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August 10, 2021
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There was so much discussion about the Chinese think tank report and related article I linked @13 that I decided to write an article around that excellent piece of work and published it here.
The Western powers won this battle, and the USSR had to adopt the doctrine of “Socialism in One Country” by 1926-1928. By the time of the creation of the first effective Five-Year Plan (1928-1933), the USSR had already given up of the idea of receiving from the West the technology they needed to achieve socialism; in fact, the situation was so tense that the first Five-Year Plan planned for a war to happen between them and the capitalist powers somewhere during its final years (i.e. 1931-1933). Said war would happen only in 1941.
The consequence was a planned, command economy. Somehow, the Soviets, learned how to make steel, cement, tanks, aircraft, artillery, tractors, milking machines, grain drills, combines, etc. By the skin of their teeth, the Soviets managed to field sufficient aircraft, armour, artillery, small arms, railway stock, food, etc. to fight the NAZIs and win.
The current situation differs from that 100 years ago in that China is again the world’s largest economy, and Russia and China are in a defacto alliance. The enmity of the western/NATO powers remains the same as back then, with one important difference, they are all net energy importers.
This determines the outcome…
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 11 2021 0:56 utc | 102
@ David F | Aug 11 2021 0:34 utc | 98 who wrote
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My stance is Idon’t know if it’s safe or necessary, and given the industries history of dishonesty, I prefer to refrain.
I don’t feel particularly threatened by covid and being a healthy middle aged approaching old aged man I think I would survive it. Might be a really bad cold, but I don’t think it would even keep me down long. And if I’m wrong and die from it, so be it.
I think groupthink has set in and I may find myself ostracized for being my own man. Again, so be it. So called society is over rated anyway.
I don’t necessarily broadcast my opinions about it, so maybe I can skate along unnoticed.
I guess I’ll find out who’s right eventually.
”
You are not alone and summarize the situation well. I am over 70 and chose to restrict and manage/mask my interactions with others to minimize exposure and am taking Ivermectin as prophylaxis so feel guardedly optimistic about my chances if a real problem evolves with Covid.
I can only hope that humanity learns the truth about this health care shit show but the curtain has not been ripped down yet. The numbers of Covid cases in the US is increasing and I expect medical facilities to become overwhelmed if another variant with the spread factor of the Delta variant but more fatal to those with certain risk factors.
I agree with other commenters that are wondering what 9/11 will bring this year and certainly September has a financial crash history so we will see….will the US be out of Afghanistan and who will they be invading?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 11 2021 0:57 utc | 103
Hmm…that posted (@105).
Maybe posting a link to The Saker
is verboten.
The Saker quoted b of Moon of Alabama yesterday.
Posted by: librul | Aug 11 2021 1:11 utc | 105
@ Posted by: Robert Macaire | Aug 10 2021 23:28 utc | 92
Yes, that’s a true story. The only complaint of the Bolsheviks was that there wasn’t more of these partnerships because the capitalist world was hostile. They still were very small – albeit important – contributions to the Soviet economy.
There were many others. There was the famous case of John Calder, who had built the Ford factories in the United States, serving as chief construction engineer of the Stalingrad tractor factory. Another very famous case was Col. Hugh L. Cooper, who was all but in name chief engineer of the Dnieprostroi project. In the agriculture field, the legendary agriculturist Thomas D. Campbell served as adviser for the Soviet government on the formation and viability of the Sovkhozy.
One of the few concessions that got out of the paper was run by an American engineer member of the IWW named Ware. He operated a joint company for the development of agriculture in Siberia, on the molds of large-scale agriculture that already existed in the North Caucasus. His company participated with 200,000 roubles, while the Soviet trust participated with 210,000 roubles. Again, those kind of projects (the concessions, not the advisers mentioned above, who participated in the large-scale Union-backed infrastructure projects) were kinda common, but had no significant impact on the Soviet economy.
The crisis of 1929 also softened the American capitalists. The Soviets were able to buy them on the cheap, so to speak.
Jen @Aug10 23:49 #94
Your choice is similar to mine. I got J&J because I wanted to avoid the mRNA.
Even so, in July I got sick. I’m pretty sure that it was the Delta variant.
I had made the mistake of walking thru NYC’s Little Italy during the Worldcup football celebrations without a mask (government officials were saying that vaccinated people didn’t need a mask). The young-ish crowd was largely unmasked as well. Half-way thru, I realized that I shouldn’t be doing that and turned as soon as I could. But it was too late.
The next morning I was sick. I think the J&J shot had primed my body so that it starting fighting the virus much sooner than if I had not been “vaccinated”. Although the virus can “break through” (and the Delta variant does that much more readily), judging from my experience there is much less chance for “asymptomatic transmission” (passing it on before you know you’re sick).
And despite getting sick, I didn’t worry about getting Covid-19 (the virus complication that can be life threatening): partly because I was “vaccinated”, partly because I’m in good health, and partly because I’ve been taking vitamin-D.
Despite these good things, my illness was over a week long and the symptoms were not pleasant: night sweats with accompanying great thirst; fatigue that is more debilitating than I realized at the time judging simply by my lowered productivity; a cough (but it wasn’t a dry cough, it produced phlegm – does that mean I was less contagious? idk). Also: I didn’t lose my sense of smell but it seems to have been impaired somewhat.
!!
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 11 2021 1:40 utc | 107
Psychohistorian,
Take a lot of Vitamin D, and I believe you will be safe.
Posted by: lysias | Aug 11 2021 1:43 utc | 108
Jen @ 64, thanks. 😺 I’ll see if I can put something together for the group. But it still means work for B to edit etc.
Posted by: Gordog | Aug 11 2021 1:44 utc | 109
What is the problem with your tooth? What symptoms do you have and what did the dentist diagnose?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 11 2021 1:46 utc | 110
Postmodern warrior:
Suspected anti-vax nurse replaced Covid-19 jabs with saline, affecting thousands in Germany, local authorities reveal
–//–
The march goes on, inexorably:
Taliban seizes 8th provincial capital amid massive offensive as Biden calls on Afghans to ‘fight for themselves’
If the rumors are true, then the Taliban are the people’s army in Afghanistan. As such, they’re invincible. It would take the destruction of Afghanistan itself to stop them.
–//–
Let the 2nd Cold War begin:
Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos & Michael Bloomberg make Greenland trend in US again as they seek to mine it for electric car materials
@Posted by: lysias | Aug 11 2021 1:43 utc | 109
“Take a lot of Vitamin D, and I believe you will be safe.”
Its summer time, half an hour in the sun should provide all the vitamin D you need produced by your own body – a bit longer if you have darker skin. In winter, take the tablets. After reading about the vaccine breakthrough cases (am double vaxxed with Pfizer) I am making sure I get enough D, plus Zinc and selenium (the latter also good for my prostate).
Posted by: Roger | Aug 11 2021 2:11 utc | 112
Karlof, thanks for your article. You’ve got a lot of interesting stuff on your website! Will have to spend some time digging around there! 😺
Posted by: Gordog | Aug 11 2021 2:23 utc | 113
Posted by: K | Aug 10 2021 23:09 utc | 88
I’m in Sydney in a lockdown LGA and I have to agree with your assessment. My main concern is not with vaccines as such, only with vaccines for which an ’emergency override’ has allowed use without due testing for counter-indications. This goes double for mRNA technology which interferes with the cell rather than stimulates an immune response in the traditional vaccine manner (if I have this correct). Now this interference may be temporary, mild, low-level, etc but it is alarming that we have no idea what the medium-to-long term effects of such novel technology might be. So my issue is that I have not consented to be a test-subject in a Big Pharma trial. If I suffer from side-effects there is no recourse because these corporations have been given immunity from legal action. The whole thing reminds me of Thalidomide and we know how that turned out.
Now, this doesn’t make me an anti-vaxxer but it is very alarming that there is no reporting or debate around this. In fact, there is active censorship at both the governmental level and the community level. I will get vaccinated if there is full disclosure as there is whenever I obtain medications (often a lengthy folded document listing anything and everything to be on the look-out for). Or am I supposed to put out one arm for the jab and roll the dice with the other?
Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 11 2021 2:34 utc | 114
re: afghanistan
Recent Taliban movement in the North shifts the focus to Pakistan land border. Quick look at map (e.g. [southfront]) shows this is npw a realistic / likely outcome. Capture of Mazar Sharif and eventually Herat means Pakistan is the land route into Afghan govt territory, for big stuff anyway.
Pak might be better off keeping Afghan govt alive so they can continue to squeeze concessions, block rival lines of connectivity that bypass them, if that is an option. E.g. Turkmenistan-Pakistan pipeline route marked on that map, vs the north-south route bypassing Pak. China probably doesn’t care too much either way, but might want the east-west route bypassing the various other ‘stans north of Afgh.
