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August 10, 2021

Open Thread 2021-61

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john @Aug12 11:10 #288

The virus is probably transmitted via BOTH droplets and aerosol.

Droplets contain lots of virus particles and are most heavily concentrated near the source (someone that is sick). Wearing masks greatly reduces risk from droplets.

Aerosols are widely dispersed. Indoor spaces that are not properly ventilated pose a greater risk of infection.

Masks are not useless. They just have to be used appropriately and measures need to be taken to improve mask effectiveness. Instead of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, we can simply improved ventilation of indoor areas that pose a risk.

Naturally, government-hating Libertarians prefer to promote the message: "masks don't work" instead of demanding improved indoor ventilation by yet-another government mandate.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 12 2021 15:15 utc | 301

Adding to my last comment (Aug12 15:15 #301):

When I got sick in July, it was from walking down a street that was closed for festivities celebrating Italy's World Cup win.

It was outside. I almost certainly got infected by droplets, not aerosol.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 12 2021 15:21 utc | 302

‘Looks very awful and ill’: Journalist tells RT he ‘couldn’t recognize’ Assange during High Court hearing on his extradition to US

Assange’s prospects are looking “even worse now because the United States was granted three out of five grounds to appeal regarding Julian Assange at the High Court and today what’s happened is that this decision has been overturned, so it’s not three out of five, it’s all five,” Medhurst explained. “So now they can go into the High Court in October and they can question the validity of these psychiatric evaluations.”

... it doesn’t necessarily have to result in a conviction in the end. The whole process is the punishment.”

“The fact that he’s been in arbitrary detention for seven years and two years in Belmarsh, this could be dragged out for decades, and this is what they want. They want to torture Assange and make an example out of him.”


Emphasis is mine.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 12 2021 15:38 utc | 303

Bad news for the USA, Israel and Japan:

Pfizer vaccine efficacy with delta strain was 42%, Moderna - 76%; Sputnik V, 83%

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Xinhua Commentary: Inflating China threat won't heal America's infrastructure woes

Biden's "infrastructure bill" will fail mainly for two reasons (there are many more):

1) the bill dilutes those USD 3.5 trn (of which only USD 1 trn is directly to infrastructure; the rest is "related to") in 8 years. USD 3.5 trn in 8 years is nothing to an economy the size of the USA's, regardless of the economic system it uses;

2) this money will be further diluted by the famous subcontractors/middlemen corruption that is endemic and ubiquitous in the USA. The USA is the Mecca of the petty bourgeoisie, and the petty bourgeoisie is extremely greedy and parasitic. Everything requires some three layers of white collar middlemen to get done in that country (see, for example, its healthcare industry). As a result, say, a simple dam costing USD 500 billion can simply balloon to some USD 1.5 trn, and take ten times the time to build.

To make things even worse, this will all happen in an environment of high (and increasing) inflation, which means the purchase power of those USDs will fall as they're used and siphoned off by its corrupt middle classes.

Posted by: vk | Aug 12 2021 15:42 utc | 304

@ vk | Aug 12 2021 15:42 utc | 304:

It will also be interesting to see how much of this "infrastructure" money ends up being allotted to pork projects, "defense," and military aid to "The Middle East's Only Democracy."

Posted by: corvo | Aug 12 2021 16:11 utc | 305

@Blue Dotterel #280
Fair enough - I amend to say: patents are not significant in any way regarding conspiracies over COVID.
Patent trolling is definitely a problem.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 12 2021 16:17 utc | 306

@pretzelattack #300
The definition of a hard science is one where you can test and measure results.
It doesn't matter if its is physics (string theory) or sociology (Critical Race Theory) or economics (efficient markets) or climate science - these are all soft sciences because you cannot test nor measure results, only speculate on causes and effects.
I will repeat again: why do we think climate science is a science when they fail predictions, consistently and often, over 30+ years?
Why do we think climate scientists have any credibility whatsoever when the core of their science - ECS (equilibrium climate sensitivity) which is the level by which emissions affect temperature - the range was going up for 30 years until this last AR6 report, when the top end dropped slightly?
In what universe is a supposed physical constant so impossible to constrain?
Either it isn't a physical constant or the scientists are incompetent/agenda driven.
I'm fairly sure it is the latter.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 12 2021 16:22 utc | 307

@ Posted by: c1ue | Aug 12 2021 16:22 utc | 307

Climate science is still very young. There are still not any consolidated theory.

Biology was a joke before Darwin's Natural Selection theory. Western medicine was an even worse joke before Pasteur came up with the Germ Theory. So far, the Antropocene hypothesis is the least worse hypothesis we have that explains and can predict the last 200 years pattern of climate change.

Posted by: vk | Aug 12 2021 16:27 utc | 308

@ jaime | Aug 12 2021 5:19 utc | 267... you're an asshole.. that much is clear....

@ Zweckpessimist | Aug 12 2021 7:05 utc | 276... exactly right.. thanks!

@ john | Aug 12 2021 11:10 utc | 289... i think if one reads that '''1''' paper you cite on the issue of facemasks being '''unsettled'', they can come to any number of conclusions, including yours.... i would like to quote from the article - "Given that there is no evidence that they cause any harm either, proponents would rather err on the side of caution and encourage their continued use, stressing that there is no room for complacency when it comes to ensuring patient safety."

Posted by: james | Aug 12 2021 16:28 utc | 309

@Roger @pretzelattack
For those of us who actually look at the details - nothing about climate science is confidence building.
Steve McIntyre has uncovered numerous shenanigans pulled by supposed climate scientists; the latest posting looks at AR6 and their ongoing hockey stick bullshit.
IPCC hockey stick games

Long story short: the hockey stick is created through cherry picking of proxies

The PAGES2019 dataset consists of 257 proxies, selected from the prior PAGES2017 dataset consisting of 692 proxies, which had previously been selected from thousands of proxy series accumulated by many authors over the years.

But even this subset isn't enough, so certain authors took it upon themselves to further "improve" the data by cutting off inconvenient portions, by flipping proxies upside down (!), by even doing this to individual tree records comprising a proxy set.

