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May 30, 2021

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2021-041

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

Other issues:

Biden administration:

> For Washington’s China-is-a-threat crowd, the appointment of Lloyd Austin looms as a counterpoint to their foreign-policy agenda: one of larger defense budgets, less reliance on diplomacy, and a greater willingness to use force—all reasons why Biden appointed Austin in the first place. <

Gaza - I didn't write a sum-up of the recent war but mostly agree these pieces:



Use as open thread ...

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Preceding comments—-

Ukraine is already destroyed. Only current function is as a playground for CIA. Economy at African levels. No census in decades, they won’t admit how many have exited. Still lots of nuclear power plants and lord knows who tends them.

Posted by: Oldhippie | May 31 2021 17:57 utc | 101

@Posted by: Paco | May 31 2021 11:24 utc | 72

Also, it is good, and without doubt adds to tranquility, especialy for the Spanish people, that Mr. Lavrov asured they will not allow ever more another Yugoslavia, Lybia, Syria, due the current incursions by Morocco into Spanish sovereign territory ( by sending some 7000 young strong men in a round, with some 2000 children 7-10 years old embebed...) with the whole support expressed by the Biden administration, plus, if it were not enough, the coming NATO maneuvers to take place in Morocco, extending to the occupied by this country territory of Western Sahara ( still under protection by MINURSO...) to which everybody and their dogs have been invited to participate into, including non-EU countries, and even some ME ones, except Spain....

Astonishing, and very worrying, for Spain, one guesses...Wondering why they have not expressed outrage so far.

Posted by: Asha K. | May 31 2021 19:37 utc | 102

Mr. Posted by: Asha K. | May 31 2021 19:37 utc | 103

To express an opinion in Spain, in defense of her culture, is to be tainted by the accusation of being a Falangista.

The Left, still under the ideological hegemony of the Enlightenment, cannot utter the words: "Islam is incompatible with our culture and the Muslim immigrants are going to change Spain as she is today."

Posted by: Fyi | May 31 2021 19:46 utc | 103

Posted by: Roland Chrisjohn | May 31 2021 11:17 utc | 71:

The news I've seen is about how "sad" and "tragic" this is, as opposed to how "genocidal" and "criminal" it is. And no one (apart from me, 13 years ago) points out the contradiction between supposedly "apologizing" while suppressing the fact that thousands of Native children died in the custody of the Canadian government and major Canadian churches. How sincere is an apology that doesn't acknowledge the intent, scope, and magnitude of what the malefactor did?

Well said!!!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | May 31 2021 19:56 utc | 104

@mi 81
You are writing tons of stupid crap. Have you ever been in China? And i Xinjiang province? Ever seen the mosques in Urumqi, Kashgar, and other cities? Ever recognized that there are more publications in Uighur language than ever been before in history, that the People's Republic erased analphabetism? You are babbling about genocide, cultural when the facts are missing you, but what is Uighur culture, if not writings, clothing, dances, music, religious service for the believers in Islam (most but nor all Uighurs are). Uighur food is known and liked all over China, many Uighurs making a living out of.

Mind that Xinjiang never was an Uighur only territory, there always were other turk ethnics, Mongols, Hui, Han, Tibetans. The Uighur population has grown a lot since the revolution, even more after Deng's reforms.

Problems mainly exist in and with the more behind rural areas. Here the ETIM and World Uighur congress terrorists concentrate their propaganda. The "cultural genocide" largely consists of the insistment of the authorities on equal rights for education and professional training and job chances for females. Understandable that canadian crapheads join the jihad against, like they sided with the Bandera Nazis in Ukraine.

Posted by: aquadraht | May 31 2021 20:49 utc | 105

Posted by: Asha K. | May 31 2021 19:37 utc | 103

Thanks for your reply and for keeping an eye on events that concern Northern Africa and Spain in particular. In a way it is a wake up call and somehow it will bring into question the occupation, since that is the way I see it, we are an occupied country. So I hope it will be positive, if we react. Not only abused by the occupier but used as a tool to oppress our greatest asset, Latin America, I am optimist, our language will save us and give us a good spot at the multipolar world table.

Posted by: Fyi | May 31 2021 19:46 utc | 104

Allow me to disagree, fascism triumphed in Spain with the collaboration of the US in exchange for military bases that up to this day occupy our country. Religion plays an excessive part on your historical conclusions, do not limit yourself to it.

Posted by: Paco | May 31 2021 20:49 utc | 106

corvo @ 85
I disagree somewhat. CP has become (been?) a dumping ground for a few "radicals" from outfits like "The Nation" and I kind of get why a few people more oriented to Dem party politics are posted there. i.e., it's intention is to be somewhat a mixed bag.

but crap like this is a bridge over the river kwai too far. one can only rationalize so much. someone else will have to explain L Proyect to me. his tediousness never allows me to get to his accuracy.

part of the prob is i mostly enjoy St Clair himself a lot. and then he lets loose stinkers that should clear the auditorium...and David love love him. there's flowers and garbage.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | May 31 2021 21:24 utc | 107

@Posted by: Paco | May 31 2021 20:49 utc | 107

I what way religion plays an excessive part in my historical conclusions?
I have nor made any religious reference so far, that I can recall, in my comments here.

Are you not worried by the fact that the US is allying with Marocco in his invasion intends, by supporting them, and then goes on organizing military maneuvers along NATO and non-NATO countries just down the noses of Spain, without inviting them to participate?

Well, I thought you could be Spanish, sorry, I am now seeing you really do not mind...

Posted by: Asha K. | May 31 2021 21:35 utc | 108

Posted by: Asha K. | May 31 2021 21:35 utc | 109

The second part was for Fyi, sorry if it caused confusion.

Of course I'm concerned and hopeful that those events challenge the status quo, that is the military bases that Franco gave the US to save his rear as a Hitler ally.

Posted by: Paco | May 31 2021 21:48 utc | 109

@Posted by: Paco | May 31 2021 21:48 utc | 110

Ok, no worries, but, then, if you are really concerned, go now to the las thread on the Ryanair flight hoax, to see what my suspicions are, please.

May be you can warn someone in charge?

How does it go that saying? "hombre preventivo, vale por dos"..or something like that...

Posted by: Asha K. | May 31 2021 22:55 utc | 110

The international Palestine liberation movement grows new legs, now journalists in Australia and Canada are sick of following the 'PARTY LINE.'

This is the price of war:

Jeremy Corbyn addresses Palestine demonstration:

The ethnic cleansing of Palestine has gathered pace and tempo while the media refers to a 'truce.'

Posted by: Paul | May 31 2021 23:01 utc | 111

Mr. Paco | May 31 2021 20:49 utc | 107

I think it quite clear that thr Republic was the enemy of the Church a d the Church was the enemy of the Republic.

But I cannot see the hand of US shaking that of the Falange; if anything, the largely Protestant youth of US and England went to join the Republic against the Falang (and the Church).

Among the Catholics if the United States, the Cause of the Loyalists was widely supported because of their affinity for the Catholic Church.

The late General Franco joined NATO in order to get US money and to end the diplomatic isolation of Spain. That was years after the end of the Civil War in Spain.

Posted by: Fyi | Jun 1 2021 1:14 utc | 112

I used to come to this bar for a shot of Syria, and a chaser. The bar has been dry for awhile. S'up, s'up? president Assad just won the elections. Not a word from barflies, or b.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 1 2021 1:41 utc | 113

aquadraht | May 31 2021 17:07 utc | 95

what did you smoke?

Note that this is an analysis by one T Luongo:

Posted by: pogohere | Jun 1 2021 1:49 utc | 114

I don't see much upside in it for Putin in agreeing to meet in person with Biden. I mean why do it?

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Jun 1 2021 2:47 utc | 115

That is close to what this craphead wanted to see as a reply.

Never been to China.

What do you mean by "erased analphabetism"?

What I was trying to ask is what has the the Chinese Government been doing to promote, enhance, encourage, protect Uighur culture and religion?

What made a big difference for Aboriginals in Canada was foreigners, especially Europeans coming to the poverty stricken reserves and publicizing it.

There is a reason the Canadian Political Crapheads sided with the Bandera Nazis in Ukraine.

Tens of thousands of Ukrainians (called DPs, displaced persons) who emigrated to Canada after the second world war taught their children and grandchildren that the evil Russians stole their land.