Posted by: ptb | Aug 11 2021 2:42 utc | 115
B — get well. See a doctor,about your stomach, do not self medicate. Get well. We need you.
Posted by: Joseph A Brady | Aug 11 2021 2:44 utc | 116
@Deltaeus #83
My objections to “mainstream climate science” has been consistent for 20 years:
1) Climate is changing, but it has always been changing. Roman warm period, Medieval warm period, Little Ice Age ending in 1750 – these are all in recent recorded history.
2) CO2 is the cause. Explain above first.
3) Whatever the cause, where will we wind up? Mainstream climate science says 1.5 degrees is doom – but RWP and MWP were comparable or warmer. Shouldn’t we all already be dead if that level of temperature is so terrible?
That’s not even getting into the truly horrific idea of slapping half-assed economic models on top of quarter-assed climate models.
4) Let’s say the cause is legit and the projections are legit – they aren’t but let’s just say so for argument’s sake. The solution proposed will not, by their own admission, change the trajectory of temperature increases in our lifetimes for sure. Maybe, to an infinitesimal degree, our children’s children.
When I see a supposed problem which isn’t clearly a problem, a projection which is consistently wrong and a solution which doesn’t solve the problem – to me, it means nothing should be done. You can’t define the problem, you can’t measure the problem and you couldn’t fix it even if the other 2 magically were solved.
This has nothing to do with deus-ex-machina and everything to do with calling bullshit on bullshitters.
Posted by: c1ue | Aug 11 2021 2:46 utc | 117
Per/Norway #36
Ditto. LMAO. The hypnotised ones are sure behaving like born again Christians here in the bunya nut republic. Many are now in deep fear of ling covid to which I reassure them that they are better off than long Pfizer or moderna especially if they ate of child bearing age. That usually ends the drivel spouting flow.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 11 2021 3:00 utc | 118
Get well soon b.
When I was young, for toothache, my grandma used to rub her fingers on some opium then rub her fingers on the gums. Worked like a charm.— Oops, I guess you are not supposed to talk about stuff like that, are you.
Anyway, as always, you are appreciated. I particularly applaud you for having your views solidified (hopefully your stomach will do the same/snark) after much goading, re the ‘war on Iran.’
Having gone from
The U.S. has dragged its feet over the renewal of the nuclear deal with Iran. Removing the troops from Iraq and Syria moves them out of the target area in the case of an eventual war on Iran.
To
But there is no global consensus to sanction Iran. Russia and China will resist any pressure to support them and Iran will have no reason to change its ways. Nor is there a military option. Iran has serious weapons that can reach any corner in the Middle East.
All in just a matter of couple of weeks.
Oh, and this site must be heavily monitored. I mentioned it (the war games) here, and a couple of days later, it appears on multiple sites. Here is the Strategic Culture picking it up.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/08/08/can-they-learn-another-us-wargame-defeat/
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 11 2021 3:06 utc | 119
Below is a Covid/cyber war story from Xinhuanet
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LONDON, Aug. 10 (Xinhua) — U.S. spooks are alleged to have hacked Chinese databases as part of Washington’s “increasingly desperate” bid to pin the blame for the outbreak of the global coronavirus pandemic on Beijing, a Morning Star report said on Sunday.
The report quoted CNN as saying that U.S. intelligence agencies are digging through a “treasure trove” of genetic data, which contains genetic blueprints drawn from virus samples studied at a lab in Wuhan, China.
According to CNN, it is unclear how the intelligence services accessed the information, which is typically held on computers connected to cloud-based servers, “leaving open the possibility they were hacked.”
CNN said on Friday that the ongoing U.S. intelligence investigations have yet to provide details or proof for the so-called “lab leak theory.”
”
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 11 2021 3:34 utc | 120
$26.5 million a pop. Makes the yankistan flying pig look cheap.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/army-boxer-light-armoured-vehicle-delays-turret/100343228
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 11 2021 3:57 utc | 121
@c1ue 118
Yes, climate has always been changing and the mechanisms are well known by science. The main causes are:
– Changes in the Earth’s orbit around the sun to slightly more and slightly less elliptical, plus changes to its tilt relative to the sun and a number of other changes – collectively known as Milankovitch cycles (wikipedia is good at explaining these). These tend to occur in cycles from 25,000 years to 400,000 years depending on the specific phenomena. They tend to change the amount of radiation from the Sun that reaches the Earth.
– Increases and decreases in solar energy, the sun cycles are on average about 11 years long. These changes are relatively small, with now and again Grand Minimums and Maximums.
– Volcanoes, really big ones can literally blot out the Sun across the globe and cause significant drops in temperatures over a period of years.
– Changes to ocean currents can significantly affect regional climates, and in some cases even the global climate.
– Atmospheric greenhouse gas composition, which can be changed through natural processes (outgassing from the Earth, rock weathering etc.) and human processes (burning fossil fuels, fugitive methane emissions, land use changes)
Sometimes some of these combine together to cause significant regional or global changes:
– Roman Warm Period: There was a very low level of volcanic activity and a very stable level of solar activity, causes not as fully tied down for the other periods below.
– Medieval Warm Period may have been more regional than global, caused by higher than normal solar output combined with less volcanic activity and changes in currents that brought more warmer water to the surface in the North Atlantic.
– The Little Ice Age is currently seen as being caused by the combination of a Grand Solar Minimum and the impacts of a number of volcanic eruptions. There is also work that points to the eradication of 10s of millions of indigenous peoples in the Americas leading to a reforestation that drew down atmospheric CO2 levels (i.e. the Little Ice Age was partially human produced). If a Grand Solar Minimum happened today it would only reduce warming slightly as it would offset about 1/6th of the warming provided by the anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions already in place.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/41678664.pdf?refreqid=excelsior%3Af47bd6775fd6e1e15aad6d2336f7fb62
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16892-natural-mechanism-for-medieval-warming-discovered/
https://climate.nasa.gov/blog/2953/there-is-no-impending-mini-ice-age/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379118307261
So the climate does vary all the time, but at some times a large buildup/reduction in greenhouse gases can overwhelm all other factors. A possible case is that of the Deccan Traps volcanic outgassing of CO2 66 million years ago that raised global temperatures by 3 degrees and more.. That was natural climate change. The current human produced CO2 (and other greenhouse gas) emissions are happening on a much faster rate than that of the Deccan Traps episode, and will lead to the same outcome if not greatly reduced.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210329153346.htm
https://www.pnas.org/content/115/33/8252
The theory of Snowball Earth is fascinating in showing how once pushed in the wrong direction the Earth System can runaway with feedbacks towards a very extreme outcome.
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/11/e1600983
Quite an entertaining book about the scientist who came up with the theory of Snowball Earth: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XUDG8K?pf_rd_r=KTQWMKP7M6TMCWY63FN6&pf_rd_p=6fc81c8c-2a38-41c6-a68a-f78c79e7253f&pd_rd_r=0a67f6b0-ab81-489b-a97a-7e9e5697164f&pd_rd_w=5NuMF&pd_rd_wg=mjWUA&ref_=pd_gw_unk
Posted by: Roger | Aug 11 2021 4:03 utc | 122
@ Deltaeus | Aug 10 2021 22:19 utc | 83
It’s quite simple; nothing is inevitable.
Posted by: Justin | Aug 11 2021 4:09 utc | 123
@ David F | Aug 11 2021 0:34 utc | 98… thanks and thanks for your candid comment… i relate well to what you say and emphasize with your situation..
@ Patroklos | Aug 11 2021 2:34 utc | 115… i relate to what you say as well.. thanks for drawing my attention to @ K | Aug 10 2021 23:09 utc | 88… many fine comments in both your poss..
Posted by: james | Aug 11 2021 4:21 utc | 124
posts… missing the t! still posting and previewing after.. oh well…
Posted by: james | Aug 11 2021 4:21 utc | 125
@ the nature of money
Money is a concept. Anything can be used as a token to exchange goods and services.
If we agree that your skills and your ideas are your natural or divine property, then fiat money predicated on debt that is imposed unilaterally by law presents some problems.
1 – Exchanging labour for money exchanges something you own outright for something you do not own and do not control the value of. The exchange does not represent equal value. You cannot physically own the note you receive in exchange for your effort and you cannot control the purchasing value of same.
2 – In a debt based system, the money you exchange for your effort is immediately, progressively and constantly devalued. This precludes savings and, eventually, the accumulation of wealth for the many.
3 – Therefore the system, eventually, precludes the right to private property through perpetual devaluation, fees, licenses, taxes and excise.
