Does the Presidents’ memorial day proclamation with reference to the 1921 “Tulsa Race Massacre.. and with reference to “terrorism from white supremacy” .. raise 14th
amendment constitutional questions? ..

Posted by: snake | Jun 3 2021 15:38 utc | 3

for canucks… i thought this was a pretty good article – long, but good…
The Lies Exposed by the Numbers: Fear, Misdirection, & Institutional Deaths (An Investigative Report)

Posted by: james | Jun 3 2021 15:59 utc | 5

removing last ” / ” opens James @ 5 link.

Posted by: erichwwk | Jun 3 2021 16:09 utc | 7

What is the status of the fence around the Congress in DC?
Is it still there?
How about the National Guard? Did they go home?

Posted by: Enquirer | Jun 3 2021 16:12 utc | 9

Max | Jun 3 2021 16:08 utc | 6,
That is a great quotation at the end. If you don’t mind, it will be highly appreciated if you can provide the source of it. Thanks in advance.

Posted by: LuRenJia | Jun 3 2021 16:22 utc | 11

Dollar to be dropped from National Wealth Fund structure within one month, says minister
This will not “dedollarize” Russia as many headlines in the MSM are claiming. But yes, it is an extra layer of protection for the Ruble against the American Empire financial attacks.
–//–
‘New world order’ being formed before our eyes, Russia’s deputy defense minister tells RT ahead of key Moscow security conference
We’ve been discussing about the rise of multipolarity for some years now (more than a decade). But it is another thing when people of the importance and agency of Colonel General Aleksandr Fomin start to openly talk about it. It feels more real/more feasible.
–//–
‘Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence’: US Scientist Doubts COVID Lab Leak Theory
Like I was saying, the absence of evidence is not evidence. The virus simply didn’t come out of the Wuhan Lab, and American “journalists” should stop feeding the American masses the false hope the USA will ever get into that place. China will never allow itself the humiliation of having a level 4 laboratory being turned upside down by a bunch of American bureaucrats.
–//–
Fauci Says Emails About COVID-19 Origins ‘Taken Out of Context’
Take documents out of context: that’s Western journalism’s entire history.
–//–
U.S. only brings harms by making COVID-19 origin sourcing a thing of CIA
1) the USA is not the authority here. It’s the WHO;
2) this is a scientific, not intelligence, affair. If the CIA has the intelligence that confirms the virus came out of the Wuhan Lab, it should release them now or shut up;
3) Western “journalists” (propagandists) should stop feeding the American masses the false hope the USA will ever have any kind of authority over China. It doesn’t and never will – China is not Iraq or Venezuela, those cheap, vulgar propaganda tactics simply won’t work.
–//–
Germany faced its horrible past. Can we do the same?
Nah. You’re too busy revising the past of the USSR and China.
–//–
The declining U.S. birthrate has implications beyond Social Security
Just out of curiosity, I visited the USA’s censi since 1950. To my astonishment, the USA had just 150 million people in 1950.
It then started to grow at staggering, jaw dropping rates at regular intervals until reaching 330 million in 2020. I don’t think this has any parallel in History, save maybe to during the rise of the Roman Empire during the time of Augustus.
In contrast, the USSR immediately flatlined on population, and, by the 1970s, negative population growth already was a structural problem for the Soviet economy.
The American economy is chronically dependent on mass immigration. Without it, it would barely grow above 1% per year – which is the average for an advance capitalist economy nowadays.

Posted by: vk | Jun 3 2021 16:48 utc | 13

Hyper-cute North Korean lady claims ballsy leaflet scatter took place in Pyongyang.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uBSfVHCIDg

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 3 2021 16:57 utc | 15

Must watch video before it gets censored:
Long discussion with Dr Pierre Kory of the FLCCC … endorsed by Joe Rogan (for better or worse) …
COVID, Ivermectin, and the Crime of the Century: DarkHorse Podcast with Pierre Kory & Bret Weinstein
This may be massively important in terms of getting early treatment / Ivermectin legitimated worldwide … with all that implies.
Indian Bar Association Serves Legal Notice Upon Dr. Soumya Swaminathan, the Chief Scientist, WHO
Indian Bar Association serves legal notice upon Dr. Soumya Swaminathan, the Chief Scientist at the WHO
The Virus and the Parasite

