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July 18, 2021

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2021-055

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

Alan MacLeod @AlanRMacLeod - 10:57 UTC · Jul 18, 2021

Fox News' editors blurred out the signs at what they claimed were "anti-government" demonstrations in Cuba 🇨🇺 because they said things like "Long Live the Cuban Revolution" and "The Streets Belong to the Revolutionaries." 😂
Taking fake news to a whole new level.
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And check this: with no notification, the @NyTimes has gone back and stealth edited their original article on the protests.
"Hundreds" nationwide becomes "thousands" in one small town alone!
Pretty sus!

> Although civilian leaders may be accused of having overreached with visions of building Afghanistan into a democracy capable of defending itself, the military eventually embraced that goal. Claims by senior military officers of having “turned a corner” toward success in Afghanistan were repeated so regularly that critics  wondered whether the military was going in circles. <

Has the AP author read MoA?
Nov 28 2017 - Turning The Corner In Afghanistan - Moon of Alabama

Other issues:

Covid-19 Delta:

Covid-19 Ivermectin:


Use as open thread ...

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A thread reviewing the e-CNY test that has been ongoing in China since 2014.

Note this is explicitly not for external use - this test was to give the PBoC some experience and data concerning propagation, usage and control of a stablecoin.

But it does represent real usage and data. Approximately $5.3B in transactions has been conducted in e-CNY vs. how much for the existing cryptocurrencies?

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 18 2021 14:47 utc | 1

Three research institutions in Italy, the Italian Institute of Politics, Society and Economics, the Italian Institute of International Diplomacy, and the Italian Eurasian Mediterranean Research Center jointly released a research report written by multiple independent researchers-“Xinjiang: Understanding Complexity Construction” “Peace”, through investigation and research, restores the truth about the Xinjiang issue. The report criticizes relevant countries represented by the United States for seeking geopolitical benefits through human rights issues.

Posted by: ukdefector | Jul 18 2021 14:52 utc | 2

Sounds like the Researchers/authors of the actual study may have been graduate students trying to make a name for themselves, while their prof. was kept out of the loop a bit, but put on the paper as "lead author".

I couldn't find the authors' names on the Grifter blog. Who were they other than Dr. Elgazzer?

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jul 18 2021 14:56 utc | 3

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jul 18 2021 14:56 utc | 3
Sorry refering to ivermectin study

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jul 18 2021 14:57 utc | 4

A National Review article that at least addresses the legitimate concerns that many people have over COVID vaccines - and the reality that the ongoing conflicting messaging, double standards, flat out lies and overall attitude are what underwrite American vaccine resistance.

In particular

The older you are and the denser your community, the more likely you are to be vaccinated. The younger you are, and the more rural your community, the less likely you are to have gotten it. This reflects the real facts about the risk of death from COVID. People may be wildly overestimating their risk from the vaccine and underestimating their risks from COVID — but they have the directional thinking correct. Those who are in less danger, act like it.

These risk-benefit calculations are not entirely defined by health outcomes either but involve psychology and politics.


To understand vaccine skeptics, proponents need to understand that the skeptics typically don’t fear COVID. They may fear that taking the vaccine is, in some way, to consent to the view that their freedoms are dependent on compliance with public health. Arguing that the vax is the path back to normality and fewer public-health restrictions backfires with skeptics, in my experience. They see consent to this view as a promise to willingly go under house arrest once a new variant hits the front-page headlines again. For them, excessive fear of COVID is the primary cause of public-health restrictions, and their refusal to take the vaccine is, in some small way, an attempt to model a life unruled by this fear.


Posted by: c1ue | Jul 18 2021 15:19 utc | 5

@ clue
The NR article has a point but the vast numbers of batshit crazy, lying, right-wingers in the USA may be a lot bigger problem.

Posted by: jrkrideau | Jul 18 2021 15:41 utc | 6

Scientists rule out man-made origin of COVID-19

The article, titled "On the origin of SARS-CoV-2 -- The blind watchmaker argument," was published in the latest issue of the journal Science China: Life Sciences. It was authored by 22 scientists working with universities and hospitals in China, or with institutions affiliated to the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

According to its first and corresponding author, professor Wu Chung-I with the School of Life Sciences at Sun Yat-sen University, the evolution of highly adaptive traits is generally a gradual process driven by natural selection. As Richard Dawkins stated succinctly in "The Blind watchmaker": If natural selection is a watchmaker, it could only be a blind one who works step by step, each time selecting some slight improvements from random tinkering.

"A species that perfectly adapts to its environment is not created all at once, but is the culmination of a series of small improvements from a large number of random mutations in a long time. SARS-CoV-2, as a 'perfect' virus, must be the product of natural selection as nobody could know in advance how to create a virus that perfectly adapts to humans," said Wu.

It's though when you have to re-teach the rest of the world high school-level Biology. But here we are, in a world where Intelligent Design is taken seriously.


“Unchallenged Orientalism”: Why Liberals Suddenly Love the Lab Leak Theory, by Alan Macleod, Mint Press (July 09th, 2021)



Meeting with investors: Svetlana Tikhanovskaya will fly to the USA with a report

Report about what? The progress of the underground operations of the Capitalist Party of Belarus (CPB)?


"When everything stagnates, they call the liberals": Interview with Alexei Kudrin, on the fall of the USSR

This is part of a series commemorating 30 years of the dissolution of the USSR by the Kommersant. There's a link in near the headline that directs you to all the interviews of the series. I recommend reading them, because they mostly tell the story from the Yeltsinite (neoliberal, anti-communist) point of view. It is very funny reading the absurd excuses they still make in defense of their actions, but Kudrin seems to be one of the more level-headed ones.


The Good ol' Times... they're never coming back:

NYC Socialites Buying Rights to Photos Showing Them Next to Maxwell, Epstein to Bury Links: Report


China is such a closed, such a nationalist country, if they only knew about the wonders of Western Civilization they would topple the CPC instantly... not:

Masterpieces from French artists of the 19th century are on exhibition in Beijing

‘Meet Raphael’ in Beijing reveals the Italian master’s talent in arts

Posted by: vk | Jul 18 2021 15:55 utc | 7

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 18 2021 15:19 utc | 5

I suspect the writer isn't wrong for a certain segment of the population. My personal reason for not taking the Covid-jab which is in no way a vaccine, is because the threat of being seriously infected by Covid is very small, much smaller than the original threat which was cynically sold to us by powerful interests who do not give a fuck about 'public health.'

This is why it is important to know the origins of this virus which is not 'novel' as many have t-cell immune response when exposed to the virus, and yet some appear to suffer non-respiratory effects of the disease for pro-longed periods of time which are quite serious. A full and proper investigation into the genome sequence is required.

Whether a bio-warfare operation, an accidental lab-leak, or 'natural' origin, the propaganda campaign that waged a war of fear against a global population, and still does to this day with the demonization of those who refuse to participate in this 'vaccine' operation, is a very large canary in a coal-mine imo.

Posted by: gottlieb | Jul 18 2021 15:55 utc | 8

Saw this twitter thread about Ukraine seemingly flipping towards China. What do people here make of it. Could it have been China helped talked them out of being NATOs WW3 pawn.

3 days ago the office of the president declared "china is our strategic partner", and recognized the fact thay "china is ukraines number 1 trade partner in the world". And zelenski declared willingness for ukraine to "be a beachhead for chinese commodities into europe"

Leader of servofpeop parliamentary faction arahamis, in russian, on xinhua tv: "the chinese example is unique, thanks to the chinese party in the first instance. I read xis work and am inspired by the horizon of planning"

Posted by: ukdefector | Jul 18 2021 15:58 utc | 9

discusses a paper" which does not seem to be the work of creditable science? IMO, discrepancies reported are so defining; they suggest a possible propaganda war maybe to cut off discussions about alternatives to government distributed, big Pharma produced, experimental mRNA vaccines?

More investigation needs to be done to determine the efficacy of Ivermectin for Covid 19 prevention and treatment, but one hell of a lot more work needs to be done to determine the impact of mRNA vaccines on human life. Invermectin has a good history of being effective against mosquitoes .. and the impact of Covid 19 virus has been reported very low in many places where invermectin is in routine use for other pathogens?
The target paper in the article, could have been a propaganda Trojan just as well as discreditable or misunderstood source, planted to cut off discussion and to stop the objections of people of many nations who are refusing government orders to submit to mRNA injections. Of course, there will be no funds to hire private investigators so everyone will have to rely on the propaganda machines for their information.

