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June 30, 2021

Bloomberg: Here Is How We Make The U.S. Look Great

In October 2019 the Global Health Security Index published a report about global preparedness for epidemics and pandemics.

It led to this graphic with was flogged by various news sites and the World Economic Forum. The U.S. and Britain were claimed to be the leaders in pandemic preparedness.


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Then came the pandemic and Britain and the U.S. turned out to be leaders in cumulative deaths per million people.


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One might think that the above discrepancy would have led to some humility and restraint in those who create such rankings.

But no:


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The Bloomberg tweet is somewhat unexplainable. It was evidently much better to be in China, Vietnam or New Zealand during the pandemic than to be in the U.S. - at least if one wanted to be free to travel within the country, stay employed and alive. So what explains that nonsense ranking in the tweet?

Evidently the Bloomberg authors who came up with this have put their fingers on the scale:

Now, the ability to essentially turn back the clock and return to pre-pandemic times is taking on an even greater significance.

Central to that is an economy’s openness to the world, and that’s why we’ve introduced a new element—Reopening Progress—to Bloomberg’s Covid Resilience Ranking. Two new metrics capture the ease of moving in and out of a place and how much air travel has recovered, alongside our 10 other measures tracking mortality rates to infection counts, freedom of movement to economic growth.

This pivot has ushered in dramatic changes to the ranks. The U.S. is now No. 1, ...

"We added two arbitrary criteria with little relevance that now let the U.S. look great. U.S.A. U.S.A. U.S.A."

Their methodology shows that they mix discretionary criteria that change from month to month with others that cover the last eighteen month. The ranking in total death per capita is one of twelve criteria in their ranking but so is the number of currently open flight routes to foreign countries. These criteria are given equal weight!

The ranking in a forecast for GDP growth in 2021 is included but not the 2020 drop in GDP that the pandemic has caused in the first place. A country with a steep drop in its 2020 GDP that is now recovering will thus look better, and will be ranked higher, than one that had no 2020 GDP drop at all.

Long story short: The ranking is utter bullshit.

Posted by b on June 30, 2021 at 13:48 UTC | Permalink

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The rest of the world is not fooled - they can access information online just as well as we do in the US. How embarrassing to have such twaddle broadcast - it is only pertinent for the ten percent of upper uppers in this country, who have barely missed a beat as far as perks and special attention from the supposed government for the people.

But such infantile squawking (my kind way of putting it) simply broadcasts to the world how out of touch we are with reality in this country. I can understand some of that - reality is not pretty these days, and here there is an ongoing obsession with pretty - beautiful went out the window, publicly speaking, some time ago, only to be found by keeping one's head and mind as averted as possible from the ugly behavior of our betters.

The rest of us (and there are still more of us than of them) are simply ashamed. We know better, and they do also.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 30 2021 14:10 utc | 1

Well, Bloomberg is a fascist gatekeeper, and the USA is the Capitol of fascist empire so what can one expect from those whose very job it is to defend and promote fascism?

Frankly, the USA shouldn't be rated #1 in anything, but brainwashing, belligerence and lies.

Posted by: gottlieb | Jun 30 2021 14:15 utc | 2

Better they had focussed on the northwestern heatwave to broadcast to the world that out of control heat related deaths are the present scourge in this not great but suffering continent. It used to be that the 'sea to shining sea' concept identifying America was a glorious attribute. It has become a threat. My thoughts and prayers are with suffering people and not with the crowing of cocks.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 30 2021 14:16 utc | 3

some recent headlines.....
>Threat of delta variant looms large in unvaccinated South
>Why the U.S. Health-Care System Is So Bad
>U.S. pays more for health care with worse population health
>Healthcare Crisis: The Uninsured
>60 Million Americans Rely on Rural Hospitals. Hundreds are At Risk of Closing.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 30 2021 14:16 utc | 4


And it might be ovserved here that the open flight routes likely have a lot to do with the higher success of the virus in those countries that went that "route".

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 30 2021 14:18 utc | 5

Posted by: juliania | Jun 30 2021 14:10 utc | 1

I owe you a smile Juliania, your post is full of passion and good humor, and it made me remember the only sentence that I know in Chinese, I’ve realized that it is too late to try to learn it now but nevertheless I’ve tried at least to learn geographical names and a couple of things that came along.

Danil Bogrov, the fictional Russian bandit that some compare to James Dean said a phrase that has been used even in a presidential election campaign, “Truth is Power”, well according to Mao “Power is in numbers”, the Chinese view that you indirectly quoted by referring to “the rest of us”.

人多力量大

Posted by: Paco | Jun 30 2021 14:28 utc | 6

It seems the best thing to do in a pandemic and be prepared for is doing absolutely nothing.
No that would be wrong.
Crematoriums, burial grounds, grave diggers, carts to carry away the dead ect set up and always on standby. Yep quite a bit to do to be fully prepared for a pandemic and achieve a top rating for preparedness.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 30 2021 14:42 utc | 7

gottlieb | Jun 30 2021 14:15 utc | 2

They are making a good try to get to the top in propaganda too, but there is stiff competition.

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I know a lady who reads the lines on your hands, if they are not too dirty. You must cross her palms with silver as she does not accept bitcoins. Possibly more accurate than Bloomberg, the lines are at least real.

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But this is about par for the course. UK "Headline" Inflation has/had an added "appreciation" (made up factor) based on an estimated "hedonistic" value.
Someone decided to equate beef "burgers" with real steak "as people got the same pleasure out of eating them". This was true (equating two different things in a simalcrum of inflation), and was added to the UK calculations on inflation some time ago. I doubt they have changed their methodology since then.

PS. "Headline" inflation, does not count the things that people need or use if they can be avoided - food, rent -.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jun 30 2021 14:46 utc | 8

Since we're doing this sort of thing, here is another one:

Ratings for China's Xi stuck near lows, while U.S. rebounds-survey

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 30 2021 15:02 utc | 9

RE 8:
"Headline" inflation, does not count the things that people need or use if they can be avoided - food, rent -

I should have said; "Headline" inflation, no longer counts.....

Posted by: Stonebird | Jun 30 2021 15:02 utc | 10

Well, the US is certainly the best country to be in during a pandemic if you're a billionaire, CEO, Wall Streeter, or you toady for them. Bloomberg is just stroking their audience. I wonder if the orchestra on the Titanic managed to stay in tune when that icy water reached their feet.

Posted by: NoOneYouKnow | Jun 30 2021 15:05 utc | 11

I completely agree. This is a manifest absurdity.

On the other hand there are also people who use exclusively GDP PPP in order to judge the economy of Belarus because the highly state subsidized retail prices make Belarus look good in that metric. Or others who use "sovereignty" so that Iran, Venezuela and North Korea (!) rank among the top countries of the world.

Posted by: m | Jun 30 2021 15:25 utc | 12

Thank you, Paco! I wish I knew Chinese - my youngest daughter was educated in China and my oldest grandson is half Chinese, so part of my heart is with them, and with my son-in-law who is family in the very best sense. There is enormous complexity in that great nation, and I am so proud to have those connections to it, little ol' me, from a little ol' island country back in the day. The world was smaller then; but the oceans were vast. I can't take any credit for it -- it's what you get when family goes a-venturing.

You give me a smile as well! ( Old Spain is here, you know.)

Posted by: juliania | Jun 30 2021 15:35 utc | 13

Like throwing acid in my face

This shows how insecure and narcissistic we are. While claiming that 'totalitarian regimes attack democracies out of fear', the exact opposite is true. The same liars to the same thing with the 'democracy index'. In my two links below, II have a quote showing their vaguely worded criteria that somehow excludes the ability of all adult citizens to choose the nature of their government on a regular basis (which should be the ONLY criteria that should be used.)

"The index is based on 60 indicators grouped in five different categories, measuring pluralism, civil liberties and political culture."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#By_country
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Democracy_Index_2020.svg

If you look at these rankings, Venezuela is ranked the same as Saudi Arabia.
Ukraine is ranked twice as high as Venezuela even though they exclude 15% of their residents from voting and who knows what else they have done since 2014.

