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July 25, 2021

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2021-057

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

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Other issues:

Billionaires are system errors:

Covid Politics:

Covid China:

Miscellaneous:

Use as open thread ...

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Investigating the matter, I see that it's not true that the West got Plato from an Islamic source. In the early Middle Ages, the only Platonic text known in the West was the Timaeus, part of which was translated into Latin by Calcidius in the 4th century A.D. The rest of Plato was unknown in the West until the Italian Renaissance of the 15th century, when Byzantine manuscripts in Greek were translated into Latin.

Posted by: lysias | Jul 26 2021 13:54 utc | 101

@Gordog @Stonebird
You might find this interesting: BBC article on flesh-eating plant reintro

some 10,000 years before they caught Darwin's eye, at the time when the bogs of north-west England began to form. On the surface of those early mosses, a tapestry of sphagnum moss and other acid-loving plants abounded and, year by year, added just a little bit more fallen organic matter to the heavy black mass of saturated peat upon which they grew – an incremental accretion of plant material that, thanks to the wet and acidic ground conditions, didn't rot, and instead compressed to form peat, locking millennia of carbon safely in the ground. Peat bogs cover just 3% of the Earth's surface, but they store more carbon than all the planet's forests combined.

Note that here is an oblique reference to the interruption of the carbon cycle which enables peat buildup.

As noted previously, the "American biotic" theory of oil formation is based on a similar theorized environment, but in the oceans in the distant past.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 26 2021 14:01 utc | 102

Amusing video of a basketball robot twitter video

It can't dribble apparently but it sure can shoot.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 26 2021 14:04 utc | 103

Peru
Castillo should be innaugurated this week. My prediction: he's going to take the fight to the bad guys. He's starting out by saying he will reject the president salary and live on his 5th grade teacher pay, also will propose a big pay and pension cut for legislators which will rally huge support and expose the opposition. Watch for a Bolivian style transformation and power shift in Peru which will get the current realignment in South America a big boost. Castillo has been quietly weaving a strong support network outside Peru as well with Bolivia's Evo Morales and Uruguay's Pepe Mujica. He's calling for a new constitution which will build a MAS type people's movement at the grass roots level. At some point soon the U.S. bases will be kicked out.
bottom line-- South America is rising


https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Peru-Pedro-Castillo-to-Give-Up-His-Salary-as-President--20210726-0008.html

Posted by: migueljose | Jul 26 2021 14:14 utc | 104

There's a CIA agent working in Reuters explicitly with the objective to align its editorship with the interests of the USG:

Senior Reuters director Dawn Scalici was a CIA officer for 33 years. Her job now is "advancing Thomson Reuters’ ability to meet the disparate needs of the U.S. Government".

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@ many

The Church preserved many Roman documents for one very simple reason: it was the only institution left basically intact when the Western part of the Empire fell. Many of the surviving documents were found not only in Rome, but in monasteries in other cities, too. This was default, not preservation of some abstract human heritage.

Besides, it does not illustrate the real issue: the Church still imposed its own doctrines and ideology on the world it dominated. There was no internet back then, and most people were illiterate either way. The surviving Greco-Roman documents didn't make any difference for Christian supremacy over Europe during Late Antiquity, the Middle Ages and the Modern Age. If much, it contributed even more to its legitimacy as an ideology, as it painted itself as some kind of universal patron of human culture to the non-Christian world.

Even today, no Western reads Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, etc. etc. You would be lying if you told me you read the complete works of the Greek philosophers when you were in school. It is a myth every Westerner receives a Greco-Roman education; today's West is not a Greco-Roman culture. In practice, most Westerners use a free, individual interpretation of the Bible for their everyday moral-ethic decisions, and the enforcement of the Law for the rest, when the journey for personal enrichment is not prejudiced.

If I were a historian from one millennium from now and studied the Western Civilization from today, I would describe its culture as a liberal (capitalist) Christian culture; maybe even call it "Neochristian" in order to differentiate the completely different Christianism from the past eras. In that sense, the Arabs and the Asians are correct when they say Western culture has nothing special, let alone nothing superior, to their cultures: if you isolate a random Christian from the heartland of the USA, he/she won't be any different from a random Muslim Arab from anywhere in the Middle East. It is only by chance that the Christian lives in the country that has the Pentagon.

Posted by: vk | Jul 26 2021 14:18 utc | 105

Jimmy Flies By @ 33 says..
The Bible .. is another layer of control mechanism. Turn the other cheek? <= religious culture in a collection of propaganda of type "culture propaganda" . There are many classes of propaganda.

Understanding the objective of and the target of culture propagandas allows to understand the meaning of being manipulated and differentiated in crucible operated by a collection of nation states. Propaganda is a major element to the supremacy and survival of the nation state, the nation state must maintain its supremacy over humanity to provide for those for whom it was designed to serve; in order to control those who are forced or coerced into serving it.

Hate, use of force, social class, language, opinion, comfort levels, and personal ideologies and the like are built by biology from experience into our minds. Media provides much of our experiences. What a human believes is a function of circumstance (context) and experience to the date of the evaluation. Biology engages experiences, it captures and interprets elements from each experience, then it processes those elements, stores the processed result, and uses those stored processed results to form the response to the next encounter with experience.
Long term, We call that maturing.

When the state or private media or special interest media is produced, distributed and encountered as experience, it controls knowledge, shapes beliefs, which collectively become part of the fabric and make up of the experienced individual.

When the family controls those experiences another set, and when the work place controls, yet another.. Education is a but a bureaucracy, learning (not education) is a <=completely personal, biological activity. All knowledge is acquired by or through experience (real, simulated, imaginary or virtual), etc. Language a tool which helps to engage experience, propaganda is the meaningful engineered content meant to provide some with an experience.

It is for this reason that I say the problem in the world is that a few persons, in a few places, with a very contained set of experiences and beliefs, should not be allowed to use the nation state system as if they were crucibles. It is in those crucibles that human experience is used to engineer warriors and thieves into well trained regiments who will support one nation state against all other nation states.

They Oligarch in charge of the nation states, make warriors of everyone, but different the beliefs of the warriors, depending on which of the 256 different nation states is doing grind the substances in the crucible. What and how the nation states do this mixing and blending is centrally controlled by a very few, often unseen group of Oligarchs and their associates.

Posted by: snake | Jul 26 2021 14:28 utc | 106

Al-magest

Posted by: Platero | Jul 26 2021 14:45 utc | 107

I cannot say that I have read all the works of Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates in school, but I did read several works of Aristotle and Plato at university. Socrates I have not read, because he left no written work. (Indeed, according to Plato's dialogue the Phaedrus, Socrates never wrote anything.)

Posted by: lysias | Jul 26 2021 14:55 utc | 108

@Posted by: librul | Jul 26 2021 12:33 utc | 97

My mistake, b had already posted the same article above under Miscellaneous:

[hmm...how often do you get to say 'above under' in a sentence?]

b linked to an article by Glenn Greenwald about the FBI orchestrating terrorist plots.

There are a pile of these terrorist plots.
I discussed another one at the following link, this one was a bit different as it was an FBI terrorist plot designed to benefit a foreign country at the expense of the US.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/02/new-york-times-editors-lie-obfuscate-facts-to-reinforce-their-false-russia-narrative.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef026bdebb66d1200c#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef026bdebb66d1200c

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Interesting Factoid of the Day:
Robert Mueller was put in place to head the FBI one week before 9/11.

Posted by: librul | Jul 26 2021 14:58 utc | 109

@Posted by: vk | Jul 26 2021 14:18 utc | 105

Your link to twitter does not appear to work. Perhaps I need to have a twitter account to open your link?

I found similar information here:

They are hiding in plain sight.

(Thomson Reuters owns the Reuters news service)

https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en-us/posts/authors/dawn-scalici/

Posted by: librul | Jul 26 2021 15:15 utc | 110

@vk,

Forgot to say thanks!, good info.

Posted by: librul | Jul 26 2021 15:16 utc | 111

Global Times has published its strongest editorial to-date over the "Covid-Tracing War":

"By forcing the World Health Organization to put the focus of the COVID-19 origins tracing on China again, the US intends to kill two birds with one stone: help the US shift the blame of poor pandemic handling, and build a long-term strategic public opinion and political containment against China by tracing the COVID-19 origins. China's only choice is to fight back with more intensity....

"The Biden administration's efforts to mobilize American population to fully get vaccinated have failed to fulfill its promise. And the epidemic is back on the rise. The Biden administration, which faces a growing risk of being punished in the midterm elections for its poor response to the pandemic, now has as much political need to blame China as the Trump administration.

"The Biden administration is fully copying the Trump administration's line of political hooliganism: using every means to frame China. As the epidemic continues to rage in the US, Washington is finding it hard to directly shift its responsibility to China. Therefore they are playing the 'COVID-19 origins card' fiercely, and comprehensively politicized a task that should have been scientifically advanced as nothing mobilizes Americans more than politics. Making Americans mad can make them stupid. Then they will feel that the ridiculous notion that China is responsible for US' failure to fight the pandemic 'makes sense....'

"A large part of the American scientific and public opinion community was apparently 'fooled' by the Biden administration and became 'political animals' to follow the politicians.

"Trump's strategy was to teach Americans to hate China until they felt that the US government was lovable no matter how stupid it was. New cases in the US now reach 40,000 or 50,000 in a single day under the Biden administration, and it's going up. This is not a small number, even compared to daily cases during Trump's administration. The pandemic-response is still poor even with the vaccines. If American voters don't hate China very much, how can they not find out that they elected people to lead the country who are even more stupid than the last one?...

"The aggressive and arrogant Western ideological bloc assembled by the US is now making the world lose basic moral rule and less open to debate. The coordinates of justice have been destroyed, the standards of good and evil have been tampered with....

"The US leads the world in the epidemic death toll, but it still bosses around the world in the global fight against the pandemic. Washington is invincible because it is impudent. In dealing with the US on controversial issues, China must understand that there is no reasoning with the US at all. We only reason with the world, and we have no choice but to play hardball with the US.

