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June 07, 2021

Space Oddities

Jeff Bezos is going to space, says a CNN report:

Jeff Bezos will be flying to space on the first crewed flight of the New Shepard, the rocket ship made by his space company, Blue Origin. The flight is scheduled for July 20th, just 15 days after he is set to resign as CEO of Amazon.

Blue Origin said Bezos' younger brother, Mark Bezos, will also join the flight.
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If all goes according to plan, Bezos — the world's richest person with a net worth of $187 billion — will be the first of the billionaire space tycoons to experience a ride aboard the rocket technology that he's poured millions into developing. Not even Elon Musk, whose SpaceX builds rockets powerful enough to enter orbit around Earth, has announced plans to travel to space aboard one of his companies human-worthy crew capsules.

The world richest person will of course not pay for the trip.

Blue Origin as well as its competitor SpaceX are part of NASA's commercial crew and human landing system (HLS) programs which subsidize and support the development of various space flight and moon landing systems.

This was supposed to lead to the development of several commercial space services from which NASA can then select one for each of its missions. But when Blue Origin lost out in a recent bid to actually build the human landing system the company immediately launched a protest:

Blue Origin says in the GAO protest that its “National Team,” which included Draper, Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, bid $5.99 billion for the HLS award, slightly more than double SpaceX’s bid. However, it argues that it was not given the opportunity to revise that bid when NASA concluded that the funding available would not allow it to select two bidders, as originally anticipated. NASA requested $3.3 billion for HLS in its fiscal year 2021 budget proposal but received only $850 million in an omnibus appropriations bill passed in December 2020.

Having failed to bilk the government out of several more billions Bezos called on his lobbyists:

In recent years, Blue Origin also has given its operation in the nation’s capital more muscle. It spent nearly $2 million in lobbying last year, up from a little more than $400,000 in 2015, according to OpenSecrets.org, which tracks spending. The company’s political action committee has amped up its donations as well, spending $320,000 in 2020, up from $22,000 in 2016.

A few envelopes changed hands and achieved the desired result:

Democratic Senator Maria Cantwell—from Amazon’s home state of Washington—tacked on $10 billion for NASA into the Endless Frontier Act, a bill that allocates funding to conduct research in technological innovation and space exploration. Presumably, Blue Origin will get a chunk of this, since Cantwell’s amendment specifically states that NASA will subsidize “design, development, testing, and evaluation for not fewer than 2 entities” for the Human Landing System Program. (Both Blue Origin and Dynetics had competed for the contract.)

That led to to a pissing contest with Elon Musk's SpaceX:

In a flier, SpaceX said the Cantwell amendment “undermines the federal government procurement process, rewards Jeff Bezos with a $10 billion sole-source hand-out, and will throw NASA’s Artemis program into years of litigation.” It adds that Blue Origin “has not produced a single rocket or spacecraft capable of reaching orbit.”
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Blue Origin came back with its own flier subtitled “What is Elon Musk afraid of...a little competition?” with itemized “lies” in SpaceX’s flier. Its bottom line: “Elon Musk repeatedly talks about the value of competition, but when it comes to NASA’s Human Landing System (HLS) program, he wants it all to himself.”

That Bezos is suddenly lauding the merit of competition, after having lost a bid with a way too high price, is more than a bit hypocritical:

Washington, D.C., Attorney General Karl Racine announced Tuesday he's suing Amazon on antitrust grounds, alleging the company's practices have unfairly raised prices for consumers and suppressed innovation.

Racine is seeking to end what he alleges is Amazon's illegal use of price agreements to edge out competition; the lawsuit also asks for damages and penalties to deter similar conduct.

Amazon, Bezos' main company, also gets billions in subsidies and does not pay taxes.

Bezos, Musk and other billionaires are errors in our economic-political systems. They should be eliminated.

I am fine with subsidizing Bezos' or Musk's flights to space.

But don't make it round-trip tickets.