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jun 30 2021 15:39 utc | 14

. . .from Politico, Jun 30, 2021
U.S. medical stockpile running low as Delta variant threat looms . .The nation is still short hundreds of millions — or more — surgical masks, gloves and gowns. . .At the same time, the Biden administration is struggling to fulfill its commitments to other countries to provide supplies to combat the virus. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 30 2021 15:44 utc | 15

Every country will have 'best places' for its people to live and raise their families in, because that is what ordinary people search out and hold fast, even in countries such as the US, whose outward shell is ignorance and stupidity to those beyond its borders. This braggadacio is not what the country at its heart is. I would say to the leadership, you are breaking our hearts with this foolish display; grow up or grow old! Give over, as you must eventually do, to the young! Turn, and tend your potato gardens like the rest of us. That would finally be a thing worth doing.

And do it organically!!!

Posted by: juliania | Jun 30 2021 15:48 utc | 16

60% of all statistics is made up on the spot

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 30 2021 16:06 utc | 17

Bloomberg lies in synchronicity with the Outlaw US Empire's federal government, particularly when it comes to economic data. With that in mind, here's Shadowstats's latest "Flash Commentary":

"June 20th, 2021
• Fundamentals Could Not Be Stronger for Gold and Silver, nor Weaker for the U.S. Dollar and Stocks, Despite Fed or Market Nonsense to the Contrary • There Is No V-Shaped Recovery • Battered, Non-Recovered May 2021 Payrolls and Unemployment Confirmed a Still-Ravaged Economy on Par With the Great Depression • Severely Negative Annual Revisions to Industrial Production Mean the Economy Was in Recession Well Before the Pandemic Hit • Business-Cycle Conditions Are Collapsing Rapidly, Amidst an Extreme Acceleration in Inflation • 2021 Social Security Cost of Living Adjustment (COLA) Could Spike to a 40-Year High, Based on Potential Third-Quarter 2021 CPI-W • Bureau of Labor Statistics Reveals It Cannot Measure the CPI Properly, At Present • FOMC Has Trouble Forecasting Inflation One Quarter Ahead, Let Alone Two Years Ahead • Despite Talk of “Tightening” in 2022 or 2023, FOMC Is “Easing” Anew in Its Latest Actions."

And here's the current "Daily Update":

" MONEY SUPPLY SURGE ACCELERATED -- May 2021 “Basic M1” Money Supply Growth Jumped to a Record 81.0% Above Its Pre-Pandemic Trough, with May M2, M3 and the Mid-June Monetary Base All at Record Levels of Activity; Money Supply Details Are Posted on the ALTERNATE DATA TAB (Above) and in the MONEY SUPPLY Paragraph (SYSTEMIC RISK) • Fed Chairman Powell Acknowledged Some “Temporary” Near-Term Inflation Issues, as Headline Inflation Surged Amidst Faltering Economic Activity • Both CPI and PPI Annual Inflation Continued to Set New Multi-Decade or Record Highs in May 2021 • Evolving Numbers Confirm an FOMC-Induced “Unrecognized” Recession Hit in August 2018 and Still Was Deepening at the Time of the March 2020 Pandemic Shutdown • Specifically, Annual Benchmarkings Revised 2020 Industrial Production Activity Lower by 4.8% (-4.8%) and Deepened the 2020 Real Trade Deficit by 1.4% (-1.4%), on Top of Earlier, Negative Revisions to Payrolls and Retail Sales • These Foreshadow a Downside GDP Benchmark Revision and Confirm a Slowdown Was in Place, Leading Into the Pandemic Shutdown • May 2021 Employment Numbers Confirm the U.S. Economy Remains Far From Recovery."

So, the Outlaw US Empire never recovered from the Great Recession caused by the Fraudulent Banksters, Obama's decision not to jail them and take over the failed, felonious banks and his resulting policy. Obama's failure was exacerbated by Trump's Trade War and attempt to decouple from China. Now under Biden, Congress struggles to enact what will prove to be a mostly useless economic plan when it comes to any genuine attempt to solve the underlying problem--Neoliberal Parasitism and its Military counterpart which is a much higher % of GDP since real GDP is several $$Trillions lower than stated. IMO, until the federal government returns to providing honest economic data, the ongoing economic crisis cannot be solved because proper policy cannot be based on falsified numbers. And that means turning the clock back to Nixon's Era when government was actually more honest about the state of the economy. The Enron Accounting used to make VooDoo Economics appear vibrant must cease. But until it does, it's falsities must be remembered when making comparison's between the Empire's and other economies. That the Outlaw US Empire must resort to lies reinforces its image as a Paper Tiger.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 30 2021 16:10 utc | 18

@9 Bemildred

I like this part:
"The economies surveyed were Australia, Belgium, Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Taiwan and the United States."

Posted by: Kartoschka | Jun 30 2021 16:22 utc | 19

Missed Putin's Direct Line this morning, I'll take a look at it now.

http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/65973

Posted by: Paco | Jun 30 2021 16:31 utc | 20

wiki - Lies, damned lies, and statistics

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is a phrase describing the persuasive power of numbers, particularly the use of statistics to bolster weak arguments. It is also sometimes colloquially used to doubt statistics used to prove an opponent's point.
The phrase derives from the full sentence, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."; it was popularized in the United States by Mark Twain and others, who mistakenly attributed it to the British prime minister Benjamin Disraeli.[1] The phrase is not found in any of Disraeli's works and the earliest known appearances were years after his death.[1] The phrase was attributed to an anonymous writer in mid-1891 and later that year to Sir Charles Dilke,[1] but several others have been listed as originators of the quote,[1] including frequent erroneous attribution to Twain himself.[2][1] . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 30 2021 16:39 utc | 21

Ridiculous propaganda to save face... Who is fooled?

Posted by: virgile | Jun 30 2021 16:46 utc | 22

I learned a long time ago to stop taking business reporting seriously. You need information that no one else has (or has not gotten yet) to be an effective business person.

This type of propaganda is likely used to convince mainly the staff at Bloomberg and not many others that USA is #1 during a pandemic. I imagine Bloomberg news middle managers bring up talking points from these stories at the water cooler to see if the whole staff is reading and taking notes and then those middle managers make covert staffing decisions accordingly.

Posted by: Rutherford82 | Jun 30 2021 16:55 utc | 23

MONEY SUPPLY SURGE ACCELERATED -- May 2021 “Basic M1” Money Supply Growth Jumped to a Record 81.0% Above Its Pre-Pandemic Trough,
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M1 money supply has increased by more than 400% from pre-pandemic levels.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?g=F691

The reason for that is now all deposits in depository institutions are counted as part of M1. This increased the M1 money supply from $4Tn in Jan 2020 to %19.2Tn today.

The reason given for this new method of counting M1 was that transaction accounts was previously used to determine a deposit institutions reserve requirements. Shortly after the pandemic started the Fed eliminated all reserve requirements for deposit institutions. This means they are no longer required to keep track of which accounts are used for transactions and which are used for savings. Transaction accounts used to be part of the formula for determining Reserve Requirements as well as the major part of M1.


Posted by: jinn | Jun 30 2021 17:07 utc | 24

"The U.S. and Britain were claimed to be the leaders in pandemic preparedness."

"Then came the pandemic and Britain and the U.S. turned out to be leaders in cumulative deaths per million people."

And your point is...?

Posted by: MarkU | Jun 30 2021 17:32 utc | 25

Who the hell would want to live in Canada, Australia, or New Zealand. Those idiots are crazy. UK might be the worst. They killed all their old people and still went all fascist.

Posted by: goldhoarder | Jun 30 2021 17:39 utc | 26

@ goldhoarder | Jun 30 2021 17:39 utc | 26

The placing of infected people in care homes in the UK is a scandal that desperately needs investigation.

