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July 22, 2021
Open Thread 2021-056
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The Russian Defense Ministry says Syria’s air defenses shot down seven out of eight missiles launched by Israeli warplanes during recent aggression on the northwestern Syrian province of Aleppo. Posted by: Mao | Jul 22 2021 13:59 utc | 1 The LA Times published a column today by a business analyst which claims to debunk the results of the ivermectin meta analysis study. I believe this withdrawn Egyptian study was mentioned earlier. Posted by: suzan | Jul 22 2021 14:13 utc | 2 Young “Hitlerites” appear near Kirovograd—it’s a streetball team (EurAsia Daily, July 21, 2021 — in Russian)
Posted by: S | Jul 22 2021 14:18 utc | 3 There is still confusion about the two Israeli missiles fired toward Syria from the western Mediterranean on September 2, 2013. The missiles were Black Sparrow air-launched ballistic missiles used for testing Israeli Arrow anti-ballistic missiles. I wrote the Wikipedia article on the Sparrow target missile. Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jul 22 2021 14:21 utc | 4 They’re NOT Fascists! Some people think that because of the involvement of corporations in their coup that they must be Fascists. And while corporate and government collusion is certainly a hallmark of Fascism, this is a strategy used by our enemies to circumvent the U.S. Constitution while the Federal Government must still pretend to obey it. Another hallmark of Fascism is NATIONALISM! The Fascists extolled the glory of Italian culture and history. The Nazis applauded the virtues of “das Volk” and promoted the study of German history. Both declared the superiority of their peoples above all others. Posted by: Barbarossa | Jul 22 2021 14:27 utc | 5 Chile Posted by: migueljose | Jul 22 2021 14:29 utc | 6 A third of Ukraine’s residents regret the collapse of the USSR, a survey shows (RIA Novosti, June 22, 2021 — in Russian) Posted by: S | Jul 22 2021 14:33 utc | 7 Taliban Claim Control of Some 90% of Afghanistan’s Border Areas Posted by: Mar man | Jul 22 2021 14:34 utc | 8 A lot going on at the Belarus-Lithuania border. Since May about 2,000 migrants from Iraqi Kurdistan and West/Central Africa have crossed into Lithuania. One report of an irregular militant group in Lithuania pushing back a group of migrants at gunpoint. https://tass.com/world/1315527 Posted by: northstream | Jul 22 2021 14:50 utc | 9 Kuchma tells how the Ukrainian authorities deceived people in 1991 (RIA Novosti, July 13, 2021 — in Russian)
Posted by: S | Jul 22 2021 14:58 utc | 10 Interesting read on Klaus Schwab, head of the WEF:
Klaus Schwab the Humanist versus Klaus Schwab the Terrorist Posted by: Down South | Jul 22 2021 15:02 utc | 11 @4 Petri Posted by: njh | Jul 22 2021 15:13 utc | 12 I just ran across a very thought provoking piece on the MH-17 downing. It’s the first I’ve seen that offers at least plausible explanations for several aspects of the competing theories, and I begin to get the feeling they may be on to something. Posted by: J Swift | Jul 22 2021 15:29 utc | 13 @Barbarossa | Jul 22 2021 14:27 utc | 5 Posted by: Roger | Jul 22 2021 15:42 utc | 14 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Posted by: Me | Jul 22 2021 15:53 utc | 15 Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela,… De-Dollarizing the energy arena. Posted by: Max | Jul 22 2021 15:57 utc | 16 Posted by: J Swift | Jul 22 2021 15:29 utc | 13 Posted by: Mar man | Jul 22 2021 16:00 utc | 17 Mar man | Jul 22 2021 14:34 utc | 8 Posted by: Roger | Jul 22 2021 16:04 utc | 18 Johnathan keep up! Fighter aircraft is last years theory, Today lots of new theories! John Helmer’s website Dances with Bears, covers this subject pretty extensively and he is I believe a reputable person. I think just a lot more information came forward about the missile serial numbers and the shape of the shrapnel which pushed the missile to the fore. Posted by: RZ | Jul 22 2021 16:04 utc | 19 Mar man @ 17 Posted by: J Swift | Jul 22 2021 16:06 utc | 20 @Petri Krohn #4 