Seattle Will Have A Hot Sunday
Washington State is having a hot weekend. I have been there twice but only during fall and winter. I find it hard to image the landscape there with such tropical temperatures.
This picture shows the projected deviation from historic temperatures (1981-2010) for Sunday afternoon local time:
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Along west Canada and north west U.S. the temperature will be up to 24°F = 13°C hotter than it has historically been.
This next picture shows the projected absolute temperature in Fahrenheit for Sunday afternoon:
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The hottest point I see is 116°F which is equal to 46.6°C. Even with all its water Seattle will still heat up to 109°F which is a bit too cozy 42.7°C.
Both pictures are from Tropical Tidbits.
These and future forecasts can be seen at that site by selecting:
- Forecast Models - Thermodynamics - 2m Temp anomaly - Regions set to North America for the first picture
- Forecast Models - Thermodynamics - 2m Temperature (shaded) - Regions set to North West U.S. for the second picture
The forecast models run every 6 hours. The one above was created today, June 26, at 12:00 UTC. The selected forecast hour is 36 witch is for Monday, June 28, 00:00 UTC equal to Sunday, June 27 5:00pm in Seattle.
The western U.S. is not only getting too hot but also too dry:
Source : U.S. Drought Monitor - bigger
This increases not only the danger of large scale wildfires but also the blackout risk.
Last year California saw the first population decline ever. During the next years many more people are likely to move out of the state. It that trend strengthens it could bring some interesting social-economic changes to the whole of the U.S.
Posted by b on June 26, 2021 at 17:31 UTC | Permalink
my first link works... second link if anyone is interested - take the slash off the end of it, and it will work..
Posted by: james | Jun 26 2021 17:48 utc | 2
hell no man, there is no such thing as Global Warming, it's the lying corporate media, man! been watching the warming up for years now.
We forget, we are in between ice ages and we may be slowly warming up. It was hotter in the Roman times. Whether is it man-made or not,that's irrelevant. Will it be used by the gov against us? You betcha! 7.6 billion people is waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much. They needed 7.6 billions for "consumers" to buy their useless crap but they realized 7.6 billion is too hard to control AND take care of(social security, retirement, medical, clean water, food, etc).
Posted by: Hoyeru | Jun 26 2021 18:41 utc | 3
Yes! It's quite balmy for the Central Oregon Coast, below the 104 and above the 110 on the map where it might get into the low 80s depending on the Marine Layer, which is now a few miles offshore. We were going fishing today, but decided to go tomorrow instead where we expect the air temp to reach perhaps the low 70s as the water temp is still 58, which is average for late June. Inland is another matter altogether as thousands have fled to the coast--almost all motels, campgrounds, and vacation rentals are already taken and the traffic on our two-lane highway 101 is clogged by RVs of all types along with big groups of motorcyclists. And the usual north sea breeze we get in association with such high pressure cells that will blow to 30 knots in the afternoon has abated thanks to the thermal low sitting over the Willamette Valley that's generating the heat. The Weather Service is predicting the breaking of all-time high temps everywhere. Nationally, the high temp yesterday was 117 at Death Valley, and some locations in Eastern or Southern Oregon, and possibly Eastern Washington will pass that mark tomorrow. Fortunately, there's little chance for convection and thus dry T-Storms and their fire causing lightening; but as the Drought Monitor shows, it's very dry in many places that only need a wayward spark from a BBQ or campfire to start a conflagration.
Yes, this is what I expected to slowly occur when I researched moving to this area 20 years ago. Oregon has a small population despite its attractions, but it's being discovered as we get many of those moving from California. Missing this year is the usual influx of Canadian tourists because of Covid, but that will change next year. The state's almost ready to announce its complete reopening, but there're still unsolved issues Covid uncovered that must be resolved--rising population versus a housing stock that's stagnant, particularly apartments to accommodate the increasing demand for labor statewide--many businesses can't operate at 100% because they lack workers--the available jobs mostly being service, not industrial, which is the trend nationally. And a Service Economy doesn't export, although it imports a lot, and its overall contribution to GDP isn't nearly as great as with an Industrial Economy, which is one reason why Outlaw US Empire GDP's been in freefall for the last two+ decades while the federal government lies about the results.
Temps like that are not a big deal in places like Phoenix. In more moderate climes there is a lot of risk for buckled roads, buckled railroads, bridges, roofs. No way to know how bad it will be until it happens. In Portland, near or at the 116 on the map, record temp for June is 102, alltime record is 107. No, Portland is not built to survive that much heat stress and this is uncharted territory.
Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 26 2021 18:44 utc | 5
Slightly misspoke above @ #5. Portland is a good bit west of the 116 on the trop tidbits map. Portland is forecast for 115 both tomorrow and Monday.
Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 26 2021 18:55 utc | 7
Hoyeru @3--
I see the affects of the Climate Crisis daily thanks to where I live. The ocean's ecosystem is rapidly changing such that species can't migrate fast enough to keep up with the change and thus perish--go extinct. Oysters that once thrived in our estuaries now need to be reseeded from sources well offshore thanks to warming water temps and current changes. The "bay" scallop aquaculture industry that was proliferating in Washington has almost completely disappeared do to environmental changes--particularly the more acidic ocean. Then there're the changes in atmospheric circulation due to the lessening of the temperature gradient between poles and equator that drives the jet streams. Both of those outcomes are due to basic physics and were thus easily predictable and continue. Putin was once a skeptic, but he's been 100% convinced for 4-5 years now, and he sees the opportunities and challenges it presents to Russia and talks about them often.
As I've written here before several times over the years, the science is basically no more complicated than High School Physics and are thus easily understood by those who can grasp High School Physics.
I can't believe there's not loads fires on the West coast yet. It is much drier than the past three years, which all had quite a bit of wildfires.
What would be the socio-economic impact of a steady population decline in California?
I imagine the cost of living in California will stay mostly the same while other destination states, such as Texas (Austin is popular to move to now), will see a sudden and steep rise in cost of living to the detriment of locals who were born in those communities.
Posted by: Rutherford82 | Jun 26 2021 19:10 utc | 9
My first inkling that the Climate seems to be changing was in the early 1990's when I recalled that there were hardly ever any frosty mornings any more.
When I was a kid (early '50s) Winter became official each year when the grass was white and crunchy in the morning. I can recall my 3 & 5 year-old sisters having fun by running around barefoot, making patterns in the frost with their footprints.
There are some interesting docos on Global Warming...
1. What's Wrong With Our Weather BBC (2014)
2. Global Weirding BBC (2014) (droughts followed by floods)
3. An episode of abc.net.au/catalyst from July 2016 which includes a snippet called Stormageddon looking at the hows and whys of a ferocious Storm which maintained its rage all the way down East Coast Oz from Queensland to Tasmania.
