul | Aug 16 2021 1:22 utc | 77

Ran across a link to this film today, My Dinner with Andre, a movie from 40 years ago describing a society that has become superficial, fragmented, drifting aimlessly. Missed this the first time around as ironically is was living a live that was quite isolated from movies and TV, a subject Andre touches on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lvOjiHFw0

Posted by: Tom | Aug 16 2021 1:49 utc | 78

“ADE appears not to be a problem (and we can all be glad of it!)
Some partisans will not like one or other of those conclusions, but facts are facts until we know more.
For more info, please see the 3-hour interview of Robert Malone by Brett Weinstein”
Look at Malone’s twitter share last week about ADE and the pandemic of the vaccinated. It’s nice to be up to date about these things and that’s what’s wonderful about the equivalent of the hoola hoop, our C-19 dance craze. 95% vaccination rate among the sick. 85-90% of the hospitalized are vaccinated…..in Israel.
https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1423332834282979329?s=20

Posted by: Saladin Abdul Jabar | Aug 16 2021 1:52 utc | 79

‘Afghanistan’ the movie will have a different ending but the blame will shift to the usual suspects:
https://johnmenadue.com/how-washington-co-opts-hollywood-and-the-news-media/

Posted by: Paul | Aug 16 2021 1:56 utc | 80

Why are HIQ whiteys in the entire fiveliars land wetting their pants over an impending Chinese attack ??? [1]
Forget COVID.
Run for your life…the west has been zombiefied !

I’ve started conversations with complete strangers here in Victoria recently and seen them start babbling about how awful China is within a few minutes, completely out of the blue. It’s like watching a zombie outbreak in real time.

[2]
[1]
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/08/open-thread-2021-61.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef0282e118a958200b#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef0282e118a958200b
[2]
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2021/08/13/basing-news-stories-on-corrupt-think-tanks-is-blatant-propaganda/

Posted by: denk | Aug 16 2021 2:07 utc | 81

Three days ago I posted this old video on MoA:

1975 – South Vietnam – Last US Evacuation Flight Out of Da Nang as City Falls to North – 29/3/75 – CBS News
On the morning of 29 Mar 1975, 2 World Airways Boeing 727s flew from Saigon to Da Nang in an attempt to pick up more refugees. When the first 727 landed at Da Nang Air Base, it was mobbed, 270 people pushed into the plane, all but 3 were from ARVN.
As the aircraft attempted to take off it was hit by a grenade which jammed the flaps and the main runway was blocked by trucks and the pilot instead took off from a taxiway.
A number of ARVN personnel hung onto the undercarriage and in the wheel wells, preventing the retraction of the landing gear, 4 of them survived the flight back to Saigon.
The PAVN (People’s Army of North Vietnam) entered the outskirts of Da Nang by mid-morning on 29 Mar 1975 and by the afternoon were in complete control of the city.

Unfortunately the YouTube channel has spoiled the video by changing the title, text and the thumbnail to state a 2021 in Kabul context. I went searching for the original text that accompanied the video and found this long article in the New York Times. (archive)

Troops Beat Out Civilians In Rush for Da Nang Plane – The New York Times, March 30, 1975
DA NANG, South Vietnam, March 29—Only the fastest, the strongest and the meanest got out today on what may be the last refugee plane from Da Nang.
I saw a South Vietnamese soldier kick an old woman in the face to get aboard.
In the movies somebody would have shot the soldier and helped the old woman aboard. But this was no movie—he flew and the old woman tumbled down the tarmac, her fingers clawing toward the plane as it rolled away.
People fought one another and died trying to get aboard. Others fell thousands of feet to their deaths in the sea because they could no longer cling to the undercarriage.
It was a flight out of hell and only the expertness of the American pilot got us back to Saigon’s Tan Son Nhut air base alive—with the Boeing 727’s flaps jammed and the wheels fully extended.