Clue1 I notice you did not mention the several works of creditable scientist that show some real problems with the mRNA vaccines..the latest I read, advises that the mRNA +lipid concoctions distribute to, integrate with, and affect nearly every place and cell in the human body?

On the topic.. of the Yemen war.. Press TV article explains Takfiri presence in Yemen

Posted by: snake | Jul 18 2021 16:32 utc | 10

This is going to be big:

Guardian, just out.

Revealed: leak uncovers global abuse of cyber-surveillance weapon
Spyware sold to authoritarian regimes used to target activists, politicians and journalists, data suggests

Human rights activists, journalists and lawyers across the world have been targeted by authoritarian governments using hacking software sold by the Israeli surveillance company NSO Group, according to an investigation into a massive data leak.

The investigation by the Guardian and 16 other media organisations suggests widespread and continuing abuse of NSO’s hacking spyware, Pegasus, which the company insists is only intended for use against criminals and terrorists.

Pegasus is a malware that infects iPhones and Android devices to enable operators of the tool to extract messages, photos and emails, record calls and secretly activate microphones.

The leak contains a list of more than 50,000 phone numbers that, it is believed, have been identified as those of people of interest by clients of NSO since 2016.

Forbidden Stories, a Paris-based media nonprofit organisation, and Amnesty International initially had access to the leaked list and shared access with media partners as part of the Pegasus project, a reporting consortium.


FT editor among 180 journalists identified by clients of spyware firm

The editor of the Financial Times is one of more than 180 editors, investigative reporters and other journalists around the world who were selected as possible candidates for surveillance by government clients of the surveillance firm NSO Group, the Guardian can reveal.

Roula Khalaf, who became the first female editor in the newspaper’s history last year, was selected as a potential target throughout 2018.

Her number is included in a leaked list of mobile phone numbers selected for possible surveillance by clients of NSO, an Israeli firm that manufactures spyware and sells it to governments. Its principal product, Pegasus, is capable of compromising a phone, extracting all of the data stored on the device and activating its microphone to eavesdrop on conversations.

Other journalists who were selected as possible candidates for surveillance by NSO’s clients work for some of the world’s most prestigious media organisations. They include the Wall Street Journal, CNN, the New York Times, Al Jazeera, France 24, Radio Free Europe, Mediapart, El País, Associated Press, Le Monde, Bloomberg, Agence France-Presse, the Economist, Reuters and Voice of America.

NSO has long insisted that the governments to whom it licenses Pegasus are contractually bound to only use the powerful spying tool to fight “serious crime and terrorism”.

A lot of pissed off media people will try to get back at NSO Group ...

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2021 16:46 utc | 11

thanks b... those pictures of the floods in europe are fairly shocking.... it is quite a disaster where it happened...

all things covid still seem to mesmerize the general public, if moa is any gauge.... my brother shared with me a link to david martins website for anyone interested..

Posted by: james | Jul 18 2021 16:46 utc | 12

@ ukdefector #10

I hope that Ukraine isn't going to try to play off China against the US. The most likely outcome of that is another regime change, perhaps a violent one.

Now if they reverse the anti-China decision the US pushed them into on the Motor Sich acquisition that would be a lot more indicative than mere fine words. There are other incentives to do a U-turn: "Skyrizon is suing Ukraine for $3.5 billion for cancelling the deal".

Posted by: Billb | Jul 18 2021 17:24 utc | 13

@ Billb:

More likely they'll try to take China for everything they can, then dump China for its Western "buddies." I do trust the Chinese are smart enough to insist on immediate payment in cash for everything, and are not lending money.

Posted by: corvo | Jul 18 2021 17:27 utc | 14

3 out of the 12 ringleaders who organised the looting and attacks on infrastructure in KZN and Gauteng have been arrested

Civil unrest: Hunt underway for instigator of the ’well-orchestrated’ attacks

Posted by: Down South | Jul 18 2021 17:29 utc | 15

@13 - Billb - "The most likely outcome of that is another regime change, perhaps a violent one."

Are you suggesting that the 2013-2014 regime change wasn't violent? I think a lot of Ukrainians and other observers would disagree.

Who knows what is going on in Zelenski's head. He should stick to the piano.

Zelenski from you tube

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 18 2021 17:44 utc | 16

Why does a German blog go to Daily Mail to show pictures of flooding in Germany?

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 18 2021 18:01 utc | 17

Posted by: vk | Jul 18 2021 15:55 utc | 7

Very strong argument! It could be natural thus it was natural. Powerful! Unstoppable argument!

They said the claim of non-natural origin of SARS-CoV-2 is "moot," as no known natural law "prohibits the SARS-CoV-2 genome to evolve to its current state." They called for focus on the natural processes in relation to the virus' origin, which would be "more productive."

With arguments of this depth it feels as though people have cycled back to the first week of the pandemic
and learned almost nothing in over a year.

Why even post such sophomoric dribble, vk @7 ?

"22 Chinese scientists rule out non-natural origin" indeed!, vk

Posted by: librul | Jul 18 2021 18:04 utc | 18

Whatever the origin of Covid19, the global response has been a concerted campaign of fear and control. First the fear, then the control, and it has worked a treat.
This leads to the refusal by global authorities to look seriously at the effectiveness, or not, of available drugs such as Ivermectin for the treatment, not prevention, of the virus.
A readily available treatment would undermine the profits of the vaccine producing companies, and it would take the fear out of the fear/control equation.
Much is made of the notion of "herd immunity". The thinking seems to be that if enough people are vaccinated, we can beat this thing. It would be more accurate to say that we, the people of the world, are being herded.

Posted by: Hal Duell | Jul 18 2021 18:10 utc | 19

Covid passports being introduced in France

Macron announced that from 21 July, anyone visiting a theatre, cinema, sports venue or festival with an audience of more than 50 people would need a health pass proving they were either fully vaccinated, had tested negative or were immune.

The same requirement will be extended to bars, cafes, restaurants, shopping centres (though not supermarkets), hospitals, long-distance trains, coaches and planes from 1 August, he said – including for children aged between 12 and 17 from 1 September.

People unable to present a valid health pass risk up to six months in prison and a fine of up to €10,000 (£8,500), according to the draft text of the law, while owners of “establishments welcoming the public” who fail to check patrons’ passes could go to jail for a year and be hit with a €45,000 fine.

Meanwhile, non-essential free coronavirus testing will also end in September, “to further encourage vaccination”, and healthcare professionals and retirement home workers who have not been vaccinated by 15 September will be suspended for a month to allow them to do so. Thereafter, they risk dismissal.

France achieves record Covid jabs with Macron’s ‘big stick’ approach

Posted by: Down South | Jul 18 2021 18:11 utc | 20

@ b 11.. - sounds like a vitamin, lol... i find it curious how that only democratic country in the middle east is happy to sell to authoritarian countries that will use the data for everything this tiny little country is supposed to be opposed to... i guess money trumps democracy and freedom... i hope the NSO group get their just deserts...

@ 17 norwegian... i have asked myself this question in the past.. i have a friend in the usa that will send me stuff from the daily mail based in the uk... perhaps it is because of the number of videos and pictures on that link that can't be found in the german press?? only a guess, but i think it might be the case..

Posted by: james | Jul 18 2021 18:16 utc | 21

@Down South | Jul 18 2021 18:11 utc | 20

People unable to present a valid health pass risk up to six months in prison and a fine of up to €10,000 (£8,500), according to the draft text of the law, while owners of “establishments welcoming the public” who fail to check patrons’ passes could go to jail for a year and be hit with a €45,000 fine.

Meanwhile, non-essential free coronavirus testing will also end in September, “to further encourage vaccination”, and healthcare professionals and retirement home workers who have not been vaccinated by 15 September will be suspended for a month to allow them to do so. Thereafter, they risk dismissal.

If this does not cause another french revolution, nothing will. This is worse than the Nazis.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 18 2021 18:24 utc | 22

@ Posted by: Down South | Jul 18 2021 18:11 utc | 20

You omitted the main news on this: those passports will not include those vaccinated with Chinese or Russian vaccines.