"We should demonstrate our determination and ability to confront the US and resolutely fight the arrogance of the US. The Biden administration's ability to deal with difficult issues between China and the US is much weaker than the Trump administration's. They already have far fewer resources than they had four years ago, and Biden himself has less decision-making power than Trump. On issues such as tracing the origins of the virus, we need to be tough with Washington. We need to make sure that whatever Washington says is in vain, and let the world see its rhetoric as a joke. The world will ultimately see Washington paying the price for its wrong China policy." [Emphasis Mine]

Heck-of-a-way to start a week. That China sees Biden's troop as worse than Trump's probably means Russia does as well. And not just the politicians but the general public too--"arrogant" and "stupid." The mid-terms will be fierce, particularly with the January 6th event being constructed as a political football and McCarthyite device by those pulling Pelosi's strings. And what of the larger world? Via numerous UNGA votes we can see almost none support the extremism of the Outlaw US Empire. I'm already looking forward to this year's UNGA Debate/speeches. One thing's certain: The Interesting Times we're experiencing will get even more interesting.


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Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 26 2021 15:18 utc | 112

In tandem with its editorial, Global Times published this article about international feedback on the Covid politicization issue:

"With many parts of the world overwhelmed by the COVID-19 surge, the US' politicization of virus origins tracing has seriously hobbled scientific research on this issue, which is why countries still ravaged by the pandemic have vented their anger against the politicization of the probe, Li Haidong, a professor at the Institute of International Relations of the China Foreign Affairs University, told the Global Times.

"He said that more countries and more scientists will stand up and voice their indignation if Washington continues to play the blame game on the coronavirus origins probe and keep Fort Detrick biolab shrouded in secrecy.

"A source close to the China-WHO joint expert team told the Global Times that the trend of politics leading science is 'unlikely to result in useful results. It will also significantly delay the next steps, making tracing even more difficult.' He said that eventually everyone stands to lose because politicization of this issue."

China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi:

"The coronavirus needs origin-tracing, and so does the political virus, said Wang.

"'Yet the US, long being obsessed with hegemony, and the one that has forced international organizations to probe others, is unlikely to change its attitude because of the international petition,' said Li, noting that the US refusal to subject itself to a WHO virus origins probe exposes its hypocrisy and condescension." [My Emphasis]

The Chinese launched an online petition drive that has garnered 13 Million signatures:

"However, the petition was attacked by multiple US IP addresses Saturday night as the number of signatures approached 10 million. Responding to the cyberattack, Zhao Lijian said that the US owes Chinese netizens an explanation on why it remains silent on opening the Fort Detrick lab for investigation and why it launched a cyberattack against the online petition.

"The US is ignoring a request from 13 million Chinese people, and deliberately dodging questions on the Fort Detrick lab, Zhao remarked. 'The US presents itself as 'transparent,' where is your transparency now?'

"About a week ago, the US together with its allies accused China of launching large-scale cyberattacks against Western countries. But the cyberattack from the US on the petition has exposed its double-standards on the issue of cybersecurity and exposed the US as a threat to cybersecurity, Zhao continued." [My Emphasis]

Keeping all the above from being reported on by Western Media further reinforces the Chinese perception that the Outlaw US Empire has something to hide; and those of us in the know would strongly agree. The world has two Pariah Nations and one major Pariah Institution--the UK, USA, and NATO--that must have their behaviors massively altered, while the institution must be dismantled. This situation was rising prior to the pandemic which caused it to arise earlier than it would have otherwise, much like the economic malaise that the pandemic exposed. (I omitted Occupied Palestine from the list since it's actually small potatoes in the current drama.)

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 26 2021 15:42 utc | 113

Been watching the Olympics and not hitting the news lately.
The opening ceremony sucks but the events aren't half bad.

Posted by: Smith | Jul 26 2021 15:44 utc | 114

Breaking (but not surprising) news:

Yuan becomes No.3 global currency: report

The Renminbi strengthened in all fronts: as means of payment, as reserve currency (reserve of value; hoarding of wealth) and (by inference) as unit of accountancy.

Posted by: vk | Jul 26 2021 15:44 utc | 115

Hoo woooow, I just catch the news.
The japanese just beat the chinese in table tennis, breaking their winning streak in Olympic since forever:
https://news.yahoo.com/japan-upsets-china-table-tennis-134402105.html

Posted by: Smith | Jul 26 2021 15:47 utc | 116

@Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 26 2021 15:18 utc | 112

The US gov is performing Opportunistic Blame Gaming (not an Olympic sport, yet).

And if the blame-finger for Covid were to come around and bite the Pentagon in the ass?
If the Pentagon couldn't shake the blame they would cover-up the intent and planned release
by playing dumb and going for the "incompetence" excuse.

They have done it before.

Never be surprised by incompetence, and never be surprised when incompetence is used as a cover-up
for intentional acts and never be surprised when said cover-up is believed.

Recall the anthrax fiasco and what happened there.

Pentagon Blames Anthrax Fiasco on No One
https://www.thedailybeast.com/pentagon-blames-anthrax-fiasco-on-no-one

For over a decade, the U.S. military shipped a deadly biological agent around the globe.
But the Pentagon can’t find a single ‘root cause’ for this monumental goof.

****What the article doesn't ask is how no one on the receiving end of those shipments noticed
a problem for over a decade.****

The article itself played the Pentagon's game and promoted the incompetence angle.


A Pentagon report designed to explain how a military lab sent live anthrax to 86 locations worldwide could not find a “single root cause” for the worst biosafety mishap in decades. Nor does the report finger any individual or group for the blunder, The Daily Beast has learned.

Instead, the report blames the shipments of deadly bacteria to 21 states and seven nations over the last decade on the lack of a common scientific standard for killing anthrax, also known as bacillus anthracis. It’s a claim that some experts rejected as an attempt to whitewash sloppy military practices.

Posted by: librul | Jul 26 2021 15:55 utc | 117

China's not afraid to give the Outlaw US Empire "What For" as this report on today's meeting between Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Xie Feng with US Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman reveals:

"The fundamental reason for the deadlock in China-US relations is that some in the US always see China as an 'imaginary enemy....'

"'Washington has been trying to contain China, thinking that will solve its problems as if the only way for the US to become great again is to contain China's development....'

"He went on to say that in order to suppress China, the US will not hesitate to start conflicts. 'To settle whatever the US wants to settle, and to get whatever the US intends to have, it has been seeking unilateral benefits all along. How can there be such a rule where one does all the bad deeds but takes all the benefits?'

"The so-called 'rules-based international order' put forward by the US is a disguise that packages rules set up by a few Western countries. It is the US version of the 'law of the jungle' where it abandons the widely accepted international law and trample on the international system, so that it can profit and bully others, Xie noted....

"The US has no right to claim it's the representative of democracy and human rights when it has committed genocide against the indigenous people, left a death toll of over 620,000 people from ineffective COVID-19 response, and provoked wars globally using lies and its military forces." [My Emphasis]

As these three items show very clearly, China is no longer afraid to use its rhetorical muscle to call out the Outlaw US Empire's crimes and complete lack of civility. And we know many other nations will second China's objections and condemnations. However, I don't expect Biden to alter course, but I do expect him to double-down just as Trump and Obama have since it's that's the Empire's way--particularly with the domestic crisis boiling hotter daily.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 26 2021 16:04 utc | 118

librul @117--

The article you cite shows the partnership between government and media to further that specific BigLie. Did you catch vk's comment @105?

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 26 2021 16:12 utc | 119

When the "oppressed" becomes the oppressor:

Why Lithuania needs a small, invincible war with China

For Lithuania, China is a continuation of the USSR
[...]
Nikolai Mezhevich noted that Lithuania's anti-Chinese position "was always", because "not very well versed in the specifics of the red color and the number of gold stars on the Chinese flag, Lithuanians perceive China as a kind of continuation of the Soviet Union."

It was never about "communist oppression", wasn't it?

The reason why East Europe invented the myth of communist oppression (Soviet imperialism) is the same why Putin has unearthed Lev Gumilev: the region is still trying to cope with the dissolution of the USSR and their consequent submission to capitalism from the West. They're still trying to legitimize to their own peoples the shitty situation they're still into 30 years after. They're the farcical version of Homer, writing an epic about a long-gone glorious era - except that in this case the epic sucks, it's just a bad-taste joke.

Posted by: vk | Jul 26 2021 16:13 utc | 120

thanks b.... thanks to the many fine posters here too.... @ jen, blues, paco, migeljose - thanks for saying all that..@ lysias - first post... i like your transparency... it is interesting how 2 people can come to a different conclusion based off what appears like the same information..

Posted by: james | Jul 26 2021 16:18 utc | 121

some different music for anyone interested.... paco - sounds a bit like metheny, but completely different composer...

track 18 off Novo Brasil Points Of View -Nando Lauria

Posted by: james | Jul 26 2021 16:23 utc | 122

karlof1 @112

While the Chinese are correct to view "Biden's troop as worse [more stupid] than Trump's", it is my opinion that the details are more complex (and details are important! Sometimes...)

The individuals that Trump surrounded himself with were, as individuals, more stupid than the ones wiping Biden's chin and changing his Depends and administering his amphetamines and antipsychotics when he needs to be seen in public. The difference is that Trump himself is smarter than Biden, but more importantly Trump tried to actually be a leader.

"Whatever you want me to do, Nance" is something Trump would never have said, or even thought to say.

Trump's efforts were sabotaged every step of the way and at every level of government, but his efforts were consistent and fairly clearly stated. Trump wasn't big on ambiguity. He was about as subtle as a sledgehammer. Biden's policy, on the other hand, is even more ambiguous than Obama's. Of course, Biden's ambiguity is the result of his awareness of his surroundings being ambiguous, while Obama's ambiguity was a calculated political strategy (keep everyone guessing and since he is a Black Harvard grad who did a year - exactly a year to the day - as a community organizer then everyone will give him the benefit of the doubt).

In any case, Biden's "team" makes the decisions, not Biden. That "team" is a very "diverse" one, each team member with their own agenda and pulling in a different direction. The result is confused, disjoint, and contradictory policy. Stupid policy, in other words.