In case someone is wondering why the US needs 6000 troops at the Kabul airport, they are there to check boarding passes. I just wonder who will check their boarding passes.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Aug 16 2021 2:14 utc | 82

Nemesis 75
Thank you
A ratio of 5:1 doesn’t seem to be a ringing endorsement for the vaccine.
The numbers don’t lie.

Posted by: Bolsover | Aug 16 2021 2:20 utc | 83

iN GOOD old fukus [uk, us] tradition, they
already boobytrap the place even when they ‘disengage’.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2021/08/16/afghanistan-shenanigans/

Posted by: denk | Aug 16 2021 2:25 utc | 84

Hush Hush Boom Boom
Thank you b for that thoroughly enjoyable link to LRB. What a fing circus.
Grab a bottle of good spirit barflies and read this. You will need the drink.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 16 2021 2:44 utc | 85

Petri Krohn #82

In case someone is wondering why the US needs 6000 troops at the Kabul airport, they are there to check boarding passes. I just wonder who will check their boarding passes.

Thank you for your link the other day, I watched it immediately as I figure the utoob nazis monitor this site in case heretical material leaks out. It was a bleak experience.
As for the US troops boarding pass checking, I can only imagine the USA troops hoping to christ the CIA is not put in charge of checking them on board.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 16 2021 3:51 utc | 86

This interesting statement was removed from the US Republican party official website (gop.com), archived copy:
https://web.archive.org/web/20210615230810/https://gop.com/president-trump-is-bringing-peace-to-the-middle-east-rsr/

Time Magazine reported that other components of the agreement included an agreement that U.S. counterterrorism forces stay in the country, permissions for the CIA to operate in Taliban-held areas, and details of how the Taliban’s promises to reduce violence will be monitored and verified.

If true, and not some Pompeo aspirational bs, that is interesting. It might also explain Karzai’s continuing presence in the country.

Posted by: Billb | Aug 16 2021 3:59 utc | 87

denk #81
I hear that too but I never watch the news in the bunya nut republic. I can only imagine how awful it is. When I encounter these souls I hear them out and then tell them of the fantastic gadgets they can purchase through banggood or aliexpress and all made in China and way better that anything on ebay. Then ask a question or two and after they vent a little more I introduce the high speed rail links on the Chinese planning board and lament the delay for same in the short distance between Sydney and Melbourne or Brisbane.
Its a challenge that’s for sure.
The brainwash is the same technique that created dead aussies in Vietnam.
See here for a peek at mass psychosis over covid and imagine it applied to China. Its a 20 minute utoob goodie.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 16 2021 4:01 utc | 88

Wouldn’t you expect a higher % of hospitalisations and deaths among the vaccinated once a very high % of the population is vaccinated eg in ‘Israel’? If the vaccination program is concentrated on the most at risk the unvaccinated would be mostly children and young people who are less likely to be hospitalised anyway whereas the elderly who are most at risk will be overwhelmingly in the vaccinated group. Some of the stats quoted above seem to contradict this so it will be interesting to see some in-depth statistical analysis come out in the near future.

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Aug 16 2021 4:02 utc | 89

@Posted by: Bolsover | Aug 16 2021 2:20 utc | 83
I had the great honour when I was young of meeting Dennis Skinner MP, the “Beast of Bolsover” one of those few Labour MPs who grew up in a working class environment – his dad was a miner who took part in the 1926 Miners Strike and he was a coal miner himself and stayed true to his roots. Very well known for his acerbic wit and calling “a spade a spade”.
Some of his best outbursts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLxWrp-rEeg

Posted by: Roger | Aug 16 2021 4:07 utc | 90

denk
China Derangement Syndrome.