Increasing average temperatures will lead to more water vapor in the atmosphere and thus, more storms.
Almost related... docos about Lightning.
1. Electric Skies about a US storm-chaser who takes photos of spectacular lightning strikes.
2. Lightning - Nature Strikes Back (BBC) which centres on the fact that Scientists don't know nearly as much about lightning as they'd like to.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 26 2021 19:11 utc | 10
Whew...a whole story on heat anomalies without the phrase global warming climate change. Congrats, b. You didn't take the bait.
We have had 3-day strings of 100 degree F before. In 2009, we had three days in August that were 105, 106, 107 F. It was bone dry and the sky was orange-ish pink all day.
This early in summer it doesn't feel as hot as that year in August. We will make it through just fine. Most of the U.S. is unusually cold, right now.
It is what it is: weather. And the patterns fluctuate. The biggest worry is all the homeless crawling around the city in Portland and Seattle these days. The city will open cooling shelters no doubt. The early mass tomorrow will be packed, no doubt. My family has a minisplit ductless heatpump. They are more and more common in the U.S.. Wonderous HVAC systems, they are. Beautifully efficient. And a blow-up pool in the backyard helps as well.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 26 2021 19:16 utc | 11
i've lived in alberta since 2010 and this is the first year where
- it's been above 80F before july
- the above 80 (possibly 38C/100F on wednesday) streak lasted more than a few days and
- it's hit above ~35C/~93F EVER
we're pretty close to BC and parts of that area are about to break all time national records when they hit 45C/113F the middle of the coming week. quebec and coastal ontario are probably f_cked as well.
it's especially annoying after living in DC and experiencing this nonsense for weeks and months at a time. i recall walking home from a show at 1am on a june night/morning and it was 105F. at night. not something i thought would happen up here but it seems fitting that the area known for oil sands would reap what the petrolium-based world has sown.
Posted by: the pair | Jun 26 2021 19:17 utc | 12
California lost less than one-half of one percent of its population. They will probably see the error of their ways and return from Texas's too hot -- too cold weather. Only in California is it possible to go from an ocean beach to a 7,000 foot pine forest in an hour (or to below sea level if one would druther, in winter especially). Anyhow any population lost in California is more than made up by long weekend visitors from hot & boring Arizona.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 26 2021 19:38 utc | 15
"deviation from historic temperatures (1981-2010)" I watched a newscaster say it will be hotter than "humans" have ever seen. There's a difference between recent history, history, and modern records. Again the media is going for emotionalism through half-truths. There's no reason to believe that Portland hasn't been hotter in the last few hundred years and, in fact, it's highly probable if you do a statistical analysis. As for records, if you add up all the records for each day and each location you'll always be able to find records broken somewhere.
Our climate is changing, it always has and always will. What we're missing is the country preparing for these changes instead of finger pointing as to who's responsible. We should be preparing for the 100-200 year floods, storms, droughts, blizzards, hurricanes, sea rises, and etc. We know our governments won't prepare so that leaves it up to individuals to prepare themselves for these inevitable events.
Posted by: Glenn S Olson | Jun 26 2021 19:42 utc | 17
"Most of the U.S. is unusually cold, right now."
Really? Wow. Just, fucking wow. Don't tell my neighbors who had suffered through a ridiculously hot spring in WI.
Clearly, folks who have taken a stance such as yours will not be convinced of anything, ever, regardless of how damning the evidence is.
Carry on good sir, I forgot for a moment how pointless it is to even point this out to someone who "knows" everything.
Posted by: David F | Jun 26 2021 19:53 utc | 18
@ 17
Weather records for Portland go back to 1858 and are continuous since 1870. Records are now expected to be broken by very large increments. For those determined to bury their heads very deeply nothing will ever register.
Posted by: Oldhippie | Jun 26 2021 20:01 utc | 19
@ 4 karlof1.. i was thinking of you and psychohistorian in oregon... not sure but i think he is on the coast too which will be cooler, but the temps are kind of off the charts for here and where you are as well.... seems to me the migration from california to seattle and portland has been happening for the past 20 years or more as i know it... of course i haven't gone down to both places in about 5 or more years.. i got tired of seattle, but quite like all the funky areas of portland and the overall vibe - portlandia, lol.. enjoy the fishing tomorrow! right about now would be a nice time to be standing in one of the rivers that i fly fish in here on vancouver island!
Posted by: james | Jun 26 2021 20:09 utc | 20
There is no doubt that the climate is becoming warmer. I am not a climate change denier, but I do wonder why it is. Science works by people thinking up a hypothesis and then proving or not whether it is true. If the hypothesis hasn't been thought up, the factor won't enter into discussion.
One thing is clear: we have no way of directly influencing the climate. We can take indirect actions, which might or might not influence the climate, like reducing emissions of CO2. Levels of CO2 in the far past were much higher, and temperatures too, without destroying life on the planet.
The real issue, which we can do something about, is the level of pollution. The quantity of micro-plastics in the oceans, the quality of air, all of which affect our day-to-day lives. We should do something about that.
Posted by: Laguerre | Jun 26 2021 20:10 utc | 21
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 26 2021 18:43 utc | 4 Blabla hot blabla temps etc...
Use centigrade you ameritwat like the the rest of the world !
Heebus Beebus, it dun git annoyin' !
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Jun 26 2021 20:12 utc | 22
For those expressing doubts about the idea of global warming, please remember that, in terms of rising temperature, we are really just getting started. This is really only the beginning of the beginning.
No one really knows, but it's possible, or (some would say, even) probable that temperatures will rise, slowly but steadily, for the next 2 centuries (at least).
Don't fall for two tricks of the corporate media. Well three really.
1: First trick: simply don't mention global warming at all when discussing the weather. According to Media Matters, discussions of climate change amounted to 0.7% of discussion on the topic of the weather.
2: Discussing temperature rises in Centigrade rather than the more frequently used Fahrenheit (i.e. more frequently used in the US). Centigrade increases sound smaller.
3: The arbitrary 'by 2100' threshold. Most predictions are framed as 'by 2100, temperatures will have increased to etc. etc. etc.'. As though heating will stop in 2100! What do you think will happen after 2100?
Temperatures will continue to increase, and, as long as we continue to pump CO2 into the atmosphere, they ain't going to go anywhere but up.
For some reason (no one really knows why) Antarctic Ice is, if anything, increasing (though the effect is not as pronounced as people say). If we don't sort out this problem, at some point, the process will go into reverse, and sea levels will start to rise, very very quickly. Again, no one really knows, but this will probably happen at some point in the next 30 to 40 years. Setting off a number of non-reversible 'tipping points'. Strap in, it's going to be a bumpy ride.