Posted by: MarkU | Jun 30 2021 17:58 utc | 27

I am most prepared to next VK post :

- Sanity check : done
- Zen shot : in reserve
- Nostradamus : book through the windows, like all other VK predictions
- Trosky, my life : near hand

Posted by: murgen23 | Jun 30 2021 18:01 utc | 28

Manipulation of the figures is standard in US and UK, less so in Europe. Hardly worth saying. There's a new, fourth, wave ramping from the Delta in UK, 26,000 cases pd at the moment, but the pandemic is going to be declared definitively over on 19th July, because Johnson has committed all to the vaccine as the magic solution. OK, not many hospitalisations or deaths yet, but these are lagging indicators. We'll see.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jun 30 2021 19:02 utc | 29

@9 Bemildred

I like this part:
"The economies surveyed were Australia, Belgium, Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Taiwan and the United States."

Posted by: Kartoschka | Jun 30 2021 16:22 utc | 19

Yeah, it's pitiful really, what they stoop to these days. All so they can say Xi is falling and Biden is rising.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 30 2021 19:20 utc | 30

Posted by: goldhoarder | Jun 30 2021 17:39 utc | 26

Count me among your definition of the 'idiots', goldhoarder. I have lived most of my life in either Australia or New Zealand interspersed with some long stay international travel, it broadens ones outlook. Perhaps you should try it yourself.

I haven't tried Canada yet, I imagine it would be too cold for me and the unrepresentative government fully captured by the lobby. Ditto UK and USA.

Posted by: Paul | Jun 30 2021 19:33 utc | 31

NPR is getting in on the anti-China action:

China deal "catapults" Montenegro into "historic" debt

The money shot:

A copy of the loan contract reviewed by NPR shows that if Montenegro is not able to repay China's state-owned Export-Import Bank on time, the bank then has the right to seize land inside Montenegro, as long as it doesn't belong to the military or is used for diplomatic purposes.

In addition, Montenegro's former government signed off on allowing a Chinese government court to have the final say on the execution of the contract. Deputy Prime Minister Abazovic told Euronews in May that he finds the terms incredulous. "This is not normal," he said "This is out of any kind of logic of national interest."

Of course all would be fine and normal (and mum's the word) were the subject to be a US- or IMF/World Bank-financed infrastructure project.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 30 2021 19:37 utc | 32

Posted by: goldhoarder | Jun 30 2021 17:39 utc | 26

Grouping Canada, Australia and New Zealand in with the UK is painting with a pretty broad brush. But it's true to some extent that the UK, Australia and Canada have embraced (or at least tolerated) the fascist element, particularly with respect to foreign policy in places like Venezuela, Ukraine and regarding China and Russia. Other than the fact that all of those countries are vassal states to the US/UK private finance owned empire, they have very different domestic issues from one another.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 30 2021 19:42 utc | 33

Posted by: Rutherford82 | Jun 30 2021 16:55 utc | 23

This. All of it is true. This is 100% American internal propaganda for consumption of the managerial sector and wannabe business magnates. You pretty much have to possess insider information (which, technically, is illegal) to turn a profit on Wall Street.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 30 2021 19:46 utc | 34

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 30 2021 19:37 utc | 32

has the right to seize land inside Montenegro, as long as it doesn't belong to the military or is used for diplomatic purposes.
USA über alles!
Don't even need a loan or a contract to seize anything from land, oil, money, gold depot, internet site...
That's rule order.

Those Chinese are so "amateurs" with their international laws and bilateral contract

Posted by: الجزائر | June 30, 2021 at 19:55

Posted by: الجزائرa‎ | Jun 30 2021 19:59 utc | 35

The bizarre thing is that this has just come out at Bloomberg:

Young American adults are dying — and not just from Covid-19

What's their point with this? That excess deaths in America weren't COVID-19's fault?

Posted by: vk | Jun 30 2021 20:16 utc | 36

Posted by: vk | Jun 30 2021 20:16 utc | 35

Looks straightforward to me. Guns and drug use are also contributing to young people in the USA dying. The country is positively overrun by guns. Last time I looked, there are almost 2 guns for every person and gun violence is all over the news.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 30 2021 20:22 utc | 37

En el ranking del autoengaño USA sí es el primero, no importa cómo lo midamos. Felicidades al campeón.

Posted by: Frasco | Jun 30 2021 21:00 utc | 38

Goldhoarder s

Posted by: Deltaeus | Jun 30 2021 21:20 utc | 39

Oops! sorry about that - must have hit the wrong key.

Goldhoarder says "Those idiots are crazy" - I'm sure he means the government, not so much the people, so Paul I assume we don't need to be offended.

On the other hand, we Australians (in general, not my learned colleagues here) appear to tolerate growing fascism and remain blithely unworried. And yet Australians are not fascists at heart (when you really talk to them) so why do they tolerate it?

In my opinion, the root cause is the lack of media diversity. More than 70% of print media is owned by Murdoch, and print sets the agenda that TV and radio and web talk about. So we can rant and blame ordinary people, but its probably a more sober way of viewing things by thinking in terms of systems. The Australian system is set up to keep the country subordinate to US: we Australians have no real ability to change government in any meaningful way. The choice is between one party that serves the US and the other party that serves the US. The media serves to maintain the narrative and destroy anyone criticising the system.

it is my fervent hope that there will be an opportunity to return to real democracy with the demise of the US empire.

Posted by: Deltaeus | Jun 30 2021 21:32 utc | 40

@35 vk

I don't think automobile seatbelts were mandatory in 1953.

So basically that report hints to me that the number of preventable deaths in young people during Covid is on par with the preventable deaths caused by not wearing seatbelts. I don't have studies to back this up, but I bet I am close to the mark.

That Bloomberg is framing it as some sort of positive fact instead of an abject failure of modern leadership is likely only going to stick with people born in the 1950's.

Posted by: Rutherford82 | Jun 30 2021 21:49 utc | 41

Posted by: Deltaeus | Jun 30 2021 21:32 utc | 39

I am not offended. There is plenty wrong with how Australia is governed, I could be its most vocal critic. Don't get me started, it would be a long conversation.

I agree the Murdoch media sets a lop sided and biased agenda. The problem with the apathetic public is lack of knowledge and education. Trump is still popular and would easily be elected in many rural areas. NZ has a few Trump fans too.

I have said it before here, events will change people.

Posted by: Paul | Jun 30 2021 22:10 utc | 42

The U.S. is also #1 in ... (drum roll) ...

1. Highest quality, safest, multi-story, ocean front buildings.

2. Most elite rescue teams for disaster relief.
- when there is an earthquake, or a building collapses, it is the U.S. who shows up to sanction (oops) I meant rescue people. And how many people did we rescue after a week of digging?
BTW it makes sense to me that Mexico might have some competency in this area but why Israel? It's not like they have earthquakes or help the Lebanese, Gazans, or Syrians after they destroy their buildinds.

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jun 30 2021 22:27 utc | 43

Really, who cares what some Amerikastani disinformation service says?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jun 30 2021 23:35 utc | 44

Donald Rumsfeld dead as a doornail. YEAH!

Posted by: bjd | Jul 1 2021 0:04 utc | 45

Thank you Paco @ 20; I enjoyed that. It is a fitting counterpoint to the subject of this post. As Putin says early in the program, "People live by these questions." Bravo to him. And here is one of his later comments on a question concerning relationship with the US:

"...It does not depend on us, it depends on them. And I very much hope that the realization that the world is changing and that in this changing world there will be a rethinking of our own priorities and interests, will lead to the fact that the world order will take on a more noble character, and our relations, in including the United States, will be included in the normal framework."

Posted by: juliania | Jul 1 2021 0:10 utc | 46

At least all the commenters in Twitter are laughing their asses out. Nobody's fooled.

This one is particularly great: "This translates to "what are the nicest places for corporate execs to wait out the pandemic in" not "what are the best places for the majority of people to live in during the pandemic".

Posted by: Aule | Jul 1 2021 0:32 utc | 47

Putin's address can be summed up in one short phrase ... Putin taunts the U.S.

I'm arguing this is still on topic because the basic theme is our narcissistic, self-delusion. It is always about the U.S. being so important, the world revolves around U.S. BTW I have seen this headline.