Posted by: Smith | Aug 16 2021 4:16 utc | 91

@ uncle tungsten | Aug 16 2021 2:44 utc | 85 and b with the Hush Hush Boom Boom link….it is worth a read.
On a personal note, in 2004 a person with a valid CIA email address ordered one of my products over my 800 number and told me at the end of the call that I shouldn’t be saying bad things about our then president on international phone calls……which I had done….you know, about that Afghanistan war thing…
What is coke head George W saying these days anyway?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 16 2021 4:16 utc | 92

From time to time I click on NYT. Suddenly…
“A Sudden Downfall in Afghanistan
Readers debate the wisdom and the timing of the U.S. withdrawal.
Aug. 15, 2021
——
The Sudden Fall of Andrew Cuomo
“Andrew Cuomo did this to himself,” a reader writes. Also: Climate change; democracy in Hungary; Israel’s universities; separating work from home.
Aug. 10, 2021

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 16 2021 4:20 utc | 93

Roger @53, on the same page as you and concur with your characterizations. Thinking “None of the above” for that sorry roster of four names, with the ostensibly anti-bullying one that somehow completely fails to see bullying on the world stage being the least bad choice of the bunch if I were forced to choose one from those four. Will probably look further down the field …
And like you @64, I’ve also long-wished for a Bloc Canada that cares about defending Canadian sovereignty and independence.

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Aug 16 2021 4:30 utc | 94

Dear Roger @ 53
I would add but I could not possibly improve on your take.
We have no one.

Posted by: ld | Aug 16 2021 4:50 utc | 95

uncle tungsten 88
‘See here for a peek at mass psychosis over covid and imagine it applied to China. Its a 20 minute utoob goodie.’
From the vid…

Sowing of fear

When Trumen asked Arthur Vandenberg how to
rally the mass against USSR, the sen replied

Lets just scare the hell outta the poor dears

There you have it, western statecraft in a nutshell.
https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/the-us-scare-campaign-against-china/
——————–

Posted by: denk | Aug 16 2021 4:54 utc | 96

Smith 91
‘China Derangement Syndrome.’
Delusional persecution complex
Enemy deficit syndrome ?
The west are forever persecuted, they always
need a bogeyman,

Posted by: denk | Aug 16 2021 4:58 utc | 97

Roger 90 – brilliant.
My grandfather started work there at age 14 when his father died. The company always gave a job to the son when a miner died. His first job was looking after the pit ponies, this would have been in the early 20’s.

Posted by: Bolsover | Aug 16 2021 5:12 utc | 98

@ denk | Aug 16 2021 4:58 utc | 97 with
Smith 91
‘China Derangement Syndrome.’
Delusional persecution complex
Enemy deficit syndrome ?
The west are forever persecuted, they always
need a bogeyman,
How about?
Ongoing Obfuscation Obsession
Excessive Entitlement Expressions

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 16 2021 5:17 utc | 99

Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar (Dari: عبدالغنی برادر‎; born 1968), is allegedly a co-founder of the Taliban in Afghanistan along with Mohammed Omar.
It was known for some time that Baradar advocated negotiation before he was arrested in Pakistan in 2010 at amerika’s behest. Then afghan Prez Karzai wasn’t happy that Baradar had been snatched.
Pakistan is also reputed to have advocated Baradar’s release which finally occured in 2018 after amerika gave Pakistan the green light.
Shortly after that a ‘peace process’ was instituted in Doha between Taleb & amerika with Baradar lead Taleban negotiator. President Ashraf Ghani had no part in the talks, in fact resisted taking part.
Baradar has been in Doha pretty much continually ever since although some reports have him returning on Monday August 16 2021.
All the usual neolib rags are announcing Baradar as being the next Premier of Afghanistan, however there has been no word from the Taleban confirming or denying that.
Taleban leadership is diverse and in fact those who do not wish to be tied to whatever timetable has been discussed at Doha may well have decided to go pedal to the metal in order to undermine Baradar’s strategy.
None of us can possibly judge what is actually going down in Afghanistan, we are too far removed and cannot rely on the western propaganda sources which thus far are pretty much the only sources available.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 16 2021 5:32 utc | 100

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