Posted by: Hidari | Jun 26 2021 20:17 utc | 23
I'm in public housing in Seattle which is so badly designed it's dangerously intolerable during even a normal summer. People will likely die because not much can be done and individuals like myself have no realistic options. You won't hear about it. Unnewsworthy class.
Posted by: Dale Dieterle | Jun 26 2021 20:18 utc | 24
Hey nice to see Seattle get a shout out on moon of alabama!
Posted by: jc | Jun 26 2021 20:24 utc | 25
To add a long term perspective I suggest Martin Armstrong's articles and graphs on the subject of how Empires rise and fall due to changes in the sun.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/sunspot-climate-change/
Posted by: Ed in Kanata | Jun 26 2021 20:25 utc | 26
Posted by: Laguerre | Jun 26 2021 20:10 utc | 21Science works by people thinking up a hypothesis and then proving or not whether it is true.
Nice encapsulation of how scientific theory works.
One thing is clear: we have no way of directly influencing the climate. We can take indirect actions, which might or might not influence the climate, like reducing emissions of CO2. Levels of CO2 in the far past were much higher, and temperatures too, without destroying life on the planet.
And then, you poo all over yourself, proving you aint dun unnerstood nuffink !
The only war he is fighting, is that against his last few remaining braincells !
I apologise for the exclamation mark there, but, I could not resist.
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Jun 26 2021 20:28 utc | 27
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Jun 26 2021 20:28 utc | 27
Pity this person couldn't offer an actual argument.
Posted by: Laguerre | Jun 26 2021 20:31 utc | 28
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Jun 26 2021 20:28 utc | 27Pity this person couldn't offer an actual argument.
Posted by: Laguerre | Jun 26 2021 20:31 utc | 28
I didn't actually need one, did I ?
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Jun 26 2021 20:38 utc | 29
Who cares? I don't recall MoA giving any space to the once-in-a-century catastrophic fires that devastated the east coast of Australia in 2019-20 and wiped out ~1 billion (yes, billion) native animals, many of which remain on endangered species lists as a result. What's so damn special about the USA that we have to talk about them all the time? Let California slide into the Pacific so we can talk about something relevant and less fixated on that superannuated retard of a country.
Posted by: Patroklos | Jun 26 2021 20:42 utc | 30
I think it's possible that theories of climate change will alter a lot in the future, once it's understood that there isn't a direct relationship between levels of CO2 and world temperature. Archaeologists have already understood that there's a variability of C14 levels, and they have tables to judge it. It's about time climate scientists did the same.
Posted by: Laguerre | Jun 26 2021 20:51 utc | 31
@18 david
Wow, just fucking wow. Another moron, pearl-clutching do-gooder who wants to pile us all into Nissan Leafs, only charging them every week due to rolling-blackouts.
Fuck you! You are the enemy, sir. If not Covid, then climate. If not climate, then fascists. If not fascists, then racists. You need something at every turn to direct your ire. Dumb Protestant Christianity goes after evil in the same way your brain fixates on imaginary climate change.
Got a newsflash for you, dipshit: this is a den of China-lovers. And paradoxically, China now has more CO2 output than G7 combined.
So let's all gather round the campfire, strum the guitar like the new-age gaia-worshipping dweebs you are, and get MAD at Uncle Sambo for his carbon farts while cheering on General Xi and his industrial output.
THIS PLACE DOES NOT MAKE A LICK OF SENSE!
It is so absurd, it raises my blood-pressure every time I wrestle with a retard such as yourself.
Go take a look at a weather map, dumbass, and tell me that most of the U.S. isn't sitting at average or below for right now.
What's that? You can't find one? Maybe because the google has gotten rid of these search results that would conveniently display waves of average or below temps blowing across the continental U.S.. We want people to fixate on a three-day string of hot weather in a small portion of the U.S. and Canada and showing that the rest of the country is doing just fine...well, that would be inconvenient.
I remember back in 2008 when it was 80 degrees F in Portland in FEBRUARY for a week or two. OMG, we were loving it!
But I suppose you were shitting yourself like a whiny baby.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 26 2021 20:57 utc | 32
When it is cold it is weather.
When it is warm it is climate.
Makes sense.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 26 2021 20:59 utc | 33
Patroklos | Jun 26 2021 20:42 utc | 30
Who cares?
Americans are obsessed with talking about themselves - just read the comments section here.
Every so often B throws them a bone - even so far as to referring to autumn as 'fall'.
Posted by: Bolsover | Jun 26 2021 21:17 utc | 34
@NC 32
China is a bad emitter, but is acting on it as described here.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 26 2021 21:21 utc | 35
b
You really should be ashamed of yourself.
Look at the map you posted.
An equally large area with equally low temps abuts the heat
And all you can talk about is warming?
Is your politics equally skewed?
Is your vision of things medical equally blindsided?
Are your military analytics similarity one sided?
Sigh....
Posted by: les7 | Jun 26 2021 21:37 utc | 36
I have seen many changes in important waterways California but much of it is due to the removal of fresh water from the ecosystem for growing things like lettuce in the desert and water hungry landscaping. I have seen over many decades salt water species moving into inland waterways and water temperatures going up. In my once water happy region we are building a desalinization plant where once was a fresh water intake.
I also watched the fires some of which were set by humans purposefully. You could track some of the fires starting going up a road one after another. I witnessed one of those one day at our work sight we thought it very suspicious. I feel PGE took the blame because they had the deep pockets. They were responsible for some of the fires due to the high winds. that actually makes all of us responsible because we are here.
Drought and climate change are quite normal. It can be a wrecker of civilizations. This paper is just but one example of many in times past.
California is mostly desert and semi desert. A drive up in the hills below the western slope shows areas close to desertification in any summer. What set us apart is the snow collecting sierras. Now we have a huge population and a water infrastructure that has not kept up with the population. Land use planning never considered running out of H2O
Normal cyclical drought is made worse by the population increase and poor land use. I see a dust bowl in the Central Valley and place Like Arizona and Las Vegas running out of water in a few decades. Some areas of California will completely run out of water North and South
What we are probably seeing is the first mega drought in the modern human era. Our little lives and memories are comparatively short in Earth history. Do I even need to point that out?
In California’s Sierra Nevada [mountains], there were two periods between, say, 850 A.D. and 1300 A.D. , each about 100 to 150 years long, when it was so persistently dry that riverbeds that are now perpetually in water were dry enough persistently to be able to actually allow for trees to grow to maturity. And now we see in those riverbeds—and the bottoms of some lakes—the stumps of those trees. Scientists have gone and collected wood from these stumps and done carbon dating on them to place them during these megadroughts.
