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July 15, 2021
Open Thread 2021-054
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Make it stop! Posted by: gottlieb | Jul 15 2021 13:45 utc | 1 Black America is a Fatherless Child… Posted by: Dogon Priest | Jul 15 2021 13:57 utc | 2 Interesting read by Engdahl
Fit for 55 — EU Green Deal and the Industrial Collapse of Europe Posted by: Down South | Jul 15 2021 13:59 utc | 3 The Duran can be hit and miss, but there is a new video updating the Assange extradition hearing which is actually quite good, going into fairly strong detail on the British (and US) court backgrounds and procedures, some of the political fencing going on, etc. Includes US Attorney Robert Barnes who provides some pretty astute input. Worth a listen, I think. Posted by: J Swift | Jul 15 2021 14:12 utc | 4 More drivel from the Guardian, the UK’s #1 birdcage liner. The US intel agencies leak Posted by: Kadath | Jul 15 2021 14:17 utc | 5 @ gottlieb | Jul 15 2021 13:45 utc | 1: Posted by: corvo | Jul 15 2021 14:19 utc | 6 Good article on what is currently taking place in South Africa
Posted by: Down South | Jul 15 2021 14:30 utc | 7 @Posted by: gottlieb | Jul 15 2021 13:45 utc | 1 Posted by: librul | Jul 15 2021 14:33 utc | 8 @1 Posted by: Kartoschka | Jul 15 2021 14:36 utc | 9 Moeletsi Mbeki is former President Thabo Mbeki’s brother
ANC is unravelling: Political analyst Moeletsi Mbeki Posted by: Down South | Jul 15 2021 14:36 utc | 10 In re: EU Green Deal at #3 Posted by: Antoinetta III | Jul 15 2021 14:46 utc | 11 For those who have not been following: there has been a huge viral content storm over a series of tweets talking about why MAGA etc.
Posted by: c1ue | Jul 15 2021 14:47 utc | 12 @1 Let me guess…they conveniently found these documents on a park bench in London, right? But hey, good on them….it only took them, what, five years to forge these documents. Pathetic. Posted by: Mataman | Jul 15 2021 14:51 utc | 13 Dr. Michael Hudson and Radhika Desai co-authored a paper which was part of the recent Valdai discussions.
Assuming these figures are accurate – these are the dimensions of the stakes in the dollar as reserve currency. Posted by: c1ue | Jul 15 2021 14:56 utc | 14 i refuse to even open a guardian link… fuck them.. they ain’t getting any ad revenue thanks to me… Posted by: james | Jul 15 2021 15:00 utc | 15 @Dogon Priest #2 Posted by: Peltast | Jul 15 2021 15:10 utc | 16 Colombia Reports: Colombia’s war crimes tribunal charged 15 members of a now-defunct army unit with the murder of 176 people and forced disappearance of 120 others. Among the charged former soldiers is convicted Colonel Hernan Mejia, who was named “Best Soldier of the Americas” twice and wants to run for president for the far-right Democratic Center party next year. Posted by: Maracatu | Jul 15 2021 15:16 utc | 17 Posted by: Down South | Jul 15 2021 13:59 utc | 3 Posted by: pnyx | Jul 15 2021 15:27 utc | 18 Retaliation over the Balkans leak?
–//– Posted by: c1ue | Jul 15 2021 14:56 utc | 14 Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 15 2021 15:53 utc | 20 What Did You Expect?
BTW… Any news about Ryanair by OACI/ICAO? Posted by: Rêver | Jul 15 2021 16:07 utc | 21 @ Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 15 2021 15:53 utc | 20 Posted by: Down South | Jul 15 2021 14:30 utc | 7 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 15 2021 16:11 utc | 23 @ Bemildred (#20) & c1ue (#14), Posted by: Max | Jul 15 2021 16:32 utc | 24 Regarding Antoinetta III and ‘abiotic’ oil. Posted by: Gordog | Jul 15 2021 16:34 utc | 25 Volcker did the polar opposite: he spiked interest rates in order to cut inflation down. Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 15 2021 16:34 utc | 26 Did the Dead Ducks die from Golden Showers? Posted by: librul | Jul 15 2021 16:39 utc | 27 @ Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 15 2021 16:34 utc | 26 What are your ideas to address the Monetary System & Imperialism? Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 15 2021 16:49 utc | 29 @Antoinetta III | Jul 15 2021 14:46 utc | 11
Prove to us that he claims the climate hasn’t always changed. It is you guys who deny the climate the right to change.