Posted by: mi | Jun 1 2021 2:56 utc | 116

Posted by: Fyi | Jun 1 2021 1:14 utc | 113

The US dalliance with fascism and Franco is older than what you think:

Posted by: Paco | Jun 1 2021 5:28 utc | 117

‘To Assume’, makes an ‘Ass’ out of ‘U’ and ‘Me’. Each and every serious investigation into an event with multiple possible causes will require a disciplined approach to find out what happened. Which is why I previously emphasized the need to stick with the facts, and let them lead us, while refraining from giving in to this ‘need to KNOW’. There is much more that we do NOT know, but we bridge the gaps with assumptions. The risk is that once we formed an opinion, we miss certain facts which reveal themselves at a later stage, but which do not fit our narrative.

Because certain events have consequences, either in the real world, or manmade, because of sanctions, armed conflict, prosecution or public repercussions, we tend to look for shortcuts. While those complicit in what went down will try to steer us down empty rabbit holes. While we shouldn’t discard the possibility that the Belarus KGB was behind this Ryanair incident, it is less likely if they actively invite ICAO and other renowned organizations to investigate, if that is a serious offer. Those who do not ‘need’ an investigation, because they already ‘know’, on the other hand, are drawing attention to themselves.

While it is true that a number of parties desperately needed to shift the focus away from Gaza, and wouldn’t mind framing Hamas to be behind a bomb threat like this, it doesn’t necessarily point to specific state run parties, like the CIA, MI-6 or Mossad. Some ‘involved amateur’ could think of such a plot to be beneficial to his or her favorite cause, and act on it. Which includes activist organizations.

What we do know at this point, is that a shady organization fed by Mr. Khodorkovsky, arch-enemy of Russia under Putin, fed us the news about this second email, while it insisted that ‘Minsk’ could not have known about the first email. This is false, even if that first email was never sent to anyone in Belarus. Because Air Traffic Controllers are on an open line, and it would be standard protocol to pass on information about a bomb threat to the crew at the first available means, which would have been through Minsk ACC. Or security staff at Vilnius would have called their counterparts in Minsk. A bomb threat is serious stuff! Especially when not delivered in person, or by phone, so as to delay a flight, or something like that, but by email, or a written note. No way you can discard such a threat out of hand. Not even when the text looks ‘funny’, because some crazies, or ‘disturbed’ persons, are known to toy with bombs too.

It was in the news that Mr. Khodorkovsky killed his ‘Open Russia’ organization soon after the incident, citing fear of repercussions. And indeed, his St Petersburg operative was hauled from a plane as he was leaving the country, which is a fact. It happened. But why? Because the Kremlin took the cue from Khodorkovsky and cracked down on his network to boost his standing in circles working on regime change in Russia and Belarus? Or because they suspect Khodorkovsky and his crew to be behind this entire Ryanair scam? With the ‘added value’, from Mr. Khodorkovsky’s point of view, that his beloved Israel, the home of his former Yukos business partner, who also met with Litvinenko before the poor chap fell ill, and died in a London hospital, would be saved from answering more questions about Gaza.

Clearly the above is BASED on facts, and not in conflict with anything I know about the case at this stage, but it is only a ‘working theory’, and cannot be defended as ‘truth’. It is a plausible scenario, if Khodorkovsky and those around him wanted a high profile incident to trigger an avalanche of sanctions, while the pawn they used (with or without his consent) was not facing existential danger. Yet could be presented to the world as an honest journalist who risked being shot. At this stage this theory of mine is a perfect fit, but we need more FACTS to support it.

If this scenario is close enough to the truth, it could have been set in motion by private individuals, with, or without prior consent with western intelligence agencies.

Posted by: Jake | Jun 1 2021 9:00 utc | 118

Mr. Paco | Jun 1 2021 5:28 utc | 118

The URL that you have posted establishes a relationship between Texaco and the Loyalists and not between the United States and the Loyalists.

When people fight, others will supply them and make money off it; like Turkey supplying both Iran and Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War.

Or Sweden which bought quantities of English coal and then resold it to Germany - prolonging the war by months.

It is true that Texaco was a company of White Racists for decades. They really believed in the superiority of the Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

Posted by: fyi | Jun 1 2021 13:06 utc | 119

Posted by: fyi | Jun 1 2021 13:06 utc | 120

I wonder where did you get the term "loyalists", loyal to whom? The military hierarchy that broke its oath to the legal Spanish government, provoked a civil war with a million victims, served as training ground for the world war that ensued, and threw Spain half a century back in its development, caused three million spaniards to be scattered around the world and caused untold suffering to most of the population that could not get out of a closed country, and you call them loyalists?

The US as a government had and has the duty to observe and make its private companies comply with official US law and policy, and the hypocritical official policy was no intervention, if you read the article Texaco got away with a pittance, a small fine. Franco was a Hitler ally, sent troops to the Leningrad siege and to save his fascist ass gave away our sovereignty always claiming to be a "nationalist" when in fact he sold our nation so save his group of mediocre predators. The best of Spanish science, literature and arts was either destroyed, persecuted or exiled. I think I’ve lost enough time with you, best wishes.

Posted by: Paco | Jun 1 2021 14:51 utc | 120

Paco, fyi --

"Loyalist" is a term customarily applied to supporters of the Spanish Republic during the Spanish Civil War. The falangist, Franco side that eventually won is customarily referred to as the "nationalist" side.

Posted by: corvo | Jun 1 2021 15:10 utc | 121

Mr. corvo | Jun 1 2021 15:10 utc | 122

Thank you so much for correcting me.

Posted by: fyi | Jun 1 2021 15:53 utc | 122

Mr. Paco | Jun 1 2021 14:51 utc | 121

I have no dog in that fight between Spaniards, I was pointing out the religious component of that war.

For me, both sides of the war consisted of detestable murderous thugs.

Posted by: fyi | Jun 1 2021 15:57 utc | 123

Dear Israel. I am so so sorry

Posted by: farm ecologist | Jun 1 2021 17:18 utc | 124

Lavrov's been very busy at June's beginning. Here he addresses "the Sixth International Conference Russia and China: Cooperation in a New Era," emphasizing that the Treaty is a

"truly historical international document has put on record the development of a new model of our interstate relations and their progress to a fundamentally new stage....

"In fact, a comprehensive Russian-Chinese partnership is more than just a classical military-political union."

I applaud Lavrov's summation of the importance the Treaty has provided in stabilizing the world and turning back the Unipolar Moment:

"The Treaty, which is ahead of its time in some respects, is not limited to bilateral ties. Its provisions help expand our foreign policy cooperation. Bilateral dialogue is becoming particularly important on the international scene today, when some Western states are trying to demolish the UN-centric system of international law and to replace it with their own rules-based order. Moscow and Beijing consistently advocate the creation of a more equitable, democratic and therefore stable polycentric international order. This system should reflect the cultural and civilisational diversity of the modern world and the natural striving of nations to independently determine their development path. The very fact of the Russian-Chinese accord on this issue serves to stabilise and balance the entire system of international relations. It opens up broad opportunities for truly equitable and free cooperation between large and small countries jointly shaping their historical destiny." [My Emphasis]

Lavrov then addressed the BRICS Foreign Ministers meeting where his language seems aimed at putting pressure on India and Brazil:

"National egoism, a desire to ensure one’s domination at all costs and disregard for the interests of other countries are eroding the foundations of the multilateral system created after WWII. The cornerstone of this system is respect for international law, that is, the UN Charter, and not the so-called 'rules' invented by our Western colleagues....

"In this context, we would like to support our Indian friends’ initiative for the BRICS foreign ministers to coordinate a strong joint signal to the world in favour of strengthening and reforming the multilateral system of international relations on the solid foundation of international law, with the central role of the UN as the most universal and inclusive organisation in the world. It is now more important than ever for BRICS to speak out as one voice."