That's part of how Trump ends up looking better than Biden, anyway.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 26 2021 16:30 utc | 123

The 1st world does not know how to build hospitals away from flooding impact?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57965298

Posted by: Mina | Jul 26 2021 16:49 utc | 124

Coup in Tunisia
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/417758/World/Region/Police-shut-Al-Jazeera-TVs-Tunis-office.aspx
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/417759/World/Region/BREAKING-Tunisias-president-sacks-defence,-acting-.aspx

The BBC has on its frontpage a pic of a Tunisian guy in a protest last night wearing a communist insigna... it won't last.
The coup author is no else than ... the president. He ousted this guy yesterday, whose name hardly appears in the reports because he was just a low profile civil servant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hichem_Mechichi

And.. conveniently, the author of the attack of Mali president (chief of junte) died in custody. He must have been manipulated from far above to act on the very same day as other attacks in Afghanistan and Iraq (1st Eid al Adha day)

Posted by: Mina | Jul 26 2021 16:57 utc | 125

My mistake! I wrote 'protest' but according to the French media, these were demonstrations of support for the president.
I'll look for more.

Posted by: Mina | Jul 26 2021 17:11 utc | 126

William Gruff @123--

Thanks for your reply! Lots of desert dust mingling with the fog as Escobar's latest informs us:

"At the Central Asia-South Asia 2021 meeting in Tashkent, right after the SCO meeting in Dushanbe, something quite intriguing happened: the birth of a new Quad (forget that one in the Indo-Pacific).

"This is how it was spun by the Afghan Ministry of Foreign Affairs[Link at original]: a 'historic opportunity to open flourishing international trade routes, [and] the parties intend to cooperate to expand trade, build transit links and strengthen business-to-business ties.'

"If that sounds like something straight out of the Belt and Road Initiative, well, here’s the confirmation by the Pakistani Foreign Office:

"'Representatives of the United States, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan agreed in principle to establish a new quadrilateral diplomatic platform focused on enhancing regional connectivity. The parties consider long-term peace and stability in Afghanistan critical to regional connectivity and agree that peace and regional connectivity are mutually reinforcing.'

"The US doing Belt and Road right into China’s alley? A State Department tweet confirmed it [Tweet and link at original]. Call it a geopolitical case of 'if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em.'"

Reminds me of the Roger Ramjet theme song:

"Roger Ramjet and his Eagles
Fighting for our freedom
Fly through in and outer space
Not to join ’em but to beat em." [My Emphasis]

Pepe isn't fooled by this latest ploy:

"The question is what Washington aims to accomplish with this new Quad – for the moment just on paper. Simple: to throw a monkey wrench into the works of the SCO, led by Russia-China, and the main forum organizing a possible solution for the Afghan drama.

"In this sense, the US versus Russia-China competition in the Afghan theater totally fits the Build Back Better World (B3W) gambit, which aims – at least in thesis – to offer an alternative infrastructure plan to Belt and Road and pitch it to nations from the Caribbean and Africa to the Asia-Pacific." [My Emphasis]

No nation should be fooled by the lie that the Outlaw US Empire wants to help them as its past behavior is the best predictor of what will happen next.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 26 2021 17:14 utc | 127

@snake #106
There are groups of oligarchs that *want* to control.

Actual control is very different, however.

Call it friction, call it inertia, call it bureaucracy, call it whatever you want - it is difficult to get large groups of people to do anything they don't already want to do.

This phenomena is an order of magnitude worse for groups of individuals with power and/or money - it is the main reason why these globe-spanning conspiracies are highly unlikely except in the sense of specific shared interests.

Then there are the phenomena of accident, ego, jealousy, etc.

I do find it amusing that so many posters are against religion.

Yes, religion can and has been abused. But it is far from clear to me why it is a net negative, overall. The Catholic church today is not the same as the Catholic church, pre-Reformation, nor is it the same even from 30 years ago. It has changed and continues to change. While I am not religious, I have both been educated in basic Christian theology (went to a Catholic school for a few years) and have studied the practice and theory of Catholic dogma for some time.

I don't see anything inherently evil or even negative about it - and also know many people who are genuinely good people regardless of their religion. Whether Catholicism helps them be that way or is a symptom is irrelevant.

I don't see the secular "religions" being any different: Communism has killed a lot of people, yet there are also communists who truly do believe and work for a better life for everyone. The same can be said for any creed: very few of the time tested ones have no redeeming qualities in some way.

Ultimately it is power structures that lead to abuse - and it is inevitable regardless of the credo in question. Tibetans slaughtered tens of thousands, if not more, in the name of Buddhism just as the Crusades and Islamic Jihad have done the same.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 26 2021 17:20 utc | 128

The ability of COVID-19 to irreversibly reduce the level of intelligence has been confirmed

The experiment involved 81,337 people, ...

There were also comparisons of viewers of various TV channels and those who do not viewing of them, and the results were so gruesome that they remain secret [but I had a rare chance to see them!]

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jul 26 2021 17:21 utc | 129

Honduras: Former Lawmaker Echeverria Shot to Death (teleSUR, July 26, 2021)

On Sunday, former lawmaker Carolina Echeverria was killed by gunmen who assaulted her residence in Tegucigalpa, Honduras. Her husband was seriously wounded.

Echeverria, who was a congresswoman from 2006 to 2010, died of gunshot wounds, according to a preliminary report from security forces. Her husband, retired Colonel Andres Urtecho, who is receiving medical care in a private hospital, was wounded in the alleged robbery.

"Deeply shocked by the death of our colleague Carolina Echeverria. The authorities must investigate, find and punish those responsible. We wish her husband a speedy recovery," said Liberal Party presidential candidate Yani Rosenthal, who in August 2020 returned from the U.S., where he served a three-year prison sentence for assets associated with drug trafficking.

Before her death, Echeverria aspired to be again lawmaker for the Liberal Party, the second opposition force in the Central American country. On November 28, 2021, Hondurans will elect president, three vice presidents, 298 mayors, 128 national lawmakers, and 20 lawmakers for the Central American Parliament.

TeleSUR is the only English-language media outlet to report this assassination. RIA Novosti provides more details:

Bandits disguised as doctors kill famous woman politician in Honduras (RIA Novosti, July 26, 2021 — in Russian)

The bandits, dressed as doctors, under the guise of detecting cases of COVID-19, entered the house of the famous Honduran female politician Carolina Echeverria and killed her, according to the local newspaper El Tiempo.

A group of people, a woman and four men, arrived at Echeverria’s house in the capital Tegucigalpa on Sunday evening, police said. They asked if there were COVID-19 patients in the house. Once inside, they started shooting at the owner and her husband. It is noted that the bandits were dressed in pink uniforms of medical workers. Echeverria was killed and her husband, a retired police colonel, was seriously injured.

The police have already managed to detain one of the suspects. It is assumed that the motive for the attack on the house of the former MP was a robbery attempt.

Carolina Echeverria was one of the prominent leaders of the Liberal Party, and was a member of the National Congress (Parliament) in 2006–2010. In 2016, she attempted to run for the presidency, but was not registered.

Posted by: S | Jul 26 2021 18:02 utc | 130

Thanks Grieved @ 76. Your comment generously aligns with my own understanding that the Fathers of the Church, (which was both eastern and western in its origin until the tenth century) studied, many of them, ancient philosophy which they valued highly. I was reading recently that even Plato could see a distinction between Socrates and Aristotle, which also in my own mind seems an obvious one - Bernard Suzanne writes in one of his essays:

"I cannot admit the assumption that the simplistic theory that Aristotle criticizes as Plato's so-called 'theory of forms' was actually what Plato held, and that Aristotle was better at interpreting Plato than Plato himself just because he was posterior to him...in fact I hold to the contrary that Plato was much better than Aristotle at understanding others' theories from the inside and criticizing them on their own premises ...and that it is no coincidence if the pale interlocutor of Parmenides in the dialogue that bears his name is another Aristotle...

Bernard Suzanne is, by the way Catholic by faith. I agree with him on this point, and it is an important one.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 26 2021 18:32 utc | 131

Also with respect to the ancients, Plutarch observes:

When the enemy tried to cut off his (Julius Caesar’s) fleet, he was forced to repel the danger by using fire, and this spread from the dockyards and destroyed the great library.
(Plutarch, The Life of Julius Caesar, 49.6)

Again, what is posterior tends to fail, I am sorry, to convince me differently.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 26 2021 18:36 utc | 132

Yes... the so called study on covid and intelligence sounds like the perfect fog to cover the devastating effect of lockdowns and intensive use of screens.
Mauritius announced 1000 case last week BUT almost entirely asymptomatics... That part is not on all the reports I ve seen. So vit. D and their diet seem pretty efficient (or was it just the absence of pollution?)

Same oddity in Europe, with Belgium in the middle of France, Netherlands and Germany who all have alarming increase, but not Belgium. Could be that to have caught it wild and large during the 1st wave gave enough antibodies to all.

Posted by: Mina | Jul 26 2021 18:38 utc | 133

Nature news report that might be available to everyone titled "DeepMind’s AI predicts structures for a vast trove of proteins". It is about AlphaFold (from Alphabet ie. "old Google") creating an openly available database of currently 365000 and soon to be 130 million protein structures including most human proteins.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 26 2021 18:57 utc | 134

Since their website (linked within the previous Nature link) is so good and explanatory I'm sharing the link to "AlphaFold Protein Structure Database" and recommend a look to absolutely everyone: AlphaFold PS DB

The license they chose for the data is Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 (CC-BY 4.0).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 26 2021 19:08 utc | 135

@vetinLA | Jul 26 2021 1:49 utc | 71
Norwegian | Jul 26 2021 6:26 utc | 85

"The solution is simple; Make up your own religion, cause' they did. Why not?
Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jul 26 2021 7:41 utc | 89

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It is clear that you are the only person responsible for yourself and your own religious beliefs. It doesn’t really matter which religion you choose or inherit. The end, your physical ending, must be thought of as the conclusion of what you think and how you live. You cannot “blame” anyone else or any religion, it will simply be too late.

You can only “get to” what you believe in.
If you really don’t believe in anything, then how can you “arrive” anywhere?

But for this to be true, it is necessary to separate religion from personal thought processes. The latter (PTP) seems to be based on “God” or the “VALIS is the Vast Active Living Intelligence System”, (blues | @ | 58), or whatever is Supreme. (Beyond human comprehension by definition). The former (the religions) are constructed by people who tailor-made them to suit their own requirements. Which were then “translated” and otherwise presented to reflect the civilization or lack of, of the day.