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2021 16:14 utc | 21 hell of a price to pay with all those innocent people dying… trying to assassinate putin ain’t pretty, but the fall out is much worse… i guess it’s what i have come to expect of this present crop of western ”leaders” or ”psychopaths”, as the case may be… Posted by: james | Jul 22 2021 16:16 utc | 22 Kremlin warns EU to abandon any hopes of empire-building: @13 J Swift and 17 Mar man – There is a very good book about MH17 by Kees van Der Pijl – MH17, Ukraine and the New Cold War Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 22 2021 16:19 utc | 24 @Barbarossa | Jul 22 2021 14:27 utc | 5 Posted by: A.L. | Jul 22 2021 16:20 utc | 25 c1ue @ 21 Posted by: Ghost Ship | Jul 22 2021 16:28 utc | 26 The rollout of Checkmate at MAKS21 was a bit of a disappointment. The manufacturer should delayed the announcement until they had a couple of dozen production models. A live display of a secret aircraft in those numbers would have caught everyone’s attention. Even better than that would have been if they buzzed some F22s or F35s flying over Syria, although I suspect the US groundcrews would not be happy. Posted by: Ghost Ship | Jul 22 2021 16:36 utc | 27 Elena Karaeva is royally pissed about France’s last-minute refusal to hold any kind of ceremony on the occasion of the return of the remains of Charles-Étienne Gudin, a general of Napoleon’s army and his personal friend.
Posted by: S | Jul 22 2021 16:39 utc | 28 One of the BRI’s several proposed transport corridors is the Northern Transport Route that would connect the Gulf of Oman with the Caspian Sea via a canal across Iran. Today, Putin met with Alexei Rakhmanov, the CEO of Russia’s United Shipbuilding Corporation. In their discussion, Mr. Rakhmanov detailed part of that transport route. As the conversation attests, the Corporation does much more than build ships: Thanks Barbarossa @ #5. Posted by: ChasMark | Jul 22 2021 16:41 utc | 30 @2 Suzan Posted by: Tim | Jul 22 2021 16:44 utc | 31 House Democrats Block COVID Origins Declassification Bill Posted by: librul | Jul 22 2021 16:48 utc | 32 Barbarossa, Posted by: Michael Weddington | Jul 22 2021 16:49 utc | 33 For those curious as to the depth of drought occurring in a large portion of North America, here’s the current US Drought Monitor Map. I expect Utah to become the first state during this drought to become 100% affected by Exceptional Drought. For those unfamiliar, the yellow area bisecting Kansas roughly marks the 100th Meridian where what was known as the Great American Desert begins. @ karlof1 | Jul 22 2021 17:20 utc | 34: Posted by: corvo | Jul 22 2021 17:46 utc | 35 @ 34 karlof1…. i guess we should find someone from mexico, as well as me from canada to fill in the ”north america” picture.. Posted by: james | Jul 22 2021 18:04 utc | 36 Good news, vaccinophobes!
Scientists prove the effectiveness of wormwood extract against coronavirus (RIA Novosti, July 20, 2021 — in Russian)
Posted by: S | Jul 22 2021 18:44 utc | 37 Russia ready to provide EU with a batch of COVID-19 vaccine for animals (RIA Novosti, July 21, 2021 — in Russian)
Posted by: S | Jul 22 2021 19:14 utc | 38 Good bye, Gandhi! Posted by: snake | Jul 22 2021 20:53 utc | 40 This is good stuff:
So, there already are NSA-trained Chinese speaking cybertrolls in action. Question in bold? Behold! Posted by: Maximilian | Jul 22 2021 21:24 utc | 42 @Ghost Ship #26 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2021 21:30 utc | 43 james @36– Mao @1– @ karlof1 | Jul 22 2021 23:08 utc | 45:
Fear of wildly disproportionate retaliation? It’s quasi-official Israeli policy that for each of their boys killed, at least 10 of the enemy need to die . . . and in the last few years I think they’ve added a zero to the retaliation proportion. Posted by: corvo | Jul 22 2021 23:20 utc | 46 Karlof, the Israeli aircraft aren’t entering Syrian airspace. That’s why they’re not being targeted. Posted by: Gordog | Jul 23 2021 0:08 utc | 47 @ Posted by: Tim | Jul 22 2021 16:44 utc | 31 Posted by: suzan | Jul 23 2021 0:32 utc | 48 @ Gordog | Jul 23 2021 0:08 utc | 47 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 23 2021 0:33 utc | 49