And for those needing the English transcript to yesterday's presser, click the link and you're there.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 1 2021 17:33 utc | 125

I see Sputnik has just published a recap of Lavrov's statements made over the past two days that contains information not yet posted to the MFA's website. For example, Macron apparently opened his yapper and spouted more Anti-Russian/Chinese crap:

"'Of course, it is what President Macron called the 'war on vaccines.' But to our great regret and contrary to the facts, he has declared Russia and China to be the main instigators of this so-called new world war,' the foreign minister noted." [My Emphasis]

Lavrov also reported success at the BRICS meeting on maintaining consensus regarding all things pandemic related. But as for the upcoming Summit, Lavrov isn't very optimistic for what ought to be obvious reasons and was the article's lead item:

"'As for the upcoming summit in Geneva on 16 June of the presidents of Russia and the United States, we are not creating illusions, we are not trying to create the impression that there will be some breakthroughs, some historic fateful decisions, but the very fact of a conversation between the two leading nuclear powers at the level of top officials, of course, is important, this needs to be supported in every possible way,' Lavrov said at a press conference." [My Emphasis]

Once it was very hard to discern any difference in Lavrov's approaches to genuine friends and foes; that can't be said any longer as he now displays a clear animus toward foes, especially their policies, both present and past. IMO, that's very important.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 1 2021 17:53 utc | 126

MONETARY IMPERIALISM is the key driving force of the global geopolitics. Any narrative on geopolitics that doesn’t discuss the overarching goal of “monetary imperialism” is missing this key driving force and more likely a misdirection.

Nations that want to be sovereign(China, Russia, Germany, South Korea, Iran, Venezuela,...), trade in non-$ currencies (national currencies), and have a state owned central bank (Belarus, China,...) are under attack by the Global Financial Syndicate. These nations need to be captured so they can be controlled for the dream of a global financial empire of the Global Financial Syndicate. In the case of some nations like Ukraine, Afghanistan, Israel... they have key geographical significance. Why aren’t good diplomats exposing this REALITY? Why do they want to be attacked in the Western MSM by more Anti-Russian/Chinese crap or be under surveillance? Reality trumps delusions!

Please share narratives (discussions, speeches, articles...) from good diplomats or leaders who defines the global REALITY and the global driving forces comprehensively and coherently. Who are the leaders with moral courage in our world?

“Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their peers, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence.”
– Robert F. Kennedy

Posted by: Max | Jun 1 2021 19:17 utc | 127

Russia announced its Public Debt Level as being @17% of GDP or about 19.7 Trillion Rubles ($286 Billion), which is an excellent figure that's stable and sustainable. The Outlaw US Empire on the other hand, as of the end of 4Q 2020, reports 129% of GDP, which is an improvement from earlier in the year when it reached 135%. Of course, we know the Outlaw US Empire's GDP is grossly overstated since many of its included positives are actually minuses related to Neoliberal Parasitism. So, I'll estimate genuine debt to GDP as 160%. Do take note from the linked chart that almost 100% of the debt generated since 2008-9 has been given to Wall Street and the top 5%. And the disparity will continue.

In tacit connection to this ongoing disparity is a series of Infographics, this being the latest, based on the Infrastructure Report Card made by the American Society of Civil Engineers every four years, which essentially proves Trump was correct to politically emphasize the great need to institute a MAGA policy, not just continue to shuffle trillions to the top 5% (although he continued to do exactly that). The great difference between Russia, China and the Outlaw US Empire is that Russia and China have instituted policies and have leadership that wants to make their nations the best they can be, while the latter clearly doesn't based on its longstanding behavior since the mid-1970s.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 1 2021 20:54 utc | 128

Today is International Children's Day, a day in which Putin has made the habit of addressing Russian families awarded the Order of Parental Glory. Putin's following words IMO explain the core of what Russia is about and what drives all its policies:

"I would like to repeat that the absolute priorities of our policy have been and always will be support to families with children and creating good conditions for bringing up children and for self-fulfilment of the younger generations. These provisions are directly fixed in the updated Constitution of Russia. They will be reflected in practice and implemented in all of our national projects and programmes. We will continuously intensify our efforts in this area and focus additional resources on these tasks."

Putin and all Russians are indeed dedicated to making a more perfect Russia, and they all understand that such an undertaking must support the nations #1 asset--its human capital. Xi and a few others might make similar speeches since they have very similar policies, but you won't ever hear such words from a Neoliberal captured politico or its nation as their policies are the polar opposite.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 1 2021 22:12 utc | 129

Zero Anthropology has written more words of wisdom for our pleasure:

"Through a continual succession of fear campaigns, Canadian universities are being intellectually sanitized to suppress, marginalize, and ideally to banish contrary thought. It is all done under the banner of familiar “good intentions”. In 2018, the panic was about “rape culture”. In 2019, it was about the “climate emergency”. In 2020, it was of course about “the pandemic”. In 2021, it is about “systemic racism”. What will it be next year? An outbreak of neo-fascist cannibalism?"

But there is much, much more. Some breakout reading yet again.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 1 2021 22:42 utc | 130

Patrick Lawrence hypothesizes Biden has no real policies foreign or domestic--"aimless" he calls them. I disagree as what's happening is the continuity of policy, some very longstanding, some as recent as Trump. For some reason he omits mention of Belarus and recent events centered on it, which is a continuation of the Hybrid War Obama launched against Russia, and constitutes Outlaw US Empire policy since GHW Bush announced the New World Order. Yes, Biden and Blinken deserve their belittling, but policy is happening.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 1 2021 23:16 utc | 131

karlof1@132, agree fully. biden was selected for the vacuity, although PL is correct when he cites biden as a criminal & chronic liar. nevertheless, the oligarchs ruling the demented empire have had a long standing plan. obama's 'pivot' to asia was a signal, the number of biolabs on russia's borders, the wars in sudan/ iraq/syria/libya all part of the plan, working to maintain dominance & ownership. palestine & the houthis currently are tipping the game. syria's massive election win another key. the world is changing very quickly. thank you for your links & observations. they are incredibly important.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Jun 2 2021 0:23 utc | 132

"Once it was very hard to discern any difference in Lavrov's approaches to genuine friends and foes; that can't be said any longer as he now displays a clear animus toward foes, especially their policies, both present and past. IMO, that's very important."
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 1 2021 17:53 utc | 127

Can't argue with that.
Unfortunately, the Crusaders are pretending not to notice the un-subtle shift in Russia's (and China's) approach to diplomacy with the West.

It's beginning to worry some observers. Last night, the 100th Anniversary of the creation of the Chinese Communist Party, broadcast the first episode of a new current affairs program called China Tonight. It's hosted by Stan Grant and inspired by the rift in relations between China and Oz. It began by exploring the trending reaction, on Chinese social media, to's sudden replacement of the One Child policy with a Three Child policy and such trivia as the rising popularity of stand-up comedy in China.

The program coincided with the current Oz-NZ Prime Ministers' summit in New Zealand from which a joint statement was issued accusing China of attempting to drive a wedge between Oz and NZ. The invited spokesman for China was the Deputy Head of China's diplomatic mission in Oz, Wang Xining whose opening remark was:
"We care about our own internal affairs not to be interfered, in any form, by other countries. On the other hand we do value the relationship between the two countries, Oz and NZ. Cooperation is still the central theme in today's world."
Stan then invited Wang to comment on the Joint Statement which he did with polite and logical dignity.

When that issue had been ventilated, China Tonight played a 1-minute video summary of the death, destruction and criminality of the US-UK's infamous Opium Wars on China to acquaint viewers with China's long-standing "NEVER AGAIN" policy.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 2 2021 1:41 utc | 133

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 2 2021 1:41 utc | 134 &

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 1 2021 23:16 utc | 132

I agree with both your valuable contributions, thank you.

Stan Grant lost me with his 'special' broadcast on Palestine several days ago. Full of all the usual hasbara talking points and intended for public consumption, to be swallowed whole. Obviously Grant was reading from script and was selected to front this disgraceful propaganda exercise because he identifies as a Wiradjuri man. That does not make Grant impartial, look at Warren Mundine, shamelessly and overtly pro Bandit State, now appointed to the ABC board. Grant's 'special' was devoid of real facts or context.

No wonder Grant's new job is to 'report' on China.Expect more of the same.

Posted by: Paul | Jun 2 2021 2:08 utc | 134

Thanks, karlof1 @132 for the link to the Consortium News piece - I appreciated the map of Nortstream, a different look from others I'd seen, giving a good perspective on the surrounding countries as well.

I'd agree Lawrence's perspective may be slightly askew, but he has listed the milestones in policy so far, good and bad, and to my mind the former outweigh the latter. Biden is being given some breathing space, it seems to me, either by chance or by design, and I don't fault him for doing nothing at this point. Syria has chosen to acclaim its leader; Israel is replacing theirs; Iran readying to do the same; the sands are shifting.

Is it too much to hope that a new, saner, quieter period might be a-borning?