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jul 1 2021 0:41 utc | 48

God Damn the the United States of AmerKKKa. Boycott, divest from and sanction the Apartheid State of Israel and the United States of AmeriKKKa.

Posted by: General Strike | Jul 1 2021 0:51 utc | 49

Regarding earthquake / collapsed building rescue
https://vosocc.unocha.org/USAR_Directory/MemberCountriesOverview.asp - This is a UN directory for member countries that do this.

Poking around a website for a few minutes is not fair but it is fun but would require more time to be fair. The easiest thing to do is scan the list and look at how well each country updates their links for a start. Miami Dade actually has a registered urban rescue team

"Miami Metro Dade - no IEC classification", their link is dead, has not been updated since 2002. Most have 'no IEC classification' so I don't think that reveals much.

On the surface, I'd say Turkey has a very impressive looking depth as does France.
If you follow their links, the info is up to date and they are well staffed.

Turkey (contact)

[each line is a different organizational unit]

AKA Search Rescue Research Association - no IEC classification
AKUT Search and Rescue Association - IEC: Medium USAR Team (2011)
Ankara AFAD 2 USAR Team - IEC: Heavy USAR Team (2017)
Istanbul AFAD 1 USAR Team - IEC: Heavy USAR Team (2012)
Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality Disaster Coordination Center Urban Search and Rescue Team - no IEC classification
KÝMSE YOK MU ASYA SEARCH AND RESCUE - no IEC classification
Neighborhood Disaster Volunteer Emergency Response Team - no IEC classification
NESAR National Emergency Search and Rescue Association - no IEC classification
SAR Team of Search and Rescue Association - no IEC classification
YY – GEA Search and Rescue Team - no IEC classification

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jul 1 2021 1:35 utc | 50

Rutherford82 @ 23
I learned a long time ago to stop taking business reporting seriously.

Myself as well. That has extended to just about all mainline reporting today. These stories are floated to be quoted to make people feel good. Even in the worst of times they can put a sprig of parsley on a plate of shit and people will eat it up.

I have made a small middle class fortune following that dictum. I will never forget Bernanke in front of Congress saying the housing market was in good shape just as it started to collapse from toxic debt. I used a variety of sources to be a seller at the top and a buyer near the bottom a few times in life.

Coming to places like this you learn the unspoken and build on reality using your filter; of course.

Posted by: circumspect | Jul 1 2021 2:31 utc | 51

You nailed an obvious truth: if your GDP totally tanked in 2020 then of course it is going to grow in 2021, for the simple reason that once you hit rock-bottom then the only way is up.

The missing question is, of course, has that 2021 growth in GDP been enough to make up for the 2020 drop in GDP?
If not then, obviously, you are still behind where you would have been if there had been no pandemic, and your economic management is a shambles.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jul 1 2021 3:00 utc | 52

@39 "On the other hand, we Australians (in general, not my learned colleagues here) appear to tolerate growing fascism and remain blithely unworried. And yet Australians are not fascists at heart (when you really talk to them) so why do they tolerate it?"

Because we look at Scottie From Marketing (Prime Minister) and The Randy Beetroot (Deputy Prime Minister) and think to ourselves that those jokers could not organize a root in a whore house, much less successfully orchestrate a fascist takeover of the country.

Scottie is much too busy worrying over his poll figures, and trying to score points of the state Premiers.
Barnaby is much too busy trying to work out where he can next dip his wick, and who in his party is standing behind his back.

Not much to fear from those clowns.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jul 1 2021 3:07 utc | 53

I must say, as a citizen of the USA and former member (reserves) of the USN, with a fair understanding of Italian and German and an instinctive distrust of the bullshit rhetoric of NATO, I'm getting a bit tired of the reflexive anti-American crap on this blog. Yes I am pushing 60 and my country has been brutally pedalling bullshit for 30 plus years, but do any of you think the PRC is going to be a better master? Especially you suicidal Euros importing unassimilable Islamic rapefugees at a pace destined to breed you out of existence in no time.

Posted by: campanelli | Jul 1 2021 3:11 utc | 54

I do like this bit: ...."Two new metrics capture the ease of moving in and out of a place and how much air travel has recovered".

The USA remains a pestilent country. Covid is rife, and still spreading.

So it really doesn't matter how easy it is for a US citizen to hop on a plane and fly out of a country if once they get to their destination they are going to have a very, very difficult encounter with the health authorities in the country they alight in.

In Australia, for example, they will be in for a mandatory 14 day stay in an isolation hotel, plus invasive Covid-19 screening.

None of that will feature in Bloomberg's "new element", but it should.

Because this is inevitable: there will come a time where those restrictions will be eased for travelers coming from countries that have Covid under control (so-called "travel bubbles") but will remain in place for those travelers that come in from a pestilent country.

You know, places like the USA and the UK.

Again, that won't show up in Bloomberg's charts, which consider only on how easy it is to leave the USA and return to it.

But it should, because that's only one half of the equation.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jul 1 2021 3:22 utc | 55

Wake me up when people are crossing North to South across the US southern border at the rate of half a million every six months.

And your Delta variant should read "Antibody Dependent Enhancement"

Posted by: Jezabeel | Jul 1 2021 3:28 utc | 56

@53 "I'm getting a bit tired of the reflexive anti-American crap on this blog."

This never gets old: if the USA does something that is deserving of criticism then it can't really complain when it is criticized.

"but do any of you think the PRC is going to be a better master?"

Don't know. But I do know that China is on track to be my new Lord and Master, and that there is little point going to war with China in a desperate (and in all likelihood, futile) attempt to avoid that fate.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Only the way I look at it, there isn't much point killing - and dying - just so the old boss can hang onto his job for a little while longer.

Maybe that's just me but, hey, I'm over 60 and still think I have a few more good years ahead of me. I'd hate to throw it away just because the people who are behind Joe Biden can't stomach the idea of being Number Two in the global pecking order.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jul 1 2021 3:31 utc | 57

@55 Jezabeel "Wake me up when people are crossing North to South across the US southern border at the rate of half a million every six months."

How wonderfully American of you: here is an article that talks about GLOBAL rankings, and your definition of "global" amounts to the USA and that country that lies to its south.

Heck, you can't even factor Canada into your mindset, that's how narrow it is.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jul 1 2021 3:34 utc | 58

@ campanelli 53
do any of you think the PRC is going to be a better master?
Just imagine what it would be like to live in a country unburdened by petty politicians who are financed by corporations and spend most of their time trying to get re-elected, and fighting among each other, impeaching the president, and little of their time in governance, compared to a country with firm leadership which controls the corporations and is thus able to concentrate upon improving citizens' lives.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 1 2021 3:37 utc | 59

@Paco @juliania
¡Hola! Ni hao! Namaste!
Anyone can learn a foreign language at any age, or many languages, in fact. I'm including babies and old people like me. Have fun with it.
¡Adios! Zai qian! Au revoir. Auf vederzein!

Posted by: HB | Jul 1 2021 3:50 utc | 60

@52 Yep I agree with you.
When I mention "fascism", I was thinking more about the arrest of a youtube producer at (what in my opinion looks very much like) the instigation of the Deputy Premier of New South Wales. Apparently the guy doesn't like being called names (like "greasy little scrotum", quoting the legal document of his suit against the youtuber). friendlyjordies has a history of exposing corruption, and calling people names.
The arrest was carried out by an anti-terrorist squad. Perhaps I'm overreacting to the arrest of a citizen journalist by secret police at the direction of a politician? Perhaps that does not smack of fascism.
more info and a chuckle: https://www.youtube.com/user/friendlyjordies

This is another way to make USA look great. Be worse than USA.

Posted by: Deltaeus | Jul 1 2021 3:56 utc | 61

campanelli | Jul 1 2021 3:11 utc | 53

China vs US? How many countries has china destroyed in the last... how far do we go back?? 50 - 100 - 10000 years?
How many people has US pulled out of poverty in the last 50 years? China?