Call it priestly self-serving. The Christians of feudal times invented Purgatory so people would look up to them for “salvation” in the NOW, to avoid the “punishment” that was supposed to happen before the “judgement”. God comes off second best after the priestly rectitude had had its say (and tithes had been paid). The Egyptians had a “book of the dead” to wallow through. There are two versions of the “ten commandments” (+ Noahide laws are seven, and since the “first version” presented to the tribes below was destroyed as well, I get the impression that Moses was running up and down the mountainside like a bearded goat, but I digress). The Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists etc. all have their own priestly class to interpret sacred writings. To dictate a “code”, and laws and rules that suits them.

You can see I reject the idea that “belonging” to one group ensures salvation by itself. But I see no problem with anyone having a religion or even which religion. (I might have reservations about the lengths people will go to to force their own version on others)

So how can a single person relate to their own impending “ever-afters”?
i.e. By individually finding a way to relate to the fundamentals that have become apparent over time, possibly after false starts, but are summed up as the -
“To learn”.
of; Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 26 2021 1:28 utc | 67
or the - “Why?”.
of; blues | Jul 26 2021 0:13 utc | 58
or the;
"I walk in forest and hear the bird call and wind sound through treetops and request Gaea for another 400 hundred years to learn and love this world and her heavens".
by: uncle tungsten | Jul 26 2021 7:24 utc | 88

You may not find all the answer, but sometimes you can progress .
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Resurrection is implied for those that believe in it. Eternity is reserved for others to contemplate what could have been. The She’ol (Limbo) is a long wait for a messiah.
Paradise or paradise lost? I’ll tell you if I come back.
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I may be sounding too dogmatic, but I had to be shown what I had been missing for many years.
*******

Quotes from my favourite mystique.

"Accomplissez toutes vos actions sans une raison. La vie se vit pour elle-même et pour aucune autre raison… L’amour n’a pas de pourquoi."

Another quote of Maitre Eckhart (c. 1260 - c. 1328. Dominican) which about sums up his thoughts on priests and religion .

"D’aucuns veulent voir Dieu avec leurs yeux, comme ils voient une vache, et L’aimer comme ils aiment leur vache –pour le lait, le fromage et le profit qu’elle leur rapporte".

He reckoned that everyone and everything has a “divine spark” in them, which since this included women, did not go down well with his hierarchy. (He also started the Beguines, a form of religious devotion for women which was not tied to an approved religious order). He had to recant and the women were sent to Convents.

One last quote ; "Si tu remerciais la vie pour toutes les joies qu'elle te donne, il ne te resterait plus de temps pour te plaindre".

Posted by: Stonebird | Jul 26 2021 19:15 utc | 136

c1ue | Jul 26 2021 14:01 utc | 102

Peat bogs. Could become useful nowadays for carbon retention. BUT, private land ownership is the problem. The dispossession of users of the “commons lands”, in favour of the rich is not going to be easy to reverse. ie. ALL common land in the UK had to be “claimed” in the early 60’s. Villages and churches (as entities) became owners, or the local aristocracy took it upon themselves to give it a new “outlook”. Putting the plebs back in their place by controlling grazing. Rights-of way remained though.
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In one report about Oil, a proposed deep bio layer would have been only about 1-5 mm thick. This was presumed to be enough to start a reaction leading to abiotic oil further towards the surface...... Inconclusive for the moment.

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Piotr Berman | Jul 26 2021 17:21 utc | 129

"The ability of COVID-19 to irreversibly reduce the level of intelligence has been confirmed"
That’s a mere pittance compared to the effect TV has on intelligence.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jul 26 2021 19:18 utc | 137

New evidence resolves the controversy surrounding the 2013 Syria sarin attack (Rootclaim, June 18, 2021)


Responsibility for the 2013 chemical attack has been a hotly contested, politically divisive issue, with a wide consensus in the West that the Syrian government was to blame, while Syria and its allies claimed that it was a “false flag” opposition attack, intended to bring about US intervention.

Rootclaim’s 2017 analysis went against this Western consensus, calculating an 87% likelihood that the Syrian opposition carried out the attack. Following the discoveries discussed below, this has now been updated to 96%, one of our most certain conclusions.

Posted by: S | Jul 26 2021 19:29 utc | 138

Many will find this Lavrov interview informative, but I want to shout out to juliania and strongly suggest it to her since it focuses on His Eminence Metropolitan Hilarion, the Russian Orthodox Church, the Orthodox Universe, efforts to undermine it, and clear hypocrisy from the EU when it comes to equality of religions. It's the latter topic I chose to highlight:

"We have many joint projects [Russia's MFA and Russian Orthodox Church]. One of the most important of them currently is the protection of Christians, especially in the Middle East and North Africa. Working together with the DECR for many years, we hold a special forum in support of Christians on the sidelines of OSCE and UN Human Rights Council events. This forum is attended by our partners from the Vatican, the Holy See, and the foreign ministers of Armenia, Hungary, Belarus, Lebanon and other countries, who are aware of the current threats to a normal, peaceful and safe life of Christians in the Middle East. Hundreds of thousands of them had to flee their homes when efforts to enforce 'democracy' were taken there, first in Iraq and subsequently in Libya and Syria. Christians have been affected especially painfully during the conflict in Syria, one of the world’s cradles of Christianity.

"We must raise our voice not just to attract the attention of the international community to this problem, but to take practical measures to stop the persecution of Christians. This is extremely important. But our Western colleagues have taken a different stand. Although Christians constitute the majority of their populations, we have been unable for the past six years to ensure the adoption of an OSCE document on the protection of Christians and Muslims in Europe by the international community – a declaration on combating Christianophobia and Islamophobia. We proposed this long ago, after the adoption of the Declaration on Enhancing Efforts to Combat Anti-Semitism. We pointed out the importance of consistency and combating any religious phobias. So far, the 'enlightened' West has been preventing the adoption of this initiative." [My Emphasis]

The US Constitution says the government's not to interfere when it comes to matters of religion; however, it does so constantly outside its borders where it assumes its own laws don't apply to itself. Lavrov provides this very curious report that you'll never read in BigLie Media:

"Question: I asked, if there were many people who envy him? He replied: Yes, many. And those hating the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC)? He said, there was no shortage of them. Then he started speaking about Ukraine and the Patriarch of Constantinople. In this sense, can we compare the pressure being brought to bear on you and him? Do you think he finds it hard to serve in this position these days in the context of the Ukrainian schism?

"Sergey Lavrov: On the face of it, this is being presented as a movement for each Orthodox people having the right of choice. All of us are well aware of how the Orthodox Church of Ukraine (OCU) was created. It was not just an initiative suggested by Patriarch of Constantinople Bartholomew. It was directly dictated by the United States. By and large, they do not conceal this fact themselves. The US Ambassador-at-Large for International Religious Freedom appointed by the previous administration was doing things that were directly opposite to his mandate. He was undermining the freedom of religion and imposing organisational parameters (to use the bureaucratic idiom) on different local churches. He was destroying the unity of the Orthodox believers of Russia and Ukraine and creating in Ukraine a schismatic and, in effect, powerless church. He was also destroying the unity of the Church of Antioch and attempting to wean from it the Lebanese Orthodox believers. The same is happening with regard to the canonical territory of the Serbian Orthodox Church.

"We are clearly aware that Constantinople’s actions that are being directly manipulated by Washington have nothing in common with the ideals of Orthodoxy and the traditions that form the basis, upon which the collaboration between the local churches has always been organised. This collaboration is being crudely disrupted. This is pressure in the sense that it requires efforts to oppose this sort of absolutely unacceptable actions. We fully support the ROC. We have many joint projects for interaction with Russian compatriots. The ROC parishes in other countries are helping to guide a huge number of parishioners. This means an additional opportunity to support people, who would like to keep their ties with their historical homeland. This compares to what we are doing in our secular line through our embassies, consulates and Russian cultural centres abroad, which, among other things, help them maintain ties with the ROC." [My Emphasis]

The attempts by the Outlaw US Empire to destabilize and destroy extends to the religion and culture of any and all that will help it keep its hegemonic position. One can term that a Global Violation of Human Rights and in some specifics Cultural Genocide.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 26 2021 19:46 utc | 139

@Posted by: librul | Jul 26 2021 15:15 utc | 110

I archived the link that show a person that worked for the CIA for 33 years
is now a high mucky-muck at Reuters.

Used Wayback Machine
and tried archive.is as well. It had already been archived 7 months ago.

Reuters isn't just a servant of the CIA it is master&servant.

HT to vk

Posted by: librul | Jul 26 2021 20:08 utc | 141

Thank you, karlof1 at 189, I will open your link with interest. That change with respect to the introduction of an Ukranian Orthodox schism came about roughly midway between the coup in Kiev and current deliberations, so for a start I would say Lavrov's highlighting of this matter has the quality of the Russian charges and their dismissal by the European court -- things are being brought to public record in the way of direct charges against US 'strategic incursions' dotting the i's and crossing the t's. The Orthodox in the US have three main streams - Russian Outside of Russia, Antiochian and Ecumenical (Constantinople)/OCA. Mostly they harmonize, since their original founders have mostly become elderly or left the scene. I would however say that any Orthodox believer is not beholden to any specific channel of belief other than the Creed which all profess. There is not a single authority or spokesperson for the Church as a whole. So while Constantinople is considered senior in terms much similar to those which would be accorded to Rome were it of the same understanding in faith matters, it is not as the Pope is or can be for Catholics, the infallible head of the Church.

Even so, the new 'arrangement' must have imposed considerable stress upon Ukrainian Orthodox, who had been used to having the Russian Church as its hierarchical head.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 26 2021 22:35 utc | 142

South Korean politics closely resemble the USA. This report at New Eastern Outlook takes some following but it gives an insight to the depths of institutionalised corruption.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 26 2021 22:52 utc | 143

Again thanks, karlof1 @ 189, I was delighted to see the occasion of the interview was as Metropolitan Hilarion celebrates his 50th birthday. At hilarion.ru/en his biography includes the following:

From 1997 to 1999 he gave lectures in Dogmatic theology at St. Vladimir’s Theological Seminary in New York (USA) and in Mystical theology of the Eastern Church at the Department of Theology of the University of Cambridge (UK).

In 1999 he was awarded the degree of Doctor of Theology by the St. Sergius Orthodox Theological Institute in Paris for the dissertation “Life and Teaching of St. Gregory the Theologian”.