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Posted by: David G Horsman | Jun 8 2021 21:31 utc | 101

karlof1 | Jun 8 2021 20:48 utc | 99

This is what the "Malthusians" want according to Ehret. We will be reduced to; "Tilting at "windmills and photovoltaic cell technology". a la Don Quixote.

It is true that the "exploration of ideas and the advance of humanity as a whole" has taken a beating recently. That it is the design behind many of the world's problems, => that the "rest" should know their place and suffer silently at the service of the master race(s). The idea of a "chosen" people (including the English, American and Israelis), is in fact restricted to the top level. The traditional, all powerful "families". (400?)

There are many claimants for the "top", but unfortunately these want to exclude any unexpected (genetic or technical) improvement, that might put their power structure in question.

So we get Eugenics. Pandemics. and Wars. (HG Wells, and Cecil Rhodes)

The simple idea that people would be "self-regulating" does not seeem to have entered their heads. One visible result of better education for women in africa was the reduction of unwanted births. As was the handing out of free contraceptives to girls in defavoured areas of London in the 70's. Highly "immoral" according to local churches etc. But effective. Someone had taken time to calculate the cost of unwanted children on the health and welfare services. Cheaper to give girls the possibility to NOT have children.

In Africa, children are seen as a "retirement" necessity as long as the extended family structure remains valuable. Probably goes for Gaza as well.
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Aside; The IDF are concentrating on children and adolescents. Vids with "soldiers" kicking children who are held by others, or taking/"arresting" 7 year-olds from school classes etc. This more than anything, else shows the depravity of present day Israel. Bennett could possibly be worse than Netanyahu.

oops, going off topic.....
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Ehret, actually shows just how further research into other-worldly and futuristic techniques have been shut off. Either the "families" possess them themselves, or they are scared that someone might find out about them - but are not under their control.

There is hope that both Russia and China - who have apparently given up hope of any "rapprochement" with the EU or US - will break out of the mental straight jacket we find ourselves in. (The Russians are now "being realistic" and not expecting any lifting of sanctions - ever, according to one Rus MP. "So ignore them and do what needs to be done")

Posted by: Stonebird | Jun 8 2021 21:51 utc | 102

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 8 2021 20:48 utc | 99

Interesting article, just by coincidence I was reading in vz.ru about a new type of fast neutron breeder reactor with a closed fuel cycle, BREST-300-OD.

https://vz.ru/society/2021/6/8/1103016.html

Posted by: Paco | Jun 8 2021 21:52 utc | 103

@95 I have a friend called Joe Blow (not his real name). He lives in a small condo in Mexico very frugally. He has played the stock market for years and he's got quite good at it. If he was to sell all his holdings he would have millions but he just sells enough now and then to live on. He hates paying taxes because he doesn't trust the government. He has no family and no dependents. I am trying to get myself written into his will. No luck so far.

Posted by: dh | Jun 8 2021 22:15 utc | 104

the alien is already here but it has turned against us b/c as Ripley said, they want it for their bioweapons program.

it's not impossible that somebody somewhere has been planet hopping for, oh, 10000 years, give a take a zero or 3, no wormholes, no warp drive, just lots of time, maybe the sleep of reason...but then they got here and...who was it said in one of them Alien movies, "Earth. What a shithole." and in obedience to their prime directive or whatever, when they got to this outhouse at the end of the universe, they just kept right on truckin'.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 8 2021 22:33 utc | 105

if anything alien or weird does show up, the world can relax, cuz the indispensable nation is on top of it, though the movie version is not supposed to make one long for the real thing.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 8 2021 22:45 utc | 106

Space Oddities, 2021, sounds familiar somehow.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 8 2021 22:50 utc | 107

@b
Hoping to see a piece or two about the pending MH17 “trial”.
An interesting post today at Dances With Bears.