Posted by: Hemiola | Jun 3 2021 18:08 utc | 17

@ erichwwk | Jun 3 2021 16:09 utc | 7.. thanks… not sure how that happened…

Posted by: james | Jun 3 2021 18:28 utc | 19

the goal in the US is to keep people in a state of confused dependency upon “experts.” So we have happy images of Disneyworld coupled with horror stories from Brazil, more or less truthful accounts of new variants and viruses followed by fairy tales about how happy kids are to be back in school, so mum und dud can fulfill their life purpose of stamping dollar signs on crap at Target or shoveling more BSE cow into US bellies. plus the “2 minutes hate” every 10 minutes, but which is in no way racist. who could possibly believe we are still racist? there’s no racism in “Oklahoma,” is there?
we are the indispensable nation who is responsible for the “post war global order”, the most powerful economic and military power in history, which alone can lead the world into tomorrow’s sunshine, but which is also not responsible for anything that is or has happened. ever. which is why we need an ever bigger military budget. so we can resume our global leadership.
ugh.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 3 2021 19:58 utc | 21

@Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 3 2021 19:45 utc | 20
Your sense of proportion surprises me.
The pandemic has shaken the world for months now (can I say ‘shaken’?)
and your issue is with word choices.
Actually, sense of proportion likely is not the answer, you were
going for a genetically modified Red Herring.
Instead of answering at length perhaps I should have noted that None of your sentences began with a capital letter,
and just have been done with it.

Posted by: librul | Jun 3 2021 20:06 utc | 23

librul @ 23,
let me just quote jo @ 22 (sorry, Jo):
“Somehow I feel there is something in this from last April”.
of course the gullibility of someone calling themself a liberal is nothing to sneeze at. more like something to yawn at.
“shoveling”, “a few years”, “playing around”. yeah, no bias in those word choices at all. you are not arousing envy & suspicion in people by the deliberately vague way you talk about our god who art on planet earth, the dollar bill.
“well lookie lookie”, to quote Jar Jar Binks, someone you can understand, “w/no muy moolah” you ain’t getting very far. here or in China. as far as virology labs go.
can you hear my eyes rolling?

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 3 2021 20:34 utc | 25

rjb1.5 et al.:
It is important to understand how effective propaganda works. The first stages never state the predetermined conclusion outright. Rather, the propaganda is designed to act as breadcrumbs leading readers or listeners to the predetermined conclusion. People will more readily believe their own conclusions than the conclusions of others, so the propaganda is geared toward helping people reach their “own” conclusion. Often, the breadcrumbs are two separate concepts that people begin to associate with each other just because they are continually mentioned in propaganda about the same theme.
Right now, the Borg’s media are repeating that “gain of function research” was studied in Wuhan. Why are they emphasizing this particular claim? Answer: because they want readers to say to themselves, “Aha! In Wuhan, they studied this scientific concept that I had never heard before. Wuhan was also the first place that Covid was detected. Putting the pieces together, we can conclude that Covid was engineered with this ‘gain of function’ doohickey in Wuhan!”
In reality, there is no great reason to believe that Covid was artificially created, much less in Wuhan. But the Borg is determined to make this accusation. Therefore, you will constantly hear “gain of function” mentioned in the same breath as Wuhan because it wants you to believe that Covid was artificially produced in that location.

Posted by: Donbass Lives Matter | Jun 3 2021 20:54 utc | 27

To go a little further: propaganda works though the power of implication. Often, propaganda will use a specific phrase or detail in order to imply that the propagandist is knowledgeable and trustworthy.
During the leadup to the invasion of Iraq, the media constantly mentioned that Saddam Hussein was trying to purchase yellowcake uranium. Why “yellowcake” specifically, and not just “uranium”? Because by specifying the type of uranium, the media aimed to imply that the uranium story came from well-informed and trustworthy sources.

Posted by: Donbass Lives Matter | Jun 3 2021 21:01 utc | 29

Lil’ neonazi starts to crack under pressure:
Opposition blogger Protasevich says he respects Lukashenko
Detained blogger admits guilt in organizing actions violating public order
The choice is clear: submit to the might of the Belarusian proletariat or rot in prison.