The now deceased priest of my former little family church in Santa Fe had his own education in conjunction with St. Sergius Institute, his father having been one of the founders of same. The Orthodox world is like a family - thanks for the reminder!

Posted by: juliania | Jul 26 2021 22:59 utc | 144

Yet another commission of Inquiry into Palestine. I could make a list of previous 'inquiries', their bias and failures:

https://johnmenadue.com/john-menadue-human-rights-in-occupied-palestinian-territory-including-east-jerusalem-and-israel-to-be-examined/

As if the world can't see or rather won't see what is occurring.

Remember UN mediator Count Folke Bernadotte, cousin of the King of Sweden, blatantly murdered by the zionists days after he landed in Palestine. Of course nothing was done about his preliminary recommendations or murder.

Posted by: Paul | Jul 26 2021 23:26 utc | 145

I posted this link to a very large repository of Soviet-era science texts covering most subjects and translated into English quite awhile ago and decided to do so again. The page says there are 617 uploads/books in the collection, so it's a small library all by itself. They range from children's books to serious adult texts on physics, engineering and more. What's even better, as an Archive member, they're free to download, and membership's free!

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 27 2021 0:14 utc | 146

This week's Alastair Crooke essay goes into the subject of duality and its treatment by the ancients, who were very much aware of such things as opposed to us modern folk sheltered inside for most of our lives. That he works into his initial topic of "Narrative warfare," which as usual makes us think.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 27 2021 0:41 utc | 147

Could this be the beginning of a trend? "Burundi Stands Up to Foreign Mining Firms, Bans Rare Earth Exports Without Better Profit-Sharing".

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 27 2021 1:02 utc | 148

Posted by: james | Jul 26 2021 16:23 utc | 122

Thanks a lot for that nice piece of music, I listened to a few cuts last night refreshing myself outside. Busy trying to bring back to life an old Mac, awful to lose so much time bypassing all the barriers that the monopolists turned computing into. If all the time spent in transient traps and barriers would have been spent learning the basics we all would be specialists, but the trap of "what can I do for you today" did it to all of us.

Cheers, beautiful music, a bit sad since it is crowd music, evoques sweating, touching, getting close to each other which has become a thing of the past.

Cut Nº20 truly sounds like Metheny, it is sort of like a fretless sound.

Posted by: Paco | Jul 27 2021 8:38 utc | 149

This was from one of the last comments in the previous China thread. "Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the USA, for its pig-headed reliance on customary units, is the very first English-speaking one to adopt decimal currency? ($1 = 10 dimes = 100 cents = 1000 mills)"

The US standard that they US for their imperial length measurement system is the French metre which is now the world standard. Inches to the metre ect. That is what precision US imperial length measurements are based on. Once they go below the inch measurement however, it reverts to the decimal system - tenths, hundreds thousandths ect. 0.1" 0.001 0.0001 and so on.

Most of the world engineering wise now operates on the metric system. ISO standards, whereas US still operate on US standards.
Even if US was to return its manufacturing to America, it could not compete on world trade unless it uses the metric ISO standards.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 27 2021 9:17 utc | 150

Journos *are* CIA.

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(Thomson Reuters owns the Reuters news service)

I had archived the link @110 (see @141) but it occurred to me that as the linked material is so short that I could archive it here as well.

The CIA has done way more than infiltrated the news media. Their agents are highly placed and well able to seed (hire) their agents throughout.
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https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en-us/posts/authors/dawn-scalici/


(about)
Dawn Scalici
Government Global Business Director

Dawn Scalici joined Thomson Reuters in July 2015 to serve as the company’s first Government Global Business Director. She is charged with the responsibility of advancing Thomson Reuters’ ability to meet the disparate needs of the U.S. Government—working across the company’s major business lines and optimally leveraging its vast and unique data, products, and services. In this capacity she develops strategic relationships with government sector constituents and key decision-makers, develops campaigns to promote Thomson Reuters’ business growth, and works with the company’s senior executives to determine relevant strategic goals and plans.

Prior to joining Thomson Reuters, Ms. Scalici served 33 years with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). In her last federal assignment, she served as the National Intelligence Manager for the Western Hemisphere within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI). In this role, she was responsible for overseeing national intelligence for an area of responsibility spanning from the Arctic to the tip of South America, including the US Homeland.

Ms. Scalici serves on the Board of Directors for the Association for International Risk Intelligence Professionals and on the Board of Advisors of the Momentum Aviation Group (MAG). She also serves on the Intelligence Committee of the Arms Forces Communications and Electronics Association (AFCEA) and the Homeland Security Intelligence Council of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance (INSA).

Posted by: librul | Jul 27 2021 12:38 utc | 151

@ 149 paco - thanks... a friend turned me onto him... it sounds very much like metheny.. i wonder who influenced who??

good luck reviving the old mac... i was thinking of how much we have today, looking at the bath tub this morning... i was thinking how kings and queens of the past might not have had what we have today - running water and etc. etc.. we have much to be thankful for, but that trap you refer to is ongoing... it seems no matter how much people have, it is never enough!! enjoy the day!

@ 151 librul... you have probably seen this, but if not - regarding the cia owning journalists and etc - see the picture inside the link..
https://swprs.org/the-propaganda-multiplier/

Posted by: james | Jul 27 2021 14:47 utc | 152

@ Bemildred | Jul 27 2021 16:10 utc | 153
Thank for this link
On US-China... thread, b. ask:


How long then will it take until the U.S. recognizes that and steps down from its illusion of supremacy?

The link provided in your #153 is part of the answer.

Posted by: Rêver | Jul 27 2021 16:33 utc | 154

@ Bemildred | Jul 27 2021 16:10 utc | 153
On US-China... thread, b. ask:


How long then will it take until the U.S. recognizes that and steps down from its illusion of supremacy?

The link provided in your #153 is part of the answer.

Posted by: Rêver | Jul 27 2021 16:34 utc | 155

@ Bemildred
Forgot "thanks for the link"

Posted by: Rêver | Jul 27 2021 16:36 utc | 156

b. ask:


How long then will it take until the U.S. recognizes that and steps down from its illusion of supremacy?

The link provided by Bemildred | Jul 27 2021 16:10 utc | 153

#153 is part of the answer.

Not so long-term

Posted by: Rêver | Jul 27 2021 16:38 utc | 157

Posted by: Rêver | Jul 27 2021 16:36 utc | 154, 155

Thank you. I think that it is a main reason for the readjustment of forces going on, but of course appearances must be maintained. If you pay attention to that sort of thing, then you know the US military is in the middle of a readjustment too. I think the light has been slowly dawning in Washington DC (parts of it anyway) since the Iranians shot down our drone.

Similar debacles have occurred from time to time in our wargames with Iran too.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 27 2021 16:42 utc | 158

when pseudo-scientific studies rule the world

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/07/26/does-covid-cause-brain-damage/

Posted by: Mina | Jul 27 2021 17:31 utc | 159

@ Bemildred | Jul 27 2021 16:42 utc | 158

I just read again Thierry Meyssan's "Sous Nos Yeux". I think he was really good informed in 2015, living in Damas. [do you read it on ReseauVoltaire?]
The Russians were very impressive in Krimea 2014 and Syria 2015,the real professionals in US Forces have been convinced very quickly.
But managing the down sizing is dangerous time too.

Posted by: Rêver | Jul 27 2021 20:16 utc | 160

Posted by: Rêver | Jul 27 2021 20:16 utc | 160

I read voltaire.net regularly some years back, I visit once in a while now. He is very interesting on Middle Eastern politics, and "Sous Nos Yeux" also, but drank the KoolAid on Trump. So he's OK but I don't follow much at the moment.

Re "downsizing", I think we are lucky Trump lost, in that respect. Biden and the people around him appears to retain some "reality based" views. Trump, whatever else you can say about him, is an idiot when it comes to international affairs.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 27 2021 20:38 utc | 161

Drone Whistleblower Daniel Hale Sentenced to 45 Months in Prison 'For Exposing US War Crimes' (Common Dreams, Kenny Stancil, July 27, 2021)

Human rights and press freedom advocates expressed dismay on Tuesday when whistleblower Daniel Hale, who pled guilty earlier this year to violating the Espionage Act, was sentenced to 45 months in prison for sharing with a journalist classified information about the U.S. military's drone assassination program.

"He committed the offense to bring attention to what he believed to be immoral government conduct committed under the cloak of secrecy and contrary to public statements of then-President [Barack] Obama regarding the alleged precision of the United States military's drone program," wrote Defense attorneys Todd Richman and Cadence Mertz.

U.S. District Judge Liam O'Grady said the 45-month prison sentence he gave Hale was necessary to "deter others from disclosing government secrets," the Associated Press reported.

"His crime was telling this truth: 90% of those killed by U.S. drones are bystanders, not the intended targets," said Snowden. "He should have been given a medal."

In May 2019, Hale was charged under the Espionage Act for leaking secret documents to a reporter widely believed to be The Intercept's Jeremy Scahill.

"These documents detailed a secret, unaccountable process for targeting and killing people around the world, including U.S. citizens, through drone strikes," Betsy Reed, editor-in-chief of The Intercept, said after Hale's indictment. "They are of vital public importance, and activity related to their disclosure is protected by the First Amendment."

According to journalist Kevin Gosztola, Hale's whistleblowing enabled The Intercept to reveal that "nearly half of the people on the U.S. government's widely shared database of terrorist suspects are not connected to any known terrorist group," detail how assassination targets ended up on Obama's "kill list," and expose new information about Bilal el-Berjawi, a Briton "who was stripped of his citizenship before being killed in a U.S. drone strike in 2012."

Hale, 33, of Nashville, Tennessee, was an Air Force intelligence analyst between 2009 and 2013. In 2012, he deployed to Afghanistan to support the U.S. Defense Department's Joint Special Operations Task Force and was responsible for identifying, tracking, and targeting "high-value" terror suspects.

The following year, when he was assigned to the NSA, Hale began communicating with a journalist. In 2014, after Hale had been honorably discharged from the Air Force and started working at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, he shared documents that contradicted the U.S. military's claims that the drone assassination program could kill "enemy combatants" with precision and minimize civilian casualties.

In a handwritten letter released last week, Hale explained that his decision to disclose top-secret information about the inner workings of U.S. drone warfare was motivated by guilt over his role in carrying out "gruesome" killings of defenseless people "from the cold comfort of a computer chair."