Posted by: nwwoods | Jun 8 2021 22:59 utc | 108

Stonebird @102--

Yes, I've been following Ehret and critiquing his thesis since its inception back in 2018. He's somewhat zealous which causes him to make occasional errors, which have been points of discussion here previously, mostly between me and Grieved. But he does make a contribution to my overall thesis of the longstanding and ongoing war between the Anti-Human elites and Humanity, whose attributes are clearer now than perhaps at any previous time thanks to many scholars and statesmen. Ehret seems able to write and publish an essay each week, so we'll get another opportunity to discuss this important issue soon.

Paco @103--

Thanks much for linking that article!! Using lead as a coolant! Wow! I read last year where ROSATOM announced they'd closed the fuel cycle and were beginning to construct reactors with that capability. Linked within is this fascinating article from April 2020 detailing the woeful state of the Outlaw US Empire's nuclear power establishment where you can read why it's no wonder they don't want Iran to enrich. In Asimov's Foundation and Empire, one of the main reasons why the Galactic Empire was in decay was because it forgot how to service "atomics"--amazing that man's prescience!

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 9 2021 0:00 utc | 109

B @ 76 and others who developed the thread:

Jeff Bozo likely puts the bulk of his money into trusts in the names of family members and various subsidiary companies, the headquarters of which are located in tax havens. Tax havens like Delaware, which Creepy Uncle Joe represented as Senator in the US Senate from 1973 to 2009. No doubt Jeff B may have money in trusts in offshore tax havens like the proverbial Cayman Islands.

Some of these companies may earn no income at all but just report losses on their income statements. (That's why they exist - to report losses.) These losses are offset against the profits of other companies. That's probably how in 2011, despite his wealth, Bozo was able to report a loss on his tax return and qualify for a tax credit of US$4,000 for his children.

Comments by Jackrabbit, VK and Mao may be well correct though in most tax jurisdictions, capital gains tax is only payable on the profit made after the asset is sold. Loopholes in US capital gains tax legislation are neither here nor there if the asset is not sold during the financial year. And many if not most tax jurisdictions allow the profit to offset any losses made on the sale of other assets.

Mao Cheng Ji's observation @ 83 about the Swiss authorities taxing people's primary residences (as if they were receiving rent income from themselves) appears to be a reference to property tax.

Posted by: Jen | Jun 9 2021 0:04 utc | 110

Professpr Michael Hudson on Bill Gates, applies to Bezo and Musk too.

"The fact is, he’s really stupid. Once you get $100 billion, your IQ drops 30%. And so he’s suffered from that. You want to just sort of belong. You’re not the same person anymore. And once you inherit money, right there, your IQ goes down 20%. So now he’s operating with 50% of an IQ."

Posted by: Debz54 | Jun 9 2021 2:05 utc | 111

@ Debz54 | Jun 9 2021 2:05 utc | 111 with the quote from Michael Hudson about Bill Gates.....PHEW!


I wonder how he really feels....

I just want to add also that inheritance feeds the exceptionalism stupidity by at least 50% and I understand if that puts some people over 100% stupidity.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 9 2021 2:21 utc | 112


You only have a small part of the story mr.b , you need to dig deeper into what Bezos is doing and why he's doing it...he's smart guy....time is short.

Posted by: nobody | Jun 9 2021 2:34 utc | 113

@ nobody | Jun 9 2021 2:34 utc | 113 who would have us feel something deeper about the Bezos space ride.

These sentiments are coming from one of us lesser meat sacks who has had to figure out how to and succeed healing himself from a traumatic brain injury in the Bezos anti-humanistic world.

He has and continues to act like a self centered asshole, driving humanity along the fascist path of elite control with god of Mammon as their idol. So if his time is short, good for the rest of humanity that progresses forward one asshole death at a time.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 9 2021 2:58 utc | 114

#114

Bezos knows more than you think and the little rocket ride is part of that. Dig beeper into what he's doing in Texas and why he's doing it.

Closed minds benefit no one, Your time is also short and so is mine.

Posted by: nobody | Jun 9 2021 3:18 utc | 115

@ nobody.. any more riddles? or is it possible to speak more directly here??