Posted by: vk | Jun 3 2021 21:12 utc | 31

Librul @ 18
Yes, the fox was busy investigating the henhouse. Any who want to spin that one into wordplay is likely working with the fox. By the way, Daszak is MI6, and is reputed to be the man behind The Constant Gardener. His record is monstrous, his paws everywhere. And we have a commenter who wishes to carry water for him.
Hemiola @17
Am watching the Kory-Weinstein interview. 45 minutes into this very long piece. They are sparkling conversationalists, full of engaging byplay. One they hit early was the promise of this forty year old molecule, ivermectin, promise still largely unexplored. Their take is that ivermectin may not be as earthshaking as the discovery of penicillin, it is definitely on the same shelf.
Which explains to me why ivermectin is so wildly vilified. How many times has our in-house authority on everything called it a deadly poisonous vermifuge? Better to nip anything non-Pharma in the bud.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 3 2021 21:37 utc | 33

Organisers from uk and us organized the spread the rona during the world military games in late october 2019. It only took two 4 man teams to accomplish a successful infection possibility of 100 people traveling along local transport terminals within the train station. china knows this. the China will not be doing anything further to be friendly with the us, no more favors. China is unsure of next game play however, why start pandemic ensured to infect perpetrator home land and entire world. Does not make sense yes China no want to be blamed but left in darkness as to what the motive was and next steps of plan. Plan so far hurt other nations more than China, China intelligence left confused at now. info has been shared with russia during first perplexing 2nd week after discovery uncovered because of panics the videos made. eastern parties will not be friendly any more no provocation allowed the was been fired by the west and plans made to expect next and complete distrust

Posted by: Johnny | Jun 3 2021 21:59 utc | 35

It is terribly dangerous of Putin to fly through EU airspace.
A rogue western military attack on him could occur.
Western warmongering morons would love to off Putin.
How would Russia respond to a fatal western attack on Putin?

Posted by: AriusArmenian | Jun 3 2021 23:08 utc | 37

@34 jinn
Always nice to read sanity, thank you. It wouldn’t surprise me to see China build more such labs and study more such viral threats, well enough to defeat them.
We need just a little more time for history to appreciate what China has actually accomplished here. It took a clear threat of biowar and enacted a clear response of biodefense. And succeeded. Protected its population.
And the attacks continue, and China will be very busy fending them all off. And I suspect that as China steps even more into this role of defeating the biowarfare attacks against it, we will begin to get a perspective on what she is achieving. Chine at some point will leap a generation ahead of the US in biowarfare technique, and thus defense.
The United States (and Japan) started this biowar. But China will end it.
~~
That’s what I think will happen, and we will look back and see that we had the beginning threads of it now, but not enough of a pattern was yet revealed to show the paradigms being shattered. This will all show more clearly over time, over the next few years.

Posted by: Grieved | Jun 3 2021 23:49 utc | 39

Mr. Maracatu | Jun 3 2021 15:30 utc | 1
Dreadful.

Posted by: Fyi | Jun 4 2021 2:08 utc | 41

‘Very complicated matter’: ABC bans term ‘apartheid’ in coverage of Israel/Palestine conflict:
https://www.rt.com/news/525290-abc-bans-apartheid-israel/
Not so ‘complicated’, one party is the illegal occupier and the other party is occupied by the alien invaders.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/06/03/australians-should-know-apartheid-still-happening-today
The ABC does its credibility no favours by this crude Orwellian ban. The tide, like reality, can not be turned back or ‘banned.’

Posted by: Paul | Jun 4 2021 4:37 utc | 43

Alex Christoforou and Alexander Mercouris
Is this the fall of Dr. Fauci?
https://superu.net/video/994c1ebd-852f-4383-86d5-c492d6261bd3/
Why is it suddenly allowed to mention his name?

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 4 2021 6:39 utc | 45

So the MSM did not report that, uh?
Would tarnish the warriors’ image?
https://breakingdefense.com/2021/06/israeli-defense-minister-to-ask-us-for-1b-for-iron-dome-missiles/

Posted by: Mina | Jun 4 2021 7:45 utc | 47

The Northern Sea route is warming up.
New Eastern Outlook reports on the shipping lanes to bypass Suez.