Posted by: S | Jul 27 2021 23:09 utc | 162

There're reports that the Indian(!) Air Force launched its first airstrike against Taliban positions in Spin Boldak County in the Afghan province of Kandahar. Indian planes reportedly took off from their secret Farcor base in Tajikistan and attacked Taliban congregations near the Afghan-Pakistani border.

Posted by: alaff | Jul 27 2021 23:33 utc | 163

@vk 105

Well quite, but again I never suggested that the Church's motives for the preservation of the Classical tradition was deliberate, humanist or well-meaning. But if we are to track the reception of classical literature and the thought of the ancient world into the Renaissance, Reformation and Enlightenment, and therefore to underpin critical theory and Marx' own thought, we need to acknowledge the Church as a vector.

I agree that the Graeco-Roman tradition in education is very latent in the contemporary world, more residual than active. I may be untypical but I did read Aristotle and Plato at school (learning Greek and Latin), studied classics at university and did a PhD on Homeric Epic. As long as there are others like-minded around me I could give two shits about the Disney version of the bible that circulates as the basis of politics and ethics today. I am happy to vanish into Greece and leave the rest to their somnambulism (Herodotus book 5 at the moment, the Ionian Revolt...).

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 27 2021 23:54 utc | 164

Bemildred and all: the solutions in the link to the US wargaming are curious. Perhaps so curious as to be deliberate misdirection.

I might not be the right person to raise these issues and maybe there are errors and misunderstandings but here are my opinions.

1. Contested logistics.
Even at a small scale something like this can quickly become very juicy and "fragile" targets both inbound and at landing sites, no matter if it is purely material or if scaled up to include people. The idea has been around for a long time, often at larger sizes than the article intends. I have popular media printed in the 1980ies translated from English originals (likely from the seventies) depicting Earth-to-Earth "dropship" warfare. Not as cartoons or science fiction but as speculative almost "pop science" imaginary realism of a future possibility. The idea seems sure to be older.

Hasn't the US learnt anything from their endless supplies delivered into (claimed or real) enemy hands?

Still this can be made to work as long as one is either far enough away from the front lines or the enemy doesn't have (enough) artillery and rockets etc. If my memory is correct I think there was a company named Kepler Space that thought about making and providing containerized quick-launch rockets for military logistics about ten or fifteen years ago.

2. Joint fires.
Requires a quite high level of real-time information sharing to be practical against moving targets and the fluidity of battle (developments, priorities, anything really), something which the wargaming supposedly proved wouldn't be available or reliable.

The US still hasn't understood "friendly fire" or blue-on-blue (or blue-on-green or whatever) and wants even more of it!?

3. JADC2
"The cloud" is in itself (and for each instance if there are several independent or overlapping systems) a virtual centralization; so if anyone gets in they're in and physical centralization or decentralization won't matter. Without communications the cloud might as well not exist.

Is the article even written in english? Do they hear or read what they're saying?

4. Information advantage (a sum of the previous three)
It all seems to be saying "we failed at this so we will do this even more, only 'better'". …guess they've been inspired by the "successes" of their own foreign policy.

Anyway in a real serious fight (an a actual war or sustained physical invasion attempt even if limited) with China, Russia, North Korea, possibly Iran, and maybe even Venezuela to some limited degree: one of the biggest and most important targets will be US satellites and (global) communication networks.

One relatively simple way of doing that might be to load a ton of puny "sounding rockets" with small warheads dispersing clouds of needles or similar. Anything that makes as much space junk as possible, and then (if one can) target the high flying stuff out at 6000 km or so (it might be possible to use sounding rockets for this as well even though they don't go that far: use them as "shotgun shell" launchers and shoot the debris into the high orbits).

Earth ends up as "the fluffy planet" :) with a vast thick surrounding field (10.000 km or more) of tiny scrap moving at orbital speeds punching holes through or making tiny craters in anything it meets.

Both China and Russia already has more suitable rockets they could use (a large field of debris was made by China some years ago when they tested one, and the US launched a heap of needles into space back in fifties or sixties or so, some of which are also still zipping about) but if they want to they can make a gazillion sounding rockets, it would be dirt cheap. A thousand for less than a single F-35? Ten thousand? Mass production drives down costs.

Perhaps even easier: places like space communications infrastructure (ie. "dishes") could be turned into scrap metal. It doesn't have to be nuclear since the dishes and antenna are delicate. If the US military uses the infrastructure for communications it is fair game. Some of the places with such dishes (like Svalbard) wouldn't even require intercontinental ballistic missiles if one could have a sub pop up with some appropriate shorter range munitions. Countries could even do that as a favor on their own initiative or as meaningful declarations of support. I doubt they wargamed that.

It sucks for all those who were not directly involved in the US warfare but at this point innocent people would already be dying elsewhere. Maybe they could give them (mostly scientists) ten or twenty minutes to run away? If it was my decision and my country was already being attacked I would deem it too much of a risk and far less people would die the faster the US ability was lost.

Conclusion: one way or another the sentiments/opinions/ideas in that article are strange.

Oh and war is dumb :)

Anyway that makes the link and article interesting! Thanks for sharing :)

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 28 2021 0:45 utc | 166

Syrian insurgents guilty of ‘red line’ 2013 sarin chemical attack, study finds (The Grayzone, Aaron Maté, July 26, 2021)

Hundreds of people were killed and thousands were wounded when sarin rockets hit multiple sites in the Syria area of Ghouta on August 21, 2013. The US and its allies publicly accused the Syrian government of responsibility, and President Obama threatened to bomb Syria in purported retaliation. But Obama ultimately pulled back after reaching an agreement with Russia to destroy Syria’s chemical weapons arsenal.

Since then, a growing body of public information has raised questions about US-led claims of Syrian government guilt. The new open-source study, published by Rootclaim, adds to this evidence.

Based on their trajectories, the study traces all seven missile impact locations back to the most likely launch spot where they all intersected: a small area within insurgent-controlled territory. This location is about 2 km from any impact site — the agreed range calculated by experts for the Volcano rockets used in the Ghouta attack.

Video footage has previously surfaced of insurgents wearing gas masks, firing Volcano rockets, and identifying themselves as members of the insurgent group Liwa Al Islam. The video matches several features of a small field that is located within that insurgent-controlled area where, the study found, the rockets were launched from. That same area, matching the field, was also the source of a little-reported sarin attack by insurgents on Syrian government forces just days after the Ghouta attack.

The study builds on previous revelations that have cast doubt on US-led claims of Syrian government guilt, and pointed instead to Syrian insurgents.

A now widely accepted study from MIT Professor Ted Postol and ex-UN weapons inspector Richard Lloyd found that the range of the Ghouta rockets was outside of Syrian government-controlled territory – making a launch from that area impossible.

Reporting in the London Review of Books, Seymour Hersh revealed that US intelligence collected evidence pointing to Syrian insurgent responsibility for Ghouta attack. The Defense Intelligence Agency reported that al-Nusra in Syria maintained a sarin production cell, “the most advanced sarin plot since al-Qaida’s pre-9/11 effort.” Tests by the British military laboratory Porton Down had found that the sarin used in Ghouta did not match the kind known to exist in the Syrian government arsenal. And US intelligence officials raised the possibility that al-Nusra in Syria had acquired sarin from Turkey in a bid to frame the Syrian government and trigger US government military intervention.

In May 2013, more than ten al-Nusra members were arrested in Turkey, reportedly carrying at least two kilograms of sarin. Two Turkish lawmakers later revealed that a probe into the government’s role in providing sarin to insurgents was compromised.

In 2016, President Obama confirmed that his Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, (along with other U.S. officials) had warned him that allegations of Syrian government responsibility in Ghouta were not a “slam dunk” – a deliberate reference to the phony intelligence that led to the Iraq war.

Posted by: S | Jul 28 2021 1:44 utc | 167

Mina | Jul 26 2021 16:57 utc | 125

Re Tunisia:

Kais Saied decision to sack Tunisia's government & dismiss the parliament is a blow to Erdogan

22:58

Tunisia’s coup; Another Obama foreign policy failure

12:35

Posted by: pogohere | Jul 28 2021 1:46 utc | 168

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 28 2021 0:45 utc | 166

You raise some good points. I don't think I will elaborate on them, other than to say that we have operated on the assumption that nobody is going to actually attack us much at least since Gulf War I. That was about the last time we showed some competence, albeit in a bad cause and against an unworthy enemy.

And I have considered it clear since we started doing it that electronicizing everything is a big mistake; and using lots of commercial product (COTS - commercial off-the-shelf software) is too, it is buggy and always has lots of "vulnerablilties", removing all those vulnerablilties costs a bundle; and so is putting military stuff in space. There is no place to hide up there, if you can't outrun them and you can't outmaneuver them, they are going to catch you, and all those electronics are going to get fried first thing once it gets serious. And we like to aggregate our forces, which does not work when the enemy has drones. And other things ...

But the bottom line is, yeah, war is dumb, the only people who win are people who stay out of it, and it's been that way for a couple hundred years now. The main problem here is that the Congress thinks of it an a meal-ticket. Or just the Congress, a bunch of sellouts, and proud of it.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 28 2021 3:01 utc | 169

Below is a link to the latest posting by Snowden and I think he makes lots of good points about computer security

https://edwardsnowden.substack.com/p/ns-oh-god-how-is-this-legal

To me it continues to be about eliminating the profit incentive that is the religion of the West and then motivations change....hopefully to be more humanistic

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 28 2021 4:42 utc | 170

Have a look at this short [1.27Minute] book review before it 'disappears' from YouTube and Amazon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVlchXNMMr8

Posted by: Paul | Jul 28 2021 6:32 utc | 171

Aussie - British Lawyer Geoffrey Robertson & Fake Magnitsky Tale

https://www.thekomisarscoop.com/2021/04/aussie-british-lawyer-geoffrey-robertson-and-his-fake-magnitsky-story/

"Doughty Chambers allegedly represents the best interests of Julian Assange."

After reading this I have my Doughts...