So, not only you have to get vaccinated - you have to be vaccinated with the "correct" vaccine (i.e. a Western pharma vaccine).

Posted by: vk | Jul 18 2021 18:28 utc | 23

But in their great kindness, the French are now accepting ppl vaccinated with "the Astra Zeneca serum produced in India" and distributed via the UN program (Covishield)", joining 15 other EU countries who recognized it a few days ago.
They probably consider themselves as "civilized nations"?!?

Posted by: Mina | Jul 18 2021 18:39 utc | 24

Down South, you can add that the Fr gov is preparing a law (that will be accepted during the summer since it still has a short majority) making it possible to fire anyone who is not vaccinated and OBLIGING employers to verify the status of their employees (vaccinated, formerly sick, or tested negative -as if anyone was going to take a test everyday).

Posted by: Mina | Jul 18 2021 18:41 utc | 25

A must-read:

CPC museum opens to public

The museum completed construction in May, following 1,000 days of work by nearly 50,000 people.

The magnificent architecture takes the shape of the Chinese character "gong," which looks like a horizontal H. "Gong" means workers or labor in Chinese, implying that the CPC is the vanguard of the Chinese working class, the Chinese people, and the Chinese nation.


More than 2,600 pictures and 3,500 pieces or sets of exhibits are on display. Among the items is the manuscript of Karl Marx's notes from Brussels.

A girl lingered in front of sculptures of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.

Some orientalists like to call the CPC a Confucionist party disguised as a Communist party. Nothing is further from the truth. The CPC is a pure-blood Communist Party; it is a Marx and Engels party.

Posted by: vk | Jul 18 2021 18:47 utc | 26

@ lex talionis | Jul 18 2021 17:44 utc | 16:

I don't know what's worse: the gag's desperate (and repetitive) crudity, or its obvious fakery.

Posted by: corvo | Jul 18 2021 18:47 utc | 27

@22 Norwegian - Indeed. If the Quisling Coco Chanel were alive, perhaps she could have made a fragrance / vaccine.
Chanel 19. I wonder what Celine would have to say regarding this Journey to the End of the Night. Is the light at the end of the tunnel oncoming headlights from a locked and loaded NATO Hummer military vehicle?

At least we still have Michel Houellebecq to "break it down" as the kids say. The 'rona "...was a great excuse, he said, to push further the "obsolescence of human relationships."


Houellebecq France 24 from last year

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 18 2021 18:51 utc | 28

Anyone know whether the French law applies to gatherings of more than 50 on airplanes?

Posted by: Paul Damascene | Jul 18 2021 18:54 utc | 29

Posted by: gottlieb | Jul 18 2021 15:55 utc | 8

This recent talk between Dr David Martin | Dr Reiner Fuellmich - July 9, 2021 may be of interest re origins through evidence of patent timelines.

Posted by: Andy | Jul 18 2021 19:01 utc | 30

The Egyptian study is a fake and an obvious fake. Then the fake gets all the ink while the legion of real studies are studiously ignored.

As has been mentioned before the wife is formerly a copy editor for JAMA. She needed about 30 seconds with the Egyptian paper to announce they did not even try hard to concoct a convincing fake. She worked just from text, no clues from me. Will also mention here that no special training or medical qualifications apply for editing medical work. Different style manual, basically if you have grammar and can read closely that is all that is necessary. Any readers here who automatically decline to read in the original - and rely on someone else.

These shenanigans degrade the work of all medical researchers. Degrades the work of all scholars. Public is convinced that it is all too complicated and ignorance is best way to live.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 18 2021 19:05 utc | 31

No edit function. Meant to say that when you rely on someone else’s interpretation you will miss most of what is there.Rarely would there be any good reason not to read an original.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Jul 18 2021 19:07 utc | 32

So, not only you have to get vaccinated - you have to be vaccinated with the "correct" vaccine (i.e. a Western pharma vaccine).

It’s never been about stopping a pandemic.

Russia offered South Africa 15 million free doses of Sputnik V and the government turned it down. It’s either Pfizer or J&J here and you don’t have a choice. You take whatever vaccine the government gives you. So far it’s overwhelmingly been Pfizer.

Posted by: Down South | Jul 18 2021 19:14 utc | 33

Austria says it is working with US to investigate ‘Havana syndrome’ cases among American diplomats

Vienna has joined forces with Washington in a probe into the mysterious outbreak of the so-called ‘Havana syndrome’ among American diplomats in the Austrian capital.

So, what now? Will the USA accuse Austria of attacking its diplomats as it did with Cuba?

Posted by: vk | Jul 18 2021 19:15 utc | 34

@ vk | Jul 18 2021 19:15 utc | 34:

I'm assuming that sort-of-neutral Austria is being roped into a bogus investigation that proves the Russians or Cubans are behind it.

Strange, isn't it? Wwhat all the cases have in common is . . . US functionaries and US installations. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Mass hysteria or US intelligence community shenanigans.

Posted by: corvo | Jul 18 2021 19:19 utc | 35

regarding my last post: Please assume that I meant at least one set of sarcasm quotes around the word "proves."

Posted by: corvo | Jul 18 2021 19:19 utc | 36

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jul 18 2021 14:57 utc | 4

From the Nick Brown article (Steamtraen link above) on the invermectin retracted paper, I see that the researchers did not seem to be able to use Excel in English well.

This makes me wonder if the two names after Elgasser are doctoral or even masters students since they are not listed as being faculty, and if they were the ones entering the data.

I have also noticed that some Arabic students using Word or a PDF file with the Arabic langauge setting are often difficult for me to comment on because the programs keep starting from the right to go left. Not being c
very adept with technology, I have never been able to reverse this in Word and my full stops always seem to appear at the beginning of the left hand line.

Thus, I wonder if the data entry problems may be one of the two students or technicians inability to use Excel properly. I do not know if there is an Excel version specific for Arabic, but some data entry problems may be related to this.

At lot of the repeated cell entries does seem obvious to fraud, and it may be possible that students might attempt this to get their PhD and a boost to their careers. I have only taught first year students in Turkey, but plagiarism/fudging is often an issue through ignorance or pressure to get a project done "successfully".

Still there were at least four faculty members (if the two students were not). Were they not going through the data thoroughly? If not deliberately, and incomptently committing fraud, they were not very competent at data entry.

Of course one fraudulent study doesn't mean ivermectin cannot be effective in treating COVID in some way, but it does make it difficult know know how effective it may or may not be.

Alas, between scientic fraud and politicized science, it is getting very difficult to trust anything as reliable information these days.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jul 18 2021 19:26 utc | 37

From the Guardian Spyware article:

“The Israeli Minister of Defence closely regulates NSO, granting individual export licenses before its surveillance technology can be sold to a new country.”
... ...
“The investigation suggests the government of Hungary’s Viktor Orban appears to have deployed NSO’s technology as part of his so- called war against the media, targeting investigative journalists in the country as well as the close circle of one of Hungary’s few independent media executives.”

The Guardian’s fearless investigative journalism chasing down the truth! (that’s what it says at the bottom of this piece, part of the quote)

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 18 2021 19:41 utc | 38

Paul #29
Well, in the UK it is only 6 persons! no wonder so many ppl run to take buses, metros, trains and planes

Posted by: Mina | Jul 18 2021 19:43 utc | 39

I thought South Africa had vaccinated (or was planning to) its 600,000 healthcare practitioners with J and J, as part of a .... voluntary trial, as elsewhere

"Due to the intervention of researchers involved in the Johnson & Johnson vaccine trial in South Africa a workaround was quickly negotiated for 500,000 trial doses to be made available. These would be prioritised for health workers with implementation in March 2021.

However, this was an expanded observational trial (Sisonke trial), not a rollout. It could only rely on trial sites for expansion, severely restricting the scaling up of the programme.

Nevertheless, the Sisonke workaround was a local initiative that spared the lives of many frontline health workers.

Posted by: Mina | Jul 18 2021 19:49 utc | 40

Perhaps the Chinese people have a clear picture of where Sars cov 2 started.