This isn't science, this is agitprop.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 12 2021 16:28 utc | 310

Thanks to the barflies who responded to my asking for data about their motor fuel costs to test Jake Sullivan's assertions that fuel cost inflation here in the Outlaw US Empire is OPEC's fault, not the flooding of cash into Wall Street by the Federal Reserve. More data would be nice, but based on what was provided it's very clear that Fed policy is to blame, not OPEC, making Jake Sullivan just another lying, misdirecting Bureaucrat we've come to know and loathe so well.

I also need to thank Roger for his excellent reply on the previous thread page and its info on the Finnish position of which I was unaware.

I found this RT op/ed very interesting as its title indicates: "The EU’s financial imperialism wins again, pummeling Poland into submission and leaving Hungary’s Viktor Orban out on his own."

This news item reports Lavrov's remarks at a Crimean art festival:

"By indulging Ukraine's claims to Crimea, West is encouraging country's ‘neo-Nazi’ government policy, thunders Russian FM Lavrov....

"[O]n Thursday, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that the West's support was pushing Zelensky to be more and more extreme in pursuit of his policy goals. The 'Crimean Platform' forum, he said, 'will continue to nurture the neo-Nazi and racist mentality of the current Ukrainian government.'"

There's nothing posted yet at the MFA's website about this event.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 12 2021 16:44 utc | 311

Meanwhile, Taliban continue to consolidate in Afghanistan, as Herat falls. Will be interesting to see if Taliban 2.0 allows more integration with foreign commerce and associated defense forces. Previously this couldn't happen if there were random bombing from the air. Might change if China and Pakistan see enough in it for them to defend the skies...

Posted by: ptb | Aug 12 2021 17:06 utc | 312

ptb @312--

Nice to read a comment from you! Yes, air defense will be critical and is likely one of the topics being discussed by SCO nations as all are vested in Afghanistan's development via BRI which spreads throughout the entire region. Russia could probably close the Afghan skies to B-52s today with what it already has stationed in the region. With Biden continuing to goad Ukraine on over Crimea, that might happen soon.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 12 2021 17:21 utc | 313

Putin on the Peresvet weapon.
“We have achieved significant progress in laser weapons. It is not just a concept or a plan anymore. It is not even in the early production stages. Since last year, our troops have been armed with laser weapons. I do not want to reveal more details. It is not the time yet. But experts will understand that with such weaponry, Russia’s defense capacity has multiplied.”

Multiplied Russia's defense capacity, not just an addition to...

No ventilation for cooling of a power unit. I had thought light energy and electromagnetic energy were completely different forms of energy.
"Electromagnetic energy is said to be the type of energy which comes from electromagnetic waves. These radiation travels with the speed of light and can be composed of radio waves, TV waves, radar waves, heat, light, X-rays, visible waves, etc."
" Thermal radiation, also known as heat, is the emission of electromagnetic waves from all matter that has a temperature greater than absolute zero."

The laser is part of Russia's strategic defense. Blinding satellites? All well and good if the US is honorable and Phones Russia to tell them US is launching a surprise attack which will give Russia time to blind the US satellites and move their mobile launchers.
From what I have seen of Russian weapons systems they will not deploy a weapon that only works under perfect conditions.

The complete Peresvet unit is heavy - 50 tons or more judging by the number of axles under the trailer. A nuclear reactor as the power unit? The Russian deputy defense minister spoke of expecting an imminent breakthrough in physics, sometime during or after 2018 Putin said that breakthrough had be made.

In a previous thread, Gordog said radiation can be used to cool disperse waste heat from a nuclear reactor in space.
For a laser/directed energy weapon, could that heat be channeled into a beam without first being converted to electricity and the converted to whatever electromagnetic frequency range the Peresvet operates on?


Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 12 2021 17:22 utc | 314

The picture of science as nothing but successful prediction, where all scientific hypotheses are simple and immediately falsifiable by experiment, is indeed common. The primary exponent of this picture is the right-wing philosopher Karl Popper. I believe it is popular with conservative scientists, who are after all people who have let their right-wing prejudices compromise their work. Science however is about explaining the world. A world where higher temperatures somehow create carbon dioxide is one operating on unknown principles. But the world where carbon dioxide absorbs more infrared radiation---keeping it from escaping into space, thereby cooling the planet---is the one we live in. It's true that models are not laboratory controlled experiments. But the requirement that the term science be limited solely to the results of laboratory controlled experiments is purely a political requirement, ideology that has nothing to do with explaining the world. So-called criticisms that focus only on imaginary criteria for scientificity are more examples of the creationist playbook: Don't explain, just poke holes. But the point is to explain.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 12 2021 17:25 utc | 315

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 12 2021 16:44 utc | 311

This short message by Lavrov to the Russian olympians that participated under the name of ROK, or Russian Olympic Komitet, has not been translated. Machine trans might do it, just take into consideradtion that ROK in Russian means destiny or fate, he plays with that word. Enjoy.

https://www.mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/4836442

Posted by: Paco | Aug 12 2021 17:58 utc | 316

Thank you, Paco @ 315 -- I was wondering where 'We will ROC you' came into the scenario - lovely!

Posted by: juliania | Aug 12 2021 19:25 utc | 317

Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 11 2021 19:10 utc | 205

Apparently the US is moving its troops from Afghanistan, Iraq to Jordan. It has made an agreement which covers 17 bases and use of several facilities that belong to the Jordanian army/airforce.
AL Tanf is supposed to be reinforced. (Proviso - from recent memory - I will try to find original article)
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Probably to get them out of Irans immediate range, and to take the heat off them in Iraq.

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 12 2021 20:09 utc | 318

Here is the Link for US troop movements;

https://english.iswnews.com/20015/us-transfer-troops-to-jordan/

According to this agreement, American forces control 12 bases for 15 Years, from which 4 are used jointly by Jordan for training and other purposes.

Under the agreement, some Jordanian bases will also be used by US forces. Accordingly, Muwaffaq Salti Air Base will become the main base and headquarters of US drones in West Asia.
t was also decided that the US military would operate at the Jordanian Air Force Main Training Center (Amman Training Center) in the Jordanian capital, Al-Hamimah Naval Base, Jordanian Air Force Command Center (King Abdullah II Air Base), Aqaba Naval Base، Jordanian military training base in al-Quwara, King Abdullah’s base to train Jordanian special forces, Prince Hassan Air Base, Prince Faisal Air Base, Al-Tatan Training Barracks and 15 border bases with Iraq and Syria.