Regime changes in other countries over the last 50 years, need lots of fingers and toes to count US operations.... come to think of it, it would probably require a number of people to donate their fingers and toes to enable the full count.

merica merica merica. Wrong place for that shit. Perhaps if China rules the world the blacks in America might even be pulled out of poverty. Cops might even have to stop shooting them. That would really piss you lot off. yep I guess you would find it hard going if China ruled. Innocent recreational activities like shooting each other might even be banned. Your government might even be forced to do real commie things like building infrastructure, health care for the sick, ensuring all get a good education, looking after the old...

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 1 2021 4:17 utc | 62

Seeing as this is a 'COVID thread' it might be an appropriate place to inquire about India's Covaxin vaccine. I haven't heard much about its mode of action / efficacy / stage 3 trial results etc, anyone familiar with it? When Russia granted an emergency use permit for Sputnik V for health and emergency workers before the end of stage 3 trials the West had a minor meltdown, while Covaxin has been rolled out to millions in the general population with very little scrutiny.

Here in Aotearoa / New Zealand we are only using Pfizer as the Govt will only accept a 90%+ efficacy (and Sputnik V, Cuba's Abdala, and even Moderna do not seem to exist in 5 eyes countries). Along with the freakout over Bloomberg's downgrading of our status, the local media is reporting a rather sobering Ministry of Health report that states that if the Delta/Indian variant has an R0 of 6 (one case infects an average of 6 others), we will need a 97% vaccination rate with Pfizer to ensure herd immunity (up from around 80% for the other variants).

So yeah, thank you exalted members of the 'international rules-based order' for breeding up such a wonderfully efficient killing machine...

97% seems to be an impossible number to reach. A/NZ could probably get by ok with just travel and tourism from China, Australia, Vietnam etc where cases are under control, but opening up to China before the US, UK and EU is unthinkable for our political class. So we will likely be punished for eliminating COVID with a brutal wave of infections when we open up to the American 'Cootiestan', and our slightly less crazy by 5 eyes standards Govt will be blamed for pursuing the Chinese 'elimination strategy' (eliminate covid) rather than the US 'elimination strategy' (eliminate the elderly, the sick, the poor).

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jul 1 2021 4:56 utc | 63

by: Deltaeus | Jun 30 2021 21:32 utc | 39
The Australian system is set up to keep the country subordinate...: we Australians have no real ability to change government in any meaningful way.

<= its the same in the USA governed America: all politics is subordinated to some unseen phantom.<= The political choice [leads to the same result, but is itself <= a major divide and conquer<= binary: select one: red/blue party candidate]. The media serves to maintain mind control <= narratives, to filter <=informing information about global events, to deny access of the nation state governed <=to state instigated domestic terrorism, to energize both sides of the single choice <=divide to conquer binaries, to implement surveillance <=24/7 rats in a cage, and to maintain anti-criticism and behavior control laws <=by silencing or imprisoning those who object or who fail to comply.

<= You have described a result..<= of the nation state system <= it divides the 8 billion citizens who live in the world <= into one of 256 different nation state cages. The management of these individual cages <= is highly interconnected and coordinated, <= managed by the global nation state Franchisor, <= who approves the appointments of the management of the nation state <=in the political and corporate domains. The global nation state franchisor, oversees leadership compliance and efficiency <= in each individual cell.

Everything is interconnected! Only the globally interconnected <=are in on how the system works. The between nation states opposition is rarely real <= and when real; it is quickly quelled. War, regime change, national wealth, GDI, access to technology are all globally managed <=by the unseen Phantom.. <= when a nation becomes too strong or a leader deviates from global franchisor policy <=the nation is busted up or the leader disposed, the progress of the nation is slowed (sanctions or financial plunder) or the leadership is changed. The better off in the nation state are targeted for wealth and political extinction <=only the system connected people survive by moving to other places.

Posted by: campanelli | Jul 1 2021 3:11 utc | 53
Yes I am pushing 60 and my country has been brutally pedalling bullshit for 30 plus years, but do any of you think the PRC is going to be a better master? Especially you suicidal Euros importing unassimilable Islamic rapefugees at a pace destined to breed you out of existence in no time.

<== I agree .. in every nation state the result is the same, the only difference is timing when comparing any particular position of a nation states within the global system. First it was Spain, the France, then Germany, then Britain, then Russia, in-between Viet Nam, Afghanistan, Palestine, Syria, and so on .. the classification of the well being of the nation state is relative to the time selected for the analysis.


Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 1 2021 3:37 utc | 58
responding to @ campanelli 53
do any of you think the PRC is going to be a better master?
Just imagine what it would be like to live in a country unburdened by petty politicians who are financed by corporations and spend most of their time trying to get re-elected, and fighting among each other, impeaching the president, and little of their time in governance, compared to a country with firm leadership which controls the corporations and is thus able to concentrate upon improving citizens' lives.

<= Your description of the PRC would have fit perfectly the USA governance experienced in America from 1789 until 1948..

Eight billion rats confined to one of 256 different cages.. Until the rats work together to identify and isolate the phantom that controls them all, nothing is going to change.

Good little rats work hard all day, and give what you make to the Phantom.

Posted by: snake | Jul 1 2021 5:41 utc | 64

@50 circumspect

Thanks for the feedback.

My investments always lose, so I don't bother much, but it's nice to hear you were able to make some easy money.

Posted by: Rutherford82 | Jul 1 2021 5:42 utc | 65

@60 "I was thinking more about the arrest of a youtube producer at (what in my opinion looks very much like) the instigation of the Deputy Premier of New South Wales"

You do know that there is a difference between a "police state" and a "fascist state"?

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jul 1 2021 5:43 utc | 66

Posted by: HB | Jul 1 2021 3:50 utc | 59

Learning a language implies a bit more effort than learning how to say hello and goodbye. And german for goodbye is auf wiedersehen, not vederzein.

Posted by: Lemming | Jul 1 2021 5:55 utc | 67

campanelli @ 53:

"but do any of you think the PRC is going to be a better master?"

Who proposed the PRC as a "master"?
I'm afraid that asking that question reveals a slave mentality.

Posted by: Piero Colombo | Jul 1 2021 6:01 utc | 68

Collapsed building? And they did not bring their beloved White Helmets? Or they take too much money??

Posted by: Mina | Jul 1 2021 6:53 utc | 69

Sweden was top-ranked in 2019, but they dasn't put Sweden in the top these days or it'll blow apart the whole lie.

Posted by: Sam | Jul 1 2021 7:01 utc | 70

Posted by: campanelli | Jul 1 2021 3:11 utc | 53

I've heard exactly the same argument, in just the same words, from a US vet who has moved on over here to better pastures. He disagrees with US militarism.

This is from a man who knows fellow expat US citizens who have paid US$10,000 to renounce their citizenship, for tax reason I gather.

I don't buy that argument.

Therefore, outrageous US foreign policy and criminal behaviour are excused as better than the 'new Hitler alternative.

Justice comes before peace.

Posted by: Paul | Jul 1 2021 7:27 utc | 71

Australian barflies should be aware of the imminent anniversary of the 'disappearance' of Juanita Nielsen, 4 July 1975.

NSW has been corrupt since the First Fleet in 1779.

Yes, I notice the NSW government has just announced a new million $ reward. Don't believe it.


See, 'The National Crime Authority and James McCartney Anderson.' Investigation No #1. Amazing reading online.

Posted by: Paul | Jul 1 2021 8:18 utc | 72

The U.S. and Britain were claimed to be the leaders in pandemic preparedness.
Then came the pandemic and Britain and the U.S. turned out to be leaders in cumulative deaths per million people.
One might think that the above discrepancy would have led to some humility and restrain in those who create such rankings.

Come now, b, you seem to have misunderstood. The USA/UK are the best; and on the other hand China is one of the best; but on completely different metrics. Key is motive.

Motive of US/UK was to kill off "nutzlose Fressern", notch up the security state to the penultimate level, cause extreme fear in the proles, terminate all rights and liberties, destroy employment security for the proles, destroy the global economy (profits for the 0.00001%), and destroy competition especially China. Result - resounding success on all measures except China. That proves the US/UK were the best prepared for the pandemic and China the worst.