More than half a million Chinese netizens have signed a joint letter to the WHO as of the press time on Sunday, demanding the organization conduct an investigation into the US' Fort Detrick lab, a place whose sudden shutdown is still shrouded in secrecy which has not been subject to any scrutiny from the international community. They believe a thorough probe into the US lab could prevent a future epidemic.

Complete story.

Posted by: Dodgy Bodger | Jul 18 2021 19:52 utc | 41

@ Old Hippie 32
"The Egyptian study is a fake and an obvious fake. Then the fake gets all the ink while the legion of real studies are studiously ignored."

You've nailed it. There has been huge success with ivermectin in Uttar Pradesh and in Mexico.

Posted by: Ike | Jul 18 2021 19:52 utc | 42

No serious scientist would read a study from Egypt and take it without a grain of salt. Everyone knows the complete impossibility to impose the measures needed for a trial in a place like Egypt. Having the guy withdraw it probably did not cost much either.

Posted by: Mina | Jul 18 2021 19:58 utc | 43

About the exploding covid clusterfuck, Greece is now seeing increase in the touristic islands. Problem is that in some small islands have zero facilities to offer!
Must be another thing the Eurocrats have difficulties to imagine, from their glass house office

Posted by: Mina | Jul 18 2021 20:01 utc | 44


a 13 second video of LA police beating peaceful protestors, with 1.9 million views


oh, but I forgot, it is Cuba that has the human rights problems etc etc; and 'we' must invade

Read Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler
Breaking news, U.S. security forces attack peaceful demonstrators in the western city of Los Ángeles

with a note by Rob
The LAPD budget is $1.76 billion

that's billion, not millions. what a f**ked up society

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jul 18 2021 20:48 utc | 45

vk @34: "...mysterious outbreak of the so-called ‘Havana syndrome’ among American diplomats in the Austrian capital."

As corvo @35 suggests, it is mass hysteria. The mass nervous breakdown that followed America's 2016 elections demonstrates that the "Establishment" in the US has been treading the borderline of hysteria for some time now, what with their generalized anxiety disorders and impostor syndromes. Fostering a deeply delusional worldview makes such mental illnesses difficult to avoid. It doesn't take much to push them over the edge into full blown psychogenic disorders.

But it does takes something to trigger the specific emotional stigmata of ‘Havana syndrome’ that these CIA operators all seem to suffer from. They need to believe that they are in enemy territory and completely surrounded by threats. This belief normally arises from the fact that our psychologically fragile Millennial agents are carrying out covert activities that those in the society around them would consider hostile if they knew about them. That is to say, our future ‘Havana syndrome’ victims are in enemy territory because they have made themselves the enemy of their host country with their own covert activities.

With the psyches of our CIA operators under diplomatic cover primed in this manner all it takes is a repeated background sound that is unfamiliar to people accustomed to life in an idyllic upper middle class northern Virginia suburb. Crickets and cicadas are well-known classic triggers for these young spooks (wealthy northern Virginia suburbs are bug-sprayed from municipal trucks, so no crickets and no cicadas), but it could also be something like audible crosswalk signals that many cities use to help blind citizens cross streets. The tones heard in cities far from Langley would be unfamiliar and difficult to identify for our youthful faux diplomat moles. Furthermore, they may furtively examine others around them when hearing these "strange" sounds and be alarmed to find that nobody else seems to notice them. Of course, for locals such sounds fade into the background and are ignored, but for our secret agents with emotional development of six year olds (typical for traditional Ivy League students recruited straight from graduation by the CIA) those sounds are the very ones made by mysterious Soviet mind rays. They tumble over the edge, along with their colleagues, into mass psychosis.

The cause for ‘Havana syndrome’ is all very straight forward and easily understood. The bigger question in all of this is why are American spooks feeling themselves to be in enemy territory in Austria, of all places? What are they doing there that the Austrians would consider enemy activity if they knew about it? Planting seeds for a "color revolution"? Is there an Austrian whom the empire feels they need to assassinate? A true left organization there that the empire needs to destroy? Or is the CIA being motivated by figments of their own deluded imaginations? Barking at shadows? Obviously they are up to something if they are doing psychological meltdowns.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 18 2021 21:01 utc | 46

I wanted to extend my sympathies to those affected by the severe flooding in Germany and elsewhere.

I am also curious. When an extreme flood occurs, it is common practice now to cite climate change immediately, and perhaps, exclusively. In Canada, during some severe flooding in the past, there were two non- climate change topics raised for discussion. The first is development of land in flood plains, or at risk of flooding in severe instances. Over time, developers seem to persuade those involved to permit more building. A few decades can pass between major flood events.

The second topic is a complete re-think of how we manage waterways to prevent flooding. The argument is that evidence suggests that by preventing regular, routine minor flooding, we are setting ourselves up, ecologically, for catastrophic flooding. It’s suggested we learn from some countries who live with monsoons and have developed with the expectation that every year (or so), the area will flood. The infrastructure is put together much differently than in Canada. Has this entered into debates in Europe too?

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 18 2021 21:10 utc | 47

Why England’s COVID ‘freedom day’ alarms researchers
The latest statistics show that there might not be much to worry about. UK is among the most heavily vaccinated countries (87.9%/68.3%) in the world and the figures suggest that the vaccine doesn't necessarily prevent you getting COVID-19 but your chances of being hospitalised or dying are dramatically reduced.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Jul 18 2021 21:14 utc | 48

Bruised Notherner @ 47

Previous all time record for anywhere in Germany was 353mm of rain in 24 hours. This time the top was 1146mm. That is 45 inches for Americans who are metrically impaired. More than three times previous record. Germany does have a long period of record. Very large areas had more than previous record.

When the record book is simply thrown out the window floodplain management is useless. No way to plan for such an event. Media accounts of “biggest in decades” or “hundred year flood” are rubbish boilerplate. This was a very large flood. Not a thousand year flood either. A pure climate change event.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 18 2021 21:30 utc | 49

I live right outside D.C., and I go to the Daily Mail for reporting on events in the D.C. area. They have the best reporting I have so far seen of the shootings outside the baseball game yesterday, as well as of the shootings outside the Popeye's restaurant the night before.

Posted by: lysias | Jul 18 2021 21:31 utc | 50

old hippie @49

Thanks for the details - that is an incredible abnormality. I watched a documentary about this after the 200-year flood in Manitoba, I think it was?

Believe it or not, the argument is that the extreme catastrophic flooding can be linked directly to regular flood prevention practices. I can’t remember the specifics, but it was argued (with evidence) that by blocking regular, cyclical flooding, we are setting the foundation for an astronomical flood in the future. With an extreme variation like this. Seriously! We should learn from simple practices implemented in countries who experience monsoon flooding. That was one main conclusion.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 18 2021 21:42 utc | 51

@ 45 michaelj72 -

I know that ZH isn't popular amongst many of the folks here, but they do have some good articles. This one is about the "peaceful protest" which occurred in my town, LA. A male who thinks he is a female was allowed into a Korean spa. Some of the females who know they are females reacted. People protested. The blackshirts with a rainbow button showed up to ratchet it up. They call themselves anarchists. I am sure Nestor Makhno rolled over in his grave in Pere Lachaise.

K-town protests from ZH

I'm no bootlicking lover of uniformed humans, but if you shoot some fireworks at LAPD it won't turn out well. This isn't Portland or Seattle.
They weren't peaceful protesters. They were rainbow colored Soros bots.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 18 2021 21:50 utc | 52

@ oldhippie | Jul 18 2021 21:30 utc | 49 and other comments

Thanks for the perspective about the Covid/Ivermectin debacle and the discussion about the flooding in Germany....a pure climate change event....agreed

Looking at the pictures, seeing the sewer line size and other drainage routs as well as the utter carnage makes one wonder if/how it gets sorted out and put back together....where does all that sewage go in the interim?...and what effects does it have to down stream potable water systems?......a REAL shit show and not just one of my made up ones....grin

Mother nature bats first and last or whenever they want....but the West is going to fight China and Russia....