Posted by: james | Jun 9 2021 4:22 utc | 116

@ nobody | Jun 9 2021 3:18 utc | 115 who accuses me of a closed mind...LOL

I highly doubt that Bezos is setting up QEEG training and treatment facilities in Texas to improve humanities mental health so color me nonplused.

I am proud of what I have done with my life and you are trying to tell me that Bezos is doing something to make up for his life of fucking over other people for profit and enable the continuation of the global private finance jackboot of the West. I hope he rots in his hell.

I worked with people in distribution that worked under Koch and Bezos and they testify that Bezos is far worse on employees than the Koch brothers....a pretty low bar.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 9 2021 4:33 utc | 117

Posted by: nobody | Jun 9 2021 2:34 utc | 113

You sound like QAnon for Bezos.

'Trust the Plan'...?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 9 2021 5:29 utc | 118

@ James

No, I'm done.

I doubt that mr. b wants to go further with the tunnels and the clock that Bezos is building, that would open a large can of scientific worms he could not cope with. I rather doubt that most here would want that conversation either.

Posted by: nobody | Jun 9 2021 6:36 utc | 119


@ psychohistorian

I don't particularly like Bezos.

Posted by: nobody | Jun 9 2021 6:45 utc | 120

Jen | Jun 9 2021 0:04 utc | 110

"Mao Cheng Ji's observation @ 83 about the Swiss authorities taxing people's primary residences (as if they were receiving rent income from themselves) appears to be a reference to property tax."

Not quite; if you own your own appartment or house (about 75% of the Swiss live in appartments, they tend not to be homeowners), then the tax authorities calculate a theoretical rent which you would have to pay to a landlord. Which is added as part of your "income", and then the resulting total sum is taxed.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jun 9 2021 6:54 utc | 121

Is this even happening?

We see Musk's rockets fly around (and crash) but I don't remember Amazonrockets making the news. The only news I heard about them is them and another company suing Musk because it's anti-competitive in NASA or something.

Posted by: Smith | Jun 9 2021 7:15 utc | 122

The ability to communicate with anyone, anywhere in near-real time was not foreseen by America's Founding Fathers, and so the companies that came to provide Internet and related services managed to keep ahead of legislation and regulations, and in fact, to grow powerful enough to influence and shape any legislation and regulations affecting them.

Posted by: Malchik Ralf | Jun 9 2021 8:11 utc | 123

Regarding the latest UFO information from the point of view of those observing all those fantastic people on earth.
https://youtu.be/phG999W3NWU

Posted by: John Hagan | Jun 9 2021 9:41 utc | 124

There is another agenda for the UFO revelations.

Posted by: paul | Jun 9 2021 11:17 utc | 125

@Norwegian
"How do you confuse and divide people? By constantly bombarding them with nonsense, insisting that real things never happened and insisting that truth is false, and falsehoods are true."

Quite. But, there's a level of intelligence though, where you have to be below that level to believe nonsense and be unable to deduce it's nonsense.

From an old Conspiracy Keanu: "What if the government created retarded conspiracy theories... to make all conspiracy theories look retarded?"

Posted by: calzone | Jun 9 2021 11:21 utc | 126

calzone @ 126

What you describe is one flavor of controlled opposition. Now try to convince anyone that such a thing exists. Try to convince anyone that their favored leader/prophet/guru is controlled opposition. As an example, start saying Bernie Sanders is controllled opposition and see how many friends you have left. Any who see straight past your little koan becomes a very isolated person.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 9 2021 11:55 utc | 127

By the way, Bezoz is a big fan of the science fiction series "The Expanse". Amazon Prime bought it up when it was about to be canceled.