Money based on gold and silver too were prerogatives of state. The difference being that in time of crisis when the state needed to debase the currency, the worst that could happen is that holders of coin at least could hold on to the value of the content of the gold and silver coinage; melt value at the very least.
Too, in order to expand the monetary base in a gold standard, the authority needs to employ human and capital resources in order to prospect, mine, transport, refine and distribute the ore thereby, at least partially, feeding the economy.
Also interesting is that gold and silver were typically used by different states to mint coins that resembled the coins of whatever empire held sway at the time of minting. This is the same concept of “Original or Sovereign or Genuine Fakes” employed by José Beraha Zdravko in the 50s when he did exactly that in minting British Sovereigns. Gold and silver provide base value. The value of a minted gold/silver token however is augmented by the power and prestige of whatever empire is in charge. Whatever the machinations of state therefore, gold and silver enabled individuals to at least hold on to the value of the metal that in a worst case scenario could be melted and traded.
Not so with fiat money and the credit markets that derive from it.
Posted by: guidoamm | Aug 11 2021 4:41 utc | 126
@Tom_Q_Collins
I’m not here to encourage or discourage people from getting vaccinated
What are you here for?
Posted by: jaime | Aug 11 2021 4:43 utc | 127
jen 94 on j and j, not a rumour..the Baltimore plant screwed 15 Mo doses (on purpose?)
Posted by: Mina | Aug 11 2021 4:54 utc | 128
@Deltaeus | Aug 10 2021 22:19 utc | 83
I wonder if this “appeal to an external mechanism of global catastrophe” is a new argument category?
It is old as sin. A few hundred years ago your priest would tell you that you had to buy his letter of indulgence (and incidentally make him wealthy and powerful) or you would end up in Hell.
This is precisely what the modern ‘priests’ are doing with “climate change” and “covid”.
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 11 2021 5:34 utc | 129
Sushi @96 re Canada apparently “tasked with responsibility for communications intercepts of all nations south of Mexico.”
Thanks for your reply. Your comment reminded me that it was reported in 2013 that Canada had extensively spied on Brazil and its energy industry.
This article suggests Canada, “with cyber specialists inside the American NSA”, had hacked into Brazil’s Ministry of Mining and Energy:
“They could map the networks, the email path … the phone calls, who called who, who was in touch with whom.
“I felt myself as if I was just transported to the future … looking at the power, the intelligence of the tools.”
It also suggests Canada’s espionage could have been to “give some countries a commercial advantage on others”, “to get a leg up on competing for oil and gas bids.”
The commercial espionage part certainly reinforces the view of the AngloAmerican empire as a crime organization, with its Five Eyes lieutenants. So, who knows, maybe Canada is the “capo” for that neighbourhood …
Posted by: Canadian Cents | Aug 11 2021 6:00 utc | 130
This other article suggests that it was a task handed down by the NSA, and lends credence to your suggestion.
“It would fit in with the modus operandi of the Five Eyes partnership that an intelligence task like this, which would include intelligence collected by one partner, might actually be handed over to another partner for processing and work.”
That was in 2012-2013. Then, shortly after, in 2014-2015-2016 Rouseff and Lula were regime-changed via “Operation Car Wash”.
Our Canadian government and establishment media are constantly accusing other countries of hacking, industrial espionage, foreign meddling, human rights abuses – even genocide. The hyprocrisy is blatant, and like the US, our establishment projects our country’s own heinous actions onto others.
A Canadian, Michael Spavor, was just found guilty of spying in China. Our establishment news media always treats that as an impossibility, but, given Canada’s extensive spying described above, is it really so implausible?
Unmarked graves are being discovered by the hundreds at “residential schools” (re-education camps) across Canada (i.e. cultural genocide, and actual genocide), we participated in military occupation in Afghanistan, in bombing and regime change in Libya and Syria, in regime change efforts in Venezuela, in cyber-attacks and hacking of a democratically-elected government in Brazil, in support of neo-nazis in Ukraine, in military provocation on Russia’s doorstep – but our politicians and news media call for a boycott of the Beijing Olympics …
Posted by: Canadian Cents | Aug 11 2021 6:01 utc | 131
Can anyone please provide a link to an independent credible assessment of the J&J vaccine? Pro’s and con’s.
Posted by: Down South | Aug 11 2021 7:30 utc | 132
re Patroklos | Aug 11 2021 2:34 utc | 115 and Down South | Aug 11 2021 7:30 utc | 131
This paper explains how the mRNA injections work: The Pfizer mRNA vaccine: pharmacokinetics and toxicity
From the Mayo Clinic, Dr. Ryan Cole, a board certified pathologist with a PhD in immunology and virology, talks about the toxicity of the mRNA “vaccines”
Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 11 2021 7:39 utc | 133
Re my post @132, Dr. Cole points out that at the time of his talk (end of July 2021), there had been more than 11,000 deaths associated with the COVID mRNA injections. Yet there had been a total of 1 autopsy performed out of those 11,000 deaths.
No one is looking and no one is reporting.
Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 11 2021 7:47 utc | 134
I should have specified that those were the number of deaths in the US.
Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 11 2021 7:48 utc | 135
how long will it takes for the msm to admit that it is criminal to let vaccinated healthy ppl travel to places were ppl are unvaccinated? look at the french carribeans now…
Posted by: Mina | Aug 11 2021 8:06 utc | 136
down south
best is to compare real stats
check
south africa..france…iceland..netherlands
Posted by: mina | Aug 11 2021 8:08 utc | 137
@ SARS-Cov2 / Covid19
More questions then answers:
The FDA has not yet granted a license for the vaccines because, ostensibly, they have yet to complete their due diligence.
This is a farce. If the FDA had granted EUA for use in a limited number of patients in a limited geographic area, one would understand their desire to complete their investigation. But Covid19 vaccines have been administered to hundreds of millions individuals globally. If the FDA should find that the vaccines should not be awarded a license, what then?
It would appear the FDA is playing the “Plausible Deniability” card?
In light of the infection, replication and mortality rates on all cruise ships AND war ships, AND in light of the fact that Covd19 was detected in human tissue samples dating to at least November 2019 and possibly earlier (ergo; a solid 3 months prior to all NPI mandates), the infection, replication and mortality rates that are bandied about by the authorities do not stack up. If what we are told is true, then, by now, we should all have perished.
Posted by: guidoamm | Aug 11 2021 9:02 utc | 138
Am I banned? I don’t appear to be able to post.
Posted by: librul | Aug 11 2021 1:10 utc | 105
Me too librul, I have attempted to post to thank vk @ 65 for the post at The Week in Review @ MoA. Each and every post has been deleted. It looks like the problem is any link with press tv dot com?
Perhaps it is some algorithm ?
Has this site become colonised ?
Posted by: Paul | Aug 11 2021 9:33 utc | 139
@Jen, 94
You are going to be a participant in a clinical trial so it is advisable to read up on risks.
The pathological bleeding and blood clotting developing after injection are caused by the spike protein in the experimental injections, not a poorly administered injection. The spike protein does not remain at the injection site but travels round the body invading not only organs but the cell linings of blood vessels. This is what Dr Bridle discovered through a Freedom of Information request
https://thewhiterose.uk/dr-byram-bridle-professor-of-viral-immunology-the-spike-protein-in-the-covid-vaccines-is-a-very-dangerous-toxin/
Dr Ryan Cole, a pathologist, gives a presentation on what he is seeing https://www.brighteon.com/ffaf92a3-7317-4cdc-bead-121a7ed5cf36
Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7645850/
Dr Dan Stock, family doctor, giving a useful summary of Antibody Dependent Enhancement to school board https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jx8pBjvpYUS1/
Posted by: cirsium | Aug 11 2021 9:34 utc | 140
Down South @131 asks:
Can anyone please provide a link to an independent credible assessment of the J&J vaccine? Pro’s and con’s.
I don’t think the info you want is available but I will pass on my personal experience. I am in my mid- 70’s with some co-morbidities but general good health. I took the J&J when it was first available in Texas only because I wanted to travel to Switzerland to see my children and grandchildren one more time. Within 6 weeks of the jab I suffered the first stroke of my life
and it took me a month to recover from a minor event it could have been worse. I have now been on Lake Geneva a week with my grandchildren. Everyone has to decide for themselves but I will not be taking any more jabs of any type for any reason related to the scam called Covid!