Al-Tanf’s US base on the Iraqi-Syrian border is expected to be strengthened after the large-scale deployment of US troops in Jordan.

Note that the UK is already there too. The numbers doesn't add up to 17 as per previous post, but 15 border bases plus 9 Air bases and training bases now gives 24.

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 12 2021 20:33 utc | 319

Lurk @ 294, thanks for that link about CIA coke business!

Peter, about Peresvet: interesting statements by Putin. I can't help much on your on laser tech question. My knowledge on lasers is minimal, lol!

Posted by: Gordog | Aug 12 2021 20:56 utc | 320

Got a chuckle from this one. The self referential unawareness stuns. Look at the content creator...

News Words: Decadent

Posted by: UnionHorse | Aug 12 2021 21:33 utc | 321

News Words: Decadent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Hyxs1dGlY

trying that link post again...

Posted by: UnionHorse | Aug 12 2021 21:34 utc | 322

Paco @315--

Thanks for that! I just read the Empire is committing a brigade--3,000 troops--to cover the evacuation of the Kabul Embassy. And then, there's this:

"'Apocalypse Now': What are Risks of CIA's Possible All Out Clandestine War Against Russia & China?"

A former spook wants to light the fuse because of all the unproven allegations made against Russia and China. I'd tell him it would be better for him to blow his brains out and save genuine patriots the trouble. The evac exercise will be interesting to watch as I'm certain several SNAFUs will occur.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 12 2021 21:58 utc | 323

Carnival Vista and the covid adventure

https://www.ambergristoday.com/news/2021/08/11/carnival-vista-arrives-in-belize-with-covid-positive-cases

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 12 2021 22:04 utc | 324

karlof1 322

US military has combat experience of embarking on helicopters from roofs so all should be well.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 12 2021 22:36 utc | 325

librul #295

Colonel Vindman and the 'interagency' etc... my condolences for having to tolerate these morons.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 12 2021 22:52 utc | 326

Herat then Kandahar. Talibans had a busy day, truly. They're going to have an even busier week soon, because Kabul will be sieged very very soon, at this pace.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Aug 12 2021 22:52 utc | 327

uncle tungsten @323--

Yes, I linked to an item announcing that yesterday. All crew and passengers had proof of vaccination, although some might have been forged. The incident proved the point I've been making that vaccinations aren't sufficient as you can contract and spread Covid regardless, and that masking, social distancing and aggressive tracing are still required. That the Outlaw US Empire has yet to construct a national tracing database after 20 months of pandemic and over 600K deaths is beyond outrageous; yet in the recent spending bill, there's zero $$s allocated for what's a critical piece of infrastructure. IMO, the best way to describe this condition is Covid-Anarchy.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 12 2021 22:55 utc | 328

karlof1 #327

Thank you, yes I followed your link yesterday and thought it wise to follow this cruise ship daily just to see if they ever cite the vax that works so well. ++ for CovidAnarchy :))

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 12 2021 23:08 utc | 329

Jackrabbit

“At present, there are no known clinical findings, immunological assays or biomarkers that can differentiate any severe viral infection from immune-enhanced disease, whether by measuring antibodies, T cells or intrinsic host responses” (Arvin et al. 2020; Liu et al.,2019)

Clinically, you'll never know.

Posted by: Jezabeel | Aug 12 2021 23:14 utc | 330

karlof1 #322

I just read the Empire is committing a brigade--3,000 troops--to cover the evacuation of the Kabul Embassy. And then, there's this:

"'Apocalypse Now': What are Risks of CIA's Possible All Out Clandestine War Against Russia & China?"

Sore losers. Mind you I doubt that a brigade will do anything other than add intense chaos to a 'withdrawal' from the US embassy! Since when is a nation as small as Afghanistan housing a US embassy so large that it needs 3,000 soldiers to escort them out of town? That is truly a measure of DipolaticAnarchy.

What about all those gentle Turkish soldiers at the airport? Will they get a lift out of town before the craters appear in the runway?

My guess is that the Taliban will exercise restraint up until the last US embassy and its 'escort' depart as the Afghani elite sure will be pushing to join the queue and they will be gunned down as escorts do. Saigon revisited is soon to be seen.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 12 2021 23:33 utc | 331

.... DiplomaticAnarchy... that is :/

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 12 2021 23:36 utc | 332

Pretty soon the only country in the Lima group will be Canada.

Saint Lucia to Abandon the Lima Group

", is the second to announce its withdrawal from the interventionist Lima Group this week, following Peru’s announcement to leave the entity.|
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Posted by: arby | Aug 12 2021 23:49 utc | 333

Maybe, JUST maybe USA's plan all along was to prop up the Taliban and allow it to slowly take over Afghanistan while pretending to "fight it". A fundamentalist group such as the Taliban will NEVER modernize or allow Afghanistan to modernize and will be sure to keep the chaos in Afghanistan going for 10-20 more years, thus preventing Afghanistan to be integrated into BRI. All of US's actions in the last 20 years prove my theory is correct.
Chew on this, SUCKERS!

Posted by: Hoyeru | Aug 12 2021 23:50 utc | 334

Hoyeru--

It must smart to watch your country slip and slide.

Posted by: arby | Aug 13 2021 0:01 utc | 335

This 'Hoyeru' character is always good for a hearty belly laugh. 😹

Desperation dies last, lol!

Maybe the US will pull that secret 'alien' technology out of the drawer?

Btw, Bhadrakumar has a good Af article up today:

https://www.indianpunchline.com/taliban-neutralises-the-afghan-warlords/

Posted by: Gordog | Aug 13 2021 1:12 utc | 336

Lithuania thinks it is a province of the Empire, when, actually, it is just a minor military outpost:

Lithuania cannot count on US much when it comes to internal governance

Being conquered by the Romans doesn't give you Roman citizenship.

Posted by: vk | Aug 13 2021 1:35 utc | 337

Whatever happened to Dandelion Tea?

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.19.435959v1.full


Common dandelion (Taraxacum officinale) efficiently blocks the interaction between ACE2 cell surface receptor and SARS-CoV-2 spike protein D614, mutants D614G, N501Y, K417N and E484K in vitro

In a test tube dandelion tea has an effect, a solid one.