See:
Western Drought Ranks among the Worst of the Last Millennium
I am not a buyer of the CO2 argument. Who wants to collect the carbon taxes and who is creating the panic?
Posted by: circumspect | Jun 26 2021 21:47 utc | 37
.the weather in nystate is balmy and kind of cool for season.
Posted by: dahoit | Jun 26 2021 21:49 utc | 38
The 30yrs saw a 2 year drought in Alberta but the trees tell a different story.
The record seems to be 10 years historically.
Mid-Island (Vancouver) it hit 39, 38.5 and is currently at 36 all in the shade. The grass is beginning to brown.
I put some water out for the bugs and birds. But most of the bugs are long dead. Hardly anyone noticed.
Posted by: G Horsman | Jun 26 2021 21:55 utc | 39
Actually, we were getting cooler for the last 4,000 years.
Then we humans added massive amounts of CO2 to the atmosphere.
Take a look---
https://andymaypetrophysicist.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/062216_1602_climateandc1.png?w=776
Well, highest CO2 in 4 million years.
Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Jun 26 2021 21:57 utc | 40
karlof1 @ 8:
the science is basically no more complicated than High School Physics and are thus easily understood by those who can grasp High School Physics.
Therein lies the trouble. Did you know the vast majority of American High School students never get more Physics than a superficial 1 month scan-through of a few concepts? Most public schools do not require Physics course specifically, instead lumping everything into "Science" which includes everything under the sun - from Chemistry to geology to the far more popular biology.
Even this birds' eye view gets diluted further ever since the milquetoast Edu departments' still-born brainchild known as "discovery learning" was instituted.
I should know as I taught College level Physics often enough. It's a lucky occurrence when 20% of an incoming class even heard of Newton's Laws (well, Gravity is as far as their vocabulary goes). Now contrast that with about 10% of the class who actually had Physics in High School, and often had enough Algebra too, and you can see the problem.
And here you are, expecting some hypothetical average High School student to comprehend even a sliver of introductory Thermodynamics!
Heck, do your own survey: ask random people in the street or in a travel lounge if they know who Newton was. Make sure to include, say, 50% younger people (younger than, say, 30 to 40) in your sample. Some may recall a singer called Olivia Newton (the older crowd). Warning: be careful!
Posted by: Merlin2 | Jun 26 2021 22:09 utc | 41
ask random people in the street or in a travel lounge if they know who Newton was
Better yet, what Einstein formulated in 1905.
Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Jun 26 2021 22:24 utc | 42
Ontario has had a moderate summer so far, but its’ been very dry too (only rained 4 times in the last 60 days in southern ontario. Too early to tell if summer will be a scorcher this year, the last year was fairly moderate but it stayed warm well into October
Posted by: Kadath | Jun 26 2021 22:30 utc | 43
Ultimately, unless the aliens arrive, or Jesus, or the 100th Monkey of Common Sense, the whole shebang is going to be blamed on over-population. Too many useless eaters fighting for the scraps of finite resources. Etc. etc. (Insert your favorite Great Reset theory here).
Pandemics, Climate Change, Social Injustice, et al are real and threatening, but none more so than the billionaires and their plans to 'save' us.
At this point in time it is hard to know which crises are manufactured and which are merely exploited.
Posted by: gottlieb | Jun 26 2021 22:58 utc | 45
m @16,
Yeah, the UV rays plus the heat generated would zap a lot of virus(es). I liken it to that old startrek episode, where Spock gets jabbed by one of those flying neural creatures, with Bones directing intense uv light upon the green eared goblin, thus ameliorating the bad effects of those toxic squeaking menaces.
Tis a hot afternoon here in Port Angeles ... our bees are in cool-down mode, many of which are fanning like crazy at the hive enrances, with others bearding. The hens ok as long as their yard receives an occasional spraying.
Supposed to hit 95+°F tomorrow and Monday. Fun .. well, not really. We'll probably cool down a bit sooner than Seattle, or not.
Posted by: polecat | Jun 26 2021 23:12 utc | 46
Have been gardening on the Central Oregon Coast for 30 years...on the plus side, Climate Change has given me a much longer growing season, on the negative side, I get my water from a spring, which now dries out every year and my house is at risk of burning down in a forest fire.
Climate Change is simple physics, but as an above poster noted, who actually understands basic physics? Evidently, not many folks even in a brainier forum such as this.
I said 35 years ago, when I first started studying climate change, that humans are far too stupid, and far too prone to bending over for the Fossil Fuel Oligarchs to do anything about it until Florida's real estate market tanks when they finally realize that the Keys to Central Florida are a lost cause...at that point it would be too late to prevent serious damage and possible societal collapse.
Well, looks like those goofy-ass Floridians are finally getting the message, although the real estate tycoons are constantly pumping millions of dollars into their disinformation campaign, delaying action we should have started in 1980.
Posted by: Haasaan | Jun 26 2021 23:13 utc | 47
@ gottlieb | Jun 26 2021 22:58 utc | 45 who wrote
"
At this point in time it is hard to know which crises are manufactured and which are merely exploited.
"
Exactly and thanks for that
Corvallis Oregon reporting in a top of 104F today.....
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 26 2021 23:22 utc | 48
NemesisCalling @11
Yes, this is all about seasonal variation. A High Ridge parked for a 'rest'... end result - Hades come calling, temporarily.. It's mostly the heat compression from downward air pressure coming off the Cascades wot done it!
Weather plus Topograghy .. ain't it somptin.
Stay cool everyone.
Posted by: polecat | Jun 26 2021 23:31 utc | 49
@32
No offense, but your reply is extremely stupid...
"Go take a look at a weather map, dumbass, and tell me that most of the U.S. isn't sitting at average or below for right now."
You obviously don't know the difference between climate and weather and are the one cherry picking data to fit you fantasy. I am from the Midwest, it has had record breaking heat from mid-spring until just a few days ago. Cherry picking a couple days that are cooler is retarded.
Climate Change is measured globally over long periods of time resulting in something called an average.
Posted by: ArthurDent | Jun 26 2021 23:36 utc | 50
When my grandmother moved to Los Angeles, the population was 102,000. When my mother was born it was 120,000. When I was born it was 197,000. Now it is 4,000,000 (LA proper, not counting the sprawl from Santa Barbara to San Diego, which was not there when I was a child).
But people are now rending their garments because people are moving out? And wondering how Los Angeles (or California) could survive with fewer people?
Here's a clue. Less traffic, less sprawl, less smog. That is what it will be like.