Posted by: m | Jun 9 2021 13:51 utc | 128

people believing in UFO's is far more rational than people believing in things like Nordstream 2 and BRI. it is so funny to watch smart people w/their haute en bas rubbish scoff at people they think are dumber than them.

as if pumping more gas into the environment becomes ok because Russia is doing it. same thing with BRI. low-interest loans or slapping a CCP label on something makes it not only socialist, but "green."

the existence of ET life is not contrary to laws of physics. nor is them visiting this planet.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 9 2021 15:29 utc | 129

infinitely renewable energy already exists. in multiple forms.

the problem is that we can't make weapons from it. the idea that the chinese and whoever are pursuing more "star power" b/c we need more energy is purest nonsense.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 9 2021 15:34 utc | 130

m @128

It figures Bozos would like that "woke" nonsense.

I tried watching a couple episodes because I was assured that it was "hard" sci-fi, but the science in it wasn't all that hard. The show was just hard to watch. I guess that counts as hard (to watch) sci-fi?

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 9 2021 15:35 utc | 131

HELP! THE ALIENS ARE ABOUT TO INVADE EARTH!

I just read one of the most brilliant pieces by Caitlin Johnstone.

Fermi's Other Paradox

In the summer of 1950, four nuclear physicists were walking to lunch from the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. Their names were Emil Konopinski, Herbert York, Edward Teller, and Enrico Fermi.

One of them was not human.

I disagree with her conclusion. But I do not think she believes in her own bullshit either. But that is just what makes the piece of fiction so brilliant.

Fermi's paradox can be fully explained by the anthropic principle: There are an infinite number of possible universes, but abiogenesis is so extremely unlikely that the changes of more than one technologically advanced civilization existing in any observable universe are near zero.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jun 9 2021 15:39 utc | 132

@ calzone | Jun 9 2021 11:21 utc | 126

Intelligence is not measured on a one-dimensional scale. Very intelligent people can be very stupid at the same time, and believe in nonsense. I know people who are very intelligent, but also have a strong tendency to conform to authority without question. They don't want their world view to be challenged, and therefore choose to accept claims they would reject if it wasn't controversial.

Yes, saying things like that the US never went to the Moon confuses people and discredits well founded criticism against authorities at the same time.

@ oldhippie | Jun 9 2021 11:55 utc | 127
Agreed.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 9 2021 15:40 utc | 133

"infinitely renewable energy already exists..."

Someone here understands neither the Laws of Thermodynamics nor what infinity is.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 9 2021 15:40 utc | 134

William Gruff @134--

Yep, that commenter finally unfurled its flag, which is of a design I suspected.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 9 2021 15:58 utc | 135

@131 Weren't you reassured to find that humans are still obsessed with the same trivial nonsense (and hair styling) hundreds of years from now?

Posted by: dh | Jun 9 2021 16:00 utc | 136

@ Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 9 2021 15:40 utc | 133

The USA sent the first man to the Moon, but it didn't win the Space Race. It's that simple.

The thing is: it was later discovered the Moon didn't have enough water to make its colonization economically/militarily worth it at the time. The only water that exists on the Moon is residual, superficial water that comes from the outside (meteorites). The Soviets already knew that because they sent probes there and returned with soil samples.

Unclassified Soviet documents tells us the true story: the USSR never sent a man to the Moon because it never tried. There was not enough water, therefore it was not worth it. There was, however, many plans to send more unmanned rovers to the Moon, to study it more and collect more soil samples. The Soviet space doctrine towards the Moon already was, by the time the Americans sent Neil Armstrong and co., fully directed towards unmanned rovers, not manned spaceships.

Nowadays, however, colonization of the Moon is economically worth it. The development and proliferation of space cargo technology and services cheapened sending supplies to the space, and the Moon has other valuable natural resources. On the military field, viable weapons are finally reaching space. As the Chinese have already stated, their space program are not for pure propaganda purposes anymore: they consider space exploration a legitimate, even mainstream, area of the economy already.

Posted by: vk | Jun 9 2021 16:31 utc | 137

@ nobody | Jun 9 2021 6:36 utc | 119.. thanks nobody.. i appreciate your response..