Next should come human trials.
But look what has happened to ivermectin. Politics and Big Pharma have gotten in the way.
Do you think a simple garden and lawn weed is going to stand a chance against those critters?

If you read the technical article linked above, you will read that they used the leaves of the dandelion plants only. Only the leaves.
And they were dried leaves. That is what you use in dandelion tea. Most herb products containing the dandelion plant use the root, not the leaf. So pay attention if you decide to hedge your bets and buy some before it sells out and becomes hard to secure.

Also, don't hold your breath waiting for human trials. Big Pharma is watching out for you.

If you got a vaccine, wear a mask, take vitamin D3 and observe safe distancing
what is it going to hurt to do that while drinking some tea.

It's a free country.

Posted by: librul | Aug 13 2021 3:57 utc | 338

Below is a short Xinhunet posting that speaks LOUDLY, IMO

"
WASHINGTON, Aug. 12 (Xinhua) -- Chinese Ambassador to the United States Qin Gang on Thursday met with U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Wendy R. Sherman.

"The two sides held in-depth and candid discussions," said Qin when responding to questions from the media after the meeting.

"Both sides agreed that China-U.S. relations are very important, and it is necessary for the two sides to resolve issues through dialogue and communication, properly manage differences and disagreements, and improve the bilateral relations," said Qin.

Qin emphasized that the Taiwan question is the most important and sensitive issue in China-U.S. relations. He said he clearly stated China's position on the issue to Sherman in the meeting.
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Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 13 2021 4:05 utc | 339

Xinhuanet has a couple of postings up about the advance of the Taliban in Afghanistan and I just want to support karlof1 upthread who said the US exit from Afghanistan by the end of the month has the potential to be a 3-ring circus show....stay tuned....the kick in the ass on the way out may be worth watching for....grin

Over 4500 troops to get 1400 Embassy folk out....but then who gets the troops out?
Less than 3 weeks and counting but more troops coming in....what could go wrong here?
Maybe somebody is going to bomb a strategic airport runway or such....

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 13 2021 4:28 utc | 340

OK it's Friday night where I am. meaning it's time for any of us to post a bit of culture. Here's some blue-eyed soul . Also here. Blue eyed soul should be illegal in the land of patent protection except it is, despite the blatant plagiarism, the brilliant epitome of 60's bourgeois amerika.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 13 2021 8:06 utc | 341

Jimmy Dore and Tucker Carlson talk peace. Found at Geroman on twitter here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1425990539053178889

This a good few minutes and the oddest combination of commenters in this loony USA of 2021.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 13 2021 9:47 utc | 342

Gordog #335

Thank you for that link - bleak prospects indeed for the Ghani cronies. Dostum is just one low life opportunist and if he can escape Afghanistan I am sure he would be right at home as a deputy to Biden or even a executive manager for Bolton.

Some unpleasant takeaways from the Indian Punchline...

Dostum, a car mechanic by profession, was a creation of the KGB. After the Soviet collapse, Tashkent became his watering hole. He has since served Pakistan’s ISI (helping the Taliban to capture Herat in 1995) and Turkey. Ideology or politics never bothered him. Currently,Turkey commands Dostum.

Therefore, it’s highly intriguing that while Dostum is challenging the Taliban, the tidings from Ankara are that Turkey’s President Erdogan is planning a summit meeting between himself and the Taliban leader! Dostum was recently in Ankara and conceivably, Turkish intelligence briefed him.

True? this scumbag has more lives than a cat and with his ethical refinements would be right at home with Erdogan.

Ghani took the Uzbek warlord Rashid Dostum with him to Mazar-i-Sharif. They have a common interest insofar as Dostum too is a beached whale in Kabul. Ghani’s primary objective is to arrange a patch-up between Dostum and the Tajik warlord ruling Mazar-i-Sharif, Mohammed Atta.

If Atta has any sense of history he might consider a patch of C4 on Dostum's forehead as a good will gesture.

Surely Afghanistan has no further need for criminals and sociopaths like Dostum. He has gouged and brought ruination on his country and should never be enabled to exit to any Dubai refuge:

The warlords are notoriously greedy for money. In 2001, Americans brought in dollar bills in gunny bags literally, to ‘incentivise’ the warlords who got used to demanding huge kickbacks since then, amassing properties in Dubai or wherever and have become multi-millionaires. No wonder, Afghan Finance Minister simply resigned and fled abroad on Wednesday.

Will President Biden re-employ the warlords? Extremely doubtful.

I disagree with Bhadrakumar on this. You bet Biden would employ him and maybe has plans to that exact end especially if the egomaniacal Erdogan is in on the gig. Can you imagine these three obscene greedy rsoles let loose to destroy Afghanistan renewal and sabotage any chance of OBOR integration.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 13 2021 10:20 utc | 343

""No, it’s not being considered," he said.

According to him, the Taliban has no opportunities to capture Kabul "in the foreseeable future.""

Evacuation of Russian Embassy in Kabul not considered, envoy says

Posted by: arby | Aug 13 2021 12:03 utc | 344


Canadian judge unusually questions validity of US' claim for extradition of Huawei's Meng Wanzhou as legal battle enters final stage

"In effect, the US said "Jump!" and Canada's bureaucrats asked meekly, "How high?" said the expert."

Posted by: arby | Aug 13 2021 12:36 utc | 345

Headline:
UK's SAGE Advisor Says Lockdowns Can No Longer Be Justified

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/uks-sage-advisor-says-lockdowns-can-no-longer-be-justified

A top SAGE (Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies) adviser to the UK government says that COVID lockdowns can no longer be justified and that measures to control the virus should instead be aimed at protecting the most vulnerable.

Posted by: librul | Aug 13 2021 15:05 utc | 346

Strategic Culture Today
One year ago this week, Sputnik V became the world’s first officially registered vaccine against the Covid-19 disease. It was a remarkable achievement by the world-renowned Gamaleya institute of epidemiology and microbiology in Moscow.

The development and registration of the Russian-made vaccine took place within eight months of the first officially reported outbreak of the disease in China and within five months of the World Health Organization declaring a global pandemic from the SARS-CoV-2 novel coronavirus and its potentially lethal Covid-19 respiratory symptoms.

Sputnik V’s name is a nod of gratitude to an earlier breakthrough achievement when the Soviet Union became the first nation to launch a satellite into space orbit in 1957.