And of course Posted by: corvo | Jul 23 2021 0:33 utc | 50 Posted by: arby | Jul 23 2021 0:43 utc | 51 @44 karlof1.. that’s funny.. thanks! the bottom link is for all north america.. here it is again.. Posted by: james | Jul 23 2021 0:44 utc | 52 Psycho, a lot of the crucial particulars are shrouded in secrecy. Posted by: Gordog | Jul 23 2021 1:38 utc | 53 @48 suzan Posted by: Grieved | Jul 23 2021 1:45 utc | 54 @ 53 gordog.. good overview – thanks! we covered all of this here at moa in the past, but it is good to get a refresher that i believe is quite on target.. thanks.. Posted by: james | Jul 23 2021 1:59 utc | 55 @2 suzan – “No one appears to be qualified to hold forth on this issue definitively. There are clinical results but no clearly defined scientific results afaik.” Posted by: Grieved | Jul 23 2021 2:15 utc | 56 @ suzan Posted by: Grieved | Jul 23 2021 2:17 utc | 57 @ Posted by: Grieved | Jul 23 2021 1:45 utc | 54 Posted by: suzan | Jul 23 2021 2:23 utc | 58 @suzan Posted by: Grieved | Jul 23 2021 2:29 utc | 60 @57 suzan – “Ivermectin will not stop you from being a vector of transmission” Posted by: Grieved | Jul 23 2021 2:31 utc | 61 The global multi-year COVID-19 (non-)discussion Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 23 2021 2:36 utc | 62 @44 suzan Posted by: Tiger Lily | Jul 23 2021 2:40 utc | 63 @ Gordog | Jul 23 2021 1:38 utc | 53 with the follow up about Syria and Russian controlled defense under the unwritten rule….sigh Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 23 2021 2:40 utc | 64 Posted by: Tiger Lily | Jul 23 2021 2:40 utc | 62 Posted by: suzan | Jul 23 2021 2:47 utc | 65 Posted by: Grieved | Jul 23 2021 2:31 utc | 60 Posted by: suzan | Jul 23 2021 2:51 utc | 66 Loved this article on the “WSJ : What Your Lawn Says About Your” Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jul 23 2021 3:17 utc | 67 @ Christian J. Chuba | Jul 23 2021 3:17 utc | 66: Posted by: corvo | Jul 23 2021 3:35 utc | 68 Jovenel assasinated. Posted by: Lozion | Jul 23 2021 3:42 utc | 69 Posted by: suzan | Jul 23 2021 2:47 utc | 64 Posted by: Tiger Lily | Jul 23 2021 3:43 utc | 70 Saker is ecstatic over the new Sukhoi Su-75 “Checkmate”: Posted by: Robert Macaire | Jul 23 2021 3:58 utc | 71 @ suzan… i have always appreciated and admired your commentary… ditto grieved commentary… cheers.. Posted by: james | Jul 23 2021 4:06 utc | 72 words from a friend a few days ago on the topic of the pandemic.. Posted by: james | Jul 23 2021 4:09 utc | 73 Sell wheat to USAi? The thieving empire will buy all that surplus Aussie wheat at the lower Russian price and never pay for it. Aussies can’t sell wheat to China any more as they have insulted China at every opportunity. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 23 2021 4:49 utc | 74 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 23 2021 4:49 utc | 73 Posted by: Paul | Jul 23 2021 6:26 utc | 75 Paul #74 Posted by: u | Jul 23 2021 8:46 utc | 76 karlof1 on the great Russian canal. Thank you I am going to have a look at all those waterways and interconnections. Just to get an idea as where the next colour revolutions might begin ;)) Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 23 2021 8:50 utc | 78 @S (28)
General question: where does one draw the line on what can or can’t be “canceled”? One example I can think of, if it’s as good as any, is the Yasukuni shrine in Japan, which notoriously honors war criminals and understandably has been an object of criticism in China – possibly the opposite extreme compared to the situation with France regarding Gudin if I’m getting this right. What do you reckon would be a healthy ‘middle ground’ w.r.t. both countries’ situations? Posted by: joey_n | Jul 23 2021 9:07 utc | 79 Posted by: u | Jul 23 2021 8:46 utc | 75 Posted by: Paul | Jul 23 2021 9:18 utc | 80 Mao | Jul 22 2021 13:59 utc | 1 + Gordog and others Posted by: Stonebird | Jul 23 2021 9:35 utc | 81 A fascinating documentary about Isabel Crook who is 105 and lived in China for 90years. She wrote Ten Mile Inn with her husband which documented the Land Reforms in the 40s and her work influenced Mao’s Land Reform Law. Posted by: ukdefector | Jul 23 2021 10:36 utc | 82 Grieved @ 59 Posted by: john | Jul 23 2021 11:00 utc | 83 @ Gordog