I take the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the acceptance of Nordstream, even the desire for peace in Yemen as major policy events. And to the question of what kind of leader Biden may be, I draw a comparison. I've been going on and on about Dostoievski's novels, and that the last was written after the death of his three year old son. The hero of that novel has his son's name, and it is by far his greatest work. It is not too much to suppose that with all his frailties now, Biden will be trying to govern as his son Beau would have done (in his own mind) and I think he will do his best. I don't hope for much; there are forces as karlof1 well knows, that will 'stay the bloody course'. Damage will still be attempted.

I would liken Biden's presidency to that of Gerald Ford. The US then was in a shamed and battered shape, much like today.

Let's wait and see. Maybe Biden is what we need.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 2 2021 2:41 utc | 135

Posted by: Paul | Jun 2 2021 2:08 utc | 135
( and Stan Grant critique)

There's plenty to criticise about 'my' ABC in the post-9/11 Fake War On Terror era. I'm a "thankful for small mercies" type and am thus grateful that when ABC is broadcasting politically-correct tosh, for its Liberal Party Ma$ters, the agony isn't prolonged by the frequent ad breaks which infest all other TV 'news' sources.

I can still remember Lib Henchmen hauling young ABC radio Journo, Leigh Sales, over the coals for not calling Oz soldiers "Our Troops" after PM J Dubya Howard offered some sacrificial Oz lambs for the Iraq Fake War.

The upside for ABC viewers is that the ABC folks are alert to inconsistencies in the bs and use those to launch forays into Truth and Reality. It shouldn't be like that but it is and I admire the courage of the people who put their ABC careers at risk by letting some truth seep out.
It's far from ideal. But it's better than nothing.
And it hasn't been Privatised. Yet.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 2 2021 3:19 utc | 136

Based on some of the above then it might be said "the very fact of a conversation" is important enough for the two leaders to meet. But that still does not answer the question as to why meet in person? And juliania writes of forces that will 'stay the bloody course' regardless, as if those forces operate in a world of their own interests. Is Putin going to try to talk sense to Biden? It will be like talking to the wall. I do not see much upside for Putin is all I'm saying.

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Jun 2 2021 3:42 utc | 137

Below is a Xinhuanet posting showing interesting levels of communication between US/China

BEIJING, June 2 (Xinhua) -- Chinese Vice Premier Liu He, a member of the Political Bureau of the Communist Party of China Central Committee and chief of the Chinese side of the China-U.S. comprehensive economic dialogue, held a video conversation with U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen on Wednesday morning.

The two sides believed that the China-U.S. economic relations are very important.

In the spirit of equality and mutual trust, they conducted extensive exchanges on the macroeconomic situation and bilateral and multilateral cooperation, candidly exchanged views on issues of mutual concern, and expressed willingness to maintain communication.

Xinhuanet has another posting that I am providing one quote from but not providing link to. The posting writes about how China is maintaining yuan float against other currencies

The quote
The central bank has also stressed that the managed floating system of the yuan's rate, based on market supply and demand and adjusted by reference to a basket of currencies, is an arrangement that suits China at present and for some time in the future.

"...adjusted by reference to a basket of currencies,..." is an interewting concept but the devil is in the will it protect against Forex manipulation by BIS?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 2 2021 4:17 utc | 138

Basic US policies are resistant to change by anyone. That includes especially the US role of world hegemon. This requires an intensive world-wide military involvement and assistance to US corporations in privatizing foreign corporations, and along with those a large military and maximum interference internally in other countries. Those translate to the requirement for Russia and China as enemies, Russia because it promotes US control of Europe and China because its form of government (government control of corporations) has produced a terrific increase in living standards plus a large military, while the US and Europe languish. Biden, a weak go-along man, can't change those realities.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 2 2021 4:21 utc | 139

Juliana #136

We must live in hope. Biden may do something good - but greed can drive a soul into the arms of evil.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 2 2021 6:03 utc | 140

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 2 2021 4:17 utc | 139

Yes, thank you, I have noticed of late that Blinken has been visiting various out-of-the-way places that cannot say no to his visit, I suspect he is in the doghouse. So I agree something is up there with China. Biden seems to be very "divided" in his policies, like there are many people making policy, or maybe just running their mouth, all the time.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 2 2021 7:45 utc | 141

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 2 2021 3:19 utc | 137

Of course the long term goal is to 'privatise' the ABC. This goal has been pushed by Murdoch for decades. The Murdoch policy is to eliminate competition. The government of the day facilitates media policy accordingly.

I just saw on RT English TV Australia's ABC journalists are prohibited from using the word 'Apartheid' in connection with the Bandit State. HOWZAT.

I guess Tony Abbotts, Zionised Uncle Tom, Warren Mundine, now a board member of the ABC, won't mind 'The Two State Solution' to repair race relations in Australia.

The indigenous Australians, under this proposal, that has never worked anywhere in history, can live in an enclave in NE Arnhem land and their capital will be Nhulumboy. Of course, no fishing allowed. Expect periodic bombings and 'border changes' and further 'negotiations.'

The rest of the indigenous population can live as second class citizens in the Apartheid State utopia of Australia.

Who knows, 'the two state solution' might even catch on in NZ?

Posted by: Paul | Jun 2 2021 7:46 utc | 142

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Jun 2 2021 3:42 utc | 138

There are two reasons to meet:

1.) To see what Biden has to say.
2.) To see how it all is handled by "Biden".

Sometimes you can see in a minute of conversation what cannot be gleaned from any amount of reading or video.

In other words, for clarity. Given the prevalence of bullshit these days, I'd do the first meet for free, as long as "Biden" was not a dick about it, which he seems in his feeble way to be trying to do.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 2 2021 7:57 utc | 143

A sobering tale from Matthew Alford printed in the Grayzone.

"A mainstream academic outlet called The Conversation green-lighted my article on foreign policy issues Western media refuses to discuss. With the piece ready to go live, everything went horribly wrong." In this excellent report Alford explains how the mainstream media (ie state/culture propagandists) manage the sounds of silence.

In 1975, Indonesia’s Suharto dictatorship invaded and occupied its small neighbor, East Timor, engaging in engineered famine, forced marriage and sterilization, bombing, and mass executions. US coverage of East Timor in leading newspapers actually decreased after the invasion and flattened as the atrocities peaked. In the New York Times, it consisted of a mere five lines for the entire year of 1977.

Although the US did not commit troops, their diplomatic and military support was vital to Indonesia’s war; when they were withdrawn in the late 1990s, Indonesia in turn withdrew from the island. A senior CIA officer in Indonesia, then retired, told filmmaker John Pilger:

"There were people being herded into school buildings and set on fire [and] into fields and machine-gunned […] We sent the Indonesian generals everything that you need to fight a major war against somebody who doesn’t have any guns. […] You name it; they got it […] None of that got out in the media. No one gave a damn."

Since the 1998 election of Hugo Chavez, Venezuela has routinely been demonized as a “socialist dictatorship.” In April 2019, Juan Guaidó called on the military to overthrow Chavez’s successor, Nicolás Maduro, and literally zero elite US commentators opposed him, instead dubbing the attempted coup as an “uprising,” a “protest,” or even an “opposition-led military-backed challenge.”

Do read this excellent examination of smothering free speech and the management of consent.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 2 2021 8:04 utc | 144

Bemildred #144

Agreed, a meeting is the ideal way to ascertain if there is scope for optimism. I doubt that this will be the case. I see current Afghanistan 'withdrawal' as totally fake or reversable. There will be no end to the UKUSAi beligerence, it is a fixture and yet it may work in Putin's favor in respect of his allies and world observer nations. I expect to see smoke wafting from the propaganda wurlitzer of the West.

Can you imagine the apoplexy of the Rachel Maddows and Boris Johnsons of this world if they actually talked on and had a good chummy time. The USAi is lost in the rabbit hole of self delusion and is incapable of returning anytime soon.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 2 2021 10:21 utc | 145


Yes to all that. I know if I was in Putin's position, as long as I could guarantee no attempts on my life, or other stupid behavior, I would be eager to get a chance to examine "Biden".

Just think how nice the world would be like with no politicans and no salesmen.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 2 2021 12:46 utc | 146

@ further to tungsten:

The Borg can see that it cannot hope to defeat or control China&Russia, but is yet in denial and thinks it is competent anyway, so it attempts to create chances for itself. When it is ready to agree with others who have said so that the War of Terror was the stupidest foreign policy blunder since Hitler attacked the USSR, at least, then it might be able to do something positive for itself. As it stands, it will immediately plunge back into stupid if given any slack.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 2 2021 12:54 utc | 147

WHO member was investigating himself.

China **AND** the US were working on this.