The volume of cargo shipments along the Northern Sea Route has increased 5.5 times in the last five years. In 2021, it has already amounted to 33 million tons. This was reported by the Presidential Envoy to the Far Eastern Federal District Yuri Trutnev at a meeting on the development of infrastructure of the Northern Sea Route. According to the forecast of the Ministry of Foreign Economic Development, by 2024 the transportation of goods in the NSR should grow to 80 million tons from 20.2 million, and in 2035, they will amount to at least 160 million tons. Russian authorities suggested that the NSR should be considered as an alternative to the route through the Red Sea on the way from Asia to Europe. Movement along the Northern Sea Route will become year-round thanks to the icebreaker fleet currently constructed by Russia. This was announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the Board of Trustees of the Russian Geographical Society on April 14. Earlier, the Russian president called to make the Northern Sea Route “a global, competitive transport artery”.
Unfortunately, one of the current deterrents to the active use of the Northern Sea Route is the lack of a network of ports with rail infrastructure inside Russia. Although today communication is generally established in the north, in case of illness of a participant in the transport passage by NSR, doctors must be dispatched by plane as soon as possible, not to mention any other urgent services. Therefore, the flow of cargo along the Northern Sea Route will increase as the infrastructure develops.
And in this regard, the recent construction of the largest Arctic port in the world in Russia is rather noteworthy. The harbor was named The North Bay and is located on the Taimyr Peninsula, the northernmost continental part of Eurasia. This large-scale project is being implemented by Rosneft. It will be built in three stages, and the cargo turnover of the harbor will increase as the 15 hydrocarbon field towns are built. Commissioning of the first stage is expected in 2024, which will allow the transshipment of up to 30 million tons of oil. Completion of the next two stages will increase the harbor’s cargo turnover to 115 million tons per year. As a result, the North Bay should become one of the largest specialized oil ports in the world.

Looks like the old western maritime gang are in for competition. There are now and will be more poor losers from this new link in OBOR. Expect evil to play a hand.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 4 2021 9:49 utc | 49

Norwegian @ 44
it’s all about ‘variants’
Yeah, that’s my take as well. Enjoy your summer, ’cause come autumn/winter the irony of this mass vaccination pogrom is gonna shake our world. The vaccinated are shedding and seeding variant toxins like there’s no tomorrow, laying more infrastructure for the medical tyranny that’s presently engulfing us.
Soldati
Si sta come
d’autunno
sugli alberi
le foglie
(Giuseppe Ungaretti)
Soldiers
It’s like
autumn
the leaves
on the trees

Posted by: john | Jun 4 2021 10:04 utc | 51

Newsweek has the story too. Someone is trying to take down Fauci and is not concerned with collateral damage. My first guess is the Fauci worship is too strong. There is a power struggle and we can’t see the players. These things do not make the news because some reporter decided to do their job. They make news because someone wants it in the news.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 4 2021 10:25 utc | 53

Peru: elections Sunday. I’m sticking by my prediction that Castillo will win but the power elite is going all out to smear him. At this point it looks like the peons are mobilized and will turn up in massive numbers. It won’t be over after Sunday but it appears that South Americans have reached a tipping point and are turning out on the street big time: Chile, Bolivia, Peru, Colombia, Brazil.
Ollie Vargas from Bolivia just said Brazil’s Lula endorsed Peru’s Pedro Castillo.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Campaigns-Close-in-Peru-Amid-Fraud-Allegations-20210603-0023.html

Posted by: migueljose | Jun 4 2021 10:44 utc | 55

@oldhippie | Jun 4 2021 10:12 utc | 52

Why is there so much censorship? Why do we still know so very little about what has totally dominated the landscape for a year and a half? Because COVID is an intelligence op and a military op.

Most definitely. Nothing, and i mean nothing that comes out of “authorities”, “experts” or anything else should be taken at face value. Instead everything should be assumed to be false until scientifically proven in a way that can be replicated or tested by multiple independent parties. All signs available to me point in the direction of criminal and sinister motives. The claims made are extraordinary, but no extraordinary evidences are provided. You don’t have to be a genius to understand that something is very, very wrong.
The fact that there is so much censorship is proof enough that the censors believe the narrative does not survive in an open debate. That fact alone is enough for me.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 4 2021 11:27 utc | 57

Norwegian @ 57
Just noticed something I’d seen but overlooked. Peter Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance was founded by Gerald Durrell. A spy, a pedophile, an incestuous pedophile, a drunkard. A real proper British lord. Makes me feel all healthy and ecological just thinking about it.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 4 2021 11:42 utc | 59

@Posted by: librul | Jun 4 2021 12:07 utc | 60
I see that Bitchute updated it’s policies on June 1st, 2021.
https://support.bitchute.com/policy-changes/2021-06-01/
The changes are highlighted in communist-totalitarian bloody red.