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jul 28 2021 7:34 utc | 172

John Gilberts

All of them - Assange Snowden Murray the wikileaks team ect are into woke / amnesty international type human rights. That is the circles they move in.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 28 2021 7:41 utc | 173

Once Upon A Time in Wuhan.... (Dr Sam Bailey of the "Virus Mania" Team)

The above video is, I believe, the most sensible and accurate about the "pandemic" that, it is alleged, started in Wuhan. It is also one of the most important videos that many of the readers of MoA (because of their inclinations) could view. Specifically, those who believe that a "virus-based bioweapon" was released (accidentally or on purpose) in Wuhan or Fort Detrick (or anywhere else), those who believe that the "virus" came from bats or bat guano in a cave, and those who believe that China is super advanced and knows what it is doing. It also points the finger at the real (and most obvious) culprit behind the "pandemic".

Did you know that Wuhan had a pre-existing major problem with pollution and pneumonia? Why is this never mentioned?

"The particle known as "SAR-Cov-2" has NEVER been shown to exist in nature

The "SARS-CoV-2" genome is a theoretical construct from a computer program

"COVID-19" PCR kits detect genetic sequences that have NEVER been shown to be specific to a virus...

They have ZERO established diagnostic specificity for clinical use

There are no specific clinical features or confirmatory investigations for the condition "COVID-19"...

So WHY is there a "vaccine" for "COVID-19"?"

Posted by: ADKC | Jul 28 2021 9:05 utc | 174

@John Gilberts | Jul 28 2021 7:34 utc | 172

Agree completely with your views on Geoffrey Robertson QC. Completely fake "human rights lawyer"

He represented Barry George who was convicted of the murder of Jill Dando in July 2001.

The "crucial evidence" was a spec of dust, which Roberson failed to challenge or even query.

Dando was actually murdered on the order of Jeffrey Archer, who was gunning for his former secretary Angela Peppiatt.


I wrote about this a few months ago


https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/02/the-moa-week-in-review-ot-2021-017.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef026bdec12d53200c#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef026bdec12d53200c


I find it VERY worrying that Julian has Roberson and his cronies on his team.

Posted by: John Cleary | Jul 28 2021 17:46 utc | 175

Thanks to karlof1 @ 147 for Alistair Crooke's essay on ancient dualism, focussing on the Egyptian understanding of same. As I age I more and more have the feeling that chance enlightenments (few and far between I must admit) don't really pass the test of being completely random. This was lovely! Yesterday I became immersed in a compilation by a well-meaning church organ online of a multitude of quotes from Christian speakers and writers on the subject of heaven and hell - specifically on the question first answered by Origen as to whether those condemned to dwell in the latter place were 'eternally damned'.

Excluding Origen, (who would have it that all, even devils and the chief devil himself, were in his opinion salvageable, and would in the fullness of eternity so be) every church-spokesperson (scrolling down through bits and bites) said that eternal damnation is . . . eternal damnation. Even the saintly Fathers I so much admire say this. Or did at one time or another.

I will say the following -- in my little Orthodox church, the one I was chrismated into and followed with my own little family for twenty years, the word 'heretic' was never spoken. I do say with Origen that I think as God desires all men to be saved, which is how our liturgy begins and ends, He is God, and so all men will be saved (which includes women, by the way). In other words, the dualism pointed to so eloquently in Alistair's essay will, in the fullness of eternity, be overcome. That's not etched in stone; it is just my opinion, and that of some others, even, in my opinion again, including the above mentioned Fathers, if perhaps only in their hearts.

I'm not ready to say definitively what happens to demons in my scenario, but as created beings they surely must have a 'back door' at some point.

My point being that all of this is speculative - it is not a dogmatic situation. Aristotle is for dogmatism, logic, mind alone, and it's hard to be otherwise on the internet when either/or is at its very foundation. All that the Nicene Creed says, after all, is:

"...I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen"

It doesn't say word one about hell or heretics.

So, that's my thought on the subject. I think it was Goethe's as well. But additionally, this would be a colorless world devoid of richness, did we not have such examples of dualism as provided in the essay. So again, many thanks!

Posted by: juliania | Jul 28 2021 21:41 utc | 176

Pfizer 0 - Sputnik 1

Compare Israel/Switzerland and their current sharp increase with
Hungary

Posted by: Mina | Jul 28 2021 22:06 utc | 177

@ juliania | Jul 28 2021 21:41 utc | 176:

How then do you explain, say, Matthew 25: 41 and 46? To say nothing of Revelations. New Testament teaching seems very much to be that damnation is eternal, and anyone maintaining otherwise would seem to be ipso facto guilty of heresy.

Not that I have a dog in the fight -- I'm very much a nonbeliever -- but I'm curious to know what I'm missing here.

Posted by: corvo | Jul 29 2021 0:31 utc | 178

This from Reuters...
" A lawyer acting for Russian businessmen Mikhail Fridman and Pyotr Aven said on Wednesday that Harper Collins had reached an agreement with them and agreed to issue an apology over aspects of a book about Vladimir Putin's Russia."

Looking into it I found this.
https://www.letterone.com/news-insight/news/2020/mikhail-fridman-petr-aven-and-german-khan-vindicated-in-decisive-victory-against-christopher-steele-in-high-court/
"Memorandum 112 contained unfounded, untrue and unverified statements about the Claimants, including allegations that they had a corrupt relationship with President Putin; that they and President Putin did mutual significant favours for each other; that they gave informal foreign policy advice to President Putin; and that they had bribed President Putin when he was Deputy Mayor of St. Petersburg in the 1990s. Mr Justice Warby has found all of these statements to be inaccurate or misleading as a matter of fact.

The Claimants commenced proceedings in London against Orbis in May 2018 to seek findings that the allegations were false and request modest damages by way of vindication"

The Steele dossier originated with I take it GCHQ in London and is now being blown away by a British court ...?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2021 7:25 utc | 179

Reading through it again, I should have quoited all the listed findings from the piece.

"The Claimants commenced proceedings in London against Orbis in May 2018 to seek findings that the allegations were false and request modest damages by way of vindication3.

In a carefully considered judgment handed down today, Mr Justice Warby has (1) found that all of the allegations were inaccurate or misleading as a matter of fact; (2) found that Orbis failed to take reasonable steps to verify the allegation that two of the Claimants, Mr Fridman and Mr Aven, used an intermediary to deliver illicit cash to Mr Putin in the 1990s; (3) awarded damages to Mr Fridman and Mr Aven by way of vindication.

In his judgment, Mr Justice Warby outlined the Claimants’ case and primary objective to have a court declare the contents of Memorandum 112 to be inaccurate, and that is what he has unequivocally and clearly done today, in spite of a number of technical DPA-related defences presented by Orbis.

Most notably, Mr Justice Warby found that:

Orbis “adduced no evidence from any witness or document which is capable of establishing the truth of any of [the challenged] statements.” (para 157).
Messrs Fridman, Aven and Khan had discharged their “burden of proof” with respect to the inaccuracy or falsity of the challenged statements. (para 160).
Mr Justice Warby also rejected the claims of Orbis, and accepted the Claimants’ unchallenged evidence that:
the Claimants do not do favours for or receive favours from Mr Putin. (paras 161-164);
Mr Fridman and Mr Aven do not provide informal foreign policy advice to Mr Putin (para 165);
Mr Fridman did not meet with Mr Putin in September 2016 (para 166);
the Claimants did not bribe Mr Putin when he was Deputy Mayor of St Petersburg (paras 167 – 168); and
Mr Fridman and Mr Aven do not do Mr Putin’s political bidding (paras 169 - 174).
Mr Justice Warby concluded that the challenged statements in the Steele Dossier “are inaccurate or misleading as a matter of fact.” (para 204, sub-para (5))."

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2021 7:32 utc | 180

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 29 2021 7:32 utc | 180

Thank you for that. It was obvious from the beginning that the "dossier" was the product of a diseased imagination, you can spot these people by the fake claims they come up with, it is always the crudest emotions they aim at, they want to humiliate, theatrically, to go right to the gut, so to speak. Pee-ing on a bed with bimbos on it in order to humiliate Obama. THIS the sort of stupid shit clueless pornographers come up with.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 29 2021 12:16 utc | 181

Slowly more countries ignoring US unilateral sanctions and embargos

Mexico Sends the Second Ship With Humanitarian Aid for Cuba

Russia sends COVID-19 aid to Cuba - defence ministry

Posted by: arby | Jul 29 2021 15:05 utc | 182

Off-Guardian is at present locked out of twitter for publishing (and refusing to remove) this tweet:

"Factcheck - Any woman young enough to get pregnant has a 99.99% chance of surviving Covid-19. The NHS website says: "There is no evidence covid can cause miscarriage or impact the development of your baby." The Vaccines are still experimental & have unknown long term side effects"

Off-Guardian posted the above in response to a Scottish Government tweet pushing the vaccination for those who are pregnant. There are many properly approved vaccines that are not permitted for pregnant women. Why or earth is a vaccine that has not gone through the normal testing regime being pushed on pregnant women and why is it so important to close down dissenting voices?

Covid “vaccines” & pregnancy: Twitter blocks OffG for telling the truth

Posted by: ADKC | Jul 29 2021 16:52 utc | 183

further to my 182--

"Max Blumenthal
@MaxBlumenthal
·
23h
Nicaragua, Mexico and Bolivia are sending food and medicine to Cuba."

Posted by: arby | Jul 29 2021 17:06 utc | 184

Bandit state murders 11 year old Palestinian boy:

https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeli_forces_shoot_and_kill_11_year_old_palestinian_boy_in_hebron


Then commits robbery on the offices of the Defence for Children International - Palestine offices. The occupation 'Border Police' are captured on VIDEO. I find it odd that the Bandit State refuses to disclose any actual 'borders' but still has a brutal and oppressive border police force, note the US supplied weapons and equipment:

https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeli_forces_raid_dcip_office_confiscate_computers_and_client_files?utm_campaign=office_raid&utm_medium=email&utm_source=dcipalestine

UGLY 'Israel' in action.

Posted by: Paul | Jul 30 2021 1:06 utc | 185

Bemildred 181

I was a bit surprised a British court was declaring it or parts of it at least, but I guess Trump is no longer considered a threat by the five-eyes deep state so they can make out their impartial. Assange on the other hand looked too far into the abyss and made too much public. His only hope is the total collapse of the five-eyes system.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 30 2021 1:50 utc | 186

Whistleblower Craig Murray Will Surrender Himself For Prison (The Dissenter, Kevin Gosztola, July 29, 2021)

In the case against former United Kingdom diplomat-turned whistleblower Craig Murray, the UK supreme court refused to hear Murray’s appeal. He will now surrender himself to police for an eight-month prison sentence.