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 18 2021 21:56 utc | 53

The patents are a smoking gun it seems. I was initially mystified how even Big Pharma could sell the idea of feasible mass vaccination less than a year after the 'novel' virus emerged. The answer is that its novelty has been considerably exaggerated. In fact, it seems work began on coronavirus vaccines in the late 90s but by c. 2014 it was clear that very large amounts of money were never going to be recovered or indeed even invested unless there was a public health demand to sop up supply. The key factor was the mobilisation of the viral (no pun intended) character of new social media to whip up hysteria, doubt and panic—not to mention the effective manipulation of Sinophobia. While the 'state of emergency' is perhaps opportunism on the part of the state (a happy side-effect for the WEF et al.) the real story is one as old as the hills (like the coronavirus itself). The flu had run its course; time for a new grift. Pandemics it seems, like wars, are a racket.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 18 2021 22:55 utc | 54

@ oldhippie 49:

You are stating that 45 inches of rain fell in 24 hours. Frankly I'm not seeing it. For instance, in this report from CNN:


"Large swaths of western Germany saw 24-hour rainfall totals between 100 and 150 millimeters (3.9-5.9 inches), which represent more than a month's worth of rainfall in this region, according to CNN meteorologist Brandon Miller.

Cologne, in North Rhine-Westphalia, recorded 154 millimeters (6 inches) of rainfall in the 24 hours to Thursday morning, which is nearly double its monthly average for July of 87 millimeters."


6 inches is quite different than 45 inches, wouldn't you say? The Guardian used a metric measurement and had this to say:


"The most striking of more than a dozen records was set at the Köln-Stammheim station, which was deluged in 154mm of rain over 24 hours, obliterating the city’s previous daily rainfall high of 95mm."


The above translates to just over 6 inches of rain.

Posted by: Woogs | Jul 18 2021 23:00 utc | 55


I mean cardiovascular disease, cancer, obesity and diabetes are arguably pandemic proportion illnesses that kill more by orders of magnitude that covid ever will but I don't see cops parked outside the fish and chip shop warning people off trans-fats. Decades from now in advertising classes they will ask, "what was the best marketing campaign of all time?". Don Draper couldn't have done better.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 18 2021 23:05 utc | 56

So now we're supposed to fear Cuba again. God, what horseshit. Of course no mention of our endless sanctions (since 1959). And still, Cuba remains defiant.

Big $ wins again over truth and reason.

Posted by: vetinLA | Jul 18 2021 23:37 utc | 57

So far it’s overwhelmingly been Pfizer.

Lucky people.
At 95% effective, you got the prize.
Madera is almost as good.
But what ever is available, take it.
99.5 of new cases are unvaccinated

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Jul 18 2021 23:56 utc | 58

Big news
Castillo will be officially recognized as the winner and designated "president elect". He will take office in early August, I think.

Posted by: migueljose | Jul 19 2021 0:04 utc | 59


More information on the withdrawn (or was it?) preprint. This is a common topic on the Substack of (Russiagate believer) The Geyser.

A preprint touting ivermectin as a treatment for Covid-19 — inevitably trumpeted on right-wing media, by anti-vaxxers, and by conspiracy theorists generally — has been withdrawn from Research Square, according to a report from the Guardian.

Or has it?

You may recall that Research Square assigns a new DOI to each version of a preprint, as I noted in a post earlier this year outlining duplication and redundancy in the preprint space. This particular preprint has four versions. Version 4 consists solely of the text “Research Square has withdrawn this preprint.” Apparently, that’s how Research Square’s system is able to stack a withdrawal notice atop prior versions. Meanwhile, Versions 1-3 — versions of the actual preprint — are still available, now topped with a prominent statement that the preprint has been withdrawn, but with full-text, PDFs, and DOIs still working normally.

Over the past eight months, the preprint has been included in two meta-analyses of ivermectin, and cited more than 30 times, although the quality of these citations remains unclear. One in JAMA simply notes that trials like this haven’t yet passed peer-review, for example.

As Jack Lawrence, a medical student and journalist for a site called Grftr News (“Grifter Analysis and Review” — love it) notes, the plagiarism within the paper was easy to spot because the authors stole text and then modified it using a thesaurus, changing “severe acute respiratory syndrome” to “extreme intense respiratory syndrome” on one occasion.

Lawrence’s full analysis of the paper is a little overheated, but worth reviewing. Another analysis by Nick Brown, an expert in fraudulent papers, is also available. He identifies 79 fraudulent records in the dataset — duplicates that appear to have been manipulated to appear unique. Other experts have also debunked the paper and found glaring errors.

The concerns here are multiple, yet again. How did a paper this shoddy get through “Prescreen” and remain up for eight months before being flagged? Why are the earlier versions, each with its own DOI, still available? If preprints are working as intended, why does this keep happening?

The rapid uptake and distribution of preprints remains a concern, as well. For instance, Europe PMC links to Version 1 of the preprint, and frames the text of that version in its site. There is no indication the paper has been withdrawn.

I have questions in to Research Square, and will provide updates if warranted. But once again, we have a preprint server being used to push bad science to support right-wing conspiracies, a sloppy withdrawal process, and amplification of claims that haven’t passed peer-review.

The Geyser is worth checking on occasionally if you're into the whole (general, not just COVID related) preprint controversy, BTW.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 19 2021 0:06 utc | 60

The new Russian fighter that Sukhoi has been teasing in promos for a while gets more interesting the more one sees of it.

For one thing, it's single engine. I thought the Russians had abandoned single engine designs. For another, it's a "stealth" configuration similar to the SU57, F35 or J20. For a third, it's got a chin inlet like a J10 or F16. I can't think offhand of any other Russian fighter with a chin inlet. Not one, though the MiG 33, which never got built, was supposed to have a chin inlet.

Well, going by the obsession on aviation websites, the advance publicity has more than achieved its purpose. The desperation on Amerikastani websites to try to belittle it - even without knowing a thing about it - is funny.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 19 2021 0:08 utc | 61

One soon realises one can't trust a liberal Amerikastani about anything. Here's the liberal Amerikastani cartoonist Signe Wilkinson vapidly vapourising about Cuba:

Here she is pushing her "brilliant plan" on Afghanistan:

Typical "We know best what's good for you" liberal colonial mentality.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 19 2021 0:12 utc | 62

Is there any archived or reposted vervain of the Warshington Boast article? It's paywalled.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 19 2021 0:14 utc | 63

follow up, a few thoughts
1. I think the U.S. and imperial related power brokers bailed on Fujimori. She was not very good: a classical case of an entitled, mean-spirited, spoiled bitch who couldn't even maintain support from many wannabe rich in Lima. Want to see examples of Keiko Fujimori? Go to Miami. She and her dad typify the toxic culture of most of the Latin American upper class which now considers Miami its capital. Fujimori is like Pompeo. The current DNC regime in Washington wants a Blinken-like figure.
2. Watch for the Empire to destroy Pedro Castillo. The right wing has a huge majority in Peru's congress and will lead the effort.
3. I think Castillo will surprise people. I think he is much more astute, corageous, and articulate than the press portrays him. The Peruvian media is right wing but the peons are not affected by them. Castillo might use his first years to:
lay out huge public sector programs;
kick out the U.S. military;
network with resistance countries;
empower teachers and demand huge increases in education funding
build a formidible grass roots movement
4. Watch for Bolivia, then Argentina, then Chile (after November elections) and then Venezuela to ally with and enhance Peru's growth.
Most people don't give Pedro Castillo much of a chance. I think they're wrong.

Posted by: migueljose | Jul 19 2021 0:25 utc | 64

This is dishonest:

Food is becoming more expensive, everywhere

Yes, extreme climate, collapse of Toyotism thanks to the pandemic and the rise of China (on some products only) really did contribute to some spike in the food prices.

But they're negligible compared to effect of the Trump-Biden government using and abusing the Dollar Standard by printing dozens of trillions of USDs. It is not only food prices that are rising: everything is rising. Only massive, unprecedented Dollar printing by the Fed can explain all of that, so suddenly and so sharply (collapse of Toyotism also do that, but it was not a complete collapse, more like a disruption that is already coming back to normal - and prices continue to rise even as Toyotism recovers, so its effect must not be the main factor).

Bloomberg putting some port workers' strike in Argentina over Biden's printing trillions of Dollars like if it was nothing for the rise of food inflation is extremely disingenuous.