Motive of China was above all to protect life and health, protect livelihoods and the economy, protect national security, protect future development, protect prosperity and security for China, and to protect humanity. Result - resounding success on all measures. That proves that China was the best prepared for the pandemic and US/UK the worst.

You can't compare apples and oranges.

Posted by: BM | Jul 1 2021 8:28 utc | 73

re: Posted by: Paul | Jul 1 2021 7:27 utc | 70

Those yanks are brainwashed fuckwits who through their overseas experience don't have the justification of ignorance.

As a New Zealander my response to the list is that the main thing is how great how the Cricket World Champion Country (NB Biswapriya Purkayasth!) is listed and Oz isn't. Also I don't mind no 1 shithole country being at the top as the deluded will want to be there. As for that shitty little Middle East Country (whose leader Bibi declared war on mine) .....

Posted by: tucenz | Jul 1 2021 8:48 utc | 74

Posted by: tucenz | Jul 1 2021 8:48 utc | 73

OK, I have been looking forward to a resurgence of NZ cricket, there's some real competition at last. Perhaps they will play it again at Mc Lean Park one day? Just don't mention the underarm. I've heard it before many times.

Sometimes sport is just for some light entertainment and to take our minds of some of the more serious downers in this twisted world.

Posted by: Paul | Jul 1 2021 9:02 utc | 75

the Chinese 'elimination strategy' (eliminate covid) rather than the US 'elimination strategy' (eliminate the elderly, the sick, the poor).
Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jul 1 2021 4:56 utc | 62

Yea, exactly.

There is a comparison of covishield and covaxin here, although I suspect you were looking for more detail than that. Note the comical inconsistency in cited efficacy for covaxin (in one table a fantasy "78-95%", probably cut and paste from manufacturers propaganda making it seem higher than covishield, while numerous other citations on the same page give a provisional 81% from interim phase 3 trial results. Personally I wouldn't be inclined to trust vaccines made in Modi's India, but that's just my bias. Mainly based on geopolitical considerations (don't trust fascists).

Posted by: BM | Jul 1 2021 9:09 utc | 76

Sorry I forgot to fill in the link in #75. It is here.

There is an interesting piece here by a professor of virology (in German) on adaptation of the virus to its environment. He suggested to his son (fully vaccinated, young, healthy, on holiday in Partugal) to deliberately expose himself to the Delta covid variant on the grounds that it would be zero serious risk to him and would further boost his immunity. In general, I would have a similar view: if a covid variant is currently circulating with extremely high transmissability and very low death rates, I would want to advise even/especially elderly people provided they are currently in good health to expose themselves to it - use it as the best possible vaccine, take advantage of it before a dangerous variant comes along. (This notion was particularly applicable early this year when in many places there were huge and escalating numbers of so-called "cases" but especially low death rates and hospitalisation rates. Now with the new allegedly more dangerous variants there is some question mark - although I am inclined to suspect the alleged extra danger is faked, scaremongering by the elites.

The above piece makes another interesting point - due to policies of social distancing, it is an inevitable direct result that the virus will mutate to adapt to this situation by increasing its transmissibility! Increased transmissibility is the result of social distancing rules!

Posted by: BM | Jul 1 2021 9:41 utc | 77

From the Sydney Morning Herald;

"the cuddly elephants are the latest weapon in President Xi Jinping’s propaganda offensive to present a more “lovable” global image of China."

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/beijing-played-a-good-hand-as-covid-supercharged-the-china-us-image-war-20210628-p584v3.html

https://youtu.be/kS8eq5DROuo

Posted by: Debz251 | Jul 1 2021 10:32 utc | 78

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jun 30 2021 22:27 utc | 42

Yeah, IDF digging trough rubble there is suspect as F. They either fear litigation due to some reason (maybe it was jew owned company that screw up somehow - time will tell) or they desperately need good PR.

Posted by: Abe | Jul 1 2021 10:46 utc | 79

BM @75, 76

Thanks for that, it seems that Covaxin is another inactivated virus vaccine like the 1st Chinese vaccine (Sinovac?). It claims a higher efficacy but I also have suspicions about vaccines from fascist countries. In fact, the figures quoted for Western vaccines seem to bear little resemblance to reality recently. Pfizer and Moderna claimed 95%ish effectiveness early on, then we had the 'on average 70% effective' for AstraZeneca (about 60% effective except for the 1 & a 1/2 dose stuff-up in the trial that seemed to give 90% because the dosing mistake only happened to a younger group with higher natural immunity).

Once Sputnik V released its phase 3 data (92% effective) AZ and Johnson & Johnson (67%) were left feeling a little inadequate and now we have the 'global reports' referred to in your link claiming 85-91% for AZ. Results from the Zionist entity suggest the Pfizer & Moderna figures may be somewhat accurate, but there seems to be no real evidence that AZ or J&J have more than the 60%ish effectiveness the stage 3 trials suggested (less against the new variants)

I don't think I will be attending your Dr's 'holiday covid parties' any time soon however. It would have to be proved that natural immunity provides significantly better protection than the 90%+ vaccines for the risk to be worth it for anyone over 30 with the anecdotal evidence of more severe disease in younger people with some variants.

The 'social distancing causes increased transmissibilty' claim also doesn't seem to be supported by evidence. India and Brazil aren't exactly known for their strict distancing regulations, and the UK is pretty lousy too (some onerous restrictions clumsily and inconsistently applied).

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jul 1 2021 10:47 utc | 80

re: Paul | Jul 1 2021 9:02 utc | 74

mmmm...sport...I once read - "Some say football (ie soccer) is a matter of life or death - actually its far more important than that!"

I don't pay much attention to sport and am happy enough to just read results in headlines in newspaper next day (same as what I did with regard to 2016 US elections). But I think I can appreciate the skills, physicality, character etc involved if I have to watch it. eg I was quite impressed when I watched MMA for the first time and saw an Israeli fighting another woman - punching each other in the face, trying to beat the shit out of each other - another jew getting a nose job? what's not to like? as they say. But organised sport is just part of the Matrix and part of rituals going back past Roman spectacles - bread and circuses.

Posted by: tucenz | Jul 1 2021 11:00 utc | 81

I don't think I will be attending your Dr's 'holiday covid parties' any time soon however. It would have to be proved that natural immunity provides significantly better protection than the 90%+ vaccines for the risk to be worth it for anyone over 30 with the anecdotal evidence of more severe disease in younger people with some variants.
Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jul 1 2021 10:47 utc | 80

Note that the good Prof Dr Pietro Vernazza is a 100% pro-vaccine practicioner, and that advice was for his already fully vaccinated son. What followed in my post was just my personal opinion, though not unrelated.

The source site infekt.ch is one of my most highly recommended sources for medical Covid-19 information, it is uniformly of a very high standard indeed.

Posted by: BM | Jul 1 2021 11:05 utc | 82

BM @82

Yes sorry that was a little snarky and not conducive to a comradely discussion. The relative merits of natural vs vaccine acquired immunity is still an open question, and I acknowledge an emotional attachment to the latter as it promises to spare the world yet more suffering.

Thinking more about social distancing measures and the growth of variants, distancing would seem to cause a selection pressure toward more transmissible variants, but should also greatly reduce the incidence of transmission and hence the opportunities for mutations to occur that could create new variants. I don't have the scientific background to assess which tendency would win out, but the new variants seem to emerge from places with less distancing and more instances of transmission not vice versa.

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jul 1 2021 12:10 utc | 83

My preference is more to natural immunity which I consider far superior in the case of covid-19 as - realistically speaking - it is so harmless except in specific cases. I do want to try and get the Sputnik V, but only for convenience reasons. I believe I have probably had covid already anyway.