Posted by: librul | Jun 2 2021 12:59 utc | 148

Posted by: librul | Jun 2 2021 12:59 utc | 149

Not to mention the WHO. It is looking more and more that this is an engineered virus. Now why do you think the WHO, US and China amongst others would want to cover that up?

Posted by: Bluedotterel | Jun 2 2021 13:20 utc | 149

“Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their peers, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence.”
– Robert F. Kennedy

Posted by: Max | Jun 1 2021 19:17 utc | 128

Somehow the Joint Chiefs of Staff/CIA/FBI
learned that the Kennedy brothers had given up to the Soviets a critical spy.
JFK/(RFK) had made this Super Hardball Choice in order to defuse the Cuban Missile Crisis and avoid WWIII.
A war which the Joint Chiefs of Staff wanted.

There are many ways that they might have learned.
Sometimes reality is better than a Hollywood script
sometimes they are perfect for each other.

“Marilyn said that when she and [John] Kennedy were together he would whisper things to her that were… classified, state secrets,”

“Then, later on, had a romance with Bobby Kennedy, the Attorney General. Everybody wanted to get their hands on the diary because she wrote down some incriminating things in her diary.”

The diary in question hasn't been seen since Marilyn’s death in August 1962.

Daniel Ellsberg is back and challenging the Espionage Act. He revealed that the US military "loved the bomb"
well before even the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Posted by: librul | Jun 2 2021 13:32 utc | 150

Helmer's latest:

Novichok Inquest to be Stopped

"After replacing the Salisbury coroner in January of this year, and after a single hearing on March 30 by secret-service advisor and ex-judge Baroness Heather Hallett, briefings by the Cabinet Office and the security services has led to the decision that the only way of preserving the government's narrative of a Russian nerve agent attack, first against Sergei and Yulia Skripal [Where are they, anyway?] then against Sturgess, is to introduce Defence Ministry and MI6 evidence in secret session..."

Such important developments in an almost totally neglected story.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 2 2021 13:48 utc | 151

Among the many items being discussed at the SPIEF, there's one that caught my eye:

"The Post-COVID World and the Sharing Economy"

Here are a few excerpts from The Sharing Economy's Preview:

"It was only recently that the collective model of consumption known as the sharing economy saw a huge growth in popularity. Sharing was a key trend before the pandemic — has COVID-19 brought an end to this phenomenon?"


"Sharing in the 21st century is a new collective philosophy... The idea of personal property is losing its attractiveness, but what is the world of sharing that hopes to replace it? How have views on sharing changed during the pandemic? Where will sharing take over, and what will its limits be? What opportunities and challenges can the tool of digitalization bring to sharing? Can the new values of generations Y and Z find a common language? How can sharing be managed and monitored, and what problems does this pose for the state and consumers? Does change begin at the level of the state, the company or the individual? Communication sharing. A permanent presence on social networks and the collective consumption of information. A new collective philosophy, from the individual to the collaborative."

I have yet to see Public Banking as a topic, but clearly the collective idea of sharing directly attacks the Zero-sum nature of Neoliberalism and Capitalism generally.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 2 2021 16:41 utc | 152

thecelticwithinme | Jun 2 2021 3:42 utc | 138: Thanks for mentioning my "stay the bloody course". That phrase worried me after I'd used it, as it could and should mean 'prevent the bloody course' which is not how I'd intended. "Stay on" would have been better, though not an accurate use of the phrase. Sorry if it jarred with others.

I assume you are objecting that Biden is part of the problem, and I'd certainly agree that he has been. However, life fortunately is not (or need not be) a stagnant pool completely enshrouded in an oil slick. Or I should say, even when that is the apparent case, life manages to continue. Ever since in my youth I saw green shoots forcing their way through the tarmac, I've been an optimist. Can't stop now; it's too late.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 2 2021 17:02 utc | 153

More truth (or pus, depending on one's perspective) leaks out....

The Queen’s courtiers banned “coloured immigrants or foreigners” from serving in clerical roles in the royal household until at least the late 1960s, according to newly discovered documents that will reignite the debate over the British royal family and race.

The documents also shed light on how Buckingham Palace negotiated controversial clauses – that remain in place to this day – exempting the Queen and her household from laws that prevent race and sex discrimination.

The papers were discovered at the National Archives as part of the Guardian’s ongoing investigation into the royal family’s use of an arcane parliamentary procedure, known as Queen’s consent, to secretly influence the content of British laws.

and from a few months ago...

Queen lobbied for changes to three more laws, documents reveal

Posted by: John Cleary | Jun 2 2021 17:22 utc | 154

Ron Ridenour on the Danish Spying Scandal tells the Danes they could be Assanged:

"Another irony is that Denmark’s media, both DR and daily newspapers, did not even cover the extradition trial of Julian Assange in England—nor do they support him. Apparently, Danish media is afraid to back up an active publisher who reveals how the U.S. spies upon any and all, as well as conducting aggressive wars for self-interest profiteering. Yet DR has published a Danish whistleblower’s expose of its own government spying for Big Daddy.

"Following DR’s first FE/NSA expose, I spoke on the telephone with DR foreign affairs editor Niels Kvale about the U.S. government threat to all journalists who reveal its 'national security secrets'. I told him that DR reporters could be prosecuted in the U.S. just as they seek to do with Julian Assange. Kvale replied: 'I was not aware of that. This sounds interesting. Send me your article and I will inform our journalists.'"

Ridenour provides an excellent summary of a very unfinished story.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 2 2021 17:25 utc | 155

karlof1 @153, the concept of a sharing economy as "new" has reality for those generations upcoming who were born into and have lived through this shambles of an economy which presents itself as TINA as far as they are concerned. And like the green shoots I was mentioning, they intrinsically know this is tarmac and they must push through it.

I am so grateful to have lived to see this happening. Thank you for bringing this link.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 2 2021 17:26 utc | 156

To insist on the importance of vit. d, see the comment of
Eshani M King on this page
(a 2020 article on the T cells role)

Posted by: Mina | Jun 2 2021 18:05 utc | 157

From ZH:

Iran's Largest Warship Mysteriously Catches Fire And Sinks In Gulf Of Oman
Just as negotiators were preparing to meet in Vienna on Wednesday to wrap up the latest round of talks on reviving the Iran nuclear deal, Iran's largest warship caught fire Wednesday in the Gulf of Oman and sank under unclear circumstances.

Posted by: Paul | Jun 2 2021 18:20 utc | 158

juliania @157--

Thanks for your reply! Honestly, I was somewhat surprised to see that topic amongst the sea of a great many others listed for the SPIEF's three days of activity this year. IMO, comparing Putin's short welcoming address to participants with his long detailed Davos Speech is warranted.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 2 2021 18:27 utc | 159

Paul @159--

Vienna was bound to fail given the inability of the Outlaw US Empire to act to remove all sanctions on Iran since Congress controls the keys to many of those illegal actions. That reality is rarely mentioned, but it's the key fact nonetheless. Khamenei is quite aware of it, and seems willing to allow the circus to continue after the upcoming elections.

The vessel was one of Iran's largest "Naval Support Vessels", not a warship. Might have been sabotage, or not, of the electrical system that caused the fire which raged out of control forcing the ship to be abandoned before it sank.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 2 2021 18:39 utc | 160

NordStream2 project "has entered the home stretch" as the Russian end makes ready to start gas delivery. But I still think its becoming operational won't remove it from being a political football.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 2 2021 19:45 utc | 161

Posted by Karlof1 @ 161

thanks for your reply. Your analysis of the illegal sanctions issue is sadly correct.

These things have happened before. HMAS Westralia suffered hose rupture on the diesel return hoses causing a huge fire. The original solid hoses were replaced with flexible hoses. The PSI pressure of the surging motors was too much for those hoses to take, beware.

Posted by: Paul | Jun 2 2021 19:56 utc | 162

karlof, ref post covid sharing: in "be ready to share with the rest of the world the same (lower) salary scale in exchange for rent etc subsidies and the right to stay at home"?