The High Court in Edinburgh in Scotland convicted Murray of contempt on March 25 after concluding that he published several blog posts, which they believe led people to identify witnesses in the sexual assault trial against former Scottish Minister Alex Salmond.

Murray is the first person in the U.K. to be incarcerated for media contempt in over a half century. It has been 70 years since someone was incarcerated in Scotland on this charge.

“I go to jail with a clean conscience after a Kafkaesque trial,” Murray declared in a press statement. “I genuinely do not know who I am supposed to have identified or which phrases I published are said to have identified them, in combination with [details] in the public domain.”

“This judgment will have a chilling effect on reporting of the defense case at trials to the detriment of justice, and the different treatment of bloggers and approved media is sinister,” Murray added.

Posted by: S | Jul 30 2021 2:49 utc | 187

"Assange on the other hand looked too far into the abyss and made too much public. His only hope is the total collapse of the five-eyes system."

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 30 2021 1:50 utc | 186

Well, I have a lot of respect for Assange, he set out to take on the Spooks and the tyrants, and he had a good way to do it too, smart guy, with nerve. But then he let his gonads do his thinking for him and they caught him. Far to nonchalant about it.

I'd say you are right about his chances now, too many people in too deep. Like all these stupid unbelievable stories about Russia & Putin. I mean Putin! You'd think he was Ghaddaffi or something. That is the problem with all of this now, far too many mediocrities have bet their farm on keeping things as they are going just a little longer, until they are out of the picture. Too many people vested in the present system. What we should have is a government of stone introverts, they are not going to be swayed by money and a few bimbos...

Sorry, I got carried away.

Always appreciate your comments.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 30 2021 3:22 utc | 188

This guy has 162,000 subscribers on Twitter:

Tom Joseph @TomJChicago - 14:03 UTC · Jul 28, 2021

If Putin is willing to attack our diplomats w/ portable microwave devices that cause Havana syndrome, we shouldn’t assume our elite athletes & the Olympics would be off-limits to him. It’s something we should at least take precautions on. Will discuss further on tonight’s podcast

The replies are hilarious.

Posted by: S | Jul 30 2021 4:40 utc | 189

Human Rights Watch Watcher @queeralamode - 17:25 UTC · Jul 27, 2021

Omar Deghayes, who was held captive at Guantanamo Bay for five years, describes the torture he endured:

“When they held me down they chained me and one guard was holding my head. The other guard sat down and he pushed two of his fingers inside both of my eyes…I lost sight...”

[video]

Posted by: S | Jul 30 2021 4:43 utc | 190

Chevron Justice is corporate justice and you better believe it.

This is the descent into hell for the citizens of the USA.

Seven minutes of Krystal and Saagar go over the latest news in the Steven Donziger case against Chevron.

Court finds Donziger guilty. The USA has lost its mind.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 30 2021 10:49 utc | 191

uncle tungsten @191--

Yes, it certainly has as this article roasting Bloomberg attests:

"Bloomberg's latest COVID-19 resilience ranking, in which Norway topped the list, the US was 5th and China 9th, turns black into white, and is nothing but a laughing stock, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian told a press conference on Friday.

"Bloomberg released its latest ranking under the title of 'The best and worst places to be as reopening, variants collide' on Wednesday. Norway replaced the US to be the new No 1 with 'enough shots administered,' 'few new fatalities and its borders unsealed,' according to Bloomberg.

"'A few days ago, Bloomberg placed the US at the top of its COVID-19 resilience ranking and I said that people around the world can take it as a joke in tea break conversation. Today, I was asked by people that with the largest number of infections and death toll, the US ranked as 5th on Bloomberg's latest ranking and what is the logic? Did Bloomberg wrongly print the ranking?' Zhao said."

China is now playing hardball with the Outlaw US Empire over its attempt to weaponize the virus as this item notes:

"The US should publish its data on early COVID-19 cases, invite the World Health Organization to probe Fort Detrick and the University of North Carolina, and publish data on sick soldiers who attended the Wuhan Military World Games, if it truly wants to be transparent on COVID-19 origins, the Chinese Foreign Ministry said Friday.

"Zhao Lijian, spokesperson of the Chinese Foreign Ministry, said at Friday's media briefing that in order to shift responsibility from its failed COVID-19 response and achieve its political goal of smearing other countries, the US has politicized the pandemic, stigmatized the virus, and turned the COVID-19 origins tracing into a tool, and it has taken lying, discrediting and coercion as its means while showing no respect to science and justice.

"The ugly page of the US behavior will surely be recorded in the annals of the global fight against COVID-19, Zhao said.

"'You cannot whitewash yourself by smearing others. If the US truly wants to be transparent and responsible, please start with the following four things,' Zhao said." [My Emphasis]

That demand will be ignored as the Outlaw US Empire has no sense of shame and certainly doesn't listen to international opinion. Instead as the Bloomberg propaganda shows, the Empire prefers lying to its own people and the world--continuity in behavior over many decades now.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 30 2021 16:18 utc | 192

Bemildred, if they hadn't nabbed Assange on account of his thinking gonads, they would've come up with some other pretext.

Posted by: corvo | Jul 30 2021 16:19 utc | 193

Posted by: corvo | Jul 30 2021 16:19 utc | 193

Probably.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 30 2021 16:50 utc | 194

192 Cont'd--

This article is more complex in its critique of the Outlaw US Empire's Covid performance and political behavior:

"Yang Zhanqiu, a virologist at Wuhan University, has repeatedly voiced his concern of the US' 2019 influenza epidemic and outbreak of vaping-related lung disease since 2020. Yang told the Global Times that he had visited the Fort Detrick laboratory years ago and learned that it stores samples for a long time for scientific research, so he believes that many samples during the influenza epidemic have been preserved by American health departments.

"Due to the similarity of symptoms between EVALI and COVID-19 and no nucleic acid detection kits available, it's highly likely that some COVID-19 patients were actually misdiagnosed as EVALI patients in 2019, Yang said.

"The US should run antibody tests on blood samples of EVALI patients to find out how many of them were actually COVID-19 patients, and share the data with global scientists to help the world get closer to the COVID-19 origins, Yang said, noting 'it's a very easy job.'

"The timeline of early cases in the US has been constantly dialed forward. A study of over 24,000 samples taken for a National Institutes of Health (NIH) research program in the US between January 2 and March 18, 2020 suggested that seven people across five states may have contracted COVID-19 at least a month before the country's first officially confirmed cases on January 21, 2020.

"But according to US media reports, the US suspended the study of early cases for political interests.

"Yang believes the COVID-19 issue has been deeply politicized by the US which used it as a weapon to attack China.

"'It's not that the US cannot run those tests due to technical issues, it's just they prefer not to or not to tell the world for their selfish political interests,' Yang said." [My Emphasis]

There's much more discussion about action the Outlaw US Empire ought to take. But by now, it's painfully clear based on prior behavior that the Empire has something to hide, and as with 911, the actual truth will never become known.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 30 2021 16:59 utc | 195

In this article we're told a case history of one financial parasite's destructive actions as an introduction to the existence of the Stop Wall Street Looting Act, whose truthful title echoes the Stop Funding Terrorism Act that failed to gain traction because the Outlaw US Empire is the #1 Terrorist Nation. Given the stranglehold financial parasites--euphemized as private equity firms--have on government, I expect the same fate for this bill. Such an outcome confirms Dr. Hudson's assessment that for any productive change in the overall system of governance a Revolution's required.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 30 2021 17:13 utc | 196

karlof1 @192 (Jul 30 2021 16:18 utc) and 195 (Jul 30 2021 16:59 utc),

Thanks for the comments. Not sure if anyone noticed that US FDA approved something for smallpox in June, 2021.

The statement itself looks quite interesting....

Posted by: LuRenJia | Jul 30 2021 17:30 utc | 197

Iran and Saudi Arabia are inching towards a rapprochement that, if achieved, would profoundly shift the region’s dynamics, diplomacy and stability. Officials from both sides have recently hailed backchannel talks held first in Iraq and now in Oman as “constructive.”

In May, Iraqi President Barham Salih confirmed his country had been hosting quiet talks between the two often bitter rivals. The talks, which started in April, have recently been attended by high-profile delegates, including Saudi chief of General Intelligence Directorate Khalid al-Humaidan and Iranian Deputy Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council Saeed Iravani.

The first symbolic breakthrough could be seen as early as next week. Iranian media have reported that Saudi Arabia has signaled it could send an envoy to attend President-elect Ebrahim Raisi’s inauguration scheduled for August 5. If so, the diplomatic overture would mark a significant departure since the two sides broke off diplomatic relations in 2016.

Raisi, in his first press conference as president-elect on June 21, said there were no barriers to the reopening of Iranian and Saudi Arabian embassies, and Iran was prepared to embrace normalized ties with its predominantly Sunni neighbor. Burying the past, of course, won’t be easy

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 30 2021 19:07 utc | 198

karlof1 #198

Raisi, in his first press conference as president-elect on June 21, said there were no barriers to the reopening of Iranian and Saudi Arabian embassies, and Iran was prepared to embrace normalized ties with its predominantly Sunni neighbor. Burying the past, of course, won’t be easy

Fascinating and perhaps the USA murdering Soulemani inspired more rapid engagement to cement the rapprochement. Burying the USA presence in the Middle East would seem to be a common priority for Islam as a whole regardless of country and perhaps Iran and Saudi Arabia can agree on that. It is in all the Middle Eastern countries interests to diversify their economies, substitute terrestrial transport for maritime transport where possible, develop infrastructure hub economies across their territories and ultimately link to OBOR as a parallel transport system to render a security bonus.

Such financial interdependencies between nations do wonders for minimising rogue, belligerent political clowns. Except the UKUSA of course.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 31 2021 1:22 utc | 199

For those who haven't seen them, let me park these three links:

https://archive.fo/doK4j#selection-1109.0-1109.39

https://archive.fo/OVdHF

https://archive.fo/kTGXc


Hopefully they will put to bed any more argument about whether Queen Elizabeth has power or is just a figurehead.

Posted by: John Cleary | Jul 31 2021 18:21 utc | 200

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