The rapid pace of developing Sputnik V reflected the international alarm about the threat to human health from the new coronavirus. A year and half on from the declared pandemic, some 4.4 million people around the world have died from infection, and millions of others have been stricken infirm. The global impact on societies and economies has been devastating. It is doubly concerning that the pandemic shows no sign of being brought under control. Infections and deaths across the globe are on the rise again mainly as a result of new and more transmissible variants of the virus mutating.

A major factor in impeding a global program of vaccination is the Russophobia (and Sinophobia) of Western governments. This ideological prejudice is reprehensible, if not criminal. The fate of millions of lives is hanging in the balance because of offensive political prejudice.

Russia: "We have the vaccine... here it is for free"
America: "Fuck off! We will kill every single American first!"

Posted by: ld | Aug 13 2021 20:12 utc | 347

He he... "China issues white paper on achieving human rights from development, model ‘suitable for developing countries’: Achievements offer 'Chinese approach' on pattern, refute rumors by West".

Again, I urge barflies to slowly digest the large collection of White Papers published by China in English, which is one of the ways it tries to provide transparency. For example in relation to the Climate Crisis thread, there were two papers published last December, "Energy in China's New Era," and "Sustainable Development of Transport in China."

The article begins thusly:

China on Thursday issued a white paper on how its achieving all-round moderate prosperity, or xiaokang, boosted universal human rights in the country, as analysts said it is a 'slap in the face' of the US and the West, which have been racking their brains to attack China on 'human rights' issues, and also offers a 'Chinese approach' on human rights development for other developing countries.

"Titled 'Moderate Prosperity in All Respects: Another Milestone Achieved in China's Human Rights,' the white paper was released by the State Council Information Office on Thursday. It introduces China's practices and achievements in realizing moderate prosperity and advancing human rights: ending extreme poverty and securing the right to an adequate standard of living, protecting civil and political rights with the law and governance, and promoting social equality and protecting the rights of disadvantaged groups."

An excellent Infographic is supplied with the article as it notes the White Paper was written in part because Xi "solemnly declared the completion of the goal of building China into a moderately prosperous society in all respects," while addressing the 100th anniversary celebration of China's Communist Party.

While the West slings unsubstantiated muck at China, China replies with facts, yet more evidence of the West being a dangerous nuclear armed paper tiger.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 13 2021 20:34 utc | 348

librul #338

Dandelion tea is excellent to drink. Dont be such a naysayer and get on board. It really has a toning up effect and the leaves are delicious salad greens.

There are centuries of knowledge from around the planet that sing its praises. Roasted Dandelion root makes a fine 'coffee'.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 13 2021 21:17 utc | 349

Syrians living in fear and persecution in Turkey: https://twitter.com/LindseySnell/status/1426209485270536201

These constant assaults against Syrians in Turkey indicates that there will be a final Syrian Army liberation in Idlib very soon. Clearly Erdoghan has let loose the Turkish Nationalist faction against the refugee Syrian community.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 13 2021 23:28 utc | 350

Dandelions are good plants etc... my final contribution to comrades:-

A search on LazyWeb pointed to this: https://twitter.com/LindseySnell/status/1426209485270536201

It is a 2011 paper and substantially annotated and the result yields a few hours/days of further reading.

The conclusion:

The antiviral activity of dandelion extracts indicates that a component or components of these extracts possess anti-influenza virus properties. Mechanisms of reduction of viral growth in MDCK or A549 cells by dandelion involve inhibition on virus replication.

It would be a sublime irony if the world woke up to find that this pretty flowering 'weed' were to be immensely helpful against flu and respiratory diseases and all the rest :))

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 13 2021 23:44 utc | 351

... oops too much coffee.... correct link to dandelions here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22168277/

apologies etc, off to the orchard for therapy :/

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 13 2021 23:46 utc | 352

China enrages Western Neoliberals by tightening, improving its regulatory regime:

"Business media in the US and the UK are up in arms over the Chinese government’s recently unveiled plan to strengthen regulatory control on key strategic sectors of the economy, including technology, healthcare, food production and pharmaceuticals."

Hooray!! Business shouldn't be allowed to benefit at the expense of citizens. Seems that argument was made a long time ago at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Globally, Neoliberals must be rolled back then rolled up.

"On Wednesday, Xinhua [Link at original] published guidelines approved by the State Council (i.e. the cabinet) and the Central Committee of China’s ruling Communist Party On the Implementation of the Construction of a Government Under the Rule of Law (2021-2025).'

"The document, to be implemented by all regions and government departments, outlines a series of steps to 'dramatically' improve administration, clearly delineate administrative power, optimise state agency functions, speed up the construction of a 'service-oriented government, and 'continue to optimise a business environment governed by law.' The 'people-centered' approach is said to be guided by China’s socialist system and Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism With Chinese Characteristics for a New Era."

Here's the part their knickers are all in a twist about:

"It also pushes for the acceleration of 'the construction of credibility in government affairs,' including by creating and working to improve accountability 'for government dishonesty, increasing the punishment for dishonesty, and focusing on dishonest behaviours in areas such as debt financing, government procurement, bidding and investment promotion.'"

Gosh oh golly gee, we sure do need something like that on steroids here within the Outlaw US Empire!! The complaints by the usual suspects are shameful so used are they to bribing government to get what they want at the public's expense. Yet another facet in China's government's superiority to the West.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 14 2021 0:07 utc | 353

@Stonebird 318

Apparently the US is moving its troops from Afghanistan, Iraq to Jordan.

Thank you for the reply Stonebird.
Yes, later we learned that the troops from Afghanistan were removed, NOT from the rooftops by helicopter, but ‘at night.’
Says a lot about the war fighting of the empire’s military.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 14 2021 0:26 utc | 354

psychohistorian!! Do please give the essay here a read. It's by Peter Linebaugh, the author of The Many Headed Hydra and numerous other excellent works. It's long, so you'll want a refreshment to accompany your reading!

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 14 2021 1:30 utc | 355

Sakineh Bagoom #354

Says a lot about the war fighting of the empire’s military.