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Aug 11 2021 9:35 utc | 141
A friend in Moscow tells me that most of the people she knows are not taking the jab, some are taking the small corruption route by paying a fee to the nurse and getting the stuff dumped to the garbage and the happy patient his certificate so as to bypass the many control booths implemented, going to “the closet” that’s how she described the deal. She is planning to get the not so well known Covivac, advised by some health workers friends, but it seems the supply is limited. I am not getting any of the stuff offered in Europe, I was trying to get a visa and go to Moscow to get the SputnikV but borders are closed and no visas are issued except for close relatives, so for the time being it is just wait. But as of late not even the SputnikV or the non RNA vaccines inspire me a lot of confidence. Fortunately I cook live food everyday -that is to say non processed or frozen food-, there is lots of sunshine here -now even more than needed, its really hot- and my survival plan is to eat healthy, do some physical exercise -not as much as I’d like but that will change once the tourist season is over in about a couple of weeks- and hope that my body will fight it hard if the bug comes to visit. I do not take ANY medication, at all, vitamins with all the fresh fruit I eat everyday, plus lots of veggies and some fresh fish, no meat at all during summer, winter time some Spanish jamón. Hoping for the best, and letting nature do its thing, not much else I can do.
Posted by: Paco | Aug 11 2021 9:38 utc | 142
Jen @ 94: “I understand that Sputnik V is being used in San Marino (tiny country enclosed in Italy), Hungary, Serbia and Argentina.”
Thanks for sharing this – very interesting! I was prompted to check on Worldometers.info for recent changes in the rates of infection and death for these countries – in the first three all rates of death from COVID have dropped markedly in the past few months. (San Marino since early May; Hungary since early June; Serbia since early July. In Argentina, sadly, the rates of infection and of death are still high.)
Do you have any information as to when vaccination was rolled out? Has the Delta variant begun to spread in these countries? (Argentina is dealing with the Lambda variant as well as others.)
Does anyone have reliable information as to which countries are using Ivermectin on a widespread basis, and on when this use might have begun?
Posted by: Hope | Aug 11 2021 9:46 utc | 143
@ 30 Max
The article you linked to stems from a New Zealand nazi, Kerry R. Bolton, co-founder the New Zealand branch of the Church of Odin, a pro-Nazi organisation for “whites of non-Jewish descent”, according to http://researchcommons.waikato.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/10289/2446/thesis.pdf?sequence=6&isAllowed=y .
Your international finance conspiracy and anti-marxist ravings too have a certain stink.
Posted by: aquadraht | Aug 11 2021 9:50 utc | 144
karlof1 | Aug 10 2021 22:02 utc | 77
The breakdown of relations between conscripts (enlisted) soldiers and the Officers, (Oftenfuzziers?) can be seen almost everywhere, but is automatically down played by the “Etat-Majeur”. Bad for Morale.
One situation was the large “loss” of officers in the First World War. This was due to the Officers only doing a stint of four months on the front, before being relieved. The “men” did six. The difference meant that the troops stationed at the front literally did not know their own officers. New (and often it was their first posting) Officers arrived, to command hardened soldiers who had been living under threat for months. This led to many cases of shooting in the back (of Officers), and of troops (in the back) who wouldn’t go over the top (by sargeants – who had Officers behind them to shoot them in the back if they didn’t shoot the troops).
Coincidentally there were also cases of “court martials” of innocent men – (chosen at random?) who were then shot “as an example”.
It is almost a question of who killed more, the enemy or the “Leaders” (Quote; British troops sustained 420,000 casualties—including 125,000 deaths—during the Battle of the Somme. The casualties also included 200,000 French troops and 500,000 German soldiers. – 20’000 UK troops were killed in the first hour). All because the UK General whose command post was in an an Oak tree ten miles away from the front couldn’t believe his plan was wrong, so he sent the troops in three times to make sure. (Haigh. There is a statue to him along Whitehall, I believe).
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Could this regular class based breakdown have anything to do with the number of regular forces abandoning their posts and going over to the Taliban? Many will simply have more empathy with those civilians and tribesmen who have been bombed for 20 years by strangers, than with the strangers themselves. ie They would rather see the US just leave.
Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 11 2021 10:20 utc | 145
The Modiganda on Afghanistan is getting rather frantic. Today 1000 Afghan puppet child sex slaver Quisling warlord regime army troops surrendered Kunduz Airport without a fight. Among the aircraft captured was a Mi35 helicopter gunship donated by the Modi regime to the Ghani regime in 2019. It lacks rotors, though, so its not as though it’s in flyable condition.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 11 2021 10:46 utc | 146
This is actually weird in Fair article:
Not a neutral voice <- huge bold section heading
Let’s be clear: Murray isn’t a neutral voice untethered from any agenda. The Courier (5/11/21) described Murray as a partisan supporter of Salmond, even standing for election with Salmond’s Alba Party, which Salmond helped found after leaving the Scottish National Party. The piece went on to say that Murray’s posts were a response to what he felt was a politically motivated prosecution of Salmond by the “SNP leadership, the Scottish Government, the Crown Office and police.”
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Clearly, if freedom of expression has any sense at all it is restricted a gardening column bereft of any agenda, or crossword puzzles without any politically snide clues. I grew up in mildly "totalitarian country" and I could read decent quality "neutral" stuff. I can't vouch for gardening columns because I am an idiot on that subject, but bridge columns were fine as so were the crossword puzzles. The freedom for "neutral expression" was not abridged. And who decides what is "neutral"? Guardians of the Overton window? Of course, the mildly totalitarian country had a special office circulating the advise what not to write and what to write. It had a building, a physical address. Now, living in the free West, I have no idea how and where "blanking out" decisions are made, but we see them enforced from time to time, fire that person, jail another ...
What I want to say is that it is genuinely weird to mention "neutrality" aspect when you discuss politically motivated repression of expression. Should we praise the organs of the State that they spare "neutral" voices and limit themselves to hounding non-neutral opponents? Yea, they jailed Assange and Murray, but look how many are allowed to publish. So rather then a protest, we will write some carping.
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 11 2021 10:58 utc | 147
Am I banned? I don’t appear to be able to post.
I have noticed that if you take a long time composing a post it will show as posted and not actually make the page. That has happened to me a number of times. There is some sort of timeout built into the page.
The instructions on the site is to keep the posts short and too the point. I know that is hard to do sometimes.
Posted by: circumspect | Aug 11 2021 11:36 utc | 148
Stonebird @ 145
Could this regular class based breakdown have anything to do with the number of regular forces abandoning their posts and going over to the Taliban? Many will simply have more empathy with those civilians and tribesmen who have been bombed for 20 years by strangers, than with the strangers themselves. ie They would rather see the US just leave.
I think a number of factors play in to the idea. Exhaustion from decades of war, lack of faith in the Empires bullshit, knowledge of events on the ground knowing you are going to lose, choosing life over death as the Taliban offers life or death if you give up or fight, hunger from lack of preparedness after being swept into a position you did not expect and probably a host of other reasons.
Hope based on the Empires promises have turned to despair.
Posted by: circumspect | Aug 11 2021 11:48 utc | 149
Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 11 2021 10:20 utc | 145
If you are going to dump on Haig (and I am more than willing). you need to include Foch too. They both threw away the forces under their command by incompetence and arrogance. The first rule for any commander is “do not waste the lives of your men”. They will resent it. That was the beginning of the end of the British Empire, just as the folly of Vietnam began the decline of “the West”. (Well, you can argue Korea, the first really stupid war, but …).
Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 11 2021 12:03 utc | 150
Posted by: Down South | Aug 11 2021 7:30 utc | 131
request for independent review of j&j vaccine.
Here’s a link to a U of Minnesota website. Not a lot of info, posted in March, 2021.
” Unlike the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines which utilized a mRNA flatform, the Janssen vaccine is a non-replicating viral vector vaccine.”
My wife and I got the J&J in early March, no reaction/bad symptoms at all. I remain skeptical about all covid vaccines– it’s just too early to tell along with the fact that I am not medically trained and know very little about how viruses work and how “vaccines” work. At this point I would avoid the Pfizer an Moderna.
https://covidebm.umn.edu/janssen-jj-covid-19-vaccine
Posted by: migueljose | Aug 11 2021 12:08 utc | 151
Posted by: Hope | Aug 11 2021 9:46 utc | 143
Does anyone have reliable information as to which countries are using Ivermectin on a widespread basis, and on when this use might have begun?
Ivermectin is reported to be used on a widespread basis by a significant number of African countries to combat intestinal parasites (worms).
One of the maddening aspects of this pandemic is the lack of valid information regarding national infection rates contrasted with either type of vaccine, or other types of prophylaxis.
My understanding is that Gibralter, Iceland and Israel have the greatest proportion of vaccinated individuals but that all are showing increased rates of infection and hospitalization by the Delta variant.