Posted by: Mina | Jun 2 2021 20:13 utc | 163

Geopolitics collide with critical minerals:

Further reading, 'The Rare Metals War':

Posted by: Paul | Jun 2 2021 20:53 utc | 164

I've confirmation that Putin will address the SPIEF's "June 4 plenary session, where Russian President Vladimir Putin is expected to deliver an address on the country’s socio-economic development and investment attractiveness, will be the highlight of the forum." According to the program, Putin will speak from 1400-1600 local time and the event will be broadcast, but I'm currently unable to provide any info about that.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 2 2021 21:06 utc | 165

Very long interview with Peter McCullough. Will keep you on edge of your seat. Final takeaways-
The disease is treatable and has always been easy to treat. Every doctor who has decided to treat his patients (do his job) (follow his Oath) has come up with a protocol that is substantively effective.
This was never about the virus. It has always been about the vaccine. Getting the vaccine into everyone’s arm has been pursued to lengths beyond reason.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 2 2021 21:07 utc | 166

Paul #165

Thank you for the link to johnmenadue and that report. One line is worth repeating here:

The usefulness of Australia’s reliance on great and powerful friends has come to an end as the American empire declines and the geopolitical order becomes increasingly bipolar.

Yes, order is increasingly bipolar in the USAi ;)

Sad to see that Menadue has turned off the comments.... too many heretics challenging the paradigm.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 2 2021 21:24 utc | 167

oldhippie #167

Thank you for the link. Sadly the medical profession has been largely colonised by the merchant class and the oligarch big pharma companies and they appear to have no independent voice. Perhaps this could yet emerge but they are, of necessity, a conservative bunch. Public hysteria driven by corporate greed - disgraceful.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 2 2021 21:35 utc | 168

Mina @164--

Thanks for your reply and query. Yours is difficult to answer thanks to the current vast inequities in existence globally. For ease of example, lets assume global GDP is $80,000,000,000,000 and population is 7,500,000,000 giving us @ $10,667 in annual GDP per capita. Now, depending on your circumstances that might be too little or too much based on your level of household expenses. And then we have the Moral Question that comes directly from the vast inequities that exist--why should one have more than another? That of course is the #1 Question since the establishment of hierarchical societies over 20-50,000 years ago. The onset of Mercantilism and Capitalism @1500 and the very inequitable outcomes they continue to generate complicate the Question's resolution since it gave rise to a Class that thinks itself superior to all, while also generating a Class that believes equitability is the only way to achieve peace and civility. Clearly, those advancing a collectivity based on sharing are of the latter class and are seen by the former as an Existentially Dangerous Hydra that must be slain at any and all costs--it must not be allowed to exist. And that's what the Cold War was ultimately about, just as our more modern version is yet another chapter in that same well worn book of human history.

Eventually, a steady-state economy will need to arise because of resource scarcity and sharing will become a requirement. Reaching that state IMO will require a rather needful evolutionary change in human culture and societies. Lennon composed Imagine and was murdered for it, but his idea wasn't his alone and was deep within his roots as an Englander; the French had theirs too.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 2 2021 21:48 utc | 169

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 2 2021 21:24 utc | 168

Thanks for the reply. I'm glad you enjoyed the article. It's hard to argue against the facts.

However, politicians seldom let the facts get in the way of fixed ideas or policy, no matter how illconceived or stupid.

Menadue announced a week ago he was turning off the comments because moderation was too time consuming.

I recommend 'The Rare Metals War.'

Posted by: Paul | Jun 2 2021 22:01 utc | 170

Lennon composed Imagine and was murdered for it

karlof1, there was a deep hatred of John Lennon that goes back to the Royal Variety Performance in 1964.

The Beatles were top of the bill. During the performance Lennon suggested that instead of applauding, the Windsor family should instead "rattle their jewelry". This did not go down well.

The Windsors hate Northern socialists, and they hate Liverpool in particular.

This is the latest "Go Fuck Yourself If You Don't Like It" (Honi spit qui mal y pense)

The families of the 96 people unlawfully killed at Hillsborough as a result of gross negligence by the police fought for justice for more than three decades. The collapse of the trial of two former police officers and a solicitor, after a judge ruled that the men had no case to answer, marks a cruel end to one of the bravest and longest-lasting of all British justice campaigns. The institutions that between them make up the policing and legal system should be deeply ashamed. First, Hillsborough’s victims and survivors were blamed. Now, they have been let down yet again.

There have been many individual and organisational failures over the years, beginning with inadequate planning by the police and others for the FA Cup semi-final in Sheffield on 15 April 1989. The media, specifically the Sun newspaper which joined in with police efforts to smear the victims, 37 of whom were teenagers, are implicated in some of these.


Posted by: John Cleary | Jun 2 2021 22:16 utc | 171

Uncle tungsten @ 169

McCullough talks a good bit about just what you describe. From the POV of a prominent researcher/editor/clinician who is not also a member of the big club.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 2 2021 22:20 utc | 172

The Rat Netanyahoo is out and will hopefully soon be found guilty of his fraud and sent to prison where he belongs. That doesn't mean the next bunch to oversee Occupied Palestine will be any better, just that they'll be different names and faces.


John Cleary @172--

Thanks for your reply and further evidence that Cromwell's alive and well. I got to thinking that the Bolshevik attempt to collectivize USSR's agriculture was akin to England and Europe's Enclosure since its primary aim was to raise Capital via trade in foodstuffs, not to feed the masses as was propagandized. Cunningham's blistering op/ed about the Danish Spy Scandal has this nugget:

"It follows therefore that Russia and China are wasting their political energy by appealing to the Europeans to improve relations. Maybe sometime in the future relations will make progress but that will be when the EU really has independence from American hegemony. And that will require the present status quo among European politics to be overhauled by popular revolt."

And that would bring an end to the EU as presently constituted.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 2 2021 22:40 utc | 173

To uncle tungsten old hippie and others who are following the nightmare. Here is a link to an international teleconference on the subject of ivermectin. it is quite long, but at the very least I recommend you to watch the interview with Dr. Jackie Stone in zimbabwe and Dr. Sabine Hazan in california, which are the first two. They have achieved some amazing results. The interviews continue with a discourse about affairs in india, peru and mexico. In each country the positive results are wonderful.

To my mind it is absolutely criminal that this treatment is being supressed and witheld. It seems to be big bucks pharma in combination with the silicon valley control freaks who are controlling the narrative. Unfortunately, maddeningly, I see and hear all around me absolutely brainwashed people who mumble the incantation "we need to "vaccinate" we need identity cards we need control. Fear talking I guess. Tragic. We could have the problem under control in two weeks with ivermectin and completely resolved in a month.

Posted by: Miss Lacy | Jun 2 2021 23:17 utc | 174

Pardon me. I forgot to mention the most charming and informative Dr. Lucy Kerr in brazil.

Posted by: Miss Lacy | Jun 2 2021 23:20 utc | 175

@175 Miss Lacy

Thank you, that was fun. I loved the story of Zimbabwe. And amazing Dr. Hazan in Ventura, California, and the whole town knows about it now, because she's very assertive, and smart enough to call the local newspaper as a patient recovers - "Ventura is very slow now in the Covid space" she says. Cute. How many Venturas does California need for the whole state to go Ivermectin?

This is going to be an outright war, isn't it, as the word continues to spread, a war between big tech collaborating with big pharma to suppress the story in order to sell corporate product, and the people, as they begin to see this amoral, criminal scam being played out in real time all around them.


Many thanks to you and the others here spreading this happy news that there is a prophylaxis and there is a treatment and there is a post-recovery regimen for the long-haulers. And unlike the experimental gene therapy "vaccines", this drug stops transmission as well as defeating the virus in the individual.

I'm dosing up on IVM, as the inoculated all around me blithely spread the disease far and wide. This winter in the US, as commenters here have long predicted, the flu will suddenly reappear again, and with the PCR test cycles turned way down, no cases of Covid will be detected.

A miracle! -- /s

Posted by: Grieved | Jun 3 2021 4:14 utc | 176

I'm trying to decide whether *kingmaker* Yair Lapid is an idiot or a genocidal right wing plant whose purpose is to render the remains of centrist politics in Occupied Palestine totally impotent.

Lapid leads a political party which enjoyed great success in the last two elections. His platform has been one of moderation, though it must be pointed out he has never been supportive of the return of all land stolen after 1967.
Yet despite his popularity Lapid has opted for a certain vote-killer, that is being the supporting faction in a coalition government led by someone even more rightist than Nuttyahoo.
Students of politics, particularly the politics of nations who by way of proportional representation or highly factionalized communities know that being the bridesmaid rather than the groom in a coalition marriage guarantees that the bridesmaid's political movement will take a massive hit in the next election.
Here in Aotearoa which has a complex form of PR, where the current Ardern government is the first this century to be able to govern on its own, (altho it chose not to) have witnessed the price a *junior* coalition member pays many times since the introduction of PR. A junior member is held accountable by its electorate for every bad decision of government, yet the good popular moves are always credited to the major partner, he/she who holds executive power.