Posted by: librul | Jun 4 2021 12:14 utc | 61

Speaking of censorship…
Did I goof twice? Or…?
I tried to post a link to Bitchute’s policies as they were vanquished and updated on June 1st.
I will have to assume the link to Bitchute is verboten.

Posted by: librul | Jun 4 2021 12:25 utc | 63

3000 more FOI obtained Fauci Documents link says Crowdsource needs help reviewing the 3000 pages of Fauci emails …. unraveling.. yet sovereign immunity and state immunity is running interference..
Without regards to the outcome of the Covid19 witch hunt, humanity needs a way, independent of, and superior to, the sitting government and government licensed entitites, to arrest, charge, indite, try and punish intentional or negligent expressions of misinformation to the public.
Expression of misinformation to the public is a violation of human rights.
Misinformation leads to actions by the public which are misaligned. When persons serving in trusted public or private positions are producing and distributing news or making statements to be consumed by public audiences, such governments or private and public entities have a duty to humanity, to express only narratives that, can be verified by a stream of elements, which collectively constitute all of the support that leads to the public expression.
A mandatory statement for public statements seems useful.
The authors and the distributors assume full liability for, and warrant they have ascertained for each element used in the stream of elements used to generate the subject expression, that each element is proven to be accurate and truthful or is a long standing undisputed conclusion of science. References to source for each supporting element used in the generation of the public expression are in footnote 1. For each element failing that standard an additional footnote has been appended to explain the status of the element and to justify its inclusion in the stream of elements used to generate the subject expression. A description of, and explanation for, all assumptions used in the generation of the public expression is also included in the footnotes.
commentary..
Humanity has a right not to be lied to, misinformed by, or sequestered by the institutions the public must depend on, or is made to obey? Its the other side of the first amendment right, the public has a right to speak with naivety because it has no duty to know the facts and likely has no means to establish elements to be facts. But the Government, its institutions, contractors, and licensed private entities, have not only a duty to the public to know all, but they also have the means to investigate, discover and confirm the truth.

Posted by: snake | Jun 4 2021 13:04 utc | 65

@librul | Jun 4 2021 12:07 utc | 60
I am not able to access bitchute.com from Norway right now.
ping bitchute.com works.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 4 2021 14:51 utc | 67

@Posted by: librul | Jun 4 2021 12:25 utc | 61

I will have to assume the link to Bitchute is verboten.

I replied to your #60 Jun 4 2021 12:07 utc saying I could not access bitchute using the .com extension, and that post did indeed disappear, so it looks like links to Bitchute ist am strengsten verboten.
It turns out trying to access Bitchute using the Brave browser does not work from here, but when using MS Edge it does indeed work, so I guess it is +1 to Bill Gates.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 4 2021 14:58 utc | 69

@ librul
i believe bitchute is an alternative to youtube – but not censored like youtube..
do a duckduckgo search of ‘alternatives to youtube’ and you will see a description of it..