Posted by: james | Jun 9 2021 16:44 utc | 138

@ Petri Krohn | Jun 9 2021 15:39 utc | 132:

I enjoyed Caitlin Johnstone's story quite a lot; thanks for linking to it. That much said, I'm more inclined to think that Gore Vidal came a lot closer to the mark in his play Visit to a Small Planet: any alien likely to visit us would be bored, immature, and dissolute; the rest of the aliens would have better things to do than bother with us.

Posted by: corvoq | Jun 9 2021 16:45 utc | 139

More taking the name of science in vain...

Infinitely renewable energy is an oxymoron if you assign any usual meaning to the words "infinitely" or "renewable." And there may be a misuse of the word "energy" lurking in there too.

The laws of physics include things like dashboard cameras that could take a picture of a spaceship just like it can take a picture of a meteoric fireball. More exotic, radars that would spot spaceships as well as missiles are laws of physics at work And so on and so forth. So, no, the laws of physics very much do argue against visits from ET having occurred.

Most action movies and TV shows violate Newton's Third Law of Motion, so it is kind of amusing to see someone using, well, "unique" standards of hard science for SF shows. The Expanse has free fall when the spaceships are not accelerating, which most certianly makes it hard SF by TV standards. As for the moronic notion The Expanse is particularly "Woke," the series actually believes capitalism will conquer the solar system, that squishy social democrats will turn the Earth into a hellhole and that the future is in the hands of Spartan discipline ("Mars" colony) or free enterprise (the "Belters") if only the dead hand of Earth can be thrown off. It is in short a libertarian economics fantasy. Any larded in human feelings do not meaningfully constitute wokeness. Taking Atlas Shrugged as the model for hard SF is really, really stupid. This libertarianism is the real flaw in the series, which is why Bezos liked it I suppose.

Frank Tipler, author of The Physics of Immortality (which is as loony as the title sounds, by the way) is one of those people who discovered that you can construct closed timelike curves in General Relativity, if you only use an infinite cylinder. [I discover that Hawking thought he had a proof that any finite time machine must use negative energy somewhere.] Given the scorn so many feel for time machines/General Relativity, it is not clear why Tipler and accomplice Barrow should even be paid attention to. Tipler and Barrow's version of the anthropic principle is held by no other physicist, not even in the part of the community that accepts the anthropic principle as a genuinely scientific concept. Tipler's version ends up in Teilhard de Chardin's Omega Point as I understand it. Martin Gardner suggested topping Tipler and Barrow's Final Anthropic Principle with the Completely Ridiculous Anthropic Principle, a sound proposal I think. The likelihood of abiogenesis, judging from the sample of planets with conditions suitable for our form of life, is 100%. But that's judging from a sample of one. The truth is that we do not have enough evidence to assign usefully precise probabilities to the likelihood/unlikelihood to the origin of life from non-living materials. The certainty that it is rare is at this point a species of vanity, the evidence-free certainty that "we" are miraculous occurrences.

Not ridiculous at all, but also not useful, is the notion that "intelligence" can't be measured on a one-dimensional scale. It's not useful because it's not clear that intelligence is an inherent, objective thing like height or weight. What intelligence is needs to be settled on first before one can decide whether it is measurable on any scale, multidimensional or otherwise. Volume and density are multidimensional too, after all, but it's not clear that measuring intelligence with different units is helpful. The origin of intelligence testing, in assessing the likelihood of individuals succeeding in their age-appropriate schooling, is not really transferrable to other contexts, as if IQ (intelligence quotient, as dividing standard proficiency for age into individual proficiency on the test) is really an objective attribute of individuals. But the abuse of IQ by metaphysicians and theologians in disguise has gone on since they were developed.