The medical science is unclear but it is suggested that the negative effects of mRNA vaccines only manifest after a period of months to 3 years. Since the mRNA jab is an experimental medication the world population is presently engaged in an experiment with the majority of participants being denied the right of informed consent. Those of us who elect to avoid the mRNA vaccines now constitute a control group.
I suspect a better sense of the risks associated with mRNA vaccines will be evident in 3 to 6 months. As Paco suggests at #142 the best strategy is lots of sunlight, moderate exercise, and an abundance of fresh fruits and vegetables and an avoidance of chemically processed industrial food. Plus dandelion tea!!
Cheers!
Posted by: Sushi | Aug 11 2021 12:37 utc | 152
@ aquadraht (#144), really appreciate your information and bringing it to my attention. Thanks. I do now understand author’s bias. However, are you saying the information in the article is false. Which parts are misleading? No generalization.
Do you have any details on Ruskombank, its international financiers? How about financial backers of Lenin, Trotsky and the Russian revolution? Can you name a democracy that isn’t a suzerainty?
Marxism theory is just a theoretical concept without any real successful example. You’re welcome to enlighten.
Posted by: Max | Aug 11 2021 12:38 utc | 153
I think the link below bolsters my earlier comment, from the Seattle Times today: Get vaccinated or dont work for the government at the state or local level
Posted by: David F | Aug 11 2021 12:41 utc | 154
I only skimmed the comments under the article, but they are about 95% or more in favor of forced vaccination, with over the top arguments of putting others at risk, endangering us all, etc.
Posted by: David F | Aug 11 2021 12:46 utc | 155
@Posted by: Paul | Aug 11 2021 9:33 utc | 139
re:post banning
I would venture a guess that b has an algorithm set to strict
during his recuperation period.
So, cannot post a Saker link and you suggested that press*tv*dot*com
is out of bounds also.
In case you wanted to know about the Saker Falcon
“Hungary is evidently the European stronghold for the Saker Falcon, with 55% of the European breeding population, efforts to conserve the globally Endangered raptor also need to support smaller yet substantial populations in Slovakia (7%), Serbia (6%) and Austria (5%) as well as the Czech Republic and Moldova.”
Moldova issued a coin in 2018 with the Saker on it.
The Saker population is falling in Moldova as the number of ground squirrels is falling.
The Saker vs the ground squirrels
Posted by: librul | Aug 11 2021 12:55 utc | 156
guidoamm @ 126 wrote:
Exchanging labour for money exchanges something you own outright for something you do not own and do not control the value of. The exchange does not represent equal value. You cannot physically own the note you receive in exchange for your effort and you cannot control the purchasing value of same.
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If there were no power of the individual to determine the value of one’s own labor or of the value of the goods and service that the individual trades for money then there would be no Madison Avenue advertising industry. If what you claim is true then there would not be hundreds of billions of dollars spent on persuading and convincing morons that they have no power in the market place to determine the value of the monetary exchanges in which they engage – that they must accept what beautiful people tell them to accept. Actually it goes beyond acceptance – they must want what they are told to want.
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Money is a concept. Anything can be used as a token to exchange goods and services.
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That statement is correct and someone who understands that statement would not write all the nonsense that followed it.
The monetary authority does not control the value (or even the quantity) of money. The Feds job is to persuade and convince and I have to give them credit for doing that fairly successfully. As long as people believe what you believe, the Fed remains powerful.
The Fed is not in control of interest rates and the Fed does not pump money into the stock market. Those stories are just part of the propaganda to persuade the morons that it is all beyond their control and they must just accept that the present money system always works as you describe it, even though the evidence is overwhelming that often it does not work as you describe.
Posted by: jinn | Aug 11 2021 12:56 utc | 157
@Posted by: David F | Aug 11 2021 12:46 utc | 155
It has begun.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/swiss-police-threaten-stop-enforcing-covid-19-rules
“Police in Switzerland have threatened to stop enforcing COVID-19 rules over fears that the measures are disproportionately undermining the fundamental rights of citizens.”
Posted by: librul | Aug 11 2021 12:58 utc | 158
to all the good people who are justifiably skeptical of the IPCC reports, I would simply rephrase the climate dialogue a bit.
Consider simply the nature of thermal distributions in aqueous solutions. If you add salt say to hot water. What happens?
Extrapolate to the more complex system of a planet 2/3’s surface water, 1/3 surface land with an atmosphere composed a a more or less stable mixture of gaseous elements.
Is it not true that altering the chemical proportions of such a system necessarily and permanently alters the thermal distribution of the individual subsystems? If not, the the well established principles of thermal dynamics need a thorough review as well.
No, the only question is: to what degree do the demonstrable perturbations in thermal distribution affect the biological ecosystems which evolve in response to the relative stability evidenced in the Holocene? And you can argue the rest of your life about that. What you can’t say with any credibility is that the earth is exempt from the Laws of Thermodynamics.
Posted by: Newguy | Aug 11 2021 13:05 utc | 159
Thanks to those who responded to my request.
I found this too:
Cape Town – The Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 vaccine is around 91-96% effective against death and has been found to be effective against the Delta variant, according to researchers from the Covid-19 Sisonke Implementation Study.
Co-principal investigator of the study, Professor Glenda Gray, said the findings show that there is “remarkable protection” against Covid-19 hospitalisation and death.
“Protection is good against both the Beta and the Delta variant. There was 67% protection against hospitalisation with the Beta variant and 71% protection against hospitalisation with the Delta variant,” she said during a media briefing on Friday.
“Our data shows that the vaccine protects against the Beta and Delta variant, in fact, there is better efficacy against Delta than there is against the Beta based on our analysis.”
The Sisonke study vaccinated over 477 000 healthcare workers from 120 sites in both rural and urban areas between 17 February and 17 of May.
Final results from the study found that the J&J vaccine also showed a sustained immune response in healthcare workers.
The J&J vaccine can provide up to 96% protection against death. Image: Sisonke Implementation Study. Gray said the vaccine can provide around 65% protection against hospitalisation for up to eight months.
“There is no need for a booster shot yet as the vaccine has shown good durability but we will continue to evaluate this as we follow up with the healthcare workers,” she said.
The study found that there were some breakthrough infections following vaccination, however, these were mostly mild cases.
“Around 96% of the breakthrough infections were mild, 3% moderate, less than 0.05% severe and less than 0.05% in deaths,” said Gray.
The study has deemed the vaccine to be safe and while there were concerns about the rare clotting disorder — thrombocytopenia thrombosis syndrome — there were only two cases and both made a full recovery.
Sisonke study finds J&J Covid-19 vaccine up to 96% effective against death
Posted by: Down South | Aug 11 2021 13:14 utc | 160
Clearly there are many terrorized people writing in the comments here. That’s what you get from state sponsored terrorism.
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 11 2021 13:32 utc | 161
A year ago everything was Trump’s fault. Today it’s because of climate change.
Posted by: Passerby | Aug 11 2021 13:56 utc | 162
“Pfizer and BioNTech’s Covid-19 vaccine is just 39% effective in Israel where the delta variant is the dominant strain according to a new report from the country’s Health Ministry” CNBC report
The CNBC piece which claims that even though Pfizer is only 39 percent effective, it still protects against serious disease. But this is simply not true, which you can easily see if you take the trouble to look into the data put out by the Israeli government. At roughly the same time that CNBC filed its report, the Israeli Ministry of Health published a bulletin which reported on Covid cases in the country. According to their data, there were 137 serious cases in Israel of which 95 were fully vaccinated and 42 unvaccinated or partially vaccinated (see here and here). In other words, the bulk of the serious cases was comprised of those who had received their shots. If the vaccine was as effective in protecting against heavy illness as the article claims, the numbers would look completely different. The figures published by the Israeli Ministry of Health shows that the claims of Pfizer’s efficacy of protecting against serious Covid are simply untrue.
This has been confirmed by the testimony of Dr Kobi Haviv, Director of Herzog Hospital in Jerusalem. In a recent TV interview, Dr Haviv stated that the fully vaccinated people account for about 90 percent of hospitalizations. Given that less than 90 percent of the Israeli population is fully vaccinated, it would appear that the vaccination not only does not prevent you from contracting the disease, but actually increases one’s chances of becoming a serious Covid case. Observes Dr Haviv: “yes, unfortunately, the vaccine… as they say, its effectiveness is waning.” see The Real-World Data Show the Covid Vaccines Are Ineffective
Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 11 2021 14:01 utc | 163
@ Posted by: Down South | Aug 11 2021 13:14 utc | 160
That’s actually bad news, because every other vaccine has a 100% effectiveness against death (the released percentages you see in the media are for any case of the disease).