Posted by: james | Jun 4 2021 16:00 utc | 71

Smith @46: “I feel powerless because I don’t live in America, still, the fact the media just deem these as invisible crimes is pretty disturbing.”
The prevalence of violent attacks and other crimes committed by Black Americans has been suppressed in the US for many years. It isn’t just Black attacks on Asian Americans that is being covered up, but all Black criminality that is whitewashed.
The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting by Race and Ethnicity, Table 43 Tells the plain truth of violent crime in the USA. This table of data causes severe cognitive dissonance among upper middle class liberals in America so it was suppressed while Obama was president. Trump had the full data sets restored but I guarantee that Table 43 will once again be suppressed and disappear from existence now that the delusionals have returned to the White House.
Simply acknowledging the facts contained in the above table is considered horribly and irredeemably racist by America’s baizuo liberal delusionals.
How, one may ask, can the simple act of confronting reality be considered the apex of evil by people who presumably have significant educations at respected institutions? As I regularly point out, western culture has been repudiating the Enlightenment and the rejecting the rationalism that came out of it. Particularly since Karl Marx formalized a modern conception of Materialism the western middle classes have been embracing its opposite, philosophical Idealism; that is to say they believe that physical reality arises from thoughts that people have in their heads. What follows from this is that to change reality one must first change people’s thoughts.
There are ramifications. Note this sentence from the course description of a journalism course at Harvard: “Powerful images can shape public opinion, but with such power comes substantial ethical and intellectual responsibility.”
Within the baizuo liberal middle class perspective in order to create a better world; in order to alter reality, they must first change people’s thoughts. In order to change people’s thoughts they must use the tools of education and mass media. Thoughts that conflict with their idea of the perfect world must be discouraged, banned, silenced, marginalized, cancelled, while thoughts that align with their target version of reality must be encouraged and reinforced through repetition and rewards. To the baizuo, acknowledging the culture of aggression and violence that is rampant in America’s lumpenproletarian Black communities is itself, through unspecified metaphysical agency, what causes that violence. To stop the violence they imagine that the thoughts about that violence must be stopped.
What is most odd here, and astonishingly racist given the western white middle class attestations of opposition to racism, is that it is only in the heads of white working class men that these thoughts matter. Thoughts occurring within the heads of those actually committing the violence are seen by the baizuo as having little influence on the violence. Black Americans committing violence have no control over their own behavior, and instead that behavior is metaphysically controlled by the thoughts of white working class men. In plain terms, the self-professed anti-racist white middle class asserts that Black Americans are subhumans incapable of volition while white people have god-like powers to influence the nature of reality simply with their thoughts.
Yeah, I know. Western philosophical Idealism is freakin’ crazy and self-contradictory when you break it down to its essentials like this.
Above, Paul @43 notes “‘Very complicated matter’: ABC bans term ‘apartheid’ in coverage of Israel/Palestine conflict”
As well, note that the Associated Press forbids its staff from using the term “protest” to refer to the events in the US capital on January 6 of this year: “The Associated Press told staff members that protest was too mild a word. Phrases like “mob,” “riot” and “insurrection” were appropriate, noted John Daniszewski, vice president and editor at large for standards.
Likewise, ““Don’t call them protesters,” CBS’ Gayle King said during coverage the next morning.”
Refer back to the Harvard journalism course description above. The liberal middle class is acutely aware that they are deliberately trying to alter the public’s perception of reality. In so doing they believe they can alter reality itself.
Beyond this effort by the baizuo white middle class to change reality being patently impossible, what qualifies them to be able to define what a better world consists of? First and foremost they cannot even accept the current real world for what it actually is, so how can they possibly define one that is better that fits within the basic natural laws that the universe functions by? These white middle class Americans are almost entirely non-STEM university products with participation trophy degrees noted more for being entertaining than informative and lacking in any real attention to mathematics. Mathematics is just the symbolic language of logic and reason, so if they fail at math then they fail at reason.
The West has given up on logic and reason. This is a symptom of the general decline in the West rather than the cause, though. Fortunately China has taken up the torch for humanity and will advance civilization even as the West descends into a new Dark Ages. A Dark Ages complete with virtue-signaling torturers with generalized anxiety disorder and impostor syndrome and pious fascists saving the poor unfortunate little brown people by napalming them.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 4 2021 16:03 utc | 73

@ William Gruff | Jun 4 2021 16:03 utc | 70… a friend (from china, but living in the usa) told me yesterday china has more video cameras focused on monitoring activity in cities and etc then the usa… is this another part of the new future?? if so – how does this fit in with all the rosy scenarios for the future with china as world leader?

Posted by: james | Jun 4 2021 16:11 utc | 75

james @72
A billion cameras running 24X7 gives you a whole lot of video footage. You can guarantee that almost none of it is being “monitored” by human eyes. Instead that footage is “monitored”, if you choose to call it that, by artificial intelligence. What do you imagine the AI might be programmed to be on the lookout for? Vehicle accidents, of course, and things that look like violent assaults, but the AI might also be instructed to track specific individuals. Out of the billion and a half people in China which ones do you think might have their activity referred to human operators?
Only high profile threats warrant wasting a human operator’s time on. I suppose any US State Department personnel will get that kind of treatment, and maybe some foreign visitors might get flagged for it, particularly if they work for one of the many intelligence agency cover NGOs. If you’re just taking a walk down to the local night market to pick up some pirated DVDs then nobody cares.
As far as individual behavior is concerned, China is a lot more libertarian than most people think.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 4 2021 16:41 utc | 77

@Posted by: librul | Jun 4 2021 16:55 utc | 75
“We found little correlation between the number of public CCTV cameras and crime or safety”
The above quote from the article speaks miles.