Why? Because the executive controls the messages & coalition agreements inevitably include clauses that prohibit members of the government from criticising government.
In the first two years of this Knesset, it will be rightist arsehole Naftali Bennett's party which will control the executive.

Abbas, the Raam leader may avoid that payback simply because the Palestinian people have learned the hard way only to expect the worst from the invaders' preposterous facsimile of *democracy*.
But Lapid is another matter especially considering he has previously held the position of finance minister in a Nuttyahoo administration.
He is, for want of a better simile, a Bernie, sent out by the rabid fascists of Occupied Palestine to distract the bleeding heart voters & shepherding them into a zone where nothing of their alleged desires for a better deal for the indigenous population will ever be realised, so they can feel good, virtue signal or whatever without actually 'endangering apartheid israel'.
It is inconceivable that Bennett will simply hand over the reins in two years, he has executive power, independent of caucus including amongst other things control of the army, police & security services. Maybe he'll do a nuttyahoo, maybe he will be more creative who knows, but one way or the other he will argue "changed circumstances" have made the deal no longer meaningful.
Bennett will know that if an election is held in two years his party will do much better and Lapid's much worse.
If they go to an election 2024 he will be in an even stronger position to continue as PM afterwards.

The only question is whether Lapid is a charlatan or a fool.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jun 3 2021 4:42 utc | 177

@ Grieved | Jun 3 2021 4:14 utc | 177 with further discussion about Ivermectin

What I would like to see for the somewhat challenged like me is a range of prescription amounts of Ivermectin, Vit D, Zinc and maybe other components in the treatment mix of drugs.

And then again like you note there will likely be different amounts for prophylaxis than there is for kick ass treatment.

Being an attorney maybe you could help that information get into the public domain....tell me what to do....I also want to have supplies of this Ivermectin based health assist that financialized Big Pharma/Finance don't want me to have for whatever Covid befalls us.

For a Fist Full of Dollars and A Few Dollars More.....we have this shit show

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 3 2021 4:53 utc | 178

@179 psychohistorian

noted - give me time (24 hours max) - hang in with this thread, and I'll bundle up everything you need, or at least what little I know, in one comment.

unless someone beats me to it :)

Posted by: Grieved | Jun 3 2021 5:29 utc | 179

Psychohistorian @ 179

Suggested dosing at Home for Drs. Kory, Marik, Varon. Regimens for prophylaxis, for early treatment, and for hospitalized. Personally I would go much higher on the vitamin D, especially if lacking access to ivermectin. But that is a detail.

There are now proposals to make D prescription only and of course doctors will be discouraged from prescribing. You might want to stock up. But how much would you need to last until this is over? Will medical tyranny ever be over?

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 3 2021 5:47 utc | 180

@167 oldhippie

I'm still watching the last 30 minutes of the McCullough interview. You are correct about sitting on the edge of your seat.

I was impressed with him when he testified before that Texas committee, and so was the legislature afterwards. But this interview really is a mind-stopper. It's a captivating, compelling story of what happened when the coronavirus appeared in the US, and the path we have traveled since.

We have so many stories coming out now, with the wonderful news of treatment and normal life, and hope. Clear skies are appearing - and through very dark clouds that we increasingly see now were seeded deliberately.

And of all the stories, McCullough is uniquely positioned to tell the whole story, from its start until now, as a clinician beyond any challenge, with credentials and standing beyond any possibility of smear, and he is testifying to history. He knows that the US is in a shameful period in its medical history, and that the record is simply one of hundreds of thousands of needless deaths, deliberately allowed to happen. He knows what history will record here, and his voice will be a pillar in that record.

I downloaded it, as I do with everything, and I'll give the file to friends, and even offer to sit with them while they watch it. That's how highly I value it. It's long. And I always prefer a transcript. But this one I'm watching. This is the clinical record of what the corporate takeover of the US nation has done to its inhabitants in a medical crisis.

And even close to the end, I couldn't watch any more without coming back here to thank you for it.

Doctors, too, will have to live with what they did. Were they courageous, and true to their oath even against the threat of losing their license, or did they collapse under the ungodly pressure that a force of massive institutional will, and intention, put them under?

That link again:
Full Interview: World Renowned Doctor Blows Lid Off Of Covid [1:45:28]

Posted by: Grieved | Jun 3 2021 5:54 utc | 181


Yes, it gets hard to watch. Lots more to come in final thirty. Beneath the professional manner the human drama is right there.

With this, with the Fauci emails, with all the reports of vaccine adverse events (I have two friends finally listening to me now that he vaccines have knocked them down) it becomes clear that the entire past two years have been scripted. We are not near the end of the story.

Fauci is plainly being thrown under the bus. Hard to believe that one is the original script. Peter Daszak, inspiration for The Constant Gardener, is coming to fore. Why?

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 3 2021 6:10 utc | 182

About Ivermectin, I've managed to get 2 boxes, one is by Mylan and one by Sandoz, each are 4 pills of 3 mg.
For a normal treatment in the case of mild symptoms, I would need to take one full box per day for five days.
The problem is that I paid respectively 10 euros and 15 euros for them. That would be quite expensive a treatment, although we know it is being manufactured for very cheap elsewhere.
What is going on here?

Posted by: Mina | Jun 3 2021 6:41 utc | 183

HarmonyOS 2.0 is out in China. Has anybody tried it out yet?

Posted by: Smith | Jun 3 2021 7:08 utc | 184

@183 oldhippie, @184 Mina - and psychohistorian et al

I watched it to the end. He was Mr. Doctor at the beginning and by the end he's Mr. Conspiracy, but he himself hasn't changed. The last year and a half have surfaced the conspiracy such that the sane person now talks about this conspiracy as normal life - because it is normal life, and it surrounds and suffuses us all.

And as McCullough tells us, people know. The blacks always knew, and were just waiting for someone like him to break that truth out of its packaging. And all the people know now. The hospitals are empty, because no one will go there. The advertising for vaccine is relentless, but no one is buying. Everyone is afraid of the vaccine, even as the virus itself now becomes known as treatable - a hassle for sure, but not really any big deal.

But the vaccine? That's a killer.

The deaths prove it, and in any other case, McCullough shows, the deaths alone would have shut down the program. 25 deaths would shut down an experimental vaccine. This one has 4,000 deaths, at the low end, and still runs forward in high gear.

So why? Why do they want a needle in every arm, taking parental control away from 12-year olds and letting them "choose" voluntarily to get the shot?

In the parlance of the day, what in the actual fuck is going on?


War. War is what it is, and I suspect and hope that the powers at the top have miscalculated, even as they play out this dangerous gambit.

History, if there is a history - and I think there will be a history, if only far in the future - history will show that the nonhumans tried to enslave the humans in a way that was too obvious. They overplayed, and this was caused by hubris. And hubris, in history's review of things, will appear as the self-defeating dynamic that a truly fair universe has injected into the scheme of things so that wicked people can hang themselves.

And they will hang. We have been polite, in this cosseted age. But the gloves are coming off for the exploiters, the plantation owners, and in similar fashion, the gloves are going to come off for the humans who fight against this.

In a way, the future seems filled with clarity. The struggle is revealing itself in crystalline terms. And in the words of the eminent physician who attempts to parse this madness in the view of sanity: "Bring 'em on."

Posted by: Grieved | Jun 3 2021 7:11 utc | 185


Posted by: john | Jun 3 2021 7:14 utc | 186

Chile Confounds: New Left Review reports on the development of a constitution change and the election of delegates to the Constitutional Convention. Camila Vergara gives a detailed assessment here.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 3 2021 7:35 utc | 187

Mina #184

Cheaper if you get the horse wormer pellets and sort it into 10x human size portions. The Ivermectin is pelletised with vegetable matter. A bit of roughage with a saviour punch ;)

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 3 2021 7:39 utc | 188

National sovereignty for US 'allies' lost in the days of universal jurisdiction, manifest destiny and imperial hubris.

Now the US wields $2.6 billion tariff threat against six nations over digital taxes:

"The US has threatened to slap tariffs on $US2 billion ($2.6 billion) worth of goods from the UK and five other countries as they argue about how to tax technology companies, a move that risks re-igniting transatlantic trade wars unless the parties resolve thorny talks over a broader international tax agreement.
The office of the US Trade Representative said it was imposing but immediately suspending for six months the tariffs on Austria, India, Italy, Spain, Turkey and the UK as it wrapped up a series of investigations over the way the countries tax US tech giants."