@ Posted by: Roger | Aug 11 2021 4:03 utc | 122
Global Warming Hypothesis (Antropocene hypothesis) is a hypothesis that tries to explain the climate since the 19th Century, the specific patterns of change of this era. It is not a hypothesis that tries to explain climate in general. Nobody is doubting the validity of the Snow Ball Earth hypothesis. Nobody is contesting the fact that a new ice age will eventually come, and that climate does change.
People erroneously think that Global Warming means humans will die from the heat. That’s false: according to the model, the homo sapiens will be extinct much before we reach that stage; it will be extinct by the collapse of agriculture well before the Earth comes even close to become a “fire ball”. Even rises of 1°C of global average per annum are enough to wipe out agriculture in entire regions. A 5°C would be apocalyptic.
So, it’s important to highlight this: Global Warming is not a Fire Ball Earth hypothesis. A Fire Ball Earth model would only be possible if the Earth didn’t have the oceans.
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@ Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 11 2021 7:39 utc | 132
mRNA vaccines do work in theory. The problem is that, in biological sciences, there’s a huge distance between something working in theory and in practice. A lot of people here comes from STEM, so they think mechanically, and automatically assume the mRNA vaccines are already perfect because the theory is solid because that’s how it works in engineering and computer sciences, but that’s not the state-of-the-art of Biological Sciences, which deals with human beings (much more complex machines than everything a engineer has ever worked on and will ever work on).
It seems we still don’t have the manufacturing finesse and technology to fully dominate the mRNA technology. Pfizer and Moderna seem to be trying to “cheat” by overloading each dose with mRNA molecules, which brings the problem of fine tuning the immune system.
AstraZeneca also seems to have the same problem, even though it is not mRNA. Its chimpanzee adenovirus viral vector technique is still experimental, and the side effects are erratic (i.e. the vector attacking the nerves of the person, causing transverse myelitis effects).
That’s the huge advantage of the Sputnik V and the Sinopharm vaccines: they’re using already tried and tested technologies. They use the same technology used in the already consolidated vaccines, which billions of people have already taken. Sure, they still needed to be trialed, but they were and everything indicates they work as intended.
It is such an alphabet soup out there.
Anyone hear of CNAS?
Fellow travelers can be found here: https://www.cnas.org/visiting-fellows
I am cautious about what links to provide as today I have experienced trouble getting
things to post when they have an “undesirable” link.
[url goes here]
The Center for New American Security provides residencies to top national security correspondents while raking in massive funding from the arms industry, Pentagon and State Department.
Imagine a country where there’s no separation between the government, the military, and the media. A lot of Americans would think of China, Russia or North Korea, but it’s a perfect description of the United States today. Located in Washington, the Center For A New American Security (CNAS) is the clearest example of the unholy merger.
– Dan Cohen 8/4/2021 and reprinted 8/9/2021
Posted by: librul | Aug 11 2021 15:05 utc | 167
hope you’re feeling better b.
sending heartfelt get well soon.
Posted by: annie | Aug 11 2021 15:06 utc | 168
@Posted by: librul | Aug 11 2021 15:05 utc | 167
The missing url is this:
https://www.mintpressnews.com/national-security-reporters-linked-government-center-for-a-new-american-security/278151/
Posted by: librul | Aug 11 2021 15:10 utc | 169
Re: vk | Aug 11 2021 14:59 utc | 166 mRNA vaccines do work in theory. The problem is that, in biological sciences, there’s a huge distance between something working in theory and in practice.
Indeed . . . and without any sort of adequate clinical trials, many hundreds of millions of people have been “vaccinated” with mRNA that programs their ribosomes to produce the COVID S1 Spike Protein, which is then expressed on the surface of their cells. Data clearly shows that the injected mRNA moves throughout the body (for up to two weeks), to the heart, to the brain, to the ovaries and testes.
This is essentially a phase 3 trial on humanity with an “investigational vaccine”, as it is described by the FDA in the emergency use provision.
Dr. Luc Montagnier, who who won the 2008 Nobel Prize for leading the team that discovered the HIV retrovirus, thinks the mRNA “vaccines” are creating dangerous mutations of COVID19, see Nobel Prize Winner Reveals – Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’
Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 11 2021 15:29 utc | 170
Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 11 2021 7:39 utc | 132
This paper explains how the mRNA injections work: The Pfizer mRNA vaccine: pharmacokinetics and toxicity.
The cited paper warns that the toxicity of the jab increases:4 Summary
Pfizer’s animal data clearly presaged the following risks and dangers:
•blood clotting shortly after vaccination, potentially leading to heart attacks,stroke, and venous thrombosis
•grave harm to female fertility
•grave harm to breastfed infants
•cumulative toxicity after multiple injectionsThe warning with respect to cumulative toxicity after multiple injections is concerning given that the present state response to Delta is a 3rd “booster injection.”
My sense of all this is that OECD member states will face increasing reports of vaccine adverse events, will respond by ordering a third or fourth “booster” in response with the possible outcome being an increasing rate of adverse events.
Should this come to pass, I anticipate the vaccinated, who have been injected with materials they cannot remove from their bodies, will turn on those bureaucrats and elites responsible.
Posted by: Sushi | Aug 11 2021 15:30 utc | 171
Gordog @114–
Thanks for your reply and kind assessment! I’ve found VK to be very comfortable in a manner that Facebook isn’t. I haven’t used it as much as I might’ve, although that will change now that my historical investigations are coming to a close.
I dread the karma effect of my USofA.
If karma is for real then all the sheet the US of MIC has dished out
is going to come back at us hard and in a big way.
Are the mRNA vaccines the vessels of that karma?
If Sputnik V were available to you, would you prefer to receive it over our mRNA?
https://www.mci.edu/en/media-en/news/3272-sputnik-v-2
Posted by: librul | Aug 11 2021 15:42 utc | 173
by: karlof1 13 as it has become crystal clear to the public that the US performance in fighting the pandemic has disappointed the world, and not only thrown the American people into a crisis but also had a devastating impact on the overall global response.
I do not know about that karlof1.. consider these patents, comments and observations taken from or derived from the video presented in the last thread
here
1. the video reveals=> Timothy Miller, Sharon Klepfer, Albert Paul Reed and Elian Kones on jan. 28, 2000, filed issued US patent 6372-224 < spike protein virus, a vaccine designed to study many forms of canine corona virus, < research beginning about year 2000 turned from animals to studying the virus in humans.
2. patent 7279327 is said to show that the SARS virus can be made by man <=before the SARS threat was released on the world. Science had full knowledge of ACE-2 Receptor S1 spike protein binding; it had to in order to design and construction in the lab these variations of these viruses so they could be tested? Would it matter if patent 4.28.2003 (7151163 issued to Sequoia Pharmaceutical) was issued and published before the CDC's patent on Corona virus was actually allowed?
3. patent 7220852 and US Patent 4659203P, is said to patent the gene sequence of SARS corona virus and the Reverse Transcriptase PCR test used to detect it.
4. the video explains: the core designation of SARS corona virus is actually the clade of the corona virus family <= its subclade(SARS_2)
5. Sequoia Pharmaceutical patent holdings were said to have been rolled into the proprietary holdings of Pfizer, Crusell, and Johnson and Johnson.. (the patentable and copyrightable intangibles are all recipes from which recipe, the series of highly related corona viruses can be made in the lab, the presence of the lab produced virus can be tested for, and the patient sick from the lab produced virus can be made well) . RULE OF LAW to control the behaviors of the governed <= made these recipes scientist developed, into privately owned high valued assets. The government agrees to protect private rights in public matters because the rule of law says so,<=without a nation state to make a law, there is no convenient way to be the exclusive owner of a recipe that can impact the public.
I observe that the facts presented in the referenced video suggest <=the government apparently paid for the research that allowed labs to learn how to make, to test, and to cure (MTC) the many viruses that have in the past 20 years threatened propaganda produced and distributed on MSM. and then they turned that knowledge into privately owned, pieces of property, which made a few rich.. ?
6. apparently patents were issued between June 5, 2008 and those patents talk about the novel spike protein and the ACE-2 receptor binding domain.. appearing in the SARS Cov2 virus (see also US Patent 9193780) .
I recommend the facts and circumstances laid out in the referenced video need to be explained. in finite detail. ..to the satisfaction of the whole world. would love to hear commentary about this..
Posted by: snake | Aug 11 2021 15:44 utc | 174
Mina @Aug11 4:54 #128
jen 94 on j and j, not a rumour..the Baltimore plant screwed 15 Mo doses (on purpose?)
Actual Jen’s rumor was that the plant mixed up ingredients of the J&J and AstroZeneca vaccines.