Jeez.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Jun 26 2021 23:57 utc | 51
Yeah gave up driving to work -- use a bike. I saw that the C02 trend would be a massive problem in the 80s-- no one listened. We are headed for disaster and there is nothing we can do about it. If were was a serious movement to stop the use of fossil fuels the PTB would simply decapitate its leader ship and use force to maintain the status quo-- they don't have armies for nothing. There is nothing we can do, mammals might survive in the northern and southern latitudes but not south of 45 degrees, but like the PETM then.
Posted by: cj | Jun 27 2021 0:27 utc | 52
@51 wagelabor
Cheaper rent, cheaper real estate, more water and other resources to go around. Higher wages, too.
We have been trained by neoliberal capitalism that constant population growth is a good thing, when it is at this point a very bad thing.
Posted by: Jason | Jun 27 2021 0:28 utc | 53
G Horsman @39 put out water for birds and bugs. “But most of the bugs are long dead.”
Which got me to thinkin’.
According to BC govt’s summary of forest health conditions for 2020, there is an outbreak of western hemlock looper that began in 2019. Maybe these high temps will take care of that?
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 27 2021 0:49 utc | 54
Nemesis -
You are an idiot. I said none of those other things in this post, or in the relatively few posts I have made in the past. It takes a special kind of retard not to see the trends in changing weather patterns. The trends are warmer across the globe.
Anecdotally speaking I have been in the lawn care/snow removal business for a while. Used to be the yard care season ran from mid-April or mid-May to about mid-September or mid-October, now it usually starts in late March or early April and usually ends in November or December.
Google is a scourge on society, but they are not 'hiding' the weather maps that prove your point (there is no data that proves your point). More likely you are too stupid to know how to look up the info you want. Try looking at NOAA for past climate related data.
Just for the record dumbass, 80F in February is NOT normal in that part of the country, even if you found it to be a pleasant experience.
I lived in Seattle for 12 years, coming to it from the Midwest. One of the awesome things about it was the relatively mild weather, not too hot in the summer, not too cold in the winter. So, yeah, triple digit temps in Seattle at any time of year is way beyond abnormal, especially in June.
Posted by: David F | Jun 27 2021 1:20 utc | 55
Combination of a hot summer with cold winter changes the energy balance, while the supplies were severely damaged by the pandemic and resulting collapse of the supply. Tales of woe:
There isn’t enough fresh LNG supply to meet this growing demand. The market had become accustomed to a steady stream of new mega-export projects, but the industry is currently in the midst of a lull period, where the next raft of new supply isn’t expected until the middle of the decade.
In the U.S., the so-called Henry Hub futures prices have more than doubled over the past year to the highest seasonal level since 2014. Inventories are 5.8% below normal for the time of year, the widest deficit since 2019 on a seasonal basis, signaling tighter supplies for next winter.
Winter Outlook
Shipping restraints could also add to winter woes. The odds of congestions at the Panama Canal are “very high,” which will force U.S. LNG cargoes en route to Asia to take longer passages around the Cape of Good Hope or the Suez Canal, limiting availability, according to Oystein Kalleklev, chief executive officer of shipowner Flex LNG in Oslo.
To be sure, there are a few factors that could help the global gas market avoid a crunch this winter.
An early start of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which connects Russia to Germany and has faced delays because of U.S. sanctions, could add much-needed supply to Europe and help the region avoid a crunch. Still, while pre-commissioning work is currently under way, the timing of first flow remains uncertain.
Likewise, a milder winter could reduce gas consumption and help utilities coast along with their lower inventory levels.
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In the climate of sanctions, the West somehow cannot find the cheek to blame Russia for the squeeze on Europe. Russia earns additional premium over the newly increased price of oil -- natural gas in Europe was usually priced at 50% of the energy-equivalent oil, now it reached about 75%. Sanctions in Belarus either already resulted in retaliatory pipeline closure or it is yet to come, and duly included in calculated price bets of the European exchange. Just weeks ago there were ongoing speculation that European regulators will play slowly the approval of NS-2. Now they have to hope that it will completed soon. And the sanctions on Belarus do not look like such a hot idea.
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 27 2021 2:07 utc | 56
@55 David F
Sorry you were goaded into name-calling. It's usually a little more polite round here.
But there's nothing like the unknown to bring out the certainty in people ;)
Posted by: Grieved | Jun 27 2021 2:45 utc | 57
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Every so often B throws them a bone - even so far as to referring to autumn as 'fall'.
Posted by: Bolsover | Jun 26 2021 21:17 utc | 34
Maybe that's just "giving credit where credit's due?"
"Autumn" is just another anodyne word reflecting no meaning until one has learnt it. "Fall" at least begs the question "falling what?"
I think the American 'scholars' who thought English should be spelt phonetically were onto something. But it didn't really catch on - even in America itself. All the major US newspapers appear to be hell-bent on perpetuating Oxford Dictionary English when resolving spelling issues, before rushing into print.
It was quite sleazy of the Sleazy Poms to fill the English language with inconsistencies, and rules which have exceptions, merely to trick people into "outing" themselves as less educated than Upper Class Twits.
No offense intended :-)
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 27 2021 3:44 utc | 58
Time for you to visit the 1930s -- hottest weather in centuries, world wide droughts. Also massive forest fires. Then you can visit the 1910s in Europe and the US. Massive heat waves, 10s of thousands died. Then you can go to the late 1800s, where the forest fires were 5 times larger than any year since.
You also might want to view the last 1000 years or so of California droughts. So many of them, several lasting 100 years. One of those would surely clear out Cali quicker than a Gov. Newsom policy initiative. Or perhaps you might want to research the California rains of around 1860s. Left the Central Valley under 6 feet or more of water--for 6 months. The California Governor was sworn via rowboat to the 2nd floor of the Governor's Mansion--then promptly moved the Capitol to Benicia in the San Francisco Bay Area until the waters receded. Of course, back then, there were mostly just farmers and cows in the Valley. Now? Word is that this long rains leading to flooding in Cali happens regularly every 150-200 years.
It was a nice state while it lasted.
But, if you're scared or worried about the heat on any particular day this week don't worry. We are entering a 30-year Solar Minimum. Cool weather worldwide for the next 3 decades.
Relax. Be happy.
Posted by: restless94110 | Jun 27 2021 3:46 utc | 59
@b: "Which witch is the wicked witch?" I was taught that you can tell the difference by drawing a witch's hat on the letter T in "Witch".
About climate:
The science is settled.
Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Emergency is a real, existential threat to humanity.
We are all going to die unless we become materially poorer.
Climate change (no longer "Global Warming", because they can't sustain the scam) is more religion than science. Look at the treatment of unbelievers on this thread as an example: cries of "Blasphemer!" and ritual execution are the norm. None of the above statements are proven, but are firmly held beliefs, because all religions require faith, not fact. So a few "facts" to follow:
1. We are in the tail - end of an interglacial period inside an ice age. The ice WILL come back at some point in the not too distant future, and everyone WILL die under kilometre thick glaciers covering most of the northern hemisphere. Is warm better than cold? Excess winter deaths would suggest yes.