Military uses of space are not valid economic uses. They are about projecting national power, which is the same motive as propaganda stunts. There are no known resources on the Moon valuable enough to justify settlement. Knowledge in the long run increases the productive forces, but short term development of space for material return is not commercially viable. That is to say, not profitable to capitalists. Lunar resources may becoming feasible to reduce costs of further exploration and development. In effect, the Moon can be a cheaper source of supply than Earth, in potential at least. But aside from the creation of a space flight capability that can divert asteroid/comet impacts, there is no known reason to develop space resourced. The idiotic libertarian schemes of asteroid mines assumes that people in space can be trusted to hurl giant rocks at the Earth. This is called bombardment by mass drivers. Some of your harder SF shows, like The Expanse (or even Babylon 5---the standard for hard in TV SF is shockingly low!) take a dim view of this kind of thing. It takes morons like Joss Whedon ("Science makes me cry!") to approve.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jun 9 2021 17:00 utc | 140

@Petri Krohn 132

In the summer of 1950, four nuclear physicists were walking to lunch from the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. Their names were Emil Konopinski, Herbert York, Edward Teller, and Enrico Fermi.

One of them was not human.

Yawn. Standard, open-the-article-with-a-bang, to get their attention. How could you spot the alien? It was the guy who spewed molecular acid when enraged.

Posted by: thompson | Jun 9 2021 18:42 utc | 141

@ Petri Krohn | Jun 9 2021 15:39 utc | 132:

Of course, anyone familiar with the guy's thoughts could argue that Edward Teller was certainly the least human of the four. Reading Johnstone's story only confirms that impression.

Posted by: corvo | Jun 9 2021 18:47 utc | 142

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jun 9 2021 15:39 utc | 132

Caitlin Johnstone's piece is the latest in her series in response to the scaremongering Great UFO Hoax of 2021. The best observation may be from April 17th:

The Aliens Are Not Coming

Respect for sovereignty would be paramount in an advanced civilization.
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A very possible answer to the Fermi paradox is that we haven’t met the aliens because a civilization far more advanced than our own would have matured emotionally and spiritually beyond the need to sail around the galaxy molesting the natives like a bunch of fifteenth century Europeans. They, unlike us, would not be craning their necks scanning around the universe for more stuff to take.

In a previous post from June 6:

Media Converges On The Narrative That UFOs May Be Russian/Chinese Threat

Unknown US officials have done a print media tour speaking to the press on condition of anonymity (of course), with first The New York Times reporting their statements about the contents of the UFO report and then CNN and The Washington Post. Each of these outlets reported the same thing: the US government doesn't know what these things are but is very concerned they constitute evidence that Russia and/or China have somehow managed to technologically leapfrog US military development by light years. All three mention these two nations explicitly.

In today's news we have this story:

UFOs Repeatedly 'Took Offline' US Nuclear Capabilities, Ex-Chief of Pentagon Secret Unit Says - Sputnik, June 9, 2021

Unidentified flying objects (UFO) have repeatedly meddled with US nuclear technology, forcing some facilities to go offline, ex-head of Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, Luis Elizondo, told The Washington Post.

The revelation comes ahead of the release of an unclassified report on unidentified aerial phenomenons (UAPs) observed by US Navy pilots, which is expected to be submitted to Congress later in June.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jun 9 2021 19:16 utc | 143

you have to build a socialist society thru communist revolution before any of these fairy tales will even matter.

my true colors. unless atoms and more efficient carbon energy is by its nature for peace.

are atoms for peace?

what do the laws of thermo...what was it? dynamics? there's 2 of them now? well shit. thermo...thermo...energy use and thermo...nothing adds up does it? since nothing adds up, there can never be a need to subtract, can there? making more of it more efficiently equals less, doesn't it?

i will never be smart enough to get that. bio accumulation is the reality. less energy is the answer. period. b/c the competition is not with nature, but w/the social organization of the world.

which, in case you haven't been watching, capitalism has already lost. there is no competition. that game is over.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 9 2021 20:01 utc | 144