Posted by: vk | Jul 19 2021 0:50 utc | 65

Posted by: migueljose | Jul 19 2021 0:25 utc | 64

Thanks for the update. I did have the feeling "they" lost interest in stopping Castillo a week or so ago, just not much coverage, and what there was seemed rather un-hysterical. It could be there are just too many things to propagandize about at the same time. That same thing could help Castillo, or at least gain him some time.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 19 2021 0:56 utc | 66

Most people don't give Pedro Castillo much of a chance. I think they're wrong.

Let's hope so.
I've spent quite a bit of time in Colombia, a bit in Argentina, but none in Peru.

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Jul 19 2021 1:16 utc | 67

One final comment about the flood documentary I referred to above. I believe it is “Red River Raging: the Flood of the Century,” a creation of famous Hollywood rival, Winnipeg docs (Winnipeg’s the largest city in Manitoba, population of about 750,000) Think it’s available on YouTube if anyone’s interested,

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 19 2021 1:17 utc | 68

gottlieb @Jul18 15:55 #8

People are distrustful of the vaccines because of the bungled response, political manuevering, and a healthy distrust of a corporatist government.

But some of what you write needs clarification:

... the Covid-jab which is in no way a vaccine ...

Well, technically it is something very much like a vaccine against C O V I D. Covid-19 is a serious complication of coronavirus (SARS-COV-2). Yes, the vaccines don't prevent getting coronavirus, but that doesn't mean they are worthless: the jab will reduce the severity of the coronavirus symptoms and greatly reduce your chance of passing coronovirus to others by essentially priming your body for a fight with coronavirus.

... the threat of being seriously infected by Covid is very small ...

I think your confusing Covid-19 and coronavirus (again). The chance of developing Covid-19 from a coronavirus infection varies. Older people, and those with comorbidities have a risk that can not be termed "very small" by public health standards.

... much smaller than the original threat which was cynically sold to us by powerful interests who do not give a fuck about 'public health.'

I think you're trying to say that the risk of getting coronavirus (a prerequiste for developing Covid-19) is now less (because of the vaccines? and the number of people who have already been sickened?) so people don't get a jab. But that isn't necessarily true. With highly-infectious variants, we aren't near 'herd immunity'. And interaction with certain groups (like young people who have generally not felt the need to vaccinate) increase the chance of getting coronavirus.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 19 2021 1:30 utc | 69

I'm travellin at the mo, outside Aotearoa for the first time since the covid thing so I don't have access to my usual uncurated mess of links old data etc Thank goodness cos that would leave me obliged to try 'n find the stories on Vivendi Corp's lawsuit against Murdoch's corporations, more particularly the NSO group Murdoch founded in Occupied Palestine- where there were no laws preventing reverse engineering of Vivendi's new 'smartcard', a device slotted into a set top box that allowed euro punters to watch pay per view sport drama etc on the Vivendi network.

There was only 2 big frogs in the pond, Vivendi the french/italian conglomerate and England based & owned by Murdoch skytv.
The EU put the two on the same playing field that made a problem for murdoch because he pwned very few euro pols. Normally he just lobbied all competitors out. He couldn't do that and after consulting with numerous engineers realised that no software hack could get him what he desired a way to send Vivendi broke by enabling anyone anywhere to access Vivendi pay TV.
A team of reverse engineers, hardware hackers was assembled in Occupied Palestine and put to work to decrypt Vivendi tech, hack any necessary software then put the results into a factory producing millions of counterfeit Vivendi pay tv cards. These cards would be 1 payment tv for life - no more subscription- eva.

The cards were made and sold and drove Vivendi to the wall. Eventually a data trace between Occupied Palestine & Europe from one of the lead engineers was uncovered & Vivendi stockholders hit NSO & Murdoch with a suit in amerika.
It was apparent from the outset the hack was no eastern euro basement hack job which was how it was termed as by the media because hardware hacking to a degree never seen before, requiring tools no one knew existed deemed that impossible.
After years of delays Murdoch & the Occupied Palestine entity forced a settlement including an NDA on the plaintiffs. Since then all reference to this late 90's early noughties affair has mysteriously disappeared from the net.
Maybe some reference could be found via the wayback machine, I dunno, I no longer have the patience for meticulous tasks taking hours, especially when little would come of it.
What is important is that for all the yapping that NSO is a 'highly honourable' mob who only deal on a state to state basis, their origins are corrupt, destructive, self serving & amoral.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jul 19 2021 1:36 utc | 71

Very interesting information:

China, Russia must resolutely respond to arrogant US space goal: Global Times editorial

The US has been developing its space situational awareness (SSA) for a long time, which is leading far ahead. With the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system, its star wars and anti-missile capabilities are already the strongest across the world. But the US is not satisfied. Its ambition to achieve "all-weather, all-dimensional" information control from outer space to ballistic missiles is turning arms control into formalist attempts. This severely threatens the minimum balance of power needed for global peace.

Does the highlighted information proceed?

Posted by: vk | Jul 19 2021 1:47 utc | 72

We must be wary of any new administration, especially those which on the surface appear to support an anti-imperialist agenda but which are not violently resisted by the empire.
I'm not saying they're all crooked, just that most will have stooges & plants close to the top of the organisation set to destroy the people's wishes.
Of course Lenin Moreno in Ecuador is the obvious example, one both Ecuador and anti-imperialists about the planet should have prepared for & stymied as the risks were too great for Ecuadorians and Julian Assange. However once again most energy was spent upon pointless arguments over historic issues, ancient ideology & egoist claptrap.

Maybe Peru will be fine, maybe amerika hasn't been successful in seducing any senior Taliban with its immense power and seemingly unlimited wealth, but only a dingbat would just accept that without constant review and analysis.

As I have said before, it was the deals Mao Zedong and his team had to do with established local bosses/warlords in and around Beijing as the PLA closed on their goal which sowed the seeds for the counter cultural revolution, the 'gang of four' show trial n the return of entrenched inequality to PRC culminating in the aristo Xi Jinping's rule.

The Taliban appear to have quieted once total opposition in the North & East - great! if correct, but much review is essential. Twenty years is a long time for amerika to have sowed seeds of chaos.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jul 19 2021 2:17 utc | 73

How long will the countries targeted by American/Islamist limited warfare continue to tolerate this bold assault? China, in particular, is presently bound by the economic chains that have been forged with the United States. How much longer will it continue to abide provocations in Xinjiang and other Chinese interests from Central Asia, to Pakistan, to Africa? It would be extremely unprofitable right now for China to haul the United States before the UN Security Council or to take military actions in retaliation for this low-intensity war that has been waged upon them. But that will not always be true. When the American house of cards finishes collapsing all bets will be off.
What the hell is the matter with people? Has everyone so bought-in to the propaganda that leads them to their own deaths that they believe the lies that control us? Willfully following sell-out leaders, who are leading their own countries to death and slavery is more than merely suicidal, it's something a dumb animal would do.


Pakistan is easily one of the most pro-China and anti US country on Earth,

Begs the question..
Why so many 'terror' attacks on Chinese in Pak while none on gringos and five liars ?

Have the jihadists all gone bonkers ?

TTP tracked down tourist in Pak and executed only the Chinese...

the killing was revenge against the US drone attacks and killing of TTP chief Waliur Rehman Mehsud

The TTP mercenaries who had taken an 8 hours on-foot journey to reach the camp, made sure to pick out and kill only the Chinese, the Ukrainians and one Nepali, leaving safe the US and European tourists.

TTP slain Chinese, great satan's declared enemies, to avenge their bro murdered by great satan

YOu cant make this shit up buddy !

It gets better...

TTP’s double-face is evident from the fact that since the return of their captured leader Baitullah Meshud from GITMO, and his creation of the TTP, the TTP has invoked an undeclared Jehad against the Chinese, attacking them every now and then, whereas not a single American asset has been hit in Pakistan nor in Afghanistan.

Posted by: denk | Jul 19 2021 2:21 utc | 74

@30&54 I tried posting he bitchute link to the interview last week but was censored..
Anyhoo, follow the money always, and the patents..