2. The dire predictions of climate catastrophe have been going on since the 1960s (actually since long before that), and all have failed. All of them.
3. Photosynthesis can't exist without carbon dioxide. The increase of carbon dioxide makes for a greener, more productive world. The optimum level for plants is at around 1,000 ppm as all greenhouse growers know. Some of the increase is due to humans burning oil, but not all of it, and not even most it. It is a natural result that comes after a temperature increase (since the last big melt,10,000 years ago). An increase in CO2 is a good thing for nearly every living thing on this planet, in terms of food availability.
4. Even IF the religious cult doomsday apocalypse predictions are correct, it will be cheaper to deal with the problems as they arise, rather than make the entire western population poorer in anticipation of the rapture or whatever end - times cult disaster predictions we have to plan for this week. If you collectively are made poorer you collectively will have to sell all your assets to survive. Who will have the cash to buy ALL the assets? Go on...guess.
Barack Obama told us all that the seas were rising and we would all die, and then he bough some very expensive beach - front property at about 3 feet above sea level. Was he lying, or is he that stupid? It's so hard to tell.
Posted by: Occasional poster | Jun 27 2021 4:33 utc | 60
France and Spain have battled late frost for the past 3 years in a row and, more generally, for the past 10 years which has lead to significant losses in agriculture and wine production. The Levant area of the Middle East enjoys much greater cloud cover and has received more rainfall than usual in the past 10 years; average temperatures have declined too. Saudi Arabia has seen snow and unusual floods in recent years. Snow has also been seen in Viet Nam this year and in the recent past in neighbouring countries too.
Posted by: guidoamm | Jun 27 2021 4:49 utc | 61
Posted by: ike | Jun 27 2021 5:02 utc | 62
110 F plus in Southern Oregon this weekend.
ITEOTWAWKI, but the damn cannabis loves it!
I’ll be smoking meat, and contributing to the CO2 levels while I play with the kids in the water.
Only one life, folks. Try to enjoy it.
Posted by: Cadence Calls | Jun 27 2021 6:13 utc | 63
Occasional poster
Climate change (no longer "Global Warming" - sorry chief we've moved on from that, it is now 'climate emergency'. please try to keep up.
Life seemed so much simpler when we were going into an ice age.
Hoarsewhisperer - No offense intended :-) & nun taken
Posted by: Bolsover | Jun 27 2021 6:23 utc | 64
We get it. Now that the "pandemic" is failing to scare enough people and a political backlash is brewing, it is back to plan B and scaring people with "climate change" instead. The authoritarian agenda is the same though, the main point is for the public to be scared and therefore obedient.
To put things into a little bit of perspective, here is a temperature graph of the last 15-16 thousand years, which geologically is less than a blink of an eye. As you can see, temperature variations in the industrial age are totally insignificant even in this context (not even mentioning that the purported 'science' behind the modern variations is bogus and politically motivated). If you really are interested in recent climate change, look at the graph and the events of 12900 years ago i.e. the Younger Dryas event when temperatures dropped 15C literally overnight as a comet struck the Laurentide ice sheet over present day Michigan, USA. It wiped out large animals in North America and caused world wide floods. It was the end of an advanced human civilization that we can find the remains of today in the form of megalithic structures in South America, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, India and many other places. That was a real natural disaster of an almost unimaginable scale which threatened human existence, what we have now is nothing of the sort, it us pure political infighting.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 27 2021 6:44 utc | 65
Norwegian 65, while I agree the climate has varied widely over the last 15000 years the graph you posted doesn’t stand up to 5 secs scrutiny of the last 2000 years. The current temperature is not the same now as in the little ice age and the little ice age event was 300 years ago not 1500 years ago.
Climate change is much more complex than the relationship between CO2 and atmospheric temperature and expect more crazy variation as the solar minimum kicks in over the next 30 years, then even more crazy variation after that if CO2 output has not been constrained.
This crazy variation has been predicted for many years but I have no doubt 2000 years down the line we will be in another ice age.
Posted by: Philip Espin | Jun 27 2021 7:46 utc | 66
Fatalities due to cold outpace fatalities due to heat 1 to 7 apparently. Another advantage of presumed global warming ... https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/06/26/bjorn-lomborg-climate-change-coverage-ignores-the-heavy-impact-of-heat-on-cold-deaths/
Posted by: guidoamm | Jun 27 2021 9:34 utc | 67
Philip Espin ... we recently entered and are already at a solar minimum. The correlation between a minimum and lower temperatures is historically very high. We should therefore expect progressively more frequent cold events during the next 30 to 50 years starting as I type.
Posted by: guidoamm | Jun 27 2021 9:44 utc | 68
@Philip Espin | Jun 27 2021 7:46 utc | 66
There is no relationship between CO2 and atmospheric temperature. Also, "atmospheric temperature" is not properly defined. Some people claim it is an average over the globe, i.e. an average over many thermometers. But this is nonsense because temperature is an intensity, and thermometers are not evenly distributed over the globe, and in fact the "thermometer center of gravity" has moved south in recent years. So you can get whatever result your sponsors prefer, and if you don't you just change it like the University of East Anglia in the UK routinely does.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 27 2021 9:55 utc | 69
Yes, it's unusually hot here in southern interior BC.
But I thought we had entered a 'grand solar minimum' cycle not long ago.
Is that true?
Also, I've been wondering about the chemistry of Methane CH3, when it gets up into the top layers of the atmosphere. Does Solar energy act to break it down, and if so into what?
It's by far the most potent 'greenhouse' gas I think, and increasing of it is being released every year from arctic tundra regions, to the best of my knowledge.
Posted by: Canadian | Jun 27 2021 10:00 utc | 70
Sorry, I had not read the above comment, before my question on grand solar min.
Posted by: Canadian | Jun 27 2021 10:02 utc | 71
@guidoamm | Jun 27 2021 9:44 utc | 68
Indeed. The climate on Earth is controlled by the nearest variable star, i.e. what is often called "The Sun". It has an approximate 22 year cycle, where the magnetic polarity is flipped half way to create an approximate 11 year activity cycle. The upcoming cycle is #25 since official sunspot counting began in Zurich. The period from 1650 to 1715 was an exceptional period with almost no sunspots, the so called Maunder Minimum, coinciding with the "little ice age" with exceptionally cold temperatures in Europe. Cycle #25 looks to have very low solar activity, so the probability of low temperatures is high.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 27 2021 10:05 utc | 72
Wow! I have never seen such relentless insults and abuse on Moon - such a departure from rational debate. It is a useful reminder that those people who deny global warming are motivated by emotion not science.