Perhaps the troops fulfill the same role abroad as the police do at home in the USA, to terrorise the populace while the looting proceeds apace. There seems to be a lot of evidence for this.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 14 2021 1:38 utc | 356

karlof1 #353

Gosh oh golly gee, we sure do need something like that on steroids here within the Outlaw US Empire!! The complaints by the usual suspects are shameful so used are they to bribing government to get what they want at the public's expense. Yet another facet in China's government's superiority to the West.

Hahahaha the hide of these commies to enforce a system where accountability and efficient redistribution of taxes and profits are applied to the economy AS A WHOLE that likely will result in a far larger China GDP than that in the oligarchic west. Just imagine if people were to discover that GDP (if you can trust that measure) were to demonstrate a far stronger economic throughput via a Chinese economy that was deliberate and meticulous in regulation! Watch for all the press saying that GDP was a bad measure, never was accurate, past its use-by-date, time to move along in the new bright i-economy of today, here - buy some bitcoin. etc, etc

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 14 2021 2:02 utc | 357

@ karlof1 | Aug 14 2021 1:30 utc | 355 with the interesting read at Counter Punch...thaks

Yes, it is quite the slog but a very well put together bit of historical perspective.

The description of the shrinking public Commons and growing private property fits with my understanding of that class birthing process in the West.

Other MoA barflies are encouraged to read the piece as well, except vk who will come back and say it is all wrong or whatever spins her keyboard for the day.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 14 2021 2:15 utc | 358

karlof1 #353

xiaokang society

Moderately prosperous society is a key word to understanding present-day #China. Egalitarian, culturally rich, more here in 5 minutes utube from CGTN.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 14 2021 3:12 utc | 359

Below is a link to a story about Ivermectin use in India that is not being reported in MSM

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 14 2021 4:18 utc | 360

Four in 10 Britons see China as a threat and just 15 per cent want the UK to force closer ties with growing authoritarian superpower amid confrontation over Hong Kong and Uighur ethnic cleansing

Majority of Canadians view China as the biggest threat to Canada

Oz
As our relationship China An all-time low hit, the new figure suggests that the majority of Aussies also view the country as such Security threat Rather than an economic partner

79 per cent of respondents believe China constitutes a serious or moderate threat to Canada

More than four in 10 Australians are worried China may attack Australia

90% of U.S. believes China is threat.
------------------
Even in the hitherto most benign member of five eyes
....

Chinese President Xi Jinping's push for a "loveable and respectable" image doesn't appear to be working, at least on Kiwis.

Just 31 percent of us considered China a friend in October 2020, when the survey was done - down from 40 percent in 2019; and 35 percent of us now consider the Middle Kingdom a threat, up a whopping 14 percent in one year.


tIP of an iceberg

Mind you, sinophobia is rising at exponential rate in five liars land, so the above data is already dated.

IOW
On average, more than 80% five liars are living in abject fear of China,
dreading a China attack no less.
Plus they loathe all Chinese cuz Uighur genocide, HK repression, TAM massacre and that gawd damned Chinese virus.

Here's a poser....

What do you think is the IQ of the five liars ?

a]
110 as advertised.

B]
<80

???

Posted by: denk | Aug 14 2021 4:21 utc | 361

additional comment for @338 where I observed:
"But look what has happened to ivermectin. Politics and Big Pharma have gotten in the way."

That is, the same will happen or is happening to other treatments not approved as money makers for Big Pharma.

India's Ivermectin Blackout

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html


News of India's defeat of the Delta variant should be common knowledge. It is just about as obvious as the nose on one's face. It is so clear when one looks at the graphs that no one can deny it.


(also, thx, uncle tungsten re:dandelions)
(also, just curious, is that an anagram?))

Posted by: librul | Aug 14 2021 13:14 utc | 362

just now spotted your post @360

Posted by: librul | Aug 14 2021 13:16 utc | 363

Thanks, uncle t. I followed your link @352 to the abstract.

The full paper is here, but I found it annoying as it didn't specify which part(s) of the plant
it used. It would have been easy for them to simply add the words "whole plant" if that is what
they intended.

https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-8-538


Dandelion, purchased from a medicine store, was dissolved in sterile H2O (100 mg/ml) at room temperature for 2 h and then extracted twice with water at 100°C for 1 h. The aqueous extracts were filtered through a 0.45 μm membrane. This aqueous dandelion extract lyophilized, and the resulting light yellow powder (17% w/w yield) was dissolved with cell culture medium when needed.

[lyophilized equals freeze-dried]

Posted by: librul | Aug 14 2021 13:31 utc | 364

"dandelion" is phonetic spelling of "löwenzahn", its German name (oddly enough!)
the plant does look "teethed"
https://www.fermedesaintemarthe.com/A-16596-pissenlit-sauvage-ab.aspx

another oddity, is French "manger les pissenlits par la racine" (= to eat dandelion by its roots) means to be dead... so better eat dandelion while you are alive!

Posted by: Mina | Aug 14 2021 13:33 utc | 365

Geez, psychohistorian. For any party I plan, I see I’m going to have to seat you at a separate table than vk.

;-)

Posted by: oglalla | Aug 14 2021 13:56 utc | 366

!!

"There she blows- she blows!- she blows!- right ahead!" was now the mast-head cry.

"Aye, aye!" cried Stubb, "I knew it- ye can't escape- blow on and split your spout, O whale! the mad fiend himself is after ye! blow your trump- blister your lungs!- Ahab will dam off your blood, as a miller shuts his watergate upon the stream!"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/aug/13/john-durham-probe-evidence-presented-grand-jury/


By Eric Tucker Friday, August 13, 2021

WASHINGTON — John Durham, the federal prosecutor tapped to investigate the origins of the Russia investigation, has been presenting evidence before a grand jury as part of his probe, a person familiar with the matter said Friday.

Posted by: librul | Aug 14 2021 14:09 utc | 367

Same as in the French Carribeans, vaccination roll out creates a higher wave than anything before it
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/14/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html
It preys on non-vaxxed, obviously, and likely in a way that would not have occurred if it has been left strolling into the unvaxxed population, where it would only affect the weakest.
In Europe, Belgium, Sweden and Czech republic have no 4th wave, after they had first waves big enough to affect most of the population. In the Netherlands, some 90% ppl would have antibodies according to the blood givers samples.