How is that for confidence in the 'rules based international order'?

Posted by: Paul | Jun 3 2021 7:41 utc | 189

New Eastern Outlook takes a look at a potentially evil brew: Rebirth of a Strategic Partnership between Saudi Arabia and Pakistan

During a three-day visit to Riyadh in early May, the prime minister of Pakistan, Imran Khan together with his top military official Qamar Javed Bajwa confirmed Islamabad’s decision to revive the strategic alliance between Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

Khan’s meeting with Saudi crown prince Muhammad bin Salman Al Saud resulted in a number of agreements getting signed on the restoration of bilateral ties between the states, that had previously been complicated by disagreements over Kashmir. Among them were deals on cooperation in the field of nuclear energy, intelligence sharing, special forces training, and oil assistance.

In accordance with the provisions of the signed memorandum of understanding between the states, a council on further cooperation is going to be established that will be entrusted with the task of developing a comprehensive rapprochement roadmap. To implement their joint plans, the countries will need to employ at least ten million workers over the next decade, with the majority of them coming from Pakistan, effectively elminating the problem of unemployment for Islamabad. Riyadh has vowed to allocate 500 million dollars from the Saudi development fund, which will be spent on the construction of hydroelectric, desalination and infrastructure projects in Pakistan.

This is bound to end well for the workers ;{

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 3 2021 7:45 utc | 190

McCullough also says at the beginning that the virus preys on obese ppl and this is known already with other pulmonary diseases. Campbell explained it very well more than a year ago too. So if you have a teenage obese kid and you travel a lot... you may actually want to try the vaccine. Just to say.
But if you can, better wait a few more months or half a year so you get better tried vaccines that are actually adequate to the new strains.

Posted by: Mina | Jun 3 2021 8:02 utc | 191

@179 psychohistorian

Okay - how to get and use Ivermectin.

Here are some dosage suggestions:
Ivermectin Dose For COVID (Prophylaxis, Acute Disease, Long Haulers) - 9 mins

This is FLCCC's latest update on the treatment protocol:

As Dr. Syed explains in the first video, this is a new use of a long-existing medicine. Treatments are being prescribed by individual doctors according to their clinical judgment, as it has always been in medicine, so there will be variances in the regimens suggested.

The point is that with ivermectin, the variance is not a killer. It's safe enough that we can play with it to establish what's effective. Settle for your comfortable dosage. Follow your own judgment, within the guidelines suggested by the actual results discovered by these doctors.


You can buy ivermectin currently in a solution for horses and a solution for dogs (and other animals). You can find this on Amazon and at any feed store - today. But if, as Mina says, Vitamin D is going to be restricted to prescription only , then it's time to stock up on all health aids, because obviously this is a war on natural health.

The good news is that this stuff is dirt cheap, and it doesn't take much - until they get to it and lock down the supply chain.

In the US, in my part of the world, Tractor Supply has tubes of this stuff for $7. It was always in a locked glass case, but now there's a full page printed advisory on the glass from the FDA that humans should not try to self-medicate with these products - cute.

Get the horse and dog treatments. They're cheap, and last a couple of years. Use FLCCC for the conversions of active ingredient to body weight, and use this and Dr. Syed above also for suggested regimen.

For the most part there seem to be no other ingredients that matter in these products. Only the FDA-approved ivermectin is a drug. The rest is saline solution or flavors and paste. The product seems to be very safe, if you trust ivermectin, and in my house we do.


To buy human-dose pills of ivermectin, in 12 mg doses, India looks like your source - very cheap. I've seen comments in places from people who already bought from there. I'll buy from there this week. Canadian online pharmacies appear to be at the ripoff level already. India probably works, try as recommended by several sources. If you have money to lose, spend a few dollars - it's how we bought masks and such from China when there was nothing to be found in the US, and mostly it worked.

Or, you can get a prescription, and order it in the US. Try these doctors from FLCCC. Or this source to text a prescribing doc and get a scrip. Then go to an independent pharmacy and see if you can get it filled.


We are up against a commercial effort to crush the supply chain of all treatments for COVID-19. It's purely business. It's the same as sanctions on Iranian oil. The supply chain, and its informational literature, are being sanctioned by big pharma, which will sell its vaccines no matter what, and with the support of other forces that I don't even want to think about, that want us all marked, in a database, and on an IV drip.

So stock up now, because if Vitamin D, for crying out loud, may become a prescription substance, then the boot heel is coming down with no let up, and resistance is the only game in town.

ps..I haven't used any ivermectin yet, because my lifestyle has kept me safe from this virus. But with vaccinated libertines at loose now in society, it's time to up the protection. I offer simply what I've learned so far. Good fortune to us all.

Posted by: Grieved | Jun 3 2021 8:07 utc | 192

you posted the original McCullough link john, @ 187 what did you expect? Good luck i follow all your posts.

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jun 3 2021 8:08 utc | 193

Sorry, I did not say that "Vitamin D is going to be restricted to prescription only". This is very unlikely in Europe (it was on prescription in France but they dropped it some 5-10 years ago and it is expensive enough to be a "good product").

Posted by: Mina | Jun 3 2021 8:42 utc | 195

oldhippie @ 183

We are not near the end of the story

Grieved @ 186

In the parlance of the day, what in the actual fuck is going on

Well, it's not yet clear as day, but, for me at least, the plot has thickened.

I hold Cynthia McKinney in the highest esteem, I even tried to make her president in 2008, alas...

Do listen, about one hour.

Posted by: john | Jun 3 2021 9:06 utc | 196

Must watch video before it gets censored:

Long discussion with Dr Pierre Kory of the FLCCC ... endorsed by Joe Rogan (for better or worse) ...

COVID, Ivermectin, and the Crime of the Century: DarkHorse Podcast with Pierre Kory & Bret Weinstein

This may be massively important in terms of getting early treatment / Ivermectin legitimated worldwide ... with all that implies.

Indian Bar Association Serves Legal Notice Upon Dr. Soumya Swaminathan, the Chief Scientist, WHO

Indian Bar Association serves legal notice upon Dr. Soumya Swaminathan, the Chief Scientist at the WHO

The Virus and the Parasite

Posted by: Hemiola | Jun 3 2021 10:22 utc | 197

This is pretty much vanilla Capitalism since the colonial era:

Coffee, sugar, rum, opium, tea, tobacco, and so on. Many dirty wars have been fought over who got to grow them for profit and who did not. Nothng is too dirty, no disease too dangerous to spread around. And the US military has largely been involved in that too, you want to know why they are such assholes now, they always have been, just like now. Look at what occupation and repression has turned the Israeli military into. Look what it did to the USSR. And the Yurpeans before them. All the way back to Venice, and silk. Big wars. If you want no more wars, you want no more Capitalism. You want a much better class of people running things.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 3 2021 13:14 utc | 198

@ Grieved | Jun 3 2021 8:07 utc | 193 and oldhippie, others

Thanks for the Ivermectin and associated dosage info. I appreciate it and will share with others.

I am going to go beat on Kaiser Permanente again with the latest....we need to flip a health care organization of some size to get the ball rolling...

Thanks again everyone for the support

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 3 2021 13:50 utc | 199

Grieved @ 186

I am in a somewhat different situation. Evanston, Illinois. The vax rate for over 65s is 99+%. For 12+ it is 83% and that would be with vax only available for the kids a couple weeks. A month from now it will be 98% across the board, if not 99%. This is a place where people read NYT and listen to NPR. They are convinced that they do own the world, they do rule the world, that little people who reject vaccines should be ignored. Or disciplined. Or removed from view.

In personal stuff most family has not been seen in over a year and they will not see us until we are vaxxed. My wife is in Alcoholics Anonymous and has been going to meetings on Zoom. In person meetings are returning very slowly, The ones that do happen they sit outdoors, masked, with ten feet of distance. And the unvaxxed are not welcome. The outcasts can continue meeting on Zoom. If the Zoom meetings do continue it will be populated by those who are too terrified to see a live human at all. All of this goes totally against all AA traditions, no one cares, fear rules.

We know a few who have literally not set foot outside their apartments in over a year. All food delivered. Telemedicine
or they just get sick. Long run they will die, they will not breathe fresh air. There are even arrangements for such people to be vaxxed at home, while opening the door a crack.

I would like to believe this fraud will die of hubris. Can’t see that from here.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 3 2021 14:28 utc | 200

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