Posted by: Lozion | Jul 19 2021 2:23 utc | 75

@jrkrideau #6
Batshit can be said for city burning, police defunding lefties.
Ultimately, the point of the article is so that everyone might understand what drives reluctance to vaccinate.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 19 2021 2:57 utc | 76

@gottlieb #8
There are certainly medium and long term potential safety issues, but anyone who says these are real, significant and widespread is lying because we simply don't know.
I've noted that the real issue, for me personally, is that the actual risk from COVID for non-high risk people (not over 60, no serious pre-existing health problems) is not high. As such, is there a need to mass vaccinate the population when the vaccines neither prevent COVID infection nor prevent COVID transmission from those vaccinated, that catch it anyway? And the effects aren't even clearly a medium, much less long term benefit?
A simple litmus test is: would you take a killed virus vaccine?
I can understand concerns about mRNA - but those concerns should be entirely based upon risk/benefit ratios being low on both sides of the equation. However, refusal to vaccinate in any way would be purely ideological.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 19 2021 3:02 utc | 77

@snake #10
The "credible scientists" may have a point, but the reality is that we really don't know if what they say is bad, is really bad.
Nor do we know if the "bad" things happen a lot, rarely, or somewhere in between, or to people of a specific age, ethnic, whatever subgroup.
I have yet to see anything credible that claims any certainty in the above.
But again, the point isn't that there is or there is not risk per se.
The point, for me, is if the potential and actual risk is outweighed by the actual benefit.
That ratio does not scream "yes vaccination is a slam dunk net benefit" to me.
But again, I am very much among those who think COVID is a serious issue - primarily for those at risk - but is not otherwise so serious as to require utterly remaking the economy and society.
I've traveled to Brazil in late 2020 and spent double digit weeks in open red states, so I have put my literal life where my beliefs are.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 19 2021 3:10 utc | 78

Sir Halford Mackinder's great game continues:

"Telstra has confirmed it is in discussions to buy Digicel Pacific in partnership with the federal government, in a potential deal understood to be worth almost $2 billion and which would seek to block a possible bid by China to acquire the mobile network assets, after The Australian Financial Review revealed the approach last week.
Digicel operates relatively old 3G and 4G LTE mobile networks in the South Pacific, and national security officials in Canberra are concerned China could buy its networks to spy on Australia’s closest geographical neighbours, access sensitive data and disrupt activity in Papua New Guinea, Fiji, Tonga, Vanuatu, Samoa, Nauru and Samoa."

Telstra is a privatised company listed on the ASX.

Given Australia's proven spying on the East Timor government over oil rights, I wonder what is really behind this. More spying or just spite?


Posted by: Paul | Jul 19 2021 3:17 utc | 79

@Ghost Ship #48
It is to be hoped that the vaccine would reduce hospitalization and/or death rates from COVID, as it is abundantly clear that it doesn't prevent either getting it or spreading it.
But even then, I am waiting for data to see just how true this is.
Among other things: many of the highest at-risk people have already gotten it and either died or recovered. The COVID infection rates in hospital and nursing homes was super high.
We already know that not-high risk people are 100 times or so less likely to die from COVID, pre-vaccine.
I would also postulate that it is very likely that the most likely to be infected: people who travel and mingle in large groups - are significantly or largely already exposed.
It is a good question, therefore, just how effective the vaccine is - and we won't know until more time passes.
Put another way: we have had almost 640K deaths in the US. A terrible tragedy certainly, but reducing this to 6K deaths brings the COVID death toll roughly on par with the people dying after getting vaccinated.
Note I'm not saying COVID jabs will kill you. When you jab 150M people, there are going to be some among them who die coincidentally even if the jabs are 100% safe.
What I am saying, is that if non-high risk people are 100 times less likely to die anyway, the effectiveness of the vaccine in those people is going to be really hard to measure because there just aren't going to be a lot of deaths, period - certainly not out of proportion to "normal" deaths.
Even a 1/10th less likely death rate would only put COVID deaths in the annual overdose deaths level, and about 50% above car accident deaths - both of which were considered basically acceptable by the US powers that be prior to COVID.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 19 2021 3:19 utc | 80

One last note: a 100% legitimate issue is the selective vaccine COVID passport.

I continue to see exceptions being made for or against specific vaccines for those regions/countries electing to implement COVID passports.

If the issue is truly public health - then this type of behavior is clearly political and/or profit making vs. medical/concern for the citizenry.

All of the major lines of vaccines from China, Russia, the US and India have been administered to tens to hundreds of millions of people by now.

Unless there are widespread deaths and/or clear evidence any specific vaccines performs inordinately poorly vs. the other, the failure to include all of the above options as valid vaccines for said passports inspires an enormous degree of distrust for me.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 19 2021 3:25 utc | 81

The new Russian fighter is interesting. It is probably mostly for export...for countries that find the su 57 too expensive...though Russia will likely take some into service to develop support infrastructure for it, a prerequisite for robust export potential. From what I can see it is a clipped delta of some form with no horizontal tail or canards. It has an unusual angular intake conforming to the fuselage and a single engine. The plane is not a mock up, it is being pulled around on the tarmac by an airport tractor. It may well have already flown. Having a single engine, cheaper design will be valuable in a conflict...even if it doesn't form a major component of their peace time air force.

Posted by: Norb | Jul 19 2021 3:44 utc | 82

Re: German flood pics...
In the screed preceding the pics there was a headline concerning the evacuation of people from a town for fears that a dam could burst.

So just how old-fashioned/ out-of-date is EU water infrastructure?

"Modern" dams are designed with flood-gates and a spillway to protect them from becoming over-stressed, even if they overflow.
A few years ago there was a (hindsight) shitstorm in Oz because a local Dam Management Authority didn't approve a precautionary release of water from a rapidly filling dam during a heavy rainfall event.
So the dam overflowed resulting in an UNCONTROLLED release and much down-stream damage.

The Dam Authority lost that argument because it couldn't prove that an early, controlled release would have been worse than an uncontrolled release.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 19 2021 4:14 utc | 83

Now here is something totally different!!! Wow!!!

This video blew my mind!!! What a freakin world!!!

Completely astounding sit down between Patrick Bet-David and Gianni Russo. You need to watch for at least 15mn. I promise you will watch the whole 1hr + 26mn! Even JFK assassination revealed, plus 1,000 other historical incredibilities. This rabbit hole just never stops getting deeper!!!

Posted by: blues | Jul 19 2021 4:14 utc | 84

Re: German flood pics...
In the screed preceding the pics there was a headline concerning the evacuation of people from a town for fears that a dam could burst.

So just how old-fashioned/ out-of-date is EU water infrastructure?

"Modern" dams are designed with flood-gates and a spillway to protect them from becoming over-stressed, even if they overflow.
A few years ago there was a (hindsight) shitstorm in Oz because a local Dam Management Authority didn't approve a precautionary release of water from a rapidly filling dam during a heavy rainfall event.
So the dam overflowed resulting in an UNCONTROLLED release and much down-stream damage.

The Dam Authority lost that argument because it couldn't prove that an early, controlled release would have been worse than an uncontrolled release.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 19 2021 4:15 utc | 85

A search for Canal+ lawsuit an at that time Vivendi subsidiary, has revealed contemporaneous accounts of the lawsuit against Murdoch and NDS later to become 'security expert' NSO.
Although accounts such as the one on the link above at The register can still be found none of the media newslinks it refers are still extant. . . I wonder why?

For me one of the truly ignoble things about all this is that the French Italian group who won a settlement against Murdoch and NDS were harassed through the global courts for decades by shareholders who inspired by Murdoch's thirst for revenge, sued accusing the corporation of over valuing their shares because they should have known they were vulnerable to an attack by the amoral, illegal actions of a competitor.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jul 19 2021 4:41 utc | 86

When I saw b's links to negative reports on ivermectin I already knew that for every negative story there are at least 10-20 reports in its favor - and the positive reports derive from actual results in the field among patient populations, rather than from logical exercises with words.

So I just proceeded to read the comments, assuming that some of the ivermectin character assassination would be contradicted, and I notice a couple of comments that are worthy of commendation - but (forgive me) who has the time, when all this ground has been so extensively covered already, and at such a cost of hours and effort?

In threads before this one, and still ongoing perhaps, there is some wonderful discussion around the question of what portion of any population believes the official narrative versus the proportion that simply doesn't buy that narrative. No hard numbers, but personally, I'm starting to think those proportions are something like a 50/50 split.

As someone who has fought many battles, I have to say that if I believed I had half of any population on my side, I would venture into battle as joyfully as any fighter ever.