Thinking more about social distancing measures and the growth of variants, distancing would seem to cause a selection pressure toward more transmissible variants, but should also greatly reduce the incidence of transmission and hence the opportunities for mutations to occur that could create new variants. I don't have the scientific background to assess which tendency would win out, but the new variants seem to emerge from places with less distancing and more instances of transmission not vice versa.
Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jul 1 2021 12:10 utc | 83

Action and reaction. That is nature! You push back, nature pushes back. Viruses change very quickly, and always adapt to their surroundings. If you make things too easy for the virus, the virus - through natural selection - becomes weaker. If you make things more difficult, the virus - through natural selection - becomes stronger - rather like sanctions on Russia! Prof Vernazza says when he studdied the AIDS virus many years ago, he found that when culturing it on cell tissues in vitro (i.e. with no immune system) the virus very quickly went to pot - uncontrolled growth with little ability to protect itself against immune cells.

If you impose distancing it will have an effect on reducing the transmissions for a time, but the virus will quickly respond and outsmart you. I would look at it this way - better to have no social distancing but to protect those most at risk (the extreme elderly and very sick). That way there will be less highly transmissible virus around to challenge those most at risk. With extreme social distancing enforced for everybody (even children, which is a crime against humanity in my view), the virus will be put under more pressure to adapt, will quickly become more transmissive, and therefore those at risk will be far more difficult to protect. It is like using antibiotics indiscriminately - if you use antibiotics for a common cold, for example, such indiscriminate use vastly increases the resistance of bugs to antibiotics and vastly increases the risks of superbugs. Also if you give antibiotics indiscriminately to lactating cows (yes, I am pointing at you, EU), then the milk will contain antibiotics. Total bacterial counts will be substantially reduced, but those bacteria will be antibiotic resistant and therefore much more dangerous, while the beneficial bacteria (eg healthy yoghurt making bacteria) will all be killed off. 25 years ago Poland had absolutely wonderful traditional natural milk. It would only keep 2 and a half days - but would then readily be turned into yoghurt by leaving out in a bowl overnight. That beautiful milk was banned by the EU, claiming "too high bacteria count" (see above) because the EU wanted to takeover Polish agricultural land for factory farming. Same with their fabulous beef in the same period (delicious and so tender like butter, but so embarassingly cheap).

Same story with insecticides - if you use chemical insecticides, insects build up resistance, the species cross-section changes, beneficial insects are harmed, and in the long term agricultural output is reduced compared to fields which use no pesticides over many years. That has been scientifically proven. The more you push nature, the more nature pushes back, and the more nature gets out of balance.

The general principle is to try to be as harmonious as possible with nature, and to use all interventions with moderation. Whatever you take to excess will always come back and hit you hard eventually.

Posted by: BM | Jul 1 2021 13:09 utc | 84

Bret Weinstein podcast where discusses issues related to covid with renowned doctors.
Take on ivermectin and covid procedures in US. Initial covid procedures put in place by desk jockeys rather than letting front line doctors practice. Maybe sedating and using ventilators on patients with serious breathing problems not in their best interest. Blood testing of patients for covid antibodies before subjecting them to vaccine.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/covid-ivermectin-crime-century-darkhorse-podcast-pierre/id1471581521?i=1000523859023
Discussion on mRNA technology.

Weinstein was victim of cancel culture for abstaining from "Day of Absence" at university where taught.
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/meet-the-censored-bret-weinstein

Posted by: Joe | Jul 1 2021 14:29 utc | 85

Bret Weinstein podcast where discusses issues related to covid with renowned doctors.
Take on ivermectin and covid procedures in US. Initial covid procedures put in place by desk jockeys rather than letting front line doctors practice. Maybe sedating and using ventilators on patients with serious breathing problems not in their best interest. Blood testing of patients for covid antibodies before subjecting them to vaccine.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/covid-ivermectin-crime-century-darkhorse-podcast-pierre/id1471581521?i=1000523859023
Discussion on mRNA technology.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-save-the-world-in-three-easy-steps/id1471581521?i=1000525032595

Weinstein was victim of cancel culture for abstaining from "Day of Absence" at university where taught.
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/meet-the-censored-bret-weinstein

Posted by: Joe | Jul 1 2021 14:30 utc | 86

My instinct goes along with yours, BM @ 84, as far as the power of natural immunity. I don't think we have the ability to do accurate testing on this, and certainly with matters so out of whack when it comes to addressing the serious virus invasions, I have grave doubts the scientists have a handle on that.

It very much reminds me of the genetic modification debacle with plants. I'm interested to know results in Mexico, since they learned firsthand what happened with their precious corn and have made strides in preventing their own indigenous strains from disappearing. As you say, it is not different when it comes to our bodies' immune functions. You might call it 'organic medicine'.

We need to pinpoint the harm and then don't do it!

And for those whose immune systems may already be compromised -- the way forward is to treat those systems as the most precious protection we have, far outweighing any manipulative gene therapy! That's my instinct and I think it is sound. So, eat natural foods, drink kefir, eat unrefined yoghurt. Respect your body; it knows what it needs, and it isn't what big ag is promoting - that's for their profit, not yours.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 1 2021 14:36 utc | 87

@ BM | Jul 1 2021 13:09 utc | 84

I agree with you, intervention in natural processes should be minimised, in most cases attempting to fight nature is counterproductive in the long term. The human race seems to specialise in short term fixes which exacerbate the problems in the long run.

To expand upon your pesticide example, the problem is that while pesticides work they also wipe out the predators of those pests by removing their food supply. In general pests have short life-cycles, develop immunity quickly and re-populate explosively, predators are much slower to recover. The net effect of pesticides is to produce dependence on pesticides, which quickly lose effectiveness anyway.

In respect of the 'leaky' Covid-19 'vaccines' there is a considerable danger of selectively breeding the virus to become more dangerous in a manner analogous to the development of antibiotic resistance. There is at least one example of that happening already, the 'leaky' vaccine to Marek disease in chickens has made the disease much more dangerous.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous

Posted by: MarkU | Jul 1 2021 14:38 utc | 88

tucenz @ 74, besides being a fan of natural immunity, I'm of the belief that cricket, especially the long form of the game, is one of the most exciting sports to be a spectator of - in that it allows one to appreciate individual prowess and stamina in some truly community uplifting aspects of the game. There has to be a lovely synchronicity between journalism and success/failure being currently enjoyed by the fans - what was down is up.

Congratulations, Black Caps! And also the Indian team, who in the adversity of covid horrors and climate eruptions still provided nailbiting excitement in the few days nature allowed. (And that it didn't happen at Lords is somehow equally fitting.)

Cricket, like beauty, can save the world!

Posted by: juliania | Jul 1 2021 15:08 utc | 89

campanelli @ 53:

"but do any of you think the PRC is going to be a better master?"
Who proposed the PRC as a "master"?
I'm afraid that asking that question reveals a slave mentality.
Posted by: Piero Colombo | Jul 1 2021 6:01 utc | 68

Yep, not forgetting that Campanelli was a child of the JFK era and grew up in a Lesser Evilism political environment ("The Earth is flat and there be dragons!") and is thus accustomed to choosing between two less-than-desirable candidates.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 1 2021 15:25 utc | 90

Christian J. Chuba @ 48 - we are most definitely on topic because the topic is what would make the US look great. I think that was why Paco provided the link, in effect saying 'Here's something that would.'

Can you imagine Biden instituting such a communication between him and his constituents? If he did, that would be a gamechanger; we would be on the road.

Or, can you imagine nations competing in a truly noble team sport (notice, in the quote I gave Putin uses that word)? I took tucenz's (rather aggressive) comment to have this nugget of truth - cricket as it was being played during this World Championship match had come to a high point of nobility, so the ranking of New Zealand in the 'great countries' chart was appropriate for that reason - and India ought to be in second place. Momentary greatness, to be sure, but very real for the countries involved.

Nobility is hard to sustain. Nevertheless, when it happens it ought to be savored. There is nobility in the leaderships of both Xi and Putin, as we on this forum have pointed out. That ought to be savored.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 1 2021 15:38 utc | 91

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jun 30 2021 22:27 utc | 42

Yeah, IDF digging trough rubble there is suspect as F. They either fear litigation due to some reason (maybe it was jew owned company that screw up somehow - time will tell) or they desperately need good PR.