Posted by: librul | Jun 4 2021 16:59 utc | 79

to josemiguel. I hope you are right about peru’s elections. “They” (polsters) say that the big cities will go for Fuji, but I noticed a little detail – that Fuji was greeted with flung garbage whilst visiting in Arequipo. This caught my eye because of a notice I saw a couple of days ago – that the TAYTA campaign is continuing to distribute invermectin in Arequipo. Here’s a link for an ivermectin conference which I posted in another thread. The section on peru is the 3rd medico, I believe, in a long and facinating conference. If Castillo can win it will be fantastic, IMHO. https://trialsitenews.com/1st-international-ivermectin-for-covid-summit/

Posted by: Miss Lacy | Jun 4 2021 17:07 utc | 81

@ Posted by: james | Jun 4 2021 16:11 utc | 72
Your logic is absurd, because it hides the obvious fact: mass surveillance already is happening (and increasing) in the West. Therefore, it will happen, regardless of the system chosen.
So, you simply moved the goalposts: instead of defending capitalism against socialism because it is better, you propose to defend capitalism because it is the least worst. The end result of your argument is the same: capitalist surveillance will always be better than socialist surveillance; capitalist x will always be better than socialist x, and so on. This is the classic fearmongering logic.
The reality is much simpler: Americans didn’t stop buying their Microsoft, Google and Apple products just because they found out they’re being spied on. They didn’t do so because it doesn’t matter; what matters is that they’re American corporations, therefore they will continue to buy those products because that means they’ll keep funding (and preserving) American capitalism. Americans have already forgiven their government for obliterating whole countries and creating and operating torture facilities; it is absurd to claim they care about mass surveillance. American only care about their bottom line, and their bottom line is the preservation and expansion of capitalism.

Posted by: vk | Jun 4 2021 17:27 utc | 83

The Global Times article is a crock. It starts with the claim the Cultural Revolution was a backwards development, then the claim that rise of Deng brought great achievements in the early eighties. It carefully omits the murderous invasion of Vietnam in 1979 (in support of the Khmer Rouge, no less!) But these are standard lies that at least have some sort of internal logic. The twin claims that the illusory success of Dengism in saving the world from the illusory retrogression of the Cultural Revolution somehow caused a crisis, lost their way, produced a haze, is nonsense on stilts. It was the failure of Dengism to produce the magic results promised that made the university students who wanted a bourgeois life so frustrated. And that is what made the lure of Western democracy so attractive. Dengism, despite its grandiose twaddle about a Great Leap Forward on IOUs to Western banks, had failed. This derangement is the derangement of Dengism. The suppression of the slow motion journee in 1989 was a partial return to the past, a reaffirmation of the Communist Party. Gorbachev’s dismantling of the planning system in the Soviet Union, a process going into high gear after his final political victory in 1985, was already wrecking the Soviet economy. And national weakness was conclusively demonstrated by the abandonment of the socialist states in central Europe, including the reunification of imperialist Germany.
The only mystery, if there is any, is why “Deng” (other leaders still existed by the way) resisted the sinister action at Tian An Men. After all, a similar resort to violence at Tian An Men during the Qingming festival in 1976 functioned in the same way, to support Deng. But I think the question answers itself: It is precisely because Deng knew from personal experience that such low level insurrections were the road to the overthrow of governments that compelled him to re-affirm the party. (The military coup that overthrew the so-called Gang of Four rested on the supposed popularity of anti-Maoism, as demonstrated supposedly in the adulation of Zhou Enlai, always the mortal enemy of every successor to Mao.)
To repeat, there is no sane way to argue that Dengism was successful *and* that there was a mysterious threat of Westernization coming from nowhere.
It is also completely ignorant to portray it as simply a matter of resptect for Chinese traditions and culture. A mass industrial China is not traditional. Culture is a way of life, not a set of verbal ideals. When we don’t live like our ancestors we don’t live their culture. The past is always with us in the form of the materials we collectively have built our way of life from…but the idea that some sort of soul or essence survives with modern conveniences added on is idealist tripe.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jun 4 2021 17:59 utc | 85

A Canadian father was jailed this month after he disobeyed a court order and refused to call his 14-year-old biological daughter – who identifies as male – his “son”.
The controversial case has drawn worldwide attention, mostly because it includes a father and mother who disagree over the child’s best interests. The couple is separated.
The father, Robert Hoogland, is under a court order not to discuss the case in public. The court also has ordered him to call the child his “son” and to use only the child’s preferred pronouns, “he” and “him.” Hoogland, though, has refused to obey the court. He even set up a fundraising website detailing information about the case in defiance of the court order.
https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/father-jailed-after-calling-transgender-child-his-daughter-and-using-wrong-pronouns.html