Posted by: Tim Glover | Jun 27 2021 10:36 utc | 74
B posting weather stuff and everyone loses it.
Posted by: lmao | Jun 27 2021 10:10 utc | 73
Yup. And COVID. Used to be Trump. Glad Trump is gone.
Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 27 2021 11:16 utc | 75
Just remember everybody, the weather has been manipulated by "science" for many years now.
The west coast weather reporters have been telling of an "unusually persistent high pressure system parked off the coast", for over TEN YEARS!!!
Every summer it is the same. "Records will be met or broken", and we are then instructed to turn off A/C and sweat for the greater good. Now, we will be having rolling blackouts, because, why not? More chaos.
How this climate change narrative makes our winters colder and windier is another question. Hotter summers, nastier winters, we are bad white people ruining this huge plane[t] with our cars and poor attitudes.
The entirety of the playbook can be found in the UN Agenda 2030/2050 Sustainability Bible
Posted by: Saul Real | Jun 27 2021 13:37 utc | 76
Posted by: Occasional poster | Jun 27 2021 4:33 utc | 60
Some of the increase is due to humans burning oil, but not all of it, and not even most it.
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That is correct.
The vast majority of excess (above natural levels) carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere comes from the soil. More specifically, CO2 released from the soil has always been a major source of atmospheric CO2, but human activity has accelerated the release of soil carbon while at the same time decelerating the stockpiling of carbon back to the soil. The amount of carbon depleted from soils by humans exceeds the the total amount of carbon that exists in the atmosphere.
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It is a natural result that comes after a temperature increase (since the last big melt,10,000 years ago). An increase in CO2 is a good thing for nearly every living thing on this planet, in terms of food availability.
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That is not correct.
The vast majority (>99.98%) of Earth's carbon is locked in sedimentary rock. Only about .01% is actively involved in what is called the biosphere where carbon regularly moves around based on the life cycles of plants, animals microbes and fungi. The astonishing part of those facts is that almost all of the carbon (>99.98%) that is now locked away and not participating in the carbon cycling was at one time part of the living carbon based creatures that once inhabited the Earth. Obviously in the past the world had to be a much different place.
The amount of carbon that has been released into the atmosphere as a result of humans cutting down forests and plowing and other destructive human activity to the world's soil far exceeds the amount of carbon released by burning fossil fuels. And that depletion of the organic matter in the world's soils is a far greater threat to human food security than the much smaller changes to the amount of carbon in the atmosphere.
Posted by: jinn | Jun 27 2021 14:12 utc | 77
I have to laugh when we are told by our bien pensants (h/t b) that we must lower interest rates because our economies need boosting and, in the same breath, we are told that economic activity is causing global warming so we have to tax it and reduce it.
If climate or the environment ever were of genuine interest to theses criminals, they would let interest rates be set by market forces rather than by unelected officials behind closed doors.
Global Warming, Climate Change and the Climate Emergency, are political theatre.
There is no question that either by negligence or design, we can find hundreds of examples of the environment being devastated variously by pollution, mismanagement or over exploitation. By and large however, this is a problem due to lack of enforcement of the law. Laws that exist and that could be applied effectively. But we don't and, when we do, we do so selectively.
There is a direct relationship between monetary policy and socio/economic dynamics. Anyone genuinely interested in doing something about the environment should start by looking at monetary policy.
Everything else is politicking.
Posted by: guidoamm | Jun 27 2021 14:36 utc | 78
Heck! People are running around with their hair on fire trying to ban the use of plastic straws to, purportedly, save sea turtles. In the meantime, when they are not busy slaughtering millions on R2P fantasies, our bien pensants have been liberally dropping depleted uranium ordnance around the world. Not to mention running pointed "research" in virus, germ and toxin manipulation in laboratories usually ensconces in out of the way countries with or without the consent of said countries.
We have bigger fish to fry than worrying about CO2 leading us to be, variously, fried or drowned one day.
As but one example, I grew up on the coast outside of Rome in the village of Fregene. The house I grew up in is still there but, today, the sea is further away from what was our garden than it was when I was a kid.
Posted by: guidoamm | Jun 27 2021 14:50 utc | 79
63;the oregon coast is too cold to swim.i've been there,in 2010.wet suits.
Posted by: dahoit | Jun 27 2021 15:27 utc | 80
jinn @77: "Obviously in the past the world had to be a much different place."
Indeed. For much of the Earth's history there was no free oxygen in the atmosphere at all. After the Photosynthesis Revolution (somewhat prior to the Agricultural and Industrial Revolutions) this all changed and highly toxic free oxygen pollution poisoned the planet and led to mass extinctions. It wasn't until pollution-eating organisms evolved that things got lively again. Just a little example of how organisms can and do change a planet's biosphere, and reassurance that if humans do manage to extinct themselves that it isn't really the disaster that we imagine in the larger scheme of things.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 27 2021 15:31 utc | 81
Often hear about the drought, heat, and fires in the west.
Unfortunately, the same thing is coming for all other parts of the US and world in due time.
Think about how much potential fuel have for fires in your neighborhood.
Posted by: Joe | Jun 27 2021 19:09 utc | 82
Folks who have grown up in the same region most of their life should have no problems "believing" climate change.
Last Summer was thinking "has it really been this hot at night all along?" Looking at long term changes and was shocked to see overnight lows where I live have increased 10° on average from a decade ago, much higher than the increase in daytime highs. This is consistent with trapping of heat from greenhouse gasses and not just an increase in solar activity etc. We are in deep, and given the number of doubters and lack of interest by govts globally to address this I fully expect AGW to dramatically thin the human herd in my lifetime (53 yrs old).
Posted by: Miller | Jun 27 2021 20:55 utc | 83
@ Hoarsewhisperer #58
""Fall" at least begs the question "falling what?"
'Begs the question' does not mean 'raises the question'. It's the one error sure to disclose that the speaker has only scanned the back of every book they profess to have read. Click the link above for more on petitio principii or simply here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question.
On the question of 'autumn' vs. 'Fall' of course local usage needs no justification. It's called what it's called. I also recall that in parts of New England (Vermont?) 'autumn' is used just as older English spellings (e.g., 'centre' for 'center') persist. On the other hand Americans tend to make a virtue of ignorance and pioneered infantile deformations of the English language from the beginning. 'Fall' also has a Protestant Old Testament ring to it as though original sin recurred in nature each year as reminder of divine vengeance. But I suspect it isn't so prosaic: it's more likely that some hillbilly said "Ortum sounds 'tupid, coz it don't mean nuthin. Leaves fall, so let's just call it what it does... Fall". And that, children, is how the USA became the great nation it is today.