And so, the ivermectin will win, as will be evidenced by the survivors and the unharmed, while all the useless links to all the useless lies won't matter at all, to the half of the population that knows in its bones that the formal narrative stinks.


The facts reveal themselves, since reality never perishes but simply can be obscured. But historians show that the obscure can often be illumined.

As mentioned up-thread, this pandemic-vaccine initiative will be shown to be the greatest marketing campaign in history. And as also mentioned, pandemic, like war, is always a racket.


This pandemic begins to appear like the time during the great war, when criminals got hold of rationing coupons. Oh, the money to be made for free. And plenty to spare to pay off government officials if necessary. And if someone stands in the way of the graft, that's okay because we're criminals, remember, so we can just kill those people.

This vaccination drive has all the hallmarks to me of a mafia operation. And one wonders, as those street criminals in all of our legend work their way into acceptable society, how surprised were they to discover that those who already belonged there were vastly more criminal than they themselves?

And now, in the USA, we have a society replete with criminalty from the very street to the uttermost heights, and in every institutional tier in between. I despair of such a society, except that commenters here remind us that the regular people will continue to be regular through all of the scams, and this is the only place left to place one's hope.

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 19 2021 4:47 utc | 87

"Ignorance is knowledge"

Public is convinced that it is all too complicated and ignorance is best way to live.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 18 2021 19:05 utc | 31
And #32

And now, a well written Italian Job:

Ignorano insomma che l’essenza della democrazia è fidarsi di chi sa, certamente controllando che il sapere non diventi un’usurpazione, ma consapevoli che il sapere è una lenta conquista che costa lacrime sangue, non una ricerca su google. Credono che la democrazia sia «farsi un’opinione», qualunque cosa ciò voglia dire nella loro testa.

In short, they ignore that the essence of democracy is to trust those who know, of course by checking that knowledge does not become a usurpation, but aware that knowledge is a slow conquest that costs tears blood, not a search on Google. They believe that democracy is “forming an opinion”, whatever that means in their heads.

Original "Corriere de la Serra"

Emphasized NOT by me!
("checking"??? = go to Wiki and WP fact checkers)

Posted by: Rêver | Jul 19 2021 5:26 utc | 88

Understanding China's Socialism. Book launch event for John Ross' "China's Great Road"

A very informative discussion with multiple speakers including John Ross. This and other videos on that Channel will help dispel the myths constructed in the West about China and provide a wealth of useful facts.

Posted by: ukdefector | Jul 19 2021 5:41 utc | 89

"Victory is defeat
@ Grieved | Jul 19 2021 4:47 utc | 87

As someone who has fought many battles, I have to say that if I believed I had half of any population on my side, I would venture into battle as joyfully as any fighter ever.

And so, the ivermectin will win, as will be evidenced by the survivors and the unharmed,

Yes, at the end of the journey, we will win. But they don't even care.

As someone who has fought many battles, I was fired from my job. I have to say venture into a legal battle or to accept a "volontary" check out.
They just say "We know you’ll win your case. But in five or ten years. Until then, you have to eat and you have two children. Sign here.
As joyfully as any fighter ever, I signed.
And so,the survivors and the unharmed, too.

In real life

Sorry for cynical despair.
(I got some good news from France, but...)

Posted by: Rêver | Jul 19 2021 5:45 utc | 90

@ Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 19 2021 4:15 utc | 85

Not all dams are dams. In Germany, as elsewhere (New Orleans), there are dikes, earthworks. The problem is not only submerging but undermining.

Posted by: Odenwälder | Jul 19 2021 5:52 utc | 91

@90 Rêver

I never fought a battle I knew I couldn't win. One does not.



One would only take joy from finding a battle that one believed one could win. These are rare.

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 19 2021 6:02 utc | 92

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 19 2021 3:25 utc | 81

Unless there are widespread deaths and/or clear evidence any specific vaccines performs inordinately poorly vs. the other, the failure to include all of the above options as valid vaccines for said passports inspires an enormous degree of distrust for me.

Thanks, you found the words for my thoughts. And that is why I can not trust those EU clowns VonDerLeyen and Borrell, and that is why I'm still waiting to see what happens before I inject into my body any substance that I do not trust. It is Coke or Pepsi that's freedom for you, do not even entertain the thought of having a gulp of fresh fountain water.

Posted by: Paco | Jul 19 2021 6:32 utc | 93

Thanks to Debs for the background details, and how they reveal again the Age of Censorship we live in.
I was wondering if the paragons of democracy that the consortium newspapers claim to be would even mention the possibility the software have been used... in Israel. Let's be patient.
In France, they focus on the use of it by Morocco, and that includes 3 prominent journalists now in jail. Interestingly, two of them were accused of harassment or rape and the numbers of the victims were also found to have been on the list of phone numbers who've been hacked via the software.
The "consortium" probably got a leak that included the tech knowledge on how to search a phone for the software. This, as luck would have it, is an activity which has been entrusted to "Amnesty Security Lab".
Maybe the consortium could mention Assange for once, as an example of how people risk their live to make public important leaks?

Posted by: Mina | Jul 19 2021 6:39 utc | 94

@ Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 19 2021 4:15 utc | 85

Many years ago I spent 6 months in the charming town of Delft in the Netherlands. My accommodation was next to a canal - one of the many that form the Rhine-Meuse-Scheldt Delta and crisscross that part of Holland.
During my stay, the spring snow melt in Germany was bringing floods to several places on the Rhine in Germany as it made its way towards Holland. We were warned that there was a possibility of flooding. I observed that the canal eventually rose by no more than 10cm - well within acceptable limits. Moral: If you have flooding problems, hire the Dutch! They know how to control these things - they have to - their country depends on it. And they're right next door.

Posted by: dynkyd | Jul 19 2021 6:44 utc | 95

Well I have to point out that Boris Johnson is allowing an interesing "experiment" in England now, no restrictions and a highly "vaccinated" population, with caseload going up. Meanwhile you have Scotland next door sticking to precautions. We should see how things are going there in about a month.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 19 2021 6:49 utc | 96

It is not exactly "controlling" the water but keeping enough soil and streams to let it be absorbed/evacuate, and that implies also to avoid replacing all the land with highways ("soil sealing", Fr. "imperméabilisation des sols").

Posted by: Mina | Jul 19 2021 7:11 utc | 97

New story (Sputnik) says "Chinese scientists" say SARS-2019 has natural origin:

Chinese Scientists Point to Natural Origins of COVID-19

""In the comparison with SARS-CoVof 2003, SARS-CoV-2 is extremely well adapted to the human populations and its adaptive shift from the animal host to humans must have been even more extensive. By the blind watchmaker argument, such an adaptive shift can only happen prior to the onset of the current pandemic and with the aid of step-by-step selection. In this view, SARS-CoV-2 could not have possibly evolved in an animal market in a big city and even less likely in a laboratory," the scientists concluded.

COVID-19 Origins: Scrapping Lab Leak Theory 'Premature Push', WHO Chief Says
The researchers specified that unless strains that carry "definitive signature of human design" are identified in the novel coronavirus, the claim of non-natural origin of SARS-CoV-2 is moot."

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 19 2021 7:19 utc | 98

It is not exactly "controlling" the water but keeping enough soil and streams to let it be absorbed/evacuate, and that implies also to avoid replacing all the land with highways ("soil sealing", Fr. "imperméabilisation des sols").

Posted by: Mina | Jul 19 2021 7:11 utc | 97

Yep, that's it. By channelizing the drainage, they ensure that when a flood does exceed the limits (there are always limits) the damage is much worse. If you want it to not all go downstream in a big flood, you have to let it spread out over it's usual flood plain. We are already familiar with this problem in the Mississippi-Missouri river system. We like to build on flood plains too. So flat and convenient.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 19 2021 7:24 utc | 99

Grieved | Jul 19 2021 4:47 utc | 87

This vaccination drive has all the hallmarks to me of a mafia operation. And one wonders, as those street criminals in all of our legend work their way into acceptable society, how surprised were they to discover that those who already belonged there were vastly more criminal than they themselves?

Mexican Mafia drug cartels are now moving into Oil theft. Just like the US in Syria or Saudi Arabia in Yemen. They are learning.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jul 19 2021 8:09 utc | 100

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