If you subscribe to the idea that all hydrocarbons have a biotic origin, please tell us when life died out on Saturn’s Moon Titan, it has Methane lakes and rivers, and a dense Methane atmosphere. Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 15 2021 16:52 utc | 30 Posted by: vk | Jul 15 2021 16:48 utc | 28 Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 15 2021 16:56 utc | 31 @ pnyx | Jul 15 2021 15:27 utc | 18
Once in a generation events doesn’t mean it never happened before, but it is an indication that people with amnesia have no ability to remember such things. Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 15 2021 16:57 utc | 32 @Gordog | Jul 15 2021 16:34 utc | 25 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 15 2021 17:00 utc | 33 @ Bemildred (#29), thanks for revealing your reality. Your comment (#31) is just propaganda. Posted by: Max | Jul 15 2021 17:05 utc | 34 News from the first world Posted by: Mina | Jul 15 2021 17:15 utc | 35 @Bemildred #20, 26 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 15 2021 17:16 utc | 36 @Gordog #25 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 15 2021 17:25 utc | 37 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 15 2021 17:16 utc | 36 Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 15 2021 17:26 utc | 38 @Max #24 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 15 2021 17:31 utc | 39 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 15 2021 17:25 utc | 37 Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 15 2021 17:33 utc | 40 @Bemildred #38 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 15 2021 17:39 utc | 41 @ c1ue (# 36 & #39), your opinions shared are mistaken and misleading. Posted by: Max | Jul 15 2021 17:46 utc | 42 c1ue: @41 Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 15 2021 17:50 utc | 43 @Max #42 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 15 2021 18:10 utc | 44 @Bemildred #43 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 15 2021 18:23 utc | 45 Yes, the violence won’t spread to the other provinces except parts around Johannesburg where the Zulu migrant workers stay. Posted by: Down South | Jul 15 2021 18:34 utc | 46 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 15 2021 18:23 utc | 45 Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 15 2021 18:42 utc | 48 @ c1ue (#44), again you misconstrue, misrepresents and mislead without answering questions and providing any evidence, because they will DEBUNK your cockamamie opinions and most likely LIES. Posted by: Max | Jul 15 2021 18:47 utc | 49 Norwegian @ 30
The Great Zero Carbon Criminal Conspiracy
Posted by: Down South | Jul 15 2021 18:52 utc | 50 Pepe Escobar tells us what happened in Dushanbe at the SCO Foreign Ministers confab. China’s Wang Yi: A nice review of some of the history we have been discussing: Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 15 2021 19:15 utc | 52 @Down South | Jul 15 2021 18:52 utc | 50
Still, some people manage to call anyone who says this a “climate change denier”, it is deeply dishonest. Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 15 2021 20:35 utc | 53 @ Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 15 2021 20:35 utc | 53 The basic illogic of the “Earth’s climate is always changing”: Posted by: Roger | Jul 15 2021 21:31 utc | 55 @ Bemildred and VK Posted by: suzan | Jul 15 2021 21:32 utc | 56 Posted by: suzan | Jul 15 2021 21:32 utc | 56 Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 15 2021 21:38 utc | 57 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 15 2021 20:35 utc | 53 Posted by: Roger | Jul 15 2021 21:41 utc | 58 @ ‘Roger’, who demands peer-reviewed papers on abiotic oil. Posted by: Gordog | Jul 15 2021 21:43 utc | 59 @ Posted by: suzan | Jul 15 2021 21:32 utc | 56 I’d note unironically that Reagan ran on “Make America Great”… Posted by: arby | Jul 15 2021 22:59 utc | 61 Posted by: suzan | Jul 15 2021 21:32 utc | 56 Posted by: arby | Jul 15 2021 23:03 utc | 62 Posted by: arby | Jul 15 2021 23:03 utc | 62 Posted by: suzan | Jul 15 2021 23:24 utc | 63 Posted by: Down South | Jul 15 2021 18:34 utc | 46 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 15 2021 23:48 utc | 64 The U.S. getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan so fast has got me scratching my head. Overall, it looks to me like Biden’s brain trust realizes the wheels are coming off and Russia, China and the BRI are not only unstoppable, but the U.S. imperial forces will be run over if they don’t get out first. So they throw the hot potato to Erdogan and to the Brits and Israelis and now they are more focused on Latin America. Vicky Nuland can give Uncle Joe some updates. Posted by: migueljose | Jul 16 2021 0:22 utc | 65 Haiti, Colombia Posted by: migueljose | Jul 16 2021 0:53 utc | 66 https://news.antiwar.com/2021/07/14/not-invited-targeted-nato-excluded-belarus-russia-from-32-nation-partnership-meeting/ Posted by: daffyDuct | Jul 16 2021 1:20 utc | 67 @Posted by: Gordog | Jul 15 2021 21:43 utc | 59 Posted by: Roger | Jul 16 2021 1:24 utc | 68 Reading an excellent book on the failure of the South American “Pink Tide” by Fabio Luis Barbosa dos Santos, “Power And Impotence: A History of South America Under Pregressivism (1998-2016). It covers all of the countries in surprising detail, a really incredible amount of work went into the book, it even covers changes in Cuba during the period. Well worth the read. Posted by: Roger | Jul 16 2021 1:36 utc | 69 27 vs 0