I’m not sure if that’s true, but I do know that millions of doses were said to be contaminated and were destroyed (>10 million, I believe – Mina may be right about 15m) AND the plant was supposed to make the US supply of AstroZeneca.
The J&J scare, meant that many people avoided J&J and AstroZeneca has never been distributed in USA (AFAIK). The way has been cleared for mRNA. Despite the difficulties/cost of the “vaccine” and the very experimental nature of the “vaccine”.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 11 2021 15:55 utc | 175
@ librul…. you appear to have no problems posting now! good…
@ paul…. not sure but i agree with @ circumspect | Aug 11 2021 11:36 utc | 148… if you want to write something long, you need to be careful as there appears to be a timer that interferes with one posting a longer post.. if you copy and paste from an e mail draft, it might be advisable…. i am certain you are not banned..
@ Piotr Berman | Aug 11 2021 10:58 utc | 147… thanks…here is the article you seem to be referencing..
Jailing of a British Blogger Should Worry Journalists on Both Sides of the Atlantic
Posted by: james | Aug 11 2021 16:05 utc | 176
don’t know how that happened, but the link to the article works…
Posted by: james | Aug 11 2021 16:06 utc | 177
How can the collapse of agriculture wipe out the human race? Humans existed before agriculture.
Posted by: lysias | Aug 11 2021 16:07 utc | 178
A very useful Infographic published by Global Times here, “Chronicle of COVID-19 Outbreak,” ought to be viewed in conjunction with the analytical paper I linked @13. Then either before, after, or in-between, this article disclosing the Outlaw US Empire’s “Covid-19 tracing terrorism” political program ought to be read:
“As US President Joe Biden approaches his deadline for intelligence agencies to hand over reports on the origins of the novel coronavirus, a source close to the matter told the Global Times on Tuesday that the US’ push for the probes on virus origins was aimed at consuming China’s diplomatic resources. The US is trying to find “loopholes” in China’s epidemic control policy, and planning to continue pressuring the WHO and collude with its allies to pressure China in an attempt to discredit the Chinese government for ‘covering up the truth about the origins of the virus’….
“The source said that US intelligence officials are trying to find some witnesses or insiders during the initial stage of the epidemic in Wuhan, the city that first reported the outbreak in China, prying into the “lockdown measures” and “restriction areas,” with people who work in the medical system, biological research institutes or those who live in Wuhan being their targets.”
Sputnik also picked up this issue and published this article about what it calls “competing narratives on the coronavirus pandemic.” Many are describing the Outlaw US Empire’s efforts as a replay of the pre-Iraq invasion narrative or even further back to the Gulf of Tonkin lies, but very few of those voices are from within the Empire. What I found very curious were the white tail deer findings reported at the end of the paper linked @13 which were in proximity to Ft. Detrick beginning in 2019.
Now with the massive outbreak in Florida, we discover more shit which at least the Miami Herald questioned and is reported here by Global Times:
“Florida, a new COVID-19 epicenter in the US where the seven-day average cases rose to a record of more than 19,000 in August, is causing public concern due to its serious epidemic situation and the lack of transparency about its early cases – especially in the case of 171 early patients’ data that was deleted and concealed.
“People in Florida complained about the concealment of information on these cases, which are now widely believed to have emerged earlier than the state’s officially reported patients – and even earlier than the virus outbreak in Wuhan, Central China’s Hubei Province.
“‘It’s time the Department of Health made transparency a priority again,’ a Miami Herald editorial said on July 30, urging the local government to release full COVID-19 case data.” [My Emphasis]
The attempt to smear China will very likely boomerang upon the Outlaw US Empire as further forensic investigations are made.
@ Posted by: lysias | Aug 11 2021 16:07 utc | 178
Well, first, going back to hunter-gatherism would mean having to exterminate almost all of humanity, as the system can only sustain some millions at the same time around the globe.
Second, it is impossible to go back to hunter-gatherism because agriculture wiped out the megafauna that sustained it. Put it simply, the objective material conditions that made hunter-gatherism viable don’t exist anymore, you can’t revert entropy.
@ lysias | Aug 11 2021 16:07 utc | 178:
I follow Margaret Atwood’s lead in believing that a few solitary and poor bands of humans might be able to lead nasty, brutish, and short lives subsisting on rats, cockroaches, and dandelions . . . as long as the supply of rats, cockroaches, and dandelions manages to withstand an increasingly unstable and hostile climate.
Posted by: corvo | Aug 11 2021 16:23 utc | 181
circumspect | Aug 11 2021 11:48 utc | 149
Exhaustion from (US) wars is becoming a leading cause of “peace in our times”?
(…as the chamberpot guy once said, but he read it on a bit of paper)
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Bemildred | Aug 11 2021 12:03 utc | 150
Foch Haigh. I remember there was a “peter principle” a long time ago. Where career bods worked hard to get to the maximum position they could do, and then were promoted to a position they could NOT do.
(Quote;- people are promoted to their level of incompetence,)
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The loss of men, either from warfare or sickness (Malaria etc) became so extreme that the end of the B. Empire must have been a forgone conclusion. Possibly one of the reasons for many a lost campaign, but when there is glory for some – who’s counting?
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PS: Many British troops in the WWI were from other countries in the “Commonwealth”.
Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 11 2021 16:23 utc | 182
Karloff, can you find a link to the PDF of that Chinese think tank report? I can only find the summaries of it on news sites like Global Times.
Also, what article of yours was Gordog referring to?
Posted by: Prof | Aug 11 2021 16:25 utc | 183
Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 11 2021 16:23 utc | 182
Yes. My father fought at Vimy Ridge, Canadian Expeditionary Force, 1917-1918 I think. Almost lost a leg. Lost all his teeth. Then lived to 92 (almost).
But I note particularly the failure of military discipline, the troops turned on their officers. That happened in Vietnam too. That’s why USA began to use mercs. Typical pattern for empires that have lost the allegiance of their citizens.
And of course the incompetence you note behind it all.
Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 11 2021 16:32 utc | 184
librul @167 and @169, Dan Cohen also has this good 6-minute YouTube video:
Media and the Permanent War State: Top National Security Reporters Linked to US Government
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AY4lmpnEOc
Posted by: Canadian Cents | Aug 11 2021 16:35 utc | 185
While I first cannot believe the state of Israel would knowingly inject its population with a deadly pathogen, the widespread use of the Pfizer mRNA product there serves as a control group and, if the adverse effects would begin to show after 3-6 months, those effects should be ready apparent by now.
Posted by: jayc | Aug 11 2021 16:35 utc | 186
Karlof, just wondering if you’ve checked out the Lithuania kerfuffle on Global Times? Would be interested in hearing your take on that!
Posted by: Gordog | Aug 11 2021 16:40 utc | 187
Prof @182–
Thanks much for your query! The paper’s link is @13 above and here, and I remind it’s a PDF. The article Gordog refers to is one I wrote using the linked think-tank’s paper as its core and published at my VK Space here. Today, I added to my VK “wall” most of what I posted @178 above, the Sputnik article being the exception.
@ guidoamm (#126), even gold/silver/bronze coins aren’t safe. Just look at the 1933 gold confiscation in the U$A and the path leading to closer of gold window in 1971. Even the UK closed the gold convertibility window multiple times.
Wars, waste, bubbles… distort the monetary system and create problems. Particularly, when money creation is privatized. Without transparency & accountability, no system is safe. It is only when citizens are vigilant about the monetary system they can expect a better outcome.
An enlightened citizenry is indispensable for the proper functioning of a republic.
Posted by: Max | Aug 11 2021 16:42 utc | 189
@ jinn (#157), you do have some good points. However, your arrogance mask its effectiveness. Arrogance is borne out of ignorance. If someone who understands power, money, value, manipulation and the nuanced world, would not generalize and write all the nonsense that you wrote, but explain it in a better way. How do you define “power”? POWER is the capacity to alter the behavior of other actors.
INDIVIDUAL POWER & RESPONSIBILITY. No one has power over you unless you give it to them. You raise a good point about individual’s power which in various realms (economic, consumption, politics, social…) is influenced, distorted and captured in a significant way. The very fact majority of individuals (99%) can’t state correctly and concisely “who creates money” in their nation, shows the extent of sickness in our society. What are the underlying causes of this sickness? Individual’s buying power is influenced by the “Madison Avenue advertising industry” to capture their money and drive companies revenue & profits. Individuals don’t behave responsibly in many realms. Whoever owns the MEDIA owns the sheep. An enlightened citizenry is indispensable for the proper functioning of a republic.
“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true RULING POWER of our country.”