Posted by: Rêver | Jul 23 2021 11:13 utc | 84 J.Swift 13# Posted by: willie | Jul 23 2021 12:31 utc | 85 Suzan wrote: Posted by: jinn | Jul 23 2021 13:17 utc | 86
Eh ben mon pôte ! Je n’ai jamais vu tel vomissement de conneries ! What an embarrasingly awful collection of pre-digested crap (excuse my french thar, I is bereft, bereft I tell ‘ee of words ! Thou vile, ô thou obnoxious extrusion of the bowels – these words are not enough, please allow me to quote the Cossacks :
Je vais mieux maintenant, I feel better, and bettair in every way ! Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Jul 23 2021 13:57 utc | 87
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Jul 23 2021 14:16 utc | 88 Gordog @Jul23 1:38 #53 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 23 2021 14:48 utc | 89 Israel clarifies the “effectiveness” of the Pfizer vaccine
I.e. the Pfizer vaccine is only 39% effective, which makes it worse than the Sinovac vaccine (efficacy 50%). However, it is important to highlight that it is still useful because it is 88% effective against symptomatic illness, if you compare with not vaccinating at all.
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How soon forgotten the words of Danton, when we allow Macon, sorry, Macron to deny us choice, “Tout s’émeut, tout s’ébranle, tout brûle de combattre, tout se lève en France d’un bout de l’empire à l’autre.. Ah, if only !
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Jul 23 2021 15:34 utc | 91 @ VK #89
Should even the “pandemic” exist in a fair Posted by: Covidémence | Jul 23 2021 16:52 utc | 92 “Knock ou le triomphe de la médecine moderne ” Posted by: Covidemence | Jul 23 2021 17:09 utc | 94 When discussing any EVENT or Theme or topic, please share the key actors involved to understand the overarching goals and driving forces. Also, there is a hierarchy among these actors which looks something like this… Posted by: Max | Jul 23 2021 17:56 utc | 96 http://thesaker.is/many-interesting-developments-in-russia/ It being a somewhat slow news day I decided to further investigate the works of Peter Linebaugh, whose The Many-Headed Hydra: Sailors, Slaves, Commoners and the Hidden History of the Revolutionary Atlantic I’ve referred to several times, several of which caught my eye. After a short investigation, I opted to read the preview to Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, and Resistance. IMO, once you read the Intro you’ll want to read the entire anthology. Another book that I decided to order is The Magna Carta Manifesto: Liberties and Commons for All. Linebaugh and I share the idea that Neoliberalism constitutes another round of Enclosure, other wise known as theft of the Commons from humanity by those I term the Anti-Humans, a term IMO he would endorse. karlof1@98, thank you for your suggestions & links. thank also the outlaw historian for his very sage observations on saker. Posted by: emersonreturn | Jul 23 2021 19:37 utc | 99 As I predicted, the American vaccination campaign was a fiasco, and WaPo indeed removed its vaccine tracker number from its home page (I predicted that here, the day it first came out). On its place, there’s a map by State (I think this is in order to throw the blame to the governors instead of Joe Biden), and you have to click on it to see the overall numbers:
As expected, China left the USA in the dust (it already distributed 1.5 billion doses as of today). More importantly, Biden fell well below his campaign, which had a target of 70% of the entire adult population fully vaccinated by Independence Day (July 4th). 162.4 million equals 68% of the USA’s adult population (a little bit more than 28% of its entire population is below 18) – and that’s 20 days after the deadline (I checked the link at July 23). |
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