Posted by: Abe | Jul 1 2021 10:46 utc | 79

Xymphora named the Miami developer in a post a day or so ago...

Respond and Assist - June 28

"Miami rabbi: At least 50 Jewish missing in Surfside collapse" (Keene). It's a Holocaust! Oh, wait, it's just a 'Canadian' (((philanthopist))) saving shekels on concrete, nothing to see here: "Miami condo collapse draws attention to Canadian developer" (Doolittle/Radwanski) (original article paywalled). Note that this poor (((victim)))/(((refugee))) was a (((survivor))) of anti-Semitic persecution in Canada from the Nazis at the Law Society over some minor financial discrepancies.

"The Miami Rescue Effort is as Shameful as the Collapse Itself" (Anglin). Luckily, the (((cavalry))) has arrived, fresh from mass child murder, to save the day.

Added: "Developers of doomed Fla. tower were once accused of paying off officials: report" (Fitz-Gibbon).

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 1 2021 15:39 utc | 92

Posted by: BM | Jul 1 2021 13:09 utc | 84

A correction and a reminiscence. 20+ years ago, milk would turn to "something else" in Poland pretty quickly, but it was not yoghurt. In a store you could buy milk, kefir and yoghurt, and by filling cups or a bowl with milk, you would get gelled semi-liquid with a layer of butter on top, zsiadle mleko. Mleko means milk, the first word was used only in that context, but it is a compound of two words, so it could be translated as "settled" -- from a liquid state.

The distinctions are important, because each of the three, yoghurt, kefir, zsiadle mleko, had a different taste. Unlike in USA, where you have a choice of tasteless and sweetened.

Reminiscence. In 70-ties I have spend a week bicycling in Polish Lakeland during summer vacation, together with a student from Russia. The day was warm, sunny and we were quite parched. On a pasture, we noticed people who arrived in a passenger car and were milking cows, presumably to minimize the interruption in their grazing. That gave us an idea and we stop at a farm house, and we asked if we can get some milk. The elderly farmer was apologetic "we have no milk, the pig is sick and we had to give It milk". We were sad, as sad as a tired parched person can be. "Ah, there is a drop left in the basement". Soon we have seen a big bowl with the most delicious and cool fermented milk I ever drank.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jul 1 2021 15:39 utc | 93

Congratulations, Black Caps! And also the Indian team, who in the adversity of covid horrors and climate eruptions still provided nailbiting excitement in the few days nature allowed. (And that it didn't happen at Lords is somehow equally fitting.)

Cricket, like beauty, can save the world!

Posted by: juliania | Jul 1 2021 15:08 utc | 89

Indians have good results in other games too, although they skipped Army Games 2020, they had good results in 2018:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo0kbxc92a4

Bad news for the fans of "Girls und Panzer": women are not allowed in Tank Biathlon (requires lifting bullets more than 40 lb each, official justification), but they are present at Special Forces event etc.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jul 1 2021 16:15 utc | 94

You might call it 'organic medicine'.
We need to pinpoint the harm and then don't do it!
And for those whose immune systems may already be compromised -- the way forward is to treat those systems as the most precious protection we have, far outweighing any manipulative gene therapy! That's my instinct and I think it is sound. So, eat natural foods, drink kefir, eat unrefined yoghurt. Respect your body; it knows what it needs, and it isn't what big ag is promoting - that's for their profit, not yours.
Posted by: juliania | Jul 1 2021 14:36 utc | 87

Agreed. And by the way, if you donate all responsibility for your healing to your doctor (which is what he demands and expects), that intrinsically diminishes the power of your immune system. In simple terms, it switches the immune system off. That is why it has been proven that cancer patients who ask more questions and take an active part in decision making over their treatment have a statistically better chance of recovery.

What the Covid-19 saga has vividly demonstrated above all else is that Western so-called "science-based" medicine is DEAD. It is as dead as a doornail. It is morally bankrupt, scientifically bankrupt, economically bankrupt, intellectually bankrupt, and medically bankrupt. It has demonstrated itself to be defunkt and unfit for purpose at every level. We urgently need a complete new philosophy of medicine which is not based on the foundation of Rockefeller's petrolium corporation, which is not based on extractive exploitation, which is not based on the principle of putting profit above medical needs, and which is not based on a methodology that is dependent on corruption at every level. The so-called "science" of medicine is better described as the art of corruption.

The old medicine cannot be redeemed, it has gone too far beyond that stage - that is why I said it is dead. It cannot be repaired, it cannot be revived, it cannot be resuscitated - we need to start a new medicine from scratch.

Posted by: BM | Jul 1 2021 16:57 utc | 95

A correction and a reminiscence. 20+ years ago, milk would turn to "something else" in Poland pretty quickly, but it was not yoghurt. In a store you could buy milk, kefir and yoghurt, and by filling cups or a bowl with milk, you would get gelled semi-liquid with a layer of butter on top, zsiadle mleko. Mleko means milk, the first word was used only in that context, but it is a compound of two words, so it could be translated as "settled" -- from a liquid state.

The distinctions are important, because each of the three, yoghurt, kefir, zsiadle mleko, had a different taste. Unlike in USA, where you have a choice of tasteless and sweetened.
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jul 1 2021 15:39 utc | 93

I don't dispute the Polish terminology, I am not qualified to do so. I do dispute the English terminology. The product I described is technically called yoghurt in English - or at least it was up to 25 years ago, but languages do change over times and I can't comment on that. In English, yoghurt just means fermented milk, and the classic was of making it when I was small was simply taking milk that was slightly spoilt ("gone sour"), pouring into an open bowl, and leaving it overnight (even while I was still growing up that was already starting to get difficult or impossible to do). Some other countries have umpteen different kinds of fermented milk products, but when I was young milk products consisted of milk, cream, butter, buttermilk, cheese, yoghurt, curds, whey - nothing else existed. In Sweden there were at least 6 different variations on milk/fermented milk, with each available at full-cream, half-cream, 1% cream ... in all permutations. I cannot comment on the meaning of zsiadle mleko, it may be that it does translate word for word as /settled/ /milk/, but what I described is not "settled milk" for which the nearest equivalent would be curdled milk or curds (made by adding a little acid) which is not fermented. Supermarket oghurt has artificial thickeners added; real yoghurt is delicate and turns to a thickish liquid if stirred.

If you take milk from a supermarket in any modern western country you cannot make yoghurt in the manner I described because it is alread dead. It is a toxic and unnatural product, dangerous to the health, product of animal mis-husbandry and abuse.

Posted by: BM | Jul 1 2021 17:31 utc | 96

@95 BM - "...it cannot be resuscitated - we need to start a new medicine from scratch"

Which perhaps means it starts from the ground up. With leadership perhaps from those doctors who still remain true to the principles of medicine, and followership - or even more collegial relationships - from those of us on the ground who have been forced to study a little just to know where scientific and medical principles are being followed, and where they are not.

Just as we have been forced to become our own historians, our own politicians, our own economists, our own strategists and tacticians, our own educators - now we are forced to become our own doctors. And there will be plenty of mistakes made along the way, but just as 2020 revealed everything that you articulate so clearly, it showed countless ordinary people that they have to pay attention and listen to their own judgments and instincts of what is right and wrong, correct and incorrect, true and false.

It's not just the virus that's under tension to adapt, it's humans too.

And may the most deserving win.

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 2 2021 0:59 utc | 97

Which perhaps means it starts from the ground up.

Yes, exactly.

now we are forced to become our own doctors.
Posted by: Grieved | Jul 2 2021 0:59 utc | 97

The only doctor who can truly cure is the doctor within. The doctor without can only show the way, no more. So we have to train ourselves to be able to listen to the doctor within and facilitate. That is one aspect. But at the same time there must be a new paradigm - which must start as you say from the ground up. In the meantime, learning to listen to and facilitate the doctor within can help get us by before the new paradigm is available. It will certainly take decades, but there must be a start.

Posted by: BM | Jul 2 2021 9:10 utc | 98

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