Posted by: Mao | Jun 4 2021 18:08 utc | 87

I hear that everyone wants to be like US!
you must realize that mirrors don’t work in the US. what other explanation can there be for the delusion that anyone wants to be like the high-fructose GMO Cinnabons passing for humans here in the US? people like to make other fashion decisions when they wake up in the morning beside how much to let out their sweatpants before they suck down their 1st Big Gulp of Mountain Doo.
and thanks vk @ 88. that news just made my morning. people want to separate what technology might be able to do from the rest of how they live. shoving vaccines in people’s arms is always preferable to any other kind of social disruption, like distancing, masking, putting new ventilation systems in schools, etc.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 4 2021 18:41 utc | 89

rjb1.5 @90
I am not trying to exonerate the American medical industry here, but I don’t know of many doctors that would recommend their patients suck on their car’s exhaust pipe. Recommending that people not inhale toxins on too regular of a basis is also is also fairly reasonable advice.
Creating weapons is not irrational either. Indeed, weapons were almost certainly the very first tools humans created in the process of culture building that elevated humans above the rest of the animal kingdom. The creation of a technology has in and of itself never been a problem. It is how that technology is applied, typically by those who don’t understand it, that is the problem.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 4 2021 20:11 utc | 91

@Paul #48
Yes, the ABC is completely beholden to the Coalition. Four Corners used to be serious about investigation. As for Morrison’s shady connections, it’s clear that he is a complete opportunist rather than an ideologue. He mixes welfare policies with long-term detention of immigrants, new-deal-style infrastructure projects with the destruction of Australian universities. The only constant is his control. He will embrace anything, do anything, be led by polls, nutcases, God, horoscopes: nothing is inconsistent unless it challenges the security of his power. The crew around him are carpet-baggers, fossil fuel lobbyists, alt-right borderline sociopaths, used car dealers and real estate speculators, all underwritten by Murdoch and Fairfax who between them have 90% of Australia’s MSM. Australia, not to put too fine a point on it, is f***ed. By 2050 20% of the population (property-owners) will have indentured the remaining 80% into a quasi-feudal gig economy; and if they decide to keep the borders closed those gigs will be forced onto those who once benefitted from labour protections, unions, entitlements, leave, etc, but who will slowly be forced to choose between homelessness or high rents and precarious servitude. Oh, and Australians are craven in the face of authority so they’ll take all that and blame themselves for not serving well enough. I used to be a proud Australian, but the whole place really depresses me now. Such a failure of vision: it could have been amazing after WW2 but it retreated into suspicious isolation. Gough briefly showed what we could be and look what happened to him. Now all we have is holes in the ground and asset speculation. Dumb Aussies.
Your early point about Gaza reporting is a scandal. But you know Aussies, they couldn’t give a shit about a bunch of towelheads. The ABC is a complete joke.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jun 4 2021 21:33 utc | 93

how did the Predators and Klingons ever advance to space flight? perhaps they had an Elon Musk of their very own, who somehow conned them into space flight, like the Terran Musk cons people out of $billions?

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 4 2021 22:07 utc | 95

rjb1.5 @94–
Humans most certainly didn’t “invent” language. That was done by amino acids many millions of years before hominids emerged. As such, language doesn’t need to be speech/spoken.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 4 2021 22:32 utc | 97

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 4 2021 22:28 utc | 96
That transcript is just the introductory part, then the same for Kurtz and Qahtani who were honor guests. There was a shorter address from Fernández and Bolsonaro also. But after the introduction there was a three band dialog where very interesting matters where touched in a more relaxed and informal setting. Kurtz had a hard time defending the indefensible position of the EU, all for North Stream II as an energy security project directly related to Austria, but insisted in calling Roman a blogger and avoided sharp questions like trading gas in Euros or the relations with Belarus.
The clip that most likely will be aired by all MSM is when Putin is asked, would you land a plane with a person claimed by Russia on board flying from Europe to Asia? Putin pauses shortly and answers: I won`t say.
The vaccination policies of the EU were at the center too, with Kurtz dodging, according to the moderator 90% of all vaccines administered in Europe are from one firm, that is monopoly. Gas was widely discussed since the completion of the first line was announced.
Do a machine translation of the interactive part, the link for the full transcript in Russian:
http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/65746

Posted by: Paco | Jun 4 2021 22:47 utc | 99