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How I came to Realize I was Wrong About Peak Oil Posted by: Down South | Jul 16 2021 7:28 utc | 72 @Down South | Jul 16 2021 7:28 utc | 72 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 16 2021 7:50 utc | 73 More on abiotic oil from Engdahl
Confessions of an ‘ex’ Peak Oil Believe Posted by: Down South | Jul 16 2021 8:20 utc | 74 @Down South | Jul 16 2021 8:20 utc | 74
Yes, ref. my comment @30 about vietnamese oil in granite (basalt and granite rocks are roughly the same, both igneous). This is well known, except in circles who prefer not to know. Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 16 2021 8:33 utc | 75 With your permission b I’d like to respond to james from the Balkans thread
But james, that is exactly the point I have tried and failed to make clear. Posted by: John Cleary | Jul 16 2021 8:36 utc | 76 Interesting article by Gilad Atzmon in the Unz review on Israel’s problems with the Pfizer vaccine. Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jul 16 2021 9:46 utc | 77 Haiti Posted by: migueljose | Jul 16 2021 11:19 utc | 78 Regarding the abiotic origin of oil (and natural gas), it has to be considered that the rate of generation is not likely to match our current rate of extraction. If these hydrocarbons are indeed being generated somewhere inside the earth, they must have been for aeons. It logically follows that the rate of formation would be slow, or else we would be drowning in the stuff. Posted by: Lurk | Jul 16 2021 13:19 utc | 79 Trusted News Initiative? Posted by: Hemiola | Jul 16 2021 13:39 utc | 80 migueljose @Jul16 11:19 #78
IMO there is a great deal of propaganda/disinfo about Moise and what has been going on in Haiti. No one should accept news reports at face value. Nor can you trust what people tell you if that person is also getting their info from oligarch-friendly news reports. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 16 2021 13:48 utc | 81 @Hemiola | Jul 16 2021 13:39 utc | 80
The other presents a detailed overview of the mechanisms of action of ivm:
Read the articles for yourself if you want to be informed. Posted by: Lurk | Jul 16 2021 14:26 utc | 82 ‘Death Spiral’: Ex-Labour Voters Don’t Even Know Who Keir Starmer Is Thailand has approved the traditional herbal medicine Andrographis paniculata as a treatment for Covid-19 Posted by: BM | Jul 16 2021 15:34 utc | 84 @Bemildred #48 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 16 2021 15:38 utc | 85 One possible source for “abiotic” oil is tied up with the question; Where did our oxygen come from? Posted by: Stonebird | Jul 16 2021 15:40 utc | 86 The true reason why the West doesn’t call China “socialist” or “communist”: @ Posted by: c1ue | Jul 16 2021 15:38 utc | 85 @Max #49 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 16 2021 15:53 utc | 89 Behind the Vaccine Veil: Doctor cites ‘whistleblowers’ inside CDC who claim injections have already killed 50,000 Americans Posted by: BM | Jul 16 2021 15:53 utc | 90 @arby #61 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 16 2021 15:55 utc | 91 @vk #88
Now replace land with credit and/or money. Posted by: c1ue | Jul 16 2021 16:01 utc | 92 @Roger #55 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 16 2021 16:09 utc | 93 @Lurk #79 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 16 2021 16:21 utc | 94 Fair enough. Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 16 2021 16:26 utc | 95 @Down South #74 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 16 2021 16:32 utc | 96 @c1ue | Jul 16 2021 16:09 utc | 93 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 16 2021 16:35 utc | 97 @Stonebird #86 Posted by: c1ue | Jul 16 2021 16:41 utc | 98 Yet another example of MSM nonsense:
It will take more time for the full data picture to come into focus, but it seems highly likely that there was a major increase in overdose deaths during COVID and its attendant lockdowns and other restrictions. Posted by: c1ue | Jul 16 2021 16:48 utc | 99 @ c1ue (#89), Posted by: Max | Jul 16 2021 16:54 utc | 100 |
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