MONETARY AUTHORITY. What is the role of the monetary authority? The Fed is a cartel of private banks to protect the banking and finance sector. It is primarily the PR firm and secondarily the regulatory arm of the finance sector. So who drives the present money system? Who defines the value of nation’s money in the global arena? Market?
“Those who create and issue money and credit direct the policies of government and hold in the hollow of their hands the destiny of the people.” So who controls the MONEY POWER❓
Posted by: Max | Aug 11 2021 16:47 utc | 190
Gordog @188–
I commented on that yesterday @20 on the previous page. I see a new editorial’s been published that I’ll read and comment upon later as something else gets to go first.
The “stalemate” in Belarus is this op/ed’s topic by Fyodor Lukyanov, the editor-in-chief of Russia in Global Affairs, chairman of the Presidium of the Council on Foreign and Defense Policy, and research director of the Valdai International Discussion Club, a very credible and informed analyst. He observes:
“Just one year on from Belarus’ disputed presidential election, the tense situation in the country has ground into a stalemate between the government and opposition activists. The next move seems unclear even to the major players….
“Lukashenko’s opponents in the West are also facing a stalemate. Sanctions are increasing Belarus’ dependence on Russia, turning it into one of its subsidized regions, which is exactly what the West was trying to avoid in the first place.”
Much review is provided along with a search for a solution. He brings up what happened with Armenia where the situation was and remains quite complicated as a possible solution:
“Last year, many used to draw parallels between Belarus and Armenia. The opposition in, or, more often now, outside of Belarus kept wondering how Yerevan’s Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan managed to convince the Kremlin that taking power from pro-Moscow forces wouldn’t pose any threat to Russia’s interests.
“They needed to know what to do to assure their counterparts that Belarus without Lukashenko is not going to shun the alliance with Russia. There seemed to be no arguments that would be powerful or convincing enough – but that wasn’t because the people or factions were the wrong ones, no. It was mainly because the level of general mistrust internationally had grown so much that it became hard to believe just about anybody on anything.”
The op/ed is very educational as it informs people of many obscure nuances that usually aren’t provided via news agencies, particularly those in the West who lie and mislead more often than not.
snake wrote:
apparently patents were issued between June 5, 2008 and those patents talk about the novel spike protein and the ACE-2 receptor binding domain.
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Whats the big deal? The original SARS virus was modified and that was patented. So what?
There is no evidence that is the same virus that is now causing a pandemic. The SARS1 was much more deadly virus than the current virus causing Covid.
If the original SARS virus had been made to spread like the covid virus has more than 4 million people would have died in the US.
Posted by: jinn | Aug 11 2021 17:06 utc | 192
Posted by: Gordog | Aug 11 2021 16:40 utc | 188
Absolutely absent in the western MSM news Lithuania has been a hot spot lately with Lukashenko sending back a few messages to the european bureaucrats and their sanctions. A year has gone by after the failed color rev that he stood demonstratively holding an AK, unlike Yanukovich, and holding for the aniversary an eight hour long press conference during which he dispensed pearls to all the parties involved, the man is something to behold. After the failed coup transit to Lithuanian ports has been drastically curtailed, and the Baltics are starting to feel the pinch. Besides, and quite correctly Lukashenko pointed out that Lithuania participated in the Irak fiasco, they should face the consequences. A migrant is dead and lots of them beaten and sent back to Belarus, but the human rights song is the European tune, pure hypocrisy.
Yesterday Rozhin at Cassad posted some videos of Vilnius, he publishes in Russian, always on top of Russian and former Soviet space news.
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/6975524.html
Posted by: Paco | Aug 11 2021 17:28 utc | 193
Gordog @188–
Today’s Global Times editorial is considerably more forceful than yesterday’s and suggests Russia and China team up and Lithuania “taught a lesson by the two.” Perhaps Vilnius didn’t understand, since the editor thinks Lithuania’s “a country that has lost its mind” and is one of several “running dogs”:
“China should clarify in its counterattack against Lithuania that the Taiwan question is the redline that should never be crossed, and that China will not allow Lithuania to become an example for other countries to follow. Some European countries must not think about using the Taiwan question as leverage against China. The Taiwan question cannot be used as a bargaining chip. It is a high voltage line, even a watershed between peace and war.”
Myself and several other concerned barflies have watched the escalation over the Taiwan issue. Since Global Times is an unofficial voice of the PRC and its CPC, IMO there seems to be an ongoing debate at the highest level between hawks and doves on the issue as the editor’s conclusion signals:
“As the US started a new round of provocations over the island of Taiwan, China’s cost to deal with this question will increase accordingly. This has prompted China to think about whether it should accelerate the progress to solve the Taiwan question for good, completely eliminating the possibility of some US pawns using Taiwan as a bargaining chip. Such a strategic consideration is becoming increasingly urgent for China.” [My Emphasis]
We’ve discussed the potential for war to occur between China and the Outlaw US Empire on numerous occasions and agreed that in all instances the Empire loses, an outcome confirmed by its own war games. China doesn’t want war, but if it must deal with the Empire in that manner then it would like the battlespace to be the South China Sea away from all population centers, while it appears the Empire would prefer Taiwan so it can do what it does best–kill innocent civilians. A war in either location could easily escalate and go nuclear, which would bring in Russia and result in the obliteration of the USA. The big difference I see that harkens back to the 1970s-80s is that the Russians and Chinese Love Their Children while the USA demonstrably does not–a significant arrogance peculiar to Anglo Elites over the past 600 years.
One more thing, just noticed that Cassad posted an interview with Protasevich partner, Sapega, what started as a great hero with his picture posted on all main western airports now has become an embarrassment that nobody wants to name when talking about the Ryanair imbroglio. I’ll check what she has to say if anything, there is a fragment of Lukashenko’s presser in which he confirms that LNR investigators interrogated Protasevich concerning his participation in the Azov battalion, plus he takes credit for treating the Telegrammers kindly, let them sing their song 😉
Both Protasevich and Sapega have been thrown down the Winston Smith tube, spent heroes but they are there and talking about the color rev kitchen.
Lithuania, the Baltics and Poland are the clear losers of that failed coup, and blow back time is upon them.
Posted by: Paco | Aug 11 2021 17:42 utc | 195
Paco @194&6–
Thanks for those updates. RT has published this interview/article, “‘The revolution is already over’: Activist Roman Protasevich speaks to RT from custody about failed street protests in Belarus.” The item links to its interview with Protasevic which was conducted in Russian. For young people like him, the times are very confusing for numerous reasons, one of which will be the subject of my next comment.
@Roger #122
Most of the mechanisms you reference are millenial scale in action.
Secondly, CO2 doom as tested using both past history (CO2 levels were very much higher earlier in the Earth’s history) and more recent history (low CO2 levels due to Ice Ages) – all of the data clearly shows that CO2 levels follow temperature, not drive them.
Thirdly, we are unquestionably in a warming era after the Little Ice Age worst point in 1750.
Then there’s the detail. Willis Eschenbach looked at the IPCC’s models for sea level rise for San Francisco. IPCC’s model is projecting 4mm to 6mm or more sea level rise in SF this decade
The problem is that we have 100+ years of sea level rise recorded in SF – it has been a metronome-steady 2mm per year. In order to meet the minimum sea level rise this decade for SF – since we’re 2 years in – the sea level rise starting next year has to be far, far higher than 4mm/year.
I am willing to bet any sum of money you care to wager that this will not happen.
Willis has a lot of experience with computer modeling; I have a lot of experience with device modeling. We both believe that theories are nice but real world data is more important.
IPCC and the GCM climate models believe the opposite.
Sadly, the real world continues to diverge from GCM and IPCC prognostications, which in turn reduces my confidence in their predictions to zero.
And note that I do believe we are warming. What I do not believe, unreservedly, is that it is due to CO2 or that anyone, anywhere understands climate enough to predict even the short term, much less the medium or long term, climate.
Posted by: c1ue | Aug 11 2021 18:09 utc | 197
b:
get yourself some metronidazole course for 7 days (500 TID).
Posted by: Greg Galloway | Aug 11 2021 18:12 utc | 198
@snake #175
I don’t really know why people attach significance to patent applications.
There are patents granted for all sorts of nonsense that clearly doesn’t and never did work.
Plus there are entire organizations and companies who do nothing but file patents in case something does come out, so that they can try and extort money from the people who actually made said thing work.
Meaningless.
Posted by: c1ue | Aug 11 2021 18:13 utc | 199
the western MSM news on lithuania / lukashenko has been constant… which begs the question, why is the western msm news on assange and craig murray completely absent?? i sense an agenda and i’m sure i’m not the only one.. the western msm and it’s apparent neutrality is total b.s.
Posted by: james | Aug 11 2021 18:17 utc | 200