Posted by: Patroklos | Jun 27 2021 21:29 utc | 84
Corvallis Oregon reporting in a high of 110 F today and that is 6 F degrees higher than where I grew up in Tacoma Washington currently.
Is this just the start of a long hot summer? I expect so and even a world war will be hard to sell with enough of this sort of climate focus...which way ARE the winds blowing?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 27 2021 23:24 utc | 85
@ psychohistorian | Jun 27 2021 23:24 utc | 85 with the premature reporting of today's high temperature in Corvallis OR
Yesterday, the temperature hit the peak at 4 pm PDT and went down from there
Today the temperature has been bouncing between 110 - 114 F for the past two hours between 4 - 6 PM PDT and still hasn't really started dropping....sigh
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 28 2021 1:12 utc | 86
We hit 112 F in Grants Pass, OR today.
To some poster above: not on the coast, not in the ocean
I’m surrounded by rivers and mountains.
Not hard to find some running water around here, but yeah, the ocean is cold
When the Rogue Valley dries up, ain’t no money to be made round here.
Our economy pretty much runs on cannabis.
Posted by: Cadence Calls | Jun 28 2021 4:12 utc | 87
- A LOT OF people are blaming this on "climate change" and "global Warming" and that's patently absurd !!!
- Higher temperatures ? Yes !!
- Less rain and snow ? Yes !!
- "Global Warming" ?? NO !!
- The engine behind these "Climate changes" ?? Cooler Pacific coastal waters !!!
- I'll explain.
The sun sends light & energy to the Earth. That solar energy makes sea/ocean water evaporate. That water vapor rises high up in the air where clouds are formed. These clouds are blown from the (Pacific) ocean to the east over North America. And these clouds drop water (rain + snow) on western parts of North America.
- Compared to the 1980s & the 1990s the Pacific coastal waters are now (much) cooler. That means that with the same amount of solar energy there will be less water evaporation, fewer clouds and therefore less rain + snow.
- The opposite is also true. Higher Pacific coastal water temperatures mean that the amount of rain & snow in western parts of North America would go up. So, the claim that these higher temperatures are the result of "Climate Change" I do take that with more than a pinch of salt.
- Fewer clouds also mean that the difference between day and night temperatures are (much) larger.
- This mechanism is not unique for North America. This is a mechanism that can found around the world. This mechanism is also responsible for the weather event called "El Nino".
- The pacific coastal water being cooler is part of the socalled "Pacific Decadal Oscillator" (PDO). The PDO is a cyclical weather "event" that has a cycle of about 70 (!!!) years. The PDO was in a negative phase (= cooler waters) in the 1930s, 1940s (1950s ???) and the PDO was in a positive phase in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s & 1990s. But already in 1999 a new negative phase of the PDO started. Based on the pattern of the PDO in the past the positive phase of the PDO could already be in the first stages of developing. We'll have to wait ans see what will happen in the next years.
- What A LOT OF people are also overlooking is that since say 1930 the population of the entire US + Canada has massively grown, putting more and more pressure on the natural resource called water. If western parts of the US had the same population as in 1930 then the situation with regards to water would have been less severe.
Posted by: Willy2 | Jun 28 2021 8:30 utc | 88
June in Moscow became the hottest in 142 years of meteorological observations (Interfax, June 23, 2021 — in Russian)
This June in Moscow has become the hottest since 1879, on Wednesday the air in the city heated up to 34.8 degrees, the capital’s meteorological office told Interfax.“Today the absolute record of the June heat in Moscow, set on June 21, 1901 (34.7 degrees), was broken. The previous maximum was topped by 0.1 degrees, this is the final data of the meteorological station at VDNKh,” the source said.
He specified that the history of instrumental weather observations in Moscow is 142 years old. “There has never been such a heat in June over this period,” added the meteorological office.
Earlier it was reported that at 14:00 Wednesday in the capital, the temperature record for June 23, set in 1948 (33.6 degrees), was broken.
The “orange” level of weather danger in the metropolitan area announced on Sunday has been extended until Friday at 2:00 pm and has been in effect for the sixth day in a row, according to the website of the Russian Hydrometeorological Center.
“Abnormally hot weather. The average daily temperature is 7–10 degrees above normal,” the weather service said in a warning.
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Posted by: S | Jun 28 2021 13:46 utc | 89
S @ 89
The high temperatures in Moscow were followed by floods.
BTW, Tomtor in the Sakha Republic, which used to be the coldest continually inhabited place on the plant will later today be experiencing temperatures in the region of 86°F/30°C.
Posted by: Ghost Ship | Jun 28 2021 15:12 utc | 90
@S | Jun 28 2021 13:46 utc | 89
This June in Moscow has become the hottest since 1879
In other words, it was just as hot in 1879.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 28 2021 15:17 utc | 91
@Norwegian #91:
In other words, it was just as hot in 1879.
No. Haven’t you read the text?
1879 is when regular measurements of temperature started to be taken in Moscow. The previous June temperature record of 34.7 ºC was set on June 21, 1901. It was beat by 0.1 ºC on June 23, 2021.
Posted by: S | Jun 28 2021 18:10 utc | 92
Someone compared Portland to Alberta. Tiksi, on the shore of Arctic Ocean, just finished a heat wave. Friday, 91 F, Saturday, no data, Sunday, 33 F max, Monday, snow. Snow may provide a relief from mosquitoes coming from the surrounding tundra.
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 29 2021 20:51 utc | 93
Tuesday:
Canada weather: Dozens dead as heatwave shatters records - BBC, June 30, 2021Canada broke its temperature record for a third straight day on Tuesday - 49.6C (121.3F) in Lytton, British Columbia.
Thursday:
'Most homes' in Lytton, B.C., destroyed by catastrophic fire, minister says - CBC News, July 1, 2021More than 1,000 people living in and around Lytton, B.C., northeast of Vancouver, were forced to leave with little notice Wednesday. They raced out of town as smoke and flames virtually decimated the entire community in one of the most destructive fire emergencies in recent memory.
The province said Thursday the loss includes "most homes" and structures in the village, as well as the local ambulance station and RCMP detachment. The local member of parliament said 90 per cent of the village is gone.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jul 3 2021 1:28 utc | 94
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it is unseasonably hot! i'm in mid central east vancouver island which gets the hottest weather on the island generally speaking.. it is going to 99 f today and 100 tomorrow... usually it is around 70f... it is unseasonably hot, but the corn, onions and potatoes, sunflowers and etc seem to like it! here is an air quality index for b.c. - Air Quality Health Index
here is a b.c. wildfire dashboard might take a minute to load...
Posted by: james | Jun 26 2021 17:46 utc | 1