Posted by: Mina | Aug 14 2021 15:41 utc | 368

Israel starts to vaccinate the "at risk populations" who've received their 2nd Pfizer shot 5 months ago.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/covid-patients-transferred-to-hospitals-in-jerusalem-due-to-heavy-loads-1.10116848

Posted by: Mina | Aug 14 2021 16:34 utc | 369

@364 librul

Here in the US, I bought a Dandelion tea this morning containing half leaves and half root. It was the Traditional Medicinals brand, but there should be plenty of options out there that cover all the bases. And then got a call from my naturopathic friend who says dandelion was introduced into North America as a medicinal plant, and only later came to be a weed.

Wouldn't it be something if we discovered that we didn't have to destroy the modern world and only had to listen to folk wisdom for guidance?

Posted by: Grieved | Aug 14 2021 17:56 utc | 370

@364 librul - more...

That paper you cited, that also traces to Uncle tungsten's link @352, is an earlier paper from 2011. Somehow I have a later paper from some of the same authors published this year, in March 2021. So it's also been linked here I guess:

Common dandelion (Taraxacum officinale) efficiently blocks the interaction between ACE2 cell surface receptor and SARS-CoV-2 spike protein D614, mutants D614G, N501Y, K417N and E484K in vitro [March 2021]

The plant contains a wide array of phytochemicals including terpenes (sesquiterpene lactones such as taraxinic acid and triterpenes), phenolic compounds (phenolic acids, flavonoids, and coumarins) and also polysaccharides (14). The predominant phenolic compound was found to be chicoric acid (dicaffeoyltartaric acid). The other were mono-and dicaffeoylquinic acids, tartaric acid derivatives, flavone and flavonol glycosides. The roots, in addition to these compound classes, contain high amounts of inulin (15). Dosage forms include aqueous decoction and infusion, expressed juice of fresh plant, hydroalcoholic tincture as well as coated tablets from dried extracts applied as monopreparations (16) but also integral components of pharmaceutical remedies. Our research was conducted using water-based extracts from plant leaves. We found that leaf extracts efficiently blocked spike protein or its mutant forms to the ACE2 receptor, used in either pre-or post-incubation, and that high molecular weight compounds account for this effect. A plant from the same tribe (Cichorium intybus) could exert similar effects but with less potency. Infection of A549-hACE2-TMPRSS2 human lung cells using SARS-CoV-2 pseudotyped lentivirus was efficiently prevented by the extract.

I think you previously made the point that it was the leaves not the root they tested - was that you or someone else?

A common problem I'm finding is that we now have so much medical science in support of solutions to this pandemic, that we're bookmarking and downloading, that it can be tricky to find the right collateral in the heat of discussion.

Posted by: Grieved | Aug 14 2021 18:10 utc | 371

@360 psychohistorian and @362 librul et al.

Thanks for that link. I hadn't realized that it was the Delta variant that India has crushed using ivermectin. That news should indeed be rung from the bell towers.

Now it becomes clear that it was the outbreak of Delta that presented such a deadly problem for India, a problem that ivermectin solved decisively. Ivermectin where used in India ended the threat from the Delta variant.

I personally had not fully grasped that point - I'm very grateful for the knowledge.

That link again:
India's Ivermectin Blackout - Ivermectin Wins in India [August 9, 2021]

There is a blackout on any conversation about how Ivermectin beat COVID-19 in India. When I discussed the dire straits that India found itself in early this year with 414,000 cases per day, and over 4,000 deaths per day, and how that evaporated within five weeks of the addition of Ivermectin, I am often asked, "But why is there no mention of that in the news?"

Yes, exactly. Ask yourself why India’s success against the Delta variant with Ivermectin is such a closely guarded secret by the NIH and CDC. Second, ask yourself why no major media outlets reported this fact, but instead, tried to confuse you with false information by saying the deaths in India are 10 times greater than official reports.

The report is filled with valuable links to sources showing the actual data behind this story, and including the meta analyses of similar such stories from scientists and doctors around the world. It also illustrates the very blatant censorship of these stories, including at the level of senior editors at Wikipedia.

It's a very readable piece of journalism for the lay reader that I highly recommend.

Posted by: Grieved | Aug 14 2021 18:37 utc | 372

This is really funny: The vaccine hesitant are the least AND the most educated

the association between hesitancy and education level follows a U-shaped curve with the highest hesitancy among those least and most educated. People with a master’s degree had the least hesitancy, and the highest hesitancy was among those holding a Ph.D.

The whole red-state meme was bullshit to start with - the largest single group of vaccine hesitant are African-Americans.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 14 2021 19:23 utc | 373

I'd like to write that what's reported in the linked news item is an extremely rare occurrence, but it's not. The data provided says it's the 240th such incident generating 95 fatalities. PTSD can be foisted onto people in very unsuspecting ways; and for those who where the unfortunate witnesses, their chances of overcoming it won't be easy.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 14 2021 21:40 utc | 374

9 out of 10 people in five liars don't give a shit about China or Russia as they are too worried about their own gubment
and can't pay rent.

Posted by: ld | Aug 14 2021 22:16 utc | 375

The Canadian border opens to vaccinated US visitors. Bill and Hillary pop over to Quebec.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8110474/clintons-quebec-vacation-august-2021/

“Who paid for that mansion? A Senator or the Haitian people?”
“Valued at 3.4 million, a Haitian senator’s Montreal villa has become a potent emblem of the growing gap between Haiti’s impoverished citizens and its wealthy political elite.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/10/world/canada/Haiti-Canada-Celestin-corruption.html

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 14 2021 22:46 utc | 376

If you’d like to know more about the Haiti-Quebec relationship, there is a National Film Board of Canada sponsored film from 1985: Haiti (Quebec). An hour long, in French.

https://www.nfb.ca/film/haiti_quebec/

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 14 2021 23:09 utc | 377

denk 361

I know this is tough.

Here’s the answer….
None of the above,

Credits where credit is due.
Whites are HIQ.

buT THIS is NUthin to do with IQ…there’s an EQ deficit.

I Don’t Always Believe CIA Narratives. But When I Do, I Believe Them About China.

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/07/22/i-dont-always-believe-cia-narratives-but-when-i-do-i-believe-them-about-china/

PS
HIQ + LEQ spell danger.

Posted by: denk | Aug 15 2021 1:35 utc | 378

ld | 375

May be not, you belongs to the 1% thinking yank as opposed to the 98%
dumbed down gringos.