Petri Krohn | Jun 9 2021 19:16 utc | 143

There is a definite build-up before some "revelation" that the US has it all "under control", but needs more cash to bring Democracy to the saucer regime.
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One thing that might happen to humans, regarding long distance space travel, is making them more adapted to the conditions found on a space vehicle.
ie.
* Smaller, spindly legs and reduced height, Smaller body. Which would reduce uneccessary volume inside a saucer.
* Smaller lungs to reduce oxygen consumption.
* Bigger eyes so that levels of illumination can be reduced and other wavelengths could be seen. (ultra violet end of spectrum).
* Brain case to remain the same, or with frontal lobes removed.
* Test-tube produceable, ie "woke" or less, as sex in free fall might be amusing to watch but probabaly less conclusive for results. Best get rid of a sex drive anyway.
* The face could be simplified, by reducing the protuberance of the nose, to allow better use of masks.
* Slower metabolism. Eat less, and it would probably be liquid anyway. That might cure the problems of "roughage" and indigestion altogether.
* No meed for Vitamin D from sunlight, giving a grey appearance to the skin. (Clothes would be superfluous, move on nothing to see here).
* Alternatively, they could be green to be photoreceptive and get energy from a limited use of light if visiting planets such as Mars are planned.
* Second opposable thumb.
* I am not sure that a marsupial version would not be better.
* Two Holes as input for sound and electronic devices.
* The ability to sleep for long periods, with a reduced rate of metabolism during century long siestas.
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* Clearly obesity is a no-no, and rampant consumption is proscribed.
* Total dedication to the "cause" will be inbuilt.
* Payment by bitcoin with the longest blockchains imaginable, payable on return, or to the owner in case of default.

*****
PS. Thanks for the Caitlin link.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jun 9 2021 20:06 utc | 145

From my Christmas card for 2019;

Pa suddenly cried out “What’s up ?”
« Look » hurled the gnomes, « a flying cup,
of best China, and saucer too.

Whatever can we do ? »

A big round head popped up
With two big eyes on top
« Please don’t run or panic
We left our home for a picnic.
Which was in the System HuHey 50G
It‘s not so bright and too far away to see »

« When we left, we forgot
All sorts and types of ro-bot
The dentist-bot, the yoga-bot,
the hair(dresser)-bot, the clean-bot
The repair-bot, the cook-bot,
- there are really quite a lot.
We could have downloaded them for free
If we hadn’t forgotten the code as well you see.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jun 9 2021 20:33 utc | 146

Stonebird @ 121:

Ah, I see what you mean, the tax is actually a deemed rental income tax and separate from property and land value taxes. Thanks for the correction.

"... As a rule of thumb, it can be said that any income generated from rental properties is subject to income tax. But even if you use the property as your own primary residence or holiday residence you must declare a so called deemed rental income, also known as "Eigenmietwert" in German and "valeur locative" in French, as taxable income in addition to your other income.

The deemed rental income is assessed by the cantonal tax authorities and communicated to the homeowner on a regular basis. It is generally around 70% of what the potential market rental income would be if you rented out the property ..."

Petri Krohn @ 132:

None of the four was human but the one that was least physically human demonstrated the most humanity. Now that's a paradox to ponder!

Posted by: Jen | Jun 10 2021 0:05 utc | 147

Just when you thought the world couldn't become more bizarre, now El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender:

https://stockhead.com.au/cryptocurrency/cryptos-rally-on-el-salvador-adoption-volcano-powered-btc-as-death-cross-bitcoin-etf-decision-loom/?

Posted by: Paul | Jun 10 2021 3:34 utc | 148

Setting aside the fact that privatizing public space programs was always a bad idea, Bezos and Blue Origin are actually right in protesting the sole-source award of the Moon/Mars lander to Musk. His lander is a thin, 30-meter-tall tottering rocket with no abort system that’s supposed to land ass-first on uncertain terrain. The Blue Origin lander was designed by the same companies behind the Apollo landers and is the same concept. As the protest points out, NASA’s award decision was pockmarked with illogicalities. It was crooked.

Posted by: Line Islands | Jun 11 2021 5:28 utc | 149

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