Exhibit A

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/13603-pew-poll-90-of-us-believes-china-is-threat/

That was more than one yr ago, things are changing fast, emotion are running high, every other day Chinese get bashed up somewhere in five liars land.

Posted by: denk | Aug 15 2021 1:47 utc | 379

@ denk | Aug 15 2021 1:47 utc | 379

Yeah, the boneheads who run my university are all wondering why international admissions are down. Seems like that lucrative East Asian market has disappeared. Where oh where did it go? . . .

Posted by: corvo | Aug 15 2021 2:01 utc | 380

corvo 380

May be we should keep it that way.

East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet

Posted by: denk | Aug 15 2021 2:31 utc | 381

@ denk | Aug 15 2021 2:31 utc | 381:

Well, it's certainly better for them now if they avoid the USA. The short-term consequence is that all those Chinese STEM students -- who tend to be the ones who can't get into Chinese institutions! -- will need to go elsewhere, since there's no room for them in Chinese universities. But if China can build a hospital in a week, maybe it can build a few new universities in time for the start of fall semester?

Posted by: corvo | Aug 15 2021 2:34 utc | 382

corvo 382

They will find a way.
China has been growing stronger by the day inspite of decades of FUKUS imposed
GLOBAL CHINESE EXCLUSION ACT.


Posted by: denk | Aug 15 2021 2:47 utc | 383

Below is a posting from Xinhuanet describing the dance that China is doing with global private finance...it makes me nervous but I think the timing is perfect....enough of a hook to keep them from blowing up the world but not enough to give them any chance of control....time will tell

"
BEIJING, Aug. 13 (Xinhua) -- Foreign-invested financial institutions are now racing to enter China's securities sectors as the country continues pushing ahead with the opening of the domestic capital market.

J.P. Morgan recently announced on its website that the China Securities Regulatory Commission (CSRC) has approved the registration of J.P. Morgan International Finance Limited taking 100 percent ownership of J.P. Morgan Securities (China) Company Limited, making it the first foreign firm to fully own a securities venture in China.

Last year, the investment bank giant had already received approval from the CSRC to increase its current stake in J.P. Morgan Futures Company Limited to 100 percent from 49 percent, making the bank the first foreign firm to fully own a futures venture in China.

"China represents one of the largest opportunities in the world for many of our clients and for JPMorgan," said Jamie Dimon, Chairman and CEO of JPMorgan Chase. "Our scale and global capabilities give us a unique ability to help Chinese companies grow internationally and also support global investors as they expand into China's maturing capital markets."

According to a statement from the CSRC, the regulator has also accepted the application of Standard Chartered Hong Kong for a license to set up a brokerage in the Chinese mainland.

The company said that thanks to the rapid recovery of the Chinese economy, its operating income in China rose by 20 percent year on year in the first half of 2021, while its pre-tax profit increased significantly.

Last Friday, the CSRC gave the nod to FIL Asia Holdings Pte. Limited to set up a fund management firm wholly owned by overseas investors, while Citibank (China) Co., Ltd. has also obtained a business license to provide securities investment fund custody services for publicly-offered funds and private equity funds in China.

These developments not only highlight the enthusiasm of foreign financial institutions for operating in China's financial market, but also reflect Chinese regulators' resolve to advance financial opening-up.

In recent years, more than 100 foreign-invested banks and insurance, securities, payment and clearing institutions have been approved and set up. They have been actively expanding the scope of financial businesses particularly after the Chinese government scrapped foreign ownership limits on securities firms and mutual funds in 2020.

The global financial market has gradually entered the stage of recovery and expansion, which will drive international capital to emerging economies, and China is the preferred investment destination for the investors, said Xie Yaxuan, an analyst with China Merchants Securities.

HuaAn Funds attributed the attractiveness of Chinese financial assets to the country's comparative advantages in areas including economic growth momentum, reserve policy space and appealing A-share market.

In the first half of this year, net inflows of funds through "northbound trading," or money invested from Hong Kong into the Chinese mainland through the stock connect programs, surged 89 percent year on year to 223.6 billion yuan (about 34.51 billion U.S. dollars).

During the same period, overseas investors have increased their holdings of yuan-denominated bonds by over 450 billion yuan, up 40 percent year on year.

Yet there are also many challenges, according to a State Council executive meeting in July. The meeting said China will continue advancing opening-up in an orderly way, and fully leverage both the domestic and international markets and resources so that the country remains a popular destination for foreign investment.

The meeting stressed that the market access threshold of foreign-invested financial institutions such as banks and insurance companies will be refined, rules concerning cross-border transactions between parent and subsidiary firms of financial institutions will be improved, and channels and methods for foreign capital to participate in the domestic financial market will be optimized.
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 15 2021 4:25 utc | 384

@384 psychohistorian

I think your take is correct. We still see the CPC in control of the situation - just as Deng was when the western world thought China was evolving into westernization and unbridled "capitalism". But it was always under the control of the government and its guiding principles.

Xi has said that China will go beyond simply being a moderately prosperous country and will strive mightily to create a perfected socialist society. I think we know that we don't have to dig any deeper - there is no deeper - and we can simply accept this as the plain, unvarnished reality of China's goal.

~~

You often speak of mixed economy. I guess the world will see for the first time how much and how little of Wall Street greed can be accommodated within such a society.

CPC is in control, I'm convinced of that. Wall Street - even the infamous Rothschild agent, Morgan - has a far narrower view than the CPC does. I suspect the time will come that we can see a greater force on this planet than the private finance that you refer to.

Or else, that force will lose to the Red Shield, and we will know that there is only one solution left before total oblivion. And I think we're a long way from even thinking such a possibility. Like you, I think the old game is already lost, but greed has blinded its sense of survival to this knowledge.

The future, be it tens of years or hundreds of years from now, holds an ultimate battle between that private theft of capital and that public distribution of capital. I would love to be able to watch it, but I think it will be after my time here, so it must be enough to send up quiet little prayers for victory of the public side.

Posted by: Grieved | Aug 15 2021 4:57 utc | 385

Good article.
https://www.rt.com/news/531668-covid-19-variants-vaccines/
As expected, we are now locked in a vicious circle because of irresponsible policies and wishful thinking at the very top of our governments.

Posted by: Mina | Aug 15 2021 9:08 utc | 386

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